http://xperiablog.net has been asked to relinquish both that domain and XperiaX10.net and hand them to Sony Ericsson. They have been accused of using the Xperia brand "in bad faith" and they can't fight against such a behemoth. It's a shame that one of the top sites about our phones gets the axe in such a jerkass way.
Can Sony do that? I know if you're just holding on to the domain (Like walmart.com or target.com or something) and doing nothing it's cyber squatting but if you're actively posting updating and whatever and not selling it-it's yours?
Another reason to boycott sony products
This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Sony Ericsson. SONY ERICSSON, XPERIA, and various product names found on this website are trademarks of Sony Ericsson unless otherwise noted.
xperiablog
thats why it got shutdown.
whereas sites like playstation.blog are official websites supported by S0NY
I read some updates and decent reviews from them.. Too bad that they are closing now..
As you can guess, we're afraid now in Xperia.Es that done jerkass decides to send a similar letter.
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They just did
I know if you're just holding on to the domain (Like walmart.com or target.com or something) and doing nothing it's cyber squatting but if you're actively posting updating and whatever and not selling it-it's yours?
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Companies take trademarks and brand image very seriously. It is well within their legal rights to protect it, if there is justification. In this case there is justification, as Xperia is a trademark of Sony Ericsson, and they felt their brand was not being handled properly.
Even Microsoft made a person give up their domain name because it phonetically sounded like "Microsoft."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_vs._MikeRoweSoft
They're so lame. Communities and people like them are what makes a company big, when someone goes online to check on a product and finds that it has so many followers, fansites dedicated to it, reviews and a lot of support, we like the product and know that even if the company turns their back on us (most of the time) the community will be there to help us.
Good luck on your site Logseman, let's hope it stays there for a long time.
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In this case there is justification, as Xperia is a trademark of Sony Ericsson, and they felt their brand was not being handled properly.
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I call bull**** on this.
These guys were enthusiasts of Sony Ericsson's products, and they had been informing about all things Xperia for a long while, without any bad faith or slander against Sony Ericsson. Were they to come to court, they would prove it. They have decided not to because they can't or aren't willing to pay to defend what is self evident.
This kind of statements, aside of reeking of corporate slavery, are completely false as well. There are heaps of sites dedicated to bash Apple every day. Since those guys know that there is no such thing as bad press, they don't act against them. Meanwhile, Sony Ericsson, which has been struggling for years in the market, chooses to strangle one of its greatest unofficial feelgood spreaders. Way to go!
We should be thankful that both HTC and o2, Really don't care that XDA are using there name
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...and they wonder why some people were so happy when they got hacked.
I love my Play, but screw Sony.
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...and they wonder why some people were so happy when they got hacked.
I love my Play, but screw Sony.
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the hackers are still arses to hack Sony. -.-
Either way , ask sony to make an official Xperiablog like playstation.blog.eu/us .
Or create a FB page xP
I know the bad faith thing sounds bad but they have only asked for the domains haven't they?
The guys behind the site could set up another that doesn't use the branding.
With such a domain a lot of people may think it's an official site, which is why they have asked for it.
Cat_On_Droid said:
the hackers are still arses to hack Sony. -.-
Either way , ask sony to make an official Xperiablog like playstation.blog.eu/us .
Or create a FB page xP
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Sony Ericsson has its own official sphere with its official product and development blogs, its own official forums and so on. It goes against its own interests to smother what outside people are saying, particularly when they're enthusiasts of your products.
Take another example: Cyanogen Mod does not endorse Sony Ericsson closely or market their phones in any way, yet the CM7 team received hardware and support from them. If they are willing to help people who, so to say, are outsiders, how come are they lawyering against insiders who were willing to spread the awareness of their brand?
I really hope they're just after the domain name and aren't actually looking to shut the site down. I can understand Sony wanting to protect trademarks, but I can't understand why they'd be opposed to the content of the blog.
