So I've had my SGS III on tmobile about two weeks (Bought 6/28) And I've already hit my data cap at 5.2gb with 2gb from Play Music alone.
I just got off the phone with retentions and they told me 2 things:
1. ETF is $200 (so I could theoretically sell the phone here or on ebay for $300-600, or I still have 3 days to return the phone to walmart.)
2. There's nothing they can do for me, aside from charge me full price for the $65/mo 10gb "unlimited" data. I could not get the $10 off for 24 months either. I pay $108/mo after fees for unltd. everything. (Ha ha!)
So, Sprint users, how is your data? I'm seriously considering dumping tmobile this week for sprint, I can't do this throttling BS for two years.
And Tmo users, have *you* hit your cap yet? how quickly?
I've only hit my cap once with my 5 gig data plan since I switched over to T-Mobile from Sprint last year. I had Sprint for 4 years and boy does their data speeds suck. Yeah their data speed may be unlimited but you'll be stuck with dial up connections compared to to T-Mobiles hspa
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So I've had my SGS III on tmobile about two weeks (Bought 6/28) And I've already hit my data cap at 5.2gb with 2gb from Play Music alone.
I just got off the phone with retentions and they told me 2 things:
1. ETF is $200 (so I could theoretically sell the phone here or on ebay for $300-600, or I still have 3 days to return the phone to walmart.)
2. There's nothing they can do for me, aside from charge me full price for the $65/mo 10gb "unlimited" data. I could not get the $10 off for 24 months either. I pay $108/mo after fees for unltd. everything. (Ha ha!)
So, Sprint users, how is your data? I'm seriously considering dumping tmobile this week for sprint, I can't do this throttling BS for two years.
And Tmo users, have *you* hit your cap yet? how quickly?
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I haven't hit my cap yet but I don't stream much, I have used 2 gb in almost 2 weeks that's for sure, also new YouTube app held since it downloads the videos in wifi, sprint if is good where you live is great but if is not you will definitely prefer to pay more for tmobile, I used to have sprint but loading YouTube videos sucks now, compare to two years ago, if you are in one of the cities that is getting sprint soon I would definitely recommend it to
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So please explain to us all how it's T-Mobiles fault? You obviously know what your usage habits are. You should know if 5GB a month won't be enough for you. I download apps, play online games, watch YouTube, surf the net, etc.. 2GB a month works well for me. So obviously if you use that much data it's on you and not on them. Upgrade to the highest plan and quit complaining.
No one's fault but your own, sorry.
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So please explain to us all how it's T-Mobiles fault? You obviously know what your usage habits are. You should know if 5GB a month won't be enough for you. I download apps, play online games, watch YouTube, surf the net, etc.. 2GB a month works well for me. So obviously if you use that much data it's on you and not on them. Upgrade to the highest plan and quit complaining.
No one's fault but your own, sorry.
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Seriously, it's like you think you're entitled to unlimited. You chose T-Mobile over anyone else, and chose their 5GB plan. Why are you so surprised that you'd have to pay more for more unthrottled data?
Cool story bro!
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How can you even use 2 gigs from Play Music in two weeks?!? Are you using it 24/7?
Hahaha!!!!!!!! Go to verizon lol they will sell you all the high speed you need. I just switched from Verizon to tmobile. Verizon charges $60/ month for 1gb and tmobile charges $25/month for 5gb.
I couldn't be happier. If you need to stream that much use fm radio or wifi or.. Pay more money.
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Why aren't you using wifi for large items?
I averaged 2GB data & 5GB wifi /mo on TMO....and that 2GB was surfing whenever I wanted and streaming pandora/google music for hours everyday..
Okay, then switch to sprint.. there's nothing we can do here..
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I'd say switch to sprint and hop on their unlimited. Lots of people complain about slow speeds (which compared to other carriers they are) but I 've never had a problem streaming Netflix and other videos while tethering and hopefully their quick with the lte rollout. I've been with sprint 11yrs and never had a problem
You may want to consider a bigger microsd card if you are streaming so much data. As far as speeds go, it all depends on market. Ask around at work and see if anyone has sprint, if they do, see if they will do a speed test for you. I know for a fact that in my area, sprint has the worst 3g out of any of the big 4. When i had them i averaged less than 100kb down. I've also seen people hit 1.5 mbps in other areas on a regular basis. YMMV.
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You may want to consider a bigger microsd card if you are streaming so much data. As far as speeds go, it all depends on market. Ask around at work and see if anyone has sprint, if they do, see if they will do a speed test for you. I know for a fact that in my area, sprint has the worst 3g out of any of the big 4. When i had them i averaged less than 100kb down. I've also seen people hit 1.5 mbps in other areas on a regular basis. YMMV.
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Yeah, after I realized that I'd lose the "4G" with the one on t-mobile waiting for sprint to roll out LTE in orlando, I think the best way to do this is trim down my music library and keep it on an SD, and just use play music to push new songs
I'm just frustrated that t-mobile calls it unlimited at all. It's a lie in itself because the service is limited in one way or another, it's not fair to still call it unlimited just because it's not limited in the way it usually is. :laugh:
sprint................suckkkksssssss! Had the service for 4 days and it was painful with roaming, pathetic speeds. Tmobile is insane in my area with their 3g+ I get consistent 15mbs down and 3mbs up. learn to find wifi and use it. wifi is our friend.
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I'm just frustrated that t-mobile calls it unlimited at all. It's a lie in itself because the service is limited in one way or another, it's not fair to still call it unlimited just because it's not limited in the way it usually is. :laugh:
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But they don't call it unlimited 4G access anywhere I've seen. They call it, quite clearly, unlimited data with xGB of high speed data. And they deliver exactly on that promise.
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So please explain to us all how it's T-Mobiles fault? You obviously know what your usage habits are. You should know if 5GB a month won't be enough for you. I download apps, play online games, watch YouTube, surf the net, etc.. 2GB a month works well for me. So obviously if you use that much data it's on you and not on them. Upgrade to the highest plan and quit complaining.
No one's fault but your own, sorry.
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++++1 On this. I consider myself an average to moderate user when it comes to data. I use the WIFI only at my house, and I have a 5 GB data plan. I have yet to pass 2GB of usage since switching from Sprint 3 months ago. On another note, I average 17MB down and 3MB up in my area, which is faster than my own internet service provider, and on Sprint I would average around 700KB down and 300KB up. Good luck switching to Sprint.
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Yeah, after I realized that I'd lose the "4G" with the one on t-mobile waiting for sprint to roll out LTE in orlando, I think the best way to do this is trim down my music library and keep it on an SD, and just use play music to push new songs
I'm just frustrated that t-mobile calls it unlimited at all. It's a lie in itself because the service is limited in one way or another, it's not fair to still call it unlimited just because it's not limited in the way it usually is. :laugh:
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Your frustrated...uh huh..sorry but I'm frustrated reading this post...They call it unlimited 2 gb, 5 gb.. there's a reason for the number after the unlimited, also read the fine print it says they throttle your speeds... In the future you should really try to read the fine print and ask questions like why is the unlimited 2gb cheaper then the unlimited 5 gb... Make sure YOU don't make the same mistake again in when you actually buy something important with financing like a car or house...
