just stumbled across this, we may have to watch our tethering habits fella's
http://thecasualgeek.tumblr.com/post/8241532886/at-t-to-begin-throttling-unlimited-data-users
Sounds good to me, the top 5% heaviest users probably account for 30%-40% of data used across the entire mobile network in a month.
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Yeah, I can see it being an issue when people use a tethered phone as their primary internet service. I never go over the 2gb limit and I have unlimited.
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I use 2gig on average and I can't say I tether. Always on the market, netflix, Pandora etc. I also use QIK with my wife and kids. Wish they could make a Facetime app so I can call their Iphones though. Tango is aweful lately but QIK is pretty good.
Thats exactly wat tmobile does
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So basically the people who AT&T considers "abusing" their wireless network will be affected only. Not a big deal to me. Seems to me AT&T just needs to add more hotspots and problem solved.
"Typically what puts someone in the top 5 percent is streaming very large amounts of video and music daily over the wireless network, not Wi-Fi. "
Here's a better idea. Remove all the iPhone ****** users and problem solved.
IPhone users automatically equal tier plan death to carriers. It's truly game over whenever Sprint gets the iPhone...
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I'd rather have throttled unlimited data vs a 2gb cap with possible overage charges.
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I have yet to go over 2gig in a month anyway, I added tethering for my tablet which bumped it to 4gig at $45, still haven't went over 4. I don't mind paying even though I can tether free, since they are going to charge me $10 bucks for each gig over anyway. wish we would get 4G speeds where i live tho
The issue is how do they calculate the "heaviest users"?
Possibilities.
Assumption: throttling starts at 5gb
1. If i have unlimited plan and use about 6gb.
2. If i have a tethering plan and i use 6gb.
Scenario #1, i am ok with. 6gb using just a phone is a hell of a lot. i have hit 4gb once and that was when i left wifi off all month.
Scenario #2 would piss me off. Part of getting the tethering plan is because you will be using large amounts of data. In essence they are saying, we dont care. I bet ther only users that will be affected are the people who tether, and that is utte bull****.
Either way, we dont know when the throttling starts because AT&T doesnt release data usage stats.
Well this sucks for me. I do 10+GB a month. My record was in the mid 40s. I do a lot of tethering. And a lot of P2P with that tethering.
well I'll just have to upgrade my home internet
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Well this sucks for me. I do 10+GB a month. My record was in the mid 40s. I do a lot of tethering. And a lot of P2P with that tethering.
well I'll just have to upgrade my home internet
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that's what they are trying to stop -.-
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Here's a better idea. Remove all the iPhone ****** users and problem solved.
IPhone users automatically equal tier plan death to carriers. It's truly game over whenever Sprint gets the iPhone...
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I would like to know the logic to this. We have both and it's the Androids that seem to leach the most data. My wife was never over 200mb with her iPhone or Surround, but she's had 2 Inspires (warrantied once for this reason). They leached data straight out of the box. Her Inspire averages 900mb.
She is almost always home on wifi, and our house is an Edge-only area.
The iPhone doesn't do anything more to a network than the Androids. It only got the label of network killer because it was the first truly powerful smartphone they released. It was also so much of a hit, it pulled in dumb phone users who never thought of getting a smartphone.
The current line of Androids are just as fast, and faster, than the iPhone4. They stream HD video, and are uncorked from the box. I cant even download a podcast if it's over 20mb while on my i4.
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I would like to know the logic to this. We have both and it's the Androids that seem to leach the most data. My wife was never over 200mb with her iPhone or Surround, but she's had 2 Inspires (warrantied once for this reason). They leached data straight out of the box. Her Inspire averages 900mb.
She is almost always home on wifi, and our house is an Edge-only area.
The iPhone doesn't do anything more to a network than the Androids. It only got the label of network killer because it was the first truly powerful smartphone they released. It was also so much of a hit, it pulled in dumb phone users who never thought of getting a smartphone.
The current line of Androids are just as fast, and faster, than the iPhone4. They stream HD video, and are uncorked from the box. I cant even download a podcast if it's over 20mb while on my i4.
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Both AT&T and Verizon have complained about network overload issues after taking on the iPhone. They like the money that the phone brings in, but then cry poor that their networks are suffering.
Verizon was doing just fine with their Android lineup.
They thought they could handle the iPhone and show up AT&T with their network. Now they are just known as victim #2.
Sprint is now the new favorite on different message boards. Guarantee if they take on the iPhone, it will be tiered data death for them too.
Just one of my MANY reasons why I hate Apple...
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I don't like this at all. I tether on very rare occasions. But I have a 2 hour bus commute and half hour bike ride to and from work 5 days a week. During that time I am almost always streaming video or music, whether it be from hulu, Netflix, Pandora, Google Music etc...
