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Okay, so I've been doing some thinking... is Sprint just a bunch of assholes or what? They advertise the EVO as "The first 4G phone", but "plays nicely with 3G as well"... I think that's a load of **** fir the most part. For people like me, where when I looked on the Sprint coverage map for their 3G showed the best quality which is a load of crap.... my 3G speeds are terrible, luckily I have WiFi...but I'm not always home, so therefore it leaves me no choice but to use the horrible 3G that is mine. Voice/phone quality is amazing where I am, but really....if I can't even have decent speeds for 3G it's apparent that 4G may not even come to where I'm at.. it's just depressing, I feel like I'm paying for service that isn't entirely there, some of you may know what I mean...but yeah.. sucky part is that I can't cancel and go with someone else. I've had tmobile for years, never really had a problem with them, the evo was just so appealing...
/endrant
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You had 30 days to decide to keep your phone, you did. Nobody wants to hear you cry about a poor decision you made.
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Hold on let me get my violin
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Get over it u had 30 days u kept the phone so stop ur *****ing
from my phone duh

Interesting.. What are these horrible speeds? I live in the 4g dead zone and average about 1.2mb/s not super fast but it works. Also, Sprint seems to treat people good when you have a legitimate issue and you let them know nicely. Hell, years ago they gave me 25% off my bill when my mogul kept breaking over and over... I used the crap out of it, was wearing out keyboards in weeks. Try to call them, there's nothing we can do for you here.

Not sure where you live but in Arlington, VA I get around 2 Mbps on 3G and 8 on 4G. I agree that you had 30 days to see if you liked the service or not.

jordant2 said:
I can understand what the op is saying BUT, Sprint still has the best overall pricing even after the $10 for no 4g coverage so I can't really complain. My 3g speeds here in the metro Detroit area are not so great though. I get about 700kbps downloads. Not the best but not the worst. I tried T-Mobile and the 3g was about 1.0mbps but the bill was $40 more a month. Not at all worth the trade off for an extra 300kbps. I really only use the evo for streaming pandora and casual surfing so I really don't do a lot of downloading or wifi tethering. But Sprint is by far the best overall service for the price.
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Also in metro Detroit. I was with tmo for 9 years and Sprint's data coverage and speed is a huge improvement along with better pricing. Voice coverage is about the same. I've been with Sprint for about 6 months with no real complaints. Not to mention, yearly upgrades cuz I jumped on a shared plan and they're already premier members.
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I agree with others. You had 30 days, which is more than enough time, to test the network. No carrier has excellent coverage everywhere. They all have dead zones or bad signal areas. If you didn't like the service in your area, why didn't you return the phone within 30 days?
I have no problems, at all, with Sprint. And coming to Sprint from T-Mobile, I can most definitely say that Sprint has the better network.
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MikeSkiX said:
Hold on let me get my violet
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Lol. What's a violet? ;-)
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Are you serious ???
Here is how I see it. Alot of it is service area.....for me...T-mobile was great with customer sevice but the MOBILE / Cell service in Naples Florida.....well its spotty and overall sucks ass indoors as does AT&T (I'm thinking this has to do with GSM). CDMA has just, overall, been better. Problem with the other CDMA (VERIZON) is their plans are a huge rip off and so is the company. Poor customer service and magic bills........just like AT&T. Never had this problem with Sprint so far. I know what I'm getting EACH AND EVERY MONTH. But, on to the lecture.
1. 30 freakin' days. We all knew it. Therefore you could have seen the poor service the first two weeks and bagged the phone and contract.
2. The plan with unlimited data and 750 min to land lines......unlimited to cell networks - 80 bucks (WITH TAX). This includes the 10 $ BS we all pay for (Including myself) to NOT have 4g which is most of us. No one beats that. End of story No mystery 120 bucks to AT&T. I've had em all. Sprint, by far has the best plans for the money. If service in your area sucks......you should have noticed it early on. THAT BEING SAID.................
Enough of my lecturing !!! Here are some things to try if you haven't already.
1. Update your radio - or - try different radios to help your 3g signal, they do make a huge difference.
2. Update your PRI to 1.77
3. Update your profile
4. Update your PRL
-JZ

