Database Users

RANT

Okay, so I've been doing some thinking... is Sprint just a bunch of assholes or what? They advertise the EVO as "The first 4G phone", but "plays nicely with 3G as well"... I think that's a load of **** fir the most part. For people like me, where when I looked on the Sprint coverage map for their 3G showed the best quality which is a load of crap.... my 3G speeds are terrible, luckily I have WiFi...but I'm not always home, so therefore it leaves me no choice but to use the horrible 3G that is mine. Voice/phone quality is amazing where I am, but really....if I can't even have decent speeds for 3G it's apparent that 4G may not even come to where I'm at.. it's just depressing, I feel like I'm paying for service that isn't entirely there, some of you may know what I mean...but yeah.. sucky part is that I can't cancel and go with someone else. I've had tmobile for years, never really had a problem with them, the evo was just so appealing...
/endrant
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

You had 30 days to decide to keep your phone, you did. Nobody wants to hear you cry about a poor decision you made.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Hold on let me get my violin
\\oops

Get over it u had 30 days u kept the phone so stop ur *****ing
from my phone duh

Interesting.. What are these horrible speeds? I live in the 4g dead zone and average about 1.2mb/s not super fast but it works. Also, Sprint seems to treat people good when you have a legitimate issue and you let them know nicely. Hell, years ago they gave me 25% off my bill when my mogul kept breaking over and over... I used the crap out of it, was wearing out keyboards in weeks. Try to call them, there's nothing we can do for you here.

Not sure where you live but in Arlington, VA I get around 2 Mbps on 3G and 8 on 4G. I agree that you had 30 days to see if you liked the service or not.

jordant2 said:
I can understand what the op is saying BUT, Sprint still has the best overall pricing even after the $10 for no 4g coverage so I can't really complain. My 3g speeds here in the metro Detroit area are not so great though. I get about 700kbps downloads. Not the best but not the worst. I tried T-Mobile and the 3g was about 1.0mbps but the bill was $40 more a month. Not at all worth the trade off for an extra 300kbps. I really only use the evo for streaming pandora and casual surfing so I really don't do a lot of downloading or wifi tethering. But Sprint is by far the best overall service for the price.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also in metro Detroit. I was with tmo for 9 years and Sprint's data coverage and speed is a huge improvement along with better pricing. Voice coverage is about the same. I've been with Sprint for about 6 months with no real complaints. Not to mention, yearly upgrades cuz I jumped on a shared plan and they're already premier members.
Sent from my HTC SUPERSONIC

I agree with others. You had 30 days, which is more than enough time, to test the network. No carrier has excellent coverage everywhere. They all have dead zones or bad signal areas. If you didn't like the service in your area, why didn't you return the phone within 30 days?
I have no problems, at all, with Sprint. And coming to Sprint from T-Mobile, I can most definitely say that Sprint has the better network.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.

MikeSkiX said:
Hold on let me get my violet
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol. What's a violet? ;-)
Sent from my HTC SUPERSONIC

Are you serious ???
Here is how I see it. Alot of it is service area.....for me...T-mobile was great with customer sevice but the MOBILE / Cell service in Naples Florida.....well its spotty and overall sucks ass indoors as does AT&T (I'm thinking this has to do with GSM). CDMA has just, overall, been better. Problem with the other CDMA (VERIZON) is their plans are a huge rip off and so is the company. Poor customer service and magic bills........just like AT&T. Never had this problem with Sprint so far. I know what I'm getting EACH AND EVERY MONTH. But, on to the lecture.
1. 30 freakin' days. We all knew it. Therefore you could have seen the poor service the first two weeks and bagged the phone and contract.
2. The plan with unlimited data and 750 min to land lines......unlimited to cell networks - 80 bucks (WITH TAX). This includes the 10 $ BS we all pay for (Including myself) to NOT have 4g which is most of us. No one beats that. End of story No mystery 120 bucks to AT&T. I've had em all. Sprint, by far has the best plans for the money. If service in your area sucks......you should have noticed it early on. THAT BEING SAID.................
Enough of my lecturing !!! Here are some things to try if you haven't already.
1. Update your radio - or - try different radios to help your 3g signal, they do make a huge difference.
2. Update your PRI to 1.77
3. Update your profile
4. Update your PRL
-JZ

