So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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No, they don't throttle.
myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use.
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HAHA welcome to the "Now Network". Sprint=dial-up speeds. Myself, or my 3 friends on Sprint, haven't gotten above 100kbps since last October. It happens everywhere I travel too. Well, except between 2am and 4am, then it works perfectly fine, when everyone else is asleep.
It seems to me like they do during the day. My 3g is not near as fast as it used to be during the day. It wasnt a gradual decrease. More like a sudden. While my connection at my house still pulls 1.0-1.3mbps at my house during the day, I used to get 2+mbps there during the day. Now I don't get that speed til 1-5am. You're probably thinking "wtf are you *****ing about?!" Cuz it is very fast at my house. ****ty part is that everywhere else its nowhere near 1.0mbps. More like 0.2-0.4. And I'm NEVER home. That's the problem. Oh well. Its either live with it or go pay $40-50 more to get raped by verizon.
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Mine used to be around 3Mb/s on 3g, that was when I first got my contract. It seems the more I tethered and used more and more data the slower it got. yestursay I got .25 mb/s! Flashed radios this morning and i'm up to 1.
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It seems to me like they do during the day.
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No, they don't throttle during the day, they dont throttle at all. The reason your speeds are crappy during the day is because there are too many people using it during the day, and each tower's crappy T1 line backhaul can't handle more than a few MB/s total for everyone connected to it.
Darn you other sprint users i'm my area, turn your 3g off!
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One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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Please don't talk about things you know nothing of. Verizon has MVNOs just as Sprint does.
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DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
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No it is just naturally slow. I guess you could say it comes "pre-throttled"
KJ
Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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Paid hotspots are now limited to 5gb data per month did ya not get the notice? After 5gb hotspot ur either throttled or paying per mb FYI
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I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.
tmwilsoniv said:
The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.
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Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense now, how I get throttled living in a city of 600k, but someone out in a rural area remains untouched. It's all good tho, just discovered a new open wifi here in the neighborhood... lol
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I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Ha! I had one of those Nokias, but my first real cell phone was an Oki 910. Before that it was a Motorola bag phone, still have that old beast in storage some where.. Just bought some new boots, the box would fit in the "bag" lol
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The picture explains itself ....shame on tmobile lol
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This is nothing new, my friend.
No look at my bill cycle date and the date in the notification bar and time
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aside from the screwup on TMo's end for not starting off the billing cycle the day of (in your case), I find it ironic the message beneath your data usage. Today they sent me a txt with the same msg, put it like this it took me 5 min to download the 3.5mb file that is tweetdeck. shame. all that tethering internet crap caught up to me this month :'(
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No look at my bill cycle date and the date in the notification bar and time
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Ah, I see. I think Tmobile's hours of operation are on pacific time here in the states. Another hour and forty-five minutes and you should be good.
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aside from the screwup on TMo's end for not starting off the billing cycle the day of (in your case), I find it ironic the message beneath your data usage. Today they sent me a txt with the same msg, put it like this it took me 5 min to download the 3.5mb file that is tweetdeck. shame. all that tethering internet crap caught up to me this month :'(
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Same here I wish there was no cap why is there tethering with a cap, illogical, tmo= fail but still cheaper than att
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Ah, I see. I think Tmobile's hours of operation are on pacific time here in the states. Another hour and forty-five minutes and you should be good.
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I believe they can (not saying they will) throttle you for the month following as well, if they feel you (and others like you) are impacting the quality of service for others.
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Same here I wish there was no cap why is there tethering with a cap, illogical, tmo= fail but still cheaper than att
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To be fair, T-Mobile isnt charging for tethering (from what I know) and it still has unlimited access whereas other companies charge you more for going over or simply has a hard cap
Just to add to this post.
Tmobile changed their "unlimited" to a soft cap at 5GB last fall.
But people like me on the old grandfathered 19.99 BIS plan (yes my BIS works perfectly with my Samsung Vibrant). Aren't grandfathered plans like mine; isn't the soft cap on old users like me at 10GB? instead of 5GB.
I never even reach 1GB on a a good month even with tethering on the Vibrant. But I don't tether that much.
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I believe they can (not saying they will) throttle you for the month following as well, if they feel you (and others like you) are impacting the quality of service for others.
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Please do not spread further misinformation on this.
Only Verizon has stated they'll do this. T-Mobile never once said that they would do that. They never have done that.
d0es removing the cap procedure with providing different APN still works ? if yessss screw you tmo ;P hope u wont catch me doin it tho pp
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To be fair, T-Mobile isnt charging for tethering (from what I know) and it still has unlimited access whereas other companies charge you more for going over or simply has a hard cap
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Is not actually unlimited,because when they throttle you pages hardly ever load,the phone is good just for making call and sending text,other than that is completely worthless.
