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EVO connected threw Clearwire relm, 10mps down 1.5 up! IS SPRINT LIMITING BANDWIDTH?

I purchased internet service straight from Clearwire and changed my evo settings on the 4G side exclusively to Clearwire settings. My best speed with Sprint was 3.5mps now I am getting ten mps? What am I missing here? My brother has a TMobile g1 that was always getting better speeds than me. That promted me to want to research this. I am told by Clearwire reps that Sprint uses a technology called MIP to help lock on to towers which can cause slower speeds. Anyone aware of this MIP technology?
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Would that really surprise you?
Although, didn't Sprint claim us EVO people who were paying the $10 extra would get "unlimited" speed? Well unlimited within the capabilities of the 4G service anyway.
Wouldn't that be fraud then?

kdoggy said:
Would that really surprise you?
Although, didn't Sprint claim us EVO people who were paying the $10 extra would get "unlimited" speed? Well unlimited within the capabilities of the 4G service anyway.
Wouldn't that be fraud then?
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Yes, I think you should sue Sprint.

There's people posting that are getting 9/10 mbps on sprint 4g.
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I get 8mb on average, 9mb max on 4g using speedtest app on phone, not even tethering..

I usually get around 9-10mpbs but I have peaked at 13mpbs.
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Sprint does not cap download speeds. They do currently cap upload speeds to 1mbps.

no they dont cap, they throttle the network which is just as bad, in my area there are 4 antennas which blanket the whole town, one side is closer to 1Mbps the other 3-4Mbps, the other 2 in between 1-3 but in peraland just 2 streets down theres a 5th that covers just that area of pearland and there i reach 8-9 and where i am the evo wont stay on 4g longer then a minute before losing the signal
@simon what do you mean by change the settings to clear? i thought that you just turn it on and off...theres a settings page for 4g?

gotten 8-9mbps on evo's at best buy and around the sprint store location. Getting about 3-5mbps about 5-10miles from those locations

look at my sig.. i had a mt3g and now have the evo. i use mobilespeedtest for the mytouch because i wasnt getting good speed results with speedtest app. on the evo the speed test app was better
forgot to answer the mip tech thing. when i had an issue with my phone i had to reset the tower from where i purchased the phone to where i live. i had to drive 150 miles round trip for the phone. when i got back it was all messed up. had to reset some settings like update prl and stuff to get the new tower connected. im guessing everytime you go somewhere and plan to stay for a while or youre getting slow speeds try rebooting phone and see if that helps. but anyway you already switched, so yah

I got 11mb in silicone valley.

Last-Chance said:
gotten 8-9mbps on evo's at best buy and around the sprint store location. Getting about 3-5mbps about 5-10miles from those locations
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It always nice by those BB's and certain Sprint stores! They love to use repeaters so when they sell you the service it always works so nice for demo purposes.......waiting the Sprint store 2 miles from the house to get theirs..The store mgr has been saying any week now it should be installed for the last 2 months. Hopefully it will share some of those 4G's with me! If and when it gets installed. 4G's---still lol'n

It appears that there is there is a speed increase by merely changing the realm to clearwire-wmx.net from sprintpcs.com. In addition to speed, ping times were reduced from 400ms to 100ms.
It appears that the sprint wimax realm is limited somehow. QOS? At any rate, sprints 4g appears to be crippled.
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imcdona said:
It appears that there is there is a speed increase by merely changing the realm to clearwire-wmx.net from sprintpcs.com. In addition to speed, ping times were reduced from 400ms to 100ms.
It appears that the sprint wimax realm is limited somehow. QOS? At any rate, sprints 4g appears to be crippled.
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how did you switch it? i wanna try it and see if it changes my dl speed at all

@zeuzinn all the evidence thus far seems to contradict your statement. Have you tried changing you realm to clearwire-wmx.net?
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manooti said:
how did you switch it? i wanna try it and see if it changes my dl speed at all
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Exactly what he said, how exactly do you switch?

flyingwolf said:
Exactly what he said, how exactly do you switch?
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##3282# > Edit Mode > put in your MSL > select WiMax. In there is an option to change your realm
...in 1943, I killed a drifter.

Chem_Guy said:
I got 11mb in silicone valley.
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I got 69mb down on your mom!

imcdona said:
@zeuzinn all the evidence thus far seems to contradict your statement. Have you tried changing you realm to clearwire-wmx.net?
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No. Trying it now
Update: Didn't work for me. I open up the browser and it says "Clear has an important message for you" with a continue button right below. I click on it and get redirected to Clear.com. Same thing happens if I try to go to any website.