Op I say check in your area and see if sprint has good coverage and good network speed in your area before making any moves. I live in Miami and still have my e4gt since I rely on wimax and it isn't a big upgrade difference with the s3, here's some speed test I took a few days ago using wimax
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I rather get an average of 9-11mbps and highs 13-14mbps on a good day and have unlimited then to have 20-60mbps and have a data cap but that's just me lol, the speeds I get now is good enough to browse, play hd YouTube videos with no problem, and tether with good speeds too.
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Im sure most peeps know this but tmobile does in if fact throttle your 3g service if you go over 10mb here is the text I got today.
(Free T-Mobile msg: Your usage has reached the data threshold for your rate plan this month. Your speed has been reduced for the rest of this billing cycle.)
Anyway just FYI in case people didnt know.i called and argued about paying 30 bucks a month to be throttled down.they said when u go over you switch from 3g to edge.thanks ping33tx
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Take it you ment 10gigs.
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Im sure most peeps know this but tmobile does if fact throttle your 3g service if you go over 10mb here is the text I got today.
(Free T-Mobile msg: Your usage has reached the data threshold for your rate plan this month. Your speed has been reduced for the rest of this billing cycle.)
Anyway just FYI in case people didnt know.i called and argued about paying 30 bucks a month to be throttled down.they said when u go over you switch from 3g to edge.thanks ping33tx
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it's 10gb not 10mb. and that's a reasonable limit before throttling. there are other threads on this as well.
Does this count for downloading 10mb apps and stuff? I have not been throttled down and thought this was only a myth...10gb is a lot to go through a month for me anyway though
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Nope the chat rep said 10mb.now that person might have made a typo im just saying what was typed
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What are you doing on your phone that you need 10GB of data?
This is not new news. It's been like this for months.
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Nope the chat rep said 10mb.now that person might have made a typo im just saying what was typed
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lol. then everyone on this forum would be throttled on their first day of their billing cycle every month....
it's 10gb. been that way for a long time.
Well being a shift worker at a refinery n working nite,netflix comes in handy to make 12hrs go by been doing it for months n months n never got this text until today
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Well being a shift worker at a refinery n working nite,netflix comes in handy to make 12hrs go by been doing it for months n months n never got this text until today
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There you go!
As I am new to android/smartphones, can anyone tell me if there is any easy way to check your current data usage to see where you stand?
Yeah that might be,but the way I see it if your paying 30 bucks a month for unlimited then it should be just that.Hell my dsl is faster n cheaper lol and use ten times what I use on the mobile..Oh well just passing along,some peeps might not know.just trying to help
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Yeah that might be,but the way I see it if your paying 30 bucks a month for unlimited then it should be just that.Hell my dsl is faster n cheaper lol and use ten times what I use on the mobile..Oh well just passing along,some peeps might not know.just trying to help
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Hell your DSL is not the same as wireless. 10GB on a cellular network is a lot.
Yep ur correct on that.despite that moral of the story is if ur paying for a product you should be able to get that product.Right?
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Yep ur correct on that.despite that moral of the story is if ur paying for a product you should be able to get that product.Right?
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this has been discussed thoroughly in other threads....
but, basically, you are still receiving the product (unlimited web access, which is the same cost even if there isn't 3g in your area), just at a slower speed. a lot of cable and dsl companies do the same thing and their networks aren't as impacted by heavy bandwidth usage.
The dumb part is 10gig's isn't much anymore, some apps/games download 80-100 megs worth of stuff.
Not only that but last I checked the Samsung Vibrant comes with mobile TV app does it not?
So whats the point of having apps that are going to eat up data, are only good when they have 3g and we only have 10gigs or use or that?
It makes me sick every time I see ATT's dumb as use our internet commercial and don't state it's a 250 meg and 2.5 gig plans.
Tmobile isn't very far from being in the same boat because they give you a phone with mobitv and advertise the screen and playing movies and then expect you to not use it (and the data cell line to it) to stream videos/movies/shows?
Same thing for Win7, etc..
ALL these phones now are capable of pulling 100's of gigs of data in a month, yet they want us to accept a neutered phone with only 10 gigs of worthy access at descent speeds.
And no edge isn't worthy, might as well not have a data connection for anything other than checking email or getting tweets because it's way to slow.
So either go back to selling just dumb phones, or they need to expect people to be using more data.
I just don't see the point in living in this internet data based world and having all these damn cell phone companies refuse to allow us to enjoy it by not offering a true unlimited internet 3g connection to our phones.
And it's not the data pipe, or the usage thats a bull**** argument because the following companies offer unlimited internet through cell towers for laptops/home computers verizon/virgin mobile/sprint and sprint offers unlimited 3g to their 4g phones.
So no it's not about them "coping" with us the evil eaters of all the bandwith. If that was the case nobody, not one company could offer true unlimited 3g/4g but it is out there just not for the vast majority of the companies/options and you have zero options if you are GSM only like me which sucks.
I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that
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I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that
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Yes and I could offer to chop off only a pinky instead of your whole hand so thats better as well right?
Don't think so, if the cell companies want to make use of the airwaves that are limited, they should be forced to offer a unlimited internet package on all their services.
Same for home phone companies, if they want to offer phone service they need to offer dsl to all their customers, and have a unlimited package.
It's just tiring to see commercial after commercial showing this and that on the internet and you have to go to virgin mobile to be able to get unlimited 3g for a home connection. And they only charge me 10 bucks more than the cost for the internet on my phone.
So no I don't think it's to unreasonable to ask for unlimited 3g on my vibrant when you consider I pay about 80 bucks a month, and I use about less than 1 hour of talk time, only a few hundred text so the only real thing they are providing me in quantity for 80 bucks is internet and they can't even do that "right".
Honestly it hardly effects me because I don't have 3g where I live, but I do travel to 3g areas so I don't want to have that slow down.
I got a message telling me my connection was throttled as well. Problem is I haven't been using my phone. I checked my usage on the t-mobile website and it claimed my phone used a gigabyte while I was sleeping. At various points my phone seems to do a few hundred megabytes at random. This has been happening the last few days, which corresponds to the time that the gmail application stopped syncing on my phone. Is this a common problem?
Virgin Mobile/Sprint is giving unlimited 3G away for a few reasons
- Subscriber additions
- Underused EV-DO network (soon to be overloaded with unlimited usage+Evo/Epic; it's already happening) There isn't enough bandwidth to go around. Two people streaming YouTube constantly is enough to bring your overall data through put below 1Mbps where it was probably 2Mbps before.
- Subscriber additions, Sprint is hurting for them.
Very well spoken thats been my whole point to start with
I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that
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Yes and I could offer to chop off only a pinky instead of your whole hand so thats better as well right?
Don't think so, if the cell companies want to make use of the airwaves that are limited, they should be forced to offer a unlimited internet package on all their services.
Same for home phone companies, if they want to offer phone service they need to offer dsl to all their customers, and have a unlimited package.
