I'd like to install an anti theft app on my n7. I've got Where's My Droid on my phone, but the thing is, the nexus doesn't have a data signal to access its GPS location at the drop of a dime.... it would only be able to be tracked if it is currently connected to WiFi, right? If it wasn't connected to WiFi then there would be no way to track it that I can think of. Anyways, what are some good anti theft apps that you guys are using?
Another question, has any used Tablet Talk, or so,etching similar? Its an app that sync your phone and tablet together which allows text messages to be sent front your nexus, but it uses your mobile number. Are there any other apps out there like this? Would really love to hear about some experiences with Tablet Talk or similar apps so I know what I should purchase. Thanks in advance.
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Cerberus. Paid, but worth it. Got my SGS2 back with it.
thcaddict said:
I'd like to install an anti theft app on my n7. I've got Where's My Droid on my phone, but the thing is, the nexus doesn't have a data signal to access its GPS location at the drop of a dime.... it would only be able to be tracked if it is currently connected to WiFi, right? If it wasn't connected to WiFi then there would be no way to track it that I can think of. Anyways, what are some good anti theft apps that you guys are using?
Another question, has any used Tablet Talk, or so,etching similar? Its an app that sync your phone and tablet together which allows text messages to be sent front your nexus, but it uses your mobile number. Are there any other apps out there like this? Would really love to hear about some experiences with Tablet Talk or similar apps so I know what I should purchase. Thanks in advance.
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i was using Lookout (and disabled the anti-virus stuff), but i believe most people prefer Cerberus...i think it's $3 in GP right now. check out some demos/reviews on youtube.
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i was using Lookout (and disabled the anti-virus stuff), but i believe most people prefer Cerberus...i think it's $3 in GP right now. check out some demos/reviews on youtube.
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What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.
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What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.
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You're giving the common criminal too much credit. Most of the time these people are looking to sell it for a few dollars.
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What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.
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You can install Cerberus as a system app and it will withstand a factory reset. However, if they decide to flash a new ROM you are screwed. But you are pretty much right about once you lose it is is gone since it has to be connected to WiFi to send back data.
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I have Cerberus.. but it most likely will be useless... unless it is taken like at work where I already have Wi-Fi setup on it, it will never be able to phone home and the pattern lock will prevent the new owner from setting up a new access point without having to wipe the unit anyway because it will get locked out.
A phone is a different beast altogether.
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For the "no known wifi" problem I use "wefi pro automatic wifi" or "wifi buddy beta". Both will try to scan and connect your tablet to open networks.
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For the "no known wifi" problem I use "wefi pro automatic wifi" or "wifi buddy beta". Both will try to scan and connect your tablet to open networks.
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That's good to know. I'll be sure to try those out.
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krelvinaz said:
I have Cerberus.. but it most likely will be useless... unless it is taken like at work where I already have Wi-Fi setup on it, it will never be able to phone home and the pattern lock will prevent the new owner from setting up a new access point without having to wipe the unit anyway because it will get locked out.
A phone is a different beast altogether.
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Yea, phones are a different thing... not only do you have the opportunity to track but also they are tagged to a network. But a WiFi only tab... even with an autowifi app.. the chances of both apps running at the time stolen and connected to WiFi are really slim. Besides the fact that you couldn't go busting in a residence just because you knew it was in there......
+1 Cerberus good support too
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thcaddict said:
I'd like to install an anti theft app on my n7. I've got Where's My Droid on my phone, but the thing is, the nexus doesn't have a data signal to access its GPS location at the drop of a dime.... it would only be able to be tracked if it is currently connected to WiFi, right? If it wasn't connected to WiFi then there would be no way to track it that I can think of. Anyways, what are some good anti theft apps that you guys are using?
Another question, has any used Tablet Talk, or so,etching similar? Its an app that sync your phone and tablet together which allows text messages to be sent front your nexus, but it uses your mobile number. Are there any other apps out there like this? Would really love to hear about some experiences with Tablet Talk or similar apps so I know what I should purchase. Thanks in advance.
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Bought Cerberus myself and a few coworkers bought it too. Love the features.
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Nexus 7 do have gps integrated unsure if it can sync the position on cerberus server without wifi
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Assuming that your tab has some sort of pin/pattern lock/face unlock protection and your Wi-Fi is always on, then there shouldn't be much problem for the auto-Wi-Fi app to connect and enable access for Cerberus. Mind you that wefi pro DOES start on boot.