My billing cycle ends on the 3rd. I just checked what my usage for July has been. In July I had a week off from work. Even with that week off and using wifi every minute I'm at home im still at 6.8gb. This worries me. I'm not abusing the data service, I'm just using it in my daily routine. I don't know if that amount of data could potentially throttle me but it would sure suck if I if it did.
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I still have my Unltd Data from way back 09, so this sort of blows for me, but AT&T has a business to run, I guess.
Nice corporate guru responses. The "top 5%" is gonna be anyone over 2gb, since that amount was put in place by the company as 95% of AT&T's customers using less than that. At least other carriers throttle to new unlimited plans, at&t doesn't even offer this anymore. All they are doing is rewarding dumb people who think a smartphone makes them smarter while curbing technological advances in streaming music and video.
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I wonder if I'll be affected by this.. I don't tether at all and sometimes i hit 20gb. I'm on netflix often, play my pocket legends, vendetta online and download some movies/anime. I have unlimited data.
Im probably going to leave at&t for sprint sometime next year. I never go over 2gb a month and I couldn't imagine how slow my connection would be if they started throttling my data usage. I live in Destin FL and I have seen no improvements going from an aria to an atrix network speed wise. The other day I was at work and a guy there constantly ridicules me for paying nearly $200 a month when he pays 45 on boost.. my argument was the network speed... so we downloaded some large images. Streamed some videos from youtube and on every occasion his samsung galaxy prevail would download nearly twice as fast on boosts 3g vs my atrix's "4g" ... and he has unlimited everything. Yet still my atrix speedtests are better than our work phones which are on verizon's 3g.
I think, as at&t customers especially ones that are loyal to them pay entirely too much money for sub par network performance .. the only thing they have going for them is being able to browse and use voice on the network..
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Im sure most peeps know this but tmobile does in if fact throttle your 3g service if you go over 10mb here is the text I got today.
(Free T-Mobile msg: Your usage has reached the data threshold for your rate plan this month. Your speed has been reduced for the rest of this billing cycle.)
Anyway just FYI in case people didnt know.i called and argued about paying 30 bucks a month to be throttled down.they said when u go over you switch from 3g to edge.thanks ping33tx
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Take it you ment 10gigs.
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Im sure most peeps know this but tmobile does if fact throttle your 3g service if you go over 10mb here is the text I got today.
(Free T-Mobile msg: Your usage has reached the data threshold for your rate plan this month. Your speed has been reduced for the rest of this billing cycle.)
Anyway just FYI in case people didnt know.i called and argued about paying 30 bucks a month to be throttled down.they said when u go over you switch from 3g to edge.thanks ping33tx
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it's 10gb not 10mb. and that's a reasonable limit before throttling. there are other threads on this as well.
Does this count for downloading 10mb apps and stuff? I have not been throttled down and thought this was only a myth...10gb is a lot to go through a month for me anyway though
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Nope the chat rep said 10mb.now that person might have made a typo im just saying what was typed
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What are you doing on your phone that you need 10GB of data?
This is not new news. It's been like this for months.
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Nope the chat rep said 10mb.now that person might have made a typo im just saying what was typed
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lol. then everyone on this forum would be throttled on their first day of their billing cycle every month....
it's 10gb. been that way for a long time.
Well being a shift worker at a refinery n working nite,netflix comes in handy to make 12hrs go by been doing it for months n months n never got this text until today
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Well being a shift worker at a refinery n working nite,netflix comes in handy to make 12hrs go by been doing it for months n months n never got this text until today
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There you go!
As I am new to android/smartphones, can anyone tell me if there is any easy way to check your current data usage to see where you stand?
Yeah that might be,but the way I see it if your paying 30 bucks a month for unlimited then it should be just that.Hell my dsl is faster n cheaper lol and use ten times what I use on the mobile..Oh well just passing along,some peeps might not know.just trying to help
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Yeah that might be,but the way I see it if your paying 30 bucks a month for unlimited then it should be just that.Hell my dsl is faster n cheaper lol and use ten times what I use on the mobile..Oh well just passing along,some peeps might not know.just trying to help
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Hell your DSL is not the same as wireless. 10GB on a cellular network is a lot.
Yep ur correct on that.despite that moral of the story is if ur paying for a product you should be able to get that product.Right?
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Yep ur correct on that.despite that moral of the story is if ur paying for a product you should be able to get that product.Right?
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this has been discussed thoroughly in other threads....
but, basically, you are still receiving the product (unlimited web access, which is the same cost even if there isn't 3g in your area), just at a slower speed. a lot of cable and dsl companies do the same thing and their networks aren't as impacted by heavy bandwidth usage.
The dumb part is 10gig's isn't much anymore, some apps/games download 80-100 megs worth of stuff.
Not only that but last I checked the Samsung Vibrant comes with mobile TV app does it not?
So whats the point of having apps that are going to eat up data, are only good when they have 3g and we only have 10gigs or use or that?
