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Google's backup service works better on Xoom than Droids.

Replaced my Droid before and had to download apps again from scratch and everything, redo all my settings. But when I activated my Xoom, it downloaded all the apps on my phone to it, even copied over things like my browser history and my saved wifi passwords. (Kinda creepy actually but it was really convenient, so I give Goog as pass on this.)
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I agree, I logged into Google and all my apps wifi bookmarks downloaded, cool but creepy
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I had no idea that this would happen, but after just exchanging my Xoom at BestBuy for a new one, I found the following after it ran through a google sync process:
All my apps are installed
WiFi settings / networks were maintained
Still looking around to see what else transfered to this unit, but given that I didnt expect that anything would, im pretty impressed. I dont recall ever telling the 1st device to do such things or initiated any backups.

that didn't happen for me, but i wish it did! how can I re-sync it now?

gigglebox said:
I had no idea that this would happen, but after just exchanging my Xoom at BestBuy for a new one, I found the following after it ran through a google sync process:
All my apps are installed
WiFi settings / networks were maintained
Still looking around to see what else transfered to this unit, but given that I didnt expect that anything would, im pretty impressed. I dont recall ever telling the 1st device to do such things or initiated any backups.
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the wifi setting is what surprised me as well. i have an evo and when i signed in at my xoom, after it synced everything with google, it was connected to my wifi at home.

ocdtrekkie said:
Replaced my Droid before and had to download apps again from scratch and everything, redo all my settings. But when I activated my Xoom, it downloaded all the apps on my phone to it, even copied over things like my browser history and my saved wifi passwords. (Kinda creepy actually but it was really convenient, so I give Goog as pass on this.)
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I think this has something to do with 3rd party customizations on the Droids and HTC handsets. I know when I flash a Sense ROM on my Evo 4G it does not automatically restore my apps. But if I flash an AOSP ROM, they do. Xoom's Gingerbread is basically AOSP, just a tablet version.

My Droid touchscreen is broken and consequently has been wiped a few times recently and I have noticed the recent improvements. I loved it when I turned the WIFI on my Xoom at home it automatically had the settings.

TheZuneLune said:
My Droid touchscreen is broken and consequently has been wiped a few times recently and I have noticed the recent improvements. I loved it when I turned the WIFI on my Xoom at home it automatically had the settings.
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Must admit my nexus one has been doing that since I got it - i.e. when flashing a new ROM (which is all we do on nexus's ) Google sync would download my wifi settings including passwords. Very useful, but not very new. Maybe it was a Droid limitation.

I think tha'ts an AOSP thing. I flashed my Evo to CM7 and the same happened (and yes the wifi thing was pretty creepy lol)

How do I turn on the Google Backup for Android? Is it just from Google Sync?

bguzmanz2 said:
I agree, I logged into Google and all my apps wifi bookmarks downloaded, cool but creepy
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Very BIG help though I have to admit....

That's one of my favorite things about Android. When I upgraded from the G1 to the Nexus One it did that. And again when I went from the Nexus One to my current G2. It's definitely something stock Android features. I remember I was surprised the first time it happened. And the wifi setting restore is awesome.
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Home screen customization settings aren't backed up
Google's Backup remembers a lot of settings, but it never backs up the Home screen settings.
It takes awhile to add all my shortcuts and widgets to the five home screens, so I wish Google could remember those, as well.
Hope it's included in the next batch of fixes.

my droid x does the same thing when i flash new roms. it has nothing to do with the xoom

So Google has the wifi passwords of everyone using Android 2.2+ who turns this service on? Seriously?
What about RADIUS? Are they storing per-user authentication tokens too?

clovis_ll said:
the wifi setting is what surprised me as well. i have an evo and when i signed in at my xoom, after it synced everything with google, it was connected to my wifi at home.
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Same thing here... I was like yo, I know my router has mad security.. wtf.... oh wait a second... lol

Is this tread comparing the Xoom to Droid phones or Android phones? If its about any Android then the title really needs to be changed.
Droid is Verizon's Android phones. Why is that so hard for people to understand?
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ocdtrekkie said:
Replaced my Droid before and had to download apps again from scratch and everything, redo all my settings. But when I activated my Xoom, it downloaded all the apps on my phone to it, even copied over things like my browser history and my saved wifi passwords. (Kinda creepy actually but it was really convenient, so I give Goog as pass on this.)
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Lol... yeah when you first setup your phone it asks you if you'd like those things backed up on the google cloud... the cloud is kinda what google was known for. Didn't you know? Lol
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smarmo said:
So Google has the wifi passwords of everyone using Android 2.2+ who turns this service on? Seriously?
What about RADIUS? Are they storing per-user authentication tokens too?
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Not sure why that should seem so alarming. If you use the Google device restore option the you already have an account with Google. Google therefore has your account password. Shock horror! If like me you also use Google checkout then Google also has your credit card number. Wifi is the last of our worries .

djunio said:
Is this tread comparing the Xoom to Droid phones or Android phones? If its about any Android then the title really needs to be changed.
Droid is Verizon's Android phones. Why is that so hard for people to understand?
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I was specifically referring to different backup/restore behaior between my Droid 1 and the Xoom. Restored Droid 1s do not seem to restore information to this extent.
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Thank you for the what???

