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Gingerbread and HTC

It looks like this time around the Droid x is going to get the gingerbread build before us
Hands-on with Gingerbread on Droid X http://bit.ly/dH0pvV
Does anyone remember that when our evo got froyo, Droid x got it a few weeks later! What you guys think?
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I think there is already a thread about gingerbread on the evo here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866245

This thread make it seem like the Droid X and the Evo are both by HTC. Droid X is Motorola.

ms79723 said:
This thread make it seem like the Droid X and the Evo are both by HTC. Droid X is Motorola.
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Actually Sony.(Joke joke teehee)

ms79723 said:
This thread make it seem like the Droid X and the Evo are both by HTC. Droid X is Motorola.
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Really? Ha ha I would never thought of it like that, but man this would really sucked if my Droid x friends get official gingerbread first
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Yea it seems that not only are motorola phones gonna beat us...but maybe *gasp* samsung as well. Definitely something to consider when buying HTC it seems.
I'll eventually be a google phone only guy with all the carrier/manufacturer bs going on.
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Yea it seems that not only are motorola phones gonna beat us...but maybe *gasp* samsung as well. Definitely something to consider when buying HTC it seems.
I'll eventually be a google phone only guy with all the carrier/manufacturer bs going on.
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Yeah that's the only reason that I'm reconsidering to get the evo 3D for nexus s but the GPS issue with Sammy's phones piss me off if it would made HTC it would be a non brainier, I know HTC is delaying to update the HTC evo to make people buy the new phones but I don't think is right, at the end I might end up staying with my evo and get the ipad 2 I got apps on my iPhone the looks like.they got ipad support so wouldn't have to buy them again LOL
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And this is why I'm leaning towards a Nexus S over the Evo 3D.

i saw this thread just before i made one with the exact same topic. you beat me to it.
ya i agree. samsung has leaks out for some galaxy s already, most of which are still eclair btw, and now motorolla has leaks for the droid x and 2? what the hell is going on here? isnt htc supposed to be the company that comes out with everything first? when gb came out, there was a thread that said htc would update ~ February, motorolla around april, and sammy like summer. this seems completely backwards to me.
and didnt an htc rep say they were working on gb for evo around when nexus s was announced? i kno implementing sense is hard and takes a lot of difficult coding and stuff, but 4 months should be more than enough time for paid professionals.
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dkdude36 said:
i saw this thread just before i made one with the exact same topic. you beat me to it.
ya i agree. samsung has leaks out for some galaxy s already, most of which are still eclair btw, and now motorolla has leaks for the droid x and 2? what the hell is going on here? isnt htc supposed to be the company that comes out with everything first? when gb came out, there was a thread that said htc would update ~ February, motorolla around april, and sammy like summer. this seems completely backwards to me.
and didnt an htc rep say they were working on gb for evo around when nexus s was announced? i kno implementing sense is hard and takes a lot of difficult coding and stuff, but 4 months should be more than enough time for paid professionals.
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my thoughts exactly. wtf htc + sprint.

dkdude36 said:
i saw this thread just before i made one with the exact same topic. you beat me to it.
ya i agree. samsung has leaks out for some galaxy s already, most of which are still eclair btw, and now motorolla has leaks for the droid x and 2? what the hell is going on here? isnt htc supposed to be the company that comes out with everything first? when gb came out, there was a thread that said htc would update ~ February, motorolla around april, and sammy like summer. this seems completely backwards to me.
and didnt an htc rep say they were working on gb for evo around when nexus s was announced? i kno implementing sense is hard and takes a lot of difficult coding and stuff, but 4 months should be more than enough time for paid professionals.
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Yeah they probably have it running but they want people to.buy a new device but I think is BS, thank God we got.CyanogenMod but still we deserve a full gingerbread experience with 2.0 sense
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jgalan14 said:
Yeah they probably have it running but they want people to.buy a new device but I think is BS, thank God we got.CyanogenMod but still we deserve a full gingerbread experience with 2.0 sense
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Exactly what they want, Hell if we can get GB with sense 2.0 I'm sure most people are still going to buy the Evo 3D, it's a dual core phone! Of course most of us will buy it.

