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Anyone knows about that?
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Why would it not be upgradeable? Of course it is. Whether Motorola decide to provide the upgrade or not is a different question.
Szadzik said:
Why would it not be upgradeable? Of course it is. Whether Motorola decide to provide the upgrade or not is a different question.
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That is our sad reality... I think that we will not see our mobiles running 2.3... motorola is playing a dirty game... =(
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We should. On Milestone 1 is CM7 by kabaldan. It is using Froyo kernel, but it is really Gingerbread. But currently, I think its bad with our MM2 comunity ...
While the hardware is capable, I think you'll find that you wont see a release any time soon from Motorola as it may effect sales of their newly released 2.3 units.
The locked boot loader is a great marketing tool, some might even agree that its one of the primary reasons it was implemented.
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That is our sad reality... I think that we will not see our mobiles running 2.3... motorola is playing a dirty game... =(
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I would not be as dramatic, the same as with MS1 we have to wait and see.
Well... maybe a Cyanogem release for all of us... Just maybe.. But that is fact: Motorola is using Android updates as a selling tool, doing few hardware or software improvements and putting the marketing focus in the Android version that comes onboard. Their Motoblur is so leggy that I had to flash another rom. That is one of the reasons why Milestone 1 is faster than Defy even on lower hardware. My next try will be a HTC or Sony Ericsson for sure.
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I would love to see the Gingerbread on the MS2 but all we know how is... Just take a look here - There's nothing even about the US Droid 2
Yeah, there was a thread on Motorola Forum, and the default answer for the 2.3 upgrade is this page, but it doesn't even show M2 or D2 update schedule. Very sad
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We need Cyanogen! Motorola f...g bastards!
pretty sure i read a quote on phandroid about a week ago from one of the motorola execs boasting that they will be one of the first to roll out gingerbread across their range.
people need to remember that an update isnt just one file that works on all phones. some phones have hundreds of variations. the upgrade has to be tested on all of them, then also approved by the individual network carriers for each region. a time consuming and complicated process. theyve got a lot more red tape to go through compared to freelance custom rom makers.
You mean what? MS2 gonne get the GB? Show us where did U read that. I want to see it in the flesh
I just read that Motorola wants to change its update policy. Make updates more frequent and sooner available.
Im with you when you say its a lot of work- but if they did what you describe they can just as well inform us and tell us an ETA. After all its not as hard as reiventing the wheel...
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I'd love to believe it guys...
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pretty sure i read a quote on phandroid about a week ago from one of the motorola execs boasting that they will be one of the first to roll out gingerbread across their range.
people need to remember that an update isnt just one file that works on all phones. some phones have hundreds of variations. the upgrade has to be tested on all of them, then also approved by the individual network carriers for each region. a time consuming and complicated process. theyve got a lot more red tape to go through compared to freelance custom rom makers.
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That is when the development standard needs to be more well defined and flexible. Its unbelievable that even our ooooollllld HTC Magic gained a 2.1 upgrade from HTC. What Motorola did to Quench (CLIQ) users wasn't cool..
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So we've have some devs recently that have either announced that they are stopping/slowing down support or have gone entirely... Anyone feel like this is the beginning of the end for our beloved X10?
This is the list so far:
1. Zdzihu (has slowed down support for his roms and haven't seen any activity from him in over 2 weeks)
2. Cobrato (has stopped development on his MIUI rom)
3. TripNraver (Has also stopped development on all his roms due to personal reasons)
4. Achotjan (has announced that he will be slowing down support as he will be/is a student)
5. Jerpelea (havent seen anything from him in awhile (or is he a part of the freeXperia team?)
*EDIT* Heard that he changed his name to FXP and is still very much active!
6. Rdannar (gone because his phone is broke)
7. Z!GZA!G (new and promising dev but phone broke as well )
We still have very active support from Wolfbreak, nasif619, spaarc and Erickwill in terms of roms and also from Doomlord, Thjap and Azuzu for their kernels and tweaks as well as some releases from other newcomers but I cant help but feel like we're in a bit of trouble...
Anybody else that I'm missing or didn't give credit to? let me know and I'll update the list.. Maybe we can come up with some way to get some devs back on out device or have more development going
unfortunately this is the circle of life.
Support goes to the new generation of devices.Just get over it.
We have more than we imagined when we bought x10.