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Yea, phones are a different thing... not only do you have the opportunity to track but also they are tagged to a network. But a WiFi only tab... even with an autowifi app.. the chances of both apps running at the time stolen and connected to WiFi are really slim. Besides the fact that you couldn't go busting in a residence just because you knew it was in there......
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Assuming that your tab has some sort of pin/pattern lock/face unlock protection and your Wi-Fi is always on, then there shouldn't be much problem for the auto-Wi-Fi app to connect and enable access for Cerberus. Mind you that wefi pro DOES start on boot.
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Except if course that using open Wi-Fi is insecure...but if you are willing to do that, it might be a solution...you would need to test it first.
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I have Avast installed on my Nexus 7. Don't care for the AV, but it does have built in anti theft, where if your N7 is rooted, it can bury itself deep in the system and survive hard-resets. Not sure how well it does, and hope never to find out, but it looks alright. There are probably similar apps out there.
Avast here too. AV does seem to slow some things down some, I guess I'll turn it off. The "locate" feature works well with Google Voice number. Turns on your GPS then sends location to GV (on a PC). Only time I hope to need it is if I leave my Nexus somewhere and I need to remember where (hoping it wasn't stolen). I'm a bit paranoid since I recently had a phone stolen with no security software on it.
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What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.
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Not with cerebrus.
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I have Cerberus.. but it most likely will be useless... unless it is taken like at work where I already have Wi-Fi setup on it, it will never be able to phone home and the pattern lock will prevent the new owner from setting up a new access point without having to wipe the unit anyway because it will get locked out.
A phone is a different beast altogether.
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Actually you can flash cerebrus and even if they wipe it will still be there.
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What is the point... besides a password how would a tracking app help. They will just wipe the tab anyway doesn't even need to be booted. If it's password protected its not going to connect to unknown networks anyway. So either way you look at it you lose it its gone. If you left it open counting on them to connect it good luck...lol if they are smart enough to steal it I'm pretty sure they understand how to do a factory reset.
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Passwords aren't going to get your tablet back. IMO, the biggest risk of losing a tablet is accidently leaving it someplace. I have a business card taped to the protective case of my Nexus and have the app "Android Lost" installed. If my tablet is found by an honest person, then they will call the number on the business card and all is well. If it is found by someone not so honest, the odds of them being sophisticated enough to know how to "wipe the tab" are slim to none. It is more likely that if they are stopped by a passwork, they'll just ditch the tab in the trash or try to "get a reward" by calling me. Without a password, they'll probably at least use it long enough to run down the battery. In that case I at least have a chance of locating it via "Android Lost".
edit: If I were a student, using my tablet "on campus" everyday, I might reconsider the risk. The "campus environment" probably is more conducive to actually having a tablet stolen.
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Even if that were true, so what?
You are missing the point.
Okay. I'm at a conference and and look away and someone grabs my Nexus 7. I was using WiFi via my phone since I never use WiFi from unsecure sources. They run away and hours later turn it on. Password is required. They don't know it and after X number attempts the tablet is now locked.
The tablet is not going to connect to any WiFi near them because it is setup to not allow unsecure WiFi connections.
How is cerebrus going to help me find my Tablet ??? It won't, it can't. If they can't use the Tablet (its locked out now right), it doesn't matter if Cerebrus is on it or not.
On a device with 3G, We are talking about something totally different. and I use Android Lost for that. Works great and I know a couple people who found their phones with it, including one that didn't even have it installed when it was "acquired".... they had it installed via the play store and then took control of the device.
The tablet without 3G is not the same beast as it requires working WiFi to do anything. Can't phone home or do anything without it.
The best protection is my data and backing it up OFF the tablet on a regular basis so that if I break my tablet or it gets stolen, I can quickly rebuild a new one with my apps and data in a short time period.
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I was wondering if you guys the following software on your new phone installed by default.
Qik
App brain
Skype
Quadrant
Speed test
Because when I got my phone from best buy it was already there and I am wondering if I got a used phone.
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None of those apps were preinstalled on the 2 NS's I bought on 12.16. Looks like someone played with/used it before you got it.
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I agree with Herr Bauhaus, app brain alone proves the phone's been played with before you got it.
