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How Does Sprint Roll Out 4G?

How does Sprint go about choosing cities for 4G? Also, when will most smaller "cities" finally have 4G? A year from now? Sooner, later? Does Sprint have any publication outlining their plans? I live Columbia, SC, and right now speeds are slllowwww on 3G. So when is YOUR city getting 4G? We've all been payin for it!

good luck finding that information out. I tried to contact sprint about those exact things and got the same bs over and over and over and over (yes four times )

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I live in Greenville and someone that works for Clearwire said they have one tower in the area but that's it so far. I'm not getting my hopes up for a full rollout any time soon and after getting to use 4G recently, I don't really care anymore either. T-Mobile's 3G is faster than what I've personally seen from Sprint's 4G, my wife and I are switching this summer when our ETF drops to $50/line.

I know. They pick a random city and provide customers with very spotty coverage that barely penetrates walls

You need to carry around a ghost buster battery pack to fully utilize 4G constantly any how. The only time I use 4G is when I'm plugged into a power source or to watch one video if needed. Almost useless pretty much, I'm in a 4G area and I'm using a rom without 4G and I'm just fine.

datajosh said:
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I live in Greenville and someone that works for Clearwire said they have one tower in the area but that's it so far. I'm not getting my hopes up for a full rollout any time soon and after getting to use 4G recently, I don't really care anymore either. T-Mobile's 3G is faster than what I've personally seen from Sprint's 4G, my wife and I are switching this summer when our ETF drops to $50/line.
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you know...if you didnt have to toggle the radio, it would be alot better. i agree with you tmobile is kicking some ass and taking names...however our saving grace for me and us is the anymobile anytime stuff. If tmob got that going id etf it...I like sprint and my 22% discount but i could pay the same on tmobile for the 3 lines I have (since I dont have to pay a 10.00 fee per line) and I could get liek the dell streak or some other snazzy gsm phone. Really cdma I personally think is a dying technology.

man, im starting to like this thread already
I think they all go out and get drunk, then throw darts at a map. Thats why they just rolled out 4g in Jamaica and Taiwan

elegantai said:
man, im starting to like this thread already
I think they all go out and get drunk, then throw darts at a map. Thats why they just rolled out 4g in Jamaica and Taiwan
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Is this Sprint Picking 4G
Its gotta be....The DART is Yellow LOL
Well now at least when im sitting at sandals in jamaica, I can check xda via 4g, and look up drinks I want quicker alowing me to consume more!

zikronix said:
Is this Sprint Picking 4G
Its gotta be....The DART is Yellow LOL
Well now at least when im sitting at sandals in jamaica, I can check xda via 4g, and look up drinks I want quicker alowing me to consume more!
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OMG lol!!! that was perfect

I wish I knew too. We just got 1 tower here in Appleton, Wisconsin. I'm not sure why we get these faster then bigger cities? Oh well, guess we will need to get an insider to leak the info.
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They are doing it based on population size. I've also heard that there is a minimum population size to even be considered for 4g.
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Geauxt said:
They are doing it based on population size. I've also heard that there is a minimum population size to even be considered for 4g.
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There must be a maximum too, we're still waiting here in San Diego... the nation's 7th largest city

zikronix said:
Is this Sprint Picking 4G
Its gotta be....The DART is Yellow LOL
Well now at least when im sitting at sandals in jamaica, I can check xda via 4g, and look up drinks I want quicker alowing me to consume more!
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^^Quite literally thee funniest commercial on tv right now!!!
HA!

Geauxt said:
They are doing it based on population size. I've also heard that there is a minimum population size to even be considered for 4g.
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I highly doubt this is the case. There are many examples where their roll out does not follow suit

I have to agree with elegantai, that seems like the most likely answer. I'm definitely not complaining though, they just turned it on here within the last week.

I've been wondering how they decide their rollouts. I have a feeling that the commercial is spot on
But anyway, I can't wait to try some day to day use here at KU. Been to KC a couple times and was blown away by how fast it was. 4G is supposed be activated here in a month or two, so stoked.
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Phillysphinest1 said:
^^Quite literally thee funniest commercial on tv right now!!!
HA!
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Yea I saw it a few weeks back and i thought it was awesome...