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So we've have some devs recently that have either announced that they are stopping/slowing down support or have gone entirely... Anyone feel like this is the beginning of the end for our beloved X10?
This is the list so far:
1. Zdzihu (has slowed down support for his roms and haven't seen any activity from him in over 2 weeks)
2. Cobrato (has stopped development on his MIUI rom)
3. TripNraver (Has also stopped development on all his roms due to personal reasons)
4. Achotjan (has announced that he will be slowing down support as he will be/is a student)
5. Jp (havent seen anything from him in awhile (or is he a part of the freeXperia team?)
6. Rdannar (gone because his phone is broke)
7. Z!GZA!G (new and promising dev but phone broke as well )
We still have very active support from Wolfbreak, and Erickwill in terms of roms and also from Doomlord, Thjap and Azuzu for their kernels and tweaks as well as some releases from other newcomers but I cant help but feel like we're in a bit of trouble...
Anybody else that I'm missing or didn't give credit to? let me know and I'll update the list.. Maybe we can come up with some way to get some devs back on out device or have more development going
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1. Z is around, don't worry. Hopefully he's busy with providing a bootloader unlock (just dreamin' ) He never posted that much, just compare his post count with what he achieved for our x10. He's not someone who just talks and promises a lot, but when he's posting you can be almost sure that it's either a fix or a major breakthrough that is already prepared for public release
2. Cobrato said he won't continue developing MIUI ROMs because it's a lot of worked without sources (MIUI sources are not released to public). As far as I know he didn't say, he doesn't develop anymore. So let's see what'll come from him
3. Trip left xda by his own choice. If he also stopped dev'ing on modaco, that's sad, but personal reasons are more important than development. Btw. wasn't he planning to dev for the Sensation? Didn't see a single ROM from him there.
4. Achotjan slows own, right. That doesn't mean he's gone.
5. Jp - are you talking about Jerpelea? If so you must be kidding. He's the heart of the FreeXperia team, developing for all Xperia phones atm (X10/mini/pro, Arc, Play, mini/pro from 2011, ...). Recently he changed his name to FXP (FreeXPeria?) so don't get confused.
6. rdannar & Z!GZA!G: didn't know that. It's really a pitty. I hope they'll be back with new or repaired phones
Good to know that Z and FXP are still doing their thing! I'm a bit of a flashaholic so I get real sad when I dont see updates for a couple days... but you're right... it is the cycle of life and it will happen sooner or later.
Hopefully if bootloader gets unlocked, it will bring back a lot of dev activity
I doubt there is enough interest to unlock the bootloader now.
oddly enough we're at a weird point right now....
older phones are so old they are losing dev support, and also there are so many good newer phones that are so new causing them to have little dev support lol
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I doubt there is enough interest to unlock the bootloader now.
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that's exactly what I was thinking. And without a unlocked bootloader, there isn't much more the devs can do now anyways.
don't forget about doomlord!
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don't forget about doomlord!
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DooMLoRD is hyper-active and replies to all questions and requests daily.
He is also one of the best devs we have on the Xperia scene.
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DooMLoRD is hyper-active and replies to all questions and requests daily.
He is also one of the best devs we have on the Xperia scene.
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OO yeah!!
+1
Well devs are humans they have other things to do..
I feel that we already got too much support from developers on our X10 and even though things have naturally slowed down, there is still some notable activity.
And maybe it's time for normal users like us to read and research and make our own progress! Will be fun!
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I really think that the devs have done an amazing job with this phone, such so that I see no incentives in upgrading my phone to a newer model.. However is there really much more they can do? The only two things I see as missing from the software side is lack of a fully unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colour screen! But there's no real need for an unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colours is only going to happen if SE release source codes..
So really I feel that we've been lucky to have such amazing dev support for the last year. They've pushed this phone to its limits and without them what would we do!
All I can say is that they've done a great job and I hope to see some more of their work down the line!
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I really think that the devs have done an amazing job with this phone, such so that I see no incentives in upgrading my phone to a newer model.. However is there really much more they can do? The only two things I see as missing from the software side is lack of a fully unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colour screen! But there's no real need for an unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colours is only going to happen if SE release source codes..
So really I feel that we've been lucky to have such amazing dev support for the last year. They've pushed this phone to its limits and without them what would we do!
All I can say is that they've done a great job and I hope to see some more of their work down the line!
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FAIL!!
Bootloader unlocking is the main part...
