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Official ICS 4.0 ota for nexus s 4g before late galaxy nexus.

I just wanted to know if Google releases the ics ota for the nexus s 4g should I just stick with it instead of upgrading fully to Mac daddy galaxy nexus. I hope they release it on the sale date of the GN or before. Just want to hear some thoughts.
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I'm getting the galaxy nexus.
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But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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treyweez11 said:
But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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I already have ics on my nexus s4g. I just want the bigger screen and HD superamoled display
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treyweez11 said:
But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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The official ota isn't going to make ICS any better. The only thing it will do is add the word official to ICS.
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Yeah I get what you guys are saying because I have been flashing ics roms all week. But doesn't Google do a better job at building ics and optimization
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being paid to do something you enjoy doesnt necessarily make you better at it...

from my experience stock roms run the best. i always have some kind of issue that brings me back to stock. i would love an official ics build soon.

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being paid to do something you enjoy doesnt necessarily make you better at it...
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I agree with this, but the amount of resources and testing at google's disposal far outweighs that of your average rom builder.

Not only that, but I'm positive that Google has specification and performance information on the phone's hardware that the average ROM developer will simply never have. I agree, custom ROMs are fun to play with, but for everyday use, you'll never beat a stock ROM.

supralover72 said:
I agree with this, but the amount of resources and testing at google's disposal far outweighs that of your average rom builder.
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so....
their rollout stopped
and the rom avalanche started
hmmmm
...you are
obviously correct tho...
and i'm sure they havnt looked at any
of the code floating around here

the official ICS for our phone has been out for months... OP needs to catch up on the old news

lol when the official ics gets here we will have nothing to look forward to lol.
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just install it, you'll like it
it's on the Stickies

Oh yeah, btw this cm9 with the matrix kernel is graaaaaaaavvvvyyyyyyyy
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AllGamer said:
the official ICS for our phone has been out for months... OP needs to catch up on the old news
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By months, you mean less than a month. And there is no official ICS for the NS 4G.

bozzykid said:
By months, you mean less than a month. And there is no official ICS for the NS 4G.
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LOL well i was thinking it was released last year
but technically it's only 5 days short to a month
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Oh yeah, btw this cm9 with the matrix kernel is graaaaaaaavvvvyyyyyyyy
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that's not stable enough for my taste yet
stock original ICS from google is currently running better

AllGamer said:
LOL well i was thinking it was released last year
but technically it's only 5 days short to a month
that's not stable enough for my taste yet
stock original ICS from google is currently running better
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I'm on kang 15 and steve.garons latest kernel. You and I have very different opinions of stable. Mine is top notch. No hiccups. If u want to wait, by all means, I was...then broke down and the current roms are fantastic.
It takes less than 5mins to root, make a backup, copy that backup yo PC, then unlock boot loader and flash a new rom. If u don't like it, there always that backup you can restore. Too easy to sit around and complain when there are alternatives

I'm always finding things that don't work on custom kernels and it drives me insane!! I'll try to show someone something cool, and it takes me 15 minutes just to get it working, then I just look stupid because the rom I have isn't compatible with ___, or it's missing ___ (fill in the blank)
Yeah, they are fun to play with, and it's nice to have the cool mods & tweaks that come with them, but when you want your phone to "just work" then there's nothing better than a nice stable official rom that does everything you throw at it. speed & extra performance is great, but stability and compatibility outweigh those every single time, imho

hp420 said:
I'm always finding things that don't work on custom kernels and it drives me insane!! I'll try to show someone something cool, and it takes me 15 minutes just to get it working, then I just look stupid because the rom I have isn't compatible with ___, or it's missing ___ (fill in the blank)
Yeah, they are fun to play with, and it's nice to have the cool mods & tweaks that come with them, but when you want your phone to "just work" then there's nothing better than a nice stable official rom that does everything you throw at it. speed & extra performance is great, but stability and compatibility outweigh those every single time, imho
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I can't help but agree that ota is most stable But I feel the same way as you. Stability first. Yet I myself am not suffering from any issue. I find my self surround by multiple galaxy nexus owners daily and I am showing them stuff w my oG. Vice versa, just throwing it out there. I have been lucky when I have been flashing phones, many many manyphones hahaha. They all take well to me. I hate a screwed up glitchy phone