OK so at the recommendation of one of the members I flashed U.K.E. Rom on to my phone. Kinda liking it but I got the oddest text this morning.
谢谢你的电话插孔一天。
Google translate says it's simplified Chinese and means "Thank you for the phone Jack"...
Is this a fluke or should I be worried?
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Maybe it was built in to send to you when you flashed only One_love could be able to explain it cuz i got the same message when i ran U.K.E
One by One the penguins steal my SANITY

Is your name Jack? Does the text show the number it was sent from? Where did you download your rom from (ROM Manager, SDX website, etc)? Do you have any apps that didn't come from the market?

MrLinky said:
Is your name Jack? Does the text show the number it was sent from? Where did you download your rom from (ROM Manager, SDX website, etc)? Do you have any apps that didn't come from the market?
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I got the Rom from the sdx forum and I haven't installed anything that wasn't from the market. I do have the phone number and it's from a local number, that's what freaks me out the most. If this wasn't a fluke then anyone with this knowledge can get my info let alone could they call out of country on my account and all that stuff...
turkbot said:
Maybe it was built in to send to you when you flashed only One_love could be able to explain it cuz i got the same message when i ran U.K.E
One by One the penguins steal my SANITY
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This makes me feel a bit better though as long as you didn't get any odd charges on your bill...
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Wow very random if i must say. I have yet seen or heard of this. Im wondering if you have a rogue app messing with you two. Lets see if we can figure this out, what apps do the both of you have the same of? Ive yet to see this message to me or hear of it from others. And i can tell you that there is nothing written into this rom to send you that message. This is why im thinking its a rogue app. If we could get a list of the apps you both have that received this random message.
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one_love_420 said:
Wow very random if i must say. I have yet seen or heard of this. Im wondering if you have a rogue app messing with you two. Lets see if we can figure this out, what apps do the both of you have the same of? Ive yet to see this message to me or hear of it from others. And i can tell you that there is nothing written into this rom to send you that message. This is why im thinking its a rogue app. If we could get a list of the apps you both have that received this random message.
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Sounds good. BTW, I called Sprint just to double check to see if they show any calls placed through my phone number or anything. The lady on the phone said it's possible but if someone did it wont post to my account for a few days, especially if they made any international calls.
I didn't figure there was anything scripted into the rom itself to do this, it's possible that it could be something rogue. It's also possible that someone with the skillz was just driving by and grabed my info from a wifi signal and texted me just to F with me.
Anywho, on to the installed program list...
Andchat
Androzip
Antivirus (AVG)
App 2 SD Free
Astro
Brightness Level
Business Calendar Free
CamScanner
ColorNote
Craigslist
Dropbox
eBay
Echolink (Amateur radio stuff)
ElectroDroid
Evernote
Fast Reboot
Forum Viewer for Warcraft (letting my geek show now...)
Gmail
GO Contacts
GO Launcher EX
GO Locker
GO SMS Pro
(few go themes)
Google Voice (yeah I know... if they realy want to know so be it)
GOWidget Transparent Theme
Gps Speedometer
GPS Test
gTabSiMiClock
History Eraser
Just Playlists
KeePassDroid
Kingsoft Office
Klondike
Linux Utils Lite
Maps (Google...)
market
Offline Dictionaries
Opera Mobile
Pandora
Philly D App
PocketManga
QuickPic
RealCalc
Rom Manager
Scanner Radio
Simple Weather Alert
Sync Settings
Tethering Widget
Titanium Backup
TuneIn Radio
TweakDeck
Uptime Widget
Upvise Pro
Voice Search
WoW Armory
XDA
Yachtc
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and there's more room to put moah on my phone!!!!
This is the list as of the time I got the text. Sometimes I uninstall things like maps if I don't need it and what not.
And keep in mind, I'm not blaming anyone for what has or may happen. I'm not accusing anyone of anything. Just figured I'd see if this is just an odd ball spam from someone locally trying to troll me or what.

Wow that is odd as hell. I've been running and testing uke since before it was released and I've never had that pop up on me. Its def not something in the rom and I hope you guys find the app doing it. Good luck.

