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Not another Froyo Post..

This isn't a rant or anything, or I won't try to make it one. But I just came across on Android Central that the Droid is getting 2.2.1.
Now this is just so depressing already that we have a phone that's been out for about 5 months now and haven't seen Froyo (only in Unoffical leaked builds). The Droid has been out far longer, I know that. But Samsung is really dragging their feet. Froyo offically, when it comes out, better knock our ****ing socks off or it was a waste of time to wait for them to deliver.
I'm just saying, this just makes Samsung look that much worse.
http://www.androidcentral.com/leaked-android-221-motorola-droid-frg83

so you complain about our leaked ROMs by posting about another phones LEAKED ROM?
Dude... just flash froyo. They are daily drivers and quit posting the same stuff.

The leaked FroYo build is knocking my socks off...
Just sayin'

s15274n said:
so you complain about our leaked ROMs by posting about another phones LEAKED ROM?
Dude... just flash froyo. They are daily drivers and quit posting the same stuff.
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I didn't mean to bash or knock it. There's nothing wrong with the builds, it'd be nice to have an official build though I guess..

Okay, but is it not ironic you started your non-rant post stating that the Droid was getting 2.1.1 and how it looks bad for Samsung, but you completely ignored the fact it ALSO was a leaked build?
Just let it die..

s15274n said:
Okay, but is it not ironic you started your non-rant post stating that the Droid was getting 2.1.1 and how it looks bad for Samsung, but you completely ignored the fact it ALSO was a leaked build?
Just let it die..
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K, I'm done.

presence06 said:
The Droid has been out far longer, I know that. But Samsung is really dragging their feet. Froyo offically, when it comes out, better knock our ****ing socks off or it was a waste of time to wait for them to deliver.
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There's really no debate that Samsung is WAY behind here. Yes. the Droid has been out way longer, but the Incredible and Droid X haven't and they've gotten Froyo a long time ago. Incredible got it around 8/30 and X around 9/21.
Assuming that Samsung does get it out this year, that puts them anywhere from 2-4 months behind the competition, depending on when they do finally release it.
That's really bad. Sure they didn't promise 2.2 at any particular time, but that doesn't mean I don't factor it in when making my next phone purchase. I hope everyone does. If not, it'll give the manufactures even more reason to withhold updates in the future and try to push new phones instead.

Just heard from Cyanogen's twitter that CM6 is finished for the G2. I'm sure the new my touch isn't far behind.
Depressing
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s15274n said:
Okay, but is it not ironic you started your non-rant post stating that the Droid was getting 2.1.1 and how it looks bad for Samsung, but you completely ignored the fact it ALSO was a leaked build?
Just let it die..
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Yeah, but you seem to be ignoring the fact that the Droid already HAS an official Froyo, and the leaked build is a second generation update.
The Vibrant does NOT have an official build, and the way it's going, the Droid X may have Gingerbread before we get an official Froyo build.
How can you even begin to defend Samsung?

Yes, it is "just" another Froyo post. +1 Ignore!
~SB

Geez, people, of course Samsung is going to be behind. Motorola's and HTC's phones all have the same OMAP and Snapdragon cores they've used from the first Droid and Nexus One. No wonder they've all gone to Froyo before Samsung.
How many phones used the Hummingbird before the Galaxy S line? None. But I'll bet you that future updates will come faster now they've got Froyo figured out.
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Kubernetes said:
Geez, people, of course Samsung is going to be behind. Motorola's and HTC's phones all have the same OMAP and Snapdragon cores they've used from the first Droid and Nexus One. No wonder they've all gone to Froyo before Samsung.
How many phones used the Hummingbird before the Galaxy S line? None. But I'll bet you that future updates will come faster now they've got Froyo figured out.
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LOL....
Strange reasoning, since Samsung developed the chip themselves, so they should know it better. Plus, they've had a long time to figure Froyo out. And still haven't, officially.

MacGuy2006 said:
LOL....
Strange reasoning, since Samsung developed the chip themselves, so they should know it better. Plus, they've had a long time to figure Froyo out. And still haven't, officially.
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Designing the chip and modifying the software to work with the hardware are two different things. Just because you know the hardware, doesn't mean it's easy to make the software work with it nicely.

