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Sprint better buy clearwire out...not looking good

http://phandroid.com/2011/04/14/analyst-sprint-must-buy-clearwire-or-move-on-without-them/
I agree I've had a 4g device for almost a year now with 4g not even driving distance away...I have to travel about a little over an hour, maybe a little more, to get 4g in the city, they got to do something or have a backup plan...I don't think the kyoceras working...

I though it was Sprint's plan to move on without them? I read an article a couple weeks ago that a bunch of Sprint execs had resigned from Clearwire's board. This was just before they announced (or at least rumors began) of moving to LTE.

Doesn't surprise me that Verizon will have their 4g reaching more customers in 1 year than we have now.. I love Sprint, but, they are behind at&t/verizon for a reason.
I have had an EVO since launch and only used 4g on a brief trip out of town. It now looks like I will be upgrading to another phone without ever really using 4g on my EVO. That's sad.

I guess people thought VZW was lying when they said they'd have their entire 3G network covered with LTE by 2013.

Same here. On a trip to pa I used in pa in a certain spot for about 5 minutes
Batman58 said:
Doesn't surprise me that Verizon will have their 4g reaching more customers in 1 year than we have now.. I love Sprint, but, they are behind at&t/verizon for a reason.
I have had an EVO since launch and only used 4g on a brief trip out of town. It now looks like I will be upgrading to another phone without ever really using 4g on my EVO. That's sad.
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its not that big of a deal
Clear has been having LTE tests in AZ and the wimax equipment as I understand it will be super easy to upgrade to LTE - then sprint releases the LTE devices and BOOM LTE is everywhere that WIMax Was..
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/

sprint always tries to bring new tech first...
but always seem to fail in the follow through.

What spectrum was that phoenix testing done on? 2400mhz??
What speeds does Wimax have when there's only 1 user on it?
That video seems very promising considering how those speeds were faster than my Uverse.

slag02 said:
its not that big of a deal
Clear has been having LTE tests in AZ and the wimax equipment as I understand it will be super easy to upgrade to LTE - then sprint releases the LTE devices and BOOM LTE is everywhere that WIMax Was..
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/
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That's part of the problem - there isn't much coverage and where there is coverage, quite frankly it sucks. I live in Houston and leave 4g off because the coverage is so spotty.

iitreatedii said:
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/14/analyst-sprint-must-buy-clearwire-or-move-on-without-them/
I agree I've had a 4g device for almost a year now with 4g not even driving distance away...I have to travel about a little over an hour, maybe a little more, to get 4g in the city, they got to do something or have a backup plan...I don't think the kyoceras working...
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What's up with you and the kyocera posts?
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Lol idk I just feel they had a good idea but it wasn't the right hardware to put out with it, you see my point, I will definitely give it a chance but my opinion is no as of right now, I'm just gonna have to wait

I would rather have the expanded backend like T-Mobile has, where a normal 3g phone will pull down 5mbps. 21 mbps down is nice but what would I need that bandwidth on a phone. Embedded in a laptop nice, used in the middle of the country where alot of.people don't even have internet access that would be amazing
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After Tmobiles new plan trotting after 2gb of use, I could care less about 4g as long as I'm not throttled. I could eat 2 gigs in a day if there's enough music to download.
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It is almost embarrassing how many people have not gotten to use their 4g on their Evo. I went to San Diego from Phoenix and I still wasn't even able to find any 4g connection. I've really enjoyed the rom experience with the Evo, but I was really looking forward to the 4g stuff.

Luckily bay area has 4g. It is amazing how just a few years ago dsl was screaming fast now my phone can blow it away.

I'll be another upgrading to an evo3d without ever really using 4g on my htc evo......4G!
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I would rather have the expanded backend like T-Mobile has, where a normal 3g phone will pull down 5mbps. 21 mbps down is nice but what would I need that bandwidth on a phone. Embedded in a laptop nice, used in the middle of the country where alot of.people don't even have internet access that would be amazing
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I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/

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I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/
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This is what I used to say about T-Mobile where I live in Utah. I average what your friend is getting on Verizon with Sprint's 3G network here.
Speed test sitting at my desk at work right now (about my average 3G speeds, usually a little higher):
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Further north 4G I can hit up to 6,000-7,000. Not that I ever use it.
EDIT: Interesting that the upload speeds were the same lol

ffolkes said:
I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/
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Sprint in my area is fine. Holds around 1mpbs so not to bad. However Verizon in this area kinda sucks cause there is so many people on it. Two of my friends had to tether to me while tailgating just to get some.bets off
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They are saying they will have 4g in my area by the end of the year ... I will believe it when I see it lol

Something for Award Tour

Seems like God has it's issues too
http://androidandme.com/2011/04/car..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
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But but but ...Verizon is God.
This is what I've been saying, technology isn't perfect.
No amount of money can protect you from problems.