jasonziter said:
Here is how I see it. Alot of it is service area.....for me...T-mobile was great with customer sevice but the MOBILE / Cell service in Naples Florida.....well its spotty and overall sucks ass indoors as does AT&T (I'm thinking this has to do with CDMA). GSM has just, overall been better. Problem with the other GSM (VERIZON) is their plans are a huge rip off and so is the company. Poor customer service and magic bills........just like AT&T. Never had this problem with Sprint so far. I know what I'm getting EACH AND EVERY MONTH. But, on to the lecture.
1. 30 freakin' days. We all knew it. Therefore you could have seen the poor service the first two weeks and bagged the phone and contract.
2. The plan with unlimited data and 750 min to land lines......unlimited to cell networks - 80 bucks (WITH TAX). This includes the 10 $ BS we all pay for (Including myself) to NOT have 4g which is most of us. No one beats that. End of story No mystery 120 bucks to AT&T. I've had em all. Sprint, by far has the best plans for the money. If service in your area sucks......you should have noticed it early on. THAT BEING SAID.................
Enough of my lecturing !!! Here are some things to try if you haven't already.
1. Update your radio - or - try different radios to help your 3g signal, they do make a huge difference.
2. Update your PRI to 1.77
3. Update your profile
4. Update your PRL
-JZ
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umm, att is gsm, verizon and sprint are cdma

MikeSkiX said:
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Trolling Fail! He meant to say violin.
Anyway how do you guys know he's not under someone else plan?
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gqstatus0685 said:
Trolling Fail! He meant to say violin.
Anyway how do you guys know he's not under someone's plan?
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ooopps..
NewZJ said:
umm, att is gsm, verizon and sprint are cdma
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Oppps......lol....flip flop em. Sprint and Verizon = CDMA. AT&T / Tmobile = GSM

Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
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BrianDigital said:
Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
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so true...

This has to be a joke / trolling
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so true...
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Are you guys trolling. Seriously. There is a 30 day trial period. No questions asked return period. Everyone who signs up with Sprint knows it.
You are either:
A. Trolling
B. Not reading prior posts......ie UBER LAZY (there is only a couple pages)
C. Retarded.
Lets hope its B.

You guys are silly !!!
BrianDigital said:
Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
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YO. READ PRIOR POSTS. There's only one page prior to this.
Several of the posts talk about the:
30 DAY TRIAL PERIOD AT SPRINT.
No other company beats this trial period. No questions asked return.
If you are gonna post on XDA.....read at least a couple of pages prior to your post.
-JZ

jasonziter said:
YO. READ PRIOR POSTS. There's only one page prior to this.
Several of the posts talk about the:
30 DAY TRIAL PERIOD AT SPRINT.
No other company beats this trial period. No questions asked return.
If you are gonna post on XDA.....read at least a couple of pages prior to your post.
-JZ
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Lighten up, Bud ... he was being facetious.

There's a 30 day trial period?

How Does Sprint Roll Out 4G?

How does Sprint go about choosing cities for 4G? Also, when will most smaller "cities" finally have 4G? A year from now? Sooner, later? Does Sprint have any publication outlining their plans? I live Columbia, SC, and right now speeds are slllowwww on 3G. So when is YOUR city getting 4G? We've all been payin for it!

good luck finding that information out. I tried to contact sprint about those exact things and got the same bs over and over and over and over (yes four times )

Slowly
I live in Greenville and someone that works for Clearwire said they have one tower in the area but that's it so far. I'm not getting my hopes up for a full rollout any time soon and after getting to use 4G recently, I don't really care anymore either. T-Mobile's 3G is faster than what I've personally seen from Sprint's 4G, my wife and I are switching this summer when our ETF drops to $50/line.

