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A little Elf bait

Not sure if this is the right forum, but I was wondering if anyone had seen LegolasTheElf. Trying to sort something out and I have not gotten a repsonse to my PM. He is usually prompt.

He got mad and left right after he got banned. Post your problem, I'm sure someone can help.

I think he's hanging out over at HTC-Devs.com
I've seen a few posts from him over there

Thanks Timtown.

I know where the fool is...
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1163865&page=1&pp=15
LegolasTheElf
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XDA castoff looking for new home!
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I'm one of the senior guys from XDA -- look for any posts by LegolasTheElf on XDA and you'll see what I mean
Anyways, I'm one of the experts on the HTC TyTn/Hermes/8525. I thought I'd introduce myself here, and offer some assistance.
Here are MY ground rules:
1) If you keep asking me the same questions over and over again, don't be surprised that I either don't answer you, or give you a really stupid answer.
2) I can tell you what you need to know to get WM6 on your device WITHOUT bricking it. I can FIX bricks. Here's the deal. If you want general help, that's great. I can do it. If you want 1-on-1 support, you'll need to PM me and make arrangements to compensate me.
Anyways, I'm not going to be on XDA again, for a while.. So, HoFo just gained a HTC expert
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The "Expert" showed up at HoFo offering his god like service to the pions. Please take this fool back!

dkb218 said:
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1163865&page=1&pp=15
The "Expert" showed up at HoFo offering his god like service to the pions. Please take this fool back!
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LOL....he's getting around a bit then - I've seen him "hanging with JJ" over at 4winmobile too
Having gotten himself and his alter ego (xQx) banned by shogunmark, I'm sure he's bound to (try to?) sneak back under the radar to taunt some poor unsuspecting n00b
For now, at least, the Elf's on the dark side
Mark.

Legolas is saying on HoFo that he was banned because he criticized a Moderator. Just for the record, that is not the reason he was banned and the decision was not taken lightly.
To keep the spirit and quality of this site we will not tolerate abusive language particularly when used to describe other members, or those who cannot accept that this is a community where the opinions of others deserve respect.
We do accept freedom of expression where it is politely and intelligently expressed and does not constitute a personal and abusive attack on other forum users.
Members need only use common sense to see the boundary between reasonable good behaviour and repeatedly going too far.
This is not a forum where people should be tuning in to be voyeurs to the latest tirade of flaming and colourful language - there's lots of other fora you can go to for that.
Here endeth the lesson - now let's have some fun
Mike

Yes, he has been welcomed into HOFO with warmth and open arms. I expect he will be their senior mod soon!
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1163865&page=1&pp=15

JasenR said:
Yes, he has been welcomed into HOFO with warmth and open arms. I expect he will be their senior mod soon!
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1163865&page=1&pp=15
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lol..wow...
Ive seen Logolas shoot out some serious flames before. But reading the reast of that hofo post, it seems like karma is catchin up to him

Mark Crouch said:
Having gotten himself and his alter ego (xQx) banned by shogunmark, I'm sure he's bound to (try to?) sneak back under the radar to taunt some poor unsuspecting n00b
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Your right, he has tried.. and he does currently have a different user id on here, but i am allowing him to plead his case with us mods/admins.. but i can tell you it probably wont last....

shogunmark said:
Your right, he has tried.. and he does currently have a different user id on here, but i am allowing him to plead his case with us mods/admins.. but i can tell you it probably wont last....
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I admit, he is a bit harsh and may have taken it a bit too far, but who doesn't get frustrated. I would rather take some good advice from someone who demands that I do my homework, than get bad advice and a $500 brick. He is knowledgeable and helpful, if not a bit abrasive Seriously, if I had a vote (which I don't), I would keep him around for his knowledge I'll take the personality quirks that go with it. I realize this may not be a popular opinion atm, but he has unbricked a bunch of Hermes.
Just my .02 (monetary unit of your choice)

todd_jg said:
I admit, he is a bit harsh and may have taken it a bit too far, but who doesn't get frustrated. I would rather take some good advice from someone who demands that I do my homework, than get bad advice and a $500 brick. He is knowledgeable and helpful, if not a bit abrasive Seriously, if I had a vote (which I don't), I would keep him around for his knowledge I'll take the personality quirks that go with it. I realize this may not be a popular opinion atm, but he has unbricked a bunch of Hermes.
Just my .02 (monetary unit of your choice)
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If i myself would have only seen what all has happened on the surface then i would probably agree with you, but there has been a lot that has happened in the background that most people dont know about, nor will we make it public.. but i can assure you that the things that have happened in the background completely goes against the xda spirit...