It makes me sick every time I see ATT's dumb as use our internet commercial and don't state it's a 250 meg and 2.5 gig plans.
Tmobile isn't very far from being in the same boat because they give you a phone with mobitv and advertise the screen and playing movies and then expect you to not use it (and the data cell line to it) to stream videos/movies/shows?
Same thing for Win7, etc..
ALL these phones now are capable of pulling 100's of gigs of data in a month, yet they want us to accept a neutered phone with only 10 gigs of worthy access at descent speeds.
And no edge isn't worthy, might as well not have a data connection for anything other than checking email or getting tweets because it's way to slow.
So either go back to selling just dumb phones, or they need to expect people to be using more data.
I just don't see the point in living in this internet data based world and having all these damn cell phone companies refuse to allow us to enjoy it by not offering a true unlimited internet 3g connection to our phones.
And it's not the data pipe, or the usage thats a bull**** argument because the following companies offer unlimited internet through cell towers for laptops/home computers verizon/virgin mobile/sprint and sprint offers unlimited 3g to their 4g phones.
So no it's not about them "coping" with us the evil eaters of all the bandwith. If that was the case nobody, not one company could offer true unlimited 3g/4g but it is out there just not for the vast majority of the companies/options and you have zero options if you are GSM only like me which sucks.
I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that
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I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that
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Yes and I could offer to chop off only a pinky instead of your whole hand so thats better as well right?
Don't think so, if the cell companies want to make use of the airwaves that are limited, they should be forced to offer a unlimited internet package on all their services.
Same for home phone companies, if they want to offer phone service they need to offer dsl to all their customers, and have a unlimited package.
It's just tiring to see commercial after commercial showing this and that on the internet and you have to go to virgin mobile to be able to get unlimited 3g for a home connection. And they only charge me 10 bucks more than the cost for the internet on my phone.
So no I don't think it's to unreasonable to ask for unlimited 3g on my vibrant when you consider I pay about 80 bucks a month, and I use about less than 1 hour of talk time, only a few hundred text so the only real thing they are providing me in quantity for 80 bucks is internet and they can't even do that "right".
Honestly it hardly effects me because I don't have 3g where I live, but I do travel to 3g areas so I don't want to have that slow down.
I got a message telling me my connection was throttled as well. Problem is I haven't been using my phone. I checked my usage on the t-mobile website and it claimed my phone used a gigabyte while I was sleeping. At various points my phone seems to do a few hundred megabytes at random. This has been happening the last few days, which corresponds to the time that the gmail application stopped syncing on my phone. Is this a common problem?
Virgin Mobile/Sprint is giving unlimited 3G away for a few reasons
- Subscriber additions
- Underused EV-DO network (soon to be overloaded with unlimited usage+Evo/Epic; it's already happening) There isn't enough bandwidth to go around. Two people streaming YouTube constantly is enough to bring your overall data through put below 1Mbps where it was probably 2Mbps before.
- Subscriber additions, Sprint is hurting for them.
Very well spoken thats been my whole point to start with
I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that
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Yes and I could offer to chop off only a pinky instead of your whole hand so thats better as well right?
Don't think so, if the cell companies want to make use of the airwaves that are limited, they should be forced to offer a unlimited internet package on all their services.
Same for home phone companies, if they want to offer phone service they need to offer dsl to all their customers, and have a unlimited package.
It's just tiring to see commercial after commercial showing this and that on the internet and you have to go to virgin mobile to be able to get unlimited 3g for a home connection. And they only charge me 10 bucks more than the cost for the internet on my phone.
So no I don't think it's to unreasonable to ask for unlimited 3g on my vibrant when you consider I pay about 80 bucks a month, and I use about less than 1 hour of talk time, only a few hundred text so the only real thing they are providing me in quantity for 80 bucks is internet and they can't even do that "right".
Honestly it hardly effects me because I don't have 3g where I live, but I do travel to 3g areas so I don't want to have that slow down.
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Well went over the 5gb cap by just using the web and streaming Pandora and Slacker! So they slowed me down to Edge speed and dam its so slow that it wont stream music or even load Youtube Videos. Only pulling in 0.06k speed using the Speednet test. Why so dam slow?
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That sucks, even when my phone used edge it obviously wasn't as fast as 3g but i still could surf the web and use pandora with no problem just a few seconds longer of a wait.
Yea so slow and its pissing me off. Wont load crap. Plus my rooted vibrant has been hella laggy too.
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Not to be a douche, but to reach 5GBs with just streaming music, you would have to stream close to 100 hours. Did you really use that much?
I haven't gone over the 5GB cap since they instituted it, but I cut it close this past month. I tether very lightly, but I do download roms direct to my phone because a lot of the hosting sites are blocked at work. I also spend about 2 hours on the train round trip and usually stream music, surf the web, etc. I wish they'd just offer a higher cap plan with no throttling. I'd rather pay a few bucks more with the peace of mind that I won't be throttled to 56k modem speeds.
