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[discuss] Anonymous members caught!

They caught 3 of those idiot anonymous pests. (I call them pest because DoS is not a Hack)
I hope they throw the book at those fools.

ncaissie said:
They caught 3 of those idiot anonymous pests. (I call them pest because DoS is not a Hack)
I hope they throw the book at those fools.
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Source of this news>? and what specifically where they 'Caught' Doing ? Related to any ongoing lawsuits or Recent Attacks?
'Anon' is a fairly Broad 'Group' .....

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20070506-83/spain-says-it-has-arrested-anonymous-hackers/

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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20070506-83/spain-says-it-has-arrested-anonymous-hackers/
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Thanks for the link

I can (sort of) understand the attack on Sony after the whole GeoHot fiasco & wanting the i.p's of those who downloaded his keys.
But the later attacks on Nintendo and now Codemasters just seems to me like the gaming industry is being unfairly coordinated against as a soft target.

As things stand, they caught three chaps who hosted a chatroom, labelled them as the "leaders" of Anon in Spain and compared them to terrorist bands like ETA. We are not sure if the whole thing is a joke or if they really are so shameless to lie like that.

I read there was evidence on computers. The idiots may not be the leaders but they are part of if and I’m glad they got busted. **** Geohot. The guy can rot in prison for all I care. I have 4 PS3s a PSP and Xperia Play. I have well over 50 PS3 games on BR and purchased every one of them. I paid monthly for PSN Plus and DCUO and could not use either one thanks to those POS cowards. And they sounded gay in their videos. (so did Geohot, probably his boyfriend)

Evidence of what? Anonymous doesn't have leaders, it's a horizontal movement... and anyone with a decently configured Tor can run LOIC and "join Anonymous" in a DDoS. Heck, my own forum got DDoS'd the day before yesterday (260k open sessions, when we have only 350 users ).
http://anonops.blogspot.com/2011/05/lets-be-clear-we-are-legion-but-it.html
I understand that you're angry because the attack stripped you from some of Sony's services (as it did with me) and it's condemnable as it is data theft, but we still don't know who the offenders were. For all we know, it could be the same people as the guys who downloaded that huge data mining torrent with 150M+ FB profiles. And besides, people who tinker with devices are more prone to give you further enjoyment of your device after sale than anything Sony (or any other device vendor) will do for you. The hackers are not the hacks, if you know what I mean.

I can understand wanting to mod there stuff but Sony has a right to fight back against Geo****. Anon had to start with someone. I read (not in the link I posted because I just linked the first one I found after I was asked for it) that they found Dos scripts against Sony servers and others. I also had to get a new CC and change all my CC automatic payments to the new card. It is more than loosing a service I was paying for.

why did you post this in the dev section?

m3dteam said:
why did you post this in the dev section?
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What are you talking about?

Not sure why this is posted on the forum whatsoever considering it's nothing to do with the Xperia Play.

Because it has everything to do with Sony and the games I love. I wanted to see what everyone thinks. If you don't like it then don't read or post.
Simple as that.

ncaissie said:
And they sounded gay in their videos. (so did Geohot, probably his boyfriend)
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That's not funny or cool to say. A lot of people that sound "gay" are not, and a lot of people that are gay don't sound "gay".
It's just as bad as the stereo-type that all Americans are fat, lazy and full of fast food.

speedyink said:
That's not funny or cool to say. A lot of people that sound "gay" are not, and a lot of people that are gay don't sound "gay".
Is just as bad as the stereo-type that all Americans are fat, lazy and full of fast food.
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They're not? Just kidding
But still, this topic has little to do with the xperia play. It's not a sony device, it doesn;t use services like psn. I come to this forum for xperia play for xperia play things and don't want to go through off topic topics before I find what I want (xperia play stuf). That's why me and others don;t want threads like these, even if we don;t have to read them.

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They're not? Just kidding
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Well, not ALL of them
I kid as well, I love Americans.

