a theory I would like some experts to chime in on - G2 and Desire Z General

I have a theory that Ti Backup or any backing up of apps to save re-installing time when changing to a new ROM is a bad plan. I know you can do it no problem, and that it is a great time saver, but I have a strong feeling that this ultimately results in an unstable phone with mysterious force closes etc.
Even though it's a real pain, I think you are always better off reinstalling your apps from scratch after changing to a new ROM and wiping caches.
what say you?

WTF? said:
I have a theory that Ti Backup or any backing up of apps to save re-installing time when changing to a new ROM is a bad plan. I know you can do it no problem, and that it is a great time saver, but I have a strong feeling that this ultimately results in an unstable phone with mysterious force closes etc.
Even though it's a real pain, I think you are always better off reinstalling your apps from scratch after changing to a new ROM and wiping caches.
what say you?
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I'm no expert, but I agree with you. I have love TiBa, but I haven't ever batch restored all my apps/data at once. I've used it very selectively and never had a problem. I also use it for some of the other options it has... like detaching apps from "my apps" in the Market, for instance. But overall, yes, I think you're right, and it seems like common sense. For me, the point of using TiBa to create complete backups is simply to know that I have them, just in case... this is just my experience, of course...

I use my backup root... Works quite well, but i do not restore any apps which need superuser or something like that. You can handle the force close by fixing permission after restoring apps... But yeah a fresh install seems to be better
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I make backups of apps with Ti but only use it reinstall selected app data if necessary.
Made the noob mistake of restoring system data once but live and learn.
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Reinstalling your apps + data is not the problem. it's reinstalling system data that is the culprit. part of going into a new rom is that the system is set up differently. It is fine if you just restore the apps if they're all functioning normally.
You actually can also filter your batch operations so that you can install specific files and also have it back those files up on a schedule (daily/weekly/monthly/cyclic/etc).
TLDR: reinstalling apps + data is not bad. Reinstalling system data is bad.

mputtr said:
Reinstalling your apps + data is not the problem. it's reinstalling system data that is the culprit. part of going into a new rom is that the system is set up differently. It is fine if you just restore the apps if they're all functioning normally.
You actually can also filter your batch operations so that you can install specific files and also have it back those files up on a schedule (daily/weekly/monthly/cyclic/etc).
TLDR: reinstalling apps + data is not bad. Reinstalling system data is bad.
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Obviously, restoring system data across ROMs is just plain wrong, but even restoring user app/data can be problematic. Just recently I read a post from a user who was regularly restoring user apps/data after ROM updates... the person started experiencing minor glitches with their device, performed a factory reset, re flashed, reinstalled everything from scratch, and the issues resolved themselves... I can't count the times I've read posts like this. Of course, these same users got along just fine for a time before the problems developed, so I agree with you when you said restoring user apps/data is "not bad." But over time, it might not be good either.

WTF? said:
I have a theory that Ti Backup or any backing up of apps to save re-installing time when changing to a new ROM is a bad plan. I know you can do it no problem, and that it is a great time saver, but I have a strong feeling that this ultimately results in an unstable phone with mysterious force closes etc.
Even though it's a real pain, I think you are always better off reinstalling your apps from scratch after changing to a new ROM and wiping caches.
what say you?
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Calling it a theory would imply that you are going to present some evidence supporting it, which you have not. No evidence, its just a hypothesis.

Well obviously by copying data back and forth regularly you increase the potential for corruption etc to occur, whatever the cause. Is that not just a given? But unless you're doing it an unnecessary amount of times I shouldn't think you would run into noticeable trouble.

I always sucessfully batch restore my apps and app data (with Titanium Backup Pro) after a format of system and never have run into any issues.
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Ditamae said:
Obviously, restoring system data across ROMs is just plain wrong, but even restoring user app/data can be problematic. Just recently I read a post from a user who was regularly restoring user apps/data after ROM updates... the person started experiencing minor glitches with their device, performed a factory reset, re flashed, reinstalled everything from scratch, and the issues resolved themselves... I can't count the times I've read posts like this. Of course, these same users got along just fine for a time before the problems developed, so I agree with you when you said restoring user apps/data is "not bad." But over time, it might not be good either.
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I have been doing this since the old winmo days and have not had a single problem with it. There's a reason you do multiple copies which makes life a little easier.
I personally have not had any problems over the past 4 years of using titanium across winmo to android. So I disagree with the OP's theory. Backing up app/data wont make it go bad over time. It's not a consumable so it doesn't matter how many times you back it up or over how many years you do. if you keep your app updated and you back it up, it wont go bad over time.