It's just tiring to see commercial after commercial showing this and that on the internet and you have to go to virgin mobile to be able to get unlimited 3g for a home connection. And they only charge me 10 bucks more than the cost for the internet on my phone.
So no I don't think it's to unreasonable to ask for unlimited 3g on my vibrant when you consider I pay about 80 bucks a month, and I use about less than 1 hour of talk time, only a few hundred text so the only real thing they are providing me in quantity for 80 bucks is internet and they can't even do that "right".
Honestly it hardly effects me because I don't have 3g where I live, but I do travel to 3g areas so I don't want to have that slow down.
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In about a month I am leaving Sprint due to their terrible terrible horrendous data speeds in south Louisiana. I also have lot's of doubt and trust in their huge Network upgrade and I don't feel like waiting a year more. I'm getting Verizon and the Galaxy Nexus. If you experience similar frustration with Sprint feel free to vent and post speed test results etc. Does anybody know any way to get out of contract without an ETF?
haha, i live in baton rouge and i dont like sprint either. i was thinking of switching to Verizon when my contract ends since they have 4g lte in baton rouge.
Yes their 3G speeds suck but having true unlimited is important to me since I stream a lot of music/video so that makes up for it.
See ya! Jk. Sorry to hear about your speeds but their network upgrade is definitely worth the wait
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No. Will be waiting for their network upgrade. Sprint is the only network which allows a true nexus with wallet. I don't need to be forced with some apps which apparently can not be removed unless you root it.
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In about a month I am leaving Sprint due to their terrible terrible horrendous data speeds in south Louisiana. I also have lot's of doubt and trust in their huge Network upgrade and I don't feel like waiting a year more. I'm getting Verizon and the Galaxy Nexus. If you experience similar frustration with Sprint feel free to vent and post speed test results etc. Does anybody know any way to get out of contract without an ETF?
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If you're on a family plan and receiving employee discount pricing they're raising the price next month giving you a chance to get out without ETF as its a breach of the ToS.
Yup!!
I have been contemplating leaving sprint also. They may have truly unlimited data but in reality you dont use much data via sprint network as it takes forever to load anything in Baton Rouge. O and guess what, the data unlimited plan is not truly unlimited. The will cut off your service if you use over 5 gb (may be less) of data on 3g. It is only the use of 4g which is truly unlimited.
They have been saying Baton Rouge would have 4g since the evo came out and yet still nothing. The sad part is Hammond has 4g and the population is not even 1/8th of Baton Rouge's pop. I doubt BR will ever get 4g.
As far as getting out ETF free, good luck with that. I have tried every way possible with no luck. But what I have not done, which would definitely work, is stream as much youtube and download huge files as much as possible or force your phone into roaming on data and calls for consecutive months
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I have been contemplating leaving sprint also. They may have truly unlimited data but in reality you dont use much data via sprint network as it takes forever to load anything in Baton Rouge. O and guess what, the data unlimited plan is not truly unlimited. The will cut off your service if you use over 5 gb (may be less) of data on 3g. It is only the use of 4g which is truly unlimited.
They have been saying Baton Rouge would have 4g since the evo came out and yet still nothing. The sad part is Hammond has 4g and the population is not even 1/8th of Baton Rouge's pop. I doubt BR will ever get 4g.
As far as getting out ETF free, good luck with that. I have tried every way possible with no luck. But what I have not done, which would definitely work, is stream as much youtube and download huge files as much as possible or force your phone into roaming on data and calls for consecutive months
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where in hammond is there 4g? it does not specify 4g on the sprint 4g map
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If you're on a family plan and receiving employee discount pricing they're raising the price next month giving you a chance to get out without ETF as its a breach of the ToS.
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They are definitely not raising prices
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I have been contemplating leaving sprint also. They may have truly unlimited data but in reality you dont use much data via sprint network as it takes forever to load anything in Baton Rouge. O and guess what, the data unlimited plan is not truly unlimited. The will cut off your service if you use over 5 gb (may be less) of data on 3g. It is only the use of 4g which is truly unlimited.
They have been saying Baton Rouge would have 4g since the evo came out and yet still nothing. The sad part is Hammond has 4g and the population is not even 1/8th of Baton Rouge's pop. I doubt BR will ever get 4g.
As far as getting out ETF free, good luck with that. I have tried every way possible with no luck. But what I have not done, which would definitely work, is stream as much youtube and download huge files as much as possible or force your phone into roaming on data and calls for consecutive months
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No... They are unlimited on anything, how many times do people have to say this. 5gig cap is for hotspot and connection cards
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It's not the price they're raising but the amount you save from your employer discount is going to be a lot less. So it's definitely going to cost you more. They've been doing a lot of things that have been making people want to switch. They charge for "premium" data, completely stopped expanding 4g, scrapped the annual upgrade, killed the premier status, and now this? They're making it really hard for anyone to want to stick around...
The will cut off your service if you use over 5 gb (may be less) of data on 3g. It is only the use of 4g which is truly unlimited.
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not once in my 8 years with sprint have i ever had an issue with going over 5gb which i always do, nor have i ever heard anyone say it happened to them unless they were roaming more then using sprint
3G here in new Orleans has been terrible since 08 but there family plans just beats anyone. And I'm constantly around wifi so its not as bad.
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It's not the price they're raising but the amount you save from your employer discount is going to be a lot less. So it's definitely going to cost you more. They've been doing a lot of things that have been making people want to switch. They charge for "premium" data, completely stopped expanding 4g, scrapped the annual upgrade, killed the premier status, and now this? They're making it really hard for anyone to want to stick around...
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Anything is "a lot less" when people are just looking for an excuse to cancel. The highest discount will be losing $5.40 a month, but those are rare, most people will go down just a few cents to a dollar a month.
I actually like what they've been doing and the direction they're headed, it is putting a stop to all these people talking advantage of what they have to offer. Where I live, my 3G gets over 2Mbps and 4G gets 10 so my unlimited data works great
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No... They are unlimited on anything, how many times do people have to say this. 5gig cap is for hotspot and connection cards
Then why would they send me a letter about my 3g usage and direct me to this passage
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Specific Terms & Restrictions On Using Data Services
In addition to the rules for using all of our other Services, unless we identify the Service or Device that you have selected as specifically intended for that purpose (for example, wireless routers, Data Link, etc.), you can't use our data Services: (1) with server devices or host computer applications or other systems that drive continuous, heavy traffic or data sessions; (2) as a substitute or backup for private lines or frame relay connections; or (3) for any other unintended use as we determine in our sole discretion. We reserve the right to limit, suspend, or constrain any heavy, continuous data usage that adversely impacts our networks performances or hinders access to our networks. If your Services include web or data access, you also can't use your Device as a modem for computers or other equipment, unless we identify the Service or Device you have selected as specifically intended for that purpose (for example, with "phone as modem" plans, Sprint Mobile Broadband card plans, wireless router plans, etc.).
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where in hammond is there 4g? it does not specify 4g on the sprint 4g map
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4g is in the Best Buy area of Hammond. It doesnt show up on sprints map for some odd reason. if you dont believe me go to the area and try it out
If you want out, roam like a mofo. You have to roam a certain percentage in order for them to boot you.