jasonziter said:
Here is how I see it. Alot of it is service area.....for me...T-mobile was great with customer sevice but the MOBILE / Cell service in Naples Florida.....well its spotty and overall sucks ass indoors as does AT&T (I'm thinking this has to do with CDMA). GSM has just, overall been better. Problem with the other GSM (VERIZON) is their plans are a huge rip off and so is the company. Poor customer service and magic bills........just like AT&T. Never had this problem with Sprint so far. I know what I'm getting EACH AND EVERY MONTH. But, on to the lecture.
1. 30 freakin' days. We all knew it. Therefore you could have seen the poor service the first two weeks and bagged the phone and contract.
2. The plan with unlimited data and 750 min to land lines......unlimited to cell networks - 80 bucks (WITH TAX). This includes the 10 $ BS we all pay for (Including myself) to NOT have 4g which is most of us. No one beats that. End of story No mystery 120 bucks to AT&T. I've had em all. Sprint, by far has the best plans for the money. If service in your area sucks......you should have noticed it early on. THAT BEING SAID.................
Enough of my lecturing !!! Here are some things to try if you haven't already.
1. Update your radio - or - try different radios to help your 3g signal, they do make a huge difference.
2. Update your PRI to 1.77
3. Update your profile
4. Update your PRL
-JZ
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
umm, att is gsm, verizon and sprint are cdma

MikeSkiX said:
Hold on let me get my violet
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Trolling Fail! He meant to say violin.
Anyway how do you guys know he's not under someone else plan?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

gqstatus0685 said:
Trolling Fail! He meant to say violin.
Anyway how do you guys know he's not under someone's plan?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

ooopps..
NewZJ said:
umm, att is gsm, verizon and sprint are cdma
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oppps......lol....flip flop em. Sprint and Verizon = CDMA. AT&T / Tmobile = GSM

Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

BrianDigital said:
Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so true...

This has to be a joke / trolling
NewZJ said:
so true...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you guys trolling. Seriously. There is a 30 day trial period. No questions asked return period. Everyone who signs up with Sprint knows it.
You are either:
A. Trolling
B. Not reading prior posts......ie UBER LAZY (there is only a couple pages)
C. Retarded.
Lets hope its B.

You guys are silly !!!
BrianDigital said:
Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
YO. READ PRIOR POSTS. There's only one page prior to this.
Several of the posts talk about the:
30 DAY TRIAL PERIOD AT SPRINT.
No other company beats this trial period. No questions asked return.
If you are gonna post on XDA.....read at least a couple of pages prior to your post.
-JZ

jasonziter said:
YO. READ PRIOR POSTS. There's only one page prior to this.
Several of the posts talk about the:
30 DAY TRIAL PERIOD AT SPRINT.
No other company beats this trial period. No questions asked return.
If you are gonna post on XDA.....read at least a couple of pages prior to your post.
-JZ
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lighten up, Bud ... he was being facetious.

There's a 30 day trial period?

So the 10.00 fee is for uncapped data right? Lol

So sprint claim the 10.00 fee is for uncapped data right? So riddle me this why can't I upload a video to youtube more than 100mb? Wouldn't you say that's capped? I call bull**** on this fee. Well after talking to 3 sprint reps today the 3rd one finally told me the truth about that fee its for the 4g access that everyone is not able to get right now. Sprint need to realize that there are smart people in the world. Sprint cut the bull**** and take that bull**** fee off until the 4g is up everywhere.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

that fee is to uncap the "unlimited data" which is actually limited to 5gb/month on 3g. Has nothing to do with 4g.
It is Sprints thinking that with these super phones, that we will use more data.
Guess what, I agree with them.

hayabusa1300cc said:
that fee is to uncap the "unlimited data" which is actually limited to 5gb/month on 3g. Has nothing to do with 4g.
It is Sprints thinking that with these super phones, that we will use more data.
Guess what, I agree with them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hell no i dont agree with that ****..... i used avg 8-10g a month for years on wm phones (with no overage fees cause theres never been a cap ).. now with android im sitting around 3-4g.. i think they owe me 10 a month!!!!

