[discuss] Anonymous members caught! - Xperia Play General

They caught 3 of those idiot anonymous pests. (I call them pest because DoS is not a Hack)
I hope they throw the book at those fools.

ncaissie said:
They caught 3 of those idiot anonymous pests. (I call them pest because DoS is not a Hack)
I hope they throw the book at those fools.
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Source of this news>? and what specifically where they 'Caught' Doing ? Related to any ongoing lawsuits or Recent Attacks?
'Anon' is a fairly Broad 'Group' .....

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20070506-83/spain-says-it-has-arrested-anonymous-hackers/

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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20070506-83/spain-says-it-has-arrested-anonymous-hackers/
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Thanks for the link

I can (sort of) understand the attack on Sony after the whole GeoHot fiasco & wanting the i.p's of those who downloaded his keys.
But the later attacks on Nintendo and now Codemasters just seems to me like the gaming industry is being unfairly coordinated against as a soft target.

As things stand, they caught three chaps who hosted a chatroom, labelled them as the "leaders" of Anon in Spain and compared them to terrorist bands like ETA. We are not sure if the whole thing is a joke or if they really are so shameless to lie like that.

I read there was evidence on computers. The idiots may not be the leaders but they are part of if and I’m glad they got busted. **** Geohot. The guy can rot in prison for all I care. I have 4 PS3s a PSP and Xperia Play. I have well over 50 PS3 games on BR and purchased every one of them. I paid monthly for PSN Plus and DCUO and could not use either one thanks to those POS cowards. And they sounded gay in their videos. (so did Geohot, probably his boyfriend)

Evidence of what? Anonymous doesn't have leaders, it's a horizontal movement... and anyone with a decently configured Tor can run LOIC and "join Anonymous" in a DDoS. Heck, my own forum got DDoS'd the day before yesterday (260k open sessions, when we have only 350 users ).
http://anonops.blogspot.com/2011/05/lets-be-clear-we-are-legion-but-it.html
I understand that you're angry because the attack stripped you from some of Sony's services (as it did with me) and it's condemnable as it is data theft, but we still don't know who the offenders were. For all we know, it could be the same people as the guys who downloaded that huge data mining torrent with 150M+ FB profiles. And besides, people who tinker with devices are more prone to give you further enjoyment of your device after sale than anything Sony (or any other device vendor) will do for you. The hackers are not the hacks, if you know what I mean.

I can understand wanting to mod there stuff but Sony has a right to fight back against Geo****. Anon had to start with someone. I read (not in the link I posted because I just linked the first one I found after I was asked for it) that they found Dos scripts against Sony servers and others. I also had to get a new CC and change all my CC automatic payments to the new card. It is more than loosing a service I was paying for.

why did you post this in the dev section?

m3dteam said:
why did you post this in the dev section?
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What are you talking about?

Not sure why this is posted on the forum whatsoever considering it's nothing to do with the Xperia Play.

Because it has everything to do with Sony and the games I love. I wanted to see what everyone thinks. If you don't like it then don't read or post.
Simple as that.

ncaissie said:
And they sounded gay in their videos. (so did Geohot, probably his boyfriend)
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That's not funny or cool to say. A lot of people that sound "gay" are not, and a lot of people that are gay don't sound "gay".
It's just as bad as the stereo-type that all Americans are fat, lazy and full of fast food.

speedyink said:
That's not funny or cool to say. A lot of people that sound "gay" are not, and a lot of people that are gay don't sound "gay".
Is just as bad as the stereo-type that all Americans are fat, lazy and full of fast food.
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They're not? Just kidding
But still, this topic has little to do with the xperia play. It's not a sony device, it doesn;t use services like psn. I come to this forum for xperia play for xperia play things and don't want to go through off topic topics before I find what I want (xperia play stuf). That's why me and others don;t want threads like these, even if we don;t have to read them.

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They're not? Just kidding
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Well, not ALL of them
I kid as well, I love Americans.