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In addition to the rules for using all of our other Services, unless we identify the Service or Device that you have selected as specifically intended for that purpose (for example, wireless routers, Data Link, etc.), you can't use our data Services: (1) with server devices or host computer applications or other systems that drive continuous, heavy traffic or data sessions; (2) as a substitute or backup for private lines or frame relay connections; or (3) for any other unintended use as we determine in our sole discretion. We reserve the right to limit, suspend, or constrain any heavy, continuous data usage that adversely impacts our networks performances or hinders access to our networks. If your Services include web or data access, you also can't use your Device as a modem for computers or other equipment, unless we identify the Service or Device you have selected as specifically intended for that purpose (for example, with "phone as modem" plans, Sprint Mobile Broadband card plans, wireless router plans, etc.).
4g is in the Best Buy area of Hammond. It doesnt show up on sprints map for some odd reason. if you dont believe me go to the area and try it out
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Let me guess, you're tethering and using 50+ gigs a month? That's why you got that.
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im pretty sure sprint is unlimited no limitations
Have you considered moving away from Louisiana?
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Let me guess, you're tethering and using 50+ gigs a month? That's why you got that.
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I dont use tethering on my phone because I have wifi around most the places I go not to mention the data speeds in baton rouge are slower than dial-up, so tethering woudn't be much use. It was one of those months I was downloading a bunch of different roms though.
Sorry to burst your bubble but not all sprint customers are bad customers. I had them send me a letter a time before that to tell me I was using too many roaming minutes the previous months and when I checked my bill for the prior months I only had about 30 or 40 minutes roaming for all the months. I called them and they were at a loss for words
So, its just about time to upgrade to upgrade my Sprint Phone (Evo). I got it coming up in May, unless something changes I might be going with the SG2, just looks great and it has capabilities for LTE as well as Wimax.
I just got a new job that lets me get a discount on T-Mobile, and I after looking at their plans, it would save me a few bucks (literally like 4). I have heard rumors that HSPA+ is slighly faster than Wimax but I never compared the two.
So HSPA+ faster than Wimax?
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I use my phone 90% of the time as a router. My college blocks everything so I am always on tether. I just looked it up and used 16GB last month, and that seems to be the lower average. My point is that Sprint's unlimited truly means unlimited with no caps. T-Mobile throttles after 2GB or 5GB according to the plan. How much of a throttle? Is it significant?
It throttles you down to EDGE speeds, so 2g. Around 20kbps, which won't load a black and white smiley face on your screen for 20 seconds. If you're going to use more than 5GB's per month, stick with Sprint.
T-Mobile throttles at different tiers on different plans, from 100MB-5GB
Speeds on HSPA+ seem to be faster for me on T-Mobile than on Sprint in Portland, Oregon. That could be different for you, but T-Mobile's 42mbps HSPA+ Is closer to LTE than WiMax in my opinion.
In some areas T-Mobile also forcibly compresses all images pulled down in web pages regardless of your data usage and data plan. There is no way to turn this "feature" off.
Well first the SGS2 does not support Wimax and lte...no device does except for a hotspot...
Imho you will be better off not getting the SGS2 and instead using your upgrade on a truly new device that the hardware spec is not a year old almost. That is unless $ is a big factor and you don't want to spend $250ish on a device...
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Did some research and found you are right. It is really disappointing because I had a Sprint tech and a Sprint sales rep tell me point blank that the SG2 was Wimax and LTE. Can't trust people nowadays.
Battery consumption is much better with HSPA+ vs LTE.
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It throttles you down to EDGE speeds, so 2g. Around 20kbps, which won't load a black and white smiley face on your screen for 20 seconds. If you're going to use more than 5GB's per month, stick with Sprint.
T-Mobile throttles at different tiers on different plans, from 100MB-5GB
Speeds on HSPA+ seem to be faster for me on T-Mobile than on Sprint in Portland, Oregon. That could be different for you, but T-Mobile's 42mbps HSPA+ Is closer to LTE than WiMax in my opinion.
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Goes to up to 10.
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In some areas T-Mobile also forcibly compresses all images pulled down in web pages regardless of your data usage and data plan. There is no way to turn this "feature" off.
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False.
iball8888 said:
Did some research and found you are right. It is really disappointing because I had a Sprint tech and a Sprint sales rep tell me point blank that the SG2 was Wimax and LTE. Can't trust people nowadays.
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Yeah no problem, didn't want u going out and buying a device being that misled...
It's a shame when that crap happens to ppl.
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Yeah no problem, didn't want u going out and buying a device being that misled...
It's a shame when that crap happens to ppl.
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I used to be a Sprint store technician, and when the Epic Touch had the Loss of Signal issue (which has long been fixed, officially), Sprint's Tech Support over the phone told me that I should have bought an iPhone because Android always breaks. Word for word. I was like, ok so give me an iPhone, I'll give back the Epic Touch. And they said no.
These days you have to fend for yourself unfortunately. Chances are, if you're an XDA user, you know more than a carrier's tech support.
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Explain. I suffered this issue for four months and had to switch to AT&T to avoid it.
To the OP. I tried switching to t-mobile twice because IMO they have better phones and prices. but both times I had to switch back. my story: i knew tmobile had the 5gb data cap on teh monthly 4g plan i wanted so I checked my sprint data usage for 5 months and noticed i am only using 2-3 gb a month. I figured great so i went and got the Htc amaze after 6 days by data usage was over 1.5 gb. I went to the store and asked them is it possible that the data reading on the phone and website could be wrong? my setup was the same on my sprint evo and my htc amaze so it wasn't a program that could have been using that much data so i returned the phone. 2 weeks later i went back to the store drooling over the amaze but knew i couldn't get it because i would go over the 5gb easy. I spoke with a rep and he said he uses data heavily and never goes over so i said ok ill try it again maybe it was the phone. this time around i didn't tether at all except for 5 min to test it out. hardly used Pandora and made sure my setup was the same as the evo. this time i gave it 10 days and i was already over 3gb. i was half ass using my phone and still i would have been over. I have searched about this called tmobile and haven't come up with a good reason why this phone was using so much data. a buddy of mine went to att and i told him that he would def go over but after a few days he said no man im good . at the end of the month he called *****ing that he went over the att cap which was even lower than tmobile. until the come up with a prepaid plan that gives 10gb i have to stay away. oh yea and when they throttle you the above comments are correct its edge speed and way to slow for anything but email and light web surfing.
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I just looked it up and used 16GB last month, and that seems to be the lower average. My point is that Sprint's unlimited truly means unlimited with no caps. T-Mobile throttles after 2GB or 5GB according to the plan. How much of a throttle? Is it significant?
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I think this will be the main issue.
When I pass 5GB, I get throttled to EDGE (2G) speeds. For most purposes this is like running out of data. You're going to be stuck at 2GB or 5GB. Email is fine at EDGE speeds - anything else requires too much speed.
Stick with Sprint, as it seems the savings aren't really significant, anyway.