Well, if nothing else, this story illustrates what we should all know well by now ... the internet and technology makes this a very small world ... and there no longer is the fiction of maintaining/making reputations in isolation ... a quick stroll through the HOFO thread make this point crystal clear.
Not to get biblical, but the "reap what you sow" line comes to mind.

mikechannon said:
We do accept freedom of expression where it is politely and intelligently expressed and does not constitute a personal and abusive attack on other forum users.
This is not a forum where people should be tuning in to be voyeurs to the latest tirade of flaming and colourful language - there's lots of other fora you can go to for that.
Mike
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Yet it appears you helped in creating this ****. way to go idiot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308339
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actually mikechannon photoshopped that
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ChaoticDruid said:
Yet it appears you helped in creating this ****. way to go idiot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308339
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Mods: now that the kinder and gentler elf is back, this thread can be cleaned up and locked. Removal of the previous post would be appreciated. I do think that mods should be paid some respect - even from seniors. Thanks.

todd_jg said:
Mods: now that the kinder and gentler elf is back, this thread can be cleaned up and locked. Removal of the previous post would be appreciated. I do think that mods should be paid some respect - even from seniors. Thanks.
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Perhaps another mod should do the cleaning as I seem to be in the firing line here. I would just say that the above graphic was a purely humorous post originally created at the time M$ was making us take down the ROM archive (Hence "no Mr Gates don't do it")- it was certainly not any kind of criticism of Shogun for whom I have great respect. Let's not loose our sense of humour.
Mike

Mike, I apologize, and not because you are a mod, but because I was wrong about you.
I never seen the image when it was used about the rom archive, and immediately seen it as bashing shogunmark.
@ Todd, "the kindler gentler elf" has already mentioned brainless people can't read in his posts already, and also, I don't care if I am senior or noob, (its fairly clear the intent of the Elfs avitar, even though Mikechannon had nothing to do with it) Im going to say something about it, I can't even believe he was let back in, to be honest.

ChaoticDruid said:
Mike, I apologize, and not because you are a mod, but because I was wrong about you.
I never seen the image when it was used about the rom archive, and immediately seen it as bashing shogunmark.
@ Todd, "the kindler gentler elf" has already mentioned brainless people can't read in his posts already, and also, I don't care if I am senior or noob, (its fairly clear the intent of the Elfs avitar, even though Mikechannon had nothing to do with it) Im going to say something about it, I can't even believe he was let back in, to be honest.
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How did you get out of the insane asylum? I was told to watch my language.. I did that.
My avatar has everything to do with the ROM archive being removed.. What were YOU thinking it was?!?
Personally, I just keep hearing the Wizard of Oz when I read your posts... Something about the scarecrow and his one desire.. But, I don't quite remember the words.
Anyways, enjoy the rest of your day! And, thanks for your great input!
The reality is that you don't have to like or agree with me. But, if you really hate everything I do and say, just add me to your ignore list. However, what fun is it to only read one side of an opinion? Maybe you're one of those people who are afraid of having an open mind.. Things can fall out.

ChaoticDruid said:
Yet it appears you helped in creating this ****. way to go idiot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308339
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its true.. it was all a joke and in good fun Mike is a great guy whom i also have lots of respect for.

Wm 6.1 Thought?