All Sony Fanboys will be 'Erked' at Anon and Co. After 3.21. No abilty to Run Other OS on PS3 'Erked' alot of people too.. Myself Included.
So when Sony Removed this option. whatelse is there to do ? Crack the System and Make these things accesable to those who want it.. Its Still a Minority.
So why be so upset about people Cracking Sony Devices .. Do you Feel modding/Cracking/Rooting/Jailbreaking Phones is wrong too ?
While i dont agree with the attack on PSN Network , to say Geohotz should rot in jail is a bit goofy to me . Was he involved in this attack ?
People Like to Tinker. This is Life.

i opened this topic expecting some awesome xplay news, since y'know its in the xplay forums and all.
totally dissapointed.
why does this need discussed anyway?
pointless topic is pointless.

havokk said:
i opened this topic expecting some awesome xplay news, since y'know its in the xplay forums and all.
totally dissapointed.
why does this need discussed anyway?
pointless topic is pointless.
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Lol people posting to say its pointless and bump it in the process... Oops

The topic was actually quite on top of the topic list in this thread so no/little bump. But you can make a point clear to users that topics like these are unwanted in these boards.

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All S2 Applications development suspended... but...

As you all know, all S2 applications are freeware. That is, they cannot be sold for any purpose and it's stated clearly in the attached license file.
However, it's found some guys do repeatly sell them through eBay or their own websites. For eBay, I have to submit an individual email to eBay when a suspicious listing is found. That's really time-wasting.
Recently, I came across this website: www.iphonethemeforppc.com. I asked the website owner to remove S2U2, but he simply declined.
I'm totally sick of them.
So, I'll suspend the development of any S2 applications until there is any good sign of changes.
Anyway, thanks all for your support. Take care.
Update: 11-Sep
Got the reply from iphonethemeforppc
We do not sell S2U2! We offer it as an optional free download from our
site just as most of the other sites on the web.
When you purchase the iphone theme you will download a zip file that is
an html file and a Cab file with all the wisbar theme addons and a txt
file. This is NOT the S2U2 files and we do not sell your software. I
already said this once so get it straight!
We don’t believe in selling copyright software and we don’t endorse it!
Now if you want to know who I believe is doing it wrong look at this
site: http://www.web-resort.com/. They actually have it included in
their download package!
With that being said, We don’t have a problem re-wording our site if
that makes you feel better, but we are NOT selling your software.
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But up till now, S2U2 is still posted on this website with screenshots & wordings like "Features"...
Here is the reply from another beggar at web-resort.com:
we are not selling S2U2 as it is a free application as stated on our
website.
Please read the part of our Warranty Disclaimer relative to freeware:
"...THIS PACKAGE IS DEVELOPED MIXING TOGETHER FREE SOFTWARE. BUYING THIS
PACKAGE YOU BUY THE "KNOWLEDGE", "TIME" SPENT SEARCHING FREE SOFTWARE,
PUTTING IT TOGHETER, "TESTING" AND FINALLY "FINDING A RELIABLE SOLUTION".
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It's even worser that it's selling the whole series of S2...
So, I have to keep on suspending the development. Take care.
Update: 17-Sep
I must say thanks all for your support & feedback. I'll think seriously about every suggestion you've posted here but I have not made up my mind yet. So please forgive me for the lack of update of any S2 apps in the near future.
Take care... I'll be back...
Update: 3-Oct
I've just set up a website... http://www.ac-s2.com
I'm still waiting for some legal advice... so please stay tuned...
Update: 21-Oct
I'm back... http://www.ac-s2.com
Smh. This is terrible.
Oh no..
Some people really have no shame nowadays..
its really unfair that pple try to sell someone elses hard work....
but isnt there a copyright issue??? iphonethemeforppc cant just say no cuz its against the law
Too bad XDA doesn't have a pro-bono lawyer for **** like this.
Very bad News. :-(
I love your Applications
But on other side i understand your handling. It's hard work from you and other make the money.
For anyone who is doing this.. you should be ashamed. I hope if anyone finds these people in these forums to ban them and their IP.
Sad
Well, this is really sad, you had really something !
But I understand...
there must be a way to pursue them.. after all it's your product
i really hate those basta*d who make money on this great app. what a shame.
a_c, how about starting to commercialize s2 series? i'll buy lisence from you.
Banning is not enough. Anybody remember how Jay and Silent Bob handled the negative movie reviews?
**Music***How many people wanna kick some @$$***Music**
I make light of the subject, but really. If you're douchebag enough to steal someone else's work and sell it as your own, you deserve nothing betther than to have the 5#17 kicked out of you. No stupid sentencing, no community service or refund money, just hefty fines and ass-whoopin's. Simple as that.
This is ****. Many people do not remember what they havoc with what they do. But thank you for everything and I hope you change your mind yet.
hope this idot seen what he's done what is wrong with these people...sorry to see that you have stop A_c ....you made such great apps. for us ,now some jackass killed it .Hope he gets sued by some customer that comes accross a bug that i know he can't fix
BTW i noticed that the price is in $US again with the americans looking to make an easy buck... samething happened in the hearld fourm a while back with the touch IT roms and the guy apologized for doing it.... WTF how sorry can you be when your counting the money you made off someone elses work to hell with these guys ****ing basterds
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Too bad XDA doesn't have a pro-bono lawyer for **** like this.
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-1 VERY BAD
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
please dont stop A C..... i use all your apps religiously!!!!
its a shame that people will stoop that low!!!!!
Bad news,
but i would buy a license of you, too
wow..thats ****ed up!
cp_kirkley said:
Banning is not enough. Anybody remember how Jay and Silent Bob handled the negative movie reviews?
**Music***How many people wanna kick some @$$***Music**
I make light of the subject, but really. If you're douchebag enough to steal someone else's work and sell it as your own, you deserve nothing betther than to have the 5#17 kicked out of you. No stupid sentencing, no community service or refund money, just hefty fines and ass-whoopin's. Simple as that.
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+1 for this..
thanks for all You hard work A_C. I was really hoping for future developement of Your s2v app, but it is Your choice and I respect it.
see... this is situation without solution to be honest. If You would decide to sell Your apps, then they would become even more populare on warez sites.
crap. hopefully in next few weeks/months some failure @ CERN will put a definitive end to all this madness.
br
bro
Is this guy trying to sell crack copies of wisbar as well? if so lakeridge software may also have something to say about his $10 offer.
Thanks AC for all you've done, don't let the fools get you down, it's just because your work is so damn good!