IMO Sprint sucks if you're not in a Wimax area and the Wimax isn't that great anyway.. Sprint's EVDO network is an absolute JOKE. I figured since I'm not covered by Wimax I'd switch my E4GT to Boost to save money, but Boost's(Sprint's) EVDO was nowhere near as fast as T-Mobile's 3G.. It really sucks because my E4GT is hands down the best phone I've ever used, but the internet is almost unusable it's so slow.. I'm putting it up for sale soon to switch back to T-Mobile.
Speeds really depend on where you live. I have spotty 4g in my area but never need it. at my house i have to use wifi but in most places i can stream Pandora without any buffering. everyone always talks about speed but as long as you can stream music and video without and buffering whats the issue? unless you are tethering to your pc and downloading torrents speeds over 250kps will stream just fine.
This is how Verizon does it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA&feature=channel
Now that is throttling right there. They send me a new phone and it does the same. They have lied to me 3 times now, one that was just needed a reset, that I just needed a new phone and they don't throttle. I had only used 12GB and they do that. OK thats BS
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IMO Sprint sucks if you're not in a Wimax area and the Wimax isn't that great anyway.. Sprint's EVDO network is an absolute JOKE. I figured since I'm not covered by Wimax I'd switch my E4GT to Boost to save money, but Boost's(Sprint's) EVDO was nowhere near as fast as T-Mobile's 3G.. It really sucks because my E4GT is hands down the best phone I've ever used, but the internet is almost unusable it's so slow.. I'm putting it up for sale soon to switch back to T-Mobile.
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Gonna be leaving right before the network takes a giant improvement with the network vision deployment set to be complete by end of next year....3G speeds 1-3Mbps....most all 3G coverage blanketed by LTE.....
Check S4GRU.com for some details on the rollout schedule. This isn't the sprint.com/network crap that's shown this is completely different and involves backhaul changes from the ancient T1 based to microwave/fiber based...
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T-mobile rocks over Sprint for data, coverage and price
flexte said:
To the OP. I tried switching to t-mobile twice because IMO they have better phones and prices. but both times I had to switch back. my story: i knew tmobile had the 5gb data cap on teh monthly 4g plan i wanted so I checked my sprint data usage for 5 months and noticed i am only using 2-3 gb a month. I figured great so i went and got the Htc amaze after 6 days by data usage was over 1.5 gb. I went to the store and asked them is it possible that the data reading on the phone and website could be wrong? my setup was the same on my sprint evo and my htc amaze so it wasn't a program that could have been using that much data so i returned the phone. 2 weeks later i went back to the store drooling over the amaze but knew i couldn't get it because i would go over the 5gb easy. I spoke with a rep and he said he uses data heavily and never goes over so i said ok ill try it again maybe it was the phone. this time around i didn't tether at all except for 5 min to test it out. hardly used Pandora and made sure my setup was the same as the evo. this time i gave it 10 days and i was already over 3gb. i was half ass using my phone and still i would have been over. I have searched about this called tmobile and haven't come up with a good reason why this phone was using so much data. a buddy of mine went to att and i told him that he would def go over but after a few days he said no man im good . at the end of the month he called *****ing that he went over the att cap which was even lower than tmobile. until the come up with a prepaid plan that gives 10gb i have to stay away. oh yea and when they throttle you the above comments are correct its edge speed and way to slow for anything but email and light web surfing.
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I picked up my HTC Amaze (a 42.2 mbps device) on T-mobile in early January, and I live in a California city that has T-mobile HSPA+ 42.2 mbps coverage, just to be clear. When I bought my Amaze, I had to re-up my contract and at the time, I was asked to choose between a 5GB plan per month ($25 on top of the monthly $40 value plan) and a 10GB plan per month ($50 + my $40 value plan). So for price, it is impossible to beat T-mobile for the service you get.
I use my Amaze daily to go online, download and upload large files (I am a graphic designer) and watch videos and stream music. For the last 5 months I've had my phone, I've come close to 5GB twice. That is with heavy usage and this last month having a nearly two hour Skype conversation with a friend of mine where I used 2GB in one sitting!!! I also use my phone with the free WiFi Hotspot feature that comes with the 5GB & 10GB data plan as my computer's internet provider. I don't have a physical cable in my house, just my Amaze.
As far as speed, my friends with iPhones on ALL 3 NETWORKS (Sprint, Verizon and AT&T) all get slower speeds than I do. I was challenged by them and shut them all up in contests against google searches, Siri vs Google Voice Search and Speedtest.net. I have also speedtested the nicer handsets by Samsung and HTC running on AT&T and matched or beat them in my city in a few places around town. Sprint's speed was not even on the radar, barely chugging at 1mbps usually. I pull over 12 mbps usually everywhere I go, with upload speeds from 5-8 mbps on average.
As far as data, I have never gone over my 5GB but see how others could, and I bet when T-mobile gets LTE Advance up and running I'll add in the extra 5 gigs.
The greater points I'm making are the following:
A) Sprint's network it a sham. Even when they finally get around to offering LTE in California, which will be who-knows-when, T-mobile will have switched on its LTE advanced release 10 network, with HSPA+ 42.2 mbps backup, nationally. If you're a Sprint user, jump ship now or when T-mobile lights it up in 2013.
B) It's pretty darn hard to use up 5 Gigs per month if your not a power user. I don't know how someone with the HTC Amaze and the Usage monitor that is part of T-mobile's apps and in the HTC phone itself can't determine what was eating up data. That just doesn't make sense. You can easily pinpoint what's using your data by using the included Usage setting on your phone. And if 5GB isn't enough, get 10! But that option does exist.
C) T-mobile may not offer unlimited data speed at 4G, but get a 10GB plan and you will fly over the speeds you get on Sprint and save money while doing it. You could pay one price on Sprint for 1.5 mbps download speed unlimited (SLOW), or you could pay the same, maybe a little less and get 10GB at 4G speeds on T-mobile... and then in 2013 enjoy them lighting up a national LTE advance network that will arguably be the speediest LTE network on the planet.
D) The HTC Amaze is one bad-ass MoFo of a phone.
That is all.
for me i switched from t-mobile to boost because of their lack of 3g/4g in my town on t-mobile i was always on edge it is very slow, i switched to boost and i have EvDO now, its not the best of the best but atleast i can open a website now without my screen timing out. :good:
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I used to be a Sprint store technician, and when the Epic Touch had the Loss of Signal issue (which has long been fixed, officially), Sprint's Tech Support over the phone told me that I should have bought an iPhone because Android always breaks. Word for word. I was like, ok so give me an iPhone, I'll give back the Epic Touch. And they said no.
These days you have to fend for yourself unfortunately. Chances are, if you're an XDA user, you know more than a carrier's tech support.
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You know what, they did the same thing to my dad. There was a hardware issue with his OG evo (a great phone during its day) where the speaker was going too quiet. The sales guy basically was telling him how it's because it's an android phone, how much better iphone is, etc.
Honestly I think the reason they are doing this is because they literally bet their future on the iphone. They are guaranteed to be paying apple 16 billion dollars over the next 4 years, regardless of whether or not they actually sell that much money worth of iphones. You better believe that they are going to try their damndest to sell them.