Seriously? You called back 3 times to talk to Sprint until someone finally told you what you wanted to hear? To answer your question, the 10.00 is to keep the internet unlimited on and off of the 4g network. My guess is that you also use the phone as modem / tethering 'fixs' for free too then gripe about the bandwidth on a service you don't pay for. If you cant handle the 79.99 per month find another carrier with a better deal.
BTW it's the youtube app for android that has a 100mb limit, not the carrier.
www .google .com/support/forum/p/youtube/thread?tid=083f2e4eccdea4cf&hl=en

bigge4380 said:
Seriously? You called back 3 times to talk to Sprint until someone finally told you what you wanted to hear? To answer your question, the 10.00 is to keep the internet unlimited on and off of the 4g network. My guess is that you also use the phone as modem / tethering 'fixs' for free too then gripe about the bandwidth on a service you don't pay for. If you cant handle the 79.99 per month find another carrier with a better deal.
BTW it's the youtube app for android that has a 100mb limit, not the carrier.
www .google .com/support/forum/p/youtube/thread?tid=083f2e4eccdea4cf&hl=en
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OWNED....
Sent from my Epic 4G

@Hayabusa1300cc, for data cards and embedded devices (netbook/tablet) the cap is 5gb for 3g and unlimited for 4g.
For mobile phones it is unlimited on 3G and 4G with 300mb of roaming data, which is how you have guys like Lazydazed who routinely use more than 5gb from their moble phones.

This thread needs to be closed. We have enough threads open about the fee already.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

gotta love these idiots who post rants about matters they should of known about before the fact, not after.
buyer beware....

ghostrid3r said:
gotta love these idiots who post rants about matters they should of known about before the fact, not after.
buyer beware....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have to the love all the dumb ass people who never have anything worth saying in a forum but take the time to come on someone else topic and flame others over a post they don't like. If you don't care for a certain post you have the option of not commenting on it which makes you seem like less of an asshole in the long run.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

blackdragon79 said:
You have to the love all the dumb ass people who never have anything worth saying in a forum but take the time to come on someone else topic and flame others over a post they don't like. If you don't care for a certain post you have the option of not commenting on it which makes you seem like less of an asshole in the long run.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you not see the irony in what you just said?

muyoso said:
Do you not see the irony in what you just said?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can
idiot, dumbass, asshole, etc.. we're all riding the same yellow shortbus, just some of us don't realize they're licking the windows on the bus. Lol

ghostrid3r said:
I can
idiot, dumbass, asshole, etc.. we're all riding the same yellow shortbus, just some of us don't realize they're licking the windows on the bus. Lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't see myself licking the windows of a yellow shortbus but I do enjoy licking the big headlights on my girlfriends chest. Lol
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

bigge4380 said:
@Hayabusa1300cc, for data cards and embedded devices (netbook/tablet) the cap is 5gb for 3g and unlimited for 4g.
For mobile phones it is unlimited on 3G and 4G with 300mb of roaming data, which is how you have guys like Lazydazed who routinely use more than 5gb from their moble phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is 100% accurate, and yes I do work for Sprint. I want to clarify that non-roaming 3G is unlimited on all phones, not just when you have the $10 Premium Data charge. The $10 Premium Data is for the 4G phones only and is mandatory on 4G devices. If you're not going to be using 4G, why buy a 4G phone if the charge bothers you?