WAREZ everywhere... and even here

I used to confuse this forum with a decent place for technical discussion of technical issues related to HTC devices, this illusion was short lived People are just casually dropping links to warez and no one seems to care! no moderation whatsoever. Take this example: A rigged license file for the most marvelous software ever for Windows mobile: Igo8 was put two months ago here. I complained quite clearly, and requested moderators for action in the respective thread here. No action whatsoever! Now look at this glorious post in the same thread here, the whole rigged software is available for your kind usage. It seems there is no stopping!
Please understand my harsh tone has a deeper reason. I am quite sure that this is the only reason why windows mobile is taking such strong bashing from iphone.... such a mature platform taking beating from a newborn! The reason is: developers get a few bucks in return of there hard work for iphone, while for windows mobile ppl just run for the rigged versions everywhere. If software developers are not paid back their hard-earned money, they will just look away, stop developing for windows, now that they have a much viable alternate like iphone and others. We all have to think about this! This is a doomsday scenario for WM.
Best regards!
if you havent heard, the jailbroken iphones have a program called Installer...where they get all the apps for free too just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents ... i just dont see the reason why it would bother you, it's neither one of our faults, its the way the website monitors their threads ... no need to make a whole new thread bashing the website
elite-fusion said:
if you havent heard, the jailbroken iphones have a program called Installer...where they get all the apps for free too just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents ... i just dont see the reason why it would bother you, it's neither one of our faults, its the way the website monitors their threads ... no need to make a whole new thread bashing the website
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Thats not the point... and the purpose of this thread isn’t "bashing" this forum. The point is, we here should not facilitate the downward spiral windows mobile is in right now, we should have strict action against it at least within the discussions here. I know about iphone jail breaking, but its ease and availability is no where close to WM... iphone app developers are really earning money, the proof of this pudding is in eating. Just last year, we all were laughing at iphone not having an SDK. Now, if i try to google an app for my WM, the search return iphone app instead!
Deep Breath.......
waqarz said:
Thats not the point... etc,etc,etc !
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When I first started to read your initial post I thought - Hear we go, another over exaggerated claim and a rant about how poorly the site is managed.... but as I finished reading I thought "Yep" your at least partly right - there's far more "abuse" of the forum and site now in many ways than there was a year ago - not just on the Warez front either - So I'm very much with you there and in support of your "general" comments.... However....
Membership of XDA Developers has rocketed in the past 12 months (or so it seems????) as has the activity and number of posts/comments/hits per day - and not just in this section but in many others.... which is of course a good thing - but..... with all the extra traffic and all the extra members so the "unwanted" aspects also experientially increase - and "OUR" moderators have far more to monitor and try to manage (as well as helping out and offering advice themselves when they can) and this is the part you seem to have missed as others often do - the moderators are NOT paid - its something they do because they want to and because they can.....
I would actively encourage you, and ALL other members to continue to report abuse of the site and on the forums and to actively discourage other members by highlighting (as you have) inappropriate behaviour so we can self regulate as much as possible.
Of course, if the moderators have time and the inclination to step in and take action then that’s great, if not - then lets help by policing ourselves and offering offenders (quite often misguided I'm sure) some friendly but firm advice - if its ignored then what more can we do.
Deep Breath.......
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"the downward spiral windows mobile is in right now"
Dear Don Quixote, i beg to differ. The """downward""" spiral is becoase of crappy operating system and warez has nothing to do with it. And well, iphone is trendy :lol: I dont condone warez but i am organically alergic to more-god-than-god people like you.
And stop annoying people here, go to the kindergarten and yell "new torrent tracker". You will be amazed how many kids will turn around.
waqarz said:
I used to confuse this forum with a decent place for technical discussion of technical issues related to HTC devices, this illusion was short lived People are just casually dropping links to warez and no one seems to care! no moderation whatsoever. Take this example: A rigged license file for the most marvelous software ever for Windows mobile: Igo8 was put two months ago here. I complained quite clearly, and requested moderators for action in the respective thread here. No action whatsoever! Now look at this glorious post in the same thread here, the whole rigged software is available for your kind usage. It seems there is no stopping!