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Rikard Skogberg @ SonyEricsson, who is also the writer of the blog @ http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/ said that SonyEricsson are really hearing what we, the users, have to say about the products. He say that the users opinion has a big impact inside the company, or at least that was what he said only 2 days ago.
So my thought was to make a petittion in order to try and open SonyEricssons eyes up, and try to get them to understand that we really want them to release the bootloaders for our Xperia phones.
The reason for making the pettition here is that YOU have to be logged in to sign it, not like the SonyEricsson blog that anybody can sign 1000 times if they want...
And we can easy link to this forum when we have a lot of signatures, to show SonyEricsson the result...
So now, keep this pettition clean, no hard words or nothing bad about SonyEricsson nor the whole delay and 2.1/2.2 issue, this thread is not what this is all about.
If you want to mark me or flame me for trying this, then PM me, or start a new tread instead !
I don´t think this have been tried before, but if it has then pleace show me a link to a bunch of signatures, so we can show it to Rikard Skogberg and SonyEricsson.
Rikard Skogberg have said earlyer that not even 18.000+ signatures could make them give us Android 2.2 instead of 2.1, and that can be a marketing issue.
He have not said anything about them not giving up the bootloaders if we ask nice ?
And reading what he said two days ago, things look like they have changed a little in the company since May.
Also i don´t think that any one has actually tried this before, so give us your signature in this petittion and lets try this for real if we can convince SonyEricsson to give us the bootloaders...just try...
Just write down your name and what SonyEricsson phone you have, and let´s hope for the bedst.
Hey, it can´t hurt to ask SonyEricsson nice for the bootloaders, can it
To keep this a nice and clean petittion, pleace use this form:
I would really like if SonyEricsson would set our Xperia phones free, and give us the bootloader
[Name here], current owner of:
[ ] Xperia X10
[ ] Xperia X10 Mini Pro
[ ] Xperia X10 Mini
[ ] Xperia X8
I would really like if SonyEricsson would set our Xperia phones free, and give us the bootloader
Peter Hansen, current owner of:
[x] Xperia X10
[x] Xperia X10 Mini Pro
[x] Xperia X10 Mini
[x] Xperia X8
good idea, but I still don't get why you used this forum for a petition. There are plenty of petition sites out there
I would really like if SonyEricsson would set our Xperia phones free, and give us the bootloader
[tom hansen], current owner of:
[x ] Xperia X10
Rikard has already stated on the Product Blog that they are not going to do that
Also, when 18k signatures on the Froyo petition went unheard, what makes you think they will look here?
Wouldn't it be better to start it on their blog site?
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Rikard has already stated on the Product Blog that they are not going to do that
Also, when 18k signatures on the Froyo petition went unheard, what makes you think they will look here?
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I was just thinking the same thing lol....a petition doesn't hurt...but at the same time it also doesn't matter.
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I would really like if SonyEricsson would set our Xperia phones free, and give us the bootloader
Ken Ng, current owner of:
[x] Xperia X10
[x] Xperia X8
yeah right like they're going to do that.
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Rikard has already stated on the Product Blog that they are not going to do that
Also, when 18k signatures on the Froyo petition went unheard, what makes you think they will look here?
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See my answer in the first post !
I would really like if SonyEricsson would set our Xperia phones free, and give us the bootloader
, current owner of:
[x] Xperia X10
pshdo said:
Try reading the blog again m8...
He say that the users opinion has a big impact, or at least that was what he said only 2 days ago...;-)
The reason for making the pettition here is that YOU have to be logged in to sign it, not like the blog that anybody can sign 1000 times if they want...
And we can easy link to this forum in the end, to show se the result...
But hey, have you got any place with 18k signatures for this anyway ?
If not then it is just empty talk, so now lets try this for real for a change...
No more empty talk, and no more "what if" questions, lets just try...
Send from my X10, still without 2.1 *&%#
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Umm pretty sure he's referring to these 18700 signatures, which I assume most of us already signed back in May.
