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AOSP Starting to drop *slowly*

Looks like Google is starting to drop AOSP HoneyComb - Slowly albeit. I am not sure if enough has been dropped for JesusFreak to get us a good BakSmalli/Smalli setup though
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/04/12/pieces-honeycomb-hit-aosp-repository/

Kcarpenter said:
Looks like Google is starting to drop AOSP HoneyComb - Slowly all be it. I am not sure if enough has been dropped for JesusFreak to get us a good BakSmalli/Smalli setup though
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/04/12/pieces-honeycomb-hit-aosp-repository/
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its like we have been in the desert forever and google has the only water and they are just trickaling it down to us :O

Kcarpenter said:
all be it
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"albeit". Pet peeve.
Google needs to put the ****ing source out already. If they want to prevent crappy devices with honeycomb, this is the wrong way to do it.
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What's the right way to do it? Because I can't imagine the flak Google will take once the crappy manufacturers get hold of the source code and devices with 128mb of RAM and 400mhz processor are running Honeycomb at glacier speed.
Suddenly people will be saying, "but I thought it was designed for tablets? Honeycomb sucks!"
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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MikeyMike01 said:
"albeit". Pet peeve.
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I know I know, I looked at it after posting and said "That just aint right, oh well..."
Fixed now, was hoping not to get called out.

burden010 said:
What's the right way to do it? Because I can't imagine the flak Google will take once the crappy manufacturers get hold of the source code and devices with 128mb of RAM and 400mhz processor are running Honeycomb at glacier speed.
Suddenly people will be saying, "but I thought it was designed for tablets? Honeycomb sucks!"
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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I don't get that argument at all... Companies want their device to sell not flop. The galaxy tab ran 2.2 simply because honeycomb didn't exist back then. Honestly tho... Who the hell is going to buy a honeycomb phone... ?
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Satisfying GPL/LGPL, and they've been there since January. Nobody noticed until they were recently updated.
twitter.com/jbqueru/status/57875038942138368#
Still unlikely we'll see full Honeycomb in AOSP; Ice Cream will drop soon enough.

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"albeit". Pet peeve.
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For all intensive purposes, you're right!

ChongoDroid said:
I don't get that argument at all... Companies want their device to sell not flop. The galaxy tab ran 2.2 simply because honeycomb didn't exist back then. Honestly tho... Who the hell is going to buy a honeycomb phone... ?
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I get your point but I'm not talking about quality manufacturers like Sammy. I'm talking about all the Chinese knock offs like the apad and those pos resistive things like the Disgo and the Next tab that are available in the UK and I'm sure elsewhere.
These things can't even run Froyo properly, what chance do they have of running Honeycomb?
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wynand32 said:
For all intensive purposes, you're right!
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Heh!
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wynand32 said:
For all intensive purposes, you're right!
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PLEASE tell me that's irony!
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Well the next phones are going to be a mesh of honeycomb and gingerbread so we don't have to worry about a honey only phone which would be as retarded as chicken balls
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Honeycomb 3.2 for SGS2?

The SDK has been released, will we see this on the SGS2 soon?
If not by Samsung by the rom gurus?
http://blog.gsmarena.com/google-releases-android-3-2-honeycomb-sdk-list-of-updates/

Nope. It's for tablets only, and I doubt anyone can manage to port it to our device.
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bruflot said:
Nope. It's for tablets only, and I doubt anyone can manage to port it to our device.
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Ahh ok, thanks, shame though

3.0 was ported to HD2, so it's possible.
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bruflot said:
Nope. It's for tablets only, and I doubt anyone can manage to port it to our device.
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You mean "could be bothered" to port it. I'm sure that someone _could_, but an OS designed for a tablet on a 4.3" screen would be a bit average.
Wait for the Cyanogen guys to port IceCream Sandwich (Android 4.0?) if/when it turns up. By that time Samsung will have dropped the SGS2 like last weeks spam sandwich and will be pushing the SGS3 instead.
Of course, that won't be until around Christmas sometime I'd be guessing.