Sprint's "Unlimited" but limited... data plan

So as I spoke with a live chat representative I was focused on getting my answer,
does sprint throttle your data service. The answer is yes, in fact I was told that your
data service for the so called "unlimited" plan will actually STOP the data flow to your
phone rendering it usless except for calling. I'd like some more information on this
"unlimited" plan including if anyone has the fine print to point out that this is indefinatly
supposed to happen.
Thanks.

This is as dumb of a rumor as the one I posted about the update on 4/1. The rep you spoke to was just as stupid as the one I spoke to.

Well K0nane I do in fact have the problem on my phone as I was tethering while downloading a game off the internet and I encountered this. It was a test to see if there was throttling and as I can tell now my data is SLOW if not off.

Possibly it could of been the app failing.

False. Sprint didn't spend millions of dollars on their "truely unlimited" campaign only to be that stupid. If that was even remotely true it would've happened and Endgadget would be all over it talking Sprint down and selling iPhones I stream over 3G using Subsonic and can easily pull down 2GBs a week. I've never had any problems. The mobile broadband cards have a 5GB/month cap but that doesn't apply to phones.
^ Shift Faced

gamerfantic said:
Possibly it could of been the app failing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd suspect that or Sprint's network taking a dump.

jesusice said:
False. Sprint didn't spend millions of dollars on their "truely unlimited" campaign only to be that stupid. If that was even remotely true it would've happened and Endgadget would be all over it talking Sprint down and selling iPhones I stream over 3G using Subsonic and can easily pull down 2GBs a week. I've never had any problems. The mobile broadband cards have a 5GB/month cap but that doesn't apply to phones.
^ Shift Faced
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So there was a 5GB cap but that is for broadband cards, so the representative did not answer my question after I was asked to rephrase it 3 different times.

K0nane, while your roaming around the thread, do you possibly know when this PRL update is supposed to actually be released? And if it is released OTA will I get it OTA if I have your Frozen ROM+Kernal?
Much Appreciated.

gamerfantic said:
K0nane, while your roaming around the thread, do you possibly know when this PRL update is supposed to actually be released? And if it is released OTA will I get it OTA if I have your Frozen ROM+Kernal?
Much Appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you will get it. No, I don't know when it will be released.
EDIT: And it's not my kernel - it's Twilight Zone! Its thread is here and tanimn's Donate button is here.

Yeah, no. I have not found a limit yet. That is all I'm going to say as it seems the last thread I participated in that talked of the amount of data which people were downloading got closed.

gamerfantic said:
Well K0nane I do in fact have the problem on my phone as I was tethering while downloading a game off the internet and I encountered this. It was a test to see if there was throttling and as I can tell now my data is SLOW if not off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When you say "downloading a game", I hope you dont mean through Steam. Watch your monthly data usage, if you abuse it, they will be on to you. If you consistently abuse the unlimited part that is.

i tethered atleast 7 gigs and never had an issue
i mean... downloaded via 4g on to my phone LOL

Sprint doesn't limit data but it does have highly inconsistent speeds.

dchawk81 said:
Sprint doesn't limit data but it does have highly inconsistent speeds.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well when I first got my epic I kinda went crazy and started downloading torrents.. I probly hit like 40-50 gigs that month maybe more. I definitely noticed a BIG slowdown but only on 4g.. it was at the point where my 3g was faster for about a month before I dipped back below the threshhold, but only at home.. look up clears throttling practices. It has to do with how much data you download from specific towers within a certain period of time I think. But maybe it was sprints network taking a dump like he said.
cd's or tapes?

schnowdapowda said:
It has to do with how much data you download from specific towers within a certain period of time I think. But maybe it was sprints network taking a dump like he said.
cd's or tapes?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you may hit problems on 4G, because Clear is known for being shady - but it's not Sprint who's in charge of that. They're not responsible, and it doesn't happen on 3G. It's also not a set limit.

yeah everything has a limit though you know.. I'm sure if I could download fast enough on 3g they'd throttle that too! lol.. but seriously 3g is so slow around here that I could never hit over 20 gigs even if I tethered it to my media/torrent server the whole month and went without a phone.
cd's or tapes?