I hope the update comes with Sense 2.1. It has some sweet features.
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yea a buddy sent me a pic of his droid x with the 2.3.3 build .... i went WTF .. the nexusS it starting to win me over

There is just something about having a Google phone that sreams "baller" to me....(Nexus)
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If they pushed 2.3 for the EVO before the EVO3D was released it would actually make me want to buy the 3D more.
When I go to buy a phone now that I have experience with them.. I will look for a couple major things.
1. Battery life. Let's face it, new features are nothing if your phone dies in 6 hours.
2. Manufacturer/Dev support. If the EVO only gets one update then has to wait until the latest thing comes out before it gets another... then that's a HUGE setback for me, especially if we have a locked bootloader and AOSP roms aren't possible.
Samsung has a horrible rep but the battery life on their phones are reportedly outstanding. They aren't locking the phones down. They did stink it up in a HUGE way with the 2.2 update but if they push 2.3 out ASAP it goes a long way in my eyes.
I HATE HATE touchwiz, but if the phone isn't locked down then it doesn't much matter.

Samsungs phones are locked as well... the evo is too. Motos new phones are encrypted which is the problem.
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I think a lot of people thought exactly what I thought. I saw the galaxy getting the official leak and thought what is going on. Htc is usually first on the scene with this type of stuff. Then today I saw motorola getting some love from the leaks. If both companies drop gingerbread before htc it will look bad on htc. They will be on 2.2 and everyone else on 2.3 and with the evo being seen as one of the best, it would be a shame. I hope HTC changes their mind and just drops gingerbread. I will even take Sense 2.0 and nothing else right now. The new features can come later.

Jjday7 said:
I think a lot of people thought exactly what I thought. I saw the galaxy getting the official leak and thought what is going on. Htc is usually first on the scene with this type of stuff. Then today I saw motorola getting some love from the leaks. If both companies drop gingerbread before htc it will look bad on htc. They will be on 2.2 and everyone else on 2.3 and with the evo being seen as one of the best, it would be a shame. I hope HTC changes their mind and just drops gingerbread. I will even take Sense 2.0 and nothing else right now. The new features can come later.
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Agree I don't care much for gingerbread what I want the most is a 100% working sense 2.0 desing for Evo with 4G , I know myn work in a nnice rom but I'm sure everyone agrees when I say that if HTC realese will be more stable and all features working and let EVO developers get their hand on it
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i think...
moto and sammy are doing market clean up and PR repair.. knee jerk reaction to some surveys done last month about which OEM is faster and better support of upgrades/updates. HTC as at the top of most.
so here is moto and sammy trying to get public favor back. before they release their next big phone. and as most knee-jerk reactions.. the implementation will not be stable and full of bugs.. or low in features.
then back to waiting for the fixes and updates for the upgrade issues.
HTC is staying the course with their proven market strategy.
but I do hope that the quick release of gb on moto and sammy will quicken the gb release from htc on evo!

Gingerbread update?

I can't find anything on this, and noone seems concerned!
This is moto's flag ship device and I can't find any ETA on the upgrade
Froyo is dinosaur by now

Moto said that it would be updated to Gingerbread sometime this year and haven't updated that claim in a while.
A fall update seems to be what people are hoping for, perhaps coming along with an unlocked bootloader. However, we may be able to crack/bypass before then and install it ourselves, so stay tuned
[Also, here come the ragey kids that can't stand people asking questions!]

I think it will sooner than the fall. I bet 6 weeks or less from now.

i bet september - december

At the latest september, but who knows

I read an article that said the Atrix is not getting the Amazon App store update yet because of a pending update from motorola. It didn't mention Gingerbread but when I read it that's what I was left hopeful for.

Gingerbread will be a few months away, so just be patient

In the meantime install gingerblur on the dev section here! Its almost like the real gingerbread! But what about Ice cream!
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I'm betting you won't see it until the Photon comes out for Sprint as it launches with GB. Kinda like the EVO won't see it until after the EVO 3D is released. Btw, the Photon is what the Atrix should have been.