-somebody- said:
Wow that is odd as hell. I've been running and testing uke since before it was released and I've never had that pop up on me. Its def not something in the rom and I hope you guys find the app doing it. Good luck.
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I think this is what's making me think it's just a fluke or a troll... I've been running these apps for a while now and haven't ever had a problem with them. I didn't even expect a comment from One_Love_420 either. VICODAN is the one that recommended the ROM to me so I wasn't going to just point the finger to the ROM anyways. I did have my Wifi running all night long (had the advanced setting setup to not put my wifi to sleep when my phone goes off). The only thing I haven't done yet is check to see what my logs say on my Linksys router (maybe he tapped my phone for internet).
I think it's just a fluke (or at least I hope... this could be an exspensive bill if this person was able to make calls from my phone or anything like that).

retiredhp2200 said:
I think this is what's making me think it's just a fluke or a troll... I've been running these apps for a while now and haven't ever had a problem with them. I didn't even expect a comment from One_Love_420 either. VICODAN is the one that recommended the ROM to me so I wasn't going to just point the finger to the ROM anyways. I did have my Wifi running all night long (had the advanced setting setup to not put my wifi to sleep when my phone goes off). The only thing I haven't done yet is check to see what my logs say on my Linksys router (maybe he tapped my phone for internet).
I think it's just a fluke (or at least I hope... this could be an exspensive bill if this person was able to make calls from my phone or anything like that).
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yeah its def an oddity. have you ran miui on it anytime recently and maybe there was residual mess from it and someone was still able to mess with you? or hell, coulda been someone texting the wrong person, i would think its just a fluke if youve been using the same apps for x amount of time and havent had this happen before.

One thing does come to mind when looking at your app list. Go sms pro is a china developed app and has a ton of permissions that i would never approve of, one being the ability to make calls. Check its permissons list on the market. A little much for an app imho.
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Didn't think about that... Figured the GO stuff was lagit since it's all from the same group.
/me uninstalls GO SMS
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yeah its def an oddity. have you ran miui on it anytime recently and maybe there was residual mess from it and someone was still able to mess with you? or hell, coulda been someone texting the wrong person, i would think its just a fluke if youve been using the same apps for x amount of time and havent had this happen before.
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I haven't tried Miui yet. I started with CM7 and wanted to get into somthing light (meaning less sprint stuff and being able to uninstall maps and stuff since I only use them once in a great while). I know I got a lot of GO stuff on it but I've just been tinkering with it since the kernal is running a bit more then just the 800 mhz on the cpu. Wanted to "test" out what this thing is capable of.
The bling is nice, the personalization of colors and stuff is cool and all... But I use this for business a lot and kinda like a rock solid machine that's as efficient as possible. I'm looking into other options of roms that are just plane Jane Android next. U.K.E. has been running nicely even with all the bling (minus go sms now I guess). Depending on how put off I am about no bling I might just go back to using U.K.E.

retiredhp2200 said:
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Depending on how put off I am about no bling I might just go back to using U.K.E.
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U.K.E. is pretty rock solid for an aosp ROM, I try all of the ROMS on XDA for the shift as theyre released and even though that means im trying alot of diff ROMS i generally restore my UKE backups for my daily driver

retiredhp2200 said:
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Didn't think about that... Figured the GO stuff was lagit since it's all from the same group.
/me uninstalls GO SMS
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You should always check permissions of apps even from the market..Google doesn't keep track of apps published on the market and if they are malicious or not. It's up to users to report if something funky is happening. That's why I un-installed GoSms a long time ago when they first added all of those strange permissions to the updated versions. It was even causing people to have issues with phone calls. Read through market comments and check permissions Always with any app even if it's just a update to a new version. The devs of GoSms are very un-responsive also when people ask them about the permissions and report issues. If you really want to get down to the bottom of something also run a logcat and see what the app is doing.

one_love_420 said:
Wow very random if i must say. I have yet seen or heard of this. Im wondering if you have a rogue app messing with you two. Lets see if we can figure this out, what apps do the both of you have the same of? Ive yet to see this message to me or hear of it from others. And i can tell you that there is nothing written into this rom to send you that message. This is why im thinking its a rogue app. If we could get a list of the apps you both have that received this random message.
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I can attest that UKE is a SOLID rom and is very secure.

VICODAN said:
I can attest that UKE is a SOLID rom and is very secure.
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Because it's based on cm7?

Solid indeed. Outside of that odd text I haven't had any other issues. I haven't tried to track down who's phone number that is Incas it's a friend just messing with me and I haven't had any charges posted to my account so... Might have just been someone messing with me.
Sent from my Evo Shift using XDA.

It's definately not a rom related issue. Download Addons Detector from the market. This will help you to track down suspicious apps intalled on your device.