G1ForFun said:
I always sucessfully batch restore my apps and app data (with Titanium Backup Pro) after a format of system and never have run into any issues.
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Ditto for me, though these days I just upgrade the same ROM to new versions and only wipe the caches.
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mputtr said:
I have been doing this since the old winmo days and have not had a single problem with it. There's a reason you do multiple copies which makes life a little easier.
I personally have not had any problems over the past 4 years of using titanium across winmo to android. So I disagree with the OP's theory. Backing up app/data wont make it go bad over time. It's not a consumable so it doesn't matter how many times you back it up or over how many years you do. if you keep your app updated and you back it up, it wont go bad over time.
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As I said, I've never had an issue using it selectively, but I was hesitant to rely on it too heavily. I need to bear in mind that for every user who reports a problem, there are usually many more that get along just fine. Thanks for the input.

G1ForFun said:
I always sucessfully batch restore my apps and app data (with Titanium Backup Pro) after a format of system and never have run into any issues.
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Zero problems here..in fact it has fixed problems for me in the past I love TB

the point is that backed up apps and data don't just go bad over time. There's a reason why you make multiple back ups.

At the end of the day, fresh > backup

Unless you have important or critical data, then backup>fresh. I have clients cry because they didn't have a backup at home or on their phone...just saying, grown men and women crying because they never thought about spending some cash for peace of mind. My backups on my phone and home network have come in handy multiple times! Backups to me are indispensible...

I use mybackup pro.
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On the other hand its fun just to back up the apks of stuff you like on your cpu, so you can make a new phone experience when you make a big change--say by using a dif combo of apps/themes.
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G1ForFun said:
I always sucessfully batch restore my apps and app data (with Titanium Backup Pro) after a format of system and never have run into any issues.
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+1
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Yeah i think so too. Because ti backup sometimes restores apps but the apps FCs :/ i dont like ti backup...
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Related

New "improved" ROM. Anyone try it?

