So I sold my GS3 for a Galaxy Nexus because I wanted to experience Jelly Bean. Well after a week I'm back and heres why.
1. Screen bigger and better
2. Camera much better
3.phone felt much snappier(although I wasn't on Jellybean)
4.volume much louder and crisp
5.GSM Nexus had no LTE and below standard HSpa+ never over 6 mbps
So if your in to specs I say the Gs3 is the place for you.
Also if buying the Nexus off craigslist make sure it's able to receive the update the one I bought was on the wrong radio and was told it would not which Is why I sold it too.
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Well, not to be bashful or anything, but I figured going with the GSIII was a given. Jelly Bean may be great, but it's not going to do anything to get the GNex up to GSIII standards. And no worries, GSIII will get it's fill of Jelly Bean goodness soon enough.
I had the galaxy nexus, I want on JB, I have no regrets switching.
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JB will come for GS3 soon enough
Love the nexus but sold it last week. Jelly bean will soon hit roms so not a huge loss and I'll definitely be picking up the new nexus when ever it comes out.
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JB will come for GS3 soon enough
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No it won't. Official ics only just now rolled out for some sgs2 phones.The SDK was released in October of last year.
You might get some carrier leaks (buggy asz shiz) or cm10 (less buggy) but that will probably be many months.
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No it won't. Official ics only just now rolled out for some sgs2 phones.The SDK was released in October of last year.
You might get some carrier leaks (buggy asz shiz) or cm10 (less buggy) but that will probably be many months.
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Me personally I can wait, I never run stock and the amount or ROM's the international version has will keep me busy for a long time.
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We will be rocking cm10 in very little time.
Or at least beta of it.
Since pics to jellybean isn't a major overhaul. Like froyo to gingerbread or ginger to pics.
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We will be rocking cm10 in very little time.
Or at least beta of it.
Since pics to jellybean isn't a major overhaul. Like froyo to gingerbread or ginger to pics.
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Very little time = many months?
If you mean like a month or so, where do you come up with that bs?
The numbers speak clearly - look up froyo to gb, or gb to ics timeline.
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Very little time = many months?
If you mean like a month or so, where do you come up with that bs?
The numbers speak clearly - look up froyo to gb, or gb to ics timeline.
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Look up the change log and structure between those earlier android versions then go look at jelly bean compared to ics. Believe it or not the change isn't a complete overhaul, they meant for it to be that way.
Ps. there is already a beta jellybean on the international version, and we got cm9 and aokp within the first few weeks of the phone being out, the s3 is a whole nother beast compared to the s2
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Look up the change log and structure between those earlier android versions
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Enlighten me. Where can I find a "change log and structure" for Gingerbread/ICS and ICS/JB?
And how do those relate to programming an aosp rom?
Please.
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Enlighten me. Where can I find a "change log and structure" for Gingerbread/ICS and ICS/JB?
And how do those relate to programming an aosp rom?
Please.
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Here's a little info on what's being worked for CM10 if you haven't seen I already.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/BMQiaHhSMte?hl=en
masaidjet said:
Here's a little info on what's being worked for CM10 if you haven't seen I already.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/BMQiaHhSMte?hl=en
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I really wasn't interested, if you haven't guessed yet.
I was making a point about JB not being easily ported compared to ics or gb.
Im no dev but the majority of ICS porting applies to JB. Under the hood they are very similar. Google Now, the new voice software, and the triple buffering (kernel level stuff) are the major differences. Google now is an APK and the voice isn't requiring a lot of work either I'm sure.
If we don't have a fairly strong jb aosp in a month I would be surprised.
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I kept my GNex as my backup to my GSIII. Praying for some AOKP love over here in Verizon GSIII land, lol.
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I think it's pretty obvious that the jump from GB to ICS is what took so long. imagine trying to get all your current apps and data and customization to work with a new OS with zero hiccups and nothing lost. ICS is so completely different from GB, I'm not surprised it took so long. The jump to JB from ICS isn't nearly as large, as some people have pointed out. I'm banking on us getting it early Q4.