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Well went over the 5gb cap by just using the web and streaming Pandora and Slacker! So they slowed me down to Edge speed and dam its so slow that it wont stream music or even load Youtube Videos.
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I feel selfish and dirty saying this but in the back of my mind I personally love T-mobile doing this!
The people that tether/stream like crazy (slowing everyone else down) and hide behind contract terms of "unlimited" should be held accountable. A friend of mine showed me how he had use 93gb's last month and I was like "WTF are you doing man?! your slowing me down as well!!!"
Go T-mobile slowdowns Go!
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I haven't gone over the 5GB cap since they instituted it, but I cut it close this past month. I tether very lightly, but I do download roms direct to my phone because a lot of the hosting sites are blocked at work. I also spend about 2 hours on the train round trip and usually stream music, surf the web, etc. I wish they'd just offer a higher cap plan with no throttling. I'd rather pay a few bucks more with the peace of mind that I won't be throttled to 56k modem speeds.
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You should try using ultrasurf at your workplace.
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You should try using ultrasurf at your workplace.
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Websense blocks ultrasurf as well. I really don't want to use a proxy, as there has been a firing over using proxies and VPNs recently.
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There is a high low option in Pandora. Same goes for YouTube, it will default to low when not on wifi. But yea to be going past 5GB, you got to be doing some crazy things. We are all used to counting minutes(at least those who dont spring for the unlimited plan), so we can do the same with data, but yes it would be nice to be able to pay for the premium. Get the app 3G watchdog, it will track 3g data usage. It allows you to set the start off point, so just check your account at tmo, and put in the current usage and it will continue from there instead of zero.
I've been surviving on Edge since the old days. Cracks me up watching others complain about Edge when they leave the battery sucking 3G on all day. Maybe thats why I have tons of battery life since I idle on Edge all day and fire up 3G and WiFi when I really need it.
Why stream music constantly when you can load up tons of music in the internal memory or SD card?
For the record Edge is not 56k modem speed.
Edge normally runs 70-135kbps with bursts to 200kbps.
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maybe i'm retarded but where the hell do you find data usage? i've NEVER been able to find it
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finally found it, had to drill down into my specific line.
When you go over 5 gigs, they cripple your down speed to a fraction of that of edge. What you are experiencing makes edge feel like 10G.
Yea I really used 5gb just using the web and streaming videos and music! downloaded 2 movies from the mediahub! Yea sucks balls!
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Slow down with, the porn man.
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Yea stupid to drop people below Edge speed. Dont mind Edge but this is way to slow!
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No porn man!
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Yea tried the low setting on Youtube but it takes like 10mins to load a video. And Pandora Radio cuts out about every 40 secs or so.Dam ;(
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on a serious note, do what I did. I got a 16gb sd card for music and just download mixtapes with a torrent app over night with wifi. I use a app called swarm and just load up a couple of torrents while your sleep. Use your data for youtube.
If your interested in hiphop and r and b try these.
mixtapetorrent.com or for mediafire mixtape downloads try hiphopthugz.com or datpiff.com
As far as I know these are legit websites for free mixtapes. Sorry in advance if these are against the rules.
Already got like 5gigs of music. But still like using Pandora Radio! Thanks
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Personally, for me, when my phone is running under Edge, it is the equivalent of having NO INTERNET. A majority of the time Edge is so slow, that web pages fail to load. I could leave my phone on, and a site would take several mins to barely load.
In my opinion this is a non-functional data plan at that point. I understand unlimited internet technically isn't unlimited 3G, however, I do believe that someone can make a strong case in court, that when speeds are throttled down to Edge, the internet functionality is rendered useless, and thus could be classified as being "LIMITED" internet.
It's like getting an unlimited voice plan, and talking all day long. Then the phone company says "oh well you talk too much, so I'm going to cut down on your voice transmission so you can only hear bits and pieces of your conversation." Essentially the phone call would be useless right?
I think if someone is smart, this is the angle they will play in court. Fine T-mobile, if you want to advertise as "unlimited" then at least the phone should still be able to functionally access websites when you decide to throttle abusers.
Personally I've never hit the 5 or 10gb cap, but I know how it sucks to run Edge. Edge=NO DATA
I finally reached 5GB on my T-mobile data plan, I often do not even go over 3 gb. I watched about two dozens of tv episodes due to the lack of assignments The cap lowers the speed to about 7 kilobytes per second and is fast enough for web chating, browsing and email syncyng. What are your thoughts about this?
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The cap really does suck. They shouldn't name the plan unlimited because I know of many people who didn't know about the cap and found out the hard way. I'm glad Sprint is true unlimited.
What!!! So 'unlimited' is actually 5gb??
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What!!! So 'unlimited' is actually 5gb??