They actually throttle you so hard to 56KB because it is actually the best workaround to actually stop you from using your data,without actually and completely stopping your connection,and they can still claim that it still is unlimited.
Now they are advertising here the Vibrant 4G,with bells and whistles as a 4G phone capable of blazing fast 21MB connection on their 4G HSPA+ network all in very big letters.
And when you read the incredibly small and almost unreadable letters it say HSPA+ 4G no available in Puerto Rico..
And some how their adds are not misleading.
aneftp said:
Just to add to this post.
Tmobile changed their "unlimited" to a soft cap at 5GB last fall.
But people like me on the old grandfathered 19.99 BIS plan (yes my BIS works perfectly with my Samsung Vibrant). Aren't grandfathered plans like mine; isn't the soft cap on old users like me at 10GB? instead of 5GB.
I never even reach 1GB on a a good month even with tethering on the Vibrant. But I don't tether that much.
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I totally agree. I first used to get a text saying I hit the 10gb limit then it changed to 5gb. I'm on the g1 plan. Tethering is also not the only culprit. I download mixtapes (for promotional use only) to the phone. I stream. Some of the newer games have some big files to download. Why use wifi I paid for unlimited no quotes web.
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Please do not spread further misinformation on this.
Only Verizon has stated they'll do this. T-Mobile never once said that they would do that. They never have done that.
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Actually tmobile does state it in the fine print if you look at it.
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Is not actually unlimited,because when they throttle you pages hardly ever load,the phone is good just for making call and sending text,other than that is completely worthless.
They actually throttle you so hard to 56KB because it is actually the best workaround to actually stop you from using your data,without actually and completely stopping your connection,and they can still claim that it still is unlimited.
Now they are advertising here the Vibrant 4G,with bells and whistles as a 4G phone capable of blazing fast 21MB connection on their 4G HSPA+ network all in very big letters.
And when you read the incredibly small and almost unreadable letters it say HSPA+ 4G no available in Puerto Rico..
And some how their adds are not misleading.
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Deja vu.
LoL. I went into the myaccount app and tried to set an alert for data. It said due to the fact I have an unlimited data plan I can't use this feature. So the app thinks just like me.
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The picture explains itself ....shame on tmobile lol
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They did that to me once. Throttled me less than 24 hours until my cycle renewed. Like less than a day matters, apparently it does to them though. Tmo FTW!
Edited, when throttled, it was my experience that turning on edge only data was much faster than the throttled 3g. It seems they don't throttle the edge side, just the 3g data.
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Actually tmobile does state it in the fine print if you look at it.
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Where in the fine print does it say that they're going to cap you for your *next* billing cycle as well?
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They did that to me once. Throttled me less than 24 hours until my cycle renewed. Like less than a day matters, apparently it does to them though. Tmo FTW!
Edited, when throttled, it was my experience that turning on edge only data was much faster than the throttled 3g. It seems they don't throttle the edge side, just the 3g data.
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How do you get to edge I knew how to in my cliq and mytouch slide but not this phone.
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How do you get to edge I knew how to in my cliq and mytouch slide but not this phone.
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Settings - wireless and networks - mobile network - network mode.
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Where in the fine print does it say that they're going to cap you for your *next* billing cycle as well?
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My mistake, misread the post you quoted lol.
Just update the new PRL, now let's test the 3G data out. Fellow EVO owners, let's see if the new PRL helps your 3G data speed.
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This has been posted already....
What happens if I update my prl???
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Didn't know that this was posted. 1604 up and 719 down just south of Nashville. Nice.
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Stevo760 hopefully that this new PRL helps your data speed.
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damn 1600? lucky bastard. anyone else confirm this? im on cm with verizon prl and i would hate to go back to sense right now to try it out
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damn 1600? lucky bastard. anyone else confirm this? im on cm with verizon prl and i would hate to go back to sense right now to try it out
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No, this PRL, like others have done nothing to help my 3g speed.....my 4g speed is the same at around 8Mb/s.
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Here's another 3G test read. This one is from Atlanta. 1202 up 689 down. I'm an owner operator in the trucking business, so I test out my data as I travel the country. My 3G data started to suck like many others, for me, it started in January. 19 to 400 kbs up and or down. I bought my EVO the first day it went on sale. Never had a problem with the data speed until I went over 5 gigs of usage back in January, in which that I used around 9 plus gigs. I'm on the unlimited everything plan. This is just my opinion, I believe that Sprint is putting us on the throttle. Getting 2.4 megs up and 800 kbs down on 3G was not uncommon for me to achieve in many locations around the USA, especially in the north east. Not any more.