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I kept my GNex as my backup to my GSIII. Praying for some AOKP love over here in Verizon GSIII land, lol.
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Ha ha right? The only thing that bothers me about the gnex is the screen and camera, the screen for some reason on my GS3 looks much better
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Ha ha right? The only thing that bothers me about the gnex is the screen and camera, the screen for some reason on my GS3 looks much better
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Yup and it's spec wise not much bigger but the Gs3s screen just looks much nicer and bigger.
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CM 10 doesn't require a bunch of new drivers or official blobs from Samsung so it should be rewrite of code and implementing the apps and such. If the SGS III got AOSP ICS in weeks I'd say cm 10 might be weeks away from the point source was released. I'm not positive cause I'm not on a computer, but I think Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) has the SGS III for T-Mobile. I'm no where near a PC (just my phone til Monday)... if he is on the device as the main team member, we are looking at great nightlys and then some.
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CM 10 doesn't require a bunch of new drivers or official blobs from Samsung so it should be rewrite of code and implementing the apps and such. If the SGS III got AOSP ICS in weeks I'd say cm 10 might be weeks away from the point source was released. I'm not positive cause I'm not on a computer, but I think Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) has the SGS III for T-Mobile. I'm no where near a PC (just my phone til Monday)... if he is on the device as the main team member, we are looking at great nightlys and then some.
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I agree he actually has post in the nightly build topic, so he most likely is working on it
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Do you guys think the vibrant could handle this? But I'm sure the development here will someday get it working. Your thoughts?
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It can handle it easily nexus S is pretty much same hardware an y wouldn't u want it its the future
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Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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Alex530 said:
Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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Its not even close to being done do the kernel is not even updated do an the person who leaked it said its a work in process it's alpha they got something up there sleeve
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Alex530 said:
Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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What's Gingerbread missing that you want so bad from IceCreamSandwich?
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Do you guys think the vibrant could handle this? But I'm sure the development here will someday get it working. Your thoughts?
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oh... i thought you meant like... you know.. a real ice cream sandwich... im disappointed :\
The Nexus S supports ICS so our Vibrants should run it just fine. A Nexus S is basically the same hardware as a Galaxy S with NFC support. Unfortunately I don't think we'll be getting any official ICS from Samsung. We have yet to even see Gingerbread, although Tmobile also has a say in it. I've already decided to either get the Samsung Hercules or Nexus Prime to replace my age old Vibrant. I'm leaning towards the Nexus Prime simply for first-served updates directly from Google.
Looking at the leak that could have just been edited GB, I mean any of the devs here could have made that.
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The Nexus S supports ICS so our Vibrants should run it just fine. A Nexus S is basically the same hardware as a Galaxy S with NFC support. Unfortunately I don't think we'll be getting any official ICS from Samsung. We have yet to even see Gingerbread, although Tmobile also has a say in it. I've already decided to either get the Samsung Hercules or Nexus Prime to replace my age old Vibrant. I'm leaning towards the Nexus Prime simply for first-served updates directly from Google.
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What really sucks is I just started 2year plan I thought this was a new phone lol so who knows what they will have in 2 years.
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playonline53tms said:
What really sucks is I just started 2year plan I thought this was a new phone lol so who knows what they will have in 2 years.
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lol that sucks but this phone is not too bad compared to new phones ive had mine for a while but im still satisfied with it, ive had honeycomb run on my vibrant, not fully functioning but it runs so why not ice cream
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lol that sucks but this phone is not too bad compared to new phones ive had mine for a while but im still satisfied with it, ive had honeycomb run on my vibrant, not fully functioning but it runs so why not ice cream
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Exatly
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We dont even have (official) GB fully functioning, so I wont think about any further for vibrant
I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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Well I don't expect alot either but they could surprise us.