Just saw a tweet from DLife about an improved Froyo 2.2. Anyone try it yet? I'm not sure I want to do a wipe if its not really that much improved.
EDIT: link http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/02/download-new-android-2-2-droid-incredible-build/
EDIT EDIT: My recommendation is that you don't use this build. It lacks the stock wallpapers except for the red swirl. It lacks the stock ringtones, AND I'm not sure it even has Flash 10.1. Some sites don't seem to work now that I installed it and I'm reinstalling the previous 2.2 leak instead of this one.
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Im steering clear from it. I have made a stable ROM based off the first leak, used skyraider2, amd used the leak itself, amd there is nothong wrong with the firsf.
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jdkoreclipse said:
Im steering clear from it. I have made a stable ROM based off the first leak, used skyraider2, amd used the leak itself, amd there is nothong wrong with the firsf.
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So far I agree.... Not worth wiping out everything I've done with the first leak! Unless someone can convince me otherwise.
I do have one question though.... Shouldn't there be some way to update the first leak with a new version in the future without wiping the phone? They should have mostly all the same base right?
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So far I agree.... Not worth wiping out everything I've done with the first leak! Unless someone can convince me otherwise.
I do have one question though.... Shouldn't there be some way to update the first leak with a new version in the future without wiping the phone? They should have mostly all the same base right?
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Import to the htc basic kitchen and change wipe status
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I'd be more than happy to keep doing "upgrades" if that was the way it worked but these really aren't upgrades; they're new installs. Wiping each time is painful.
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I'd be more than happy to keep doing "upgrades" if that was the way it worked but these really aren't upgrades; they're new installs. Wiping each time is painful.
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Thats why when i make roms, i try to make them flash overs.
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jdkoreclipse said:
Im steering clear from it. I have made a stable ROM based off the first leak, used skyraider2, amd used the leak itself, amd there is nothong wrong with the firsf.
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+100. I've worked out all the bugs that affect my daily usage: 3g hotspot working, no 0's on my Gmail, still pulling 1250-1300+ on Quadrant, market/browser work beautifully. I'll need to see some solid improvements/benchmarks to make it "worth" switching.
Though for posterity's sake, for those concerned about wiping, since it's a 2.2 -> 2.2, I would think a proper titanium restore would work without much issue, app-wise.
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I am the opposite ... I see no reason to apply a beta radio and a beta pre-release (even one from yesterday) at this point, especially if its going to be a pain in the butt due to radio reflash and app reinstall. Would just as soon wait in hopes that unrEVOked can root the real OTA. Would MUCH rather go thru the pain and effort (and danger) using VZW's release.
Have you gotten Ti backup to work with 2.2? I had issues. It worked to restore my apps from 2.1, but since switching to 2.2 I could do a backup. I remember there being some issue but not what it was. I haven't tried again since.
As for the upgrade, I'm only using the stock Froyo rom and I've found some bugs in it when using Seesmic and Astro amongst others. I think they need to upgrade for 2.2 compatibility before I upgrade the rom.
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Just installed the latest ota. All if well. No problems like the last rom. No lame patches and bugfixes neccessary. Works good. Titanium backuped everything fine. Took me 5 minutes after full wipe to have all my stuff back to normal.
None?
Check your paid market apps and make sure they all show up
Honestly77 said:
Just installed the latest ota. All if well. No problems like the last rom. No lame patches and bugfixes neccessary. Works good. Titanium backuped everything fine. Took me 5 minutes after full wipe to have all my stuff back to normal.
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Did you do a "Backup all user apps + system data" and then "Restore missing apps + all system data" or did you just do apps? I'm new to best practices of Titanium Backup... Thanks!
I just do app+app data. No system crap...it isn't that hard for me to add the 4 icons and clock to the screen and setup some ringer preferences...even with all that it took me 5 minutes. Some people may have insane screens full of widgets and apps...mines pretty simple. Also I already fixed my build.prop Plus I only have 2 paid apps...titanium and phonemypc and I already pulled the apks from my phone to install manually without the market anyway. So I dunno.
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I just do app+app data. No system crap...it isn't that hard for me to add the 4 icons and clock to the screen and setup some ringer preferences...even with all that it took me 5 minutes. Some people may have insane screens full of widgets and apps...mines pretty simple. Also I already fixed my build.prop Plus I only have 2 paid apps...titanium and phonemypc and I already pulled the apks from my phone to install manually without the market anyway. So I dunno.
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Well, see?
You had to do a lame fix
Damn. I'd have to go back in and remove all of the bloatware, reinstall all of my apps, and everything else. Not sure I'm up for a minor fix.
Just installed it.. I have to say.. its THE BEST ota leak so far. It's far more stable than the first leak... and it seems like it doesn't drain the battery as much..
Most recent ota leak is a nice improvement over first 2.2 leak. And yeah all you guys saying full wipe is painful.... titanium backup is awesome and can have you back from a full wipe with everything restored and intact within minutes. This 2.2 is faster, fixes most of the problems of the first leak (yes market still needs the fix... so what? Easy easy fix....) and imo is very much worth the upgrade. But seriously only once you know how to extract the most from titanium....
I am more than happy to help anyone with advice on titanium usage or whatever.... pm if you have questions or need help
What's the Market fix?
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bast525 said:
Most recent ota leak is a nice improvement over first 2.2 leak. And yeah all you guys saying full wipe is painful.... titanium backup is awesome and can have you back from a full wipe with everything restored and intact within minutes. This 2.2 is faster, fixes most of the problems of the first leak (yes market still needs the fix... so what? Easy easy fix....) and imo is very much worth the upgrade. But seriously only once you know how to extract the most from titanium....
I am more than happy to help anyone with advice on titanium usage or whatever.... pm if you have questions or need help
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I've got it down to about a half hour doing a Titanium restore. I just use that to restore the apps and the data.
What takes most of the time is getting the screens set up again.
Still seem to have problems with the Market however... intermittent freezing, hangs on "downloading", etc.