This may be a really idiotic question but in my mind it really makes sense. But, I only know some basic things about programming and things of that nature, and not to much about ROM's. But anyway, here goes.
I called Htc earlier today, as I do every week to see if there was any new news on a release date for the very , very elusive Official Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade for my Htc Touch/Vougue, from Alltel. Knowing that Alltel is usually one of the last carriers to get things done,
I tried to get a release date from him with no prevail. But he mentioned that Wm6.1 had already been released in a few other countries(Im in the US), which Im sure quite a few of you knew, but I did not. I had actually never heard this, or read about it here, so I called back and brought it up to another tech and he said the same thing, so I am assuming it's true. If they have misled me , then I'm extremely sorry for the waste of space.
Now I dont know what countries he's talking about, no clue actually ,but heres my thought. If it has already been released in an official form from some overseas cell provider, why couldn't someone download the ROM, and somehow add language support for other countries? Couldn't they just remove the Radio portion of the ROM and release an actual wm6.1 ROM.
Now, like I said , I know nothing or ROM's other than what Ive read here over the past few months, and only what little Ive understood of that. But there are Wm6.1 threads everywhere , of people wanting a stock/orig version, so this just crossed my mind. Maybe that where these custom 6.1 roms on here come from? Im not sure. But its just a thought. Anyone care to correct me or comment? Dont be harsh though, I seriously didn't know if this was possible, and thought if it was, why hasnt it been done. Thanks guys.

oh my god. Curious George.. no comment?

TweakMan said:
This may be a really idiotic question but in my mind it really makes sense. But, I only know some basic things about programming and things of that nature, and not to much about ROM's. But anyway, here goes.
I called Htc earlier today, as I do every week to see if there was any new news on a release date for the very , very elusive Official Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade for my Htc Touch/Vougue, from Alltel. Knowing that Alltel is usually one of the last carriers to get things done,
I tried to get a release date from him with no prevail. But he mentioned that Wm6.1 had already been released in a few other countries(Im in the US), which Im sure quite a few of you knew, but I did not. I had actually never heard this, or read about it here, so I called back and brought it up to another tech and he said the same thing, so I am assuming it's true. If they have misled me , then I'm extremely sorry for the waste of space.
Now I dont know what countries he's talking about, no clue actually ,but heres my thought. If it has already been released in an official form from some overseas cell provider, why couldn't someone download the ROM, and somehow add language support for other countries? Couldn't they just remove the Radio portion of the ROM and release an actual wm6.1 ROM.
Now, like I said , I know nothing or ROM's other than what Ive read here over the past few months, and only what little Ive understood of that. But there are Wm6.1 threads everywhere , of people wanting a stock/orig version, so this just crossed my mind. Maybe that where these custom 6.1 roms on here come from? Im not sure. But its just a thought. Anyone care to correct me or comment? Dont be harsh though, I seriously didn't know if this was possible, and thought if it was, why hasnt it been done. Thanks guys.
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i think wm6.1 roms are available here for a long time..

It's been realesed in various countries outside of the US most likely because of a higher demand, and HTC operates from Taiwan. The update itself is per carrier and country.

Try the "Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking" section, or the section dedicated to your phone, and you might find what your looking for.
I too am suprised to see curious george hasn't told you to stop thinking, maybe he's been kidnapped or something?

i think he's given up on people who post questions like:
"i have a PPC, how do i turn it on?"
*HINT! HINT!*

nir36 said:
i think he's given up on people who post questions like:
"i have a PPC, how do i turn it on?"
*HINT! HINT!*
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WOW! Almost fell out of my chair on that one Nir

i wish it would be in happier circumstances

nir36 said:
i think he's given up on people who post questions like:
"i have a PPC, how do i turn it on?"
*HINT! HINT!*
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Excellent question! Can we get a Sticky or maybe add this to G.W.E.N.I.???

i don't think we need a sticky on it here's the answer:
you go peeing, and if it doesn't turn on when you're back, you should give up and buy a symbian based phone.

nir36 said:
i don't think we need a sticky on it here's the answer:
you go peeing, and if it doesn't turn on when you're back, you should give up and buy a symbian based phone.
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Isn't that a phone for monkeys?
(Maybe we SHOULD sticky this, ehehehehe! )

as it seems... the monkey is dealing with that phone very well
(he probably installed an HTC WM6.1 Official ROM on it himself)
but Dr.Puttingham, you're posing a new and serious question which i will search google for straight away.
"do monkeys pee?"
i will edit this post later with the answer.
(also, i suggest creating an archive with all questions which are too stupid to be asked. before posting every member has to read the whole list and then post a question, if he/she didn't follow the rules he/she will be accused of murder)
put this on the front cover of the archive:

Cell Phone see, Cell Phone Do!!!!

nir36 said:
as it seems... the monkey is dealing with that phone very well
(he probably installed an HTC WM6.1 Official ROM on it himself)
but Dr.Puttingham, you're posing a new and serious question which i will search google for straight away.
"do monkeys pee?"
i will edit this post later with the answer.
(also, i suggest creating an archive with all questions which are too stupid to be asked. before posting every member has to read the whole list and then post a question, if he/she didn't follow the rules he/she will be accused of murder)
put this on the front cover of the archive:
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Now THAT is a great suggestion! We need to start a sticky for these stupid question with a EULA requiring clicking "I have read and agree that these questions are too stupid, even for me"

LOL! dude... you're killing me.

yeah, the eula thing would be so funny, make it some crap like
"its ok to ask if windows mobile 9 can be ported to the sony ericsson k750"
then have options of i agree or this is total crap... then people will by default click i agree, and it should say something like well you cant join then and ip-block them
lol

rorydaredkign said:
yeah, the eula thing would be so funny, make it some crap like
"its ok to ask if windows mobile 9 can be ported to the sony ericsson k750"
then have options of i agree or this is total crap... then people will by default click i agree, and it should say something like well you cant join then and ip-block them
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LOL! You've got my vote.

i think it would be easier to just follow the sign and set them on fire

What's Up with you guys and Kingklick?

Why is everyone disrespecting King? Why has he become such a major target?
Please don't flame the guy on this thread. I actually like his ROM's but I would love to see the other side of the spectrum.
If you do start flaming then I will have this thread closed. I just want information!
And maybe you guys don't care, in that case this all went to waste. But for the people who actually have sufficient reason to dislike his ROMs or him or both, please post why here because this is really curious..

I want you to take a look at the dev section....All of his threads are locked for some unknown reason...And people flame his because they are trolling..That is what people do when they have nothing better to do, they want to make themselves feel better.

This about sums up my problem with him. This is by no means proof that this is what he does, but from past accusations you can make your own judgement:
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Yeah I just saw that. that's the first time I ever saw that man..damn.

JAguirre1231 said:
This about sums up my problem with him. This is by no means proof that this is what he does, but from past accusations you can make your own judgement:
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lol I don't get what your trying to say =P im kind of slow at times.

JAguirre1231 said:
This about sums up my problem with him. This is by no means proof that this is what he does, but from past accusations you can make your own judgement:
Lol that's funny, but you have a point though. Sometimes after someone comes with something new, ex jubeh he makes his own ver with same bugs. I'm not saying anything bad just that's something ive noticed.
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Macrophage001 said:
lol I don't get what your trying to say =P im kind of slow at times.
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"Gonna go work on some Slide now"
"Now Viewing CR_Slide Official Development Thread"
Not exact quotes, but they say the same thing.

yeah I got it now...well ok so I get how that looks...

Macrophage001 said:
yeah I got it now...well ok so I get how that looks...
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You know there's a saying back on my home country, "You play with fire, then fire burn you", but ever since i move to new country of america, now its, "You play with fire, firemen save You!". This new place is not the same like bhak home, it is not as nice but the technology is everywhere.

Well I don't know how those sayings apply here...I don't think he's been "playing with fire" and even if he has, well then it seems like he has a second skin because it hasn't burned him yet. The dude, in my opinion, is tough enough to be able to take such harsh criticism and still make those ROMs for people. I mean even if the ROMs have bugs in them, which ones don't? And if all this stuff about him using other ROMs is true, then why didn't you guys say anything immediately? I mean you don't have to take it so far as to close every thread but I think a simple warning would have sufficed.
But that's only if he did/does that..
That's just my view on the subject.