Afraid to stay with Sprint and get the EVO 3D.

Wow i really do want this phone badly. But i'm just so afraid of sprints 3g coverage. I can barely watch a you tube video now. Anything that involves data sucks. What good is a phone if the coverage is horrable. Plus now they are really going to get hammered with to many people on the network for them to handle. Anyone else afraid of this?

I feel the same way. I live in phoenix and their 3g here (at least around my job and home) sucks balls. My friends edge tmobile phone gets better speeds.

No cause my sprints coverage has been great
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Sprint in Sacramento is kick-ass. I'm not worried.

drmacinyasha said:
Sprint in Sacramento is kick-ass. I'm not worried.
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+1 for sactown always have full bars

I posted this in another thread but it applies here too. I get crappy 3G in my area and no 4G. They are so focused on bringing 3D phones but we can't even upload/stream regular vids to YouTube with their ****ty network. Why not roll out 4G in more cities and beef it up first? T-mobile is turning up the heat with 40mb in a few cities. This proves that sprint could turn it up as well if they wanted to.
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mob...mpaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)
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I do wish that the new Evo did have the LTE radio, as rumored, but I get 5Mbps in my apartment on 4G, so I'm not going to complain too much. And I have no issues with my 3G in this area, either.

The thing of it is guys, is what are our options? AT&T-Mobile or Verizon. Both with data caps, sub-par customer service(at least from my experience with the GF's iphone) and high rates. There's really no other choice.
That being said, sprint absolutely needs to step up their network. My evo will never connect to 4G. i can be sitting in downtown Dallas, TX, right in the middle of the alleged 4G coverage area and never connect. Its worthless.

I've never had an issue with 3G. Wimax is another thing. It's mostly good but I hardly use it for anything. I'm almost always in Wifi when I want to download a big file anyway. Pretty sure they are going to eventually add LTE support to their towers since Wimax is ok for cheaply blanketing an area in Wifi-like coverage but isn't so great in big buildings and they are dependent on Clearwire's oversubscribed network.
For all the talk of "why are they worrying about 3D phones and stuff like that", they need to stay up on the flashy new handsets because that is what gets them subscribers. This is their chance to really make or break their company with the playing field narrowing soon. AT&T proved with the iPhone that folks will put up with all kinds of crap for a must-have handset so they need to keep putting out exclusives that stand out in the market in order to stay attractive to customers.
Moving to another company would cost me a lot more per month and add a data cap so I am not going anywhere soon. I used to have T-Mobile to fall back on if Sprint ever pissed me off but with them being bought up, it's time to double down on Sprint.

Since when does VZW have a data cap? And I dont mean some data cap that "may" come at some point down the road. At this point the data is still unlimited.

I live in KC, which is basically saying the Sprint HQ (overland park is a division of KC) and the service here could def be better. 3g is no too bad, unless you go to Overland Park. Which is funny, because your IN the campus, and service blows. 4g... you pretty much have to be downtown to really make it "better" than 3g. I too find it odd that t-mo can ramp up 3g speeds to topple our 4g. Co worker has tmo and he dominates me in d/l speed. Somehow for him that equates to his mytouch slide 4g being better than my evo, but then again he does have a wicked self idolize-ing issue.

SilverStone641 said:
The thing of it is guys, is what are our options? AT&T-Mobile or Verizon. Both with data caps, sub-par customer service(at least from my experience with the GF's iphone) and high rates. There's really no other choice.
That being said, sprint absolutely needs to step up their network. My evo will never connect to 4G. i can be sitting in downtown Dallas, TX, right in the middle of the alleged 4G coverage area and never connect. Its worthless.
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what part of downtown? i can sit over by the opera house and get 4g.