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?froyo
Maybe that's where you should set-up your petition. It's a cute thought that they'll release the bootloader (lol yeah right), but it's been asked before and totally rejected. In reality they don't listen to their customers until their sales start to really decline. That's how we'll get their attention with our wallets, unfortunately not through online petitions.
I can't imagine that they'll ever release the bootloader, unless they have a change of CEO and the new guy has a significantly more relaxed attitude about this whole concept.. maybe someone off the board of google could step in and take the job!!
If they do give access to the bootloader, it will be for future models, don't expect it for this phone or previous models.
They have agreements with cell phone service providers that wouldst allow them to do it.
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Rikard has already stated on the Product Blog that they are not going to do that
Also, when 18k signatures on the Froyo petition went unheard, what makes you think they will look here?
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we don't lose anything by trying
Alan Castillo, current owner of:
[x] Xperia X10
besides most of the owners of this phone, don't know anything about OS, that happens here in Mexico
Doesn't hurt to try.. but it would be a better idea for ppl to sign the petition on the product blog cause it'll get noticed there for sure ..
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Even if they "agree" to do so, it would probably take at least a month for them to do so. Let me tell you all a secret. You know why the Xperia X10 has X10 in it? Because everything SE does with this phone takes X10 (10 times) longer than usual.
Also if they agree, don't forget their slogan. Make.Believe.
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I would really like if SonyEricsson would set our Xperia phones free, and give us the bootloader
Doan Allan, current owner of:
[X] Xperia X10
I would really like if SonyEricsson would set our Xperia phones free, and give us the bootloader
Arnold Soriano, current owner of:
[X] Xperia X10
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Rikard has already stated on the Product Blog that they are not going to do that
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+1 from my side..
i really dont think its gonna make any difference. if they are not planing about froyo forget unlocked bootloader... waste of time...really think, threads like these are totally unnecessary.
Finally today i had enough... I filed a formal complaint with the FTC against motorola and all other mobile device manufacturers out lining the cause and effect of these companies selling us devices that we are made to be only users of rather than owners and administrators the devices we purchased. Nothing will change until we make some one step in and set the rules, i am encouraging everyone here on xda to do the same ... here is a link to the example complaint i filed and the link to the appropriate form to be filed
http://t0dbld.blogspot.com/2011/03/my-complaint-to-ftc-on-lock-bootloaders.html
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
Can I still do this as a Canadian Citizen or is it only for Americans?
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Can I still do this as a Canadian Citizen or is it only for Americans?
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could not hurt...
even though I don't own this device anymore I still filed a complaint. Rooting this device is much easier than the HTC Inspire. I hope they listen.
Good luck with this. You'll need it. No sarcasm intended.
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t0dbld, I read your complaint and don't take my comment as negative but your complaint is full of grammatical errors. The case in point about Samsung keylogging has been debunked. But your example is always a possible scenario. AT&T data capping speeds for all phones but the iPhone is something we could mention as crippling.
I'm 100% in favor of unlocking our phones boot loader.
http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/sec/2011/032811sec2.html <-- Samsung false alarm article.
Again, I don't mean any disrespect. I appreciate the developers who help the Android community, especially the Atrix.
Here was my submission:
Motorola makes and sells a device called the Motorola Atrix. They have, in the boot-loader, added a cryptographic signing check that prevents any software not created, and signed by Motorola from executing on the device. I believe this business practice to be monopolistic, and anti-consumer. While modifying the operating system voids any warranty on the device, as a consumer purchasing this device I should have the option to modify, or improve the device in any way I see fit.
In short: Motorola is exhibiting monopolistic business practices by locking the device down and disallowing third party operating system software to be installed.
