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Honeycomb 3.2 for SGS2?

The SDK has been released, will we see this on the SGS2 soon?
If not by Samsung by the rom gurus?
http://blog.gsmarena.com/google-releases-android-3-2-honeycomb-sdk-list-of-updates/

Nope. It's for tablets only, and I doubt anyone can manage to port it to our device.
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bruflot said:
Nope. It's for tablets only, and I doubt anyone can manage to port it to our device.
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Ahh ok, thanks, shame though

3.0 was ported to HD2, so it's possible.
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Nope. It's for tablets only, and I doubt anyone can manage to port it to our device.
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You mean "could be bothered" to port it. I'm sure that someone _could_, but an OS designed for a tablet on a 4.3" screen would be a bit average.
Wait for the Cyanogen guys to port IceCream Sandwich (Android 4.0?) if/when it turns up. By that time Samsung will have dropped the SGS2 like last weeks spam sandwich and will be pushing the SGS3 instead.
Of course, that won't be until around Christmas sometime I'd be guessing.

God dammit, this is about the 3rd topic on the same thing. SDK does not equal the whole os, google have only put out the source for the gpl bits and a lot of android is apache.
And a 3.0 port wouldn't make much sense on a 4.3inch screen
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this is the exact reason why Google hasn't made honeycomb open sourced.
Honeycomb is only meant for tablets. Until people learn to accept that it will remain closed. We've already seen android ruined by sub-par OEMs putting android on their **** hardware.

I hope not, honeycomb looks so messy at the moment

There really is no point putting honeycomb on a phone, the optimisations are mainly just for larger screens. If there is something nice in there it normally gets ripped out and cooked into a ROM or app anyway, its just a waste of time doing a full port IMHO.

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3.0 was ported to HD2, so it's possible.
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Yeah i remember the thread in question,BUT it was practically useless most functions were not working on the phone.

Then i hope a dev could make a really good honeycomb theme in that case
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Just gotta wait about 2~4 months for ice cream sandwich to release and then a bit longer for update. But it's gonna be awesome
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Honeycomb is just for tablets, ok.
How about ICS?

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Yeah i remember the thread in question,BUT it was practically useless most functions were not working on the phone.
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Of course, but it was fun to play with
I even played Angry Birds.
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Jelly Bean

will be on galaxy s jelly bean port for the great phone

My cat's breath smells like cat food

ballsofsteel said:
My cat's breath smells like cat food
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lol... mine doesn't want to eat .

dark_knight35 said:
lol... mine doesn't want to eat .
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Achievement unlocked: spam thread using off topic.
OK now to the Thread thema: Don't know, I have a thread with near the same question. But I really hope their will be "CM 10" released soon
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I really can't think of a better way of replying to "will be on galaxy s jelly bean port for the great phone"...should I say "am on galaxy s ice cream sandwich port for the great phone look forward jelly bean port". I'm really sorry for straying off topic.

Cheap thread . Sources are out middle of July, Jelly's faster and spicked with more features than ICS. Shouldn't be hard for our devs to update, but it'll take several weeks till the sources are out.

Well in all seriousness, this "project butter" featured in 4.1 is looking very appealing to me. If this Jelly Bean OS all goes well, I might not have to buy a new phone for maybe another year?

dark_knight35 said:
Cheap thread . Sources are out middle of July, Jelly's faster and spicked with more features than ICS. Shouldn't be hard for our devs to update, but it'll take several weeks till the sources are out.
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@all,seriously why not just get the nexus 7 tablet.jelly bean,200$ and 16 cored!(12 for gpu and 4 for CPU it seems).I don't know any smartphone that costs that much with multi core overkill!!
the price is just tempting,don't even say the thought of buying it hasn't gone thru ur minds
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ballsofsteel said:
Well in all seriousness, this "project butter" featured in 4.1 is looking very appealing to me. If this Jelly Bean OS all goes well, I might not have to buy a new phone for maybe another year?
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it incorporates smooth UI feature pioneered by developers here on xda.also something about CPU and gpu working together and not fighting for resources.
nexus 7 tablet is reasonably future proofed I think btw.except for maybe the ram.

senotrius said:
@all,seriously why not just get the nexus 7 tablet.jelly bean,200$ and 16 cored!(12 for gpu and 4 for CPU it seems).I don't know any smartphone that costs that much with multi core overkill!!
the price is just tempting,don't even say the thought of buying it hasn't gone thru ur minds
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4 Nvidia cores are as good as 1 Intel core. If they release their mobile CPU, this will be a bomb.