God dammit, this is about the 3rd topic on the same thing. SDK does not equal the whole os, google have only put out the source for the gpl bits and a lot of android is apache.
And a 3.0 port wouldn't make much sense on a 4.3inch screen
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this is the exact reason why Google hasn't made honeycomb open sourced.
Honeycomb is only meant for tablets. Until people learn to accept that it will remain closed. We've already seen android ruined by sub-par OEMs putting android on their **** hardware.

I hope not, honeycomb looks so messy at the moment

There really is no point putting honeycomb on a phone, the optimisations are mainly just for larger screens. If there is something nice in there it normally gets ripped out and cooked into a ROM or app anyway, its just a waste of time doing a full port IMHO.

huball said:
3.0 was ported to HD2, so it's possible.
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Yeah i remember the thread in question,BUT it was practically useless most functions were not working on the phone.

Then i hope a dev could make a really good honeycomb theme in that case
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Just gotta wait about 2~4 months for ice cream sandwich to release and then a bit longer for update. But it's gonna be awesome
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Honeycomb is just for tablets, ok.
How about ICS?

jonny68 said:
Yeah i remember the thread in question,BUT it was practically useless most functions were not working on the phone.
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Of course, but it was fun to play with
I even played Angry Birds.
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Ice cream sandwich??????

Anybody have any idea if ics will be compatible with the atrix?
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2 threads down from this one is a thread already about this.
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That thread is about the face recognition software, it doesn't answer my question.
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Ramsport said:
That thread is about the face recognition software, it doesn't answer my question.
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Bunch of discussion about whether or not it will work on the Atrix (ics). But whatev.
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Listen to Macgruber... He Rips Throats...!!
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Ramsport said:
That thread is about the face recognition software, it doesn't answer my question.
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Let's put it this way, the Nexus S will be getting ICS, and the Atrix basically has twice the specs. So the Atrix on paper can support ICS.
The bigger question is how the carriers are going to allow this?
Bottom line, whether it's OTA or CM7 we will see ICS in some fashion on the Atrix...
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ccrows said:
Let's put it this way, the Nexus S will be getting ICS, and the Atrix basically has twice the specs. So the Atrix on paper can support ICS.
The bigger question is how the carriers are going to allow this?
Bottom line, whether it's OTA or CM7 we will see ICS in some fashion on the Atrix...
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Agreed, I know that the Atrix will get this in some sort of fashion, the only thing that I "worry" about is the finger-print scanner. I wonder if this will delay the Atrix from getting it sooner, since it is a completely unique device. I just hope the FPS doesn't get left out.

Engadget said most ginger bread devices should get the ota

Ramsport said:
Anybody have any idea if ics will be compatible with the atrix?
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If you did your research properly instead of posting another one of those threads that's people go through again and again, you would definitely know the answer by now.
Have a good day or night.

twayneo said:
Engadget said most ginger bread devices should get the ota
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Source?
I know google had mentioned that devices currently running gingerbread would be able to run ICS (hardware-wise). Its still up to the manufacturers to create those OTA updates...

Of course will be totally compatible with Atrix! Nexus doesnt have a hardware so different to Atrix! This is the difference between Apple and Google. When Apple says about iOS, they put a date and always launch a public final one week later. Now, Android its a blah blah, all depends of third person, its a shame an OS that grows up like this and have like half of customers in world, they treat us like this. shame!

quicklyspent said:
Source?
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He posted the source. Engadget!
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CaelanT said:
He posted the source. Engadget!
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In that case, I read on Engadget that the Atrix will be the first phone to get ICS. Even before the Nexus. Should be pushed sometime tonight.

