Anyone knows about that?
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Anyone knows about that?
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Why would it not be upgradeable? Of course it is. Whether Motorola decide to provide the upgrade or not is a different question.
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Why would it not be upgradeable? Of course it is. Whether Motorola decide to provide the upgrade or not is a different question.
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That is our sad reality... I think that we will not see our mobiles running 2.3... motorola is playing a dirty game... =(
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We should. On Milestone 1 is CM7 by kabaldan. It is using Froyo kernel, but it is really Gingerbread. But currently, I think its bad with our MM2 comunity ...
While the hardware is capable, I think you'll find that you wont see a release any time soon from Motorola as it may effect sales of their newly released 2.3 units.
The locked boot loader is a great marketing tool, some might even agree that its one of the primary reasons it was implemented.
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That is our sad reality... I think that we will not see our mobiles running 2.3... motorola is playing a dirty game... =(
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I would not be as dramatic, the same as with MS1 we have to wait and see.
Well... maybe a Cyanogem release for all of us... Just maybe.. But that is fact: Motorola is using Android updates as a selling tool, doing few hardware or software improvements and putting the marketing focus in the Android version that comes onboard. Their Motoblur is so leggy that I had to flash another rom. That is one of the reasons why Milestone 1 is faster than Defy even on lower hardware. My next try will be a HTC or Sony Ericsson for sure.
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I would love to see the Gingerbread on the MS2 but all we know how is... Just take a look here - There's nothing even about the US Droid 2
Yeah, there was a thread on Motorola Forum, and the default answer for the 2.3 upgrade is this page, but it doesn't even show M2 or D2 update schedule. Very sad
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We need Cyanogen! Motorola f...g bastards!
pretty sure i read a quote on phandroid about a week ago from one of the motorola execs boasting that they will be one of the first to roll out gingerbread across their range.
people need to remember that an update isnt just one file that works on all phones. some phones have hundreds of variations. the upgrade has to be tested on all of them, then also approved by the individual network carriers for each region. a time consuming and complicated process. theyve got a lot more red tape to go through compared to freelance custom rom makers.
You mean what? MS2 gonne get the GB? Show us where did U read that. I want to see it in the flesh
I just read that Motorola wants to change its update policy. Make updates more frequent and sooner available.
Im with you when you say its a lot of work- but if they did what you describe they can just as well inform us and tell us an ETA. After all its not as hard as reiventing the wheel...
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I'd love to believe it guys...
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pretty sure i read a quote on phandroid about a week ago from one of the motorola execs boasting that they will be one of the first to roll out gingerbread across their range.
people need to remember that an update isnt just one file that works on all phones. some phones have hundreds of variations. the upgrade has to be tested on all of them, then also approved by the individual network carriers for each region. a time consuming and complicated process. theyve got a lot more red tape to go through compared to freelance custom rom makers.
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That is when the development standard needs to be more well defined and flexible. Its unbelievable that even our ooooollllld HTC Magic gained a 2.1 upgrade from HTC. What Motorola did to Quench (CLIQ) users wasn't cool..
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now that motorola is releasing the Droid x2?
Both phones have the tegra 2 chip and motoblur but the droid x2 is releasing with gingerbread out of the box. If motorola has developed GB for this release, maybe a GB update for the Atrix isn't far behind.
Just trying to keep my hopes up.
I would tend to agree. Is it launching with 2.3.3 or 2.3.4?
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Says here 2.2.2
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Where did you see Gingerbread?
What the hell Motorola?! Why would you release a device with 2.2.2 when ICS is right around the corner?
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What the hell Motorola?! Why would you release a device with 2.2.2 when ICS is right around the corner?
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I think you just answered your own question right there. Why invest more in QA and further development in "skinning" and slowing down 2.3 with Motoblur, if ICS is truly coming soon. However, it's Motorola and we all know their stance on customers' demands.