Macrophage001 said:
Well I don't know how those sayings apply here...I don't think he's been "playing with fire" and even if he has, well then it seems like he has a second skin because it hasn't burned him yet. The dude, in my opinion, is tough enough to be able to take such harsh criticism and still make those ROMs for people. I mean even if the ROMs have bugs in them, which ones don't? And if all this stuff about him using other ROMs is true, then why didn't you guys say anything immediately? I mean you don't have to take it so far as to close every thread but I think a simple warning would have sufficed.
But that's only if he did/does that..
That's just my view on the subject.
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You see back in my home country we do things based on perseverance not relevance, it is tricky here in this new country of America.There are many bad men here, unlike bhak home where we handle problem like this:
We say is there a problem here?
They say yes there problem
Then they fhite it out till one wins, but here in my new home country of america the government people are also bad men, they say economy is bhad, but i see they wase much money. /s
Also I agree with you, it doesn't make sense to lock all of his threads..it will push other ones away.

I don't see the problem.

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Just like causin used to say, "when you go lookin four trouble, then trouble fine you". I sure do miss those olde times, it's not the same anymore . Dhere may bee know problem but don't worry, dhere's nothing to worry about.
Just like olde friend used to tell me bhak in my country.

Just about every, if not all, of the ROMs produced by kingklick are ripoffs from another ROM. The most he will do is add some new gapps, mess around with the build.prop, zip it up and call it his own and beg for donations.
It's been proven on numerous occasions by comparing md5sums of every file in his ROM against another's ROM (which was out first). Guess what? They match! His argument is that we are building the same source, of course they will match! Sounds logical to the day to day user, but the truth is that would never happen, unless by chance kingklick and the other developer were building on the exact same machine.
My $0.02

ctso said:
Just about every, if not all, of the ROMs produced by kingklick are ripoffs from another ROM. The most he will do is add some new gapps, mess around with the build.prop, zip it up and call it his own and beg for donations.
It's been proven on numerous occasions by comparing md5sums of every file in his ROM against another's ROM (which was out first). Guess what? They match! His argument is that we are building the same source, of course they will match! Sounds logical to the day to day user, but the truth is that would never happen, unless by chance kingklick and the other developer were building on the exact same machine.
My $0.02
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Correct, the MD5 sums would not match even if the code was compiled from the exact same source.
For fun, lets give this guy the benefit of the doubt: Suppose that hypothetically he's right and the reason that the MD5 sums match is that hes' compiled the same code. What's concerning here is the HUGE percentage of files that he's not changed.
We're back at square one, that he simply renames another ROM and calls it his own.

Thats the worse part about it, charging for work thats not even his.
If you were the REAL developer I bet you would be mad.
Think about it, its like someone taking credit putting your work out there again and essentially stealing it.... all of it your blood, sweat, time and countless hours of changes until satisfied.
Im amazed more people are not pissed off about this.

Hmm...then who's Blur ROM did he steal? He's one of the only devs I knew that was working on it for the G1 and now the Nexus.
But regardless, his md5sum line doesn't make any sense and it's odd that he'ld use it on xda out of all places. Him looking at a Slide thread a minute later is funny, but not any concrete piece of evidence. However it's the md5sums being the same that doesn't make sense. Even if he got the same md5sum somehow, how is it a different ROM if the vast majority of files are unchanged. I guess the question then is how many files differ between ROMs typically?
Disappointing...

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I guess the question then is how many files differ between ROMs typically?
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There isnt a typical answer for that question. The number of files whose md5sums differ is going to be entirely dependent on how many files have been changed. So for someone compiling their own rom completely from source, as kingklick said he did, every single file would be different.
The more common scenario is if you have two people making roms and adding in bits of their own flavor. In that case, they could be using many of the same files and changing only what they wish. But generally, people who do that state what they did and dont try to lie through their teeth about it by claiming that the rom is entirely their own work.
the main point of all the 'drama' surrounding this is that this isnt the first time this has happened with him. he has had previous occasions where it has been definitively proven that he stole other people's work, branded it as his own and then used it to garner donations for himself. ctso's work was one of the instances in which kingklick did so.
god only knows how many people he duped into donating money to him by allowing them to think that it was his hard work that turned out the rom. it's deceitful. legal circles call it fraud. unfortunately there is no law regarding whats going on here, so the worst that will happen to him is that his roms get pulled and he gets banned.