Anyways, I'm thinking of ditching sprint for t-mobile myself. I live in phoenix, which has zero 4g coverage from sprint. Several years back they told me that they would be deploying wimax here shortly. Where are we now? Nowhere.
I called them earlier today to cancel one of my lines, and they kept asking me if I want to use it for a data card, or if I just wanted to hold on to it "just in case" etc. I told the lady that I am thinking of switching to t-mobile, gave her all of these reasons why, and she brings up the "unlimited data" talking point. I kind of chuckle under my breath, and then tell her that their 3g service is really slow, their 4g service barely compares to other carrier's 3g service, and finally, they don't even offer 4g in my area, which is the 6th largest city in the US. She then tells me that they are going to be offering it here soon, so I tell her that that's what they told me a few years ago.
Yeah there are "rumors" that phoenix is due early in their second rollout, however similar rumors kept surfacing about wimax coming to phoenix next an entire year after it finished rolling out everywhere else. Other smaller towns outside of the valley (and I mean like over 70 miles away) got it, but not in the valley area.
In any case, I am on my third "4g" phone, and still have not ever had 4g. Even if LTE came soon to my area, I'm not terribly excited about it, mainly because the LTE gnex has a quarter of the battery life of the HSPA version when both are actively using 4g. I don't care if LTE is 10% faster, it's a huge f*cking battery drain.
Anyways, I'm not a heavy data user, so 4g hasn't been a huge priority to me. What is annoying is how I have to fight sprint's billing department every other month because they always manage to screw up something on my bill and overcharge me. I've been dealing with this for the last 7 years and I am tired of it. Sprint sucks, 'nuff said.
I really want to jump off of sprint, but I am hesitant because I don't know if t-mobile's voice service is more spotty, because according to sensorly their coverage is about 80% of that of sprint in my area. However, t-mobile would save me $40 a month, and because of the company I work for, I will have the activation fee waived.
Sprint coverage is so spotty. According to the coverage map I'm suppose to get 4g in my neighborhood and I don't. 98% percent of the time I'm on slow 3g. With T-Mobile I'm on 4g everywhere I go and its a good feeling to pull out your phone and handle your business with ease and speed unlike sprint.
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So I find out today that I haven't really been using "america's fastest 4g network". Apparently my old Basic Android data plan or whatever it's called, doesn't give me full 4g speed. I've only been getting HALF of what I could be getting. This wouldn't bother me so much if I wasn't paying $30 bucks a month for this when the 2gb unlimited plan (I know, sounds funny, huh? 2gb UNLIMITED) is only $20. Even when I purchased my GS3, no one told me, "Hey, you know, you're not getting the full advantage of the speeds your phone is capable of." I guess they'd rather I spend the extra $10 a month and use less bandwidth at the same time. Why not, huh?
So my question is two-fold. First, is it possible those of you who claim to get sloooow dl's ALSO are on this old data plan and THAT's why it's so slow for them? And second, why didn't anyone tell me the whole time I had to deal with these schmucks for the last two weeks, that I needed a different data plan to achieve the full potential of the phone? Why don't they advise people with this older data plan that the speeds are not the same as the newer plans? They definitely never advertised the new plans as being faster than the older one's so how the hell was I ever supposed to know?
Have you ran a speed test? If not get the app from the play store and then go into the T-Mobile store and ask them what is up.
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So I find out today that I haven't really been using "america's fastest 4g network". Apparently my old Basic Android data plan or whatever it's called, doesn't give me full 4g speed. I've only been getting HALF of what I could be getting. This wouldn't bother me so much if I wasn't paying $30 bucks a month for this when the 2gb unlimited plan (I know, sounds funny, huh? 2gb UNLIMITED) is only $20. Even when I purchased my GS3, no one told me, "Hey, you know, you're not getting the full advantage of the speeds your phone is capable of." I guess they'd rather I spend the extra $10 a month and use less bandwidth at the same time. Why not, huh?
So my question is two-fold. First, is it possible those of you who claim to get sloooow dl's ALSO are on this old data plan and THAT's why it's so slow for them? And second, why didn't anyone tell me the whole time I had to deal with these schmucks for the last two weeks, that I needed a different data plan to achieve the full potential of the phone? Why don't they advise people with this older data plan that the speeds are not the same as the newer plans? They definitely never advertised the new plans as being faster than the older one's so how the hell was I ever supposed to know?
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cincygeek said:
Have you ran a speed test? If not get the app from the play store and then go into the T-Mobile store and ask them what is up.
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Of course I did, how else do you think I know? I've already asked and been told that my plan doesn't support the speeds. I was getting the exact same speeds in multiple places, as I did with my Sensation so I know this is true. I did change my plan, but apparently, it won't take effect until my next billing cycle, which seems stupid to me but whatever. I just don't understand why they've never tried to push a better, possibly more expensive, data plan?
Snook321 said:
Speeds are fine over here
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What data plan do you have?
I'm using T-Mo's old Android data plan and i'm getting Faux G speeds of 7-13Mbs. You don't need to upgrade your plan to get faster speeds. I do believe they have to provision the device for use of their 42Mb service but that should have been done when they activated your new sim card. Do you know which plan you had before?
tony yayo said:
So I find out today that I haven't really been using "america's fastest 4g network". Apparently my old Basic Android data plan or whatever it's called, doesn't give me full 4g speed. I've only been getting HALF of what I could be getting. This wouldn't bother me so much if I wasn't paying $30 bucks a month for this when the 2gb unlimited plan (I know, sounds funny, huh? 2gb UNLIMITED) is only $20. Even when I purchased my GS3, no one told me, "Hey, you know, you're not getting the full advantage of the speeds your phone is capable of." I guess they'd rather I spend the extra $10 a month and use less bandwidth at the same time. Why not, huh?
So my question is two-fold. First, is it possible those of you who claim to get sloooow dl's ALSO are on this old data plan and THAT's why it's so slow for them? And second, why didn't anyone tell me the whole time I had to deal with these schmucks for the last two weeks, that I needed a different data plan to achieve the full potential of the phone? Why don't they advise people with this older data plan that the speeds are not the same as the newer plans? They definitely never advertised the new plans as being faster than the older one's so how the hell was I ever supposed to know?
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T-Mobile's enhanced backhaul 3G service isn't that much faster in real use than normal 3G. Important to realize Tmobile doesn't have a 4G network, just an enhanced 3G one.
I have a Dell Streak 7 (cell now turned off) that barely outpaced their normal 3G.
Are you in a 4g area? Home isn't for me but work is... big difference between the 2
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tony yayo said:
What data plan do you have?
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Preferred Android Plan... they changed it from my old G1 plan. Grandfathered
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Depending on where you live (how far away from the nearest tower) your reception is going to be impacted differently than others. I myself live in Arlington Heights which is about 25-30 minute outside of Chicago.
Here's what I get on T-Mobile with my GS3. Speeds for me are perfect. Remember T-Mobile doesn't have true LTE 4G. They use HSPA+ which is like 3.5G.
A few people in chicago area in this thread posted their speed test and seem to have decent results..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734739&highlight=your+carrier+speed+test
Speeds are fine in central texas
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1SiK1500 said:
A few people in chicago area in this thread posted their speed test and seem to have decent results..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734739&highlight=your+carrier+speed+test
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I'm in Arlington Heights as well. I don't get more than 10Mbps. Hmm..