I know. They pick a random city and provide customers with very spotty coverage that barely penetrates walls

You need to carry around a ghost buster battery pack to fully utilize 4G constantly any how. The only time I use 4G is when I'm plugged into a power source or to watch one video if needed. Almost useless pretty much, I'm in a 4G area and I'm using a rom without 4G and I'm just fine.

datajosh said:
Slowly
I live in Greenville and someone that works for Clearwire said they have one tower in the area but that's it so far. I'm not getting my hopes up for a full rollout any time soon and after getting to use 4G recently, I don't really care anymore either. T-Mobile's 3G is faster than what I've personally seen from Sprint's 4G, my wife and I are switching this summer when our ETF drops to $50/line.
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you know...if you didnt have to toggle the radio, it would be alot better. i agree with you tmobile is kicking some ass and taking names...however our saving grace for me and us is the anymobile anytime stuff. If tmob got that going id etf it...I like sprint and my 22% discount but i could pay the same on tmobile for the 3 lines I have (since I dont have to pay a 10.00 fee per line) and I could get liek the dell streak or some other snazzy gsm phone. Really cdma I personally think is a dying technology.

man, im starting to like this thread already
I think they all go out and get drunk, then throw darts at a map. Thats why they just rolled out 4g in Jamaica and Taiwan

elegantai said:
man, im starting to like this thread already
I think they all go out and get drunk, then throw darts at a map. Thats why they just rolled out 4g in Jamaica and Taiwan
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Is this Sprint Picking 4G
Its gotta be....The DART is Yellow LOL
Well now at least when im sitting at sandals in jamaica, I can check xda via 4g, and look up drinks I want quicker alowing me to consume more!

zikronix said:
Is this Sprint Picking 4G
Its gotta be....The DART is Yellow LOL
Well now at least when im sitting at sandals in jamaica, I can check xda via 4g, and look up drinks I want quicker alowing me to consume more!
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OMG lol!!! that was perfect

I wish I knew too. We just got 1 tower here in Appleton, Wisconsin. I'm not sure why we get these faster then bigger cities? Oh well, guess we will need to get an insider to leak the info.
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They are doing it based on population size. I've also heard that there is a minimum population size to even be considered for 4g.
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Geauxt said:
They are doing it based on population size. I've also heard that there is a minimum population size to even be considered for 4g.
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There must be a maximum too, we're still waiting here in San Diego... the nation's 7th largest city

zikronix said:
Is this Sprint Picking 4G
Its gotta be....The DART is Yellow LOL
Well now at least when im sitting at sandals in jamaica, I can check xda via 4g, and look up drinks I want quicker alowing me to consume more!
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^^Quite literally thee funniest commercial on tv right now!!!
HA!

Geauxt said:
They are doing it based on population size. I've also heard that there is a minimum population size to even be considered for 4g.
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I highly doubt this is the case. There are many examples where their roll out does not follow suit

I have to agree with elegantai, that seems like the most likely answer. I'm definitely not complaining though, they just turned it on here within the last week.

I've been wondering how they decide their rollouts. I have a feeling that the commercial is spot on
But anyway, I can't wait to try some day to day use here at KU. Been to KC a couple times and was blown away by how fast it was. 4G is supposed be activated here in a month or two, so stoked.
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Phillysphinest1 said:
^^Quite literally thee funniest commercial on tv right now!!!
HA!
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Yea I saw it a few weeks back and i thought it was awesome...

Afraid to stay with Sprint and get the EVO 3D.

Wow i really do want this phone badly. But i'm just so afraid of sprints 3g coverage. I can barely watch a you tube video now. Anything that involves data sucks. What good is a phone if the coverage is horrable. Plus now they are really going to get hammered with to many people on the network for them to handle. Anyone else afraid of this?

I feel the same way. I live in phoenix and their 3g here (at least around my job and home) sucks balls. My friends edge tmobile phone gets better speeds.

No cause my sprints coverage has been great
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Sprint in Sacramento is kick-ass. I'm not worried.

drmacinyasha said:
Sprint in Sacramento is kick-ass. I'm not worried.
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+1 for sactown always have full bars

I posted this in another thread but it applies here too. I get crappy 3G in my area and no 4G. They are so focused on bringing 3D phones but we can't even upload/stream regular vids to YouTube with their ****ty network. Why not roll out 4G in more cities and beef it up first? T-mobile is turning up the heat with 40mb in a few cities. This proves that sprint could turn it up as well if they wanted to.
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mob...mpaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)
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I do wish that the new Evo did have the LTE radio, as rumored, but I get 5Mbps in my apartment on 4G, so I'm not going to complain too much. And I have no issues with my 3G in this area, either.