Sprints 4G has not gone down and we have five times the amount of users. 3G works fine in most areas except his borough on NY.
Either way, tech is tech, things happen.
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You know I could explain what went wrong here, but I'm slightly enjoying the I told you so feeling. Also, I'd rather wait to see it reach 2 million LTE subscribers before I mention my reasoning. Having said that, Verizon's LTE strategy is fantastic for the consumers, and their 3G/4G offering is currently better than Sprint's. To say your carrier's 3G works fine everywhere but NYC is laughable and silly. Steps were made to make both 3G/4G more enjoyable for the customers, and your patience will be rewarded.

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Seems like God has it's issues too
http://androidandme.com/2011/04/car..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
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Bwahahaha hmmm I wonder if he gonna show up. I'm sure he will
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You know I could explain what went wrong here, but I'm slightly enjoying the I told you so feeling. Also, I'd rather wait to see it reach 2 million LTE subscribers before I mention my reasoning. Having said that, Verizon's LTE strategy is fantastic for the consumers, and their 3G/4G offering is currently better than Sprint's. To say your carrier's 3G works fine everywhere but NYC is laughable and silly. Steps were made to make both 3G/4G more enjoyable for the customers, and your patience will be rewarded.
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Sprints network works fine except areas being upgraded where towers are being removed and integrated into one, we know this already, so yes it works fine in most areas believe me. The only reason I mentioned NY is because that's his area.
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this will get good !

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Thank god I have the AT&T network to fall back on when it comes to data. I live in NJ and the service has gone to ****s.
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Sprint's network works great, except where it doesn't. Their 4G has never gone down, especially where it hasn't gone up yet.

Well, apparently I don't live in "most areas". Speeds here in Reno, Nevada range from barely tolerable to pathetic. At my house I average about 200 kbs down with a low of 87 kbs to just over 500 kbs. At work, in the middle of town, it averages a little better, around 800 kbs, but is much more erratic with lows around 100 kbs, and very rare highs of around 1600 kbs. Bottom line though, virtually all other carriers are faster than Sprint is here, by a pretty good margin. And it has been that way for about six months now. And then their is the 4g that was promised by the end of the year when I got my phone last June, lets just say I am not holding my breath. I think it would be a pretty good bet that all the other carriers will have 4g here before Sprint does.
That said, I am not necessarily a disgruntled customer. With the exception of Verizon, Sprint has the best coverage here, But Verizon's 4g probably won't get here any sooner than Sprints. ATT's phone call quality sucks, even though their 3g data speeds are at least 2-3 times faster than Sprint on Sprints best day. And Tmobile has the best speed of all, but their coverage totally sucks. So they all have their pros and cons. I'll stick it out for another year, until my current contract runs out. If Sprint doesn't get their act together by then though, I will definitely consider moving on.

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Sprints network works fine except areas being upgraded where towers are being removed and integrated into one, we know this already, so yes it works fine in most areas believe me. The only reason I mentioned NY is because that's his area.
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I've been with Sprint since 1999 and I'm not going anywhere; I'm a stick it through with them until their network gets better. However, I doubt that Sprint has been integrating the new system into the old one for over half a year in my area. In that amount of time, you would assume that at least one tower would be upgraded by now. My 3G service has 1x speeds everywhere I go in Miami.
Maybe it's one of those things where they can't flip the switch until EVERYTHING is upgraded......I don't know. However, anytime my girl sends me a short video of my kid doing something cute, it's a 20+ minute wait to download 5 MBs if I don't have 4G coverage or WiFi. I used to brag about how fast my phone was and now I try to sneak out of any conversation that has to do with data speeds. lol

DirtyShroom is thirsty to make his employer look good. Networks go down, and you act as if any of Sprint's network has never gone down before. Guess what, it has, and it probably will again.
BTW - I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them (EVO/Sprint + ATT/iPhone). What I have said in the past is that:
A) Sprint's EVDO network in NYC is pathetic right now, and most signs point to overcapacity.
B) Verizon's LTE is both faster and more usable because of it's frequency.
So it seems as if Verizon's LTE network is currently down, doesn't effect me, and by the end of the day, it probably won't effect anybody.