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Here's another 3G test read. This one is from Atlanta. 1202 up 689 down. I'm an owner operator in the trucking business, so I test out my data as I travel the country. My 3G data started to suck like many others around January. I bought my EVO the first day it went on sale. Never had a problem with the data speed until I went over 5 gigs of usage back in January, in which that I used around 9 plus gigs. I'm on the unlimited everything plan. This is just my opinion, I believe that Sprint is putting us on the throttle. Getting 2.4 megs up and 800 kbs down on 3G was not uncommon for me to achieve in many locations around the USA, especially in the north east. Not any more.
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Don't think they are throttling us because its to big of an outage.. for everyone sake let's hope they are about to announce a update to their network!
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Just got off the phone with (a very pleasant) Sprint rep re: slow 3G data.
There is -- as has been reported by others -- some wide-ranging, nationwide 3G issue, compounded by tower issues in many locations.
As I was told, in my area, there's been a tower issue since mid-February, which complicates at least a partial outage in the eastern half of the country.
Maybe Sprint is making updates/changes to their net but in the process, hosing 3G cover?
Sudden widespread "tower issues"... sounds like a convenient excuse for one of two things.
1) Throttling (there is already another debate thread on this).
2) Their network is maxed out and the influx of smartphones has killed it.
I just find it funny they are so quick to blame the "towers" instead of just being honest. I mean really is having technical issues to your hardware much better than the real reason(s)?
I agree. I think something is going on. Plus why would Sprint feel the need to hide the fact that they are throttling 3G data unless they know they are wrong for doing it? Afterall we are all paying $10 extra per month for premium unlimited data... WHICH WE ARE NOT GETTING!!!
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207 kbps down
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When one of the tech guys called me on Monday about my slow 3G speeds, I asked him if there was some sort of outage or nationwide 3G issues. He quickly and bluntly said NO.
Ive been having issues since nov and have been constantly complaining to get nothing but tower excuses to your phone is messed up. All bs. I told them either a. You have to many tower issues or b. U take to long to fix them.
1972 download and 495 upload in southern colorado. Before I was lucky to get 150 down and 75 up.
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I did the update last wek week but speeds are the same
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Here's another 3G test read. This one is from Atlanta. 1202 up 689 down. I'm an owner operator in the trucking business, so I test out my data as I travel the country. My 3G data started to suck like many others, for me, it started in January. 19 to 400 kbs up and or down. I bought my EVO the first day it went on sale. Never had a problem with the data speed until I went over 5 gigs of usage back in January, in which that I used around 9 plus gigs. I'm on the unlimited everything plan. This is just my opinion, I believe that Sprint is putting us on the throttle. Getting 2.4 megs up and 800 kbs down on 3G was not uncommon for me to achieve in many locations around the USA, especially in the north east. Not any more.
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Same problem here to man I know for a fact im throttled down same phone plan i hit 5 gigs and down she went.
can anyone upload 60675?! my battery is going down way fast with this PRL
....just long enough for this test.
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Pretty big difference between Sprint and WiFi, which is useless when I still cannot make or receive calls... Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.
Ouch man, where do you live? Oh are you strictly speaking 3G? I average 1200 to 1400kbps on 3G
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That's not good. On the UK on my sensation (o2) I got 2mb down and 1 up
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That's not good. On the UK on my sensation (o2) I got 2mb down and 1 up
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3g isn't impressive at all but I am happy with my 4g speed considering its unlimited . 1.2 to 1.4Mbps download isn't great but I never use 3g anyway
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my sprint 3g looks like your wifi. usually around 2mbs. i heart sprint. i think ill go make a thread about it.
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my sprint 3g looks like your wifi. usually around 2mbs. i heart sprint. i think ill go make a thread about it.
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I am really satisfied with Sprint myself. If only the younger users know what using a cell phone used to be like...
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JohnCorleone said:
I am really satisfied with Sprint myself. If only the younger users know what using a cell phone used to be like...
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Can you hear me now?
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We were supposed to have 4g a year ago and don't and won't ever have it. Its the iPhone users causing the data issues and Sprints poor decision to carry it on this old network. Im guessing people with good 3g service don't have many iPhone users in their area.
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. Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.
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If you read the stories, people are complaining that the iPhone is getting much slower data than other Sprint phones in side by side comparisons, same time same location.