Ok guys, relax. It's one of two things if you are getting slow 3g speeds.
First, Sprint is actually growing again. In some areas it's growing so much that the existing network is at capacity. It's being addressed.
Or, it's a bug with some phones on 3.70 or 3.70 based ROMs. It's being addressed in the next update (not sure if it's going to be gingerbread or not)

clamknuckle said:
Ok guys, relax. It's one of two things if you are getting slow 3g speeds.
First, Sprint is actually growing again. In some areas it's growing so much that the existing network is at capacity. It's being addressed.
Or, it's a bug with some phones on 3.70 or 3.70 based ROMs. It's being addressed in the next update (not sure if it's going to be gingerbread or not)
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Not disagreeing at all with your points, but the max capacity is what the op is saying he's/she's afraid of. I've seen extremely slow coverage expansion of 4g in KC, while other carries have been going hard at it. It's doubtful they are expanding 3g much anymore since 4g is the "new baby." I like Sprint don't get me wrong, but if the op is more concerned with coverage, and the fact that we face $10 a month for 4g coverage, he may very well be better off with another carrier.

You all act like Sprint could revamp their entire network overnight if they wanted. I know for fact they are working on it, and I see signs of improvement all the time. I can get 2Mb downloads now on 3g in several locations in my city where 2-3 months ago I was lucky to get 200k. Maybe they could make people happier faster in the short term by taking shortcuts, but it looks like they're doing it right. So have patience or gtfo.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19

xviiivx said:
You all act like Sprint could revamp their entire network overnight if they wanted. I know for fact they are working on it, and I see signs of improvement all the time. I can get 2Mb downloads now on 3g in several locations in my city where 2-3 months ago I was lucky to get 200k. Maybe they could make people happier faster in the short term by taking shortcuts, but it looks like they're doing it right. So have patience or gtfo.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19
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Well if it's ok in your city then that should be ok for everyone worldwide then. Try growing up before posting please.

brownhornet said:
Since when does VZW have a data cap? And I dont mean some data cap that "may" come at some point down the road. At this point the data is still unlimited.
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lol there unlimited, but we can and have canceled customers for using more then 5 gb a month without a tethering plan unlimited?

aimbdd said:
lol there unlimited, but we can and have canceled customers for using more then 5 gb a month without a tethering plan unlimited?
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Supposedly Sprint also has a "cap." Never seen it myself, but that "rumor" has gone around a bit.

I feel the exact same way. My 3g is terrible, I get anywhere from 200-700 MAX DOWN and about 400 UP. No 4g at all. :/
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jlechner said:
Well if it's ok in your city then that should be ok for everyone worldwide then. Try growing up before posting please.
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Try growing up?? WTF??? Did you not click on the link to see that I was trying to provide some hope for people that are not in a good data area?
I did not even say it was ok in my city... I said there are signs of improvement and there are places that are great. I was just trying to help people out who think the network sux everywhere and Sprint is not doing anything about it anywhere... because that is wrong. They are working on it diligently.
Perhaps my "have patience or gtfo" comment was a little rude, but that sums up the situation here. The network sux. It's getting better. If you can't wait for the improvements, complaining on xda is not going to do anything for you.

sprint satisfaction lol

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...TlAO9A?docId=6a8ed447b0714bdd86f1633a594338dc
woot go sprint hahaha

It surprises me.
Honestly, been with Sprint for 9 years.
Never had an issue until right after they won the J.D. power associates award for customer service.
I just wonder how they rate it.

I always hear a lot of complaints about Sprint but I've never had major issues with them ..just small issues that all carriers have ....

DarkManX4lf said:
I always hear a lot of complaints about Sprint but I've never had major issues with them ..just small issues that all carriers have ....
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Agreed . . . found most CS Reps to do the best they can with what they have or bump it to someone else that can help . .

not only did I save over $100 / month moving to sprint from verizon, but I have a better phone, and have dropped less calls. I think a lot of the sprint hate is very unwarranted

Sprint is good for a flip phones that does not use data service and windows mobile 6.5 and older but with new smartphones, sprint sucks, they don't have the capacity to handle the demand of data.