where do you thing the word #kang comes from
the main problem started a few months back eugene and cyanogen posted roms then king posted saying he had fixed problems.
eugene and cyanogen looked for some hidden text they put in there and they found it everytime in kings so called fixes all eugene and cyanogen wanted was some respect for fixing but king kept saying he had fixed it
so many times he was caught
also he said eugene faked his own house being robbed and phones and pc being stolen
so all people want is respect for thinks they have fixed

It is the donation thing that riles people up. He was gone from this community for some time and then hacked up a fur ball of a froyo rom. His developing skills may be questionable but his marketing skills are unparalleled.

Some of the instructions

On here are about as clear as mud.
I can say thanks for the hard work you guys put in but you really need to stop assuming that everyone is programing at degree level.
After 4 broken mouse a broken cup and 4 sleepless nights I'm giving up trying to root the wildfire..
I don't even want the thing in this house anymore!

That's funny I followed them twice with no complications at all and I knew nothing about Android and have basic computer skills, don't blame the guides here for your own incompetence. Those guides have helped hundreds/thousands of people to gain root, if you're having problems why not ask like everyone else does, though I doubt you'll get much help now.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

Maybe you just don't have enough patience and willingness to put time and effort into your phone. I rooted my wildfire the second day I got it, no problems at all.
PS: epic ragequit bro. A broken mouse and a mug. Over an android phone.
Sent from my Wildfire using xda premium

When I rooted mine I had zero knowlege of Android past "this app looks neat" and I did it in an hour or two (didn't get much sleep that night. too much new stuff to install)
But seriously, if you just use a third party tool like Revolutonary, it's as easy as pie.
Download tool->plugin phone->install drivers (if necesary)->run tool->follow simple onscreen instructions
Sent from my Ainol Novo7 Elf using xda premium

I just think folk could be a bit clearer at times and then when your not having success further in the post someone chimes in with another 'even easier' solution lol, well so they say so your away again and suprise it doesn't work or something isn't clear so you go back and aw well the loop continues until you litteraly break!
I give up the phones old hat now anyway!

Relax A Minute!
@Tevion74
I can understand where you are coming from, before I bought my Wildfire I had never even used any PC Linux Distros (distributions) and had a lot of reading up to do, but the main thing I had to remember is this:
KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON LEARNING
whenever I had a problem rooting or now when I am trying to do something with my wildfire - I will not just dive straight in, research what you want to know IN DETAIL
and then if I am still in doubt, I will ask one of the great devs on here, such as Scratch0805, Heavy_Metal_Man, Sympnotic and Arco68 and Hacktrix2006 - but there as so many that I can not name all the people that have helped our friend Willy Wildfire progress to where its at!
My point is, dont just try and do it if you can't, RESEARCH, and if need be - ask for help.
There is always people on XDA willing to give help to those that ask and don't tant.

Dev? Me? Far from it mate, I have no knowledge of Linux based systems at all, well except what I've learnt here, it has all come from reading guides on xda.
I struggle to understand when erwinp,sympnotic start talking in the cm9 thread.
I think of myself more an advanced user who's not afraid to have a go.
To the op if you post your problem in the thread of the guide your trying to follow we'll try to help you and figure out where your going wrong.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

who me??
GlennBrownie said:
and then if I am still in doubt, I will ask one of the great devs on here, such as Scratch0805, Heavy_Metal_Man, Sympnotic and Arco68 and Hacktrix2006 - but there as so many that I can not name all the people that have helped our friend Willy Wildfire progress to where its at!
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who me not quite, but
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lol thanks for the kind words

You just need to understand that this is a forum. If a member of a forum has a problem, he can post about it and other members can help him solve it. That's how forums work
I'm 100% sure if you posted about your issue in the relevant thread, you would've gotten a solution in 2 hours, if not less.