They have done a nice job in customer response for the atrix
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The latest from the official Moto forums gives some hope for a timely GB release:
juniorsgv: i like the refer to link by forum manager. (later this year for 2.3), quarter 4, ice cream supposed to be released. so basically we will be behind everyone else. terrible for first android device they touted to be most powerful and dual core. i won't be buying motorola in the future after this one.
Mark (Forums Manager): You're probably referring to previous posts that included a link here. I think you're pessimistically looking at the "later this year". Soon as we get closer to the release date I anticipate we'll put up better information on our Android Upgrade News page as well.
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I hope Mark means it. I'm dying for some GB or ICS action!
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Well... he does seem to usually try to keep everyone informed in more of a *hint hint* way, and less of a "you're fired" way.... so i think it'd probably be a good bet that he means it. I mean, he did try to inform us as much as he could about the HSUPA update coming without flat out saying it.
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http://phandroid.com/2011/05/12/mot...release-qhd-display-and-gingerbread-on-board/
"and an interface that seems to suggest the phone will launch with Gingerbread (Android 2.3)"
They are only guessing. No reason to get too excited
http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1 click the link people like it and comment on it.
I have seen first hand proof of this working. I had an evo 3d. Htc decided all futre devices would have locked bootliaders well that made alot of people angry. Someone posted a thread on xda suggesting we let htc know that is not gna fly. So it turnd out thousands of people got on there facebook wall and twitter. Guess what the next day htc released a statement saying that they wanted too keep there coustamers happy and that the bootloader would be unlocked. They were. Id like to be able too have a device and not have too get a new one juzt because moto or htc or sammy wants too put them out constantly get people too buy them and then ditch them and out out another. The atrix is 100 percent capable of runing ics and theres no excuae for it l not too recieve it just because moto wants people too buy new devices every couple months. I know many many people feel the same way well as i said we have the power too change that if people would stop bickering and take it seriously. And also if moto started supporting devices longer not just bug fixes but the new android flavors. Id definately make my next device a moto it would do nothing but benefit them
try and get as many people as you can too do the same. It will make a difference.
I'd wait until ICS is released. As things stand today, Atrix has the latest Android version available.
Yes that is correct how ever the atrix 2 is not a good sign for us. And it is a good idea too voice our oppinion before they stop supporting our phone if we do after really wouldnt have the same effect in my oppinion
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Yes that is correct how ever the atrix 2 is not a good sign for us. And it is a good idea too voice our oppinion before they stop supporting our phone if we do after really wouldnt have the same effect in my oppinion
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Yeah but the atrix 2 is a stepdown compared to atrix 1!
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I'd wait until ICS is released. As things stand today, Atrix has the latest Android version available.
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It's running 2.3.7? Thats news to me, also have people not seen the leaked videos? It appears to have all on screen buttons. Like honeycomb. Not sure it would work on the atrix. The screen is already small enough
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The Atrix is really close to being officially supported by CM. Once ICS is released and the CM team makes their latest version (will be CM9) it will have ICS and will work with with the Atrix.
re: official CYyanogen support, do you know this officially or are you speculating?
not being rude, genuinely want to know
I have no doubt that the Atrix "could" handle ICS.
The Nexus S is rumored to get ICS, and that phone has half the muscle of the Atrix...
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.... i don't see what the idea of potentially spamming their facebook page will do (Didn't actually go to their facebook page... just read that's where your link was going to redirect). The phone is only 7 months old.... i'm fairly certain they're WELL AWARE that we want ICS. I mean wtf... look how much flak they got from every moron in the world when the Atrix was still running Froyo.
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.... i don't see what the idea of potentially spamming their facebook page will do (Didn't actually go to their facebook page... just read that's where your link was going to redirect). The phone is only 7 months old.... i'm fairly certain they're WELL AWARE that we want ICS. I mean wtf... look how much flak they got from every moron in the world when the Atrix was still running Froyo.