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Yes. It has been since Nov. 2011. Before that it was 10GB per month. Once you go over you are sent a text and throttled to between 7kbps to 56kbps. T-mobile continues to argue that it's unlimited because you can still access the web. (Although, at those speeds it's pretty much unusable.
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"Verizon Wireless will join AT&T in adopting data caps soon, probably in mid-summer, Verizon CFO Fran Shammo said at an investor's conference Tuesday.
The precise timing for the move to a tiered-pricing scheme has not been announced, however. AT&T put an end to unlimited data plans for new customers last year.
Verizon has been offering the iPhone 4 since Feb. 10 with a $30 unlimited plan, which applies to other smartphones it sells that run on the Verizon CDMA/EV-DO network.
Shammo said some of the details of the data caps and tiered pricing will come when Verizon launches the HTCThunderbolt on LTE soon. Thunderbolt will have a 4.3-in. screen and run Android, Verizon said in January."
here is the link to the story http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9212378/Verizon_data_caps_coming_probably
I don't agree with the cap itself; I don't like how they call it unlimited but cap it at 5 gigs, but I can understand why they do this. Think about it; if an exponential number of people just jump on the network or switch over to the unlimited plan and just use gigs of data, where can they draw the line and tell you to stop?
It isn't like they "want" to cap it so much, but if they don't people are inevitably going to use Tmobile as their main internet connection, for the most part (browsing, downloading, everything except for pirating movies) IMO.
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I finally reached 5GB on my T-mobile data plan, I often do not even go over 3 gb. I watched about two dozens of tv episodes due to the lack of assignments The cap lowers the speed to about 7 kilobytes per second and is fast enough for web chating, browsing and email syncyng. What are your thoughts about this?
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I was kinda irritated the first time I heard about this. At first, there was no problem, at 10 gigs. Unlimited or not, 10 gigs a month was a fair deal. The data cap dropped to 5 around the same time CM7 nightlies came out, and absolutely pissed me off. I had no actual notification of the change, so I ended up reaching the data cap at the BEGINNING of the month. Absolute malarkey I say. My data, being that I live on an island in the pacific, is already slow by ANY standards. Slower data speeds and a lowered data cap. It was not a good day to be a tmobile owner.
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yes
yes. yes I am.
I got capped the 1st month I got my phone. I knew about the cap but I didn't think it was thatttt badddd. I now use the 3g watchdog app to remind and I use wifi whenever I can.
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Limited "unlimited"
I ran into my 30 bucks worth last month, around the 17th. It want a great day, in fact I wasn't even using it at the time. I am running android on my hd2 and found the netflix app an awesome addition. Instead of listening to the radio, I steamed every episode of ancient aliens for about a week. Let me tell you, when you hit the wall, its over, you are lucky if your emails come through. Worse yet, there is nothing they can do, they say, not even the ceo has a button to start your data over again. What I did in the end was upgrade my plan, they credited me for the 10g plan $30, them I called back and switched my plan back to the original. I got my data restarted in the end, but a day of heartache when you use your phone for work as well.
I think they should have to call it what it is, limited, tiered, what have you, even if you never went over 10g it is still limited!
The cap doesn't bother me, I just use wifi religiously.
Now they have changed it. 10 gb option is available
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I used to use wifi all the time & rarely used more than 500MB per month (300MB was about normal). Since they started capping, I just turned off the wifi until I hit 4GB and use TMO data instead. Once I hit 4GB, I go back to wifi whenever I can to make sure I don't hit their limit.
If they're going to cap my unlimited plan, I'll use it as much as possible without causing an inconvenience for myself. Way to go TMO, you've now caused me to use around 10 times more data than I did previously!
I agree with this post, and I user wifi whenever its available...however I still check my data usage constantly.
Theres a work around now that I found...some files you load into your phone, but haven't tried it.
My house has more wifi coverage than more corporate offices lol / I make wimax look like a bleep on the radar - and theres lots of programs on the market for mapping of open wifi,.the names just escape me.
Look at it this way...tmo will be taken over by the evil att monster and I'm not happy about that, I hate att, however we will then get free access to their wifi all over...so maybe that'll ease your minds...
My personal thoughts however are they should be sued for misrepresenting their product but they all do it with the exception of sprint and criket...which runs on sprint lol _ unlimited means unlimited, not unlimited broadband for X amount of data then kick you down to dial up/old school isdn speeds.
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Now they have changed it. 10 gb option is available
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Is there a new plan or did they simply change it for the unlimited plans?
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Here in germany capped data plans are quite usual (for mobile internet).
My plan contains only 500 MB for 20 Euro (?close to 25USD?). But using WiFi at home, the university and my friends places doesn't cause any problems for me.
During the last month I consumed about 200 MB while travelling/on the go and about 6 GB over WiFi. With a quite capable SGS2 ;-)
But I don't watch many movies on my phone, and if I do, I put them on the internal storage (after... uhm... ripping them from DVD )
Though I can understand the companies limiting the plans: If most users use mobile internet even if WiFi is available it causes a lot of traffic over a very expensive infrastructure, so they try to limit the use of their wireless links.