quicklyspent said:
In that case, I read on Engadget that the Atrix will be the first phone to get ICS. Even before the Nexus. Should be pushed sometime tonight.
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Ha. Im running it now.
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I read somewhere (no source: read at your own risk) that ics is made for omap processors and Tegra devices (ie. Atrix) will take a while longer to develop... At least through official channels - here's hoping to official CM support!
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jivester024 said:
I read somewhere (no source: read at your own risk) that ics is made for omap processors and Tegra devices (ie. Atrix) will take a while longer to develop... At least through official channels - here's hoping to official CM support!
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That would semi sorta explain why Atrix 2 went and put a TI-OMAP Processor in their phone. Interesting.

jivester024 said:
I read somewhere (no source: read at your own risk) that ics is made for omap processors and Tegra devices (ie. Atrix) will take a while longer to develop... At least through official channels - here's hoping to official CM support!
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Wrong. Just like how honeycomb's designated SoC was Tegra 2, the designated SoC for ICS is the OMAP 4. IE Google determined that they were the best SoC available at the time and built their flagship device using that particular processor. It has nothing to do with porting android to various SoCs.

the olympus o2x aint gettings ICS it seems
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308493

andrew.cambridge said:
2 threads down from this one is a thread already about this.
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You are so right. Thread closed.

Ps3 on linux?

I recently found out the Ps3 happens to have the ability to install a full Linux OS. I don't know if this information can be helpful in anyway but id thought maybe with this info/ability it could be used in development....? Let me know what you think..... and if this old news apologies.
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Biggoron said:
I recently found out the Ps3 happens to have the ability to install a full Linux OS. I don't know if this information can be helpful in anyway but id thought maybe with this info/ability it could be used in development....? Let me know what you think..... and if this old news apologies.
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Very old news haha, but they dont anymore not after an update i think it was like 3 something or even 2 something. but anyways none of them have the ability to install any OS anymore unless you downgrade but then its pointless because you cant play games because they require new update and newer features as well that that the newer firmware has incorporated. So unless you got PS3's your SOL.
I'm not too sure if you downgrade and install the OS and then update it if it'll work or not.

actually, unless you have an older PS3 that hasn't been updated in a long time, or hack it.. Sony removed the Other OS option. There was a whole big lawsuit etc over the removal of a "paid for feature."
and soul beats me to it.. lol