i have read that google will provide JB lite due to ics is to heavy for mid end and old phone like our sgs. if it true and we are lucky maybe we get official rom for android 4.1 from samsung. they still provide us GB update untill now because they say that sgs cant support ics. but dont expect much...
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ballsofsteel said:
I really can't think of a better way of replying to "will be on galaxy s jelly bean port for the great phone"...should I say "am on galaxy s ice cream sandwich port for the great phone look forward jelly bean port". I'm really sorry for straying off topic.
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Hehe I'm not a moderator, no need to say sorry. Just was wondering what kind of answers come back if you ask sth serios
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awandroid89 said:
i have read that google will provide JB lite due to ics is to heavy for mid end and old phone like our sgs. if it true and we are lucky maybe we get official rom for android 4.1 from samsung. they still provide us GB update untill now because they say that sgs cant support ics. but dont expect much...
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Sounds too good to be true...

awandroid89 said:
i have read that google will provide JB lite due to ics is to heavy for mid end and old phone like our sgs. if it true and we are lucky maybe we get official rom for android 4.1 from samsung. they still provide us GB update untill now because they say that sgs cant support ics. but dont expect much...
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not happening is what I think.ics runs on 800mhz HTC desire c

senotrius said:
not happening is what I think.ics runs on 800mhz HTC desire c
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sense is different from touchwiz. samsung state that ics+touchwiz is to heavy for our sgs. what we have no is only ics (cm9 or aokp) + laucher and theme.not the real touchwiz system...
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awandroid89 said:
sense is different from touchwiz. samsung state that ics+touchwiz is to heavy for our sgs. what we have no is only ics (cm9 or aokp) + laucher and theme.not the real touchwiz system...
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Sense is surely heavier than Touchwiz.

strickyy said:
Sense is surely heavier than Touchwiz.
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Yet another proof that upgradind sgs to ics wouldnt be impossible because of specs, but major economic waste-why upgrading 2yr old phone to latest android when there are already 2 newer device versions out....there are lots of work with porting such a thing, they would waste lots of money because sgs ist best seller for looooong time now
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SGS will get it from XDA
When Nexus S gets it I´m sure it will be ported to SGS:fingers-crossed:.
I´m jelly for Jelly Bean

Cant wait to see the first porting of jelly bean on my galaxy s...it's really fast!

not far from us d....

Heard that Elite is porting it already ;3
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From GS3 to Galaxy Nexus back to Gs3

So I sold my GS3 for a Galaxy Nexus because I wanted to experience Jelly Bean. Well after a week I'm back and heres why.
1. Screen bigger and better
2. Camera much better
3.phone felt much snappier(although I wasn't on Jellybean)
4.volume much louder and crisp
5.GSM Nexus had no LTE and below standard HSpa+ never over 6 mbps
So if your in to specs I say the Gs3 is the place for you.
Also if buying the Nexus off craigslist make sure it's able to receive the update the one I bought was on the wrong radio and was told it would not which Is why I sold it too.
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Well, not to be bashful or anything, but I figured going with the GSIII was a given. Jelly Bean may be great, but it's not going to do anything to get the GNex up to GSIII standards. And no worries, GSIII will get it's fill of Jelly Bean goodness soon enough.

I had the galaxy nexus, I want on JB, I have no regrets switching.
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JB will come for GS3 soon enough

Love the nexus but sold it last week. Jelly bean will soon hit roms so not a huge loss and I'll definitely be picking up the new nexus when ever it comes out.
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Nickel Dime Bay said:
JB will come for GS3 soon enough
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No it won't. Official ics only just now rolled out for some sgs2 phones.The SDK was released in October of last year.
You might get some carrier leaks (buggy asz shiz) or cm10 (less buggy) but that will probably be many months.

nabbed said:
No it won't. Official ics only just now rolled out for some sgs2 phones.The SDK was released in October of last year.
You might get some carrier leaks (buggy asz shiz) or cm10 (less buggy) but that will probably be many months.
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Me personally I can wait, I never run stock and the amount or ROM's the international version has will keep me busy for a long time.
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We will be rocking cm10 in very little time.
Or at least beta of it.
Since pics to jellybean isn't a major overhaul. Like froyo to gingerbread or ginger to pics.
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humdrum2009 said:
We will be rocking cm10 in very little time.
Or at least beta of it.
Since pics to jellybean isn't a major overhaul. Like froyo to gingerbread or ginger to pics.
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Very little time = many months?
If you mean like a month or so, where do you come up with that bs?
The numbers speak clearly - look up froyo to gb, or gb to ics timeline.