dmora01 said:
Sprint is good for a flip phones that does not use data service and windows mobile 6.5 and older but with new smartphones, sprint sucks, they don't have the capacity to handle the demand of data.
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Handles my demand lol
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I agree that Sprint has data issues in many areas. After the Evo 3d is released it will be worse with the throngs of new subscribers and returning old ones. Hopefully Sprint can handle it and get the data up to par

Sprint is good for a flip phones that does not use data service and windows mobile 6.5 and older but with new smartphones, sprint sucks, they don't have the capacity to handle the demand of data.
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Really? Cause I was watching episodes of The State on Netflix while riding in the passenger seat, going down the highway. Not one hiccup till we got WAY out in the country. If it is able to stream full-length television shows without buffering out like crazy, it can't be all that bad. Maybe it is your particular area, man. I know speeds went to crap for a few months, but lately it has been much better all over my area.

I get 300 kb/s usually on Sprint at the same time I get 700 kb/s on AT&T.
Both are so low I don't even care anymore.

Hazelfoot said:
I get 300 kb/s usually on Sprint at the same time I get 700 kb/s on AT&T.
Both are so low I don't even care anymore.
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LOL, No 4G in St. Louis?
I haven't seen speeds that slow in awhile.
Me? Yeah I can say I'm satisfied, Great phones, great plans & price. And my data speed... It Just gets faster:

Noiro said:
LOL, No 4G in St. Louis?
I haven't seen speeds that slow in awhile.
Me? Yeah I can say I'm satisfied, Great phones, great plans & price. And my data speed... It Just gets faster:
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In my best cases, I have never seen anything close to that. I think once or twice I eclipsed 10kbps on 4g a while ago. Now I get 2-6 on 4G and about dialup usually on 3G. In the Minneapolis metro area.

I've been getting 15 mps down on 4g but I use speak easy thoe speedtest.net site is mest up over here
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Noiro said:
LOL, No 4G in St. Louis?
I haven't seen speeds that slow in awhile.
Me? Yeah I can say I'm satisfied, Great phones, great plans & price. And my data speed... It Just gets faster:
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where in Philly is this???? I see nothing close to that on 4G. Best I ever got was 3.5 mbs down

alaman68 said:
where in Philly is this???? I see nothing close to that on 4G. Best I ever got was 3.5 mbs down
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LOL I'm in Aston, PA. About 40 minutes south of Philly.

Noiro said:
LOL, No 4G in St. Louis?
I haven't seen speeds that slow in awhile.
Me? Yeah I can say I'm satisfied, Great phones, great plans & price. And my data speed... It Just gets faster:
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Dang that's fast for sprint 4g. Over here in SD in the sdsu college only place to get 4g I get about 10m and 1.2 down. But we don't have 4g completely around SD.
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I have never had a problem with Sprint either. Sure, some reps aren't as good as others...but you will see that on all carriers. I have had my EVO replaced a few times and it's been very easy and painless. I don't plan on switching carriers any time soon.

alaman68 said:
not only did I save over $100 / month moving to sprint from verizon, but I have a better phone, and have dropped less calls. I think a lot of the sprint hate is very unwarranted
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There always will be haters.

Sprint has been pretty good with me and the costumer service and voice service is pretty good, my complaint is the data service was very good in my area 6 months ago but now is crappy, I have good coverage full bars most of my town but the data is way too slow and I don't have 4G so the $10 premium for the data is bs..... they don't want to fix it and now with the nexus s and the evo 3D is going to get worst.
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winderg said:
There always will be haters.
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Truf
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anyone seen any network improvements?

All I heard was how sprints network is getting fast and blah blah blah but has anyone seen speeds that are actually faster? Mid Ga doesn't seem any better. I looked at the sight and see upgrades being done but I can't tell at all. Am I crazy or am I getting ransacked

sprint.com/network
Put in your zipcode to see recent and planned local upgrades.
Is that the site you've used?
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I've been on sprint for like 15 years... Sprint sucks! All i here is they are getting better, more towers bla bla bla.. I would rather be data throttled than have no signal... I have to June i believe than i jump ship... Sorry I'm not trolling i just felt my blood pressure rise...
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troyolson92 said:
I've been on sprint for like 15 years... Sprint sucks! All i here is they are getting better, more towers bla bla bla.. I would rather be data throttled than have no signal... I have to June i believe than i jump ship... Sorry I'm not trolling i just felt my blood pressure rise...
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Hey man we all have opinions and freedom to do whatever we want ...