Thanks for the insight.... I found this out a while back and I thought it was very cool..... now eh...
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Very old news haha, but they dont anymore not after an update i think it was like 3 something or even 2 something. but anyways none of them have the ability to install any OS anymore unless you downgrade but then its pointless because you cant play games because they require new update and newer features as well that that the newer firmware has incorporated. So unless you got PS3's your SOL.
I'm not too sure if you downgrade and install the OS and then update it if it'll work or not.
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Lololol linux was the first thing I did on my ps3 after I bought it. It worked as expected. I even had limewire on the thing xD then the update came out like 2 years ago and they said to make sure you erase any partitions because you won't get that data back but I tried to call their bluff because how can they take a feature that some people OBVIOUSLY bought it for (I honestly didn't want a ps3 back then cuz the games were wack. I bought it cuz I thought it'd be awesome to treat my gaming system as a PC and use those six cores) but the update ate the 20 or so gigs I had for linux and now I always have 55GB instead of 80 and I can't ***** because they warned me rofl.
But I got over it when the fly games started coming out. I always looked at it as "well people that bought the first ps3 only gots 60 gigs total and that's before partitions come into play so I have adequate memory" ahhah but I do miss linux. I didn't know how to use it at first and now that I think about it it was kinda like android
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Lololol linux was the first thing I did on my ps3 after I bought it. It worked as expected. I even had limewire on the thing xD then the update came out like 2 years ago and they said to make sure you erase any partitions because you won't get that data back but I tried to call their bluff because how can they take a feature that some people OBVIOUSLY bought it for (I honestly didn't want a ps3 back then cuz the games were wack. I bought it cuz I thought it'd be awesome to treat my gaming system as a PC and use those six cores) but the update ate the 20 or so gigs I had for linux and now I always have 55GB instead of 80 and I can't ***** because they warned me rofl.
But I got over it when the fly games started coming out. I always looked at it as "well people that bought the first ps3 only gots 60 gigs total and that's before partitions come into play so I have adequate memory" ahhah but I do miss linux. I didn't know how to use it at first and now that I think about it it was kinda like android
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Never realised how hih tech the ps3 was... no wonder it was so damn expensive when it first came out. 6 cores wtf
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ac16313 said:
Never realised how hih tech the ps3 was... no wonder it was so damn expensive when it first came out. 6 cores wtf
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8 cores to be exact and 3.2Ghz, when the 360 only had a triple core haha fail!
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XxLostSoulxX said:
8 cores to be exact and 3.2Ghz, when the 360 only had a triple core haha fail!
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9
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Dude really was that sarcasm lol no such thing as 9 cores haha.
Anyways 8 cores on intel xeon processor hell yeah. Basically PS3 XMB is linux based to a certain extent
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Sorry i meant six ... the eighth is not used and seventh is reserved for the developers.... Google's CD
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The
eighth SPE is disabled to improve chip
yields. [49][50] Only six of the seven SPEs are
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reserved by the console's operating
system. [50] Graphics processing is handled by
the NVIDIA RSX 'Reality Synthesizer',
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Lol I said 6 because the other 2 are COMPLETELY irrelevant..
But out of curiousity would linux have been able to access them through terminal or something? Like some hacks
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Biggoron said:
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eighth SPE is disabled to improve chip
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You're totally forgetting about the 8th core. It's responsible for the PS3's Security, known as the hypervisor, the latest firmware on PS3 has the last core with the new job of checking the firmware's code for unauthorized modifications (hacked PS3s)
Source: My own knowledge in being an awesome PS3 owner who kept tabs on it.
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Ok, the ps3 is interesting (not as nearly as psp..) but why is this here? It belongs in an off topic thread, or not on xda at all
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8th core may not even work, only 7 are guaranteed to function. higher yields on 7/8 cores than 8/8 cores.

Android 4.2 Key Lime Pie Information

Hello,
Seems like Google's busy again huh?
Notable new features:
-Google Now enhanced
-Google Play enhanced
-Stock Video Player updated
-Project Road Runner to increase your battery life 3 folds
-and more!
Hopefully these improvements do not require any help from Samsung? Gawd if a new hwcomposer is needed etc then we will be out of luck since Samsung probably will ditch us after 4.1...
Let's hear your thoughts.
Source: http://androidandme.com/2012/10/new...ore-customization-center-enhanced-google-now/
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Reservation made.
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Sounds interesting. I can understand Project Roadrunner being legit. Android 4.1 is as smooth as a baby's arse, so improving the battery is understandable. If everything else is true, KLP is going to be amazing.
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okmijnlp said:
Sounds interesting. I can understand Project Roadrunner being legit. Android 4.1 is as smooth as a baby's arse, so improving the battery is understandable. If everything else is true, KLP is going to be amazing.
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Rumours originated from a very accountable source that has been correct in predicting what Google will come out with in every android version so I guess this one is legit?
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MarioFan1998 said:
Let's hear your thoughts.
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This is the I9100 forum, spam somewhere else.

I find it hard to believe that road runner will be implemented to every device that gets the update. Nexus devices most certainly (they get everything) but I think the development to bring that to every device that's able to receive KLP will be too great and time consuming.
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Samsung will not ditch us after Android 4.1 .