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They got tons of flak for promising gingerbread for the Motorola Milestone (gsm version of OG Droid) and then saying nevermind. Mind you, this was merely 1 year after the milestone came out as well. Gingerbread for the Atrix was inevitable. Not giving the Atrix gingerbread would be a PR disaster. What people fail to realise about a CM port of ICS to the Atrix is that if Moto decides to EOL the Atrix after only a year with no ICS upgrade, you lose out on updated drivers, kernel, and baseband. Sure we'd have ICS, but it won't run as well as a phone that natively has ICS.
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They got tons of flak for promising gingerbread for the Motorola Milestone (gsm version of OG Droid) and then saying nevermind. Mind you, this was merely 1 year after the milestone came out as well. Gingerbread for the Atrix was inevitable. Not giving the Atrix gingerbread would be a PR disaster. What people fail to realise about a CM port of ICS to the Atrix is that if Moto decides to EOL the Atrix after only a year with no ICS upgrade, you lose out on updated drivers, kernel, and baseband. Sure we'd have ICS, but it won't run as well as a phone that natively has ICS.
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You mean Froyo for the Milestone. They had to release it since they advertised flash on the box.
However the Froyo update basically killed the Milestone. Even Motorola put out a disclaimer that basically said the upgrade may cause performance issues.
The memory on the Milestone was perfect for eclair, but Froyo gave it a brain freeze...
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I have no doubt that the Atrix "could" handle ICS.
The Nexus S is rumored to get ICS, and that phone has half the muscle of the Atrix...
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Half the muscle? The humming bird chipset is far superior than the tegra. Just not clocked as fast. And the exynos chipset blows the tegra 2 out of the water.
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Half the muscle? The humming bird chipset is far superior than the tegra. Just not clocked as fast. And the exynos chipset blows the tegra 2 out of the water.
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Still the Atrix has the extra core which is supposed to be optimized in ICS, plus double the ram over the Nexus S...
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I was not implying spamm there pages i meant voice our oppinion let moto know theres alot of people who like this device and we want them to continue its support. And if they do that would really be. In there favor id most likely choise moto for my next device
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You mean Froyo for the Milestone. They had to release it since they advertised flash on the box.
However the Froyo update basically killed the Milestone. Even Motorola put out a disclaimer that basically said the upgrade may cause performance issues.
The memory on the Milestone was perfect for eclair, but Froyo gave it a brain freeze...
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Not so much
Froyo runs great on my Milestone, I heard GB makes it very sluggish
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Not so much
Froyo runs great on my Milestone, I heard GB makes it very sluggish
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Froyo was the reason why I sold my Milestone. Eclair was smoothly, and for whatever reason I could never flash back to Eclair. Every time I tried going back, I got forced closed errors everywhere.
If the Milestone had 512mb of ram, I probably would still be using it since I really liked the build quality of that phone...
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I guess Milestones handled the OS differently than other
Guys. The atrix is getting ICS.
Chill
god if ics is any better than the ics launcher in the market ill bee in heaven
cause this launcher is sweet
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If only all manufacturers could be as awesome as SE <3
Excellent news
Well done Sony (Ericsson) !
Seeing as I have an unlocked/unbranded handset, hopefully won't be too long a wait either
Love you Sony Ericsson, I have an unbranded UK r800i model so I'm hoping the wait isn't that long...
To be honest I never expected them to announce this until 2020.
Great!
Now lets hope Verizon gets it before they are up to Yellow fudge cake.
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Great!
Now lets hope Verizon gets it before they are up to Yellow fudge cake.
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If Verizon releases ICS for the Play, then I will personally donate my unlocked device to OP.
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Wasnt ICS for the Play confirmed much earlier?
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Wasnt ICS for the Play confirmed much earlier?
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Apparently it was confirmed and then unconfirmed and no-one knew for sure if we'd get it or not, now we do
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If Verizon releases ICS for the Play, then I will personally donate my unlocked device to OP.
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What makes you think VZW won't release ICS?
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What makes you think VZW won't release ICS?
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The fact that it took them months to distribute an update. The low sales. The lack of official SE support. And the low interest SE has with giving support for the R800x.
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What makes you think VZW won't release ICS?