The thing of it is guys, is what are our options? AT&T-Mobile or Verizon. Both with data caps, sub-par customer service(at least from my experience with the GF's iphone) and high rates. There's really no other choice.
That being said, sprint absolutely needs to step up their network. My evo will never connect to 4G. i can be sitting in downtown Dallas, TX, right in the middle of the alleged 4G coverage area and never connect. Its worthless.

I've never had an issue with 3G. Wimax is another thing. It's mostly good but I hardly use it for anything. I'm almost always in Wifi when I want to download a big file anyway. Pretty sure they are going to eventually add LTE support to their towers since Wimax is ok for cheaply blanketing an area in Wifi-like coverage but isn't so great in big buildings and they are dependent on Clearwire's oversubscribed network.
For all the talk of "why are they worrying about 3D phones and stuff like that", they need to stay up on the flashy new handsets because that is what gets them subscribers. This is their chance to really make or break their company with the playing field narrowing soon. AT&T proved with the iPhone that folks will put up with all kinds of crap for a must-have handset so they need to keep putting out exclusives that stand out in the market in order to stay attractive to customers.
Moving to another company would cost me a lot more per month and add a data cap so I am not going anywhere soon. I used to have T-Mobile to fall back on if Sprint ever pissed me off but with them being bought up, it's time to double down on Sprint.

Since when does VZW have a data cap? And I dont mean some data cap that "may" come at some point down the road. At this point the data is still unlimited.

I live in KC, which is basically saying the Sprint HQ (overland park is a division of KC) and the service here could def be better. 3g is no too bad, unless you go to Overland Park. Which is funny, because your IN the campus, and service blows. 4g... you pretty much have to be downtown to really make it "better" than 3g. I too find it odd that t-mo can ramp up 3g speeds to topple our 4g. Co worker has tmo and he dominates me in d/l speed. Somehow for him that equates to his mytouch slide 4g being better than my evo, but then again he does have a wicked self idolize-ing issue.

SilverStone641 said:
The thing of it is guys, is what are our options? AT&T-Mobile or Verizon. Both with data caps, sub-par customer service(at least from my experience with the GF's iphone) and high rates. There's really no other choice.
That being said, sprint absolutely needs to step up their network. My evo will never connect to 4G. i can be sitting in downtown Dallas, TX, right in the middle of the alleged 4G coverage area and never connect. Its worthless.
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what part of downtown? i can sit over by the opera house and get 4g.

Ok guys, relax. It's one of two things if you are getting slow 3g speeds.
First, Sprint is actually growing again. In some areas it's growing so much that the existing network is at capacity. It's being addressed.
Or, it's a bug with some phones on 3.70 or 3.70 based ROMs. It's being addressed in the next update (not sure if it's going to be gingerbread or not)

clamknuckle said:
Ok guys, relax. It's one of two things if you are getting slow 3g speeds.
First, Sprint is actually growing again. In some areas it's growing so much that the existing network is at capacity. It's being addressed.
Or, it's a bug with some phones on 3.70 or 3.70 based ROMs. It's being addressed in the next update (not sure if it's going to be gingerbread or not)
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Not disagreeing at all with your points, but the max capacity is what the op is saying he's/she's afraid of. I've seen extremely slow coverage expansion of 4g in KC, while other carries have been going hard at it. It's doubtful they are expanding 3g much anymore since 4g is the "new baby." I like Sprint don't get me wrong, but if the op is more concerned with coverage, and the fact that we face $10 a month for 4g coverage, he may very well be better off with another carrier.