Please understand my harsh tone has a deeper reason. I am quite sure that this is the only reason why windows mobile is taking such strong bashing from iphone.... such a mature platform taking beating from a newborn! The reason is: developers get a few bucks in return of there hard work for iphone, while for windows mobile ppl just run for the rigged versions everywhere. If software developers are not paid back their hard-earned money, they will just look away, stop developing for windows, now that they have a much viable alternate like iphone and others. We all have to think about this! This is a doomsday scenario for WM.
Best regards!
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The best you can do to help stopping this is to report the post or member clicking on the report symbol next to the post #, or post it in spam section here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306366&page=22
That way Mods can take an action.
There are so many threads that is difficult to monitor all
If you have a problem
use the report button, we are here to help.
we can't be everywhere so you need to tell us so we can act.
thank you.
liamhere said:
use the report button, we are here to help.
we can't be everywhere so you need to tell us so we can act.
thank you.
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Thanks, I really should have used the "report" link, my bad!
I really do appreciate all the volunteer work being done here by moderators and other resonable members. I myself moderate a few forums, not as large as this though and to some extend I know the toll. All, keep up the good work!
I still have a suggestion, members doing strict violation of policy should be warned and later banned!
Best regards.
waqarz said:
I still have a suggestion, members doing strict violation of policy should be warned and later banned!
Best regards.
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Nah just electrocute them first, warn them if they recover.
fards said:
Nah just electrocute them first, warn them if they recover.
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Good one
waqarz said:
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I am quite sure that this is the only reason why windows mobile is taking such strong bashing from iphone.... such a mature platform taking beating from a newborn! The reason is: developers get a few bucks in return of there hard work for iphone, while for windows mobile ppl just run for the rigged versions everywhere. If software developers are not paid back their hard-earned money, they will just look away, stop developing for windows, now that they have a much viable alternate like iphone and others. We all have to think about this! This is a doomsday scenario for WM...
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as someone else already did
i must disagree with you on one point, why WinMo "...is taking such strong bashing from..." iPhone
it has nothing to do with Warez, your argument seems uninformed and almost sounds like bashing
Using the iPhone for any length of time you'll realize just how much time was put into the user experience, no manual, no class, just pick up and use. WinMo had thought behind it's design, but it was designed about a decade ago, to be used with a stylus. As is it's hopelessly outdated in look and feel (Windows 3.1 anyone, that's mature too by now)
As for the reason it seams that developers do better on the iPhone it's the same thing; thought. Thought put into the experience of using the AppStore. no serial headaches, integration, updates, and backup - just works. Like iTunes it's just easy to use for average people, Handago (or whatever is compatible with AppStore) is NOT easy.
Ignoring the needs of users and no real innovation from Redmond is doomsday for WinMo. Not Warez (which, as mentioned exist for the iPhone too, and it's this easy).
P.S. never had an Apple product, but if iPhone had Copy & Paste i'd own one now, not the HD
P.P.S. there is somewhat of a backlash in the Apple community against quality control, bad developers, and no "try before you buy" in the AppStore. if interested please read here then here.
The only thing why Iphone have so many Apps (and good apps) is the Appstore (one place for all apps), and the Hype. And ofcourse its only 1 device, with 1 displaysize, 1 processor and 1 input type.
On WM we got several desplaysizes, devices, processors and input types.
Its much more easy and cheaply to develope for 1 device than for thousands.
If we get also a appstore i am really safe that we get more good apps and games for our WM Devices.
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I think delevopers do a hard job and develope good apps, and we shall donate to them. I work for a big software company and also hate warez. Warez is not good, but do not exaggerate nevertheless times! I do not think that here possibly someone such things with intention.
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Sorry for my bad english.
Sir.B said:
as someone else already did
i must disagree with you on one point, why WinMo "...is taking such strong bashing from..." iPhone
it has nothing to do with Warez, your argument seems uninformed and almost sounds like bashing
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You cant be serious right? Go through these 3 articles, just the first 3 hits on google:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6459.html
http://www.fiercedeveloper.com/report/mobile-pda-software-piracy-and-warez
http://apcmag.com/windows_mobile_6_pirated.htm
Take one example: just over the last year, hundreds of thousands of people have illegally shared navigation maps, a conservative estimate of loss is in millions of dollars.
I an NOT claiming piracy is the only problem with WM, but it sure is a BIG contributor, this is my only point in this discussion. The reasons and implications are many and I cant go into details. I really feel sorry, my own mistake, dropping in the word "iphone" always ends up in a useless debate! Many threads here being trashed because of this.
Best regards.