Ics Possibilities

With cm9 already with us, how close are we to say, custom Ics roms, like say, a clean Ics build or something. Or are we still missing some vital components for this to happen.
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Jbluna said:
With cm9 already with us, how close are we to say, custom Ics roms, like say, a clean Ics build or something. Or are we still missing some vital components for this to happen.
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Probably not any besides the one xboxfanj is making but there is a possibilty that we have devs working on a clean ics I know of one whom is working on his own version of cm9... but well see..... not too far away but much more difficult to port. I'm sure
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Jbluna said:
With cm9 already with us, how close are we to say, custom Ics roms, like say, a clean Ics build or something. Or are we still missing some vital components for this to happen.
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CM9 and MIUI v4 will be it basically. They are already pure AOSP ROMs. What is more custom than that? There are a multitude of kernels to try with them and themes are being built on a regular basis now. Not sure what you are looking for. The only custom ROMs the epic had are based on Touchwiz and we are not getting official ICS to base ROMs off of.

The problem with basing on ICS is that you need to edit the source code and cm9 is already optimized enough. If you havent noticed, cm9 is a custom rom and IMHO the best one. It doesn't have touchwiz or bloatware or ciq so it doesnt need to be optimized, fixed, or cleaned.
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I agree with other posts here. What more do we possibly need besides aosp cm9 and miui!? Lol. Its a treat that we're even seeing cm9 on our phone.
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I don't know this is just my 2 cents but maybe he's asking what custom ICS stuff we can look forward to as far as customization...like in CM7 u can move the status bar to the bottom...in MIUI u can mix and match themes...control the CRT animation and some other visual and peformance things...there are a lot of spaceholders with options that haven't been implemented as of yet too
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tony45x220 said:
I don't know this is just my 2 cents but maybe he's asking what custom ICS stuff we can look forward to as far as customization...like in CM7 u can move the status bar to the bottom...in MIUI u can mix and match themes...control the CRT animation and some other visual and peformance things...there are a lot of spaceholders with options that haven't been implemented as of yet too
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All that is not controlled by our devs that's upstream stuffs that haven't been merged
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I know of two devs that are working on there own roms that are based off of cm9... should be seeing them very soon...
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Biggoron said:
Probably not any besides the one xboxfanj is making but there is a possibilty that we have devs working on a clean ics I know of one whom is working on his own version of cm9... but well see..... not too far away but much more difficult to port. I'm sure
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I decided against that. Cm9 is everything that would have been and more

xboxfanj said:
I decided against that. Cm9 is everything that would have been and more
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Oh I'm sorry I was mis informed
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Once CM9 is out of its alpha stage and all the bugs and small tweaks are worked out and also once the devs get most of the upstream stuff i believe that we will see at best themes for CM9 but as it is now its in its "clean" state.
however i cant wait to start seeing themes come out for it i would love to learn how to theme CM9 i have some good ideas but still reading the how to's and working on my own CM7 theme lots of trial and error lol

It's not that I don't like cm9 or Don't already think ice cream sandwich is "perfect"( as is, far from it. This is the best experience I've pretty much had on my Epic. I just like seeing the variety and you guys' varied take on OS's as you've shown before. But yeah, it'll probably be a challenge cause of the almost perfect stableness.
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Jbluna said:
It's not that I don't like cm9 or Don't already think ice cream sandwich is "perfect"( as is, far from it. This is the best experience I've pretty much had on my Epic. I just like seeing the variety and you guys' varied take on OS's as you've shown before. But yeah, it'll probably be a challenge cause of the almost perfect stableness.
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Your variety experience will probably come once the theme engine is working and you can swap themes all you want.

Jellybean source being release today.

http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...-jelly-bean-source-is-now-being-released-r955

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/07/09/android-4-1-jelly-bean-released-to-aosp-right-now/
Damn it you beat me to the punch lol
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CM10 soon!!!!!!
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hopefully we get CM9 support first

lets see how fast we see something for s3

MMontanez347 said:
hopefully we get CM9 support first
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Why would they make CM9 for this phone when JB source is released? Lol that makes absolutely no sense.
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Serious_Beans said:
Why would they make CM9 for this phone when JB source is released? Lol that makes absolutely no sense.
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I believe it was said that jb code is very similar to ics. Cm9 is very close for us. A stable cm9 to cm10 would probably be faster than cm10 built from scratch. Just a guess though, I'm not a dev.
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Restola said:
I believe it was said that jb code is very similar to ics. Cm9 is very close for us. A stable cm9 to cm10 would probably be faster than cm10 built from scratch. Just a guess though, I'm not a dev.
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Nah I mean working off of CM9 would make sense if they could just merge the changes but I doubt it would officially be released just for them to release CM10 after that.
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hopefully we get CM9 support first
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I really hope we get CM7 before that
/sarcasm
really? why would you want the outdated one?