Seriously, I hate iPhones as much as you do, but why are you blaming them for your crappy service? They don't use any more data than high end android phones. Sounds like the tower in your area has an issue. Maybe they are doing maintenance.
I just ran a speedtest at my house, which has always been a low signal area. (side of a hill, shadowed from the tower). Today I'm getting 2 bars (never seen more than 3 here, usually get 1 or zero.) and in 3 tests I got a low of 226 kbps and a high of 320 kbsp on 3G. Pretty normal for the location. Trust me, the iPhone is everywhere in this neighborhood.
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If you read the stories, people are complaining that the iPhone is getting much slower data than other Sprint phones in side by side comparisons, same time same location.
Seriously, I hate iPhones as much as you do, but why are you blaming them for your crappy service? They don't use any more data than high end android phones. Sounds like the tower in your area has an issue. Maybe they are doing maintenance.
I just ran a speedtest at my house, which has always been a low signal area. (side of a hill, shadowed from the tower). Today I'm getting 2 bars (never seen more than 3 here, usually get 1 or zero.) and in 3 tests I got a low of 226 kbps and a high of 320 kbsp on 3G. Pretty normal for the location. Trust me, the iPhone is everywhere in this neighborhood.
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I doubt they're doing maintenance. We're usually the last city for anything with Sprint, and this bad service started for me also right after the iPhone launch, it could be anything, but it coincides with that.
And what sucks is the week of the iPhone launch I was able to download the cm7 ROM in less then 30 minutes, now I'm lucky to get 1 bar of signal if I hold the phone just right.
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My signal has been wavering in the last few weeks. I go back-and-forth between 4 bars to none. I live in a metropolitan area that too was promised 4G over a year ago by sales representatives in-store. (Yea... no need to comment on that. I already know the responses, ha ha.)
If you are unhappy, you have three options:
Leave Sprint for another carrier.
Call Sprint and complain. You may be able to get some type of monetary and/or technical assistance for the issues.
Do nothing and enjoy the wonders of Sprint's "marvelous" network.
The last option is my tactic for now, as I want to give Sprint the opportunity to fix their coverage in my area. Though my patience is wearing thin.
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....just long enough for this test.
Pretty big difference between Sprint and WiFi, which is useless when I still cannot make or receive calls... Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.
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I too get between 1.0 to 1.4 Mps with my 3g speeds.
You need to talk to sprint about getting air rave or change your prl to verizon or something. Those speeds are just sorry.
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Ouch man, where do you live? Oh are you strictly speaking 3G? I average 1200 to 1400kbps on 3G
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Shut up man You're killing me with your "super" 3G speeds..
I just posted on twitter yesterday about this. I'm getting .25-200kbps down and 24kbps up. :-(
It's been like this for months. I got the next 4 months free though, so I can't really complain. They are currently upgrading capacity in my area. I can't take this much longer.
Nice to see you
My 3g is fast and signal is always good where I live.. switch carriors if your area doesn't have good services .....
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I got the next 4 months free though, so I can't really complain.
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Sounds like you're getting what you're paying for!
In all seriousness, pathetic speeds, but their customer service at least seems good. I can't complain around here... Just pulled 1057/370 on 3G.
I just pulled 653kb down and 459kb up. Not as bad as some (Rob) but still pretty pathetic.
@John: Between your super 3G speeds and the battery life shots Zigg & Paul keep sending me from their Nexus S's, I'm a sad panda here.
Has anyone else had problems with 4g connecting todayin the baltimore area?
At my work location in Long Island, I get the same speeds with Sprint 3G as I get on Verizon 1x (RoamControl) = pathetic. It is indoors but close to a window. 2 bars with Sprint, 5 with VZW. Once Prime is released, methinks it's goodbye Sprint, hello VZW data caps
Hang in there. I can honestly say I was in your boat for months here. They finally rolled out extra capacity in my city last Thursday. I'm getting 1.5 MBits/sec at last.
Before that, I was getting 50kbps down, or sometimes it would timeout.
But you should call in and file a complaint. I'd imagine problems tend to get fixed faster on the technicians queues with more complaints.
That network speed test that your using will get you mixed results. Change your closest tower in the setting and try again. I was getting the same results whe I picked my hometown kalamazoo, mi. But when I picked chicago. My speed went up. I notice this while doing a speed test on my home computer. Then when I had my wifi on my phone I was getting a third of the speeed I should of.
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Kinda sucks!
You don't realize how much data you use when you have such a fast connection..
I barely used the damn thing
So, when I get to 5GB, will it stop saying 4G on the top and show 1x ?