And just causing as much traffic as possible "because you paid for it" doesn't make it any better.
The general idea behind such an "unlimited" plan is fair use, and because some people tend to overstress that fair use they have to put the limit in place.
Obviously, if your phone is your only internet access than my argument doesn't hold, but than you have some money to spare for a bigger plan
michaelstigers said:
Is there a new plan or did they simply change it for the unlimited plans?
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new plan, like "premium"
After watching this video I'm starting to wonder if sprint is intentionally slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I've been less than a mile from a tower and have my connection suck. In a open air environment to.
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I can't watch that video rgt now cuz I'm on VZW 1x lolol
What is it?
And sprint has been slow on 3g since the evo came out
Before that, sprint was worthy of its name
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A_Flying_Fox said:
I can't watch that video rgt now cuz I'm on VZW 1x lolol
What is it?
And sprint has been slow on 3g since the evo came out
Before that, sprint was worthy of its name
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"Sprint - to run at full speed"
How ironic lol
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If verizon wasn't so damn expensive I would go there. I think sprint good prices and plan is the reason they won't up the speed of there network. Its not like sprint don't have the technology to do so.
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My speeds depend on which tower I'm connected to. The one on the main road has good signal but crappy speeds, and the tower at work is 1-2 bars but steady 2 mbps. I also work in the boonies and there are probably only 5 people connected to it.
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blackdragon79 said:
After watching this video I'm starting to wonder if sprint is intentionally slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You could argue that all carriers are slow. It depends on the tower, prl, and etc, as well as how much you tweak your phone's radio-dependent files, but ruling out those factors, it truly does matter on your data plan. Most, if not all carriers cap your speeds when you're on unlimited plans, those who are on data limits are the ones who truly get no cap, although it doesn't matter because they have a limit, so its as if they're capped anyway.
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Shinydude100 said:
You could argue that all carriers are slow. It depends on the tower, prl, and etc, as well as how much you tweak your phone's radio-dependent files, but ruling out those factors, it truly does matter on your data plan. Most, if not all carriers cap your speeds when you're on unlimited plans, those who are on data limits are the ones who truly get no cap, although it doesn't matter because they have a limit, so its as if they're capped anyway.
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Sprint claims they don't cap under any circumstances. I think the problem is that Sprint simply doesn't know how to maintain their network well enough to keep up with the demand.
I've whined about this endlessly but I'll give a little example of what I'm talking about. My wife and I drove back to our apartment in the city from upstate NY this morning. We had Spotify going the entire time and at no point did we have any skips or gaps in songs during playback. As soon as we got in our neighborhood, however, the song we were listening to cut began getting choppy before eventually cutting out completely. In the time it took us to find a parking spot - about 5 or so minutes - the song cut out for about 4:50 before coming back with a choppy signal. Sprint has told me a few dozen times that there's a problem with a tower in this neighborhood that somehow never gets fixed. Let's face it, if Sprint can't get their network working reliably in NYC, what does that say about their competence?
The problem is Sprint hasn't invested in their network or backhaul since they came out with data plans back in 2003-2004.
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The problem is Sprint hasn't invested in their network or backhaul since they came out with data plans back in 2003-2004.
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This exactly.
Now they are, unfortunately for us it's going to take a little to see the results.
The mere insinuation that Sprint would be slow [in some areas as slow at 50k] on purpose is...well... I'll be nice and say it isn't smart.
I think sprint is playing smart by saying unlimited data for ad but actually they can only serve very slow speeds everybody.
this in turn make me use less data because I rely on my wifi. A win win situation for the sprint but not for customers.
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mtwow789 said:
I think sprint is playing smart by saying unlimited data for ad but actually they can only serve very slow speeds everybody.
this in turn make me use less data because I rely on my wifi. A win win situation for the sprint but not for customers.
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not sure if this is there intention per se but there's certainly some truth to it. I've got friends who have AT&T iPhones and they routinely go over 5 gigs of data in a month with streaming and whatnot. I've never cracked 600 megs with my Epic because the data speeds are too slow - why would I try to download several gigabytes of data when my downstream tops out a .30 Mbps? when I can get on 4G it's great but it usually knocks me off intermittently until I just give up and switch back to 3G.
I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
mtwow789 said:
I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
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I saw ~20 people in the Sprint store this weekend just for the Iphone.
So i guess it not just my crapy little town
If they tried to give full speed to everyone, we would all be taxing the bandwidth, creating a data traffic jam - no data for anyone. (this isn't necessarily an accurate description, I can't claim to know all - but the concept is sound)
The bandwidth is inherently shared, so they have to make sure that everyone gets enough to consider it more than useless.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited bandwidth... Anyone remember when cable internet first came out? It was fast as hell, until prices came down and a few of my neighbors got on board
mtwow789 said:
I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
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Good idea - sue them for all they're worth. Then they go bankrupt, and we're all left with Verizon, AT&T or T mobile (or crappy prepaid, which typically piggy backs on the major carrier's networks...)