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DirtyShroom is thirsty to make his employer look good. Networks go down, and you act as if any of Sprint's network has never gone down before. Guess what, it has, and it probably will again.
BTW - I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them (EVO/Sprint + ATT/iPhone). What I have said in the past is that:
A) Sprint's EVDO network in NYC is pathetic right now, and most signs point to overcapacity.
B) Verizon's LTE is both faster and more usable because of it's frequency.
So it seems as if Verizon's LTE network is currently down, doesn't effect me, and by the end of the day, it probably won't effect anybody.
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So now you lie? You clearly stated you moved one of your two lines to Verizon. I'm just showing you that even Verizon has issues. This is clearly affecting all 500k users.
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Award Tour said:
I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them
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You should

DirtyShroomz said:
So now you lie? You clearly stated you moved one of your two lines to Verizon. I'm just showing you that even Verizon has issues. This is clearly affecting all 500k users.
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Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.

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Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
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Wow... So you never said you moved one line and were waiting until the Nexus to see if the network is fixed by then? Must have been another Award Tour or I could be completely wrong. Not searching on my phone for the post though.
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I distinctly remember this being said as well.
Let's own up to what we say.

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Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
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I even remember you saying you moved a line to Verizon lol. People dont forget man!
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I distinctly remember this being said as well.
Let's own up to what we say.
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Agreed I remember that as well

LTE Speeds on AT&T

Check out these speeds on AT&T's LTE. What does Verizon have on that?
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I'm an AT&T customer and I will even say Verizon been had that beat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5AGEj7ftK4&feature=related

Good god that 4G LTE logo is ugly.
edit:for the record, I don't like verizon's either.

Come on. You mean to tell me that the Verizon "Data Card" bownloading at 50Mbps beats a phone downloading at 40Mbps. Look at the upload. Nowhere even close. NYC has DAS units all over. I'm not on NYC and you can't argue the upload. I can find a spot to show 50 if you want but I just did a random test and got these results. Just thought I'd share. Again. This is on a phone. Not a dedicated data card.
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I'm an AT&T customer and I will even say Verizon been had that beat.
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Regardless of which is better or not, I'm glad at&t is finally rolling out LTE.
I don't expect you to be able to answer these questions, but is the device you're using coming out before the end of the year and do you know if at&t plans to offer unlimited LTE data for a short period like verizon did?

Question - why does anyone give a crap? What good is that 40 Mbps doing you. Nothing on the phone will ever make use of that. Even if you are tethering to a computer it isn't nearly as useful as those speeds would be on a home broadband connection due to the data caps. At 40 Mbps you would go through a full month's 4 GB tethering package data allotment in about 13 minutes! What a joke.

considering this is on a fairly loaded network that is running in well over 5 cities I'd say its pretty good :-D

Question - HOW DID YOU GET AN LTE PHONE ON AT&T?
Also, nice speeds, obviously Verizon's LTE is going to get much better speeds when they've had time to get enough backhaul to all the LTE towers, just give AT&T some time, just like the time Verizon has had.

wow
amazing speeds you get there, I don't even get close

Great question. We all would like to know that one
Longcat14 said:
Question - HOW DID YOU GET AN LTE PHONE ON AT&T?
Also, nice speeds, obviously Verizon's LTE is going to get much better speeds when they've had time to get enough backhaul to all the LTE towers, just give AT&T some time, just like the time Verizon has had.
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I can't tell you how I got the phone but rest assured they are coming. Once the backhaul gets updated across the board everyone will see better speeds even with the 4G (HSPA+) devices. I'm not 100% sure how the data plans are going to work but I'm sure they will be capped higher than 2Gb. They will have to be capped somewhere or else everyone will use bandwidth all the time taking it away from other users.
That's all I know for now.
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I can't tell you how I got the phone but rest assured they are coming. Once the backhaul gets updated across the board everyone will see better speeds even with the 4G (HSPA+) devices. I'm not 100% sure how the data plans are going to work but I'm sure they will be capped higher than 2Gb. They will have to be capped somewhere or else everyone will use bandwidth all the time taking it away from other users.
That's all I know for now.
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Alright, that's fine that you can't tell us, don't mind.
But just tell me, are we going to see LTE phones anytime soon, and if AT&T wants to speed up HSPA+ devices, they need to turn on 64QAM.
^relay that one to them for me.

VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
But thing is all I see is a much faster way to get to the 2gb cap.
Verizon 4g is 2gb right?

donsh00tmesanta said:
VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
But thing is all I see is a much faster way to get to the 2gb cap.
Verizon 4g is 2gb right?
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Lowest for Verizon is 2GB.
But the guy said they would raise the caps... I have unlimited data, so I hope I get that on LTE also...