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Finally today i had enough... I filed a formal complaint with the FTC against motorola and all other mobile device manufacturers out lining the cause and effect of these companies selling us devices that we are made to be only users of rather than owners and administrators the devices we purchased. Nothing will change until we make some one step in and set the rules, i am encouraging everyone here on xda to do the same ... here is a link to the example complaint i filed and the link to the appropriate form to be filed
http://t0dbld.blogspot.com/2011/03/my-complaint-to-ftc-on-lock-bootloaders.html
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
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I smell an april fools setup post.... if not.. everyone remember what day tomorrow is.
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Can I still do this as a Canadian Citizen or is it only for Americans?
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t0dbld, I read your complaint and don't take my comment as negative but your complaint is full of grammatical errors. The case in point about Samsung keylogging has been debunked. But your example is always a possible scenario. AT&T data capping speeds for all phones but the iPhone is something we could mention as crippling.
I'm 100% in favor of unlocking our phones boot loader.
http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/sec/2011/032811sec2.html <-- Samsung false alarm article.
Again, I don't mean any disrespect. I appreciate the developers who help the Android community, especially the Atrix.
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I replied on the blog but i will reply here as will in case you did not read , that is a blog, i am not concenred with errors or anything there, also that was not my EXACT complaint as i did not want it to just get copy and pasted hence taking away from my formal complaint, while i appreciate your support and interest , i do think your time would have better used to file an actual complaint as per my request , rather than writing me a 2 page comment about mine either way good to have you on board, and make sure yours is well written
You should have let me proof that prior to submission. Other than it being way to long, over technical, and demonstrating piss poor English it did actually make some points! No hard feelings bro
The problem is that corporate America will not read our complaints, they simply don't care about anything but their bottom dollar. The bottom dollar is protected by the boot loader. New features? Go buy our new device!
The way I see it, we have two options.
A.) Petition our government to impose regulations and implement new laws to control these corporations and protect our consumer rights. But wait, doesn't our government make a lot of money off this industry in every aspect? How much tax did you pay when you bought your device? Ever look at the taxes on your phone bill? It's rape any way you cut it. It's not the 'sleeping with your girlfriend while she's passed out drunk' rape. It's more like the 'in the alley, behind a dumpster, while it's raining and dark getting raped by an HIV infected ex-con bum' rape. So my point is, the FTC is a government subsidiary and our taxes pay their salerys. We have established that they enjoy to rape us and we pay them to do it. Keep up the complaints, they just might change their outlook on life. For now, I would say option A can be scratched off the list.
B.) Start a revolution. Unite, gather our firearms, cordinate our forces, and take our country back!
Or someone smarter than I could just crack the damn boot loader... That's all i have for now, time to burn one
Submitted complaint
Moved to general as not android development
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I smell an april fools setup post.... if not.. everyone remember what day tomorrow is.
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ummm are you that dense this is not a joke
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You should have let me proof that prior to submission. Other than it being way to long, over technical, and demonstrating piss poor English it did actually make some points! No hard feelings bro
The problem is that corporate America will not read our complaints, they simply don't care about anything but their bottom dollar. The bottom dollar is protected by the boot loader. New features? Go buy our new device!
The way I see it, we have two options.
A.) Petition our government to impose regulations and implement new laws to control these corporations and protect our consumer rights. But wait, doesn't our government make a lot of money off this industry in every aspect? How much tax did you pay when you bought your device? Ever look at the taxes on your phone bill? It's rape any way you cut it. It's not the 'sleeping with your girlfriend while she's passed out drunk' rape. It's more like the 'in the alley, behind a dumpster, while it's raining and dark getting raped by an HIV infected ex-con bum' rape. So my point is, the FTC is a government subsidiary and our taxes pay their salerys. We have established that they enjoy to rape us and we pay them to do it. Keep up the complaints, they just might change their outlook on life. For now, I would say option A can be scratched off the list.
B.) Start a revolution. Unite, gather our firearms, cordinate our forces, and take our country back!