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sigh.. is there no other alternatives then Sprint?
I know Sprint is cheap, but this slowness is too much.
What's the point of unlimited data when I just rely on my wifi.
In this rate, I can take 200mb option from ATT. Because I cant use that much in sprint.
mtwow789 said:
sigh.. is there no other alternatives then Sprint?
I know Sprint is cheap, but this slowness is too much.
What's the point of unlimited data when I just rely on my wifi.
In this rate, I can take 200mb option from ATT. Because I cant use that much in sprint.
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Get a T-Mobile vibrant then unlock it and put in an att sim card. Tell att you want the $15 unlimited data plan for quick messaging phones and give them your imei. If they ask what your phone is tell them it's just an old samsung tmobile phone and mention nothing about android or the real name of the phone, Enjoy.
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styles420 said:
If they tried to give full speed to everyone, we would all be taxing the bandwidth, creating a data traffic jam - no data for anyone. (this isn't necessarily an accurate description, I can't claim to know all - but the concept is sound)
The bandwidth is inherently shared, so they have to make sure that everyone gets enough to consider it more than useless.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited bandwidth... Anyone remember when cable internet first came out? It was fast as hell, until prices came down and a few of my neighbors got on board
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I'm sure everything you are saying is true. The problem is that Sprint claims they don't limit bandwidth or throttle at all. And it's the line of bulls--t from Sprint that angers me more than their pathetically slow service. That they can't just come forward and speak the truth rather than trying to lure customers in with false promises is a deceptive business practice.
It should be class action for all not just iPhone ppl on sprint.
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So I've had my SGS III on tmobile about two weeks (Bought 6/28) And I've already hit my data cap at 5.2gb with 2gb from Play Music alone.
I just got off the phone with retentions and they told me 2 things:
1. ETF is $200 (so I could theoretically sell the phone here or on ebay for $300-600, or I still have 3 days to return the phone to walmart.)
2. There's nothing they can do for me, aside from charge me full price for the $65/mo 10gb "unlimited" data. I could not get the $10 off for 24 months either. I pay $108/mo after fees for unltd. everything. (Ha ha!)
So, Sprint users, how is your data? I'm seriously considering dumping tmobile this week for sprint, I can't do this throttling BS for two years.
And Tmo users, have *you* hit your cap yet? how quickly?
I've only hit my cap once with my 5 gig data plan since I switched over to T-Mobile from Sprint last year. I had Sprint for 4 years and boy does their data speeds suck. Yeah their data speed may be unlimited but you'll be stuck with dial up connections compared to to T-Mobiles hspa
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Gopena said:
So I've had my SGS III on tmobile about two weeks (Bought 6/28) And I've already hit my data cap at 5.2gb with 2gb from Play Music alone.
I just got off the phone with retentions and they told me 2 things:
1. ETF is $200 (so I could theoretically sell the phone here or on ebay for $300-600, or I still have 3 days to return the phone to walmart.)
2. There's nothing they can do for me, aside from charge me full price for the $65/mo 10gb "unlimited" data. I could not get the $10 off for 24 months either. I pay $108/mo after fees for unltd. everything. (Ha ha!)
So, Sprint users, how is your data? I'm seriously considering dumping tmobile this week for sprint, I can't do this throttling BS for two years.
And Tmo users, have *you* hit your cap yet? how quickly?
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I haven't hit my cap yet but I don't stream much, I have used 2 gb in almost 2 weeks that's for sure, also new YouTube app held since it downloads the videos in wifi, sprint if is good where you live is great but if is not you will definitely prefer to pay more for tmobile, I used to have sprint but loading YouTube videos sucks now, compare to two years ago, if you are in one of the cities that is getting sprint soon I would definitely recommend it to
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So please explain to us all how it's T-Mobiles fault? You obviously know what your usage habits are. You should know if 5GB a month won't be enough for you. I download apps, play online games, watch YouTube, surf the net, etc.. 2GB a month works well for me. So obviously if you use that much data it's on you and not on them. Upgrade to the highest plan and quit complaining.
No one's fault but your own, sorry.
Chicago281 said:
So please explain to us all how it's T-Mobiles fault? You obviously know what your usage habits are. You should know if 5GB a month won't be enough for you. I download apps, play online games, watch YouTube, surf the net, etc.. 2GB a month works well for me. So obviously if you use that much data it's on you and not on them. Upgrade to the highest plan and quit complaining.
No one's fault but your own, sorry.