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I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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No uhh not really its suppose to make android one cross all platforms so transition to new version should be much better than it was for CM7 an there still gonna update international galaxy s we will see ICS soon cuz u can port over since its so similar an Google yet to fail me except for Gingerbread
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We dont even have (official) GB fully functioning, so I wont think about any further for vibrant
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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For me gps works when it wants not when i want, its not what i called fully fixed. I always get back to froyo after using cm7 for a week.
Jasonhunterx said:
No uhh not really its suppose to make android one cross all platforms so transition to new version should be much better than it was for CM7 an there still gonna update international galaxy s we will see ICS soon cuz u can port over since its so similar an Google yet to fail me except for Gingerbread
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Yes, it is going to make Android the same across all Nexus branded platforms. Touchwiz, Sense, and Blur are not going anywhere and the manufacturers still have to modify ICS for each individual device. The Galaxy S is done for official support, period. Samsung is not making any more money from the original Galaxy S compared to the SII; most owners of the original have or will already have switched devices so Samsung has no true need to update the international version. Google's 18 month update suggestion was what it was, a suggestion, and by the time December comes, the Galaxy S is about 18 months old anyways.
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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I tried multiple builds and just couldn't get reasonable battery life. I got tired of charging through usb at work. With my usage and location I get about 24 hours on undervolt 2.2 builds.
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Yes, it is going to make Android the same across all Nexus branded platforms. Touchwiz, Sense, and Blur are not going anywhere and the manufacturers still have to modify ICS for each individual device. The Galaxy S is done for official support, period. Samsung is not making any more money from the original Galaxy S compared to the SII; most owners of the original have or will already have switched devices so Samsung has no true need to update the international version. Google's 18 month update suggestion was what it was, a suggestion, and by the time December comes, the Galaxy S is about 18 months old anyways.
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Really only time can tell what they do
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I just wanted to know if Google releases the ics ota for the nexus s 4g should I just stick with it instead of upgrading fully to Mac daddy galaxy nexus. I hope they release it on the sale date of the GN or before. Just want to hear some thoughts.
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I'm getting the galaxy nexus.
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But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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I already have ics on my nexus s4g. I just want the bigger screen and HD superamoled display
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But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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The official ota isn't going to make ICS any better. The only thing it will do is add the word official to ICS.
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Yeah I get what you guys are saying because I have been flashing ics roms all week. But doesn't Google do a better job at building ics and optimization
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being paid to do something you enjoy doesnt necessarily make you better at it...
from my experience stock roms run the best. i always have some kind of issue that brings me back to stock. i would love an official ics build soon.
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being paid to do something you enjoy doesnt necessarily make you better at it...
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I agree with this, but the amount of resources and testing at google's disposal far outweighs that of your average rom builder.
Not only that, but I'm positive that Google has specification and performance information on the phone's hardware that the average ROM developer will simply never have. I agree, custom ROMs are fun to play with, but for everyday use, you'll never beat a stock ROM.
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I agree with this, but the amount of resources and testing at google's disposal far outweighs that of your average rom builder.
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so....
their rollout stopped
and the rom avalanche started
hmmmm
...you are
obviously correct tho...
and i'm sure they havnt looked at any
of the code floating around here
the official ICS for our phone has been out for months... OP needs to catch up on the old news
lol when the official ics gets here we will have nothing to look forward to lol.
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just install it, you'll like it
it's on the Stickies
Oh yeah, btw this cm9 with the matrix kernel is graaaaaaaavvvvyyyyyyyy
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the official ICS for our phone has been out for months... OP needs to catch up on the old news
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By months, you mean less than a month. And there is no official ICS for the NS 4G.
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By months, you mean less than a month. And there is no official ICS for the NS 4G.