Will I at least be able to send text messatges?
Armageddon my friend....be prepared.
In all seriousness chill out, the only thing that will happen is your speeds will be reduced dramatically, slower than edge speeds. It will still display "4g" though keep in mind we don't even have true 4g so get that out of your head. Messages and data don't have anything to do with each other unless were dealing with mms, then at which point you will still receive but the transfer speed will be super slow. My recommendation for when you get capped....force your phone on edge
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iLeopard said:
Armageddon my friend....be prepared.
In all seriousness chill out, the only thing that will happen is your speeds will be reduced dramatically, slower than edge speeds. It will still display "4g" though keep in mind we don't even have true 4g so get that out of your head. Messages and data don't have anything to do with each other unless were dealing with mms, then at which point you will still receive but the transfer speed will be super slow. My recommendation for when you get capped....force your phone on edge
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You can call our data speeds "HOBO G"
I don't care if someone says its not true 4G, who ever said what was true or not anyway?
I couldn't ask for anything really better than this
sure LTE can do much more, but I get those speeds almost EVERYWHERE!!
True 4G or not, It's as fast, so why even bother saying its not "true" 4g, lol
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I don't care if someone says its not true 4G, who ever said what was true or not anyway?
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the ITU, who decides these standards. basically after they put together the 4g standard tmob and att *****ed (and probably paid a good amount of money) to have 'advanced 3g' included as '4g'.
to the op, you may not get throttled the first time or the second, you'll get sms messages saying you are throttled. when you are actually throttled, you can expect 64kbps max. it's absolutely useless.
How do you use so much data?
I kinda disgree with LTE being able to much more atleast, at the rev Verizon has theirs. I have a mifi from them and the only difference I see is upload is better 6megs usually. Then again their network goes down at least twice a month or when they have a new LTE phone to market. Download is usually about the same if not better or I should more sustained if your tethering then on my mifi. Its both a race and frankly I was kinda disappointed to hear the CEO of T-Mobile say the were going to use some the 4bill to deploy LTE. HSPA has a long way to go before it needs replacing.
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How do you use so much data?
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i easily can kill my allotted 4G speeds with Spotify and "Play Music".
After you go over your 5gb, your speeds will be practically unusable for any thing outside email.
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i easily can kill my allotted 4G speeds with Spotify and "Play Music".
After you go over your 5gb, your speeds will be practically unusable for any thing outside email.
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this. in my experience, it takes streaming music through 'play music' one hour per day to hit 5GB in 30 days.
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I kinda disgree with LTE being able to much more atleast, at the rev Verizon has theirs. I have a mifi from them and the only difference I see is upload is better 6megs usually. Then again their network goes down at least twice a month or when they have a new LTE phone to market. Download is usually about the same if not better or I should more sustained if your tethering then on my mifi. Its both a race and frankly I was kinda disappointed to hear the CEO of T-Mobile say the were going to use some the 4bill to deploy LTE. HSPA has a long way to go before it needs replacing.
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you must have never used ATT LTE... that **** wipes the floor with us. However, I always say.. why do you want to download so fast with an expensive data plan as theirs lol.
So Treo how fast is fast on ATT? and how long is that going to last since there are very few people with LTE enabled devices on ATT. I can pretty much say that when the new iPhone comes out with LTE on ATT their network will be flooded. VZW network was bleeding fast when it first came out too. Which begs the question how fast is to fast. Cell phones have already past 6 bonded t1s. "9" megs 10 megs is the starter package for those putting thier svrs in a data center. Is 20 megs down not enough?
In atl ATT thier dsl isn't even that fast. 6 megs is all you get. You have to step up to u-puke to get 24 megs down. That's wireline service with tv so at this point even at HSPA we are ahead which is amazing but the user isn't going to see the download speed as much surfing or checking email even netflix works fine at 4 megs. What the user "us" notice is lag when doing all the above minus netflix. The only thing other than this is if your downloading a large file etc and at that point one has to ask if that file would have been better downloaded to a laptop or desktop or if its a PowerPoint sales file or employee reviews doc etc then there's security questions involved as well that are much more easily handled on a laptop.
So at the end of all this how fast to u is fast enough. What speed do u need to be able to get all of your mobile life in a month done?
Also its usually the 3rd month your cap kicks in unless your just massively abusive. Say like hitting your cap 5 days into your billing cycle two months running. The 2gig plan their less forgiving. Just try to use WiFi as much as u can.