Original sw on nexus s

I was wondering if you guys the following software on your new phone installed by default.
Qik
App brain
Skype
Quadrant
Speed test
Because when I got my phone from best buy it was already there and I am wondering if I got a used phone.
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None of those apps were preinstalled on the 2 NS's I bought on 12.16. Looks like someone played with/used it before you got it.
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I agree with Herr Bauhaus, app brain alone proves the phone's been played with before you got it.
Disappointing to hear that Best Buy is slipping returned phones into the "new" bin. If nothing else, they should have given you an "open box" discount. I'd take it back and demand that, or a new one. Turn it on before leaving the store and make sure nothing on the phone.
Thanks...this is disappointing. Shame on you best buy
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just some more confirmation, none of those apps should of been on the phone, you got a used device. Take it back and demand a new one, also as someone else said, open it in store.
if it still has the film over the screen telling you how to turn it on then thats a good sign but best to still turn it on and make sure no other apps are there.
Gingerbread auto-restores apps, are you certain this is not the case?
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AndroidZ28 said:
Gingerbread auto-restores apps, are you certain this is not the case?
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this is a possibility
If you had them on your old android phone that's why they are there. I suppose best buy installed you stored wifi passwords too
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well.. when you first turn on the phone, it does say Welcome to Nexus S... so thats a indicator if it was used or not
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If you had them on your old android phone that's why they are there. I suppose best buy installed you stored wifi passwords too
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He never said his wifi passwords were restored, and if it were Google restoring apps via the backup feature from an old phone, wouldn't it restore ALL his old apps? I doubt those were the only apps he had installed on his old phone, if he even had one...I guess we should ask him (did you, OP?).
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He never said his wifi passwords were restored, and if it were Google restoring apps via the backup feature from an old phone, wouldn't it restore ALL his old apps? I doubt those were the only apps he had installed on his old phone, if he even had one...I guess we should ask him (did you, OP?).
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It will restore as many as it can, depending on a couple variables. One variable being reception. If you are turning on your phone for the first time in a location with crappy signal, you will probably only get a partial, if any, app restore. I speak from experience here.
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It will restore as many as it can, depending on a couple variables. One variable being reception. If you are turning on your phone for the first time in a location with crappy signal, you will probably only get a partial, if any, app restore. I speak from experience here.
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And the rest will never come in after the first attempt? Not a very reliable system, then.
I remember it working for me once with my Nexus 1 way back when, but it's never worked reliably when switching to any other phone.
Of course also on the app restore issue there will be a notification letting you know that X number of apps were restored (or if there was a partial restore as well, I believe).
Whatever happened to the OP?
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Of course also on the app restore issue there will be a notification letting you know that X number of apps were restored (or if there was a partial restore as well, I believe).
Whatever happened to the OP?
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There's no restore notification as far as I know.
My apps and settings didn't restore when I replaced my nexus s. I have backup my data and automatic restore enabled, and did on the previous phone too.
in the end it's quite clear the OP got a "used" phone from the "new" phone pile from BestBuy
it might have even been from some of us here in XDA that found some defect and sent it back (j/k)
if i were you, i'd got back to complain at BB, and get a new unit
as mentioned by the guys above, you should get a WELCOME screen, touch here to begin your setup wizard.... blah blah blah, and no weird software should be installed
you can also go into Phone> Settings> About, and check on the usage status
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There's no restore notification as far as I know.
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That's odd, I always get a restore notification letting me know how many apps were reinstalled after changing devices or wiping/restoring.
Thanks guys for the answers. Quick update. I went back to BB to replace the phone and got a new one. No more extra apps.
I also noticed that this time the screen was no longer a finger print magnet either. They must have cleaned the previous phone and stripped the anti-smudge coating.
Problem: This time around though, I have a problem with the back button being stuck sometimes -- checking on xda forums and google forums, it looks like this is a hardware issue. Guess this phone is going back too. Too bad.
Maybe i'll just wait and see what happens to the GT-i9023.....
No for me. I did not own an android phone before (well, except for the 2 weeks I owned a Vibrant last summer), but I never had Skype or Qik installed, so it is not possible that this is a restore.
This was a used phone from Best Buy.