Need I say more Mr Verizon sees 50 Mbps?
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Check out these speeds on AT&T's LTE. What does Verizon have on that?
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Holy crap, is that for real?
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donsh00tmesanta said:
VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
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Agreed.
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I'm not saying that you will see a drop in speeds once everyone jumps on the bandwagon but what would you ever need speeds like that for anyway? Streaming movies? Hah. Maybe if your downloading one and don't want to wait or don't have wifi at home. Anyway, there are just a lot of new and exciting things happening with the AT&T network and the difference will or should already be seen by most of you now or in the near future.
Not only the network but the devices are getting better and better IMO (really unbiassed) I think AT&T has the better devices hands down.
For all those who asked. I can not say how I have an LTE device but they are sure to impress everyone once released.
Till next time.
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I'm not saying that you will see a drop in speeds once everyone jumps on the bandwagon but what would you ever need speeds like that for anyway? Streaming movies? Hah. Maybe if your downloading one and don't want to wait or don't have wifi at home. Anyway, there are just a lot of new and exciting things happening with the AT&T network and the difference will or should already be seen by most of you now or in the near future.
Not only the network but the devices are getting better and better IMO (really unbiassed) I think AT&T has the better devices hands down.
For all those who asked. I can not say how I have an LTE device but they are sure to impress everyone once released.
Till next time.
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Of course speeds will go down with traffic, we just don't know how much.
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SGH-i727 Galaxy Nexus II LTE? Wish the At&t/Tmo merger goes through and we get the Galaxy Nexus LTE version. I have two upgrades and want something new for Christmas. LOL.

Throtting

So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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No, they don't throttle.
myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use.
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HAHA welcome to the "Now Network". Sprint=dial-up speeds. Myself, or my 3 friends on Sprint, haven't gotten above 100kbps since last October. It happens everywhere I travel too. Well, except between 2am and 4am, then it works perfectly fine, when everyone else is asleep.

It seems to me like they do during the day. My 3g is not near as fast as it used to be during the day. It wasnt a gradual decrease. More like a sudden. While my connection at my house still pulls 1.0-1.3mbps at my house during the day, I used to get 2+mbps there during the day. Now I don't get that speed til 1-5am. You're probably thinking "wtf are you *****ing about?!" Cuz it is very fast at my house. ****ty part is that everywhere else its nowhere near 1.0mbps. More like 0.2-0.4. And I'm NEVER home. That's the problem. Oh well. Its either live with it or go pay $40-50 more to get raped by verizon.
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Mine used to be around 3Mb/s on 3g, that was when I first got my contract. It seems the more I tethered and used more and more data the slower it got. yestursay I got .25 mb/s! Flashed radios this morning and i'm up to 1.
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It seems to me like they do during the day.
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No, they don't throttle during the day, they dont throttle at all. The reason your speeds are crappy during the day is because there are too many people using it during the day, and each tower's crappy T1 line backhaul can't handle more than a few MB/s total for everyone connected to it.

Darn you other sprint users i'm my area, turn your 3g off!
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One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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Please don't talk about things you know nothing of. Verizon has MVNOs just as Sprint does.

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DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
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No it is just naturally slow. I guess you could say it comes "pre-throttled"
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Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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Paid hotspots are now limited to 5gb data per month did ya not get the notice? After 5gb hotspot ur either throttled or paying per mb FYI
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I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Deathsnuggle said:
So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.

tmwilsoniv said:
The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.
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Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense now, how I get throttled living in a city of 600k, but someone out in a rural area remains untouched. It's all good tho, just discovered a new open wifi here in the neighborhood... lol
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I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Ha! I had one of those Nokias, but my first real cell phone was an Oki 910. Before that it was a Motorola bag phone, still have that old beast in storage some where.. Just bought some new boots, the box would fit in the "bag" lol
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T-Mobile data issues in NE Florida?

Is anyone else in NE Florida, Jacksonville area having problems getting a reliable data connection on T-Mobile's network? I want to be able to say it's not just me if I call them.
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JaylanPHNX said:
Is anyone else in NE Florida, Jacksonville area having problems getting a reliable data connection on T-Mobile's network? I want to be able to say it's not just me if I call them.
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I'm on Fleming Island and the best I can get is Edge, and it's inconsistant. I really wanted this $30 plan to work for me, but I have my doubts now. What good is unlimited data if you can't access it? I also have a Straight Talk (AT&T) sim, which does much better but costs $20 more per month. I'm going to talk to the folks at the T-Mo store and see what they have to say.

