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New PRL. Update for EVO. 60676

Just update the new PRL, now let's test the 3G data out. Fellow EVO owners, let's see if the new PRL helps your 3G data speed.
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This has been posted already....

What happens if I update my prl???
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Didn't know that this was posted. 1604 up and 719 down just south of Nashville. Nice.
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Stevo760 hopefully that this new PRL helps your data speed.
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damn 1600? lucky bastard. anyone else confirm this? im on cm with verizon prl and i would hate to go back to sense right now to try it out

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damn 1600? lucky bastard. anyone else confirm this? im on cm with verizon prl and i would hate to go back to sense right now to try it out
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No, this PRL, like others have done nothing to help my 3g speed.....my 4g speed is the same at around 8Mb/s.

1761 up 861 down n.e. ohio

Here's another 3G test read. This one is from Atlanta. 1202 up 689 down. I'm an owner operator in the trucking business, so I test out my data as I travel the country. My 3G data started to suck like many others, for me, it started in January. 19 to 400 kbs up and or down. I bought my EVO the first day it went on sale. Never had a problem with the data speed until I went over 5 gigs of usage back in January, in which that I used around 9 plus gigs. I'm on the unlimited everything plan. This is just my opinion, I believe that Sprint is putting us on the throttle. Getting 2.4 megs up and 800 kbs down on 3G was not uncommon for me to achieve in many locations around the USA, especially in the north east. Not any more.
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Here's another 3G test read. This one is from Atlanta. 1202 up 689 down. I'm an owner operator in the trucking business, so I test out my data as I travel the country. My 3G data started to suck like many others around January. I bought my EVO the first day it went on sale. Never had a problem with the data speed until I went over 5 gigs of usage back in January, in which that I used around 9 plus gigs. I'm on the unlimited everything plan. This is just my opinion, I believe that Sprint is putting us on the throttle. Getting 2.4 megs up and 800 kbs down on 3G was not uncommon for me to achieve in many locations around the USA, especially in the north east. Not any more.
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Don't think they are throttling us because its to big of an outage.. for everyone sake let's hope they are about to announce a update to their network!
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Just got off the phone with (a very pleasant) Sprint rep re: slow 3G data.
There is -- as has been reported by others -- some wide-ranging, nationwide 3G issue, compounded by tower issues in many locations.
As I was told, in my area, there's been a tower issue since mid-February, which complicates at least a partial outage in the eastern half of the country.
Maybe Sprint is making updates/changes to their net but in the process, hosing 3G cover?

Sudden widespread "tower issues"... sounds like a convenient excuse for one of two things.
1) Throttling (there is already another debate thread on this).
2) Their network is maxed out and the influx of smartphones has killed it.
I just find it funny they are so quick to blame the "towers" instead of just being honest. I mean really is having technical issues to your hardware much better than the real reason(s)?

I agree. I think something is going on. Plus why would Sprint feel the need to hide the fact that they are throttling 3G data unless they know they are wrong for doing it? Afterall we are all paying $10 extra per month for premium unlimited data... WHICH WE ARE NOT GETTING!!!

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207 kbps down
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any good? I don't think so

When one of the tech guys called me on Monday about my slow 3G speeds, I asked him if there was some sort of outage or nationwide 3G issues. He quickly and bluntly said NO.

Ive been having issues since nov and have been constantly complaining to get nothing but tower excuses to your phone is messed up. All bs. I told them either a. You have to many tower issues or b. U take to long to fix them.

1972 download and 495 upload in southern colorado. Before I was lucky to get 150 down and 75 up.
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I did the update last wek week but speeds are the same
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scsapril69 said:
Here's another 3G test read. This one is from Atlanta. 1202 up 689 down. I'm an owner operator in the trucking business, so I test out my data as I travel the country. My 3G data started to suck like many others, for me, it started in January. 19 to 400 kbs up and or down. I bought my EVO the first day it went on sale. Never had a problem with the data speed until I went over 5 gigs of usage back in January, in which that I used around 9 plus gigs. I'm on the unlimited everything plan. This is just my opinion, I believe that Sprint is putting us on the throttle. Getting 2.4 megs up and 800 kbs down on 3G was not uncommon for me to achieve in many locations around the USA, especially in the north east. Not any more.
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Same problem here to man I know for a fact im throttled down same phone plan i hit 5 gigs and down she went.