Howard Stern on Android

Figured I would share, in case some didn't know. I've been using Droidlive lite to stream Stern on shoutcast. There's a dozen channels on shoutcast that loop Stern. Totally free, totally sweet. A lot easier than when I had a bberry. Too bad I paid for an account at the beginning of summertime.
Sprint hero
Fresh 1.1
Nexus bootscreen
16g Sd card
Amon Ra 1.5.2.
Sweet, thanks for pointing that out, I have been looking for such an app for a while.
i used to do this online a while back, i found out its easier to just download them after someone caps the show and just move it over to the mem card and you are able to pause it and no commercials. u can use any of the music streamers though if you want to hear it live, i tried it with streamfusion like 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I never found too good of a download source. Be nice id you could record straight from streaming app in the phone.
didnt his co host just try and kill him self the other day ??? whats his name artie or somthing like that
I must have.missed that one. He's got some serious issues though. They said he was getting help.
Alex Jones is on shoutcast also. Listening to alex might actually cause some people to think and act like decent human beings and pay attention to whats going on around them, so beware. Listening to stern will turn you into a zombie. oh by the way, "tunewiki" does shoutcast.
yea artie tried to off himself, he stabbed himself 5-6 times i think, 3 were serious. stabbing yourself to death is RAW, i couldnt do it. but yea, i know people hate stern, i just listen to him purely for comedic purposes.
Wow, that's f'ed up.
I don't hate stern, just that to much nonsense will turn you into a....zombie. Was a fan of stern for years but if you haven't noticed we're being sold into slavery at a staggering pace. For real everyone should give jones a listen, and while you're at it visit a few good websites also... infowars.com, wearechange.org, liberty4free.com. Get your news from alternative sources like the drudgereport.com, mainstream media is there to lie to you and keep you in line.
Yeah no thanks, not into radical bs. Jones is a zealot who hates all but white Christian males. The world has enough issues without listening to fear and hatemongers. Those people prey on the poor, and uneducated. I use to listen to all that crappy when I was young, angry, and blaming everyone else for my problems. Then I grew up.
well unfortunately from your statement I know u've never looked into any of what he talks about. if u actually educated yourelf on the american gov's slaughter of millions, and the control they are attempting to get over allllll of us, not just white males, then u'd b angry to. just go to liberty4free.com and watch the documentaries on ruby ridge and waco, if that doesn't make u angry, then u sir are a zombie. Look up the article the info czar just release, he's actually advocating thought crimes! hello 1984, maybe u should read it. also watch "freedom to facism" by aaron russo. that would be a good start to your so called education. People who stand up for human rights are not radicals. the radicals are the ones trying to oppress those who do. "those who prey on the poor" u mean like the banksters who just stole trillions of dollars from you and I?
http://ic2.pbase.com/o6/54/14154/1/83230527.Hehstghw.PaghmanBeforeAfter.jpg kabul 40 years ago and today, yeah u should b angry.
Just make sure u don't miss american idol!!!
Not into that either, thanks anyway.
Case and point. Don't worry people like me are still here to defend your right to b ignorant.
You're a. douche, and know nothing about me. Go back to hole you crawled out of. I love how all you fanatics think people are ignorant, just because they're not into your radical bs. Mods, freel free to delete this thread, its been hijacked by an idiot.
Mods feel free to censor the most important thread on here
educate yourself please thats all I ask.
Here's a link to "America: Freedom to Fascism" by Aaron Russo (RIP) if anyone is interested. Director of trading places with Eddie Murphy among other things. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173#

Just to let everyone something to think about...