This is for mobile broadband and not for smart phones.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

There is no cap or throttle at all on the Sprint network. Retard customer service representatives have no idea what they are talking about half the time.

k0nane said:
Yes, you may hit problems on 4G, because Clear is known for being shady - but it's not Sprint who's in charge of that. They're not responsible, and it doesn't happen on 3G. It's also not a set limit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 on clear throttling (11mbps when I signed up, 2 months later consistently .25mbps, yes 256kbps) along with their very shady cancellation and pre-billing prepaid accounts, but I digress before I rant...
On the Sprint side though, I have used quite a bit, as my home internet for a while (my justification, I had spent money on clear FOR home internet, their side throttles, sprint's side doesn't but it still taxes Clears towers I paid for) and used somewhere between 30-40GB and other than time of day inconsistencies, I NEVER saw any noticable throttling on 3g or 4g. Incidentally I had used Sprint's 3g before the epic between home ISPs and used around 14-18gb and never saw any kind of slowdown on 3g or 4g. YMMV

sprint satisfaction lol

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...TlAO9A?docId=6a8ed447b0714bdd86f1633a594338dc
woot go sprint hahaha

It surprises me.
Honestly, been with Sprint for 9 years.
Never had an issue until right after they won the J.D. power associates award for customer service.
I just wonder how they rate it.

I always hear a lot of complaints about Sprint but I've never had major issues with them ..just small issues that all carriers have ....

DarkManX4lf said:
I always hear a lot of complaints about Sprint but I've never had major issues with them ..just small issues that all carriers have ....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed . . . found most CS Reps to do the best they can with what they have or bump it to someone else that can help . .

not only did I save over $100 / month moving to sprint from verizon, but I have a better phone, and have dropped less calls. I think a lot of the sprint hate is very unwarranted

Sprint is good for a flip phones that does not use data service and windows mobile 6.5 and older but with new smartphones, sprint sucks, they don't have the capacity to handle the demand of data.

dmora01 said:
Sprint is good for a flip phones that does not use data service and windows mobile 6.5 and older but with new smartphones, sprint sucks, they don't have the capacity to handle the demand of data.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Handles my demand lol
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

I agree that Sprint has data issues in many areas. After the Evo 3d is released it will be worse with the throngs of new subscribers and returning old ones. Hopefully Sprint can handle it and get the data up to par

Sprint is good for a flip phones that does not use data service and windows mobile 6.5 and older but with new smartphones, sprint sucks, they don't have the capacity to handle the demand of data.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really? Cause I was watching episodes of The State on Netflix while riding in the passenger seat, going down the highway. Not one hiccup till we got WAY out in the country. If it is able to stream full-length television shows without buffering out like crazy, it can't be all that bad. Maybe it is your particular area, man. I know speeds went to crap for a few months, but lately it has been much better all over my area.

I get 300 kb/s usually on Sprint at the same time I get 700 kb/s on AT&T.
Both are so low I don't even care anymore.

Hazelfoot said:
I get 300 kb/s usually on Sprint at the same time I get 700 kb/s on AT&T.
Both are so low I don't even care anymore.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL, No 4G in St. Louis?
I haven't seen speeds that slow in awhile.
Me? Yeah I can say I'm satisfied, Great phones, great plans & price. And my data speed... It Just gets faster:

Noiro said:
LOL, No 4G in St. Louis?
I haven't seen speeds that slow in awhile.
Me? Yeah I can say I'm satisfied, Great phones, great plans & price. And my data speed... It Just gets faster:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In my best cases, I have never seen anything close to that. I think once or twice I eclipsed 10kbps on 4g a while ago. Now I get 2-6 on 4G and about dialup usually on 3G. In the Minneapolis metro area.