Clear is a load of crap i had them and i only would get dial up speeds and on my evo i get 5 mps to 11 mps mostly 11 mps downtown so far and unlimited no caps
HTC EVIL PHONE

Clearwire to drop retail, focus on corporate world!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...-wholesale-drop-retail-plans-wsj-reports.html
I think we all knew this was coming, but I wonder if we will feel the effects of it, as if we don't already. My 4G is lucky to hit 1 down here in Idaho; 3G has been 200kbps down for the past few months, but 3G up is always at least 1mbps - soo stupid.

I what kind of effect this will have on their subsidiary, Clear Wireless, that sells 4G specifically to consumer/retail... they are my current ISP for home and laptop...

Corporate world.... to people such as Sprint and Comcast.... I don't see how this could be bad.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/wsj-clearwire-moving-away-from-retail-will-concentrate-on-netw/
WSJ says that the move may make Sprint more comfortable investing more cash in the company since they'll no longer be giving off the appearance that they're competing head-to-head on the customer level. Investment is exactly what Clearwire needs to survive right now, and whether it comes from Sprint or another national carrier that's in the market for 4G spectrum, you know what they say: money is money.
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Not saying it will be bad for sure, but clearwire and clear are horrible companies in the first place, especially when it comes to their customers. Why sprint invested and bought half of them is beyond me. What chapped to Sprint XOME or whatever 4G thing they were working on on their own a few years back?
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abrigham said:
I what kind of effect this will have on their subsidiary, Clear Wireless, that sells 4G specifically to consumer/retail... they are my current ISP for home and laptop...
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if clear 4g is good enough in your area that you get it inside your home, why don't you just get a sprint unlimited data plan and tether?
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wrb123 said:
if clear 4g is good enough in your area that you get it inside your home, why don't you just get a sprint unlimited data plan and tether?
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Some people I'm sure don't like to disable their internet connection at home every time they leave the house, especially if they don't live alone.
And what do you do if you've got to leave and whatever download/torrent you've got going on isn't finished? Cancel it or put it on hold until you come home?

Sprnt was the first on the market to get 4g with a half assed ran company. Sprint is the first on the market with a dual touchscreen *yawn* phone from a half assed phone manufacturer. Now maybe Sprint will be the first to drop the first 4g network..... Sorry just venting.

Hrshycro said:
What chapped to Sprint XOME or whatever 4G thing they were working on on their own a few years back?
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Xohm merged into Clear.

Sprint 4g is great as long as you are outside in the open and not moving at all.
The EVO you wish you had

3g and 4g really ticking me off!

Been almost a year and my 3g service is poor outside, and still no 4g in my area of south jersey. I really luv this evo, but my girl has thunderbolt from verizon and her service is amazing with no signal problems! Sorry had to vent, but sprint needs to get there 3 and 4 g up to speed or im making the jump to verizon! They should not advertise 4g when its not even available!
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fierceeagle2003 said:
Been almost a year and my 3g service is poor outside, and still no 4g in my area of south jersey. I really luv this evo, but my girl has thunderbolt from verizon and her service is amazing with no signal problems! Sorry had to vent, but sprint needs to get there 3 and 4 g up to speed or im making the jump to verizon! They should not advertise 4g when its not even available!
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Huh... Clear map says you have coverage... take the 4g issue up with them. Call Sprint with your 3g issues, you might get a credit. ALso, if you jump ship remember SPrint own 3times as much spectrum then Verizon or Att. Eventually when their networks are congested, Sprint will have plenty more to play with.

i agree..3g here has been horrible since november of last year and verizons service here is awesome..on top of that verizon lte will be in my area in a few months...even more of a reason to jump ship..

Hey, 4g is in philly, not south jersey, we get the ****ty outcast signal , i want 4g all over south jersey! Were now in quarter 1 of 2011 when this phone has been out for almost a year! They need to stop [email protected]$%* and fix the problem, and ive been with sprint since 2000 long time custy , they need to do whats right!
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blakeboys said:
Huh... Clear map says you have coverage... take the 4g issue up with them. Call Sprint with your 3g issues, you might get a credit. ALso, if you jump ship remember SPrint own 3times as much spectrum then Verizon or Att. Eventually when their networks are congested, Sprint will have plenty more to play with.
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Yea and by the time Sprint actually implements that spectrum and puts it to use itll be years from now.