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LOL well i was thinking it was released last year
but technically it's only 5 days short to a month
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Oh yeah, btw this cm9 with the matrix kernel is graaaaaaaavvvvyyyyyyyy
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that's not stable enough for my taste yet
stock original ICS from google is currently running better
AllGamer said:
LOL well i was thinking it was released last year
but technically it's only 5 days short to a month
that's not stable enough for my taste yet
stock original ICS from google is currently running better
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I'm on kang 15 and steve.garons latest kernel. You and I have very different opinions of stable. Mine is top notch. No hiccups. If u want to wait, by all means, I was...then broke down and the current roms are fantastic.
It takes less than 5mins to root, make a backup, copy that backup yo PC, then unlock boot loader and flash a new rom. If u don't like it, there always that backup you can restore. Too easy to sit around and complain when there are alternatives
I'm always finding things that don't work on custom kernels and it drives me insane!! I'll try to show someone something cool, and it takes me 15 minutes just to get it working, then I just look stupid because the rom I have isn't compatible with ___, or it's missing ___ (fill in the blank)
Yeah, they are fun to play with, and it's nice to have the cool mods & tweaks that come with them, but when you want your phone to "just work" then there's nothing better than a nice stable official rom that does everything you throw at it. speed & extra performance is great, but stability and compatibility outweigh those every single time, imho
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I'm always finding things that don't work on custom kernels and it drives me insane!! I'll try to show someone something cool, and it takes me 15 minutes just to get it working, then I just look stupid because the rom I have isn't compatible with ___, or it's missing ___ (fill in the blank)
Yeah, they are fun to play with, and it's nice to have the cool mods & tweaks that come with them, but when you want your phone to "just work" then there's nothing better than a nice stable official rom that does everything you throw at it. speed & extra performance is great, but stability and compatibility outweigh those every single time, imho
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I can't help but agree that ota is most stable But I feel the same way as you. Stability first. Yet I myself am not suffering from any issue. I find my self surround by multiple galaxy nexus owners daily and I am showing them stuff w my oG. Vice versa, just throwing it out there. I have been lucky when I have been flashing phones, many many manyphones hahaha. They all take well to me. I hate a screwed up glitchy phone
We have the kernel source and aosp source for ICS (not JB)(obviously) so why hasn't anyone made an aosp Rom? It seems even other devices get AOSP roms a lot faster. Is there a problem with porting AOSP to the S3 phones in general (US VERSIONS) or does no dev really care for AOSP and is happy with TouchWiz? I don't know, and I'm just curious. Just to be clear, I'm not asking any devs to get on it or work on it or rush it, just pure curiosity. Thanks. Hoping some devs could reply to clear some things up.
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Can you wait ? Sheesh
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I don't even have my phone yet... *it is shipping as we speak*
If you have been reading. The devs are having to unravel a disgusting amount of code because the touch wiz is integrated with everything. We are running a %0 true android experience. It's going to take time. With all due respect if you can't wait do it yourself. Good luck.
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Give it time, the phone's barely out
Exactly. As much as I don't want to wait any linger and take my g nex back from my wife I think I'll stick it out. This phone is pretty damn sweet
Give it some time. As stated before the phone is barely even released.
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If you have been reading. The devs are having to unravel a disgusting amount of code because the touch wiz is integrated with everything. We are running a %0 true android experience. It's going to take time. With all due respect if you can't wait do it yourself. Good luck.
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Yeah I get that it's running touchwiz which is like you said basically a 0% true android experience but wouldn't you just be able to delete the touchwiz all together and flash a new Rom. I'm not exactly sure what the problems are that are stopping devs from just installing a Rom onto it after removing touchwiz. I can wait I was just asking out of curiosity lol.
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You can't do that without achieving AOSP. ICS AOSP is helpful, but everyone wants JB.
The JB AOSP source code isn't out and when it is, the closed-source RIL is the biggest obstacle to making it work.