Read this link. Read it carefully. It's not just about Google being able to run whatever code they like on your devices, it's about Google DOING it, remotely, without any user intervention/confirmation.
What's next ? Let me throw some wild and far fetched guesses...
* Applanet like apps being killed off on the devices to fight piracy...
* Anything not from the market being wiped out from time to time, for the same reason...
* Users are hunted down and being prosecuted for piracy based on their devices content...
* The system is rigged/updated to block inappropriate content, such as pedophile sites...
* Users are being prosecuted for possessing and/or visiting inappropriate content/providers...
* The "inappropriate" extends to warez sites and regular porn sites, "bad" users are still prosecuted...
* The "inappropriate" extend to the "wrong" political sites, "bad" users are still prosecuted...
* .......
I bet you get the idea. And yea, i know i am taking it too far, but still
PS: Let me add something... the builds we are running on our HD2 are often partially illegal (gaps) etc... hint hint
maybe a little paranoid, ok, well maybe a lot
InfX said:
* The system is rigged/updated to block inappropriate content, such as pedophile sites...
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not sure why you mentioned this, anyone in their right mind would welcome this particular point.
kam333 said:
maybe a little paranoid, ok, well maybe a lot
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A lot, exaggerated to the max, of course. But that doesn't turn what Google does right.
kam333 said:
not sure why you mentioned this, anyone in their right mind would welcome this particular point.
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Thats EXACTLY why i mentioned it.
InfX said:
A lot, exaggerated to the max, of course. But that doesn't turn what Google does right.
Thats EXACTLY why i mentioned it.
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personally, i think google already knows tooooo much about its users, but in the case of malware, google is definitely the lesser of the 2 evils
let me ask you this, would you rather the big G have some remote access to your device or hackers collecting your personal info. Its the connected world, there's no turning back!!!
only real solution for anyone worried about companies interfering with their device... remove the sim card... for ever.
gnight & dont have nightmares
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would you rather the big G have some remote access to your device or hackers collecting your personal info.
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Guess what... neither of those
Also, there are terrorists under the bed,chemtrails in the sky, bromine in the water,drug dealers at the school gates, drunks on fones in cars, bondage freaks at work,human traffickers, religious zealots bent coppers paedo nursery workers racists fanatics and plain clothes Google operatives spreading FUD in forums cos its cheaper and gets more results than million pound lawsuits. Oh and bloody clowns.
Just a random outpouring,please continue.
Infx may sound paranoid, and no person of any kind of moral decency would condone anbody using pedophelia porn or any other form of content that causes any kind of harm to anyone. But those are matters for the authorities to deal with, not google. If the internet's morality policies were enforced by a huge internet based company, wouldn't that be considered some kind of a conflict of interests somehow? I mean imagine if Disney were the biggest internet company, we'd never see so much as a single cuss-word or titty. Big companies shouldn't be able to impose their own commercialized morals upon users, the internet will inevitably grow more and more watered down. I don't consider myself a paranoid person, but this type of issue stinks of denial of 1st amendment rights, one step closer to completely government/corporate filtered news-tainment, and corporate control of the masses.
Huggs, i totally agree, thata why i posted this, not because i am actualluly that paranoid (would i still use Internet if i was ?). What i tried to do in my post is to demonstrate a worst case scenario, how would google start with somethimg that should be totally accepted by everyone (fighting pedophily) yet slowly move to fighting things we no longer want it to fight (political opinions).