You all act like Sprint could revamp their entire network overnight if they wanted. I know for fact they are working on it, and I see signs of improvement all the time. I can get 2Mb downloads now on 3g in several locations in my city where 2-3 months ago I was lucky to get 200k. Maybe they could make people happier faster in the short term by taking shortcuts, but it looks like they're doing it right. So have patience or gtfo.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19

xviiivx said:
You all act like Sprint could revamp their entire network overnight if they wanted. I know for fact they are working on it, and I see signs of improvement all the time. I can get 2Mb downloads now on 3g in several locations in my city where 2-3 months ago I was lucky to get 200k. Maybe they could make people happier faster in the short term by taking shortcuts, but it looks like they're doing it right. So have patience or gtfo.
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Well if it's ok in your city then that should be ok for everyone worldwide then. Try growing up before posting please.

brownhornet said:
Since when does VZW have a data cap? And I dont mean some data cap that "may" come at some point down the road. At this point the data is still unlimited.
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lol there unlimited, but we can and have canceled customers for using more then 5 gb a month without a tethering plan unlimited?

aimbdd said:
lol there unlimited, but we can and have canceled customers for using more then 5 gb a month without a tethering plan unlimited?
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Supposedly Sprint also has a "cap." Never seen it myself, but that "rumor" has gone around a bit.

I feel the exact same way. My 3g is terrible, I get anywhere from 200-700 MAX DOWN and about 400 UP. No 4g at all. :/
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jlechner said:
Well if it's ok in your city then that should be ok for everyone worldwide then. Try growing up before posting please.
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Try growing up?? WTF??? Did you not click on the link to see that I was trying to provide some hope for people that are not in a good data area?
I did not even say it was ok in my city... I said there are signs of improvement and there are places that are great. I was just trying to help people out who think the network sux everywhere and Sprint is not doing anything about it anywhere... because that is wrong. They are working on it diligently.
Perhaps my "have patience or gtfo" comment was a little rude, but that sums up the situation here. The network sux. It's getting better. If you can't wait for the improvements, complaining on xda is not going to do anything for you.

Urgh Sprint...

I was on Verizon for years and my wife talked me into a Sprint family plan. Good rates, nice phones...though sure, EVO looks tight, nice specs and is a fantastic phone. My wife purchased an epic 4G. Both are rooted and running very nice programs. My problem is the data is 100% garbage compared to Verizon in every way. I am located in Warner Robins, GA and if it wasn't for WiFi i would be lost. My friend purchased a Thunderbolt I rooted for him and in the same area side by side he was getting 2.5mb dl speed and I was barely at 800kb. What gives? Do they not make enough to give good coverage? I avg 300kb at best. Some place are better but never above 1.3mb! Why can a company sell such appealing phones and yet have such terrible data? Anyone else feel this way? I get cell service and can send texts but working at Robins afb and the abysmal signal is really making me want to jump ship. Verizon doesn't have the phones I want though. I like HTC. I have for many years. HTC, you make a kick ass product, just wish you would start using a kick ass carrier or Sprint start actually putting money into their Damn network and bang some towers out around here. Grrrr

stkiswr said:
I was on Verizon for years and my wife talked me into a Sprint family plan. Good rates, nice phones...though sure, EVO looks tight, nice specs and is a fantastic phone. My wife purchased an epic 4G. Both are rooted and running very nice programs. My problem is the data is 100% garbage compared to Verizon in every way. I am located in Warner Robins, GA and if it wasn't for WiFi i would be lost. My friend purchased a Thunderbolt I rooted for him and in the same area side by side he was getting 2.5mb dl speed and I was barely at 800kb. What gives? Do they not make enough to give good coverage? I avg 300kb at best. Some place are better but never above 1.3mb! Why can a company sell such appealing phones and yet have such terrible data? Anyone else feel this way? I get cell service and can send texts but working at Robins afb and the abysmal signal is really making me want to jump ship. Verizon doesn't have the phones I want though. I like HTC. I have for many years. HTC, you make a kick ass product, just wish you would start using a kick ass carrier or Sprint start actually putting money into their Damn network and bang some towers out around here. Grrrr
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Lol yeah I'm in Atl(gwinnett county) and I get ok speeds. Even 4g at times but I usually stick to my wifi when available to save battery. I'd say chock it up to being in the sticks out in Warner robins lol jk. Data speeds arnt the greatest but its worth having the phone due massive amounts of dev support. The thunderbolt is a great phone though. Pretty much a cousin of the evo execpt they get bent over and raw dogged for pricing compared to sprint. Just my opinion though

Verizon is absurdly overpriced...but they deliver the goods! Guess that's what u get for cheaper service, just that! Cheaper service. If they would drop better data coverage I could handler it better