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So Treo how fast is fast on ATT? and how long is that going to last since there are very few people with LTE enabled devices on ATT. I can pretty much say that when the new iPhone comes out with LTE on ATT their network will be flooded. VZW network was bleeding fast when it first came out too. Which begs the question how fast is to fast. Cell phones have already past 6 bonded t1s. "9" megs 10 megs is the starter package for those putting thier svrs in a data center. Is 20 megs down not enough?
In atl ATT thier dsl isn't even that fast. 6 megs is all you get. You have to step up to u-puke to get 24 megs down. That's wireline service with tv so at this point even at HSPA we are ahead which is amazing but the user isn't going to see the download speed as much surfing or checking email even netflix works fine at 4 megs. What the user "us" notice is lag when doing all the above minus netflix. The only thing other than this is if your downloading a large file etc and at that point one has to ask if that file would have been better downloaded to a laptop or desktop or if its a PowerPoint sales file or employee reviews doc etc then there's security questions involved as well that are much more easily handled on a laptop.
So at the end of all this how fast to u is fast enough. What speed do u need to be able to get all of your mobile life in a month done?
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Well it really depends on the area, but at very strong places it ranges up to about 60+ down and 25+ up...
but their averages is about half of that 30+ and 12-15 up
Our phone peaked i think around 24? I don't remember seeing anyone getting much higher. Not sure about upload speed but it was single digit thats for sure.
our average would be in the teens for download 10-15. Yes we can get higher but their average is about doubled ours..
not sure why you're asking me how fast is too fast? and how fast is fast enough? I don't think I made any points or argument about that... lol I only said that with such a high speed data, but only with like 4gb average data plan... yeah...
But honestly the t989 data speed is more than enough.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454576&page=3
I'm sure there are other threads too.
WOW 60 Megs down!! That's is very impressive. Is that just a speed test or a sustained download?.
Edit- Thx for the link, ya we could get there HSPA+ can go to 168.
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WOW 60 Megs down!! That's is very impressive. Is that just a speed test or a sustained download?.
Edit- Thx for the link, ya we could get there HSPA+ can go to 168.
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yeah I was like WTF do you need all that speed for? they have a strong cap on their data plan right? lol
but yeah I'm not too worried about our data speed. I'm more than satisfied with it.
I'm pretty sure most of the measurements is done through speedtest and probably a few through sustained speeds. but I doubt these guys are gonna download a big enough file, see the transfer rate in KBps then change it to kbps (bytes to bits) lol
LOL look.. anything and I mean ANYTHING!! over 5mb/s download is gravy
That being said, i average around 12-15 with peaking at 20
in 3 years, I will bet no LTE will be as available as our HSPA 42+
I drove 400 miles 2 weeks ago and lost service maybe twice for about 10 minutes.
LTE? Wimax? LOL right, you're lucky to have it when you need it.
As for speeds, sure, it's faster but it's a waste, unless you're using it to download torrents, 5 mg down is more than enough to do ANYTHING
And I mean anything, including tethering to a roku device and streaming HD netflix!
As for this being "Fake" it's not, its was approved 4G and that's why t-mobile can call it that, 4G
As for how I use that much data, well its not hard, I bike every day and use a program called sports tracker live, which tracks my rides, I also sometimes stream slingplayer to listen to the news while riding.
I stream music every so often, I tether to my Xoom or Ipad if I'm out and about.
It's so darn easy to use the data when you have the speeds.
I'm at 98% now and have yet to get a text or email, should I try the throttle trick?
Yes, your speed will be reduced a lot, but no extra cost I think
I wonder
I'm wondering if anyone else has what I have.
When I took a look at the OP screen shot I noticed there was as asterisk that showed the 5gb high speed limit. So I logged into my Tmo account to check mine because I am running a custom ROM and dont have the Tmo app installed.
My sis line(1yr old) says "Data: 1.4 GB / Unlimited (up to 5 GB high-speed data)"
Mine line(12yrs old) says "Data: 3.9 GB / Unlimited", there is no asterisk that states I have a 5gb high speed limit or any mention of a limit at all.
I have been with Tmo for 12yrs(since VoiceStream) and never changed my number. I have had this data plan for I dont remember how many years, but I know it was before they started talking this "high speed cap" thing. Does anyone think I may not have a "high speed cap". Can someone else log into their Tmo account online, and see what yours says?
You might have been "grandfathered" into their unlimited plan. I know Verizon was doing the same thing right before I switched to their plan.
Verizon was unlimited before, they announced they were capping their plans and if you had a plan before that date you were grandfathered in. I'm thinking that is what happened to you.
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I'm wondering if anyone else has what I have.