I just jumped...well tomorrow my tbolt will be here. Wanted to stay but couldnt take the data issues. They waved my etf cause ive been complaining once a wk since nov. It wasnt easy getting them to wave it. Others are jumping to.

I downloaded Firefox 4 today - it took a good 30 minutes. Ridiculous.
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I just jumped ship from TMO to Sprint because I couldn't get 3G anywhere near home here in Oklahoma but every single other carrier had it. I have had great experience with Sprints 3G. What are you guys speeds? I download at a consistent 1mbit or better.

dowmace said:
I just jumped ship from TMO to Sprint because I couldn't get 3G anywhere near home here in Oklahoma but every single other carrier had it. I have had great experience with Sprints 3G. What are you guys speeds? I download at a consistent 1mbit or better.
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<500kbit in NYC. Usually around 300, used to get 1.5 mbit about a year ago.
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Even if you get 4g in your area it still sucks as far as building penetration

Award Tour said:
I downloaded Firefox 4 today - it took a good 30 minutes. Ridiculous.
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Dude.....if that takes 30 mins, then you should switch RIGHT NOW. i love the EVO and all of its glory but you should at least get a phone that is enjoyable to have.

I guess I got it good in Houston. My 3G speeds are good, 4G is even better. If they were as you are describing I would have ditched sprint a long time ago!

I'm a long way from you guys, near Toronto, well, between Toronto and Detroit. I did a quick speed test tonight and my hsupa speeds were faster than when I'm home on wifi!? I'll post some #'s momentarily.
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tkjeeper said:
I'm a long way from you guys, near Toronto, well, between Toronto and Detroit. I did a quick speed test tonight and my hsupa speeds were faster than when I'm home on wifi!? I'll post some #'s momentarily.
Bah, made a liar out of me! Must have been the area I was in! 3.3 mb/s on wifi, 1 mb/s in home, wifi off, hsupa on. Oh well.
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dowmace said:
I just jumped ship from TMO to Sprint because I couldn't get 3G anywhere near home here in Oklahoma but every single other carrier had it. I have had great experience with Sprints 3G. What are you guys speeds? I download at a consistent 1mbit or better.
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Same here...

Is sprint purposely slow?

After watching this video I'm starting to wonder if sprint is intentionally slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I've been less than a mile from a tower and have my connection suck. In a open air environment to.
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I can't watch that video rgt now cuz I'm on VZW 1x lolol
What is it?
And sprint has been slow on 3g since the evo came out
Before that, sprint was worthy of its name
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A_Flying_Fox said:
I can't watch that video rgt now cuz I'm on VZW 1x lolol
What is it?
And sprint has been slow on 3g since the evo came out
Before that, sprint was worthy of its name
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"Sprint - to run at full speed"
How ironic lol
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If verizon wasn't so damn expensive I would go there. I think sprint good prices and plan is the reason they won't up the speed of there network. Its not like sprint don't have the technology to do so.
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My speeds depend on which tower I'm connected to. The one on the main road has good signal but crappy speeds, and the tower at work is 1-2 bars but steady 2 mbps. I also work in the boonies and there are probably only 5 people connected to it.
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blackdragon79 said:
After watching this video I'm starting to wonder if sprint is intentionally slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You could argue that all carriers are slow. It depends on the tower, prl, and etc, as well as how much you tweak your phone's radio-dependent files, but ruling out those factors, it truly does matter on your data plan. Most, if not all carriers cap your speeds when you're on unlimited plans, those who are on data limits are the ones who truly get no cap, although it doesn't matter because they have a limit, so its as if they're capped anyway.
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Shinydude100 said:
You could argue that all carriers are slow. It depends on the tower, prl, and etc, as well as how much you tweak your phone's radio-dependent files, but ruling out those factors, it truly does matter on your data plan. Most, if not all carriers cap your speeds when you're on unlimited plans, those who are on data limits are the ones who truly get no cap, although it doesn't matter because they have a limit, so its as if they're capped anyway.
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Sprint claims they don't cap under any circumstances. I think the problem is that Sprint simply doesn't know how to maintain their network well enough to keep up with the demand.
I've whined about this endlessly but I'll give a little example of what I'm talking about. My wife and I drove back to our apartment in the city from upstate NY this morning. We had Spotify going the entire time and at no point did we have any skips or gaps in songs during playback. As soon as we got in our neighborhood, however, the song we were listening to cut began getting choppy before eventually cutting out completely. In the time it took us to find a parking spot - about 5 or so minutes - the song cut out for about 4:50 before coming back with a choppy signal. Sprint has told me a few dozen times that there's a problem with a tower in this neighborhood that somehow never gets fixed. Let's face it, if Sprint can't get their network working reliably in NYC, what does that say about their competence?