I thought they where trying to get the 3x kernel ported to x10 could be wrong but thought they where close to getting it to work
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I thought they where trying to get the 3x kernel ported to x10 could be wrong but thought they where close to getting it to work
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Yes doom also told me abt that!!
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what is 3x kernel?
Yes, I'm afraid. The dev support for this phone is slowly diminishing. It's sad because they have achieved so much with this phone. At the same time, what else is there to do with this phone that hasn't been done already, or that doesn't need an unlocked bootloader. Hopefully Z comes out with some good news about the bootloader soon, that should keep people here a bit longer.
I hope that one or two devs stay till the end, I came in late in the game so I'm stuck with this phone on a contract until March 2013! D:
That being said, I do love this phone. It's not only my first smartphone, but it's my first ever phone. It has a strange sentimental value to me
Just my too sense.
its the kernel from when we got the gingerbread update. the custom kernel we have is based on the older kernel but our devs have fixed so it works on gingerbread
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ballubas said:
its the kernel from when we got the gingerbread update. the custom kernel we have is based on the older kernel but our devs have fixed so it works on gingerbread
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U r 100% wrong we got a patched old 2.1 kernel from se to work with 2.3 after gingerbread update they r tring to port a completly new 2.6.3x...
Go to settings and check ur kernel version is 2.6.29...
I think so...
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It seems according to Miui Netherlands that friday next week Miui will release roms based on ICS. Source and screenshots http://www.miui-nl.com/?p=2078.
Don`t knowi f it`s the real thing but we`ll see!
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It seems according to Miui Netherlands that friday next week Miui will release roms based on ICS. Source and screenshots http://www.miui-nl.com/?p=2078.
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I think it will be for xiaomi android phone only. There was not specified device yet.
i wonder from where they get half of their work.
But never mind that, i never liked their rom's so probably i won't be using this one also...
Just looks like this thread (i.e. facebook) regurgitated into a speculative blog post. In other words, pointless spam.
I don't think that the miui devs are able to make it work without the underlying stuff from the cm9 guys.
But i have to admit that im using the latest miui, because its just nice to look out without investing much time in tweaking the look'n'feel. I guess miui will loose a lot of fans when ics is out, becajse its so polished
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I don't think that the miui devs are able to make it work without the underlying stuff from the cm9 guys.
But i have to admit that im using the latest miui, because its just nice to look out without investing much time in tweaking the look'n'feel. I guess miui will loose a lot of fans when ics is out, becajse its so polished
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In the same boat, NEVER had any ambition to try miui. Last week I gave the latest galnet build a try and wow! Most people wont bother to try (like me) but if you have 20 minutes, do yourself a favor and nandroid and try out galnet or regular miui.
Maybe there WILL be MIUI for some devices next week - there already are some really good Custom-ICS-ROMs for some devices right now...
Unfortunately, development for our device will take a little longer - mic during calls, camera, etc. aren't working yet, so there's no working code MIUI Team can steal!
It's official, we are no longer supported.
Thank you to all DEVs that have been cooking & porting ROMs with the latest. Without you, my phone would be an expensive and out-of-date purchase.
Would I ever buy another Sammy phone? Maybe, they do seem to have great specs compare to others.
Cheers.
can you provide with the link of the info???
Agreed thanks devs for all the hard work! Thanks for giving us yummy ics
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can you provide with the link of the info???
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Here's one from Android Matters, http://www.droidmatters.com/news/galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab-will-not-get-ice-cream-sandwich-says-samsung/
I've read this on many other news websites, just Google it.
Is this the Death Blow?
Huffington Post - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1183578.html
ComputerWorld - http://blogs.computerworld.com/19513...urce=rss_blogs
Once again... This is news for the International Version of Galaxy S. Our beloved Vibrant was left out way back in the Froyo Days. The International at least got GB source released and even official for all but the Vibrant.
So sorry if this is rude but, this is no news to us Vibrant owners.
Samsung hasnt really made the final verdict yet.. thoae links you showed were later overturned by overwhelmingly bad response from the community.. sasumg said they might reconsider
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read the news today?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-includes-face-unlock-and-other-ics-features/
seems like samsung had (or has?) been working on some GB/ICS features for the i9000 series.
Can't complain, it's official software, whether it was leaked legitimately or not. This may be a very good sign for us.
GPS Fail
[ROM][07-JAN][4.0.3] ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) Passion v10.6 - Proof it can and does work just fine on Galaxy S hardware.