can anyone upload 60675?! my battery is going down way fast with this PRL

Sprint better buy clearwire out...not looking good

http://phandroid.com/2011/04/14/analyst-sprint-must-buy-clearwire-or-move-on-without-them/
I agree I've had a 4g device for almost a year now with 4g not even driving distance away...I have to travel about a little over an hour, maybe a little more, to get 4g in the city, they got to do something or have a backup plan...I don't think the kyoceras working...

I though it was Sprint's plan to move on without them? I read an article a couple weeks ago that a bunch of Sprint execs had resigned from Clearwire's board. This was just before they announced (or at least rumors began) of moving to LTE.

Doesn't surprise me that Verizon will have their 4g reaching more customers in 1 year than we have now.. I love Sprint, but, they are behind at&t/verizon for a reason.
I have had an EVO since launch and only used 4g on a brief trip out of town. It now looks like I will be upgrading to another phone without ever really using 4g on my EVO. That's sad.

I guess people thought VZW was lying when they said they'd have their entire 3G network covered with LTE by 2013.

Same here. On a trip to pa I used in pa in a certain spot for about 5 minutes
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Doesn't surprise me that Verizon will have their 4g reaching more customers in 1 year than we have now.. I love Sprint, but, they are behind at&t/verizon for a reason.
I have had an EVO since launch and only used 4g on a brief trip out of town. It now looks like I will be upgrading to another phone without ever really using 4g on my EVO. That's sad.
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its not that big of a deal
Clear has been having LTE tests in AZ and the wimax equipment as I understand it will be super easy to upgrade to LTE - then sprint releases the LTE devices and BOOM LTE is everywhere that WIMax Was..
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/

sprint always tries to bring new tech first...
but always seem to fail in the follow through.

What spectrum was that phoenix testing done on? 2400mhz??
What speeds does Wimax have when there's only 1 user on it?
That video seems very promising considering how those speeds were faster than my Uverse.

slag02 said:
its not that big of a deal
Clear has been having LTE tests in AZ and the wimax equipment as I understand it will be super easy to upgrade to LTE - then sprint releases the LTE devices and BOOM LTE is everywhere that WIMax Was..
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/
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That's part of the problem - there isn't much coverage and where there is coverage, quite frankly it sucks. I live in Houston and leave 4g off because the coverage is so spotty.

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http://phandroid.com/2011/04/14/analyst-sprint-must-buy-clearwire-or-move-on-without-them/
I agree I've had a 4g device for almost a year now with 4g not even driving distance away...I have to travel about a little over an hour, maybe a little more, to get 4g in the city, they got to do something or have a backup plan...I don't think the kyoceras working...
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What's up with you and the kyocera posts?
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Lol idk I just feel they had a good idea but it wasn't the right hardware to put out with it, you see my point, I will definitely give it a chance but my opinion is no as of right now, I'm just gonna have to wait

I would rather have the expanded backend like T-Mobile has, where a normal 3g phone will pull down 5mbps. 21 mbps down is nice but what would I need that bandwidth on a phone. Embedded in a laptop nice, used in the middle of the country where alot of.people don't even have internet access that would be amazing
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After Tmobiles new plan trotting after 2gb of use, I could care less about 4g as long as I'm not throttled. I could eat 2 gigs in a day if there's enough music to download.
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It is almost embarrassing how many people have not gotten to use their 4g on their Evo. I went to San Diego from Phoenix and I still wasn't even able to find any 4g connection. I've really enjoyed the rom experience with the Evo, but I was really looking forward to the 4g stuff.

Luckily bay area has 4g. It is amazing how just a few years ago dsl was screaming fast now my phone can blow it away.