PS: This little remote control thing is the first step for a corporate giant to become a corporate government, a corporate dictator. And the onlu things corporations care for is money, not their users.
PPS: Just my personal opinion, feel free to disagree.
I like that idea: http://code.google.com/p/open-android-alliance/
InfX said:
Guess what... neither of those
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you really dont have a great deal of options
android, rim, ios & wp7 all have the ability to "spy" on their users to some degree,
mostly its just basic info such as: gps location, installed apps & how often they're used, crash logs, etc
some apps on ios have been caught out sending even more personal data. The point is, whilst i dont disagree fully with your concerns, i do see your post as somewhat hysterical.
There was no suggestion in the article you linked (or any other that ive read) that google is planning any of things you mentioned, so why mention them, as doing so only makes you a part of the current media trend of FUD as samsamuel put it.
this isnt about deny that all companies are in it 1st for the £$€, then customer welfare further down the list, im talking about being realistic. at this moment in time i cannot see google taking the path that you suggested, i also have far more immediate and real life things to focus on.
im all for a good conspiracy theory, fema detention camps springing up all over the usa (REX 84), the western so called "powers" planting the seeds of unrest in africa & the middle east so they can insert more puppets to secure natural resources (be it oil, gold, diamonds...), i could go on, but this isnt the place.
so let bring it back to google, you are in denial if you think cyber crime isnt going on, and with the rise of the smartphones we will see a rise of cyber crims trying to gain access. so i ask again who would you rather have access to your device?
if you still think or say neither, il know for sure you have lost the plot or you have taken my advice & binned your sim card cause thats the only other option you have.
@huggs, normally your post are quite informative & rational, that last post wasnt imho
no one was talking about censorship, the 1 point about google blocking access to child porn is something i would vote for, this has nothing to do with internet policing, you say thats down to the authorities, but they are not all seeing (no yet anyway) hence the use of informants by law enforcement the world wide, n thats all i would support. yes its possible that you give them a small mandate they will take it further but il worry about that IF the signs arise.
ppl who get there kick this way should have no rights, & should be actively hunted by whatever methods are available & taken out of the general population.
P.S.
Man i would love to have such a care free life that i need to start imagining then stressing about what may or may not happen, but i dont, my concerns are here & now, What you are talking about ISNT.
sorry for the lengthy post but your suggestions/posts are a subtle form of propaganda and a 1 line response really wouldn't cut it.
all the best
Kam
I say if we are doing something wrong and get caught that's our own fault.
How is it illegal? Isn't android open license ie freeware?
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@kam333, i may be way less paranoid than you may think, mind the fact i've posted this as a VERY far-fetched and unrealistic speculation that only got slim to nil chance of actually happening, but it does demonstrate a possibility of undoubtedly good things becoming a base to slowly advance into nasty control-it-all direction. And, yea, your suggestion about binning the SIM card won't work. I still got WiFi
@dung8604, search the net about why Cyanogen mod no longer includes Google apps.
Well, I'm running a cooked rom without a Google account set up. So I can cross that off of the paranoid list.
I can't say I'm surprised by anything written in the article.
Did a quick search and from what i can tell, only Google apps are proprietary. Nothing about the OS itself though
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Sony Ericsson demands XperiaBlog.net to close.