So I got rid of all of the GO products and I'm just running the AWD stuff that came with the rom. Only thing I realy miss is the SMS stuff. I looked at handsent and their permissions are the same (for the most part) as go sms.
Any thoughts on an sms program? I'm looking for character count and more info like sent date/time displayed without going into message details.
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Remote Wipe Stolen a500

Hey guys and gals,
Tonight my a500 was stolen. I work in sales and use it to look things on the net for customers (like price comparisons, etc) and use it for the website and lots of other business-type things (as well as lots of personal pics etc).
But, unfortunately when my back was turned, someone swiped it...!!!! argh:angry:
I had the newest release of jellybean on it from the forums here on xda, but had no remote wipe app installed (never even crossed my mind to do it). Therefore, I'm wondering if the is any remote wipe abilities in jellybean or if there was an app by chance that i had installed that would have this feature hidden (like onavo or norton utilities... reading now).
If anyone can help that would be amazing! Changed all my passwords, etc. So, I should be fine there. thanks guys
k

kylereid said:
Hey guys and gals,
Tonight my a500 was stolen. I work in sales and use it to look things on the net for customers (like price comparisons, etc) and use it for the website and lots of other business-type things (as well as lots of personal pics etc).
But, unfortunately when my back was turned, someone swiped it...!!!! argh:angry:
I had the newest release of jellybean on it from the forums here on xda, but had no remote wipe app installed (never even crossed my mind to do it). Therefore, I'm wondering if the is any remote wipe abilities in jellybean or if there was an app by chance that i had installed that would have this feature hidden (like onavo or norton utilities... reading now).
If anyone can help that would be amazing! Changed all my passwords, etc. So, I should be fine there. thanks guys
k
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Sorry mate. Not a lot you can do about it at this time.
Just cherish the thought of what's going to happen when he decides jb is too buggy, and tries to install a different rom. :laugh:
I suppose a new user will be posting all kinds of questions here at xda in the near future!
Still sorry to hear it got pinched. I know the feeling.
MD

thanks man. thought i was buggered lol. I left a facebook update that i hope shows up on the notifications in the tablet and make the culprit feel guilty. maybe it'll show up in the morning at work... fingers crossed. made me look at getting a wipe app for the old phone now, went with seekdroid. seems legit. any other suggestions?

kylereid said:
thanks man. thought i was buggered lol. I left a facebook update that i hope shows up on the notifications in the tablet and make the culprit feel guilty. maybe it'll show up in the morning at work... fingers crossed. made me look at getting a wipe app for the old phone now, went with seekdroid. seems legit. any other suggestions?
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Well, I don't have a lot of faith in those types of apps. They usually only work if an idiot steals it. Over here, pinching phones and tabs is big business, and usually done by pro's. They're quick to dump the device to another agent, who runs a stock full rom on it, clones the IMEI number from a good device , then dumps it to one of the umpteen million fly by night resellers. They (moscow govt) talked about cracking down on multiple PH number/IMEI combinations, then quickly realized over half the devices in Russia would stop working! Including their own!
Best thing to do, never let it out of your sight. Get a new device, like I did my phone, and the pain goes away.
But then again, maybe your culprit is a true idiot, and will post fotos to your facebook account!!!!!
MD

WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem

Did you try that Plan B yet or is that just over advertised junk?
Moscow Desire said:
Well, I don't have a lot of faith in those types of apps. They usually only work if an idiot steals it. Over here, pinching phones and tabs is big business, and usually done by pro's. They're quick to dump the device to another agent, who runs a stock full rom on it, clones the IMEI number from a good device , then dumps it to one of the umpteen million fly by night resellers. They (moscow govt) talked about cracking down on multiple PH number/IMEI combinations, then quickly realized over half the devices in Russia would stop working! Including their own!
Best thing to do, never let it out of your sight. Get a new device, like I did my phone, and the pain goes away.
But then again, maybe your culprit is a true idiot, and will post fotos to your facebook account!!!!!
MD
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The last person to steal one of my phones was a true idiot. This happened at my school and good thing I'm done with school. I was in class and had my phone charging and I had it out because I trusted most everyone in the room and would known who would have taken it.
So he asked if it was my phone and about a minute later he leaves the room. I noticed it was gone and others around me saw him take it. (Not obvious at all)
So I had the Vipre Mobile Security beta installed so I immediately logged into the web interface to activate GPS tracking and set off the alarm. Except when I logged in the service hadn't communicated when the app/phone in over a month so it was useless.
Over the period of the next 24 hours he had used the phone to take photos, delete everything on my sdcard, spam my YouTube feed with countless videos, and make voice calls to their own friends and family. So I looked on my carrier's account management and found all these numbers. Between the school staff and police it was possible to track the calls back to his identity. I got my phone back the next day...without the case and screen protector, sucks that they kept that.
So the lesson is make sure you have good, working anti theft solutions with cascading failsafes.
The next app I installed after ditching Vipre was Avast. This was a good solution with some flaws. Avast was one of the first Play Store security apps to utilize root access. Because of root in addition to setting as a device administrator it was also installed as a system service and app. This made it persistent and harder to remove.
The issue with avast was since the app was in /system and not /data it would have to be completely reconfigured after flashing each nightly update. Sometimes I'd forget and then it wouldn't work. It claimed to support the CM backup script except it was designed for CM7 and CM9 uses a different type of backup.
The other issue with avast was there was no web interface. You could only send commands through SMS.
Since I got my Nexus I bought Cerberus anti theft its perfect. It has system app support. Instead of a user setup it apparently registers the device ID or SIM or something and loads the user account from the cloud server. So all I do is add the apk to the CM backup list and it auto configures when installed. I can use SMS control or the website. I can monitor and control pretty much the entire phone and it takes a front camera photo on invalid pass code.
I check weekly to ensure its still running and it hasn't failed once.
As a failsafe I also have the first screen splash modded to my contact info in case of loss. Its encrypted so if anything maybe only a boot loader update could remove it.
chismay said:
WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem
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I think that only works if you accept all the tracking disclaimers to enable location history and not many people have history turned on.
I guess the lesson is you can't let your guard down for even a second. One time I let a friend sync their iPod touch on my computer since they didn't have a PC and they ended up snatching my classic monochrome iPod. I'm still upset to this day since they didn't take my old iPod touch instead. That just proves the first gen iPod touch is so bad people won't even steal it.
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KemikalElite said:
I think that only works if you accept all the tracking disclaimers to enable location history and not many people have history turned on.
I guess the lesson is you can't let your guard down for even a second. One time I let a friend sync their iPod touch on my computer since they didn't have a PC and they ended up snatching my classic monochrome iPod. I'm still upset to this day since they didn't take my old iPod touch instead. That just proves the first gen iPod touch is so bad people won't even steal it.
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oh yea def' just thought for pot-luck ,
it is a pitty when you let someone come into your house as a friendly gesture only to find them stealing from you,... ive had my fair share and also a fair share of miss-understandings thereafter because of a newly aquired paranoia..... but i think its 100% justified.