I've been getting 15 mps down on 4g but I use speak easy thoe speedtest.net site is mest up over here
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

Noiro said:
LOL, No 4G in St. Louis?
I haven't seen speeds that slow in awhile.
Me? Yeah I can say I'm satisfied, Great phones, great plans & price. And my data speed... It Just gets faster:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
where in Philly is this???? I see nothing close to that on 4G. Best I ever got was 3.5 mbs down

alaman68 said:
where in Philly is this???? I see nothing close to that on 4G. Best I ever got was 3.5 mbs down
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL I'm in Aston, PA. About 40 minutes south of Philly.

Noiro said:
LOL, No 4G in St. Louis?
I haven't seen speeds that slow in awhile.
Me? Yeah I can say I'm satisfied, Great phones, great plans & price. And my data speed... It Just gets faster:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dang that's fast for sprint 4g. Over here in SD in the sdsu college only place to get 4g I get about 10m and 1.2 down. But we don't have 4g completely around SD.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

I have never had a problem with Sprint either. Sure, some reps aren't as good as others...but you will see that on all carriers. I have had my EVO replaced a few times and it's been very easy and painless. I don't plan on switching carriers any time soon.

alaman68 said:
not only did I save over $100 / month moving to sprint from verizon, but I have a better phone, and have dropped less calls. I think a lot of the sprint hate is very unwarranted
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There always will be haters.

Sprint has been pretty good with me and the costumer service and voice service is pretty good, my complaint is the data service was very good in my area 6 months ago but now is crappy, I have good coverage full bars most of my town but the data is way too slow and I don't have 4G so the $10 premium for the data is bs..... they don't want to fix it and now with the nexus s and the evo 3D is going to get worst.
Sent from my EVO Cannibal! !!

winderg said:
There always will be haters.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Truf
...

Is sprint purposely slow?

After watching this video I'm starting to wonder if sprint is intentionally slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium

I've been less than a mile from a tower and have my connection suck. In a open air environment to.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium

I can't watch that video rgt now cuz I'm on VZW 1x lolol
What is it?
And sprint has been slow on 3g since the evo came out
Before that, sprint was worthy of its name
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App

A_Flying_Fox said:
I can't watch that video rgt now cuz I'm on VZW 1x lolol
What is it?
And sprint has been slow on 3g since the evo came out
Before that, sprint was worthy of its name
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"Sprint - to run at full speed"
How ironic lol
Sent from my SPH-D700

If verizon wasn't so damn expensive I would go there. I think sprint good prices and plan is the reason they won't up the speed of there network. Its not like sprint don't have the technology to do so.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium

My speeds depend on which tower I'm connected to. The one on the main road has good signal but crappy speeds, and the tower at work is 1-2 bars but steady 2 mbps. I also work in the boonies and there are probably only 5 people connected to it.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium

blackdragon79 said:
After watching this video I'm starting to wonder if sprint is intentionally slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could argue that all carriers are slow. It depends on the tower, prl, and etc, as well as how much you tweak your phone's radio-dependent files, but ruling out those factors, it truly does matter on your data plan. Most, if not all carriers cap your speeds when you're on unlimited plans, those who are on data limits are the ones who truly get no cap, although it doesn't matter because they have a limit, so its as if they're capped anyway.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Shinydude100 said:
You could argue that all carriers are slow. It depends on the tower, prl, and etc, as well as how much you tweak your phone's radio-dependent files, but ruling out those factors, it truly does matter on your data plan. Most, if not all carriers cap your speeds when you're on unlimited plans, those who are on data limits are the ones who truly get no cap, although it doesn't matter because they have a limit, so its as if they're capped anyway.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sprint claims they don't cap under any circumstances. I think the problem is that Sprint simply doesn't know how to maintain their network well enough to keep up with the demand.
I've whined about this endlessly but I'll give a little example of what I'm talking about. My wife and I drove back to our apartment in the city from upstate NY this morning. We had Spotify going the entire time and at no point did we have any skips or gaps in songs during playback. As soon as we got in our neighborhood, however, the song we were listening to cut began getting choppy before eventually cutting out completely. In the time it took us to find a parking spot - about 5 or so minutes - the song cut out for about 4:50 before coming back with a choppy signal. Sprint has told me a few dozen times that there's a problem with a tower in this neighborhood that somehow never gets fixed. Let's face it, if Sprint can't get their network working reliably in NYC, what does that say about their competence?