Soooo.... you're saying the Atrix should have been the Droid X2? Basically the same phone with a 3" bigger screen running probably the same resolution since it's supposedly a qHD screen as well, and no fingerprint reader? I don't follow you....

elementaldragon said:
Soooo.... you're saying the Atrix should have been the Droid X2? Basically the same phone with a 3" bigger screen running probably the same resolution since it's supposedly a qHD screen as well, and no fingerprint reader? I don't follow you....
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I think that is what he is getting at ;D

If that is the case, then he's wishing that it had a lower pixel density.... which if it's also a pentile display, would not be a good thing.

elementaldragon said:
Soooo.... you're saying the Atrix should have been the Droid X2? Basically the same phone with a 3" bigger screen running probably the same resolution since it's supposedly a qHD screen as well, and no fingerprint reader? I don't follow you....
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Yes. That's what I'm sayin.

SS2006 said:
I can't find anything on this, and noone seems concerned!
This is moto's flag ship device and I can't find any ETA on the upgrade
Froyo is dinosaur by now
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Being concerned isn't any good except to get worked up over nothing. I think we have seen over the last few releases that moto nor carriers listen to complaints about updates. B*tch & whine all ya want, they don't release it until they want to.
And does anybody really think the unlocked bootloader is going to get att's approval to be released? more likely they will wait till the crack\bypass is done and then incorporate their fix for that in the update. That would be less of a surprise than them releasing the unlock.

SS2006 said:
I can't find anything on this, and noone seems concerned!
This is moto's flag ship device and I can't find any ETA on the upgrade
Froyo is dinosaur by now
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Don't get your point. I bought this phone with Froyo. Expecting anything else is like jobs and bonuses. Yes they are promised, but you don't always get them. Not happy, sell it and move on!!! Always makes me laugh when people buy things then ***** about what they don't have! If you want promises, I have a deal for you. Give me your life savings and I promise to give you double back in 2 months! Just pretend I am Motorola cos' you trust them!
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What we really want is ice cream sandwich!
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mrphil101 said:
Being concerned isn't any good except to get worked up over nothing. I think we have seen over the last few releases that moto nor carriers listen to complaints about updates. B*tch & whine all ya want, they don't release it until they want to.
And does anybody really think the unlocked bootloader is going to get att's approval to be released? more likely they will wait till the crack\bypass is done and then incorporate their fix for that in the update. That would be less of a surprise than them releasing the unlock.
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Fyi several phones on att have bootloaders that can be bypassed. This is moto, and moto only.....
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Yep, the ONLY reason I miss my HTC Aria..

We still wouldn't see much of a difference as gb doesn't utilize the dualcore anyway. Icecream sandwich however will make our phones fly. Most everything coming out is still froyo anyway. So just be patient is see a big push to 2.4 coming our way
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webtop is more of a curse than a blessing on atrix..extra dev.
all the future updates will be delayed like this on atrix imo

Where's my Official ICS for Atrix (MB860)?

Not Rumor!
Atrix MB860 ICS confirmed from Moto
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Currently in Developement:
ATRIX 4G MB860-Rollouts begin in Q3 2012.

realarchambeau said:
Not Rumor!
Atrix MB860 ICS confirmed from Moto
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Currently in Developement:
ATRIX 4G MB860-Rollouts begin in Q3 2012.
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Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up

thewarhawk said:
Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up
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Well I guess it really depends on where you are. USA is Q3.
Asia Pacific, EMEA and LATAM are Eval and planning.

thewarhawk said:
Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up
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Uuh... i think you're looking a little too far south on that list. The one YOU'RE looking at says:
ATRIX / ATRIX 4G MB860/MB861/ME860
Asia Pacific, EMEA, and LATAM
Evaluation & Planning
Further details to follow
Look a little further up the list, and you see:
Atrix 4G MB860
USA
Development
Rollouts begin Q3 2012
So i guess it's already in development for the US market, but still planning for other locale's. Guess it doesn't really matter anyhow... i'm sure we'll have a much nicer version of CM9 LONG before Motorola gets around to making an effort.

Looks like I will continue to use the atrix for a long time! Which is great because the new moto devices wont work with my docks.

Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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jimmer411 said:
Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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I'll still be using and doing work on mine
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jimmer411 said:
Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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I will ^_^
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Ok well that's 2 people.
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jimmer411 said:
Ok well that's 2 people.
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You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
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You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
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Not to mention that it helps resell value a little bit for those who will be unloading their phones. Selling a Gingerbread phone when ICS is widespread would be a much tougher sell.

this is awesome, im stoked!!! I hope they fix the fingerprint stuff and fix the battery....get me some JUICE!!!!

jimmer411 said:
Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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I agree. By the time Q3 kicks in, Quad core phones would be rolling out. Also, remember the Milestone debacle in regards to the Gingerbread roll out which was pushed further and further away. By the time it was released, the update was crap and slowed pretty much the phone down. I sold mine a few months prior to the GB update.
MOD/ROM Devs will either take another 2-4 extra months of tweaking or move on to better things. When Atrix was newly released it took around a few months for a decent ROM to come out. Another few months right after the bootloader was unlocked. Plus, it still depends on HOW MANY Devs will be producing Roms by then.
Understand also that, there are some Atrix owners that are wary of modding their phone. An average Joe wouldnt want to mess with it.
We are only but a handful of modders that are willing to take a leap of faith in phone customization. I got coworkers who own Android phones and are NOT interested in regards to roms/mods.
Currently, im in a dilemma of either switching to a Gnex or wait for the Quad. Only time will tell....

There are some other countries in the world except USA and Canada And in many of them carriers do not subsidize phones and even don't have contracts with fixed monthly payments. For example, I may pay nothing for several months if I only use wifi and accept incoming calls.
So I don't have a reason to buy something else. I think I will do it when a phone 4 cores, 2gb ram, micro sd slot, changeable battery, HDMI, NFC, LTE, unlockable bootloader appears. I don't believe this kind of phone with fully working CM7/9 will appear in Q3. Otherwise it doesn't worth buying, atrix remains one of the most powerful phones with great community support

ATRIX / ATRIX 4G MB860/MB861/ME860 Asia Pacific, EMEA and LATAM
Evaluation & Planning Further details to follow.
Motorola should be crazy
i understand now, motorola very bad corparation and can't sale phones international

I'll be using mine until another quad core google (made by Google) phone comes out. Or if I choose to by the Asus padfone with the money I spent on my prime. I do have experience with rooting unlocking flashing etc I fully modded my backflip. So I don't agree with your average Joe statement. I just refuse to do that for this amazing piece of hardware until stable ics comes out 100% stable working everything. Which means that this ics update IS worth waiting for.JS
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i might have missed something but i didn't see canada listed anywhere.

Alcapone263 said:
You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
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Many people don't updgrade just because they can. I just had to pry my wife's fingers off her Nokia E71 to get her a free Atrix last month. I am going to leave it stock and locked. While I may be using a different phone a year from now she will still have the Atrix which means I will still have access to the lapdock! It will be nice to have ICS..

I love my Atrix and I'm happy about news.
I think I will use till it will break. I don't see any point upgrading even to Tegra 3 or whatever. For phone even Atrix hardware is overkill (for near future).
If you want get highest score in benchmarks, sure then you should upgrade phone alomst every other month...

I gotta agree the atrix is really good even tho newer devices are better they arent that much better than its worth an upgrade.......I preffer wating until there is a quad core phone with battery life that doesn't suck.Also 1Gb of RAM is pretty much the norm now and with about 100 apps on my device im reaching that limit already.Also who cares about the cores dual core phones right now aren't really doing much unless they're on ICS which actually takes advantage of both cores and even then most apps aren't optimized for dualcore so what is the point of four cores....??? there are advantages but still its just funny why take hardware so far instead make better software to utilize what you already have look at apple they dont even have dualcore iphones yet their devices are super smooth and this is coming from me and I hate apple so much.
My main piint is atrix with ICS means that neither att or manufactures will get my money until they got something that really stands out with good hardware and good software and i know most phone are still gonna be on gingerbread probably until this years end....

So...Real Dilemma

okay so tomorrow I am getting the Samsung GS3....i know..big problem .. My mom is taking my Desire HD, and Im getting the gs3, but ever since jellybean, I haven't been able to leave my phone...lol..I can't, I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY. I love the devs here, and i love the people for putting so much time on their devices. Ima miss these awesome devs, so i have a question. With all honesty do you think I should take the gs3 tomorrow, or stick with my DHD..This community just looks so promising.