If you download the lookout app and install it, if you ever lose your tablet, on the lookout website you can see where it is, (if GPS was enabled when lost) you can also do a remote wipe, and a remote siren, make it put off an alarm remotely.
Its a good app to have just in case, but doesn't help if the app was not installed before being lost or stolen.
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lifeofcoding said:
If you download the lookout app and install it, if you ever lose your tablet, on the lookout website you can see where it is, (if GPS was enabled when lost) you can also do a remote wipe, and a remote siren, make it put off an alarm remotely.
Its a good app to have just in case, but doesn't help if the app was not installed before being lost or stolen.
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yeah sound like the prey app too , i can also send a popup message to the tab screen, be near the location displayed on the map and then activate a "S-SCARING" siren lol
also one good thing is prey uses the location services through wifi as well as gps, tells you the address of the current and last wifi hotspots logged into
so if it says currently "wii hotspot mcdonalds fast food , thief street. lol go to the mcdonalds and set off the alarms,...clearly see your tablet...and a jackass who need a beating. :highfive::highfive::highfive::highfive:

chismay said:
WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem
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hey man, great idea! no luck...
and thanks guys for al of the advice! still no luck with the tab i think the worst part of it is was that i was really getting to love it. like the development here, especially with jb!, is fantastic. and i was a kickstarter supporter for chameleon and now seeing the new updates really puts salt on the wound. lol. in the next month i'll need another tablet, so im debating on finding another 2nd hand one for the price of a nexus 7, or just getting the 7. only thing is though, is the size....
thanks again.

I'm assuming you've looked into "Plan B" on the Android market, right? It automatically installs from the market on your tablet, and broadcasts location immediately on install. Not sure how accurate or helpful it is, but if you haven't tried it yet... you probably should.
The other option is to put out some Wanted To Buy ads...

gfinockio said:
I'm assuming you've looked into "Plan B" on the Android market, right? It automatically installs from the market on your tablet, and broadcasts location immediately on install. Not sure how accurate or helpful it is, but if you haven't tried it yet... you probably should.
The other option is to put out some Wanted To Buy ads...
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i already changed the passwords, i wasn't aware of Plan B. great idea though! i tried it anyways lol.
and yeah ive been scouring kijiji and craigslist like a fiend

Decent nexus 7 anti theft app?

I'd like to install an anti theft app on my n7. I've got Where's My Droid on my phone, but the thing is, the nexus doesn't have a data signal to access its GPS location at the drop of a dime.... it would only be able to be tracked if it is currently connected to WiFi, right? If it wasn't connected to WiFi then there would be no way to track it that I can think of. Anyways, what are some good anti theft apps that you guys are using?
Another question, has any used Tablet Talk, or so,etching similar? Its an app that sync your phone and tablet together which allows text messages to be sent front your nexus, but it uses your mobile number. Are there any other apps out there like this? Would really love to hear about some experiences with Tablet Talk or similar apps so I know what I should purchase. Thanks in advance.
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Cerberus. Paid, but worth it. Got my SGS2 back with it.

thcaddict said:
I'd like to install an anti theft app on my n7. I've got Where's My Droid on my phone, but the thing is, the nexus doesn't have a data signal to access its GPS location at the drop of a dime.... it would only be able to be tracked if it is currently connected to WiFi, right? If it wasn't connected to WiFi then there would be no way to track it that I can think of. Anyways, what are some good anti theft apps that you guys are using?
Another question, has any used Tablet Talk, or so,etching similar? Its an app that sync your phone and tablet together which allows text messages to be sent front your nexus, but it uses your mobile number. Are there any other apps out there like this? Would really love to hear about some experiences with Tablet Talk or similar apps so I know what I should purchase. Thanks in advance.
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i was using Lookout (and disabled the anti-virus stuff), but i believe most people prefer Cerberus...i think it's $3 in GP right now. check out some demos/reviews on youtube.

frescagod said:
i was using Lookout (and disabled the anti-virus stuff), but i believe most people prefer Cerberus...i think it's $3 in GP right now. check out some demos/reviews on youtube.
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What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.