The CM team is merging the update as we speak. I think we will probably just get CM10 and not CM9 first (could be wrong though)
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We will get CM10 before CM9. All development on CM9 is being ceased after version 1.0.0. Just be patient, the source was uploaded something like 2 or 3 hours ago.

I think we will have something by next week

razorseal said:
I think we will have something by next week
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I think we'll have something by tomorrow morning.. ;-)
Joking aside, this is cool to see.
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jsmcmahon89 said:
I think we'll have something by tomorrow morning.. ;-)
Joking aside, this is cool to see.
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Joke? don't underestimate the developers on THIS phone, of all phones ) I'm gonna definatelly keep an eye on these forums. if nothing else i expect someone starting a WIP thread, an AOSP built rom, most likely not fully functional ofcourse, but compiled enough to boot up, just to give us a taste while development begins in earnest
This is just what was needed to jump-start development for the SIII

I'm curious, with Verizon's S3 flashing abilities currently being limited to roms stripped of kernels, how will this affect a jellybean rom? Is the ics kernel the same as the jb kernel?

Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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mt3g said:
Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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Reason people are saying that we could see CM10 soon is because the CM team think the code should be able to merge right into what they have with CM9, and not break that many things. With CM7 to CM9, they had to basically do everything from the ground up again because ICS was such a huge update over GB. Now JB isn't that big of an upgrade over ICS, in a way it is, but in a way it isn't. Sorry if that sounds confusing.

bigant262 said:
Reason people are saying that we could see CM10 soon is because the CM team think the code should be able to merge right into what they have with CM9, and not break that many things. With CM7 to CM9, they had to basically do everything from the ground up again because ICS was such a huge update over GB. Now JB isn't that big of an upgrade over ICS, in a way it is, but in a way it isn't. Sorry if that sounds confusing.
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That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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mt3g said:
Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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I am no dev, but heres how i understand it works;
we start with an announcement of an OS, this is done generally at Google I/O or a Nexus Event, in this case was Google I/O.
On the announcement day, devs receive the SDK; Software Development Kit.
This is released to allow the devs to begin making apps that match and run on the new OS. However, aspiring rom devs then begin to build a rom off the released SDK, generally called an sdk port.
These tend to be made simply to give us an idea of how the system would work and function, and generally might boot up and have a couple working things, but major things tend not to function because the SDK is not made for that.
Then comes the Source code, this is the real deal, it is full code of the system, code that can then be compiled to produce a fully working system, or nearly fully working. Only thing that remains missing is proprietary drivers and such, these tend to be the things specific to each phone, files that would make particular chips work, particular functions, the specific phone kernel, etc. but once you have the source code, you're over 80% done as far as having the resources needed to develop a full rom. at this stage, some devs can produce a fully working, stellar rom, but it will take quite a bit more work than devs who choose to wait for the final stage
Then comes the OTA. this is where all the device-specific stuff comes to the devices, and devs have the absolute and complete freedom to produce a fully working, better than stock, experience. This is where roms flood the dev forums.
So as far as not having AOSP yet, and now this is our chance at AOSP? No, thats not why we dont have AOSP. we dont have it cause no one built it yet; the Touchwiz UX is sooo integrated in the system that untangling and taking it all out is a long and drawn out process, and theyd need to deconstruct what we currently have, take out elements of touchwiz until its all clean, all the while making sure it doesnt break anything else.
but getting the jellybean source code propels devs because now this is a new OS, a new AOSP with its own new interesting properties. and because Jelly bean is a small update compared to ICS, now that we have source code, many of the device specific stuff wont be broken by implementing jellybean code into it, therefore building a Jellybean rom is a faster path to AOSP than untangling the current ICS for Galaxy S III
Does that make sense?
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That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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AOSP in this case is talking about the actual Android Open Source Project. so it is a bunch of code. so why are we excited? we've had ICS AOSP code for nearly a year now, what we dont have is AOSP roms. building an ICS AOSP rom is much harder than building a JB Rom, and we currently have icecream sandwich on the SIII even if its touchwized, and undoing touchwiz is quite a bit of work. but Jellybean...Oh Jellybean, now we got the source, we will start getting that baby soon and it'll boost dev on these devices. make sense?

mt3g said:
That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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Not sure if you were trying to come off rude or not, but people are excited because its the newest update, duh. Reason being we don't have 4.0 AOSP is because the phone hasn't been out that long for the US carriers.