Disappointing to hear that Best Buy is slipping returned phones into the "new" bin. If nothing else, they should have given you an "open box" discount. I'd take it back and demand that, or a new one. Turn it on before leaving the store and make sure nothing on the phone.
Thanks...this is disappointing. Shame on you best buy
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just some more confirmation, none of those apps should of been on the phone, you got a used device. Take it back and demand a new one, also as someone else said, open it in store.
if it still has the film over the screen telling you how to turn it on then thats a good sign but best to still turn it on and make sure no other apps are there.
Gingerbread auto-restores apps, are you certain this is not the case?
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Gingerbread auto-restores apps, are you certain this is not the case?
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this is a possibility
If you had them on your old android phone that's why they are there. I suppose best buy installed you stored wifi passwords too
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well.. when you first turn on the phone, it does say Welcome to Nexus S... so thats a indicator if it was used or not
Slapinfunk said:
If you had them on your old android phone that's why they are there. I suppose best buy installed you stored wifi passwords too
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He never said his wifi passwords were restored, and if it were Google restoring apps via the backup feature from an old phone, wouldn't it restore ALL his old apps? I doubt those were the only apps he had installed on his old phone, if he even had one...I guess we should ask him (did you, OP?).
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He never said his wifi passwords were restored, and if it were Google restoring apps via the backup feature from an old phone, wouldn't it restore ALL his old apps? I doubt those were the only apps he had installed on his old phone, if he even had one...I guess we should ask him (did you, OP?).
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It will restore as many as it can, depending on a couple variables. One variable being reception. If you are turning on your phone for the first time in a location with crappy signal, you will probably only get a partial, if any, app restore. I speak from experience here.
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It will restore as many as it can, depending on a couple variables. One variable being reception. If you are turning on your phone for the first time in a location with crappy signal, you will probably only get a partial, if any, app restore. I speak from experience here.
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And the rest will never come in after the first attempt? Not a very reliable system, then.
I remember it working for me once with my Nexus 1 way back when, but it's never worked reliably when switching to any other phone.
Of course also on the app restore issue there will be a notification letting you know that X number of apps were restored (or if there was a partial restore as well, I believe).
Whatever happened to the OP?
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Of course also on the app restore issue there will be a notification letting you know that X number of apps were restored (or if there was a partial restore as well, I believe).
Whatever happened to the OP?
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There's no restore notification as far as I know.
My apps and settings didn't restore when I replaced my nexus s. I have backup my data and automatic restore enabled, and did on the previous phone too.
in the end it's quite clear the OP got a "used" phone from the "new" phone pile from BestBuy
it might have even been from some of us here in XDA that found some defect and sent it back (j/k)
if i were you, i'd got back to complain at BB, and get a new unit
as mentioned by the guys above, you should get a WELCOME screen, touch here to begin your setup wizard.... blah blah blah, and no weird software should be installed
you can also go into Phone> Settings> About, and check on the usage status
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There's no restore notification as far as I know.
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That's odd, I always get a restore notification letting me know how many apps were reinstalled after changing devices or wiping/restoring.
Thanks guys for the answers. Quick update. I went back to BB to replace the phone and got a new one. No more extra apps.
I also noticed that this time the screen was no longer a finger print magnet either. They must have cleaned the previous phone and stripped the anti-smudge coating.
Problem: This time around though, I have a problem with the back button being stuck sometimes -- checking on xda forums and google forums, it looks like this is a hardware issue. Guess this phone is going back too. Too bad.
Maybe i'll just wait and see what happens to the GT-i9023.....
No for me. I did not own an android phone before (well, except for the 2 weeks I owned a Vibrant last summer), but I never had Skype or Qik installed, so it is not possible that this is a restore.
This was a used phone from Best Buy.
Hey guys and gals,
Tonight my a500 was stolen. I work in sales and use it to look things on the net for customers (like price comparisons, etc) and use it for the website and lots of other business-type things (as well as lots of personal pics etc).
But, unfortunately when my back was turned, someone swiped it...!!!! argh:angry:
I had the newest release of jellybean on it from the forums here on xda, but had no remote wipe app installed (never even crossed my mind to do it). Therefore, I'm wondering if the is any remote wipe abilities in jellybean or if there was an app by chance that i had installed that would have this feature hidden (like onavo or norton utilities... reading now).