I wish I could 300... most of the time it is around 50. Been like this for a year in this area.

stkiswr said:
Verizon is absurdly overpriced...but they deliver the goods! Guess that's what u get for cheaper service, just that! Cheaper service. If they would drop better data coverage I could handler it better
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Not the case with cheaper service, Thats what you get for not living in a major city?
Los Angeles is nicely blanketed with wimax - So we are paying less than verizon customers here and getting around 8mb down on 4G and average 700k on 3G, good enough for me

Sprint gives me around 100-400kbps down depending on the time of day.

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Not the case with cheaper service, Thats what you get for not living in a major city?
Los Angeles is nicely blanketed with wimax - So we are paying less than verizon customers here and getting around 8mb down on 4G and average 700k on 3G, good enough for me
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O come on LA really there's only a few Citys (12~20)on Earth that compare to LA.
In WI 3G sucks ass 100k most of the time. To me its like having a flashback to the netzero & free aol days on a 56k modem lol. I left sprint years ago because they sucked in WI and then I was in Ohio with "No Bar" went to Verizon for 6 years. Then last fall I wanted an Epic so I moved back to Sprint (back in WI) and I found out that they did not do one single thing to upgrade there network that an end user would see as to data speeds. Booooooooooooooooo! Sprint :-(
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Yeah i know they have great service....for only a few damn places! Lol feel like a t mobile customer

I never get over 200k 50-70% of the time.

Yeah i def hear ya.... Fricken speeds suck here in Green Bay. Idk what it is, but for the last week I've only been getting 500kb download speed. Before that i could hit like 1.2 mb... I've been to lazy to call and ***** and they would just have me do everything i have done already.... Speed fix and pri update etc... Def not worth the price in switching for me tho
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O come on LA really there's only a few Citys (12~20)on Earth that compare to LA.
In WI 3G sucks ass 100k most of the time. To me its like having a flashback to the netzero & free aol days on a 56k modem lol. I left sprint years ago because they sucked in WI and then I was in Ohio with "No Bar" went to Verizon for 6 years. Then last fall I wanted an Epic so I moved back to Sprint (back in WI) and I found out that they did not do one single thing to upgrade there network that an end user would see as to data speeds. Booooooooooooooooo! Sprint :-(
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They are working on it. Hopefully we see the results sooner rather then later.

Sprint has no cash to improve this stuff really, LTE tests, clearwire hell... yeah it's going to be bumpy for a while.

stkiswr said:
I was on Verizon for years and my wife talked me into a Sprint family plan. Good rates, nice phones...though sure, EVO looks tight, nice specs and is a fantastic phone. My wife purchased an epic 4G. Both are rooted and running very nice programs. My problem is the data is 100% garbage compared to Verizon in every way. I am located in Warner Robins, GA and if it wasn't for WiFi i would be lost. My friend purchased a Thunderbolt I rooted for him and in the same area side by side he was getting 2.5mb dl speed and I was barely at 800kb. What gives? Do they not make enough to give good coverage? I avg 300kb at best. Some place are better but never above 1.3mb! Why can a company sell such appealing phones and yet have such terrible data? Anyone else feel this way? I get cell service and can send texts but working at Robins afb and the abysmal signal is really making me want to jump ship. Verizon doesn't have the phones I want though. I like HTC. I have for many years. HTC, you make a kick ass product, just wish you would start using a kick ass carrier or Sprint start actually putting money into their Damn network and bang some towers out around here. Grrrr
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i feel you man. i'm in the Saint Louis, MO area and i'm lucky if i get 200k down. and just like you, i like HTC, so i think as soon as HTC puts out a kick a$$ phone for Verizon, i jumping ship.