anshmiester78900 said:
Samsung will not ditch us after Android 4.1 .
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We hope....
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oinkylicious said:
This is the I9100 forum, spam somewhere else.
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Lol but in fact this is on topic as this is a discussion whether Samsung will ditch us and whether it is possible for KLP to be ported to our phones. :banghead:
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MarioFan1998 said:
Lol but in fact this is on topic as this is a discussion whether Samsung will ditch us and whether it is possible for KLP to be ported to our phones. :banghead:
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It is very possible it could be ported but if it is and there's no official release from Samsung for the i9100 its going to be very hard for the devs to pull apart the sources from another device, (say the i9300) and try to merge it together for ours. Most likely miss alot of key features. Like with JB devs cannot manage to get butter working, and their only hope is when JB is officially released, but even then there's rumours going around that the s3 won't even have a properly working project butter.
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Orkane1989 said:
It is very possible it could be ported but if it is and there's no official release from Samsung for the i9100 its going to be very hard for the devs to pull apart the sources from another device, (say the i9300) and try to merge it together for ours. Most likely miss alot of key features. Like with JB devs cannot manage to get butter working, and their only hope is when JB is officially released, but even then there's rumours going around that the s3 won't even have a properly working project butter.
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You're right. I hope project road runner isn't affected by our exynos...
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Orkane1989 said:
It is very possible it could be ported but if it is and there's no official release from Samsung for the i9100 its going to be very hard for the devs to pull apart the sources from another device, (say the i9300) and try to merge it together for ours. Most likely miss alot of key features. Like with JB devs cannot manage to get butter working, and their only hope is when JB is officially released, but even then there's rumours going around that the s3 won't even have a properly working project butter.
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Butter is not working great on S3 also

I posted about.key lime pie last month. and my thread was closed.. yes until we have a rom based key lime we r not supposed discuss abt it here..

The LG Optimus Nexus will be a monster of a phone with that quad core Krait. There really isn't much reason to buy any other phone for the foreseeable future, unless you want a 13MP camera which the Xperia T ably provides.
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Logi_Ca1 said:
The LG Optimus Nexus will be a monster of a phone with that quad core Krait. There really isn't much reason to buy any other phone for the foreseeable future, unless you want a 13MP camera which the Xperia T ably provides.
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I don't think the majority of flash addicted people on xda will worry to much about the camera quality, but more about the power, support and development that all nexus phones bring.
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I don't think the majority of flash addicted people on xda will worry to much about the camera quality, but more about the power, support and development that all nexus phones bring.
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Precisely my point. If the LG is the only Nexus device released this time round (rumors point to 4 other devices by other brands), I can see XDAers gobbling up the LG Optimus Nexus.
The choice is much easier this time around, unlike the Galaxy Nexus which wasn't that much better spec wise than its contemporaries.

Logi_Ca1 said:
Precisely my point. If the LG is the only Nexus device released this time round (rumors point to 4 other devices by other brands), I can see XDAers gobbling up the LG Optimus Nexus.
The choice is much easier this time around, unlike the Galaxy Nexus which wasn't that much better spec wise than its contemporaries.
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Wouldn't there be a new galaxy nexus soon? I heard its much better. It might come with android 4.2...???
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If project roadrunner is all about the efficiency of the usage of the soc, then it might not work on exynos devices too.
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MarioFan1998 said:
Wouldn't there be a new galaxy nexus soon? I heard its much better. It might come with android 4.2...???
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There's rumors of it as well, but personally at this current point in time I feel that the rumors for the LG Optimus Nexus are more "concrete",if that's the word for it.
Androidauthority has a write up on it:
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-nexus-2-plus-gt-i9260-here-what-we-know-118932/
The specs don't look encouraging. It seems to be only a slight upgrade over the old i9250, and is packing a dual-core A9 CPU.
Now, I realize that not everyone goes for specs, but I'm a specs guy and the Optimus Nexus is the most exciting phone for me in quite a while. :fingers-crossed:
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AFAIK, nobody knows how exactly it's supposed to work right? Maybe it's a rework of the software internals? If I have to guess, maybe it's a radical rewrite of the Dalvik VM to make it much more efficient, or aggressive optimization of Android OS itself.

There will be multiple nexus phones. Don't you guys read the latest news? The nexus program will see huge changes.
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