After using both phones...Samsung.
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okay so tomorrow I am getting the Samsung GS3....i know..big problem .. My mom is taking my Desire HD, and Im getting the gs3, but ever since jellybean, I haven't been able to leave my phone...lol..I can't, I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY. I love the devs here, and i love the people for putting so much time on their devices. Ima miss these awesome devs, so i have a question. With all honesty do you think I should take the gs3 tomorrow, or stick with my DHD..This community just looks so promising.
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Samsung GS3 without a doub't. My next phone is most likely gonna be a nexus or some kind of galaxy. I've lost all faith with HTC now.

wigankev said:
Samsung GS3 without a doub't. My next phone is most likely gonna be a nexus or some kind of galaxy. I've lost all faith with HTC now.
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Don't get your hopes high for Samsung. They are fairly slow in updating their devices. Note and S2 got ICS after 6-7 months.

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Samsung GS3 without a doub't. My next phone is most likely gonna be a nexus or some kind of galaxy. I've lost all faith with HTC now.
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Telling you this, Samsung isn't better. I was with Galaxy S before, it was even worse: dev stops at 2.3.6 Value pack. And it was a legendary phone, consider its 15 millions sales.
HTC though, has made a huge backstep I believe. Rather they publicised not to release ICS in the first place, by denying it they portray themselves as biggest liar. No on likes a liar, that's clear.
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Guys I'm not relying on ota updates at all..I'll be rooting my phone asap .therefore relying on the community
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My future phones will all be NEXUS / pure Google devices, regardless of OEM.
Id even buy another HTC, but only if its a NEXUS / pure Google device.

You must be out of your mind even considering this. If the update for the DHD doesn't come out (and most probably it won't) we may never have a fully working ics or jb rom. CM10 nightlies for the s3 are just around the corner.
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My advice is, don't go for GSIII, instead pick up Galaxy Nexus to ensure you will always got the latest OS.
Are you expecting Samsung to update GSIII when the next version of Jelly Bean came out? I don't think so. Take a look at GSII, eventough the hardware is more than enough for (perhaps) next 2 years or so, Samsung probably have no plan to upgrade it to Jelly Bean.
HTC One series? No comments on this one. Enough is enough, DHD ICS fiasco is enough for me to stay away from this company's products in the future.

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DHD ICS fiasco is enough for me to stay away from this company's products in the future.
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[Q] Atrix 4G ICS Dead?? What will be your next phone?

I am getting tired of always picking the company that least supports its product. I really love the Atrix 4G but I need to move to ICS for security reasons at work. I have waited patiently only to be denied in the end.
That being said, I am looking for a company that not only delivers what they are promissing but activly maintains thier products.
What will be your next phone/manufacturer?

Nexus will be best option. At least it will be updated without false commitments.
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I had a run of Android devices, bit sick of constant update crap, and I'm not giving Google more of my money for a nexus after they shafted us.
So I'm going back to iOS for a while, had a play with an iPhone 5 yesterday; it was damn nice. Same size, but nicer, screen as the Atrix, half the thickness and feels really good quality wise. Camera is awesome.
Maybe when it's due for an update there will be another platform to try out.
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That is some bad news to hear, would of been great to see a ICS/JB rom developed by Notorious544d
Thankfully I sold my Atrix last tuesday and currently looking to buy a HTC One X since they are the best deal right now Hardware/Price...

I am done with motorolla. I said screw this and I ordered a Galaxy nexus today. I was going to sit on it and run out my contract but this was the last straw. I am going to pull the phone off the net showing that this move kills the phone. It me moving off of motorala. It means no increased sales for motorola it means more sales for other companies.

I'm planning on getting a Nexus phone next. It will probably be quite more than a year before I can ditch this thing, though. At least I have my Nexus 7.

Wait, you guys are pissed off with Motorola so you paid a premium for a phone from Google who owns Motorola? And who, in all probability, killed our update?
That'll show them your outrage.
/facepalm
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consolation said:
Wait, you guys are pissed off with Motorola so you paid a premium for a phone from Google who owns Motorola? And who, in all probability, killed our update?
That'll show them your outrage.
/facepalm
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Dupe thread -- if you want to chat about your next phone after the Atrix, there is a older and longer thread here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832081