xperiablog.net/2011/10/19/sony-ericsson-forces-us-to-close-xperiablog-net/
Sony Ericsson forces us to close XperiaBlog.net
by XB on October 19, 2011
in News
It is with great sadness that we have to bring you the news that this will be the last post on this website. Sony Ericsson has filed a formal complaint about the use of the trademarked ‘Xperia’ name in our domain name and have requested that the domain names, including that of XperiaX10.net, be transferred to them.
Sony Ericsson is alleging that we have used the domain names in “bad faith”. We are stunned and disappointed that Sony Ericsson, a company that we have spent much of our free personal time in promoting, especially the Xperia brand, has decided to take this formal action against us. After all we are just like you, passionate Sony Ericsson users, who have strived to bring the community breaking news and an independent viewpoint.
We do not have the resources to fight Sony Ericsson on this and therefore this is the last you will hear from us. Sony Ericsson has made great strides in its Xperia portfolio, especially in listening to the community. This makes it all the more confusing as to why Sony Ericsson would want to shut us down. We genuinely believe that 2012 could be a bumper year for the company, we just wish we could have been there along for the ride.
All the best.
Tej
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this is really sad, they were the blog i always went to to get the latest info! Shame Sony Ericsson!
Shame Sony Ericsson!
That's bad, I hope they open up a new site.
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Thats utterly shocking, why support developers and custom rom makers on xda then go and force others with the same ideas and in my view not using the xperia name wrongly at all, quite the opposite infact, shame on sony ericsson indeed
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Technically SE is correct, Xperia is their trade mark that they have registered no one is supposed to use it. But it's really bad that they are asking to shutdown after having such a success with the blog. If they had a problem with the blog they should told them when they started it.
Yeah i agree from a legal point of view it is very understandable, what SE could have done is taken control of the domains and the blog but kept the starter of the blog and others as moderators, that way they get their xperia name not being misused by unauthorised people but still have the blog going, plus consumers would still be happy as we would still have our beloved blog
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Shame to SE for being hard on their fan base. But, legally can they do this? What if XperiaBlog is claimed as one word?
LOL! After 12 years of worship to Ericsson - SE it's the first time that I say and I mean that I'm going Samsung! Enough with the SE bull$hit! Galaxy nexus!! Here I come!!!! :-D
PS: Screw u SE!! $%#*
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Yeah i agree from a legal point of view it is very understandable, what SE could have done is taken control of the domains and the blog but kept the starter of the blog and others as moderators, that way they get their xperia name not being misused by unauthorised people but still have the blog going, plus consumers would still be happy as we would still have our beloved blog
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XperiaBlog has also written some critical posts about updates for the X10 etc. I don't think SE appreciated that.
Another bad turn when the site posted the comparison between Arc S and iPhone 4S when it should've just let the Chinese community handle it...
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Another bad turn when the site posted the comparison between Arc S and iPhone 4S when it should've just let the Chinese community handle it...
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Sorry, I did not understand what you meant?
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Sorry, I did not understand what you meant?
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SE is always sensitive to what sites put down about their product. When you put out something that may reflect negatively, which it did against the Arc S in the camera comparison, it's not a surprised result. Since the site is also using Xperia in its name and actually damaging it's reputation (may be not alot, but it still does). Think about a scenario where I want to know more about the product. I found the site, oh hey, it has Xperia in it. Seems like a good site to find out good reviews. You step in, and you find criticism on it. Would you have a good impression on the product? I've worked on many club sites under SE, and many were closed down for the same reason.
Sites like Mobile-Review was also abandoned for the same reason, alot of premature conclusions and no filtering to what is posted. Not that I want press to censor their opinions, but some opinions/assertions were far from true.
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SE is always sensitive to what sites put down about their product. When you put out something that may reflect negatively, which it did against the Arc S in the camera comparison, it's not a surprised result. Since the site is also using Xperia in its name and actually damaging it's reputation (may be not alot, but it still does). Think about a scenario where I want to know more about the product. I found the site, oh hey, it has Xperia in it. Seems like a good site to find out good reviews. You step in, and you find criticism on it. Would you have a good impression on the product? I've worked on many club sites under SE, and many were closed down for the same reason.
Sites like Mobile-Review was also abandoned for the same reason, alot of premature conclusions and no filtering to what is posted. Not that I want press to censor their opinions, but some opinions/assertions were far from true.
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Aha, I see you what you mean.
Why not keep the site going just change the name just enough so no legal action can be taken
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thatsupnow said:
Why not keep the site going just change the name just enough so no legal action can be taken
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yeahh it's easy and legit
thatsupnow said:
Why not keep the site going just change the name just enough so no legal action can be taken
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Changing the name of the site would be easy but SE wants the domain name. Setting up another website with the same content would be time consuming and a major pain in the arse.
It's a shame considering all the effort they've put in maintaining it and updating it with the latest info.
And it's not like they were cyber-squatters or anything.
I don't think that stories like
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/09/0...2-with-1-5ghz-dual-core-4-3-inch-720p-screen/
or
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/10/1...icsson-walkman-w23i-with-dual-core-processor/
were perceived with pleasure over at SE's HQs... Still a shame though.
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Think about a scenario where I want to know more about the product. I found the site, oh hey, it has Xperia in it. Seems like a good site to find out good reviews. You step in, and you find criticism on it. Would you have a good impression on the product? I've worked on many club sites under SE, and many were closed down for the same reason.
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Actually this is what happened to me when I first started looking for xperia info some time ago, I thought it was an official site so I was surprised to read some of the posts.
For that reason I can understand why SE have taken this action. On the other hand, theres no reason why xperiablog cannot start up under a fresh name, if they have so many followers already it wont be so hard to spread the word.
They could, but from my knowledge, there are 2 reasons they're demanding the close. First is to prevent any damage to their brand from the site, and the other is to demand the xperiablog domain. I'm sure xperiablog.com will be popping up soon from them, which they have the authority to do since the word "xperia" is their's to begin with. So to prevent any confusions for people who hit SHIFT+ENTER instead of CTRL+ENTER wouldn't be redirected to the wrong site.

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