I'll be another upgrading to an evo3d without ever really using 4g on my htc evo......4G!
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BrianDigital said:
I would rather have the expanded backend like T-Mobile has, where a normal 3g phone will pull down 5mbps. 21 mbps down is nice but what would I need that bandwidth on a phone. Embedded in a laptop nice, used in the middle of the country where alot of.people don't even have internet access that would be amazing
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I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/

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I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/
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This is what I used to say about T-Mobile where I live in Utah. I average what your friend is getting on Verizon with Sprint's 3G network here.
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And with a really weak 4G signal:
Further north 4G I can hit up to 6,000-7,000. Not that I ever use it.
EDIT: Interesting that the upload speeds were the same lol

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I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/
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Sprint in my area is fine. Holds around 1mpbs so not to bad. However Verizon in this area kinda sucks cause there is so many people on it. Two of my friends had to tether to me while tailgating just to get some.bets off
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They are saying they will have 4g in my area by the end of the year ... I will believe it when I see it lol

LTE Speeds on AT&T

Check out these speeds on AT&T's LTE. What does Verizon have on that?
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I'm an AT&T customer and I will even say Verizon been had that beat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5AGEj7ftK4&feature=related

Good god that 4G LTE logo is ugly.
edit:for the record, I don't like verizon's either.

Come on. You mean to tell me that the Verizon "Data Card" bownloading at 50Mbps beats a phone downloading at 40Mbps. Look at the upload. Nowhere even close. NYC has DAS units all over. I'm not on NYC and you can't argue the upload. I can find a spot to show 50 if you want but I just did a random test and got these results. Just thought I'd share. Again. This is on a phone. Not a dedicated data card.
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I'm an AT&T customer and I will even say Verizon been had that beat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5AGEj7ftK4&feature=related
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Regardless of which is better or not, I'm glad at&t is finally rolling out LTE.
I don't expect you to be able to answer these questions, but is the device you're using coming out before the end of the year and do you know if at&t plans to offer unlimited LTE data for a short period like verizon did?

Question - why does anyone give a crap? What good is that 40 Mbps doing you. Nothing on the phone will ever make use of that. Even if you are tethering to a computer it isn't nearly as useful as those speeds would be on a home broadband connection due to the data caps. At 40 Mbps you would go through a full month's 4 GB tethering package data allotment in about 13 minutes! What a joke.

considering this is on a fairly loaded network that is running in well over 5 cities I'd say its pretty good :-D

Question - HOW DID YOU GET AN LTE PHONE ON AT&T?
Also, nice speeds, obviously Verizon's LTE is going to get much better speeds when they've had time to get enough backhaul to all the LTE towers, just give AT&T some time, just like the time Verizon has had.

wow
amazing speeds you get there, I don't even get close

Great question. We all would like to know that one
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Question - HOW DID YOU GET AN LTE PHONE ON AT&T?
Also, nice speeds, obviously Verizon's LTE is going to get much better speeds when they've had time to get enough backhaul to all the LTE towers, just give AT&T some time, just like the time Verizon has had.
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I can't tell you how I got the phone but rest assured they are coming. Once the backhaul gets updated across the board everyone will see better speeds even with the 4G (HSPA+) devices. I'm not 100% sure how the data plans are going to work but I'm sure they will be capped higher than 2Gb. They will have to be capped somewhere or else everyone will use bandwidth all the time taking it away from other users.
That's all I know for now.
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I can't tell you how I got the phone but rest assured they are coming. Once the backhaul gets updated across the board everyone will see better speeds even with the 4G (HSPA+) devices. I'm not 100% sure how the data plans are going to work but I'm sure they will be capped higher than 2Gb. They will have to be capped somewhere or else everyone will use bandwidth all the time taking it away from other users.
That's all I know for now.
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Alright, that's fine that you can't tell us, don't mind.
But just tell me, are we going to see LTE phones anytime soon, and if AT&T wants to speed up HSPA+ devices, they need to turn on 64QAM.
^relay that one to them for me.

VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
But thing is all I see is a much faster way to get to the 2gb cap.
Verizon 4g is 2gb right?

donsh00tmesanta said:
VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
But thing is all I see is a much faster way to get to the 2gb cap.
Verizon 4g is 2gb right?
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Lowest for Verizon is 2GB.
But the guy said they would raise the caps... I have unlimited data, so I hope I get that on LTE also...