The problem is Sprint hasn't invested in their network or backhaul since they came out with data plans back in 2003-2004.

jnadke said:
The problem is Sprint hasn't invested in their network or backhaul since they came out with data plans back in 2003-2004.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This exactly.
Now they are, unfortunately for us it's going to take a little to see the results.
The mere insinuation that Sprint would be slow [in some areas as slow at 50k] on purpose is...well... I'll be nice and say it isn't smart.

I think sprint is playing smart by saying unlimited data for ad but actually they can only serve very slow speeds everybody.
this in turn make me use less data because I rely on my wifi. A win win situation for the sprint but not for customers.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

mtwow789 said:
I think sprint is playing smart by saying unlimited data for ad but actually they can only serve very slow speeds everybody.
this in turn make me use less data because I rely on my wifi. A win win situation for the sprint but not for customers.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not sure if this is there intention per se but there's certainly some truth to it. I've got friends who have AT&T iPhones and they routinely go over 5 gigs of data in a month with streaming and whatnot. I've never cracked 600 megs with my Epic because the data speeds are too slow - why would I try to download several gigabytes of data when my downstream tops out a .30 Mbps? when I can get on 4G it's great but it usually knocks me off intermittently until I just give up and switch back to 3G.

I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.

mtwow789 said:
I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I saw ~20 people in the Sprint store this weekend just for the Iphone.

So i guess it not just my crapy little town

If they tried to give full speed to everyone, we would all be taxing the bandwidth, creating a data traffic jam - no data for anyone. (this isn't necessarily an accurate description, I can't claim to know all - but the concept is sound)
The bandwidth is inherently shared, so they have to make sure that everyone gets enough to consider it more than useless.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited bandwidth... Anyone remember when cable internet first came out? It was fast as hell, until prices came down and a few of my neighbors got on board
mtwow789 said:
I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good idea - sue them for all they're worth. Then they go bankrupt, and we're all left with Verizon, AT&T or T mobile (or crappy prepaid, which typically piggy backs on the major carrier's networks...)
Sent from my CyanogenMODed Epic
Sent from my CyanogenMODed Epic

sigh.. is there no other alternatives then Sprint?
I know Sprint is cheap, but this slowness is too much.
What's the point of unlimited data when I just rely on my wifi.
In this rate, I can take 200mb option from ATT. Because I cant use that much in sprint.

mtwow789 said:
sigh.. is there no other alternatives then Sprint?
I know Sprint is cheap, but this slowness is too much.
What's the point of unlimited data when I just rely on my wifi.
In this rate, I can take 200mb option from ATT. Because I cant use that much in sprint.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Get a T-Mobile vibrant then unlock it and put in an att sim card. Tell att you want the $15 unlimited data plan for quick messaging phones and give them your imei. If they ask what your phone is tell them it's just an old samsung tmobile phone and mention nothing about android or the real name of the phone, Enjoy.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk

styles420 said:
If they tried to give full speed to everyone, we would all be taxing the bandwidth, creating a data traffic jam - no data for anyone. (this isn't necessarily an accurate description, I can't claim to know all - but the concept is sound)
The bandwidth is inherently shared, so they have to make sure that everyone gets enough to consider it more than useless.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited bandwidth... Anyone remember when cable internet first came out? It was fast as hell, until prices came down and a few of my neighbors got on board
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sure everything you are saying is true. The problem is that Sprint claims they don't limit bandwidth or throttle at all. And it's the line of bulls--t from Sprint that angers me more than their pathetically slow service. That they can't just come forward and speak the truth rather than trying to lure customers in with false promises is a deceptive business practice.

It should be class action for all not just iPhone ppl on sprint.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App