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We have the kernel source and aosp source(obviously) so why hasn't anyone made an aosp Rom? Are there no dedicated enough devs? Does no one care? I've been thinking to compile an aosp Rom but I wouldn't know where to go from there
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You can't have AOSP ROMS without the AndroidOpenSource for 4.1, which isn't out for 2 more weeks. And for 4.0, the devs still need time.
someone else mentioned that a lot of the devs might have held out for the 32gb models which were hard to come by opening week. the 16gb versions came out first. anyway, there are a lot of great devs on board, and not just historically samsung devs. htc devs like myn will be pumping out roms soon enough.
i won't lie though... some jellybean love would be beautiful.
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someone else mentioned that a lot of the devs might have held out for the 32gb models which were hard to come by opening week. the 16gb versions came out first. anyway, there are a lot of great devs on board, and not just historically samsung devs. htc devs like myn will be pumping out roms soon enough.
i won't lie though... some jellybean love would be beautiful.
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Yeah, I hope by the time the SGS4 rolls around in a year that 32GB will be the new low-end, with 64GB the step up. I really hope we don't stagnate here -- or worse: go backwards -- just because of this cloud crap.
My guess would be that most of the devs have the international version. They have had AOSP roms for weeks. Not to mention cm9, aokp, and about to get miui4
My guess would be that the phone is just getting released in the US and maybe the devs are waiting for 4.1 source so we can have a Jelly Bean AOSP rom instead of spending so much time to create an ICS AOSP. That doesn't make much sense to me, why waste time on ICS when JB is coming out in couple of weeks.
Can't most efforts on ICS apply to JB, or do things like project butter really change up the porting?
I imagine Google Play on stock/root or CM9 would be a lower-hanging fruit.
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My guess would be that the phone is just getting released in the US and maybe the devs are waiting for 4.1 source so we can have a Jelly Bean AOSP rom instead of spending so much time to create an ICS AOSP. That doesn't make much sense to me, why waste time on ICS when JB is coming out in couple of weeks.
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Yeah that is probably it. But wouldn't starting now with ics help with jb?
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I thought jelly bean was flashable over ics
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Yeah I get that it's running touchwiz which is like you said basically a 0% true android experience but wouldn't you just be able to delete the touchwiz all together and flash a new Rom. I'm not exactly sure what the problems are that are stopping devs from just installing a Rom onto it after removing touchwiz. I can wait I was just asking out of curiosity lol.
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Try and just take it explorer on Windows and see how far you get. It's not as simple as just deleting touchwiz.
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There isn't AOSP because of posts like this. You probably delayed it a day or two.
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There isn't AOSP because of posts like this. You probably delayed it a day or two.
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Now now, this isn't Half Life. But seriously, I don't mind waiting for AOSP because TouchWiz has a lot of cool software features and I can always flash an ICS theme.
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Hopefully T989 will be too...
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...alaxy-S2-to-get-Android-4-1-Jelly-Bean-Update
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Hopefully T989 will be too...
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...alaxy-S2-to-get-Android-4-1-Jelly-Bean-Update
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It would be nice, but this means nothing to us. Almost 2 completely different phones with the same name.
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Smh... lol
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Smh... lol
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Please, share your input. Enlighten us
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Hopefully T989 will be too...
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...alaxy-S2-to-get-Android-4-1-Jelly-Bean-Update
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After not getting gingerbread on the vibrant (the only galaxy s1 variant that didn't), it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't update this variant of the gs2 beyond ICS just to keep the streak alive of not fully supporting updates for Samsung phones on T-Mobile.
Exhibit A: behold 2
Exhibit B: galaxy s vibrant
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HeavyA said:
After not getting gingerbread on the vibrant (the only galaxy s1 variant that didn't), it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't update this variant of the gs2 beyond ICS just to keep the steak alive of not fully supporting updates for Samsung phones on T-Mobile.
Exhibit A: behold 2
Exhibit B: galaxy s vibrant
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Not to mention the sales they make on people upgrading for new software alone.
Whether we see it officially or not, we will see a stable version for our phones from the devs here.
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Towle said:
Not to mention the sales they make on people upgrading for new software alone.