I just don't get why they're so broke. It's like there's a bunch of 16 yr olds blowing all the money on pot and alcohol running the company.
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MicrosoftBug said:
I just don't get why they're so broke. It's like there's a bunch of 16 yr olds blowing all the money on pot and alcohol running the company.
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i know right
i realize that they aren't as big as Verizon or ATT, but come on... their 3g speed is just pathetic. and it's only going to get worse if they just keep adding better and better phones to their network, which is already on it's knees.

you guys are funny i live in the sticks with 2-3 bars tops 3g but i avg 1-1.4mbps dl and .6 or better up..and id take slower speeds over gettin assraped for NONunlimited data. i've dealt with the big v when they bought alltel and totally ****ed service for me, i lost calls in record numbers, support went to ****. we have verizon home wifi yea im gonna personally ram that up someones ass they refuse to give us faster service tho the next town literally 4 houses down gets their top package 20 or better mbps we get 3.....**** VERIZON ADOLF RUN STUPID ASSES THEM AN ATT OUTTA BUTTFUCK THEIR WAY OFF THE PLANET

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**** VERIZON ADOLF RUN STUPID ASSES THEM AN ATT OUTTA BUTTFUCK THEIR WAY OFF THE PLANET
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YEAH!!! ... wait, uhhhh.... what?

samsunghater said:
you guys are funny i live in the sticks with 2-3 bars tops 3g but i avg 1-1.4mbps dl and .6 or better up..and id take slower speeds over gettin assraped for NONunlimited data. i've dealt with the big v when they bought alltel and totally ****ed service for me, i lost calls in record numbers, support went to ****. we have verizon home wifi yea im gonna personally ram that up someones ass they refuse to give us faster service tho the next town literally 4 houses down gets their top package 20 or better mbps we get 3.....**** VERIZON ADOLF RUN STUPID ASSES THEM AN ATT OUTTA BUTTFUCK THEIR WAY OFF THE PLANET
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Do we have anybody in the house that speaks ghetto? We could use a translation here.
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MicrosoftBug said:
Do we have anybody in the house that speaks ghetto? We could use a translation here.
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He lives in the sticks -.it.may be redneck
Evo HW 003
MIUI 1.6.17

I live by Appleton wi and my speeds aren't horrible. Anything over 50 k/sec is fine by me.
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anyone seen any network improvements?

All I heard was how sprints network is getting fast and blah blah blah but has anyone seen speeds that are actually faster? Mid Ga doesn't seem any better. I looked at the sight and see upgrades being done but I can't tell at all. Am I crazy or am I getting ransacked

sprint.com/network
Put in your zipcode to see recent and planned local upgrades.
Is that the site you've used?
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I've been on sprint for like 15 years... Sprint sucks! All i here is they are getting better, more towers bla bla bla.. I would rather be data throttled than have no signal... I have to June i believe than i jump ship... Sorry I'm not trolling i just felt my blood pressure rise...
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troyolson92 said:
I've been on sprint for like 15 years... Sprint sucks! All i here is they are getting better, more towers bla bla bla.. I would rather be data throttled than have no signal... I have to June i believe than i jump ship... Sorry I'm not trolling i just felt my blood pressure rise...
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Hey man we all have opinions and freedom to do whatever we want ...

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sprint.com/network
Put in your zipcode to see recent and planned local upgrades.
Is that the site you've used?
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Same place. They show upgrades happening but I don't see it. Its frustrating. I have 6 towers near me and get pathetic to OK coverage on base, but off bade its pretty good. Problem is I used to be on Verizon and they are strong in my area. I hate to switch back but I been w spring almost 2 years now, my wife has been w them 7 years. I am pretty close to cancelling this and moving on. I really like sprints line of phones but w 3 lines, I feel I can do better unless they have real changes they are making. I am holding on to the hold of the 800mhz I have seen floating around and was under the impression that that's what network vision was bringing me. Now 5 months after talk of it...still no great data. When everyone on Verizon is sucking data slam up. A consistent 1mb where ever I go isn't extreme to me when that's pretty much how Verizon treated me years ago. Now all my Verizon friends at seeing 2+mb

Same here...they upgrade some sites but nothing gets better. Even tech support said they upgraded one tower and was able to give me details. Still sub 100 kilobit speeds from this tower.