Only thing wrong with these threads is they are always full of hearsay. Rarely anyone states fact, just opinion. Who says sammy is holding it back? The leak came from tmo right? this pessimistic view is what makes ppl always have that "omg I have froyo & I hate it, its not perfect.... I want gingerbread" mentality. Life lesson, you'll never be happy with this attitude.
I, myself, try to look at the recent events of the "rumoured nexus s" that engadget posted pics. If this does happen to grace the GS community think of how fast, far, & easily we may make it to 2.3! Im no tech & I may be way off, but id like to think that this would give us the OPEN "NEXUS" development base we'd need to achieve that level of vanilla android base w/ drivers, code & hopefully working gps ;j (minus the new chipset, obviously).
Just be glad that we do have devs who do what they can & hope that sammy doesn't do anything else to screw us. I will be hoping (but not holding my breathe) for a nexus $ gingerbread port.

DKYang said:
Designing the chip and modifying the software to work with the hardware are two different things. Just because you know the hardware, doesn't mean it's easy to make the software work with it nicely.
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Exactly. Remember that Froyo was actually built for the Snapdragon, whereas most of the GS hardware is unlike that seen in other previous phones.
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If theres a leaked froyo it means Samsung has fine their part. Its up to tmo to push it out.
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DKYang said:
Designing the chip and modifying the software to work with the hardware are two different things. Just because you know the hardware, doesn't mean it's easy to make the software work with it nicely.
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Apple doesn't seem to have any problems with doing this. Samsung is way bigger. They should have their crap together
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Tempestrs4 said:
Apple doesn't seem to have any problems with doing this. Samsung is way bigger. They should have their crap together
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Yey but we get to modify the crap out of one of the fastest phones with one of the best screens, and do whatever we want with it, thanks to some great sharing devs, to a device that's almost un- brickable.
Now thats fun!
Apple crapple, great form and simply reliable yet unbendable device to buy all things Apple dollars via only iTunes. No thanks. I'll take what Samsung doesn't have together.
Yes I've complained before but now I have learned a bit more and I have Froyo.
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How come none of the people that rant about not having an official Froyo release remember that 1. we have they best hardware of any phone out, I can't recall how many times I've heard owners of other phones complain that they've run out of room for their apps because they only have 2gb internal storage, and 2. this site is XDA Developers not XDA stock software release news. If you want to rant about the official release go over to the T-Mobile or Samsung forums and do it.
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12paq said:
Yey but we get to modify the crap out of one of the fastest phones with one of the best screens, and do whatever we want with it, thanks to some great sharing devs, to a device that's almost un- brickable.
Now thats fun!
Apple crapple, great form and simply reliable yet unbendable device to buy all things Apple dollars via only iTunes. No thanks. I'll take what Samsung doesn't have together.
Yes I've complained before but now I have learned a bit more and I have Froyo.
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The devs have no choice but to share. Voiding warranties is uncool for many of us.
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Will Samsung Skip 2.2 for 2.3

So I was thinking.....
With all the Nexus S rumors floating around I ad a thought. Why would Samsung put much effort into 2.2 when 2.3 is coming soon. Maybe we will skip over 2.2. Also I am hoping a Nexus S will allow us have have a good shot at getting a stock Android build or a stable cyanogenmod version because it will be based on Samsung hardware.
One can only hope, or maybe me thinking is not such a good thing after all.

atrich0608 said:
Why would Samsung put much effort into 2.2 when 2.3 is coming soon.
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Samsung's efforts are complete for the most part, regarding 2.2. They have released it to (all or most, no confirmation) Galaxy S carriers. It is now up to the carriers to accept (as has been done by several) or reject (which is usually the case with VZW).
We've, of course, gotten zero verification that VZW has received anything, but based purely on the fact that it is already *out* on other SGS devices, one can logically assume VZW is the one holding the process up at this point...again, as usual.

Sounds like buisness as usual for VZW. Reminds me of my good old BlackBerry storm.

the nexus S will likely be a much a different phone while being very similar, it will likely not use RFS filesystem as it is garbage, and it will be a GSM model, while one would question why put out froyo so late in the game to your flagship, what makes you think they could have gingerbread ready if froyo still isn't ready, im primly on the same boat as everyone else and am getting tired of being jerked around while older, slower, less selling phones receive an update that we can't even get a date on.
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Why are people so upset about the Froyo delay? The Motorola Backflip that came out in March just got updated to 2.1. The Fascinate was released 2 months ago and shipped with what the Backflip was just upgraded to. It would be nice to have Froyo on the Fascinate, but is it really that big of a difference between 2.1 and 2.2 that people can't just be patient and wait for it?