When I took a look at the OP screen shot I noticed there was as asterisk that showed the 5gb high speed limit. So I logged into my Tmo account to check mine because I am running a custom ROM and dont have the Tmo app installed.
My sis line(1yr old) says "Data: 1.4 GB / Unlimited (up to 5 GB high-speed data)"
Mine line(12yrs old) says "Data: 3.9 GB / Unlimited", there is no asterisk that states I have a 5gb high speed limit or any mention of a limit at all.
I have been with Tmo for 12yrs(since VoiceStream) and never changed my number. I have had this data plan for I dont remember how many years, but I know it was before they started talking this "high speed cap" thing. Does anyone think I may not have a "high speed cap". Can someone else log into their Tmo account online, and see what yours says?
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Well I got my brand-new Samsung galaxy S3 (off contract) and I’ve been playing around the last couple of weeks streaming video and whatnot and to my surprise I get the dreaded text message from AT&T stating that I just got throttled. This is the first-time and I am PISSED!! I am SURE this has been covered before but it’s the first time for me. I had no idea exactly how much they throttled you by until now. I mean you can’t do anything once they tightened the noose. I am grandfathered in with an unlimited LTE plan also which really makes it that much more irritating. Well I guess I need to download that app that finds free hotspots. I am in the San Antonio Texas area and we have good mobile data coverage down here so I have to wonder if there are any providers offering a truly unlimited non-throttled or less throttled 4g (of some kind) data plan. I know that Sprint is just getting their LTE service fired up and they are offering an unlimited plan in my area and technically I am not under contract right now which I made abundantly clear to the AT&T employee that I was speaking with (ranting to) like she cared. Does Sprint pull the same crap that AT&T does? Do I have any options? Thanks in advance.
Sprint just deployed their LTE recently and I've seen data speeds around 30+ MB/s reported by users in Texas
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We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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I'm a moron. Nm.
When I'm throttled on att ... my data speed goes from LTE to regular 3G , which is more then enough to stream video and music. How slow are you getting?
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We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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LTE? How are speeds?
s1mpd1ddy said:
When I'm throttled on att ... my data speed goes from LTE to regular 3G , which is more then enough to stream video and music. How slow are you getting?
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I went from almost 50mbs down to .5mbs down and up! Its enough to do little stuff but that's not the point. Its just unacceptable to be THAT limited on an UN-limited plan. Ive been with them 10 years since they were SWB and Cingular Wireless and Ive never come close to 5 gigs until now. How do we stream video and other data intensive stuff on 5 lousy gigs a month? Sprint offers Unlimited LTE in my area NON throttled according to Sprint rep. I will go to Sprint store tomorrow and see how fast it is. I am not under AT&T contract so I can shop around. The plan im on is almost as much as the unlimited Sprint plan so no big price difference. Is there a catch to Sprints data service? Do they start charging extra or or limit download size or cut you off if you tethering or anything? Is Sprint a good alternative to AT&T? Sprint seems the logical choice if thier speed is equal or near AT&Ts. Is AT&Ts call quality better or Sprint? Inst Sprint CDMA? Info greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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I went from almost 50mbs down to .5mbs down and up! Its enough to do little stuff but that's not the point. Its just unacceptable to be THAT limited on an UN-limited plan. Ive been with them 10 years since they were SWB and Cingular Wireless and Ive never come close to 5 gigs until now. How do we stream video and other data intensive stuff on 5 lousy gigs a month? Sprint offers Unlimited LTE in my area NON throttled according to Sprint rep. I will go to Sprint store tomorrow and see how fast it is. I am not under AT&T contract so I can shop around. The plan im on is almost as much as the unlimited Sprint plan so no big price difference. Is there a catch to Sprints data service? Do they start charging extra or or limit download size or cut you off if you tethering or anything? Is Sprint a good alternative to AT&T? Sprint seems the logical choice if thier speed is equal or near AT&Ts. Is AT&Ts call quality better or Sprint? Inst Sprint CDMA? Info greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Lucky. Tmo goes to edge which is Max .08mbps
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We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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Im grandfathered in for unlim data for Vz. 14 days into my billing cycle sitting with 94.7 GB
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Im grandfathered in for unlim data for Vz. 14 days into my billing cycle sitting with 94.7 GB
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Good god, may I ask what you use all that data doing? I'm getting 10mbs on sprint.
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To answer you question there are no gimmicks with Sprint when it comes to unlimited data. There plans really are unlimited and I live in Atlanta where my 4gLTE just activated and I am very pleased with the speeds. I'm loving Sprint right now.