Whether we see it officially or not, we will see a stable version for our phones from the devs here.
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Wow, this is my first samsung phone so I didn't know such sad history existed. Well, whatever will be, I hope cm10 will be stable by then. I'm not a big fan of TouchWiz myself. My next phone will be a Google device phone. OS support is more important to me than specs
Towle said:
Please, share your input. Enlighten us
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Its no point... So o well
Towle said:
Not to mention the sales they make on people upgrading for new software alone.
Whether we see it officially or not, we will see a stable version for our phones from the devs here.
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Amen Bro ! Thats why I love this site so much. It doesn't really matter what T-Mobile does so its kind of a pointless conversation. I would't really even take the KIES update or OTA update from T-Mobile anyways. I will wait untill someone here gets a good stable JB Release. I am reluctant to change because my ICS rom is so smooth and stable but I know within a few months it will be worth it. It's like a slap in the face to the slow and bloated T-Mo. Rom.
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Amen Bro ! Thats why I love this site so much. It doesn't really matter what T-Mobile does so its kind of a pointless conversation. I would't really even take the KIES update or OTA update from T-Mobile anyways. I will wait untill someone here gets a good stable JB Release. I am reluctant to change because my ICS rom is so smooth and stable but I know within a few months it will be worth it. It's like a slap in the face to the slow and bloated T-Mo. Rom.
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I wouldn't do a kies update either. My hope is for Samsung to release source so that the devs here have more to work with. That was what dogged the vibrant. They eventually released Froyo for it, but nothing further. The GB/ICS/JB releases for it were all ported from either the i9000 or the Nexus S, and had to be tweaked since there was no actual source to work with for the vibrant itself. That's why the GPS was so spotty on it on any version of android after Froyo. I'm glad that my insurance replacement for my busted Vibrant was the Hercules, which is still in the window of time (was it 18 months?) that they pledged to support upgrades to android. Whether we actually see it is another story. At least the devs here really kick some butt on the ROMs they release.
Just got JB on my tf300 2 days ago
Asus updates waaaay quicker than Samsung! Maybe later on I could get an Asus Phone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736726
There's already a Jelly Bean discussion thread that has been hidden away at the top of this forum
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With the S4 just weeks away from the final release presumably directly on 4.2.2 wouldn't have been a very smart idea to have something similar to that for S3 'accidentally' leak towards XDA so that Samsung could have many thousands of highly-qualified beta-testers iron-out most of the last-second surprises? Since the 4.2.1 leak was not looking very convincing to me, and it looked like it really needed more extra testing ...
I find a little strange that... Samsung still updating the S3
I find it a little strange how you expect someone to risk their job for you.
Do we have an ETA for 4.2 update?
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I find it a little strange how you expect someone to risk their job for you.
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Well a common theory is that Samsung are themselves responsible for the leaks, or at the very least, very much aware of, but indifferent to their occurrence.
And it makes sense. So many development ROMs get leaked, it seems odd to think that they would have NO way to prevent, or at least reduce, them if they wanted to.
IMHO makes business sense, when you think about it...
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I'm sure we will get a leak when they have something worth leaking, alpha testing is more than likely conducted in house, for obvious reasons, and I wouldn't expect a 4.2.x update for at least 8 weeks after the s4 release.
My opinion about leaks is that Samsung does use XDA for a cheeky bit of beta testing, when they have safe stuff to release, but I don't think they are stupid enough to release alpha stuff to the, let's face it, dubious skills of your average xda end user!
And if anyone did try leaking an alpha, I'm pretty sure they would get hung out to dry!
....but then I might be completely wrong!
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My opinion about leaks is that Samsung does use XDA for a cheeky bit of beta testing, when they have safe stuff to release, but I don't think they are stupid enough to release alpha stuff to the...
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That 4.2.1 leak we got was pretty alpha and generally unusable... I'm pretty sure that one accidently got out because we're used to samsung leaks having a few bugs, but that version wasn't even near done.