If anyone can help that would be amazing! Changed all my passwords, etc. So, I should be fine there. thanks guys
k
kylereid said:
Hey guys and gals,
Tonight my a500 was stolen. I work in sales and use it to look things on the net for customers (like price comparisons, etc) and use it for the website and lots of other business-type things (as well as lots of personal pics etc).
But, unfortunately when my back was turned, someone swiped it...!!!! argh:angry:
I had the newest release of jellybean on it from the forums here on xda, but had no remote wipe app installed (never even crossed my mind to do it). Therefore, I'm wondering if the is any remote wipe abilities in jellybean or if there was an app by chance that i had installed that would have this feature hidden (like onavo or norton utilities... reading now).
If anyone can help that would be amazing! Changed all my passwords, etc. So, I should be fine there. thanks guys
k
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Sorry mate. Not a lot you can do about it at this time.
Just cherish the thought of what's going to happen when he decides jb is too buggy, and tries to install a different rom. :laugh:
I suppose a new user will be posting all kinds of questions here at xda in the near future!
Still sorry to hear it got pinched. I know the feeling.
MD
thanks man. thought i was buggered lol. I left a facebook update that i hope shows up on the notifications in the tablet and make the culprit feel guilty. maybe it'll show up in the morning at work... fingers crossed. made me look at getting a wipe app for the old phone now, went with seekdroid. seems legit. any other suggestions?
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thanks man. thought i was buggered lol. I left a facebook update that i hope shows up on the notifications in the tablet and make the culprit feel guilty. maybe it'll show up in the morning at work... fingers crossed. made me look at getting a wipe app for the old phone now, went with seekdroid. seems legit. any other suggestions?
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Well, I don't have a lot of faith in those types of apps. They usually only work if an idiot steals it. Over here, pinching phones and tabs is big business, and usually done by pro's. They're quick to dump the device to another agent, who runs a stock full rom on it, clones the IMEI number from a good device , then dumps it to one of the umpteen million fly by night resellers. They (moscow govt) talked about cracking down on multiple PH number/IMEI combinations, then quickly realized over half the devices in Russia would stop working! Including their own!
Best thing to do, never let it out of your sight. Get a new device, like I did my phone, and the pain goes away.
But then again, maybe your culprit is a true idiot, and will post fotos to your facebook account!!!!!
MD
WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem
Did you try that Plan B yet or is that just over advertised junk?
Moscow Desire said:
Well, I don't have a lot of faith in those types of apps. They usually only work if an idiot steals it. Over here, pinching phones and tabs is big business, and usually done by pro's. They're quick to dump the device to another agent, who runs a stock full rom on it, clones the IMEI number from a good device , then dumps it to one of the umpteen million fly by night resellers. They (moscow govt) talked about cracking down on multiple PH number/IMEI combinations, then quickly realized over half the devices in Russia would stop working! Including their own!
Best thing to do, never let it out of your sight. Get a new device, like I did my phone, and the pain goes away.
But then again, maybe your culprit is a true idiot, and will post fotos to your facebook account!!!!!
MD
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The last person to steal one of my phones was a true idiot. This happened at my school and good thing I'm done with school. I was in class and had my phone charging and I had it out because I trusted most everyone in the room and would known who would have taken it.
So he asked if it was my phone and about a minute later he leaves the room. I noticed it was gone and others around me saw him take it. (Not obvious at all)
So I had the Vipre Mobile Security beta installed so I immediately logged into the web interface to activate GPS tracking and set off the alarm. Except when I logged in the service hadn't communicated when the app/phone in over a month so it was useless.
Over the period of the next 24 hours he had used the phone to take photos, delete everything on my sdcard, spam my YouTube feed with countless videos, and make voice calls to their own friends and family. So I looked on my carrier's account management and found all these numbers. Between the school staff and police it was possible to track the calls back to his identity. I got my phone back the next day...without the case and screen protector, sucks that they kept that.
So the lesson is make sure you have good, working anti theft solutions with cascading failsafes.
The next app I installed after ditching Vipre was Avast. This was a good solution with some flaws. Avast was one of the first Play Store security apps to utilize root access. Because of root in addition to setting as a device administrator it was also installed as a system service and app. This made it persistent and harder to remove.