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What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.
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You're giving the common criminal too much credit. Most of the time these people are looking to sell it for a few dollars.

Danny80y said:
What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.
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You can install Cerberus as a system app and it will withstand a factory reset. However, if they decide to flash a new ROM you are screwed. But you are pretty much right about once you lose it is is gone since it has to be connected to WiFi to send back data.
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I have Cerberus.. but it most likely will be useless... unless it is taken like at work where I already have Wi-Fi setup on it, it will never be able to phone home and the pattern lock will prevent the new owner from setting up a new access point without having to wipe the unit anyway because it will get locked out.
A phone is a different beast altogether.
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For the "no known wifi" problem I use "wefi pro automatic wifi" or "wifi buddy beta". Both will try to scan and connect your tablet to open networks.
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zeus_chingon said:
For the "no known wifi" problem I use "wefi pro automatic wifi" or "wifi buddy beta". Both will try to scan and connect your tablet to open networks.
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That's good to know. I'll be sure to try those out.
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krelvinaz said:
I have Cerberus.. but it most likely will be useless... unless it is taken like at work where I already have Wi-Fi setup on it, it will never be able to phone home and the pattern lock will prevent the new owner from setting up a new access point without having to wipe the unit anyway because it will get locked out.
A phone is a different beast altogether.
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Yea, phones are a different thing... not only do you have the opportunity to track but also they are tagged to a network. But a WiFi only tab... even with an autowifi app.. the chances of both apps running at the time stolen and connected to WiFi are really slim. Besides the fact that you couldn't go busting in a residence just because you knew it was in there......

+1 Cerberus good support too
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thcaddict said:
I'd like to install an anti theft app on my n7. I've got Where's My Droid on my phone, but the thing is, the nexus doesn't have a data signal to access its GPS location at the drop of a dime.... it would only be able to be tracked if it is currently connected to WiFi, right? If it wasn't connected to WiFi then there would be no way to track it that I can think of. Anyways, what are some good anti theft apps that you guys are using?
Another question, has any used Tablet Talk, or so,etching similar? Its an app that sync your phone and tablet together which allows text messages to be sent front your nexus, but it uses your mobile number. Are there any other apps out there like this? Would really love to hear about some experiences with Tablet Talk or similar apps so I know what I should purchase. Thanks in advance.
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Bought Cerberus myself and a few coworkers bought it too. Love the features.
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Nexus 7 do have gps integrated unsure if it can sync the position on cerberus server without wifi
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Assuming that your tab has some sort of pin/pattern lock/face unlock protection and your Wi-Fi is always on, then there shouldn't be much problem for the auto-Wi-Fi app to connect and enable access for Cerberus. Mind you that wefi pro DOES start on boot.
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Yea, phones are a different thing... not only do you have the opportunity to track but also they are tagged to a network. But a WiFi only tab... even with an autowifi app.. the chances of both apps running at the time stolen and connected to WiFi are really slim. Besides the fact that you couldn't go busting in a residence just because you knew it was in there......
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zeus_chingon said:
Assuming that your tab has some sort of pin/pattern lock/face unlock protection and your Wi-Fi is always on, then there shouldn't be much problem for the auto-Wi-Fi app to connect and enable access for Cerberus. Mind you that wefi pro DOES start on boot.
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Except if course that using open Wi-Fi is insecure...but if you are willing to do that, it might be a solution...you would need to test it first.
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I have Avast installed on my Nexus 7. Don't care for the AV, but it does have built in anti theft, where if your N7 is rooted, it can bury itself deep in the system and survive hard-resets. Not sure how well it does, and hope never to find out, but it looks alright. There are probably similar apps out there.

Avast here too. AV does seem to slow some things down some, I guess I'll turn it off. The "locate" feature works well with Google Voice number. Turns on your GPS then sends location to GV (on a PC). Only time I hope to need it is if I leave my Nexus somewhere and I need to remember where (hoping it wasn't stolen). I'm a bit paranoid since I recently had a phone stolen with no security software on it.