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Poor sales, and the fact that they just announced their releasing the source for 2.3.3 after this long. Pretty sure VZ could care less about ICS for the XP.
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It's interesting that they will be updating the low end (and low res) devices like the minis and the Live. There are lots of apps which don't support those resolutions anymore, isn't there?
That's one of the big reasons I think the American system is flawed, regarding to their (your) own different models of the same phone. In the end it's you as the customer that has to pay the price.
Not to say its confirmed you won't get it either. But doesn't sound like you have much faith in them (Verizon).
I realize this can be an issue in the rest of the world too depending on what manufacturer you have on the phone and their policy of updates (or lack of them). But it's not quite the same as companies demanding different hardware and stuff for their model of the same phone creating even more issues for customers.
VZW managed to get Froyo to the LG Ally, one of the worst Android phones, so I think we will get it. Pretty positive about that, if not, there is always XDA
Never expected "Live" to get it. But oh well, We won't get 4.1, thats the time I flash a custom rom.
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Never expected "Live" to get it. But oh well, We won't get 4.1, thats the time I flash a custom rom.
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We dont even now what 4.1 will be so if it will be an update like 3.0 to 3.1 we will get it.
Anyone know the pro and cons of using ics over gingerbread?
Lol, Ics isn't even released in the Nexus yet. Give it some time to see how it works in real life. Eventually the idea is that Ics is an improvement over Gingerbread, so there shouldn't be any cons.
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You may be wondering why all devices aren’t being upgraded to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich). Here’s the deal. We work very closely with Google and cell phone carriers for every software update. And, obviously we want the new release to improve our devices. If we determine that can’t be done—well then, we’re not able to upgrade that particular device.
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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You didn't bought a lapdock recently at iandroid ?
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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me too I won't install motorola's buggy update I like cm9
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It will be Jelly Bean by the time they release ICS.
Just motobabling to excuse their poor post-sale support.
Only sthing stopping me from using CM8 as a daily, is the camera issues. Video FC is still an issue i hear.
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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Well the deal for them is that XDA Developpers is actually some kind of post-sale support for most of their products... And yes, they could release the drivers so the developpers can make better ROMs, I'm currently waiting for an update to install a custom Blur ICS ROM that could support my Lapdock, I'm not as angry as you but I only own the phone since 2 months, and it saved me from Windows Mobile's nightmare, also I'm waiting for a TRUE GPU driver for ICS (Some 2D apps just don't work). I totally agree with you Motorola sucks on this point.
They should admit they're not able to develop as much as jokersax
Me too. I wont updating when they release the official update. I prefer to wait for CM9.
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Lol, but there still will be hundreds of newbs who will update to it and get wonders crappy service and bricks...
That's a good thing.. as long as they come here and tell us about it lol
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If any other company said that, it would be valid. But lets ignore Motorola's track record for a second. Why the hell arent the Droid 3 and Droid X2 on that list? They're both effectively the same phone as the Atrix but with 512mb of ram. Even the cut ram should be enough to run considering the Nexus S and One V run it pretty well.
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If any other company said that, it would be valid. But lets ignore Motorola's track record for a second. Why the hell arent the Droid 3 and Droid X2 on that list? They're both effectively the same phone as the Atrix but with 512mb of ram. Even the cut ram should be enough to run considering the Nexus S and One V run it pretty well.
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Probably the same reason the the Bravo is only 2.2.1 and the Defy is 2.2.2 and Defy+ is 2.3.6. Oh and they both have 512mb of ram, same processor, and the biggest difference between the three is the camera module. Should I mention that the Droid2, DroidX, Cliq2, Milestone2, Bravo, Defy, and Defy+ are all almost the same phones with different camera modules, different radios, minor differences, and some happen to have a hw keyboard? They can all boot each others custom roms with some tweaking.
Its so we'll buy newer, better phones with updated systems.
And it is enough ram. My Bravo runs CM9 pretty damn smooth with almost no issues other than some flash problems. Damn locked bootloaders.