Well according to sprint next month I should have better service... needless to say if I dont see any difference then I'm gone cause I work 50+ hours a week and have no service wat so ever so if no improve bye bye sprint
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Where I live it's a struggle to get over 100 kbit on the 3g and 1 mbit on the 4g when it's available but It is better than AT&T.
Sprint unlimited is a joke, it's like offering unlimited mileage on an auto lease and then you find out it's a yugo that can't go much faster than 1 mph.
I can't break 1 gig a month because the data rates are so slow.
My plan is to drop sprint when my contract is up. You can sign a new contact and get cheaper prices on high end phones.

Wow 100kb? Yuck, I would have left them long ago. Hell, I roam at 130kb! I know sorta because I work on an air force base and in some spots data is non existent. I may ride it out until June...if it isn't happening, I have to leave sprint. Too bad they don't read forums haha. Hurry up Sprint! Stop buying iPhones and buy some damn towers!

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Wow 100kb? Yuck, I would have left them long ago. Hell, I roam at 130kb! I know sorta because I work on an air force base and in some spots data is non existent. I may ride it out until June...if it isn't happening, I have to leave sprint. Too bad they don't read forums haha. Hurry up Sprint! Stop buying iPhones and buy some damn towers!
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That is about the speed I get too most of the time, damn right, 14 billion to bog down your network some more, real winning company... **** the iPhone anyways...

I noticed my 4g signal ha become stronger over the past six months. This week I found I no longer lose 4g in the backroom at work and my 3g has started working a tad more in areas there was once none. Overall speed is the same just more coverage.
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I noticed my 4g signal ha become stronger over the past six months. This week I found I no longer lose 4g in the backroom at work and my 3g has started working a tad more in areas there was once none. Overall speed is the same just more coverage.
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That's positive. Hopefully something will come to my area soon . I was fishing for feedback. I do like sprints price. And have always had voice coverage, hopefully data coverage expands here

Its all about location. Sprint service isn't that bad guys.... I get great service in Omaha, NE .. however... 4g is virtually non-existent, which is retarded considering im required to pay for it. I have had verizon, alltel (when it existed), StraightTalk, AT&T.... I would say Sprint and StraightTalk (YES STRAIGHT TALK) provided the best service for me in terms of dropped calls and data. AT&T is a joke.
When I was using straight talk I had their nokia smart phone....if I recall correctly.... im pretty sure their 3g service ran off verizon towers, im not sure though.

A tower was marked recently as having recieved a data speed upgrade within the past 6 months near my niece's high school. We were there for a basketball game, 6pm to about 8pm at night on thursday. I did a speed test and saw 1200kbps. I was impressed. By my house it is still 200-300kbps at times dipping down to less than 100 or in the middle of the night peaking around 450.
From the looks of things the upgrades should be heading towards towers in my area soon. I am curious to see how it goes, as I would love to get better 3g speeds. I have some crappy 4g right now but its so spotty and the battery drain so significant 4g is just pointless to me.

Is there a site like this for Verizon? In case someone would like to (hypothetically) change prl's and force roam to Verizon in certain areas? It would be handy to know.
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sprint.com/network
Put in your zipcode to see recent and planned local upgrades.
Is that the site you've used?
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3G is gotten lil better.

Better where I am at. Nothing like what I would like but better.... on the funny side, My brother is staying with us and he has Verizon, talk about slow service in this area. You can cry and ***** all you want, all carriers will have problems. Why not over pay for them. lol

Mines slower. After the EL30 update. Modem issues thou. I hope not, I like the latest and greatest.

I live in Los Angeles. I've noticed my 4g improve in reliability, but decrease in speed.
My 3g is abysmal. Like, almost worthless. Once in a blue moon I'll get 200+ kb/s, but usually it is sub 100.
Calls/texts are generally fine though.

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I'm not seeing a huge problem with Sprint, I did 3 tests like this and they all came out roughly this fast. I live in the Twin Cities in Minnesota and I can stream Pandora without any interruptions back and forth from my 40 min commute. When I head to my dads place (its 3 hours away in the middle of nowhere) I can still stream Pandora basically skipless the whole way. I hardly ever use 4g though since its a battery suck and overkill 99% of the time, and it doesn't reach into my apartment . I also don't roam very often, automatic system select rarely works with data without some fiddling. I only use roaming at my dad's house since verizon is the only provider out there. Otherwise I'm pretty happy with Sprint