Danny80y said:
What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.
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Not with cerebrus.
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krelvinaz said:
I have Cerberus.. but it most likely will be useless... unless it is taken like at work where I already have Wi-Fi setup on it, it will never be able to phone home and the pattern lock will prevent the new owner from setting up a new access point without having to wipe the unit anyway because it will get locked out.
A phone is a different beast altogether.
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Actually you can flash cerebrus and even if they wipe it will still be there.
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Danny80y said:
What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.
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Passwords aren't going to get your tablet back. IMO, the biggest risk of losing a tablet is accidently leaving it someplace. I have a business card taped to the protective case of my Nexus and have the app "Android Lost" installed. If my tablet is found by an honest person, then they will call the number on the business card and all is well. If it is found by someone not so honest, the odds of them being sophisticated enough to know how to "wipe the tab" are slim to none. It is more likely that if they are stopped by a passwork, they'll just ditch the tab in the trash or try to "get a reward" by calling me. Without a password, they'll probably at least use it long enough to run down the battery. In that case I at least have a chance of locating it via "Android Lost".
edit: If I were a student, using my tablet "on campus" everyday, I might reconsider the risk. The "campus environment" probably is more conducive to actually having a tablet stolen.

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Not with cerebrus.
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Actually you can flash cerebrus and even if they wipe it will still be there.
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Even if that were true, so what?
You are missing the point.
Okay. I'm at a conference and and look away and someone grabs my Nexus 7. I was using WiFi via my phone since I never use WiFi from unsecure sources. They run away and hours later turn it on. Password is required. They don't know it and after X number attempts the tablet is now locked.
The tablet is not going to connect to any WiFi near them because it is setup to not allow unsecure WiFi connections.
How is cerebrus going to help me find my Tablet ??? It won't, it can't. If they can't use the Tablet (its locked out now right), it doesn't matter if Cerebrus is on it or not.
On a device with 3G, We are talking about something totally different. and I use Android Lost for that. Works great and I know a couple people who found their phones with it, including one that didn't even have it installed when it was "acquired".... they had it installed via the play store and then took control of the device.
The tablet without 3G is not the same beast as it requires working WiFi to do anything. Can't phone home or do anything without it.
The best protection is my data and backing it up OFF the tablet on a regular basis so that if I break my tablet or it gets stolen, I can quickly rebuild a new one with my apps and data in a short time period.

Note 3 Keyboard

Is anyone else seeing a Note 3 Keyboard listed as installed AT THE BOTTOM of your "All" list in google play..... but not showing as installed in your "Installed" list? I am not able to find it anywhere on my device and Samsung on live chat said that they never issued a OTA with a note 3 Keyboard. This is spyware. I can not get rid of it. No matter what I do it comes back after a day or two.

Don't see that. Stock rooted mf9.

This crap won't go away. It keeps coming back. Rooted or not. I never see a notification. It just appears suddenly. I have appnotifier and it shows nothing being installed. I just appears magically. I hate this ****. Whatever it is is deeply embedded in my phone. I notice that when I do a wipe in recovery my data partition doesn't mount. Can you tell me if yours does please? You don't have to wipe anything just see if you can mount and unmount the data partition. Mine says unmounted and will not mount at all. I think this might be part of the problem. The data wipe doesn't really happen, and this Keyboard is in that part that isn't getting wiped. That is the only thing I can think on how it keeps coming back no matter what I do. PIT files and numerous firmwares, and nothing removes it permanently. If you could tell me if yours mounts...That would help me a lot. Thanks

Sleepycloud said:
This crap won't go away. It keeps coming back. Rooted or not. I never see a notification. It just appears suddenly. I have appnotifier and it shows nothing being installed. I just appears magically. I hate this ****. Whatever it is is deeply embedded in my phone. I notice that when I do a wipe in recovery my data partition doesn't mount. Can you tell me if yours does please? You don't have to wipe anything just see if you can mount and unmount the data partition. Mine says unmounted and will not mount at all. I think this might be part of the problem. The data wipe doesn't really happen, and this Keyboard is in that part that isn't getting wiped. That is the only thing I can think on how it keeps coming back no matter what I do. PIT files and numerous firmwares, and nothing removes it permanently. If you could tell me if yours mounts...That would help me a lot. Thanks
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Take a screenshot because I really dont understand what your saying. I dont have such problem with keyboard and what recovery you are using?
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ROMANTiC KiD said:
Take a screenshot because I really dont understand what your saying. I dont have such problem with keyboard and what recovery you are using?
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Here are some screenshots and a little more info.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102254187406524404989/posts

I have it. On triforce. Figured it's a google bug or a remnant from a 4.3 "funflash"
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galland1 said:
I have it. On triforce. Figured it's a google bug or a remnant from a 4.3 "funflash"
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I talked with Samsung. They said it is not a legit Samsung app and it was never rolled out to any S4 OTA or included in any OEM firmware. I think I know where it came from. Did you ever flash firmware from Galaxys4root.com? That is just a hunch of mine. May not be the source at all. But after I flashed that firmware I noticed lots of extra b.s. going on and found it. It shows on my phone, but not when I look at my play orders on my computer. Samsung said it's not really linked to Google play at all. That is why you can't leave a review or report the app. Try that and you'll see. The creator was cleaver enough to give it the appearance of a legit Google apps so that it will install on your phone without being blocked. Have you ever looked on your device for it? I can't find anything and my appnotifier and lookout never pick it up. It just magically appears once I root or allow install of apps from unknown sources.