I'm putting the blame on MotoBlur. If the Nexus S can handle ICS, then the Atrix most certainly can...
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The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development. Release the drivers and fire the entire software team or move them to Android development.
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The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development. Release the drivers and fire the entire software team or move them to Android development.
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Wait really.. That being true, ill go on the assumption that it is without googling it because I've no reason to doubt you, you're totally right. Unless google sees potential in this blur thing, and since they have their own social network they probably don't. But isn't the whole point of blur social integration? What's googles solution to that or do they feel its a non issue?
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The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development.
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Blur will go away now Microsoft has reamed Motorola in court over it. Might take some time, but I don't see Google/Moto paying Microsoft anything in the long term to keep using it in the US.
Aww, but I liked the social parts of Blur! I also hated everything else about it. Don't suggest any third-party widgets, though.
this is a joke, even my htc tattoo is running on ics which has only 256 mb ram and 512 mb rom
Have you guys read? http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-Canada-no-Ice-Cream-Sandwich-for-the-Optimus-2X_id32715
This can be bad news for us. Remember how LG said that the O2X will get ICS in Q2 2012, and then delayed it to Q3 2012? Seems like its no longer getting it. The Optimus 2X is also a Tegra based phone, so who knows what might happen to our scheduled update...
What do you guys think? Probably Nvidia's fault?
Fingers crossed that our update is still on schedule and that we'll see a leak soon.
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Indeed if Nvidia is involved in this cancelling that would be a bad news... I tried getting some news on Twitter about the ICS update...
"Rollouts begin in Q3 2012" SERIOUSLY ?! :silly:
I think Motorola and other firms should make a step forward for their community and give them some more news... That's a pain not even knowing if we're getting official ICS or not !
HTC did the same thing to Desire with less than a month to go. I'm tellin ya...don't be surprised.
About two more months to go. Motorola might cancelled it at the last minute.
That would be the worst news we could have... But the Atrix is the first device having the Webtop feature... If we can get Nvidia drivers from other devices and Webtop 3.0 from the Razr or any other device it could work with some settings. The new Webtop is just a tablet mode and a video output switch, we can still hope having this feature even on community ROMs.
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lg did not dropped ics for o2x. that statement affects only the lg-p999, the canadian version of o2x. this was discussed at the optimus forum here.
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Thanks for clarifying. That means we still got hope.
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Canadian carriers are scummy like that. Sign a 3 year contract (only way to get a discount on a phone), and get a whole 7 months of support.
I would happy even if Motorola said... only a vanilla Google experience will be made available, no webtop, nothing extra, take it or leave it.
I'd take it with no complaints,
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As much as webtop is a good idea, it was HDMI mirroring, or the lack of it that surprised me about this phone.
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jersonf said:
I would happy even if Motorola said... only a vanilla Google experience will be made available, no webtop, nothing extra, take it or leave it.
I'd take it with no complaints,
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I'd take it too, but I'd love to have FP sensor support, even on an AOSP ROM!
but the ATT atrix will. intl may not get it tho...
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I'd take it too, but I'd love to have FP sensor support, even on an AOSP ROM!
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atrix will get ics, and if any other tegra2 phone get JB, i dont doubt it help the atrix to get official jb too. atrix is one of the most known phones from motorola, so they may be giving it more love than to other brothers of im. lol
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but the ATT atrix will. intl may not get it tho...
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atrix will get ics, and if any other tegra2 phone get JB, i dont doubt it help the atrix to get official jb too. atrix is one of the most known phones from motorola, so they may be giving it more love than to other brothers of im. lol
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guidoido004, I remember you have a friend who works for company which works with motorola. Do you know the status of ICS upgrade for Atrix?
Im really hope official come out totally
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jersonf said:
I would happy even if Motorola said... only a vanilla Google experience will be made available, no webtop, nothing extra, take it or leave it.
I'd take it with no complaints,
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Heck, i would even take the drivers only, so that joker and the devs here can make their maigc.