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Since the 5th, I've switched to Sprint. Coverage blows in stl, but blown past my 2gb cap I had with att and living that so far. Some coverage and I will be set!
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If I had lte on sprint I'd be all over it. But 3g by me is horrible and no service whatsoever at my house really kills it. So I recently switched to att where my coverage is awesome and my 3g is easily 8x faster on average. If lte on sprint ever comes to my area I will certainly reconsider my choice. Until then ill live with my 5gb att cap.
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5. something gbs........ throttled
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I live in Jefferson City, MO and we aren't slated for LTE until later this year.
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The only reason Sprint has been able to offer truely unlimited plans is because the speeds were just too slow to generate any meaningful volume. With LTE now, they will be in the same position (likely worse equipped) once volume increases across the network. Enjoy it while it lasts. I certainly wouldn't be jumping ship having unlimited (5g) with ATT in hand to have fully unlimited data for a year or so.
Sprint doesn't cut you off or anything when it comes to data usage (unless you're roaming.) Go to 500 gb a month if you'd like.
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5. something gbs........ throttled
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Those throttled speeds are faster than most peoples Sprint 3G speeds
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Those throttled speeds are faster than most peoples Sprint 3G speeds
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as it should be... its 4g
I don't know why people are so up in arms about this stuff. Most carriers are going to tiered data.... it's the way it is and nothing's changing that. It's already been in the rumor mill based on some things done/said by sprint that they too, will be going to throttled/tiered methods to controlling data. I don't know about you guys, but I know that ever since tethering became very popular, TONS of people have been trying to use their mobile data connections as primary internet sources. While it's all fine and dandy that you feel that you should use your data how you want, the networks (and when I say networks, i mean ALL of them) are not yet ready to support everybody's daily habits and still be strong enough to support the current flow of telephone calls or data calls.
When that day comes, by all means, have the carriers put out unlimited data plans and have your telephone be your primary internet connection, but until that day when the networks are strong enough to support it, I still want to be able to make phone calls if need be, especially in an emergency.
By having service, it doesn't give anybody the right to unlimited data, or if they do have it, to use it however they wish. There are still terms and conditions with each company. I know it's not something that everybody likes, but it's the way life is. I am personally pretty glad that the carriers are approaching it this way, because in my area, I see first hand how tethering on smart phones can easily cripple networks at this current time.
I'll give you all an example. I work in a town of 45,000 people, with a "metropolitan" style town surrounding with a grand total of like 80,000 people. That's not a whole lot, which means there's not a ****load of towers here to support our mobile data/calling habits. The thing is, we're in Wisconsin, and there's a lot of places in Wisconsin that you can now get 3G service but can't even get Satellite internet service more than 700kbps. 3G service in those areas average 1-2 megs of service. HSPA/HSPA+ service in some of those areas range from 3-9megs of service. With a cost of $30-80 for sat. service, it's obvious what people would rather use for their internet. If even a 3rd of those 80,000 people started using their phones as primary internet connections, our network would quickly become stressed.
It's becoming more and more obvious to me every day too, that people are wanting to use their phone as a primary internet connection because they can't get land line service or want to save money on a more frequent basis. At least once or twice a day I get a customer coming in and asking us about our mobile internet service because they want to get rid of their land lines to save money, consolidate bills, or can't get land lines at home.
With the rate of how many people are now getting their hands on phones that are capable of tethering, that could very quickly change the work load of the towers on ANY network, be it sprint, at&t, tmo, verizon etc etc.... and it's not going to be for the better.... for now.
I guess the moral of the story is, as a person who still utilizes land line services as his primary source of internet (especially for streaming content/downloading content), I would love to have the cell phone towers I utilize still be able to support my telephone calls, instead of straining to support everybody's netflix addictions. Until the networks are built to support that kind of stuff, I can't say I disapprove of the way things are going on the carriers. Nobody's entitled to anything when it comes to service, and that being said, is what gives freedom of choice when it comes to your carrier choice. Just keep in mind that Sprint is looking more and more likely to follow suit with the tiered/throttled plans... seeing as they've already done it (according to articles, don't know if it's actually implemented) on their hotspot devices. If it's true, and has happened, It's not long till they do it to their smartphones, since every single one is ALSO a hotspot device.
*rant over*
P.S. This post is not meant to directly flame, offend, or belittle anyone for their habits. Everybody is different and has their own opinions, so keep in mind that this is MY opinion and the way I feel. Please keep your responses to it civil, because if they turn childish and mean hearted, i'll make sure the mods know and maybe close it because there's no need for that.