The problem is Sprint hasn't invested in their network or backhaul since they came out with data plans back in 2003-2004.

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The problem is Sprint hasn't invested in their network or backhaul since they came out with data plans back in 2003-2004.
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This exactly.
Now they are, unfortunately for us it's going to take a little to see the results.
The mere insinuation that Sprint would be slow [in some areas as slow at 50k] on purpose is...well... I'll be nice and say it isn't smart.

I think sprint is playing smart by saying unlimited data for ad but actually they can only serve very slow speeds everybody.
this in turn make me use less data because I rely on my wifi. A win win situation for the sprint but not for customers.
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mtwow789 said:
I think sprint is playing smart by saying unlimited data for ad but actually they can only serve very slow speeds everybody.
this in turn make me use less data because I rely on my wifi. A win win situation for the sprint but not for customers.
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not sure if this is there intention per se but there's certainly some truth to it. I've got friends who have AT&T iPhones and they routinely go over 5 gigs of data in a month with streaming and whatnot. I've never cracked 600 megs with my Epic because the data speeds are too slow - why would I try to download several gigabytes of data when my downstream tops out a .30 Mbps? when I can get on 4G it's great but it usually knocks me off intermittently until I just give up and switch back to 3G.

I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.

mtwow789 said:
I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
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I saw ~20 people in the Sprint store this weekend just for the Iphone.

So i guess it not just my crapy little town

If they tried to give full speed to everyone, we would all be taxing the bandwidth, creating a data traffic jam - no data for anyone. (this isn't necessarily an accurate description, I can't claim to know all - but the concept is sound)
The bandwidth is inherently shared, so they have to make sure that everyone gets enough to consider it more than useless.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited bandwidth... Anyone remember when cable internet first came out? It was fast as hell, until prices came down and a few of my neighbors got on board
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I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
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Good idea - sue them for all they're worth. Then they go bankrupt, and we're all left with Verizon, AT&T or T mobile (or crappy prepaid, which typically piggy backs on the major carrier's networks...)
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sigh.. is there no other alternatives then Sprint?
I know Sprint is cheap, but this slowness is too much.
What's the point of unlimited data when I just rely on my wifi.
In this rate, I can take 200mb option from ATT. Because I cant use that much in sprint.

mtwow789 said:
sigh.. is there no other alternatives then Sprint?
I know Sprint is cheap, but this slowness is too much.
What's the point of unlimited data when I just rely on my wifi.
In this rate, I can take 200mb option from ATT. Because I cant use that much in sprint.
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Get a T-Mobile vibrant then unlock it and put in an att sim card. Tell att you want the $15 unlimited data plan for quick messaging phones and give them your imei. If they ask what your phone is tell them it's just an old samsung tmobile phone and mention nothing about android or the real name of the phone, Enjoy.
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styles420 said:
If they tried to give full speed to everyone, we would all be taxing the bandwidth, creating a data traffic jam - no data for anyone. (this isn't necessarily an accurate description, I can't claim to know all - but the concept is sound)
The bandwidth is inherently shared, so they have to make sure that everyone gets enough to consider it more than useless.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited bandwidth... Anyone remember when cable internet first came out? It was fast as hell, until prices came down and a few of my neighbors got on board
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I'm sure everything you are saying is true. The problem is that Sprint claims they don't limit bandwidth or throttle at all. And it's the line of bulls--t from Sprint that angers me more than their pathetically slow service. That they can't just come forward and speak the truth rather than trying to lure customers in with false promises is a deceptive business practice.