nejc121 said:
You just need to understand that this is a forum. If a member of a forum has a problem, he can post about it and other members can help him solve it. That's how forums work
I'm 100% sure if you posted about your issue in the relevant thread, you would've gotten a solution in 2 hours, if not less.
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agreed. im sorry if my reply seems harsh (my hasty responses can be) it just frustrates me when people come with grievances and seem to have not asked for help on the matter. if you had asked for help, read the threads and still couldnt get the help you wanted then i would understand. (we have all been there before). our members try there best when righting guides to make them as user friendly as possible. we all need to start somewhere and alot of us come here with little or no knowledge of linux or android. if we can do it you can do it. these things just take time and paitence.

Tevion74 said:
I came on here thanking you guys for your efforts in my first post but making a valid point I feel, then I get some numpty calling me childish and now I have someone saying I started calling others childish...
Pmpl away n boil yer heid!
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Look ya muppet, if you read the guides as carefully as you read my posts I'm not surprised you can't get root. Me and you both seem to have a bit of an attitude so let's just leave it.
Yes we kind of clashed the first couple of posts I get that and offer my apologies, it just p's me off when people throw a fit and blame others because its themselves that can't follow a simple step by step guide correctly. This forum is what it is because of people asking questions and others answering them. I'm offering to help you as that's why we're here and I know other people will too so just chill out, Buy yourself a new mug then have a cuppa tea n we'll try to start again and get you up n running!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

I purchased my wildfire in South Africa and to gain root i couldnt use the regular way, i researched day and night, by the way this is my first android phone, i knew nothing what so ever about what i was doing but because i just applied myself into the task, the day i decided to finally root, it took me less than an hour. but now im fairly competent in fixing this and that on a rom, so shoot your questions, we will answer..........this is XDA, we can do anything.

Ok thread cleaned and closed.
To make things clear here.
XDA is a developer forum and not everyone's personal tech support.
Mostly everyone in here tries and reads the guides and the wealth of information included for their own benefit.
If you dont like the current guides then by all means make your own and offer something back to the community.

People should be warned before rooting HTC M8

Hello,
I've been using Galaxy s3 for and recently moved to HTC M8.
I rooted device and unlocked the bootloader to be able to make few things however I've never predicted that unlocking bootloader is (almost) one way ride.
HTC made a life really difficult and If I knew that it will be a hassle to unroot/lock the bootloader (+removing modified flag) then I would think twice before rooting.
I think it would be good to make this post sticky so people should clearly be made aware of what will happen when they root.
M

m112 said:
Hello,
I've been using Galaxy s3 for and recently moved to HTC M8.
I rooted device and unlocked the bootloader to be able to make few things however I've never predicted that unlocking bootloader is (almost) one way ride.
HTC made a life really difficult and If I knew that it will be a hassle to unroot/lock the bootloader (+removing modified flag) then I would think twice before rooting.
I think it would be good to make this post sticky so people should clearly be made aware of what will happen when they root.
M
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You're coming from a Samsung device, where they don't even allow you to take an OTA EVER AGAIN after rooting, and you're complaining about HTC??

m112 said:
Hello,
I've been using Galaxy s3 for and recently moved to HTC M8.
I rooted device and unlocked the bootloader to be able to make few things however I've never predicted that unlocking bootloader is (almost) one way ride.
HTC made a life really difficult and If I knew that it will be a hassle to unroot/lock the bootloader (+removing modified flag) then I would think twice before rooting.
I think it would be good to make this post sticky so people should clearly be made aware of what will happen when they root.
M
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its down to the user themselves, yes it has an element of risk and we see so many people messing up their phones as they didn't read the necessary info prior to unlocking/rooting. Also yes, rooting a sammy is a piece of piss compared to HTC in certain respects, but the resources are here and providing people embrace the resources on offer they shouldn't have any issues
whilst the above statement agrees with you somewhat, this is a pretty useless thread and goes completely against what xda is here for :laugh:
to sum up,
1, people who are not prepared to do the above, should not think about tampering with thier device
2, thread reported as it serves as much use as a chocolate tea pot, you are defo trolling and inflatable dart boards have served much more use than this. :laugh::laugh:

and you post this at XDA.....the mother of root and customising phones ?
All the things you do to your own phone is at own risk ! You know what the real solution is ....
READ until you actually know what you are getting in to ! if you don't know the terms and conditions than this is not the place to be !