And I had the old grandfathered data plan also.
Still being told I need the newer plan for faster speeds. Got my grandfathered plan reinstated for now until I figure out the deal. Just in case.
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Still being told I need the newer plan for faster speeds. Got my grandfathered plan reinstated for now until I figure out the deal. Just in case.
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Weird.. I have Classic Unlimited Talk/Text for $59 and then 2GB of data for $20.
Have you tried the network boost apps from market? I tried this one and it has increased my 4G speeds at home which was poor before.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.freshnetwork
White Hot! GS3.
LuRock said:
Have you tried the network boost apps from market? I tried this one and it has increased my 4G speeds at home which was poor before.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.freshnetwork
White Hot! GS3.
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I've been curious on apps like that. Is it just a placebo app or does it actually work? Is there any scientific proof to back this app up?
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Weird.. I have Classic Unlimited Talk/Text for $59 and then 2GB of data for $20.
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Yeah, you have the plan they say I need. That or the 5gb plan, but I have the old $30 data plan that i guess has the 5gb threshold. One of the mods in the TMO forum told me my plan is fine. So why you are getting double the speeds I'm getting, in the same exact town? So I ended up calling tech support and she tried to do something but I swear whatever she did, my speeds are actually a tad slower now.
So i guess its just a bad signal at home. I live by Johnnies Beef and get terrible speeds. Went to Olive Garden by Woodfield mall last night and was pullin in over 20mbps. Crazy how a couple miles makes such a huge difference.
Hold on. When you upgraded your phone, did they require you to upgrade your plan also? I hardly use over 2gb a month and I'd like to keep it that way, not some gimmick 5gb for $30
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Not sure if anyone noticed but Verizon announced yesterday it was bringing back unlimited data! I was on the 24 GB plan with 10 devices. The VZ web site is basically down when you try and upgrade so I spent 2 hours on hold. When I finally got someone they compared what I pay now with what it would cost to go to unlimited. My cost went DOWN 30 bucks a month to go to unlimited. They can throttle you after 22 GB but only if there is heavy network congestion. I think this is the same thing T-Mobile and AT&T too. This new plan also provides 10 GB of hotspot use. I signed up just now.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/pla...=p&gclid=CNG6oabNjdICFcPqDQodRpkFHw&gclsrc=ds
Yeah this was all over Internet. Bad news: you can't use corporate discount. I am better off on their short lived 12 GB plan+2 extra GB wth rollover as it is cheaper wth corporate discount. Many months I have 20+ GB which is more than enough for me.
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Just read up on this. Not a huge fan of Verizon but some things seem a little off to me about this plan.
"Everything included in Verizon Unlimited:
Unlimited talk, text and data.
If a line uses 22GB of data in a billing cycle, Verizon can throttle that line within the rest of the cycle should it attach to a congested network location.
10GB per month per line of 4G LTE tethering; drops to 3G after first 10GB.
Unlimited calls and text to Mexico and Canada.
Unlimited talk, text, and data in Mexico and Canada. Only first 500MB of data at 4G LTE speeds; 2G afterwards.
“Full-quality HD video,” which Verizon says comes at you the way the partner sends it. It’s not throttled to 480p like T-Mobile and Sprint do. Technically, that should mean you get 4K streams, 1080p streams, and whatever else is sent to you from a partner (the app you are streaming from). There isn’t a toggle on or off – you just get HD and above streams if the partner is sending that level of stream."
Source: http://www.droid-life.com/2017/02/12/verizon-unlimited-plan-faq-pricing-availability/
I've highlighted two bullets there for a very specific reason. In my experience, the unlimited plans are great for people that are constantly scrolling their way through Facebook and Instagram and can't stay off Snapchat. Additionally (and perhaps more importantly), these plans are useful for people that like to stream videos and shows when WiFi isn't available to them. The fact that these videos are streamed to your device in the highest quality the connection can achieve is actually a problem. This is because you only get 10GB of 4G LTE data a month, afterwards it's throttled to 3G. This means that watching videos will use up your 10GB in a flash and then you'll be stuck with mediocre speeds.
For comparison, the equivalent T-Mobile plan gives you 26 GBs of unthrottled data for $10 less, after which you have the chance of being throttled. The only drawback being that all of the video content you watch is in 460p or less. Either way, it's kind of cool to see Verizon bringing this plan back. Competition is usually good for consumers.
EDIT: jk, this is wrong lol
Alcolawl said:
Just read up on this. Not a huge fan of Verizon but some things seem a little off to me about this plan.
"Everything included in Verizon Unlimited:
Unlimited talk, text and data.
If a line uses 22GB of data in a billing cycle, Verizon can throttle that line within the rest of the cycle should it attach to a congested network location.
10GB per month per line of 4G LTE tethering; drops to 3G after first 10GB.
Unlimited calls and text to Mexico and Canada.
Unlimited talk, text, and data in Mexico and Canada. Only first 500MB of data at 4G LTE speeds; 2G afterwards.
“Full-quality HD video,” which Verizon says comes at you the way the partner sends it. It’s not throttled to 480p like T-Mobile and Sprint do. Technically, that should mean you get 4K streams, 1080p streams, and whatever else is sent to you from a partner (the app you are streaming from). There isn’t a toggle on or off – you just get HD and above streams if the partner is sending that level of stream."
Source: http://www.droid-life.com/2017/02/12/verizon-unlimited-plan-faq-pricing-availability/
I've highlighted two bullets there for a very specific reason. In my experience, the unlimited plans are great for people that are constantly scrolling their way through Facebook and Instagram and can't stay off Snapchat. Additionally (and perhaps more importantly), these plans are useful for people that like to stream videos and shows when WiFi isn't available to them. The fact that these videos are streamed to your device in the highest quality the connection can achieve is actually a problem. This is because you only get 10GB of 4G LTE data a month, afterwards it's throttled to 3G. This means that watching videos will use up your 10GB in a flash and then you'll be stuck with mediocre speeds.
For comparison, the equivalent T-Mobile plan gives you 26 GBs of unthrottled data for $10 less, after which you have the chance of being throttled. The only drawback being that all of the video content you watch is in 460p or less. Either way, it's kind of cool to see Verizon bringing this plan back. Competition is usually good for consumers.
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The only thing that is getting throttled is your tethering (hotspot) after 10gigs ..
As far as streaming movies and TV shows from your phone, you can do that as much as you want. And you won't notice and slowdown unless there is heavy network congestion AND you've used over 22gig already.
Nothing off or weird about this at all.
swapavi said:
The only thing that is getting throttled is your tethering (hotspot) after 10gigs ..
As far as streaming movies and TV shows from your phone, you can do that as much as you want. And you won't notice and slowdown unless there is heavy network congestion AND you've used over 22gig already.
Nothing off or weird about this at all.
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I stand corrected. Thanks for clearing that up, I misread the DroidLife article on the matter. Carry on.
Alcolawl said:
Just read up on this. Not a huge fan of Verizon but some things seem a little off to me about this plan.