I'm not 100% on this, but I don't think an upgrade from 2.1 to 2.3 can be done while completely skipping over 2.2. Not an OTA at least.

Actually most people think that if Nexus S is indeed Galaxy S that means that all Galaxy S will benefit, this is not true. Even if all other Galaxy S version receive 2.3 and fascinate doesn't, we can't do anything about 2.3 because the 2.3 kernal isn't here. OS and kernal are two different things. We've had OS sources for the longest time because it is released by Google, that doesn't mean anything if we don't have the working kernal. Devs tried to build 2.1 kernal from the ground in the past with Droid Milestone(?) but that was hell and no one would even try to do that ever again.
So stop with Nexus S = Galaxy S. Even if that is true, unless it is exactly same as Fascinate, we won't benefit anything from that, just like we can't benefit from Internation version, Vibrant, Epic 4G, and Captivate Galaxy S. We need specific "Fascinate" kernal code.

You are exactly right. We couldnt have gingerbread for the exact same reason we can't have froyo now. Think about. I think the fascinate is doomed. Thank God for our good devs, they can keep us up to date, til LTE, At which point, im out!!!
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I agree with ksizzle.. I'm starting to think this phone is doomed
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I wouldnt say its doomed at all . like dude said , its only been two months . Yeah other carriers have it already and vzw is notorious for things like this... but give it a little more . Im probably the most impatient guy around here , i mean the ONLY reason i care at all about it is so development picks up on it . I could care less about playing videos in a browser without an app haha .
I know there is a little more than flash .But there isnt really anything WRONG with 2.1 . Just lack of development ... and even with that said , new kernals are popping up , new roms ,etc . I think this phone is far from dead. i just think we are really impatient haha .

im def being pessimistic but i'm just getting flashbacks of having a blackberry tour last year and being on crackberry forums like wheres our update? and the tour being like the redheaded step child of verizons phones and i jus got deja vu w/ this delayed 2.2 situation...
and then its like gingerbread is coming out now, so there will b phones on 2.3 while we JUST get 2.2.... how long is it gonna take us to get 2.3. im fairly positive it won't b as timely as it should... so i kinda feel doomed lol... i love this phone but dam

while it may have only been two months since this phone came out froyo has been out since may 19, 2010 to be exact. That puts us at six no that behind the current OS, which In a week or 2 will be the old one. However, with that said, I think there are some things in store for everyone that will make this phone MUCH more enjoyable and hopefully we can get it soon.
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I think that we are spoiled users, if we look to the dark side, the iPhone gets a mayor update about once a year, we have to chill out a bit and enjoy what we have now
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I had froyo on my droid it really brought nothen major to the table imo. Im fine with current setup but i just want the fixes/patches for bugs and im happy. Main being gps and button backlights.

bL33d said:
I had froyo on my droid it really brought nothen major to the table imo. Im fine with current setup but i just want the fixes/patches for bugs and im happy. Main being gps and button backlights.
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I have to agree. I remember going through this when I had my Droid and being unimpressed with 2.2. Other than Flash, which for me isn't even a huge deal anyway, I didn't see what all the fuss was about.
I definitely am DYING for a GPS fix though. As for backlights, not sure what's wrong with them unless you're talking about how long they stay on but I thought that there is already a mod for that anyway, no?
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Other than flash and Google making applications not work on our phone I am totally happy. (flame suit) If it wasn't for those things I would be happy if we never got another update.
I am using JT's non- voodoo kernel and system.

atrich0608 said:
Other than flash and Google making applications not work on our phone I am totally happy. (flame suit) If it wasn't for those things I would be happy if we never got another update.
I am using JT's non- voodoo kernel and system.
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How is google making apps that don't work on the Fascinate?
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Mylt1 said:
How is google making apps that don't work on the Fascinate?
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I am taking about the app's that do not work on 2.1 period, not specifically the Fascinate. Like "Voice Actions for Android", new gmail app, etc.

jorge3687 said:
I think that we are spoiled users, if we look to the dark side, the iPhone gets a mayor update about once a year, we have to chill out a bit and enjoy what we have now
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i agree with u except fo the fact that, A. anyone with an iOS developer acct get the OS way in advance. B. when they release an OS update all their stuff gets it.

Canadas Fascinate isn't getting Froyo till January. So let's not get hopes up folkes. I don't see officisl froyo coming this month unless its a leak or a port of some sort.
Anyone ready to jump ship?