Or someone smarter than I could just crack the damn boot loader... That's all i have for now, time to burn one
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OK nice ridiculous rant , for the last time that was not the EXACT complaint, secondly the FTC is the closest government agency that would have anything to do with this so what do you think we are doing, third please mr 420 hippy do something on your own than, to many times i have been given suggestions by pot smoking liberals with all the answers... yet never once seen them step up to the plate, while my self on the other hand has a long documented court history for the things i believed in and stood up for, i am not against any method of trying to draw attention and get results as this is not about the phone in my hand today but the future of the industry, so please try any method you wish but than do it and than give us your lesson about rape and pot smoke and alleys as the rest of us act with actions.... not long drawn out imaginative story's after "burning one" than dont make any real sense or have any relevance
No not dense, just real. Why would THIS make a difference, the community has been *****ing about bootloaders being locked for ages. Just throw another *****ing complaint in the pile, they don't care. Get a lawyer pack that can combat ATT and/or moto. Are you THAT dense to think you can make a difference. Dont get me wrong I like your spirit and you have an ethos, but not enough money to fix it. sorry face reality.
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No not dense, just real. Why would THIS make a difference, the community has been *****ing about bootloaders being locked for ages. Just throw another *****ing complaint in the pile, they don't care. Get a lawyer pack that can combat ATT and/or moto. Are you THAT dense to think you can make a difference. Dont get me wrong I like your spirit and you have an ethos, but not enough money to fix it. sorry face reality.
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your right.... give up and win, why vote either your vote doesnt count so who cares
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your right.... give up and win, why vote either your vote doesnt count so who cares
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Nice rebuttle. And for the record I vote... right down the middle to maintain chaos, because politics are only good when they don't do anything unless they both parties agree on it. If you dont like the bootloader being locked why buy it? Also why not return it.
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Nice rebuttle. And for the record I vote... right down the middle to maintain chaos, because politics are only good when they don't do anything unless they both parties agree on it. If you dont like the bootloader being locked why buy it? Also why not return it.
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Your missing the point entirely , this is not about my motorola atrix, i could care less and mine will be unlocked sooner than later... this is about the fact that they have no right to make us users on devices that we own, we own it we deserve to have administrative rights as well as the option to load what ever software we want on it... period
Go away, troll
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Your missing the point entirely , this is not about my motorola atrix, i could care less and mine will be unlocked sooner than later... this is about the fact that they have no right to make us users on devices that we own, we own it we deserve to have administrative rights as well as the option to load what ever software we want on it... period
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I end with a quote from Swimming with Sharks (a great kevin spacey movie btw):
"Look, I can appreciate this. I was young too, I felt just like you. Hated authority, hated all my bosses, thought they were full of ****. Look, it's like they say, if you're not a rebel by the age of 20, you got no heart, but if you haven't turned establishment by 30, you've got no brains. Because there are no story-book romances, no fairy-tale endings. So before you run out and change the world, ask yourself, "What do you really want?"
I submitted it.
Everyone please do this it doesn't take any time.
They caught 3 of those idiot anonymous pests. (I call them pest because DoS is not a Hack)
I hope they throw the book at those fools.
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They caught 3 of those idiot anonymous pests. (I call them pest because DoS is not a Hack)
I hope they throw the book at those fools.
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Source of this news>? and what specifically where they 'Caught' Doing ? Related to any ongoing lawsuits or Recent Attacks?
'Anon' is a fairly Broad 'Group' .....
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20070506-83/spain-says-it-has-arrested-anonymous-hackers/
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Thanks for the link
I can (sort of) understand the attack on Sony after the whole GeoHot fiasco & wanting the i.p's of those who downloaded his keys.
But the later attacks on Nintendo and now Codemasters just seems to me like the gaming industry is being unfairly coordinated against as a soft target.
As things stand, they caught three chaps who hosted a chatroom, labelled them as the "leaders" of Anon in Spain and compared them to terrorist bands like ETA. We are not sure if the whole thing is a joke or if they really are so shameless to lie like that.