From GS3 to Galaxy Nexus back to Gs3

So I sold my GS3 for a Galaxy Nexus because I wanted to experience Jelly Bean. Well after a week I'm back and heres why.
1. Screen bigger and better
2. Camera much better
3.phone felt much snappier(although I wasn't on Jellybean)
4.volume much louder and crisp
5.GSM Nexus had no LTE and below standard HSpa+ never over 6 mbps
So if your in to specs I say the Gs3 is the place for you.
Also if buying the Nexus off craigslist make sure it's able to receive the update the one I bought was on the wrong radio and was told it would not which Is why I sold it too.
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Well, not to be bashful or anything, but I figured going with the GSIII was a given. Jelly Bean may be great, but it's not going to do anything to get the GNex up to GSIII standards. And no worries, GSIII will get it's fill of Jelly Bean goodness soon enough.

I had the galaxy nexus, I want on JB, I have no regrets switching.
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JB will come for GS3 soon enough

Love the nexus but sold it last week. Jelly bean will soon hit roms so not a huge loss and I'll definitely be picking up the new nexus when ever it comes out.
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JB will come for GS3 soon enough
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No it won't. Official ics only just now rolled out for some sgs2 phones.The SDK was released in October of last year.
You might get some carrier leaks (buggy asz shiz) or cm10 (less buggy) but that will probably be many months.

nabbed said:
No it won't. Official ics only just now rolled out for some sgs2 phones.The SDK was released in October of last year.
You might get some carrier leaks (buggy asz shiz) or cm10 (less buggy) but that will probably be many months.
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Me personally I can wait, I never run stock and the amount or ROM's the international version has will keep me busy for a long time.
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We will be rocking cm10 in very little time.
Or at least beta of it.
Since pics to jellybean isn't a major overhaul. Like froyo to gingerbread or ginger to pics.
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humdrum2009 said:
We will be rocking cm10 in very little time.
Or at least beta of it.
Since pics to jellybean isn't a major overhaul. Like froyo to gingerbread or ginger to pics.
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Very little time = many months?
If you mean like a month or so, where do you come up with that bs?
The numbers speak clearly - look up froyo to gb, or gb to ics timeline.

nabbed said:
Very little time = many months?
If you mean like a month or so, where do you come up with that bs?
The numbers speak clearly - look up froyo to gb, or gb to ics timeline.
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Look up the change log and structure between those earlier android versions then go look at jelly bean compared to ics. Believe it or not the change isn't a complete overhaul, they meant for it to be that way.
Ps. there is already a beta jellybean on the international version, and we got cm9 and aokp within the first few weeks of the phone being out, the s3 is a whole nother beast compared to the s2
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Look up the change log and structure between those earlier android versions
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Enlighten me. Where can I find a "change log and structure" for Gingerbread/ICS and ICS/JB?
And how do those relate to programming an aosp rom?
Please.

nabbed said:
Enlighten me. Where can I find a "change log and structure" for Gingerbread/ICS and ICS/JB?
And how do those relate to programming an aosp rom?
Please.
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Here's a little info on what's being worked for CM10 if you haven't seen I already.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/BMQiaHhSMte?hl=en

masaidjet said:
Here's a little info on what's being worked for CM10 if you haven't seen I already.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/BMQiaHhSMte?hl=en
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I really wasn't interested, if you haven't guessed yet.
I was making a point about JB not being easily ported compared to ics or gb.

Im no dev but the majority of ICS porting applies to JB. Under the hood they are very similar. Google Now, the new voice software, and the triple buffering (kernel level stuff) are the major differences. Google now is an APK and the voice isn't requiring a lot of work either I'm sure.
If we don't have a fairly strong jb aosp in a month I would be surprised.
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I kept my GNex as my backup to my GSIII. Praying for some AOKP love over here in Verizon GSIII land, lol.
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I think it's pretty obvious that the jump from GB to ICS is what took so long. imagine trying to get all your current apps and data and customization to work with a new OS with zero hiccups and nothing lost. ICS is so completely different from GB, I'm not surprised it took so long. The jump to JB from ICS isn't nearly as large, as some people have pointed out. I'm banking on us getting it early Q4.