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and you post this at XDA.....the mother of root and customising phones ?
All the things you do to your own phone is at own risk ! You know what the real solution is ....
READ until you actually know what you are getting in to ! if you don't know the terms and conditions than this is not the place to be !
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I clearly understand risk of rooting (bricking device etc) but it would be really easy to tell people that if Sunshine will not work rooting will be just one way ticket!
That's it -as simple as that.

You can change the tampered text, set s-off status text to On and yet have the s-off, so that it doesn't cause problems for warranty purposes...

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You can change the tampered text, set s-off status text to On and yet have the s-off, so that it doesn't cause problems for warranty purposes...
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lets not get into details here. I wanted to pass the message to other users.

Set your m8 s-off and you're able to remove tampered **** with a simple adb command the Same simple a Bit different adb command is for lock your device so read the therms and the instructions ??

m112 said:
I clearly understand risk of rooting (bricking device etc) but it would be really easy to tell people that if Sunshine will not work rooting will be just one way ticket!
That's it -as simple as that.
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providing the user keeps a backup available of thier original rom, returning to stock will never be an issue. the firmware cant be changed as the CID cant be changed
yes warranty is buggered but that's defo the case with samsung devices also. I have a galaxy tab s 10.5 and there's nothing on that particular forum that i could root with without tripping the knox counter
basically if anyone is going to go into rooting without reading what people have been kind enough to compile and do things properly then sorry "we told them so!!" several hundred times actually
oh I just realised......
THERE ARE THESE WARNINGS IN PRETTY MUCH EVERY ROM/ROOTING THREAD IN CAPITALS JUST LIKE THESE

m112 said:
lets not get into details here. I wanted to pass the message to other users.
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passing what message ? that you have to read instead of getting warned....hold on mate its not kindergarten here ?! hahaha
thread is reported already.....let's hold on for the verdict. I had my say.
all the best

There is very little actual information in this post, and I disagree that it should be made sticky.
You were provided ample warning from HTC when unlocking the bootloader. Regardless, any such mods should never be taken for granted and should always be preceded with thorough research.
If you bothered to research current Samsung devices, you will see that root is truly a one way road. All current and forthcoming Samsung devices have a Knox counter. The Knox counter is an actual physical fuse that is blown when you root, and impossible to change by software.

got the "must read" point across so maybe some use for this thread haha !!

Rofl this thread, grabbing popcorn...

m112 said:
Hello,
I've been using Galaxy s3 for and recently moved to HTC M8.
I rooted device and unlocked the bootloader to be able to make few things however I've never predicted that unlocking bootloader is (almost) one way ride.
HTC made a life really difficult and If I knew that it will be a hassle to unroot/lock the bootloader (+removing modified flag) then I would think twice before rooting.
I think it would be good to make this post sticky so people should clearly be made aware of what will happen when they root.
M
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Actually, you can remove the modified tags
and why do you need to warn us galaxy boy, M8 been out for months,do you not think we would know about this anyways if it were true?

exocetdj said:
got the "must read" point across so maybe some use for this thread haha !!
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ghegehe.....not reading ? that's the holy maid maria of all . . . . up's :sly:
edit : carrying away now......

Hawkysoft said:
Rofl this thread, grabbing popcorn...
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ghegehe.....not reading ? that's the holy maid maria of all . . . . up's :sly:
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bang on there mate, worse than trying to flash IOS on m8 :laugh:

Thanks for all your attention hope you didnt choke with the popcorn

Will
I'v been rooted and unlocked bootloader and s-off
But i had succesfully relocked it back and s-on and send it back to htc dealer for hardwer problem
And guess what , they didnt say any thing about it that i'v been out of warrnty

Thread still open? Lol

Samsung says hi. Can someone pass me some popcorn.