nabbed said:
Very little time = many months?
If you mean like a month or so, where do you come up with that bs?
The numbers speak clearly - look up froyo to gb, or gb to ics timeline.
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Look up the change log and structure between those earlier android versions then go look at jelly bean compared to ics. Believe it or not the change isn't a complete overhaul, they meant for it to be that way.
Ps. there is already a beta jellybean on the international version, and we got cm9 and aokp within the first few weeks of the phone being out, the s3 is a whole nother beast compared to the s2
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mastarifla said:
Look up the change log and structure between those earlier android versions
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Enlighten me. Where can I find a "change log and structure" for Gingerbread/ICS and ICS/JB?
And how do those relate to programming an aosp rom?
Please.

nabbed said:
Enlighten me. Where can I find a "change log and structure" for Gingerbread/ICS and ICS/JB?
And how do those relate to programming an aosp rom?
Please.
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Here's a little info on what's being worked for CM10 if you haven't seen I already.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/BMQiaHhSMte?hl=en

masaidjet said:
Here's a little info on what's being worked for CM10 if you haven't seen I already.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/BMQiaHhSMte?hl=en
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I really wasn't interested, if you haven't guessed yet.
I was making a point about JB not being easily ported compared to ics or gb.

Im no dev but the majority of ICS porting applies to JB. Under the hood they are very similar. Google Now, the new voice software, and the triple buffering (kernel level stuff) are the major differences. Google now is an APK and the voice isn't requiring a lot of work either I'm sure.
If we don't have a fairly strong jb aosp in a month I would be surprised.
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I kept my GNex as my backup to my GSIII. Praying for some AOKP love over here in Verizon GSIII land, lol.
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I think it's pretty obvious that the jump from GB to ICS is what took so long. imagine trying to get all your current apps and data and customization to work with a new OS with zero hiccups and nothing lost. ICS is so completely different from GB, I'm not surprised it took so long. The jump to JB from ICS isn't nearly as large, as some people have pointed out. I'm banking on us getting it early Q4.

jbzcar said:
I kept my GNex as my backup to my GSIII. Praying for some AOKP love over here in Verizon GSIII land, lol.
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Ha ha right? The only thing that bothers me about the gnex is the screen and camera, the screen for some reason on my GS3 looks much better
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jgalan14 said:
Ha ha right? The only thing that bothers me about the gnex is the screen and camera, the screen for some reason on my GS3 looks much better
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Yup and it's spec wise not much bigger but the Gs3s screen just looks much nicer and bigger.
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CM 10 doesn't require a bunch of new drivers or official blobs from Samsung so it should be rewrite of code and implementing the apps and such. If the SGS III got AOSP ICS in weeks I'd say cm 10 might be weeks away from the point source was released. I'm not positive cause I'm not on a computer, but I think Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) has the SGS III for T-Mobile. I'm no where near a PC (just my phone til Monday)... if he is on the device as the main team member, we are looking at great nightlys and then some.
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CM 10 doesn't require a bunch of new drivers or official blobs from Samsung so it should be rewrite of code and implementing the apps and such. If the SGS III got AOSP ICS in weeks I'd say cm 10 might be weeks away from the point source was released. I'm not positive cause I'm not on a computer, but I think Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) has the SGS III for T-Mobile. I'm no where near a PC (just my phone til Monday)... if he is on the device as the main team member, we are looking at great nightlys and then some.
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I agree he actually has post in the nightly build topic, so he most likely is working on it
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I find a little strange that there was no 4.2.2 leak ...

With the S4 just weeks away from the final release presumably directly on 4.2.2 wouldn't have been a very smart idea to have something similar to that for S3 'accidentally' leak towards XDA so that Samsung could have many thousands of highly-qualified beta-testers iron-out most of the last-second surprises? Since the 4.2.1 leak was not looking very convincing to me, and it looked like it really needed more extra testing ...

I find a little strange that... Samsung still updating the S3

I find it a little strange how you expect someone to risk their job for you.

Do we have an ETA for 4.2 update?

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I find it a little strange how you expect someone to risk their job for you.
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Well a common theory is that Samsung are themselves responsible for the leaks, or at the very least, very much aware of, but indifferent to their occurrence.
And it makes sense. So many development ROMs get leaked, it seems odd to think that they would have NO way to prevent, or at least reduce, them if they wanted to.