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I kept my GNex as my backup to my GSIII. Praying for some AOKP love over here in Verizon GSIII land, lol.
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Ha ha right? The only thing that bothers me about the gnex is the screen and camera, the screen for some reason on my GS3 looks much better
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jgalan14 said:
Ha ha right? The only thing that bothers me about the gnex is the screen and camera, the screen for some reason on my GS3 looks much better
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Yup and it's spec wise not much bigger but the Gs3s screen just looks much nicer and bigger.
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CM 10 doesn't require a bunch of new drivers or official blobs from Samsung so it should be rewrite of code and implementing the apps and such. If the SGS III got AOSP ICS in weeks I'd say cm 10 might be weeks away from the point source was released. I'm not positive cause I'm not on a computer, but I think Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) has the SGS III for T-Mobile. I'm no where near a PC (just my phone til Monday)... if he is on the device as the main team member, we are looking at great nightlys and then some.
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mt3g said:
CM 10 doesn't require a bunch of new drivers or official blobs from Samsung so it should be rewrite of code and implementing the apps and such. If the SGS III got AOSP ICS in weeks I'd say cm 10 might be weeks away from the point source was released. I'm not positive cause I'm not on a computer, but I think Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) has the SGS III for T-Mobile. I'm no where near a PC (just my phone til Monday)... if he is on the device as the main team member, we are looking at great nightlys and then some.
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I agree he actually has post in the nightly build topic, so he most likely is working on it
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4.2 AOSP out!

Woohoo! Can't wait for cm10 team to start merging in the new 4.2 goodness!
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/13/android-4-2-headed-to-aosp-right-now/

Woohoo....see what the devs come up with on this
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thats just great! cant wait to get the n10 and flash it with a good & nice aosp rom

Yep looking forward to this to. I have been running Siyah Kernel for a couple of weeks and it's great to be able to switch between the stable stock based rom and CM10

Yep same as on the Nexus 7 forums too, looking forward to having 4.2 AOSP on both my Galaxy S3 and Nexus 7:laugh:

Want omega's team to get cracking
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Won't take long to CM10-4.2 get released. I guess 4.2 uses the same base and stuff, so won't be a problem. Still, I may stick with Samsung. I love CM10 but not CM10 for i9300. Colors doesn't look good, laggy and a lot of random bugs.

Looking forward to it. Unfortunately cm10 on i9300 is beyond the team's control . If Samsung took their thumbs outta their asses and start releasing the RIGHT source and docs for Xynos, we might actually get somewhere. Its a miracle we've come this far without it.
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I see a lot of people comment that Touchwiz ROMs run more smoothly than CM based builds. This is exactly the opposite of my experience. I find the Cyanogen team's work to be second to none, which is remarkable considering they're volunteering their time.

nnotis said:
I see a lot of people comment that Touchwiz ROMs run more smoothly than CM based builds. This is exactly the opposite of my experience. I find the Cyanogen team's work to be second to none, which is remarkable considering they're volunteering their time.
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Definitely agree with you!
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More power to the CM Team! I loved the ROM ever since.
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It's freaking me out a bit that my Verizon Galaxy Nexus will get a 4.2 custom ROM before my Nexus 4. WTF?

With the CM vs TW ROM debate, is there one Vanilla ROM that you think proves that theory that they run smoother and faster because I'd love to test it if there is one. I've always also felt that TW runs smoother? Maybe I'm wrong. Is LiquidSmooth a good example?

foxhound tw Rom is ridiculously smooth
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Let's not change this thread to a TW vs CM, shall we?

Wohoooo! cant wait to get this one on my phone!

RoadXY said:
Let's not change this thread to a TW vs CM, shall we?
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why fight when siyah gives the best of both worlds
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RoadXY said:
Let's not change this thread to a TW vs CM, shall we?
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I think that comment probably did that more than anyone else's. I think it's a perfectly valid part of the discussion. I'm not suggesting we sit here and go back and forth on ROM names. But I'll ask my question in a different way. What is it about the AOSP release that's out there now that isn't working well that will be improved by this 4.2 release? Ultimately, this isn't about one ROM base vs another it's about whether AOSP can be made to work bug-free with the I9300 hardware, isn't it?

tinpanalley said:
I think that comment probably did that more than anyone else's. I think it's a perfectly valid part of the discussion. I'm not suggesting we sit here and go back and forth on ROM names. But I'll ask my question in a different way. What is it about the AOSP release that's out there now that isn't working well that will be improved by this 4.2 release? Ultimately, this isn't about one ROM base vs another it's about whether AOSP can be made to work bug-free with the I9300 hardware, isn't it?
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I believe it's also to do with what new FEATURES have been added to the new AOSP release and less to do with how much stability it will add (since that is dependent more on Samsung releasing the source than what AOSP has to offer in terms of stability).
Some of us would like to make use of the new features of 4.2 and not have to wait for an official Samsung update.
Having said all this, at the end of the day, that's my point of view and I don't expect everyone to agree.

dilwaala said:
Woohoo! Can't wait for cm10 team to start merging in the new 4.2 goodness!
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/13/android-4-2-headed-to-aosp-right-now/
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Woot, the race is on!