Official 2.3 In March?!?!

Fellas, just read over in Engadget that HTC devices will be getting 2.3 starting in March.
Of course, we've been disappointed before, and there's no mention of which specific devices would be receiving the update, but we can always hope...

This line;
(March if you're with HTC, June if Samsung, 2017 if you're unfortunate enough to own a Sony Ericsson)
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Not taking that too seriously
Unless it came from the comment section ... in which case I can't be bothered to look LOL

I smell bull****. March is a long ass way away all HTC needs to do is strip stock Android apps and replace them with their own.

jackjumper85 said:
I smell bull****. March is a long ass way away all HTC needs to do is strip stock Android apps and replace them with their own.
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Do you have a clue what's involved re-factoring to a new platform and implementing a new skin (SenseHD)?
We'll be lucky to see it by March. I suspect later.

myn said:
Do you have a clue what's involved re-factoring to a new platform and implementing a new skin (SenseHD)?
We'll be lucky to see it by March. I suspect later.
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I'm hoping for sooner. They all surprised us with Froyo pretty darn quick!

myn said:
Do you have a clue what's involved re-factoring to a new platform and implementing a new skin (SenseHD)?
We'll be lucky to see it by March. I suspect later.
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Froyo was announced in May, and EVO's got the update in August, I think...only three months. March is not an unrealistic expectation, though I do wish Engadget would have cited their source for that info.

That was just sarcasm. They have no idea when gingerbread will hit any device.
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Android Central:
The Evo 4G
Yes, your Evo will get Gingerbread, I'm sure of it. Regardless of which phone the customers think is Sprint's best Android offering, Sprint has a lot riding on the Evo, even five months after its launch.
To round it all out, there's this crazy rumor -- and feel free to ridicule me for not having the link -- that an HTC employee confirmed that HTC wants Gingerbread on the Evo before Christmas, and Sprint wants to be first to market with the update. Like I said, it's a rumor, but it sounds reasonable.

Hopefully sooner.. the post above would be super awesome if true.
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By then, ill be upgrading to the next HTC phone. That's way too long.
I feel that We can complain about htc taking forever to release an update because we for 1, bought the htc phone.
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nhutpham said:
Android Central:
The Evo 4G
Yes, your Evo will get Gingerbread, I'm sure of it. Regardless of which phone the customers think is Sprint's best Android offering, Sprint has a lot riding on the Evo, even five months after its launch.
To round it all out, there's this crazy rumor -- and feel free to ridicule me for not having the link -- that an HTC employee confirmed that HTC wants Gingerbread on the Evo before Christmas, and Sprint wants to be first to market with the update. Like I said, it's a rumor, but it sounds reasonable.
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Here's the story on that:
http://www.techhog.com/editorial/exclusive-htc-has-gingerbread-already/

indagroove said:
Here's the story on that:
http://www.techhog.com/editorial/exclusive-htc-has-gingerbread-already/
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I hope this is true. I can wait til then.
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khov07 said:
Fellas, just read over in Engadget that HTC devices will be getting 2.3 starting in March.
Of course, we've been disappointed before, and there's no mention of which specific devices would be receiving the update, but we can always hope...
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They were just being sarcastic and poking fun at Sony. Engadget currently has no idea when the 2.3 update will be released by carriers.

I bet you there will be many cook rom before the actual release

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It does make sense for htc to get it early as they manufacture the N1.
MAN OH MAN WE HOPE THIS IS LEGIT
Could very well be 100% false But.....
MAN OH MAN WE HOPE IT IS TRUE!

Remember, they said end of the year for 2.2, but we got it like a month later. I bet by January will have it,official or not.
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i would agree that sprint still views the Evo as their flag**** model and not only that but its had commercial success, anyone remember how hard it was to get those things in the first 90 days?? you better believe they were probably working with HTC to make sure its updated in a timely manner. also, it makes sense for it to get the first HTC update since it has the largest install base.
All speculation on my part, but my two cents

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Interesting article.
It would make sense that Sprint would make an effort to update EVO's to 2.3 as soon as possible. As someone else already mentioned, this is definitely their flagship device. Though the Samsung Epic is also a 4G phone, it has not been marketed nearly as much as the EVO.
This is pure speculation on my part, but it would seem to be in their best short-term interests to continue to develop for the EVO, as it has hardware that is very capable, and 2.3 would only make the device that much more appealing. It may be cheaper to develop for existing, familiar (and not very old) hardware than to develop for new hardware. I could be wrong.
I can already hear the commercials: "the EVO, now faster than ever..."