austin420 said:
sprint.com/network
Put in your zipcode to see recent and planned local upgrades.
Is that the site you've used?
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Same place. They show upgrades happening but I don't see it. Its frustrating. I have 6 towers near me and get pathetic to OK coverage on base, but off bade its pretty good. Problem is I used to be on Verizon and they are strong in my area. I hate to switch back but I been w spring almost 2 years now, my wife has been w them 7 years. I am pretty close to cancelling this and moving on. I really like sprints line of phones but w 3 lines, I feel I can do better unless they have real changes they are making. I am holding on to the hold of the 800mhz I have seen floating around and was under the impression that that's what network vision was bringing me. Now 5 months after talk of it...still no great data. When everyone on Verizon is sucking data slam up. A consistent 1mb where ever I go isn't extreme to me when that's pretty much how Verizon treated me years ago. Now all my Verizon friends at seeing 2+mb

Same here...they upgrade some sites but nothing gets better. Even tech support said they upgraded one tower and was able to give me details. Still sub 100 kilobit speeds from this tower.

Well according to sprint next month I should have better service... needless to say if I dont see any difference then I'm gone cause I work 50+ hours a week and have no service wat so ever so if no improve bye bye sprint
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Where I live it's a struggle to get over 100 kbit on the 3g and 1 mbit on the 4g when it's available but It is better than AT&T.
Sprint unlimited is a joke, it's like offering unlimited mileage on an auto lease and then you find out it's a yugo that can't go much faster than 1 mph.
I can't break 1 gig a month because the data rates are so slow.
My plan is to drop sprint when my contract is up. You can sign a new contact and get cheaper prices on high end phones.

Wow 100kb? Yuck, I would have left them long ago. Hell, I roam at 130kb! I know sorta because I work on an air force base and in some spots data is non existent. I may ride it out until June...if it isn't happening, I have to leave sprint. Too bad they don't read forums haha. Hurry up Sprint! Stop buying iPhones and buy some damn towers!

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Wow 100kb? Yuck, I would have left them long ago. Hell, I roam at 130kb! I know sorta because I work on an air force base and in some spots data is non existent. I may ride it out until June...if it isn't happening, I have to leave sprint. Too bad they don't read forums haha. Hurry up Sprint! Stop buying iPhones and buy some damn towers!
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That is about the speed I get too most of the time, damn right, 14 billion to bog down your network some more, real winning company... **** the iPhone anyways...

I noticed my 4g signal ha become stronger over the past six months. This week I found I no longer lose 4g in the backroom at work and my 3g has started working a tad more in areas there was once none. Overall speed is the same just more coverage.
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R3537L1F3 said:
I noticed my 4g signal ha become stronger over the past six months. This week I found I no longer lose 4g in the backroom at work and my 3g has started working a tad more in areas there was once none. Overall speed is the same just more coverage.
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That's positive. Hopefully something will come to my area soon . I was fishing for feedback. I do like sprints price. And have always had voice coverage, hopefully data coverage expands here

Its all about location. Sprint service isn't that bad guys.... I get great service in Omaha, NE .. however... 4g is virtually non-existent, which is retarded considering im required to pay for it. I have had verizon, alltel (when it existed), StraightTalk, AT&T.... I would say Sprint and StraightTalk (YES STRAIGHT TALK) provided the best service for me in terms of dropped calls and data. AT&T is a joke.
When I was using straight talk I had their nokia smart phone....if I recall correctly.... im pretty sure their 3g service ran off verizon towers, im not sure though.