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+1 This
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Seriously, it's like you think you're entitled to unlimited. You chose T-Mobile over anyone else, and chose their 5GB plan. Why are you so surprised that you'd have to pay more for more unthrottled data?
Cool story bro!
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How can you even use 2 gigs from Play Music in two weeks?!? Are you using it 24/7?
Hahaha!!!!!!!! Go to verizon lol they will sell you all the high speed you need. I just switched from Verizon to tmobile. Verizon charges $60/ month for 1gb and tmobile charges $25/month for 5gb.
I couldn't be happier. If you need to stream that much use fm radio or wifi or.. Pay more money.
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OP,
Why aren't you using wifi for large items?
I averaged 2GB data & 5GB wifi /mo on TMO....and that 2GB was surfing whenever I wanted and streaming pandora/google music for hours everyday..
Okay, then switch to sprint.. there's nothing we can do here..
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I'd say switch to sprint and hop on their unlimited. Lots of people complain about slow speeds (which compared to other carriers they are) but I 've never had a problem streaming Netflix and other videos while tethering and hopefully their quick with the lte rollout. I've been with sprint 11yrs and never had a problem
You may want to consider a bigger microsd card if you are streaming so much data. As far as speeds go, it all depends on market. Ask around at work and see if anyone has sprint, if they do, see if they will do a speed test for you. I know for a fact that in my area, sprint has the worst 3g out of any of the big 4. When i had them i averaged less than 100kb down. I've also seen people hit 1.5 mbps in other areas on a regular basis. YMMV.
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You may want to consider a bigger microsd card if you are streaming so much data. As far as speeds go, it all depends on market. Ask around at work and see if anyone has sprint, if they do, see if they will do a speed test for you. I know for a fact that in my area, sprint has the worst 3g out of any of the big 4. When i had them i averaged less than 100kb down. I've also seen people hit 1.5 mbps in other areas on a regular basis. YMMV.
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Yeah, after I realized that I'd lose the "4G" with the one on t-mobile waiting for sprint to roll out LTE in orlando, I think the best way to do this is trim down my music library and keep it on an SD, and just use play music to push new songs
I'm just frustrated that t-mobile calls it unlimited at all. It's a lie in itself because the service is limited in one way or another, it's not fair to still call it unlimited just because it's not limited in the way it usually is. :laugh:
sprint................suckkkksssssss! Had the service for 4 days and it was painful with roaming, pathetic speeds. Tmobile is insane in my area with their 3g+ I get consistent 15mbs down and 3mbs up. learn to find wifi and use it. wifi is our friend.
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I'm just frustrated that t-mobile calls it unlimited at all. It's a lie in itself because the service is limited in one way or another, it's not fair to still call it unlimited just because it's not limited in the way it usually is. :laugh:
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But they don't call it unlimited 4G access anywhere I've seen. They call it, quite clearly, unlimited data with xGB of high speed data. And they deliver exactly on that promise.
Chicago281 said:
So please explain to us all how it's T-Mobiles fault? You obviously know what your usage habits are. You should know if 5GB a month won't be enough for you. I download apps, play online games, watch YouTube, surf the net, etc.. 2GB a month works well for me. So obviously if you use that much data it's on you and not on them. Upgrade to the highest plan and quit complaining.
No one's fault but your own, sorry.
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++++1 On this. I consider myself an average to moderate user when it comes to data. I use the WIFI only at my house, and I have a 5 GB data plan. I have yet to pass 2GB of usage since switching from Sprint 3 months ago. On another note, I average 17MB down and 3MB up in my area, which is faster than my own internet service provider, and on Sprint I would average around 700KB down and 300KB up. Good luck switching to Sprint.
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Yeah, after I realized that I'd lose the "4G" with the one on t-mobile waiting for sprint to roll out LTE in orlando, I think the best way to do this is trim down my music library and keep it on an SD, and just use play music to push new songs
I'm just frustrated that t-mobile calls it unlimited at all. It's a lie in itself because the service is limited in one way or another, it's not fair to still call it unlimited just because it's not limited in the way it usually is. :laugh:
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Your frustrated...uh huh..sorry but I'm frustrated reading this post...They call it unlimited 2 gb, 5 gb.. there's a reason for the number after the unlimited, also read the fine print it says they throttle your speeds... In the future you should really try to read the fine print and ask questions like why is the unlimited 2gb cheaper then the unlimited 5 gb... Make sure YOU don't make the same mistake again in when you actually buy something important with financing like a car or house...
Op I say check in your area and see if sprint has good coverage and good network speed in your area before making any moves. I live in Miami and still have my e4gt since I rely on wimax and it isn't a big upgrade difference with the s3, here's some speed test I took a few days ago using wimax
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I rather get an average of 9-11mbps and highs 13-14mbps on a good day and have unlimited then to have 20-60mbps and have a data cap but that's just me lol, the speeds I get now is good enough to browse, play hd YouTube videos with no problem, and tether with good speeds too.
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