It should be class action for all not just iPhone ppl on sprint.
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Sprint to delay 4G LTE, what a shock!

http://www.pcworld.com/article/245561/sprint_delays_4g_lte_rollout.html
The good news, if one can take seriously any statements coming from Overland Park, KS., is that Sprint will support 4G through 2015. This, of course, like the terms of our contracts, is subject to change at any time for any reason. I guess the $1.5 billion "Investment" in Clear, anticipated legal fees and class-action payouts in light of the C.I.Q. melt-down, and not-to-be-realized data mining profits have taken their toll.
Have you forgotten some old proverbs:
Honesty is the best policy
Cheaters never prosper
The cover-up is worse than the crime
How about trying a new one,
Our customers can handle the truth.
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The LTE uncertainty is why I am holding off on an upgrade till at least late 2012.

Jayavarman said:
The LTE uncertainty is why I am holding off on an upgrade till at least late 2012.
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It's why I'm switching to Verizon after the first of the year. They already have working 4g that gets 20mbps down.

My warrant officer has an HTC jet stream on at&t running lte 26+ down speed test I'm planning on switching it honestly isn't that expensive for what I need
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The network upgrade is proceeding as planned they just wont have the devices until the second half of 2012.

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It's why I'm switching to Verizon after the first of the year. They already have working 4g that gets 20mbps down.
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And to add to that they just purchased a large amount of spectrum to use for lte. I'm 90% going to switch to Verizon when my contract ends next October. Unless sprint pulls something really good out of their ass..
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I use a ton of data so ATT or Verizon isn't an option. I'm fine with my evo through most of 2012 until the LTE phones come out. I'm confused about some of the posts in here though. Sure, 20mps is awesome....but doesn't that mean you just hit the cap sooner?

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I use a ton of data so ATT or Verizon isn't an option. I'm fine with my evo through most of 2012 until the LTE phones come out. I'm confused about some of the posts in here though. Sure, 20mps is awesome....but doesn't that mean you just hit the cap sooner?
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No, its just how much data you can pull in chunks. Whether you download a 100mb file at 500kb/s or 25Mb/s , its the same amount of data, you'll just get it faster at 25Mb/s.

I wish I was getting 500kbps lol I live in the Indy area and can't get ****
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teh roxxorz said:
No, its just how much data you can pull in chunks. Whether you download a 100mb file at 500kb/s or 25Mb/s , its the same amount of data, you'll just get it faster at 25Mb/s.
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Since vz data is not unlimited you actually do hit the cap faster. I know if i had 4g or lte i would be jammin on that data!
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interloper said:
Since vz data is not unlimited you actually do hit the cap faster. I know if i had 4g or lte i would be jammin on that data!
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If that's how they're operating, they're literally robbing you.

Sprints data is unlimited. Verizon and att have a capped plan. You get x amount of data for x amount of money. If you go over you pay. I like sprint. I live in a rural are and roam off a verizon tower. I still dont hit the data roaming limit and only the voice roaming limit once. And i have 9 lines on two plans.
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Yes but our unlimited data means nothing if you can't get any data to begin with I love sprints plan but hate their service right now its unfortunate since I'm generally happy except for my data speeds
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I get sweet speeds on WiMax and good speeds on 3G. I'm sticking with Sprint since I routinely use more than 5GB of data each month. Every month a bit more. Soon I'll be over 6GB/mo.
Although, all bets are off if they don't get the Galaxy Nexus by Feb.

How much data does an average person used in a month? For all carriers?
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sitlet said:
It's why I'm switching to Verizon after the first of the year. They already have working 4g that gets 20mbps down.
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And their highest data plan can be used up in 30 minutes at that speed lol

sitlet said:
It's why I'm switching to Verizon after the first of the year. They already have working 4g that gets 20mbps down.
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Wait until there is network congestion and lets see the speeds then. Currently in Indianapolis I have way better 3G speeds then version does and no caps and 4G though not official as it's still under Clear but it's 11Mb down all day..
When Sprint launched 4G in St. Louis and Chicago the speeds were a lot faster then they are now that there is more users on the network. Also faster the speed the faster you will hit their cap and the faster you will be complaining because you have to pay the overages.
$30 a month for 2GB vs. $10 a month for unlimited. The numbers don't lie but like the old saying goes a fool and his money are soon parted.

I've used different radios and all that I'm by no means a noob my friend don't get me wrong if I could I would stay but unfortunately I'm at my best 1mbps and I only get that late at night during the day when I'm up 200k at best its maddening
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Dont feel so bad guys, some people have it worst. My best download speeds most of the time is around 48kbps on a good day I'll be at 129kbps
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Switching to verizon in feb when contract is up.