Need I say more Mr Verizon sees 50 Mbps?
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Check out these speeds on AT&T's LTE. What does Verizon have on that?
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Holy crap, is that for real?
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VERY impressive but like verizon and sprint 4g once there's a lot of people on it the speeds drop.
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Agreed.
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I'm not saying that you will see a drop in speeds once everyone jumps on the bandwagon but what would you ever need speeds like that for anyway? Streaming movies? Hah. Maybe if your downloading one and don't want to wait or don't have wifi at home. Anyway, there are just a lot of new and exciting things happening with the AT&T network and the difference will or should already be seen by most of you now or in the near future.
Not only the network but the devices are getting better and better IMO (really unbiassed) I think AT&T has the better devices hands down.
For all those who asked. I can not say how I have an LTE device but they are sure to impress everyone once released.
Till next time.
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I'm not saying that you will see a drop in speeds once everyone jumps on the bandwagon but what would you ever need speeds like that for anyway? Streaming movies? Hah. Maybe if your downloading one and don't want to wait or don't have wifi at home. Anyway, there are just a lot of new and exciting things happening with the AT&T network and the difference will or should already be seen by most of you now or in the near future.
Not only the network but the devices are getting better and better IMO (really unbiassed) I think AT&T has the better devices hands down.
For all those who asked. I can not say how I have an LTE device but they are sure to impress everyone once released.
Till next time.
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Of course speeds will go down with traffic, we just don't know how much.
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SGH-i727 Galaxy Nexus II LTE? Wish the At&t/Tmo merger goes through and we get the Galaxy Nexus LTE version. I have two upgrades and want something new for Christmas. LOL.

I got signal!!!!!

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Pretty big difference between Sprint and WiFi, which is useless when I still cannot make or receive calls... Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.

Ouch man, where do you live? Oh are you strictly speaking 3G? I average 1200 to 1400kbps on 3G
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That's not good. On the UK on my sensation (o2) I got 2mb down and 1 up
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brilldoctor said:
That's not good. On the UK on my sensation (o2) I got 2mb down and 1 up
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3g isn't impressive at all but I am happy with my 4g speed considering its unlimited . 1.2 to 1.4Mbps download isn't great but I never use 3g anyway
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my sprint 3g looks like your wifi. usually around 2mbs. i heart sprint. i think ill go make a thread about it.

austin420 said:
my sprint 3g looks like your wifi. usually around 2mbs. i heart sprint. i think ill go make a thread about it.
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I am really satisfied with Sprint myself. If only the younger users know what using a cell phone used to be like...
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JohnCorleone said:
I am really satisfied with Sprint myself. If only the younger users know what using a cell phone used to be like...
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Can you hear me now?
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We were supposed to have 4g a year ago and don't and won't ever have it. Its the iPhone users causing the data issues and Sprints poor decision to carry it on this old network. Im guessing people with good 3g service don't have many iPhone users in their area.
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. Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.
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If you read the stories, people are complaining that the iPhone is getting much slower data than other Sprint phones in side by side comparisons, same time same location.
Seriously, I hate iPhones as much as you do, but why are you blaming them for your crappy service? They don't use any more data than high end android phones. Sounds like the tower in your area has an issue. Maybe they are doing maintenance.
I just ran a speedtest at my house, which has always been a low signal area. (side of a hill, shadowed from the tower). Today I'm getting 2 bars (never seen more than 3 here, usually get 1 or zero.) and in 3 tests I got a low of 226 kbps and a high of 320 kbsp on 3G. Pretty normal for the location. Trust me, the iPhone is everywhere in this neighborhood.