IMHO makes business sense, when you think about it...
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I'm sure we will get a leak when they have something worth leaking, alpha testing is more than likely conducted in house, for obvious reasons, and I wouldn't expect a 4.2.x update for at least 8 weeks after the s4 release.
My opinion about leaks is that Samsung does use XDA for a cheeky bit of beta testing, when they have safe stuff to release, but I don't think they are stupid enough to release alpha stuff to the, let's face it, dubious skills of your average xda end user!
And if anyone did try leaking an alpha, I'm pretty sure they would get hung out to dry!
....but then I might be completely wrong!

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My opinion about leaks is that Samsung does use XDA for a cheeky bit of beta testing, when they have safe stuff to release, but I don't think they are stupid enough to release alpha stuff to the...
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That 4.2.1 leak we got was pretty alpha and generally unusable... I'm pretty sure that one accidently got out because we're used to samsung leaks having a few bugs, but that version wasn't even near done.

bveditz said:
That 4.2.1 leak we got was pretty alpha and generally unusable... I'm pretty sure that one accidently got out because we're used to samsung leaks having a few bugs, but that version wasn't even near done.
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I'll agree it was no where near complete, but it is very much usable, there weren't any really serious bugs preventing normal usage.
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I'll agree it was no where near complete, but it is very much usable, there weren't any really serious bugs preventing normal usage.
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I had it running for at least 3 weeks myself. The main reason I stopped using it was the battery life. I was getting about 4-6 hours with my 2500mah extended battery and would get pretty warm frequently. I have spare batteries, but it still got to be too much. I don't know if that was common for others, but I have a habit of running a lot of apps at the same time with push notifications and such, I think power management wasn't built out very well so it really impacted my use. The same apps and such get me about 8-10+ hours with the 4.1 roms (nearly double the battery life).
There were a few other little issues as well. I stuck it out longer than usual hoping some more 4.2 leaks would come out, but none did. Even the custom roms releases didn't offer any improvements, just the usual google apps updates.
Not a big deal, I mostly wanted 4.2 because I was hoping for camera updates, widget lockscreen, toggle panel, etc. I liked the widget lockscreen, but they didn't do anything with the camera. The toggle panel didn't prove to be that useful because the 25 toggle mod kinda does that just fine anyway. Other than the 4.2 improvements that samsung included from the stock 4.2 experience, I'm not really in any rush for a 4.2 rom on the S3. Other than smart stay and smart notifications, I really don't use many of the current S3 gimmicks and the S4 software gimmicks are just more of the same. Even google now is much more useful than s-voice.

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I don't think you understood my post - I was suggesting that it would make good business sense for Samsung to make that leak (and some other posters have noted the same thing about the older leak).
The final S4 will face one order of magnitude more competition now than S3 did one year ago, so having bugs that result in many apps not working well or too much power consumption and so on would NOT be good for Samsung, and the only way to test that on a large scale (give that there are no large scale S4 deployment) would be to "fake leak" a 4.2.2 for S3 - which the S3 WILL get anyway in the final form at some point!

Usual is we get a leak its probably a beta test deliberate leak .
Then it takes a fair while before the genuine release rolls out .
XDA cheap beta testers .
jje

I saw someone posted that Samsung will skip 4.2.1 and it will be on 4.2.2 on the official. I also heard rumours that it will be released mid of May, hopefully.
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I saw someone posted that Samsung will skip 4.2.1 and it will be on 4.2.2 on the official. I also heard rumours that it will be released mid of May, hopefully.
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its sad that we have to wait that long
or maybe im just a nexus spoiled brat
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its sad that we have to wait that long
or maybe im just a nexus spoiled brat
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Buy an LG then complain at Samsung upgrades.
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Buy an LG then complain at Samsung upgrades.
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lg? they dont even know what the word update means
i had 2 lg's
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lg? they dont even know what the word update means
i had 2 lg's
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You can't seriously have owned an LG phone and are now complaining at samsung updates.
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You can't seriously have owned an LG phone and are now complaining at samsung updates.
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i had two lg's and im not complaining about because i had lg im complaining because i had a nexus
thats why i said i was spoiled by it as i know Oem phones dont update as fast as google devices(lg and motorola are overkill)
good thing is that samsung is the best android maker(after google) with updates
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You know we started recieving leaks for 4.1.2 when the note 2 came out so I am sure in a few we will see some good leaks.
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But i do think Samsung will first release 4.2.1 without s4 feature and then release 4.2.2 with s4 features same like they did with s2 and s3 (4.1.1 and 4.1.2)
Because if they give us a update directly with s4 features it will affect s4 sales
Anyways it is now heard that android 5.0 is postponed and will not com in Google io so we gave plenty of time for 2 updates
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Google edition i9505