As far as leaving out Touch Whiz... I seriously doubt most would consider that a deal breaker . Leave it out if it won't fit. That reason is too lame to explain why official updates just stopped so early in this phone's life.
It is simple in my mind. Samsung screwed the pooch on 10,000,000 phones with the faulty GPS hardware they chose to stick into these phones. All roms, from the "official" garbage Samsung's put to the excellent roms from brilliant developers like the one above, can never seem to get the GPS in these phones working properly.
Samsung wants 10 million Galaxy S phones to just go away, so we'll stop asking them when they're finally going to fix the gps.
Samsung gave up on the Galaxy S long ago.
You know what, the devs here are crazy awesome. They've basically put a stable NON-TOUCHWIZ ICS on our devices (passion and a couple others but passion in particular) and I couldn't be more thankful as I am not well off and have to buy older devices to keep my android addiction fixed thanks devs for all that you do. We truly appreciate you guys
Sending my love from Texas <3
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Flash ICS passion and call it a day. GPS works, mute/unmute is being worked on.
I've been running it for a week and its silky smooth
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JettyLife said:
Flash ICS passion and call it a day. GPS works, mute/unmute is being worked on.
I've been running it for a week and its silky smooth
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So, I've been out of the vibrant loop for a bit. What is the best/most stable daily driver for you guys?
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So, I've been out of the vibrant loop for a bit. What is the best/most stable daily driver for you guys?
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The most stable rom for me (and not only me) is by far Bionix 1.3.1. After all the roms that i tried(2.3 or ics) Bionix is still the best with no bugs and working gps
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So, I've been out of the vibrant loop for a bit. What is the best/most stable daily driver for you guys?
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Passion still has a few bugs to work out, but otherwise it's the best rom I've ever had on my Vibrant.
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Passion still has a few bugs to work out, but otherwise it's the best rom I've ever had on my Vibrant.
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Yep.
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Remember that GPS works* for ICS but with an asterisk! Once your phone goes to deep sleep, GPS won't work until you reboot your phone and use it immediately (before any deep sleep). This is a highly accepted observation.
Support for phones
It's official, we are no longer supported.
Not supporting Sammy but.... I've found this problem (little or no support) with anything that is electronic a common practice. These companies are pushed buy sellers and yes the consumer to come up with the next 'latest and greatest'.
Appliances, TV's, modems, routers, computers... you name it, after months of support Sammy and the like, move along and let the buyer find resources to upgrade.
and so a +1 to your following statement and DEVs'
Thank you to all DEVs that have been cooking & porting ROMs with the latest. Without you, my phone would be an expensive and out-of-date purchase.
+1
Thanks for all the replies... Going to check out a couple of the recommended ROMs tonight. Thanks again!
Sign the petition!
You can sign the petition and see if we can get ICS on the Galaxy S!
change.org/petitions/samsung-were-asking-you-bring-the-galaxy-s-users-an-update
Read this article about Samsung releasing an "update pack" for Galaxy S users...
androidpolice.com/2012/01/07/samsung-galaxy-s-value-pack-update-leaked-brings-minor-ui-changes-face-unlock-and-more/
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You can sign the petition and see if we can get ICS on the Galaxy S!
change.org/petitions/samsung-were-asking-you-bring-the-galaxy-s-users-an-update
Read this article about Samsung releasing an "update pack" for Galaxy S users...
androidpolice.com/2012/01/07/samsung-galaxy-s-value-pack-update-leaked-brings-minor-ui-changes-face-unlock-and-more/
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You mean this Petition?
News Sources are in Post #4 and I-9000 "Value Pack" story is in Post #6
Also I have been pounding AndroidPolice (also in Post #6)in both the Val-Pack story's comments and also on G+. I have seen several people from the G+ article +1'ing me and some of the names i have also seen on the petition's comments. So it is working.
Edit: Just went in and we are at 1132 signatures. That is a little under 100 today alone.
This morning I thought something like "Everyone's buying the OX or the OS and the DHD is dying in history and I didn't even have it for 2 years. ".
But some minutes ago I looked into the Android dev forum again and suddenly... Trickdroid!
A friend had told me many stories about Trickdroid, how good and fast and everything it is and I just wanted to have it also. And now we have it!
Then went back to the forum - another new ROM!
Well, now I think that the DHD is having its second spring.
What do you think about it? Will the DHD ever die or will it become a phone like the HD2?