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If you read the stories, people are complaining that the iPhone is getting much slower data than other Sprint phones in side by side comparisons, same time same location.
Seriously, I hate iPhones as much as you do, but why are you blaming them for your crappy service? They don't use any more data than high end android phones. Sounds like the tower in your area has an issue. Maybe they are doing maintenance.
I just ran a speedtest at my house, which has always been a low signal area. (side of a hill, shadowed from the tower). Today I'm getting 2 bars (never seen more than 3 here, usually get 1 or zero.) and in 3 tests I got a low of 226 kbps and a high of 320 kbsp on 3G. Pretty normal for the location. Trust me, the iPhone is everywhere in this neighborhood.
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I doubt they're doing maintenance. We're usually the last city for anything with Sprint, and this bad service started for me also right after the iPhone launch, it could be anything, but it coincides with that.
And what sucks is the week of the iPhone launch I was able to download the cm7 ROM in less then 30 minutes, now I'm lucky to get 1 bar of signal if I hold the phone just right.
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My signal has been wavering in the last few weeks. I go back-and-forth between 4 bars to none. I live in a metropolitan area that too was promised 4G over a year ago by sales representatives in-store. (Yea... no need to comment on that. I already know the responses, ha ha.)
If you are unhappy, you have three options:
Leave Sprint for another carrier.
Call Sprint and complain. You may be able to get some type of monetary and/or technical assistance for the issues.
Do nothing and enjoy the wonders of Sprint's "marvelous" network.
The last option is my tactic for now, as I want to give Sprint the opportunity to fix their coverage in my area. Though my patience is wearing thin.

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....just long enough for this test.
Pretty big difference between Sprint and WiFi, which is useless when I still cannot make or receive calls... Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.
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I too get between 1.0 to 1.4 Mps with my 3g speeds.
You need to talk to sprint about getting air rave or change your prl to verizon or something. Those speeds are just sorry.

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Ouch man, where do you live? Oh are you strictly speaking 3G? I average 1200 to 1400kbps on 3G
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Shut up man You're killing me with your "super" 3G speeds..
I just posted on twitter yesterday about this. I'm getting .25-200kbps down and 24kbps up. :-(
It's been like this for months. I got the next 4 months free though, so I can't really complain. They are currently upgrading capacity in my area. I can't take this much longer.
Nice to see you

My 3g is fast and signal is always good where I live.. switch carriors if your area doesn't have good services .....
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ptfdmedic said:
I got the next 4 months free though, so I can't really complain.
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Sounds like you're getting what you're paying for!
In all seriousness, pathetic speeds, but their customer service at least seems good. I can't complain around here... Just pulled 1057/370 on 3G.

I just pulled 653kb down and 459kb up. Not as bad as some (Rob) but still pretty pathetic.
@John: Between your super 3G speeds and the battery life shots Zigg & Paul keep sending me from their Nexus S's, I'm a sad panda here.

Has anyone else had problems with 4g connecting todayin the baltimore area?

At my work location in Long Island, I get the same speeds with Sprint 3G as I get on Verizon 1x (RoamControl) = pathetic. It is indoors but close to a window. 2 bars with Sprint, 5 with VZW. Once Prime is released, methinks it's goodbye Sprint, hello VZW data caps

Hang in there. I can honestly say I was in your boat for months here. They finally rolled out extra capacity in my city last Thursday. I'm getting 1.5 MBits/sec at last.
Before that, I was getting 50kbps down, or sometimes it would timeout.
But you should call in and file a complaint. I'd imagine problems tend to get fixed faster on the technicians queues with more complaints.

That network speed test that your using will get you mixed results. Change your closest tower in the setting and try again. I was getting the same results whe I picked my hometown kalamazoo, mi. But when I picked chicago. My speed went up. I notice this while doing a speed test on my home computer. Then when I had my wifi on my phone I was getting a third of the speeed I should of.
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I'm thinking of dropping AT&T for T-mobile how is LTE coverage in L.I./NYC?

I'm thinking of dropping att for t-mobile. Any one in long island/NYC think this is a good choice? How is your LTE coverage and overall experience in New York?
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You could check the coverage maps online
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I did and according to them everything is excellent of course. I'm looking for some real world experience and advice from anyone who has switched. I may try it for a month and see. I just have 10 days or so before I can terminate my contract or else I'm stuck for 2 years.
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I did and according to them everything is excellent of course. I'm looking for some real world experience and advice from anyone who has switched. I may try it for a month and see. I just have 10 days or so before I can terminate my contract or else I'm stuck for 2 years.
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From what I hear (and have witnessed) T-Mobile is very good in many cases better than AT&T/Verizon in major cities due to site density (spacing between towers). However, outside major cities and a lot of highways between them is only 2G (Edge) or no connection at all. If you're going postpaid - AT&T does have some roaming agreements with T-Mobile that the online maps will show coverage for.