Yeah, I hope they push out 2.3, even if it has old sense.

Rydah805 said:
By then, ill be upgrading to the next HTC phone. That's way too long.
I feel that We can complain about htc taking forever to release an update because we for 1, bought the htc phone.
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Is that all people do? Complain? Become a developer and do something about it then
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Galaxy S or Droid X?

What should I get Verizon saaid I can switch....help! I have a DX right now...

Keep the X if you ever want an update
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tyvallely said:
What should I get Verizon saaid I can switch....help! I have a DX right now...
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Galaxy S isn't on Verizon. The variant the fascinate is. Being a former fascinate owner stick with the X. Even with the voodoo lagfix Droid x is far more stable. Sure the super amoled is nice as well a better gaming performance, but it's not worth the lag and hiccups from the fascinate.

If you want development, go with the fascinate.
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Get a dx
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seeing as recent events have been putting hackers into a corner, id say iphone

luigi90210 said:
seeing as recent events have been putting hackers into a corner, id say iphone
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Ha ha ha you're a joker you

cstrife999 said:
Ha ha ha you're a joker you
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no im actually quite serious
now i love android and i also hate the iphone with a bloody passion but in reality with locked bootloader on almost every new device made by the main manufactures(HTC, Motorola, and now samsung) makes it near impossible to make your phone yours and even with root access what can you really do that a jailbroken iphone cant?
i mean you dont have to use itunes and such but seriously it isnt hard to jailbreak an iphone and free it from itunes
in reality though the droid x will never be a droid 1, or a HTC Dream(G1) for that matter
EOL for the droid x is coming up and chances are that 2.3 is going to be the last OTA for the droid x and after that your stuck on 2.3 or what ever version manufactures leave you on until you buy a new device
at least the iphone will last 2 years before it stops getting updates

I picked up a DX on craigslist about a week ago to check out why people were leaving the Fascinate for it. I chose a Fascinate over the DX last fall and only regretted it until the first froyo leaks for it showed up.
In my opinion (grain of salt check) a froyoed Fascinate is a better phone than a froyoed DX. Development seems to be roughly the same in terms of quantity and the quality of development on the Fascinate feels better. My camera/camcorder works, bluetooth doesn't kill the battery, GPS is fixed.
I haven't played around yet with gingerbread (yeah, I'm waiting...) So I can't comment there. Sleigh it looks like fully functioning GB is right around the corner and there is a handicapped one out now for the Fascinate.
This is totally subjective, but the Fascinate is more comfortable to hold also. My DX is probably going to last another week before hitting "The 'bay".

Galaxy S II should be out in 1-2 months. Just wait and get that. Far better than either the Galaxy S or Droid X.

Wow I need to delete this thread because my dad is soooooooo gay and made me get a piece of **** phone. **** this is awesome.

Dx by a mile. Bigger screen, better camera, you will get manufacturer updates. Anyways, wait for the bionic or get a thunderbolt.
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DX or HTC Thunderbolt

chbennett said:
Dx by a mile. Bigger screen, better camera, you will get manufacturer updates. Anyways, wait for the bionic or get a thunderbolt.
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Although I agree with most of that as I also suggested droid X. Fasinate has a far better camera. People think more MP equals better. In this case it doesn't. Of every phone I have ever owned Fascinate has the best camera.

I dont think you guys understood could only get the samsung......but now i have a working dx

Evo3d or galaxy s2

I like both phone, both has crazy specs, I have the evo now and love it. What I love about the evo is that there is so many roms to choose from. My main concern is which phone is easier to develop for and do you think Samsung development community would be as big as HTC development community. Not to mention that I love the cm roms and there roms is still in experimental stage for Samsung. I really answering my own question for the evo3d but that screen on the galaxy s2 is calling me.
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fredox19 said:
I like both phone, both has crazy specs, I have the evo now and love it. What I love about the evo is that there is some many roms to choose from. My main concern is which phone is easier to develop for and do you thing Samsung development community would be as big as HTC development community. Not to mention that I love the cm roms and there roms is still in experimental stage for Samsung. I really answering my own question for the evo3d but that screen on the galaxy s2 is calling me.
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I sold my EVO and bought an Epic back in December... big mistake for someone that likes to dev and tweak his phone. The Epic hardware is awesome, but the dev support is very lacking. Yeah, I could overclock my Epic and score 2400+ on Quadrant and it took great HD Video compared to the EVO. The screen was also beautiful. I traded the Epic for an EVO because I missed being able to dev. If you're the type of person that always wants to be on the cutting edge with the newest version of Android, then stay with what the DEVs are using (probably EVO3D). If you're someone that runs the same ROM for months at a time (i.e. not a flashaholic) then the Samsung S II may be best for you. It depends on what you're looking for and what you're looking to do with your phone.
-Daryel