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I have had an Inspire 4G(Desire HD for ATT) for a year and a half now. Thanks to the devs I can run Jelly Bean and ICS with sense on it. This phone may not live as long as the G1 but thanks to the devs here it will last alot longer than HTC would have allowed.:victory:
I have the same opinion about a phone. When you buy it make sure there is a XDA developer that work hard on it. If not is a dead or boring phone(see Iphone).
When DHD devs will leave us, than you can consider that the last days of this phone are coming.
Thanks again to all the devs that keep this phone alive.
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I have the same opinion about a phone. When you buy it make sure there is a XDA developer that work hard on it. If not is a dead or boring phone(see Iphone).
When DHD devs will leave us, than you can consider that the last days of this phone are coming.
Thanks again to all the devs that keep this phone alive.
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That's exactly what I am thinking.
The DHD will die when the last Dev stopped working on it.
I hope that won't happen for a very long time, cause I really like that phone.
Not for now. I just got my inspire earlier this year and if I learn to dev well enough, I'll try my best to keep it going.
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I doubt it. The Inspire is still being sold by ATT. It has enough RAM and CPU and an HSPA+ radio so even a year from now it would still be an average mid-low range device. And new economy phones are still being released with lower specs than ours (albeit they have official ICS on them).
i am a g8 fan of stable roms . . . . So i used only ARHD. . . .
I was g8ly dissapointd when Arhd stopped updating and no new stable roms were there. . .
But yesterday i saw trickdroid. . . Stablest rom. . . Thank god. . . .
Now am damn happy. . . .
The HTC Desire HD is still going strong. Although I'm curious about Windows Phone 8 or the Samsung Galaxy Note II for my next phone, I'm still keeping and intend to keep the ROM list up-to-date for our Desire HD's. It's a quick way of keeping an eye on development.
One day it will .... but until then , ENJOY with the latest version of Android 4.1.1 on your DHD
I also thought about it before all this wave of ICS Sense ROMs,
Its a great opportunity to say thanks to Virtuous team that actually saved our community.
Without their amazing work of the kernel 3.0 we would all be still in GB or in a buggy ICS ROM that no one updates,
They totally freed the ICS Chakra that HTC couldn't do,
And now the water flows like a huge river.
I hope it will last for at least until we get a perfect ROM (Revolution should close that deal).
I like many thought the DHD would be more and more a dinosaur as time goes by with HTC dropping updates. However HTC did me a favour by doing this as it made me root my phone to try some of the great roms available here on XDA. Now my phone has a new lease of life thanks to all the hard working devs here!
I certainly will be keeping my DHD, one of the best phones (IMO) available and it can still hold it's own with the newer 'big boys' :good:
i believe its going to continue until android 5.0 or even 6.0 lolol
Having owned a Desire HD and now the One X (Tegra), I agree with most of you. The DHD has the hardware to support AOSP/CM builds for the next few iterations of Android yet to come. With the bloat of HTC Sense, its obvious that the DHD struggles. Thats why I exclusively used AOSP & CM builds.
If you read the XDA Portal, you would've seen recently that the G1, yes the G1, has JB. There are a good few issues. But it shows that with aging devices, not all is lost.
The key point is to enjoy our devices today, for what they have now, not for something that is not guaranteed for the future. For those who have recently got the Desire HD, its still a great handset. I enjoyed everyday of owning mine.
TL;DR - They DHD will die, but not for a long while yet.
I think the next era is coming to this epic device
Is Sense4 the last thing we can have?
No! Our great Devs is now working on Sense4.1/4.5 and it seems promising
BTW capy is back!!
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BTW capy is back!!
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Really?
Inviato dal mio HTC Desire HD With Beats Audio
Still no signs – Rom development is on fire, so enjoy your phone
Where can i find the trickdroid thread? I cant found it anywhere...
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Where can i find the trickdroid thread? I cant found it anywhere...
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It has been marked as private. The mods need to review the thread.
For more details look into the DHD Q&A.
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Ditti4 said:
It has been marked as private. The mods need to review the thread.
For more details look into the DHD Q&A.
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damn...after waiting for a long time i got a stable ROM....now its private.........:crying: :crying: :crying:
EDIT-----WE NEED TRICK DROID BACK.............................
this is a request to moderators
mark it public as soon as possible pls.....................
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Where can i find the trickdroid thread? I cant found it anywhere...
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