I read there was evidence on computers. The idiots may not be the leaders but they are part of if and I’m glad they got busted. **** Geohot. The guy can rot in prison for all I care. I have 4 PS3s a PSP and Xperia Play. I have well over 50 PS3 games on BR and purchased every one of them. I paid monthly for PSN Plus and DCUO and could not use either one thanks to those POS cowards. And they sounded gay in their videos. (so did Geohot, probably his boyfriend)
Evidence of what? Anonymous doesn't have leaders, it's a horizontal movement... and anyone with a decently configured Tor can run LOIC and "join Anonymous" in a DDoS. Heck, my own forum got DDoS'd the day before yesterday (260k open sessions, when we have only 350 users ).
http://anonops.blogspot.com/2011/05/lets-be-clear-we-are-legion-but-it.html
I understand that you're angry because the attack stripped you from some of Sony's services (as it did with me) and it's condemnable as it is data theft, but we still don't know who the offenders were. For all we know, it could be the same people as the guys who downloaded that huge data mining torrent with 150M+ FB profiles. And besides, people who tinker with devices are more prone to give you further enjoyment of your device after sale than anything Sony (or any other device vendor) will do for you. The hackers are not the hacks, if you know what I mean.
I can understand wanting to mod there stuff but Sony has a right to fight back against Geo****. Anon had to start with someone. I read (not in the link I posted because I just linked the first one I found after I was asked for it) that they found Dos scripts against Sony servers and others. I also had to get a new CC and change all my CC automatic payments to the new card. It is more than loosing a service I was paying for.
why did you post this in the dev section?
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why did you post this in the dev section?
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What are you talking about?
Not sure why this is posted on the forum whatsoever considering it's nothing to do with the Xperia Play.
Because it has everything to do with Sony and the games I love. I wanted to see what everyone thinks. If you don't like it then don't read or post.
Simple as that.
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And they sounded gay in their videos. (so did Geohot, probably his boyfriend)
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That's not funny or cool to say. A lot of people that sound "gay" are not, and a lot of people that are gay don't sound "gay".
It's just as bad as the stereo-type that all Americans are fat, lazy and full of fast food.
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That's not funny or cool to say. A lot of people that sound "gay" are not, and a lot of people that are gay don't sound "gay".
Is just as bad as the stereo-type that all Americans are fat, lazy and full of fast food.
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They're not? Just kidding
But still, this topic has little to do with the xperia play. It's not a sony device, it doesn;t use services like psn. I come to this forum for xperia play for xperia play things and don't want to go through off topic topics before I find what I want (xperia play stuf). That's why me and others don;t want threads like these, even if we don;t have to read them.
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They're not? Just kidding
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Well, not ALL of them
I kid as well, I love Americans.
All Sony Fanboys will be 'Erked' at Anon and Co. After 3.21. No abilty to Run Other OS on PS3 'Erked' alot of people too.. Myself Included.
So when Sony Removed this option. whatelse is there to do ? Crack the System and Make these things accesable to those who want it.. Its Still a Minority.
So why be so upset about people Cracking Sony Devices .. Do you Feel modding/Cracking/Rooting/Jailbreaking Phones is wrong too ?
While i dont agree with the attack on PSN Network , to say Geohotz should rot in jail is a bit goofy to me . Was he involved in this attack ?
People Like to Tinker. This is Life.
i opened this topic expecting some awesome xplay news, since y'know its in the xplay forums and all.
totally dissapointed.
why does this need discussed anyway?
pointless topic is pointless.
havokk said:
i opened this topic expecting some awesome xplay news, since y'know its in the xplay forums and all.
totally dissapointed.
why does this need discussed anyway?
pointless topic is pointless.
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Lol people posting to say its pointless and bump it in the process... Oops
The topic was actually quite on top of the topic list in this thread so no/little bump. But you can make a point clear to users that topics like these are unwanted in these boards.
xperiablog.net/2011/10/19/sony-ericsson-forces-us-to-close-xperiablog-net/
Sony Ericsson forces us to close XperiaBlog.net
by XB on October 19, 2011
in News
It is with great sadness that we have to bring you the news that this will be the last post on this website. Sony Ericsson has filed a formal complaint about the use of the trademarked ‘Xperia’ name in our domain name and have requested that the domain names, including that of XperiaX10.net, be transferred to them.