The issue with avast was since the app was in /system and not /data it would have to be completely reconfigured after flashing each nightly update. Sometimes I'd forget and then it wouldn't work. It claimed to support the CM backup script except it was designed for CM7 and CM9 uses a different type of backup.
The other issue with avast was there was no web interface. You could only send commands through SMS.
Since I got my Nexus I bought Cerberus anti theft its perfect. It has system app support. Instead of a user setup it apparently registers the device ID or SIM or something and loads the user account from the cloud server. So all I do is add the apk to the CM backup list and it auto configures when installed. I can use SMS control or the website. I can monitor and control pretty much the entire phone and it takes a front camera photo on invalid pass code.
I check weekly to ensure its still running and it hasn't failed once.
As a failsafe I also have the first screen splash modded to my contact info in case of loss. Its encrypted so if anything maybe only a boot loader update could remove it.
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WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem
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I think that only works if you accept all the tracking disclaimers to enable location history and not many people have history turned on.
I guess the lesson is you can't let your guard down for even a second. One time I let a friend sync their iPod touch on my computer since they didn't have a PC and they ended up snatching my classic monochrome iPod. I'm still upset to this day since they didn't take my old iPod touch instead. That just proves the first gen iPod touch is so bad people won't even steal it.
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I think that only works if you accept all the tracking disclaimers to enable location history and not many people have history turned on.
I guess the lesson is you can't let your guard down for even a second. One time I let a friend sync their iPod touch on my computer since they didn't have a PC and they ended up snatching my classic monochrome iPod. I'm still upset to this day since they didn't take my old iPod touch instead. That just proves the first gen iPod touch is so bad people won't even steal it.
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oh yea def' just thought for pot-luck ,
it is a pitty when you let someone come into your house as a friendly gesture only to find them stealing from you,... ive had my fair share and also a fair share of miss-understandings thereafter because of a newly aquired paranoia..... but i think its 100% justified.
If you download the lookout app and install it, if you ever lose your tablet, on the lookout website you can see where it is, (if GPS was enabled when lost) you can also do a remote wipe, and a remote siren, make it put off an alarm remotely.
Its a good app to have just in case, but doesn't help if the app was not installed before being lost or stolen.
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If you download the lookout app and install it, if you ever lose your tablet, on the lookout website you can see where it is, (if GPS was enabled when lost) you can also do a remote wipe, and a remote siren, make it put off an alarm remotely.
Its a good app to have just in case, but doesn't help if the app was not installed before being lost or stolen.
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yeah sound like the prey app too , i can also send a popup message to the tab screen, be near the location displayed on the map and then activate a "S-SCARING" siren lol
also one good thing is prey uses the location services through wifi as well as gps, tells you the address of the current and last wifi hotspots logged into
so if it says currently "wii hotspot mcdonalds fast food , thief street. lol go to the mcdonalds and set off the alarms,...clearly see your tablet...and a jackass who need a beating. :highfive::highfive::highfive::highfive:
chismay said:
WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem
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hey man, great idea! no luck...
and thanks guys for al of the advice! still no luck with the tab i think the worst part of it is was that i was really getting to love it. like the development here, especially with jb!, is fantastic. and i was a kickstarter supporter for chameleon and now seeing the new updates really puts salt on the wound. lol. in the next month i'll need another tablet, so im debating on finding another 2nd hand one for the price of a nexus 7, or just getting the 7. only thing is though, is the size....
thanks again.
I'm assuming you've looked into "Plan B" on the Android market, right? It automatically installs from the market on your tablet, and broadcasts location immediately on install. Not sure how accurate or helpful it is, but if you haven't tried it yet... you probably should.
The other option is to put out some Wanted To Buy ads...
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I'm assuming you've looked into "Plan B" on the Android market, right? It automatically installs from the market on your tablet, and broadcasts location immediately on install. Not sure how accurate or helpful it is, but if you haven't tried it yet... you probably should.
The other option is to put out some Wanted To Buy ads...
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i already changed the passwords, i wasn't aware of Plan B. great idea though! i tried it anyways lol.
and yeah ive been scouring kijiji and craigslist like a fiend
This is my first time having an NFC device, so please bear with me. I rooted my phone the evening I received it. Now I'm trying to set up Google Wallet, and it says that my device is unsupported. In the help topic regarding this message, it mentions something about rooted devices being unsupported due to security reasons, can I still use this feature? Is it discouraged in any way?