Titanium backup question

So I think I'm moving to the Sensation after some major issues with the Glacier. (I sure got T Mobile's attention. That's for sure. They actually offered me an Amaze as a free replacement. But it's just too big in my hand and pocket.)
Anywho....can I backup my Glacier apps and data with Titanium Backup and reinstall them to a Sensation? Or will it make everything screwball?
It's more the data within the apps that I don't want to lose. Not to mention all the settings for various apps that I don't feel like spending 9 hours pouring through to get it all back to the way I like it.
I can live with redownloading all the apps from the Market if I have to. But I'd like to know if I can use Titanium to at least reinstall all the data.
(If I have to beat certain Angry Birds levels again.....those green pigs are going to die)
It's apps like Jorte Calendar that I've spent hours tweaking the color schemes on that I don't want to lose. And for some reason Jorte doesn't have a 'save settings to file" option like Go SMS does.
Skipjacks said:
So I think I'm moving to the Sensation after some major issues with the Glacier. (I sure got T Mobile's attention. That's for sure. They actually offered me an Amaze as a free replacement. But it's just too big in my hand and pocket.)
Anywho....can I backup my Glacier apps and data with Titanium Backup and reinstall them to a Sensation? Or will it make everything screwball?
It's more the data within the apps that I don't want to lose. Not to mention all the settings for various apps that I don't feel like spending 9 hours pouring through to get it all back to the way I like it.
I can live with redownloading all the apps from the Market if I have to. But I'd like to know if I can use Titanium to at least reinstall all the data.
(If I have to beat certain Angry Birds levels again.....those green pigs are going to die)
It's apps like Jorte Calendar that I've spent hours tweaking the color schemes on that I don't want to lose. And for some reason Jorte doesn't have a 'save settings to file" option like Go SMS does.
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lol the Sensation looks really nice! i really want one...
and to answer your question, yes you can. i've tried moving app data from one phone to another (both androids, two completely different brands) using TitaniumBackup, everything was fine
Well that's a load off my mind!
Tb only works with rooted devices just a heads up.
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coupetastic-droid said:
Tb only works with rooted devices just a heads up.
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Yeah...the Sensation will barely be warmed up before I have it rooted. I assure you.
I've moved app data from the HTC Thunderbolt to the HTC Rezound with no problems. Of course make sure not to include system data just apps and app data.
Im sure a few apps may cause problems but its rare. I would do it in sections and make a nandroid backup maybe a third of the way or halfway so if there's a problem you won't have to start all the way over.
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[Q] Titanium Back Up VS Carbon

I have been a long time user of Titanium Back Up Pro and its been both magical and wonderful all these years and now Koush has pushed out Carbon...
Does anyone have any insights as to why it would be better to move over to Carbon for backup purposes BESIDES SYNC. and besides the sync feature they pretty much both do the same thing or is one app better than the other for any reason.
Just looking for some user feedback on who has used both and which they prefer...
Haven't tried carbon but I assume there is more compatibility/support from other apps/devs for Titanium. Will have to look into carbon.
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If Carbon does what it says on the tin, the single most compelling feature is to be able to backup and restore market apps & and data without needing root. That's got to be compelling for folks on devices like the N7 where the least-resistance path to rooting involves wiping the device.
The least attractive feature seems to be that it requires a PC...
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If Carbon does what it says on the tin, the single most compelling feature is to be able to backup and restore market apps & and data without needing root. That's got to be compelling for folks on devices like the N7 where the least-resistance path to rooting involves wiping the device.
The least attractive feature seems to be that it requires a PC...
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Yes i totally forgot about the fact that you do not need to root the device. but when i got my n7 first thing i did was turn it on made sure it worked and from there rooted within the first hour haha
but that is true... for those that dont look into root...
Well I'm no expert in this area, so my feedback will be purely based on user experience with no knowledge on how the two work.
Carbon is nicer, cleaner, simpler, and much easier to navigate than TB. I used TB before Carbon came out, but once I used Carbon I stopped using TB.
Just simple feedback from a typical Android user
I'm gonna try carbon next time I flash anything on my s2 (stock 4.2.2 on my n7 and keeping it that way) but I will do a titanium backup too.
Titanium backup is the best for many reasons and has been for awhile. Something really great would ever be able to replace it.
Can you freeze apps, make individual backups, clear data and caches on carbon?? Batch restore some apps with data, then others without? Would need all these options to compete.....for me anyway.
Gonna check out carbon. Will post my experience when I use it.
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Carbon is more 'user-friendly' than Titanium but has fewer features... also, you don't need root.
But just running it on my (rooted) Nexus 7... there are four apps (out of the 200+ apps I have installed) designated as BACKUP DISALLOWED... (you have to scroll down to the bottom of the screen to see this).
They are...
TricksterMod
Argos (a shopping app for the UK catalogue store)
AdAway
ZArchiver
Carbon will not backup these apps... not even the APKs...(aside from the userdata associated with them).
But Titanium will...
Not quite sure why this should be... even Gemini App Manager (http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.seasmind.android.gmappmgr&hl=en) will backup these APKs... and also doesn't require root.
Very puzzling...
I'll be sticking with Titanium. It does what I need it to do. And backs up EVERYTHING!
Rgrds,
Ged.
GedBlake said:
Carbon is more 'user-friendly' than Titanium but has fewer features... also, you don't need root.
But just running it on my (rooted) Nexus 7... there are four apps (out of the 200+ apps I have installed) designated as BACKUP DISALLOWED... (you have to scroll down to the bottom of the screen to see this).
They are...
TricksterMod
Argos (a shopping app for the UK catalogue store)
AdAway
ZArchiver
Carbon will not backup these apps... not even the APKs...(aside from the userdata associated with them).
But Titanium will...
Not quite sure why this should be... even Gemini App Manager (http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.seasmind.android.gmappmgr&hl=en) will backup these APKs... and also doesn't require root.
Very puzzling...
I'll be sticking with Titanium. It does what I need it to do. And backs up EVERYTHING!
Rgrds,
Ged.
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You could always use rom toolbox and have all the features you need for rooted phones for $5
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You could always use rom toolbox and have all the features you need for rooted phones for $5
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I already have all the features I need...
...with TWRP, Titanium, ChainFires SU (although recently being playing around with Koush's new SuperUser app), Terminal Emulator...and a root capable file manager like X-Plore.
...and of course, FASTBOOT...
Why would I need a toolbox?
Rgrds,
Ged.