I can't say anythign about where you are at, sorry.
I have the $30 dollar plan too. And I am pretty new with it. I traveled to Iowa this last weekend... I had no data at all pretty much all weekend.
T-Mobile's coverage is just not good, once outside any lager metro areas. Back in Charlotte (where I live now) the data speeds are usually very good. But even in Charlotte proper there are spots that are dead. I was used to Verizon before this and I knew coverage wasn't going to be the same on T-Mobile. But for now, I am still happy with saving over a 1000 dollars per year over Verizon between me and my wife.
It's a good deal... but the coverage is not like Verzion or even ATT... that is for sure.

JaylanPHNX said:
Is anyone else in NE Florida, Jacksonville area having problems getting a reliable data connection on T-Mobile's network? I want to be able to say it's not just me if I call them.
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Yep, I've been having problems in Tampa. Even though the signal is fine, the data connection seems to drop out. Can't figure out if it's T-Mobile or my phone.

Im in sw florida right between Sarasota and Fort Myers and my data has been intermittent the last 2 days saying its connected but no data goes though then it will work fine. And ive been on edge alot, only had tmo for 3 days but when i was with them 2+ years ago i was definitely getting better reception than what ive seen so far.

Hmm, seems like maybe a Florida issue then. I've got the same thing, good signal (2-4 bars) but poor/inconsistent data. Streaming from Tune In Radio has been an exercise in frustration this week, when prior it was fine. I wonder if they're just doing network improvement/overhaul, or if something's wrong. I'm on Straight Talk and I'm seriously considering an AT&T SIM.
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I dont think straight talk sells att sims anymore. Not on their website at least.

They still do, they're just out of supplies. At least that's the last thing I read about that.
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When I am at my Mom's house in Edgewater, east coast just south of Daytona and the data is terrible. Most of the time its edge network. I've noticed pretty much anything coastal is hit or miss with Tmobile. I can be driving my boat down the Intercoastal waterway and get hspa+ for a mile then nothing but edge the rest of the way.

I'm in Orange Park and get great service. Coming from Verizon it is just as fast, if not faster. I rarely have an issue with signal either.
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Im thinking that tmo must be doing something with their network because tonight ive been switching between 3g and H+ over and over. I live like right next to the tower too so I always have full service where I live.

Last week I could stream internet radio with no trouble at all, but this week I can't go more than five minutes. My wife, in a different area of Jax, is having the same issues.
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ticklemegavin said:
Im thinking that tmo must be doing something with their network because tonight ive been switching between 3g and H+ over and over. I live like right next to the tower too so I always have full service where I live.
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T-Mobile is doing a ton of stuff with the network I know this because I work for them. Also, this phone only says H+
when its actually using data so you may just be seeing that... We are installing LTE towers in big cities right now too.
We just put one on top of our building a couple days ago...

Good to know i just came from Verizon and im used to the phone just staying on 4g instead of connecting on demand. You know if there will be any LTE in the near future in sw florida?

ZeroG1 said:
Yep, I've been having problems in Tampa. Even though the signal is fine, the data connection seems to drop out. Can't figure out if it's T-Mobile or my phone.
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Happening to me too. I'm in Hernando County.

ticklemegavin said:
Good to know i just came from Verizon and im used to the phone just staying on 4g instead of connecting on demand. You know if there will be any LTE in the near future in sw florida?
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Honestly I don't know, but do expect a nationwide rollout of T Mobile LTE starting sometime this year

Amazing...I'm next door to you in Fleming Island and its horrible. Rarely get data outside of WiFi. Hope it improves as I love the $30 plan...if it'd just work
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I doubt things are going to get better in places like Fleming Island. T-Mobile has seemingly never been very interested in expanding its network, merely improving what's already there in core markets.
As for my issue of a sudden dip in reliability, my data connection seems to have gone back to normal these last couple days, which supports the theory that they were working on maintenance or overhaul.
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I'm in Jacksonville and I get pretty good data. Sometimes it does drop to 2-5mbps in spotty areas. But I'm generally between 12-20mbps. This blows away my old service and i couldn't be happier.
Edit: here's a few tests done in a few different areas.
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Ashwind said:
I'm in Jacksonville and I get pretty good data. Sometimes it does drop to 2-5mbps in spotty areas. But I'm generally between 12-20mbps. This blows away my old service and i couldn't be happier.
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Lucky!
I get the 2-5 in my house like... always. I usually have to go to a somewhat busier area to get at least like 16 and up. Usually at intersections like Beach and Hodges, Atlantic and Kernan... or maybe even the St. John's Town Center. If you're familiar with those. :silly:
I've always had crappy service IN my house though.
JaylanPHNX, you still having issues?