If anybody has some insight or experience with this, I'd like to know.
I have the evo lte rooted with same unsupported device message, yes it will still work
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This is my first time having an NFC device, so please bear with me. I rooted my phone the evening I received it. Now I'm trying to set up Google Wallet, and it says that my device is unsupported. In the help topic regarding this message, it mentions something about rooted devices being unsupported due to security reasons, can I still use this feature? Is it discouraged in any way?
If anybody has some insight or experience with this, I'd like to know.
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The reason it is discouraged is because anyone (with the now-how) can brute-force access your pin if your phone is rooted. And then skip away making payments on goodies.
What would be the chances of someone getting that close to you, they would have to be pretty much hugging you
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What would be the chances of someone getting that close to you, they would have to be pretty much hugging you
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oh hey josh nice phone come here a sec *hugs* now stay like this for about 5 minutes kthx.
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
llblwskydrgn said:
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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Any place that has tap-to-pay or pay-pass features (forgot what the actual name is). I've seen it at McDonald's, CVS/Walgreens, Best Buy, and a few other large chains around town.
llblwskydrgn said:
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
So it doesn't have to be specifically for google wallet? They work on the things like the speedpass at speedway or your creditcard where you just tap it to the machine and it gets your infO?
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Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
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Awesome! Looking forward to trying this out in the next few weeks. Hope I remember to try it when I see it...
I tried to use this at Walgreens today. They had the translucent blue PayPass terminal. I sat there for about 30 seconds and nothing happened. I even tried to enter the app and still nothing. NFC was on, and my card is attached in Google Wallet.
I think I set up wallet, then unlocked and rooted, then had to re-set up Wallet. Am I doing something wrong? The clerk was staring at me like I was crazy, just holding my phone next to the terminal....
eksasol said:
Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
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I've been living in China all my life. What are your taking about?
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coalesce said:
I tried to use this at Walgreens today. They had the translucent blue PayPass terminal. I sat there for about 30 seconds and nothing happened. I even tried to enter the app and still nothing. NFC was on, and my card is attached in Google Wallet.
I think I set up wallet, then unlocked and rooted, then had to re-set up Wallet. Am I doing something wrong? The clerk was staring at me like I was crazy, just holding my phone next to the terminal....
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I had that happen at Taco Bueno. And a McDonalds. But at some McDonalds it works. I think that so few people use this system that when its broken no one complains. And its probably never even tested when they set it up.
Typically you can just tap your phone to the thing (no need to be in the app). It'll prompt you for a PIN. Then you can pay.
If it's not working you may have a poor data connection? I think it requires data to work.
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Can't upload photospheres either if you're rooted
ackliph said:
I had that happen at Taco Bueno. And a McDonalds. But at some McDonalds it works. I think that so few people use this system that when its broken no one complains. And its probably never even tested when they set it up.
Typically you can just tap your phone to the thing (no need to be in the app). It'll prompt you for a PIN. Then you can pay.
If it's not working you may have a poor data connection? I think it requires data to work.
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Ohhh that's what I love about my area, HSPA+ EVERYWHERE . I guess I'll try some other stores out...
llblwskydrgn said:
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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I'd still say it's more secure than that. Anyone can swipe a card and charge it as credit. Relatively few people would know how to brute force hack google wallet on a rooted device.
Everyone.
Google wallet does not require a data connection.
If its not working , I read on the wallet website to "hold it about an inch" from the terminal. Without placing it on the terminal. Try to see if that works.
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Yeah mine didn't work at the gas station the other day, though I didn't log out of Google Wallet before I flashed a rom and rooted recently so some say that it'll never work again after that because of the secure element getting locked or something like that. Hopefully that's not true.
I've flashed and reflashed a lot. All you need to do is delete the data, connect to high speed internet like WiFi, then open it up. Worked for me.
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Alright guys. Anyone else here having cell broadcast issues? This thing keeps going off telling me there is a blizzard warning. Like 3 times a day.
We were under a blizzard a week ago tomorrow. I got the warning. Okay...cool... then I got another one the following day. Then like 3 more the day after. I've gotten maybe 12 since then. We are absolutely not under a blizzard warning.