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That 4.2.1 leak we got was pretty alpha and generally unusable... I'm pretty sure that one accidently got out because we're used to samsung leaks having a few bugs, but that version wasn't even near done.
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I'll agree it was no where near complete, but it is very much usable, there weren't any really serious bugs preventing normal usage.
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I'll agree it was no where near complete, but it is very much usable, there weren't any really serious bugs preventing normal usage.
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I had it running for at least 3 weeks myself. The main reason I stopped using it was the battery life. I was getting about 4-6 hours with my 2500mah extended battery and would get pretty warm frequently. I have spare batteries, but it still got to be too much. I don't know if that was common for others, but I have a habit of running a lot of apps at the same time with push notifications and such, I think power management wasn't built out very well so it really impacted my use. The same apps and such get me about 8-10+ hours with the 4.1 roms (nearly double the battery life).
There were a few other little issues as well. I stuck it out longer than usual hoping some more 4.2 leaks would come out, but none did. Even the custom roms releases didn't offer any improvements, just the usual google apps updates.
Not a big deal, I mostly wanted 4.2 because I was hoping for camera updates, widget lockscreen, toggle panel, etc. I liked the widget lockscreen, but they didn't do anything with the camera. The toggle panel didn't prove to be that useful because the 25 toggle mod kinda does that just fine anyway. Other than the 4.2 improvements that samsung included from the stock 4.2 experience, I'm not really in any rush for a 4.2 rom on the S3. Other than smart stay and smart notifications, I really don't use many of the current S3 gimmicks and the S4 software gimmicks are just more of the same. Even google now is much more useful than s-voice.
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I find it a little strange how you expect someone to risk their job for you.
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I don't think you understood my post - I was suggesting that it would make good business sense for Samsung to make that leak (and some other posters have noted the same thing about the older leak).
The final S4 will face one order of magnitude more competition now than S3 did one year ago, so having bugs that result in many apps not working well or too much power consumption and so on would NOT be good for Samsung, and the only way to test that on a large scale (give that there are no large scale S4 deployment) would be to "fake leak" a 4.2.2 for S3 - which the S3 WILL get anyway in the final form at some point!
Usual is we get a leak its probably a beta test deliberate leak .
Then it takes a fair while before the genuine release rolls out .
XDA cheap beta testers .
jje
I saw someone posted that Samsung will skip 4.2.1 and it will be on 4.2.2 on the official. I also heard rumours that it will be released mid of May, hopefully.
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I saw someone posted that Samsung will skip 4.2.1 and it will be on 4.2.2 on the official. I also heard rumours that it will be released mid of May, hopefully.
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its sad that we have to wait that long
or maybe im just a nexus spoiled brat
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negrobembon said:
its sad that we have to wait that long
or maybe im just a nexus spoiled brat
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Buy an LG then complain at Samsung upgrades.
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delsus said:
Buy an LG then complain at Samsung upgrades.
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lg? they dont even know what the word update means
i had 2 lg's
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negrobembon said:
lg? they dont even know what the word update means
i had 2 lg's
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You can't seriously have owned an LG phone and are now complaining at samsung updates.
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You can't seriously have owned an LG phone and are now complaining at samsung updates.
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i had two lg's and im not complaining about because i had lg im complaining because i had a nexus
thats why i said i was spoiled by it as i know Oem phones dont update as fast as google devices(lg and motorola are overkill)
good thing is that samsung is the best android maker(after google) with updates
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You know we started recieving leaks for 4.1.2 when the note 2 came out so I am sure in a few we will see some good leaks.
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But i do think Samsung will first release 4.2.1 without s4 feature and then release 4.2.2 with s4 features same like they did with s2 and s3 (4.1.1 and 4.1.2)
Because if they give us a update directly with s4 features it will affect s4 sales
Anyways it is now heard that android 5.0 is postponed and will not com in Google io so we gave plenty of time for 2 updates
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