Sony Ericsson is alleging that we have used the domain names in “bad faith”. We are stunned and disappointed that Sony Ericsson, a company that we have spent much of our free personal time in promoting, especially the Xperia brand, has decided to take this formal action against us. After all we are just like you, passionate Sony Ericsson users, who have strived to bring the community breaking news and an independent viewpoint.
We do not have the resources to fight Sony Ericsson on this and therefore this is the last you will hear from us. Sony Ericsson has made great strides in its Xperia portfolio, especially in listening to the community. This makes it all the more confusing as to why Sony Ericsson would want to shut us down. We genuinely believe that 2012 could be a bumper year for the company, we just wish we could have been there along for the ride.
All the best.
Tej
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this is really sad, they were the blog i always went to to get the latest info! Shame Sony Ericsson!
Shame Sony Ericsson!
That's bad, I hope they open up a new site.
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Thats utterly shocking, why support developers and custom rom makers on xda then go and force others with the same ideas and in my view not using the xperia name wrongly at all, quite the opposite infact, shame on sony ericsson indeed
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Technically SE is correct, Xperia is their trade mark that they have registered no one is supposed to use it. But it's really bad that they are asking to shutdown after having such a success with the blog. If they had a problem with the blog they should told them when they started it.
Yeah i agree from a legal point of view it is very understandable, what SE could have done is taken control of the domains and the blog but kept the starter of the blog and others as moderators, that way they get their xperia name not being misused by unauthorised people but still have the blog going, plus consumers would still be happy as we would still have our beloved blog
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Shame to SE for being hard on their fan base. But, legally can they do this? What if XperiaBlog is claimed as one word?
LOL! After 12 years of worship to Ericsson - SE it's the first time that I say and I mean that I'm going Samsung! Enough with the SE bull$hit! Galaxy nexus!! Here I come!!!! :-D
PS: Screw u SE!! $%#*
Lancerfq said:
Yeah i agree from a legal point of view it is very understandable, what SE could have done is taken control of the domains and the blog but kept the starter of the blog and others as moderators, that way they get their xperia name not being misused by unauthorised people but still have the blog going, plus consumers would still be happy as we would still have our beloved blog
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XperiaBlog has also written some critical posts about updates for the X10 etc. I don't think SE appreciated that.
Another bad turn when the site posted the comparison between Arc S and iPhone 4S when it should've just let the Chinese community handle it...
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Another bad turn when the site posted the comparison between Arc S and iPhone 4S when it should've just let the Chinese community handle it...
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Sorry, I did not understand what you meant?
batman_112 said:
Sorry, I did not understand what you meant?
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SE is always sensitive to what sites put down about their product. When you put out something that may reflect negatively, which it did against the Arc S in the camera comparison, it's not a surprised result. Since the site is also using Xperia in its name and actually damaging it's reputation (may be not alot, but it still does). Think about a scenario where I want to know more about the product. I found the site, oh hey, it has Xperia in it. Seems like a good site to find out good reviews. You step in, and you find criticism on it. Would you have a good impression on the product? I've worked on many club sites under SE, and many were closed down for the same reason.
Sites like Mobile-Review was also abandoned for the same reason, alot of premature conclusions and no filtering to what is posted. Not that I want press to censor their opinions, but some opinions/assertions were far from true.
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SE is always sensitive to what sites put down about their product. When you put out something that may reflect negatively, which it did against the Arc S in the camera comparison, it's not a surprised result. Since the site is also using Xperia in its name and actually damaging it's reputation (may be not alot, but it still does). Think about a scenario where I want to know more about the product. I found the site, oh hey, it has Xperia in it. Seems like a good site to find out good reviews. You step in, and you find criticism on it. Would you have a good impression on the product? I've worked on many club sites under SE, and many were closed down for the same reason.