The way I understand it, cell broadcast is declared by govt or whoever is issuing the broadcast. They then contact phone company and tell them where to send the broadcast to. They can push nationally, regionally, locally whatever. The cell company just pages it to certain towers to target the correct people the broadcast is supposed to go to.
I read up a bit and saw that there have been some issues with the system earning wrong people etc. But I didn't see anything where people got like 15 wrong messages. I checked around my neighborhood (trying to make sure asking people pinging the same tower) and pretty much everyone with a relatively new phone got that initial broadcast. No one has received any others. So I'm just like WTF?
from what I can tell the broadcast is a one and done deal. The cell company pings the tower, beams the message, done. There shouldn't be any software issues that can affect it that I can think of. But why then has no one else in my neighborhood (or even town) gotten more than one message?
I'm stock. Not even rooted. Did unlock boot loader. I can't imagine I've messed anything up considering I haven't done anything to the phone.
Any ideas?
Attached screen grab showing 3 broadcasts since last night. Previously deleted the others. Also screen grab showing no bad weather.
And holy mother [email protected]&#er just got another one while typing this.
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No advice on this. They keep coming and t mobile is useless.
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thos25 said:
No advice on this. They keep coming and t mobile is useless.
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You can just disable the cell broadcast? I know cell broadcast is a good idea (kinda), but if it doesn't really work then you just have to disable it.
It is under Settings -> Wireless and Network -> More -> Cellbroadcast.
Using CM10.1 on mine and Cell Broadcast is gone kinda but maybe it's good I don't have it!
Was happy to see that AOSP 4.2 finally supported it though. I'ms ure CM will do it soon but definitely something wrong with the implementation if you keep getting the same warning over and over.
KyraOfFire said:
You can just disable the cell broadcast? I know cell broadcast is a good idea (kinda), but if it doesn't really work then you just have to disable it.
It is under Settings -> Wireless and Network -> More -> Cellbroadcast.
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Thanks. Was hoping to get to the root of the problem rather than disable them. Oh well though they really aren't that useful I guess anyhow.
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thos25 said:
Thanks. Was hoping to get to the root of the problem rather than disable them. Oh well though they really aren't that useful I guess anyhow.
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For most of them, looking out the window is just as effective, and in the case of major weather events, they're usually big news beforehand.
So yeah, not that useful.
What's up XDA,
Trying to delete Wi-Fi calling from my wife's T-Mobile Galaxy Note 3. But, I can't seem to get it all.
Here is what I've done so far:
1. Rooted
2. Installed Titanium Backup
3. Blew away all T-Mobile junk apps
However wifi calling is labeled differently somehow than on previous devices. Because I know longer see an option for it but when I activate wifi it comes on???
Does anyone know the exact things to delete to totally remove wifi calling?
apollostees said:
What's up XDA,
Trying to delete Wi-Fi calling from my wife's T-Mobile Galaxy Note 3. But, I can't seem to get it all.
Here is what I've done so far:
1. Rooted
2. Installed Titanium Backup
3. Blew away all T-Mobile junk apps
However wifi calling is labeled differently somehow than on previous devices. Because I know longer see an option for it but when I activate wifi it comes on???
Does anyone know the exact things to delete to totally remove wifi calling?
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I don't know how to get rid of it, but please tell me why you want to.
Even if you don't want to use it now there's a good chance you'll need it later.
I work in Atlanta and in many office buildings the T-Mobile cell signal is horrible. I suppose it's something to do with the metal frames.
I also get little or no signal in some businesses with metal roofs, like Lowes, Home Depot, and soon. When I go to that sort of place I can often still get & pace calls because of the WiFi calling.
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gnik luap said:
I don't know how to get rid of it, but please tell me why you want to.
Even if you don't want to use it now there's a good chance you'll need it later.
I work in Atlanta and in many office buildings the T-Mobile cell signal is horrible. I suppose it's something to do with the metal frames.
I also get little or no signal in some businesses with metal roofs, like Lowes, Home Depot, and soon. When I go to that sort of place I can often still get & pace calls because of the WiFi calling.
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maybe he's not on t-mobile??? lol
Is just turning it off not an option for you?
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FoeKilla said:
Is just turning it off not an option for you?
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In the end this is what I did. It's weird how it's backed in to the rom, where as it used to be more of an app.