"Everything included in Verizon Unlimited:
Unlimited talk, text and data.
If a line uses 22GB of data in a billing cycle, Verizon can throttle that line within the rest of the cycle should it attach to a congested network location.
10GB per month per line of 4G LTE tethering; drops to 3G after first 10GB.
Unlimited calls and text to Mexico and Canada.
Unlimited talk, text, and data in Mexico and Canada. Only first 500MB of data at 4G LTE speeds; 2G afterwards.
“Full-quality HD video,” which Verizon says comes at you the way the partner sends it. It’s not throttled to 480p like T-Mobile and Sprint do. Technically, that should mean you get 4K streams, 1080p streams, and whatever else is sent to you from a partner (the app you are streaming from). There isn’t a toggle on or off – you just get HD and above streams if the partner is sending that level of stream."
Source: http://www.droid-life.com/2017/02/12/verizon-unlimited-plan-faq-pricing-availability/
I've highlighted two bullets there for a very specific reason. In my experience, the unlimited plans are great for people that are constantly scrolling their way through Facebook and Instagram and can't stay off Snapchat. Additionally (and perhaps more importantly), these plans are useful for people that like to stream videos and shows when WiFi isn't available to them. The fact that these videos are streamed to your device in the highest quality the connection can achieve is actually a problem. This is because you only get 10GB of 4G LTE data a month, afterwards it's throttled to 3G. This means that watching videos will use up your 10GB in a flash and then you'll be stuck with mediocre speeds.
For comparison, the equivalent T-Mobile plan gives you 26 GBs of unthrottled data for $10 less, after which you have the chance of being throttled. The only drawback being that all of the video content you watch is in 460p or less. Either way, it's kind of cool to see Verizon bringing this plan back. Competition is usually good for consumers.
EDIT: jk, this is wrong lol
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Alcolawl said:
I stand corrected. Thanks for clearing that up, I misread the DroidLife article on the matter. Carry on.
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Lol not a problem. Just didn't want any misinformation about the new plan being thrown around, because in some regards, this could be better than T-Mobile's plan.
TMobile is upping there game now! Gotta love competition...
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/02/1...ted-plan-caves-hd-video-high-speed-tethering/
Inapplicable corporate discount is what's keeping me from upgrading to this plan. I get 21% off. That's a significant amount.
I wonder what the core differences are between the old Unlimited data plan that costs $50 now vs this new one. I know they both will have the 22GB "soft cap" as that has been a thing for quite some time now. Since I'm sure quite a few of us tether without the extra monthly charge I wonder if we were to switch over and they provision our line, Verizon would be able to detect this? If that is the case 10GB being tethered will go fast especially when you're watching videos. I tether my devices a lot at work to listen music and watch YouTube and I can exceed that quite quickly. I'm wondering with the new plan with custom software on our devices if they would be able to detect the tethering activity or not. Looking forward to seeing people's thoughts on this . I'd save $8/month switching to the new plan even w/ my 21% discount not applying.
I get veterans discount so I'm really debating about doing this. I wonder since I have the bypass that the tethering would still get bypassed so instead of the 10gb it would be on the mobile side data.
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Just switched to new unlimited. saving me like $24
coldconfession13 said:
I get veterans discount so I'm really debating about doing this. I wonder since I have the bypass that the tethering would still get bypassed so instead of the 10gb it would be on the mobile side data.
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Just switched to new unlimited. saving me like $24
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Can you tell me please when you tether does it show your 10GB allotment being used on your Verizon page?
Won't go into effect till next bill period which is in march
coldconfession13 said:
Won't go into effect till next bill period which is in march
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I guess it would be a messy bill if you did make the change to go into effect immediately. Verizon and their prorations and month in advance billing.
Yup it would have been 213 or some crap
I switched immediately. Dropped my bill by about 20 or so.
won't save me any money with them taking away the corporate discount. It would cost me 45 more. I rarely use more than 2 GB a month, always on wifi (at work, home, wherever xfinity has a hotspot). I am on the 12GB plan and have 2 GB of bonus data from getting my pixel xl.
zetsumeikuro said:
I wonder what the core differences are between the old Unlimited data plan that costs $50 now vs this new one. I know they both will have the 22GB "soft cap" as that has been a thing for quite some time now. Since I'm sure quite a few of us tether without the extra monthly charge I wonder if we were to switch over and they provision our line, Verizon would be able to detect this? If that is the case 10GB being tethered will go fast especially when you're watching videos. I tether my devices a lot at work to listen music and watch YouTube and I can exceed that quite quickly. I'm wondering with the new plan with custom software on our devices if they would be able to detect the tethering activity or not. Looking forward to seeing people's thoughts on this . I'd save $8/month switching to the new plan even w/ my 21% discount not applying.
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The old plan doesn't have a throttle cap at all.
I lost my 20% Corporate discount but I kept running out of data with a week left in my cycle and I had the 30 GB plan. I have 6 phones and one tablet on my account. This new plan winds up costing about the same as the old plan with the 20% discount but I'll get more data as one phone rarely uses the bulk of our data. It's 4 of the 6. Even if they do throttle at 22 GB per line, that would be 88 GB in total on the 4 lines that use a lot of data.
It's not perfect, but it suits my needs better.
I have the old UDP with no cap use 200gb monthly never throttled and there's a loophole for the $29.99 pricing for UDP
Mike02z said:
Not sure if anyone noticed but Verizon announced yesterday it was bringing back unlimited data! I was on the 24 GB plan with 10 devices. The VZ web site is basically down when you try and upgrade so I spent 2 hours on hold. When I finally got someone they compared what I pay now with what it would cost to go to unlimited. My cost went DOWN 30 bucks a month to go to unlimited. They can throttle you after 22 GB but only if there is heavy network congestion. I think this is the same thing T-Mobile and AT&T too. This new plan also provides 10 GB of hotspot use. I signed up just now.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/pla...=p&gclid=CNG6oabNjdICFcPqDQodRpkFHw&gclsrc=ds
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Damn, 10 devices?!?! Very cool! What all do you have?
markwebb said:
Yeah this was all over Internet. Bad news: you can't use corporate discount. I am better off on their short lived 12 GB plan+2 extra GB wth rollover as it is cheaper wth corporate discount. Many months I have 20+ GB which is more than enough for me.
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Right now I am on 12 Gigs +6 Gigs Bonus Data. When I switch my bill goes up quite a bit. And I never use more than 10 gigs in a month. Not sure this is for me.
BurtGummer said:
Inapplicable corporate discount is what's keeping me from upgrading to this plan. I get 21% off. That's a significant amount.
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Yep, that was the other thing... No Corp Discount and must Auto pay on Checking Acount or a Debit Card... No credit cards allowed for auto pay on this program. :crying:
coldconfession13 said:
I get veterans discount so I'm really debating about doing this. I wonder since I have the bypass that the tethering would still get bypassed so instead of the 10gb it would be on the mobile side data.
*update*
Just switched to new unlimited. saving me like $24
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I am also a veteran... But I get a better discount with my employer. Did they let you apply veteran discount?