A tower was marked recently as having recieved a data speed upgrade within the past 6 months near my niece's high school. We were there for a basketball game, 6pm to about 8pm at night on thursday. I did a speed test and saw 1200kbps. I was impressed. By my house it is still 200-300kbps at times dipping down to less than 100 or in the middle of the night peaking around 450.
From the looks of things the upgrades should be heading towards towers in my area soon. I am curious to see how it goes, as I would love to get better 3g speeds. I have some crappy 4g right now but its so spotty and the battery drain so significant 4g is just pointless to me.

Is there a site like this for Verizon? In case someone would like to (hypothetically) change prl's and force roam to Verizon in certain areas? It would be handy to know.
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sprint.com/network
Put in your zipcode to see recent and planned local upgrades.
Is that the site you've used?
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3G is gotten lil better.

Better where I am at. Nothing like what I would like but better.... on the funny side, My brother is staying with us and he has Verizon, talk about slow service in this area. You can cry and ***** all you want, all carriers will have problems. Why not over pay for them. lol

Mines slower. After the EL30 update. Modem issues thou. I hope not, I like the latest and greatest.

I live in Los Angeles. I've noticed my 4g improve in reliability, but decrease in speed.
My 3g is abysmal. Like, almost worthless. Once in a blue moon I'll get 200+ kb/s, but usually it is sub 100.
Calls/texts are generally fine though.

http://imgur.com/M1hgf
I'm not seeing a huge problem with Sprint, I did 3 tests like this and they all came out roughly this fast. I live in the Twin Cities in Minnesota and I can stream Pandora without any interruptions back and forth from my 40 min commute. When I head to my dads place (its 3 hours away in the middle of nowhere) I can still stream Pandora basically skipless the whole way. I hardly ever use 4g though since its a battery suck and overkill 99% of the time, and it doesn't reach into my apartment . I also don't roam very often, automatic system select rarely works with data without some fiddling. I only use roaming at my dad's house since verizon is the only provider out there. Otherwise I'm pretty happy with Sprint

Clearwire's TDD-LTE rolling out in early 2013. Any one think it will be epic

Link:http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/26/...-new-york-city-chicago-seattle-san-francisco/
Yes thank you clear, I will be rocking unlimited TDD LTE in 2013. Eat that TWC who can't give any good upload speeds.
2013 Is my lucky year.
Is any one else waiting for this?

clearwire is known to throttle like a summabeach.

Omg awsome now i can enjoy lte dialup speeds yay
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I've gotten a clearwire signal before on a sprint evo 3d. It wasn't very reliable.
But obviously that isn't this new LTE stuff they are rolling out. Hopefully it is more dependable than the wimax signal. Because that is terrible. I was in Kansas City for a week (sprints backyard) according to their map in the heart of wimax coverage and never got better than 5mbs down and the signal would drop every few minutes. And that was with me standing outside.

Its the same spectrum so enjoy it outdoors n pray nothing walks by
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My worst fear may indeed become true now. I can see it Now "Sprint 4gLTE powered by clear" Being someone who lives only two blocks from the main tower for my entire "Grater Metro Area" Clear service is NOT that great at all in my personal and professional opinion.

I honestly don't know how clear is even still around. All of my experience with them was awful.

I will tell you TWC is awful and I will be jumping on this just for even with 100 to 1 odd's this will suck becuase TWC is the lowest of the low isp's, but they don't care becuase they are a "bit" better than option #2. I don't want to even go in to why they sucked. Only AOL sucked more than "option #2". I pay for 10/1 and I get 2.5/1 with 58-60% packet loss and 45-60 ping. My LTE phone can get better ping than that. And becuase I got it fixed it can blow it away in over all speed. If I could I would use it for home internet, but the battery life on the phone sucks big time.
All I hope is verizon did not fix there "issue" like TWC or I will be pissed.
Point: I am screwed when it come's to ISP's vs what a lot of you can get hooked up with: FIO's,comcast, and so on. ( Yea I said it, I don't even get comcast that how much were I live sucks with ISP's.)
I would pay $500 in a heartbeat for verizon to lay a fiber opic cable to my house and give me fio's if it was that easy. I would get the highest 150/35 plan if thats what it took for them to do it, but they will not.
So as you can tell I will take ANY shot for better speeds right now.