Can anyone tell me if maybe my SIM card needs to be changed? Like is it possible that this Note 3 Keyboard keeps coming back because of the personal information or MEID contained on my phone? LIke, I did a full reflash with PIT files, and pulled the battery and did a factory reset from recovery before I let it boot. It still came back after about a day with no updates at all.
Would some of you more skilled people give me some ideas to try and maybe explain or suggest how this can be happening? Like is it possible that a new partition has been created that does not get rewritten with PIT file and firmware? Please... I want this **** off my phone! Any suggestions are gonna be appreciated and tested. I know somebody has an idea of what is happening here....Thanks for reading this.

Ever find the answer to this?
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i too have this note 3 keyboard, did anybody find out what this is all about or if there is nothing to it?

matraca said:
i too have this note 3 keyboard, did anybody find out what this is all about or if there is nothing to it?
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All I know is that I talked to Samsung via live chat and they said that it is not affiliated with Samsung in any way and a Note 3 keyboard should not be on any Galaxy S4. Go to live chat yourselves and ask questions. Sprint told me that I can get a new one on my warranty but there is a $50 surcharge. The Tech at sprint said it's not affiliated with Google play. It just has some of the API's to trick the phone into letting it install. I don't kow for sure where it came from. I've flashed so many ROM's and firmwares that it is impossible to pinpoint it. I got a feeling that a lot of people will find it if they look for it. At least the ones that are flashers will anyways.
I've tried deleting everything but when the new ROM loads and I look through the files, I'm still finding folders and files with week old dates on them. I'm not sure how that is happening. I'm dying to get to the bottom of this. Help me keep this thread bumped so more people will see it. Hopefully someone will give us the right info to get rid of it.

I see the same thing I'm on stock.
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Sleepycloud said:
All I know is that I talked to Samsung via live chat and they said that it is not affiliated with Samsung in any way and a Note 3 keyboard should not be on any Galaxy S4.
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I would say they are full of it. That app is from Samsung. I have a friend with a Note 3 and it updated itself using that app. Now why it is showing on the S4 is probably just some glitch in there programming, or because they are working on a 4.3 update for the S4. I also have it on mine. Once the new update comes out for the S4 I suspect it will have the new keyboard and the app will then work.

Delete the Samsung keyboard lol. I did.

Well I went to the mall yesterday and a friend of mine has a note 3 and he has that keyboard as well, also the link on the playstore takes you to the korean or japanese samsung website. I am beggining to think is just a glitch. I also have the stock samsung keyboard removed and use swiftkey.

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Delete the Samsung keyboard lol. I did.
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I did too. The note 3 keyboard still shows as installed.

matraca said:
Well I went to the mall yesterday and a friend of mine has a note 3 and he has that keyboard as well, also the link on the play store takes you to the korean or japanese samsung website. I am beginning to think is just a glitch. I also have the stock samsung keyboard removed and use swiftkey.
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I'm certain that somebody has exploited the keyboard. It wasn't on my phone when it was stock unrooted right from the store. It only showed up after flashing back to "stock" firmware. In which one instance I was seeing lots of bogus crap going on. Apps where getting flashed right over the top of the little green android. In the applications manager you could see the little green Android behind numerous app icons. They all had a little something extra. My phone was doing all sorts of neat crap on it's own. Somebody had complete control of my device. That came from galaxys4root.com Flash that **** and you'll see for yourself. Everything was tainted. The play store, the play services It was like it was in a war, it would have two updates for the same thing showing in pull down notification window. One real, one bogus. The first time I flashed it, I just hit updtae on everything. When I noticed all the funny stuff, I re-flashed it and paid attention to all the updates. All of the Samsung apps were tainted, It would go back and forth updating and then updating back to the other. Thats what made me notice the differences. It kept updating the same apps over and over. That is when I noticed that they were different.

Sleepycloud said:
I did too. The note 3 keyboard still shows as installed.
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Delete all the files associated with it.

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Delete all the files associated with it.
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I did. It still shows as installed. I cut everything out. Even everything that had input devices in the name. It still shows as installed. When I factory reset it is not there for anywhere from 12 hours to 24 hours. My phone is fast as hell, scrolls like a champ and the battery lasts all day on one charge. Like 16 to 18 hours. As soon as that keyboard shows up it slows down, acts funny and gets laggy. The battery is disappearing like crazy. I have to charge it twice a day to make it till I get home. It might be a legit app for many, but I'm positive that someone has exploited the app and is using it in firmware as a information collector, and it does not go away no matter what I do. I'm wondering if it is in my efs partition... if that is even possible. What I know is that with Android, almost anything is possible. If you can think it, someone can code it.