[Q] Reboots

Hey Ladies and Gents,
I've updated my Note3 to the latest Update and installed Scotts Clean Rom 1.5 and it ran great until I started restoring my apps. Once all apps were restored (from the Play store, not from my Titanium BU Archive) the phone started rebooting and was stuck in a loop, couldn't get it back to the homescreen. Googled and found that some folks say "Remove your SD card and turn off the constant Wi-Fi scanning" but that didn't help, so I wiped and re-installed the Rom....all was well...until I restored my Apps again. I don't know which App could be causing this, they're all from the Play Store and all of my apps are Paid Apps (Don't like Ads in my apps so I pay for them if they have a Pay App available). Just wiped again and haven't restored any apps, but rebooted the device myself about 5 times, everything works.
Have any of you ever seen this before? Most of my Apps are Camera and Photo Editing Apps. I'm not going to restore anything because I need my phone work work, so I'll only attach my Personal and Work E-mails to it, but that's not going to fly for long. Apparently the Boot-Looping issue is known http://www.sammobile.com/2013/10/17/some-galaxy-note-3-units-experiencing-boot-loops/
Any ideas ?
Thanks.
Have you tried restoring 1 app at a time to narrow it down?
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Have you tried restoring 1 app at a time to narrow it down?
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That'll be my next step....I have over 450 paid apps, so I'm going to weed out the apps that I don't use all the time, and focus on the ones I do use. It will be time consuming.....
tdetroit said:
That'll be my next step....I have over 450 paid apps, so I'm going to weed out the apps that I don't use all the time, and focus on the ones I do use. It will be time consuming.....
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That's a lot of apps. Lol. That will probably be your best bet though...pack a lunch. Lol
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neopolotin75 said:
That's a lot of apps. Lol. That will probably be your best bet though...pack a lunch. Lol
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LOL...I'm an App-o-holic.
I just downloaded another ROM for the new update, and I'll load all of my apps with that to see if it's isolated by ROM's or Apps. It's a snowy wonderland outside, so there's nothing better to do than play with my phone and figure this out.
Ok....this is odd. I've tried a different ROM and installed ALL of my apps, no issues, no rebooting.....so one of my apps doesn't like to play with Scotts Clean Rom.....hmmmmm. Seeing how there are only two ROM's available that are for the new OTA update, I'm going to stick with this ROM and install Scotts into another slot and then go one by one, and see why/how/which app is not playing nice.

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