Does anyone know when we might get the firmware for the i9505 google edition? I'm sure there is much talk about being able to flash this on a regular i9505. I would like to see this used as a better base for all aosp roms in the future. Do you think we have to wait until the 26th release of the device or will we get a leak?
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sirdicholas said:
Does anyone know when we might get the firmware for the i9505 google edition? I'm sure there is much talk about being able to flash this on a regular i9505. I would like to see this used as a better base for all aosp roms in the future. Do you think we have to wait until the 26th release of the device or will we get a leak?
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Tuff question friend.I Really hope to leak 1-2 day before 26th but...We wait and see.

Is it the 26 of this month?
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Is it the 26 of this month?
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Yes.

June 26! Stay tuned.
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I can't wait. Usually there is a leak a couple days early. I hope this is true for Google edition. I can't express how happy I am with this trend of pure google devices. It'll help with the Android fragmentation problem tremendously.
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6 days to go:laugh:

One would hope official roms will lead to big improvements to the likes of CM and Paranoid Android. Also, I'm wondering if it will lead to camera speed and quality improvements over what we currently have with the CM based roms.

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One would hope official roms will lead to big improvements to the likes of CM and Paranoid Android. Also, I'm wondering if it will lead to camera speed and quality improvements over what we currently have with the CM based roms.
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If it doesn't reach aosp, then there's no way in hell it could ever affect aosp roms in any way whatsoever.

Sammobile is saying something about releasing a test firmware for a flagship device tomorrow...
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Sammobile is saying something about releasing a test firmware for a flagship device tomorrow...
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Hope they're talking about the i9505.

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If it doesn't reach aosp, then there's no way in hell it could ever affect aosp roms in any way whatsoever.
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Indeed. But given that it generally happens to Nexus devices, there is no reason to believe this won't happen to the Nexus edition of the S4 eventually. The binaries for the Nexus 4 were released in March for example and it now has full AOSP support.

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Indeed. But given that it generally happens to Nexus devices, there is no reason to believe this won't happen to the Nexus edition of the S4 eventually. The binaries for the Nexus 4 were released last month for example and it now has full AOSP support.
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But it's Samsung we're talking about

I would hope, seeing that this was announced at Google io, and it will get regular updates just like nexus devices, Google is going to be in charge of software for this endeavor. If that is the case, I'm positive we will get all the goodies that nexus gets. And I guess I'm wrong, but I thought the firmware that comes with nexus' are aosp.
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But it's Samsung we're talking about
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But how much control will Samsung have over Google's policy in this respect? One would hope negligible if any, especially given that the backbone of the device isn't even based on Samsung hardware anyway. If Google's S4 was based on the I9500 it might be a different matter.

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But how much control will Samsung have over Google's policy in this respect? One would hope negligible if any, especially given that the backbone of the device isn't even based on Samsung hardware anyway. If Google's S4 was based on the I9500 it might be a different matter.
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I hope this partnership is a clear and decisive 50/50 deal. Samsung hardware and Google software.
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I hope this partnership is a clear and decisive 50/50 deal. Samsung hardware and Google software.
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We've had that mix before. It was called "Samsung Galaxy Nexus" ^^

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But how much control will Samsung have over Google's policy in this respect? One would hope negligible if any, especially given that the backbone of the device isn't even based on Samsung hardware anyway. If Google's S4 was based on the I9500 it might be a different matter.
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Well i think in respect to S4 Google edition software , Samsung will control next to none, Google will push new software for Google nexus devises including SGS4 and HTC One Google edition in that respect no more delays due to "touch wiz / sense" adaptation

dublinz said:
Well i think in respect to S4 Google edition software , Samsung will control next to none, Google will push new software for Google nexus devises including SGS4 and HTC One Google edition in that respect no more delays due to "touch wiz / sense" adaptation
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But Google still needs Samsung for updated radio's,drivers etc.

Aerys said:
But Google still needs Samsung for updated radio's,drivers etc.
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Do they? How much of the device is actually Samsung hardware that requires Samsung drivers? It's a Qualcomm device. Other than drivers for the bespoke Samsung features like Air View/Gesture and Smart Scroll etc (which Google won't be using anyway) I can't think of anything Google need off Samsung. This is exactly why making AOKP and CM roms has been so easy for the device. The first guy who created a CM rom did it without even owning one .
Sent from my Qualcomm Galaxy S4