Yup Evo 3D, even tho it might have lock bootloader like the thunderbolt, it will have more support from developers, and good ones too, virus is coming alone and myns wants too, I believe mik is coming and of course others
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...custom-roms-look/&category=classic&postPage=1
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I wonder how long it will take them to crack the bootloader if it is indeed locked. I hope not too long. But its what ever. After running Virus' Kindom Port, ill be fine with stock un-rooted for a lil while

My only concern is developing for the EVO 3D as they have some new files that are going to be or may be difficult to work on. Only time will tell. I'm going to the EVO 3D because I love Sense and I can tell you right now the galaxy wont have that.

My favorite roms are myns for sense and cm7 for latest android roms. So I guess ill stay with HTC
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I checked out both phones at Google IO. The galaxy S2 was so thin and the screen was amazing. Both phones were super snappy.
The only turnoffs for me on the galaxy s2 was the plasticky cover and the weight. Anyone who's owned a Samsung phone knows what i'm talking about with the plasticky feeling phones. But the weight of the S2 blew me away. I can't remember a lighter smartphone. It felt like a toy. It was basically "too light." I'm sure for many, that phrase doesn't even make sense, but for me, I like phones that feel solid and have some substance to them. For some, when they throw this phone in their pocket, they won't even know its there.
I have to hand it to Samsung though. The S2 is an impressive engineering accomplishment. Its the highest performance phone I've seen announced, and its so damn thin and light.

I'm personally a fan of sense, or at least having the option of sense, and I doubt that would ever fully translate to a Samsung product no matter what developers are working on it.
I really love the slab form of the GSII, if they release a HTC slab phone (like the Sensation) on Sprint, that would really be the phone I'd want. Evo 2?

HTC has better radios and gps, Samsung sucks!

the s2 does seem intriguing...also i hate that instead of hdmi out, the use usb and then give you a converter cable w/ an additional power source on it. plus, for some unknown reason, it seems we could be waiting a while before it actually hits the market in the states for some reason eventhough it is already in europe (gsm version). also, i hopped on to the evo 3d thread a while ago and the dev's were introducing themselves...there were LOADS of great dev's coming on board. With the specs and dev's on board, the 3d will have some spectacular features!

I am intrigued by the GS2 and the new version of Touchwiz... I HATE HATE HATE touchwiz, but the new version looks ok so far.
One thing that will keep me from considering the GS2 is if it has a physical keyboard. I don't know why Sprint has to be the one that gets that...

I'm going with the EVO 3D. The specs look awesome.

Neither, its all about the Nexus 3

^that not going to be out for a while

dabbill said:
Neither, its all about the Nexus 3
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Amen to that!! All about the Nexus3 in Dec. A Tegra3 Quadcore?? Rediculous!! Worth the wait IMO!!
The Evo can defiantly hold up til then.

well my wife is due for an upgrade on august which i would the get the evo3d and give my evo to my wife. then my 18 month upgrade for my line would be in jan which then ill get the nexus 3 everybody is happy

blassilando said:
Amen to that!! All about the Nexus3 in Dec. A Tegra3 Quadcore?? Rediculous!! Worth the wait IMO!!
The Evo can defiantly hold up til then.
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Lol if you believe that's coming to sprint in December I got some land for sale....its in the middle of the ocean too. Lmao!!!!!
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Evo 3d all the way!!

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Lol if you believe that's coming to sprint in December I got some land for sale....its in the middle of the ocean too. Lmao!!!!!
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I highly doubt the Nexus3 will launch on Sprint. I could care less which carrier it lands on tbh. It's still worth waiting for!! Jaja

blassilando said:
I highly doubt the Nexus3 will launch on Sprint. I could care less which carrier it lands on tbh. It's still worth waiting for!! Jaja
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I think it will launch on sprint, google and sprint are getting really tight now. First with google voice and now with the nfc payment system.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/24/google-and-sprint-team-up-to-take-your-digital-dollars-with-new/