I'm with T-Mobile in Palm Beach Florida and were moving to Manhattan in two weeks, I've been enjoying 30mps LTE here no matter where I travel in the 3 counties around. I would imagine NYC and its boroughs being the epicenter of all phone releases as well as a testing and proving ground for all tech would be the best place to get premier coverage, anyway I hope that's the case. I'm only concerned about the city myself and I've been told that not only should I get the same results but they are upgrading their LTE in several cities, NY being one of them and the speeds will be bumped up to over 60mps down and over 15mps up.
I was previously with Sprint and I couldn't even get a data connection with them half the time, luckily I had great speeds in my house but just a mile away nada and that was the case all over, talking here in Palm Beach now.
One thing T-mobile told me was to keep data roaming on, this had nothing to do with spotty coverage, they were trouble shooting my daughter's iPhone 5 with me that they ended up replacing but she said there are no roaming fees and to keep roaming on for data and voice. Also no throttling on your unlimited data on the higher plan, its 10 dollars more. I get like 4.5 gigs for tethering with it but I do way more than that and I didn't want it throttled, I use a little trick so my tethering appears to be regular data usage to them. Sprint never said anything either about my astronomical data usage, I wouldn't know about the others. I probably use close to 2 hundred gigs a month tethering not counting not tethered.
This screenshot is one day of tethering usage.
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Damn. What are you doing with all that data? Downloading the Pentagon database? Lol
I wonder if they would let me test drive with a SIM for a week. I am mostly in long island but travel to the city often. I have 1 friend who had t-mobile but he didn't even know how to open his browser so.....he just said it worked ok so Idk. Everyone here is on att or Verizon so that might be a clue.
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Damn. What are you doing with all that data? Downloading the Pentagon database? Lol
I wonder if they would let me test drive with a SIM for a week. I am mostly in long island but travel to the city often. I have 1 friend who had t-mobile but he didn't even know how to open his browser so.....he just said it worked ok so Idk. Everyone here is on att or Verizon so that might be a clue.
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There are no contracts with Tmo so you can easily try it out. You would need an AWS compatible phone to try their network. What is the return period in NY for phones? CA has a 30 day return period, you should be able to test it at least a week and return the phone if it doesn't work.
I have a friend in Manhattan who has not tried T-Mobile even though I've tried to get him to. He ditched AT&T for Verizon and found it to be just as bad as AT&T in the city. Too many people he says, so LTE speeds can be pretty bad. He's going back to AT&T because they are cheaper and at least when there's no LTE he can fall back on HSPA vs EVDO.
When I was in NYC in May, I had my Nexus 4 with me and I don't remember having any issues at all. At JFK I know my BF's AT&T iPhone had unusable data, so I turned my hotspot on for him to use. I don't remember how much LTE I saw, but back in May, NYC was not an official LTE market.
You will probably find that T-Mobile also has issues, they all have a limited amount of spectrum, but at least with T-Mobile you won't be paying as much, and when you have good data you can use as much as you want.
Between San Diego and LA, I get some odd Edge only spots but most of the time I have at least HSPA+ which is usually very good, and LTE is being turned on everywhere and I can usually get 30 mbps down and 10 mbps up. Works great for me, and I use between 10-15 GB per month with no tethering.

Spent a week in LIC, traveled to Brooklyn, West Side, SoHo (LTE was in and out here), Manhattan all with no problems, had full LTE everywhere... no dropped calls or anything. Dull note, my Nexus 4 had modded radios for LTE.

I'm in port Jeff/Setauket, I gotta go like past hauppague to get LTE
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You can try tmo for14 days and still get a refund
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I've talked to a couple of people out here and they weren't too happy with the coverage and they ended up switching back to v and att. I think I will take your advice and try it for a week and see. I have till the 12th to figure it out.
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