Sites like Mobile-Review was also abandoned for the same reason, alot of premature conclusions and no filtering to what is posted. Not that I want press to censor their opinions, but some opinions/assertions were far from true.
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Aha, I see you what you mean.
Why not keep the site going just change the name just enough so no legal action can be taken
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thatsupnow said:
Why not keep the site going just change the name just enough so no legal action can be taken
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yeahh it's easy and legit
thatsupnow said:
Why not keep the site going just change the name just enough so no legal action can be taken
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Changing the name of the site would be easy but SE wants the domain name. Setting up another website with the same content would be time consuming and a major pain in the arse.
It's a shame considering all the effort they've put in maintaining it and updating it with the latest info.
And it's not like they were cyber-squatters or anything.
I don't think that stories like
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/09/0...2-with-1-5ghz-dual-core-4-3-inch-720p-screen/
or
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/10/1...icsson-walkman-w23i-with-dual-core-processor/
were perceived with pleasure over at SE's HQs... Still a shame though.
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Think about a scenario where I want to know more about the product. I found the site, oh hey, it has Xperia in it. Seems like a good site to find out good reviews. You step in, and you find criticism on it. Would you have a good impression on the product? I've worked on many club sites under SE, and many were closed down for the same reason.
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Actually this is what happened to me when I first started looking for xperia info some time ago, I thought it was an official site so I was surprised to read some of the posts.
For that reason I can understand why SE have taken this action. On the other hand, theres no reason why xperiablog cannot start up under a fresh name, if they have so many followers already it wont be so hard to spread the word.
They could, but from my knowledge, there are 2 reasons they're demanding the close. First is to prevent any damage to their brand from the site, and the other is to demand the xperiablog domain. I'm sure xperiablog.com will be popping up soon from them, which they have the authority to do since the word "xperia" is their's to begin with. So to prevent any confusions for people who hit SHIFT+ENTER instead of CTRL+ENTER wouldn't be redirected to the wrong site.
Hi all,
It is getting to my attention that most Z1 users are displeased with the Unlock Btl Camera issue. I have now created a petition to show how upset we are at their lack of action towards this issue.
There are rumours circulating that Sony already as a fix to the issue, but is reluctant to release it, due to allowing the camera config becoming of public knowledge (therefore other roms being able to copy it), this has not been confirmed or denied, so the petition does not run under this assumption.
I take pride in the camera of my smartphone but I do like to modify my phone as much as possible.
So please I urge you to sign the petition below:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/xperia-z1-unlocked-bootloader-issue
If you know of other communities, please spread the word.
The body of the petition can be modified, If I get enough people voting on a better text!
marcyff2 said:
As it has come to my attention it is possible that Sony already as a fix to the issue, but is reluctant to release it, due to allowing the camera config becoming of public knowledge (therefore other roms being able to copy it).
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Do you have a source for the underlined bit or is it speculation ?
The above has now been corrected.
I want to bring to Sony's attention that we want the issue resolved and not that we/I believe that Sony doesn't want to fix it.
That's what copyright is for (outside of China), a good way for Sony to make some money if people copy. Like Samsung and Apple feuds
The link is not working for me
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The link is not working for me
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Are you getting a 404 error? Where are you based?
That's what copyright is for (outside of China), a good way for Sony to make some money if people copy.
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I would guess companies as big as this have patent disputes. But has every year happens Apple and Samsung are always on the court for those, because the money they make from phones, far surpasses the amount spent on courts, therefore making patent disputes irrelevant. I think, if and only if the rumors are true, that Sony is trying to avoid being involved in those.
Very good idea!
Everybody should sign this.
Why is there a donation link with a minimum of $2 in the petition? Don't see the point in it, besides to make money.
Simply ignore it, your petition is alredy there.
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