All Sony Fanboys will be 'Erked' at Anon and Co. After 3.21. No abilty to Run Other OS on PS3 'Erked' alot of people too.. Myself Included.
So when Sony Removed this option. whatelse is there to do ? Crack the System and Make these things accesable to those who want it.. Its Still a Minority.
So why be so upset about people Cracking Sony Devices .. Do you Feel modding/Cracking/Rooting/Jailbreaking Phones is wrong too ?
While i dont agree with the attack on PSN Network , to say Geohotz should rot in jail is a bit goofy to me . Was he involved in this attack ?
People Like to Tinker. This is Life.

i opened this topic expecting some awesome xplay news, since y'know its in the xplay forums and all.
totally dissapointed.
why does this need discussed anyway?
pointless topic is pointless.

havokk said:
i opened this topic expecting some awesome xplay news, since y'know its in the xplay forums and all.
totally dissapointed.
why does this need discussed anyway?
pointless topic is pointless.
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Lol people posting to say its pointless and bump it in the process... Oops

The topic was actually quite on top of the topic list in this thread so no/little bump. But you can make a point clear to users that topics like these are unwanted in these boards.

Sony Ericsson community in Google +

Hi everyone
I am planning to build Sony ericsson community in google+, so we can share news, ideas, opinions, and suggestions that with large numbers we can deliver to SE and they might provide it to us (as you know SE starts to listen to their customers a while ago). This is similar to blog but can be easily access on the go along with so many features offered by google+ like making votes, sharing ... etc. And everyone can contribute (everyone can post whatever topic he/she think that it is interesting regarding Sony ericsson or any other phone).
if anyone is interested, please leave your Google+ account and I will invite you to special circle called Sony Ericsson community.
my google profile is in here
https://profiles.google.com/113070422033274639984
please note; this is not an invite to join googls+. it is invite to build sony ericsson community to share news, ideas, opinions and suggestions
I will invite everyone

Good luck with that one mate. Maybe if you took out the fanboy bit you might get a few responses. Call it google + SE network or something else, just ditch the fanboy bit.

well, it will be called Sony ericsson community
I am not sure if fanboy make any offense to anyone

ahomad said:
Hi everyone
I am planning to build Sony ericsson community in google+, so we can share news, ideas, opinions, and suggestions that with large numbers we can deliver to SE and they might provide it to us (as you know SE starts to listen to their customers a while ago). This is similar to blog but can be easily access on the go along with so many features offered by google+ like making votes, sharing ... etc. And everyone can contribute (everyone can post whatever topic he/she think that it is interesting regarding Sony ericsson or any other phone).
if anyone is interested, please leave your Google+ account and I will invite you to special circle called Sony Ericsson community.
please note; this is not an invite to join googls+. it is invite to build sony ericsson community to share news, ideas, opinions and suggestions
I will invite everyone
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Hi there,
Many people seem to think that a circle is like a group in Facebook. Unfortunately, it isn't. If you add someone to your circle it doesn't mean that they have added you to theirs. For example, if you add 20 people to your 'SE Fanboy' circle, you will be able to view posts from those 20 people in your circle, but unless all those 20 people add the other 19 people to their own circle, it doesn't do much. Your circle is only visible to you; and I think other people can see the first 21 people in your circle
Regardless, add me! gplus.to/rahul

yes you are right, but I am sure that they will figure a way for this. you know that it is just launched and they are listening to people's opinion to improve their service. I already contacted their one of there employee and she said that they have received several inquiries regarding this and they are looking into it.
in the meantime, I will just keep building SE community and will reshare all the news I get from everyone and we still can see each others comments and communicate with each other (through me for now)
BTW, anyone want an invite please do send your email as well

Yeah nice idea but a bit fanboy. What's the point of a circle when SE is updating their blog site? They listen to the comments on their blog.
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knibby said:
Yeah nice idea but a bit fanboy. What's the point of a circle when SE is updating their blog site? They listen to the comments on their blog.
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I think our petitions/forums made them update the x10.

thats right, our petition and forums, not their blog
if we have an issue that have no topic on their blog, what can we do? we can make our own thread and talk about it and everyone say his/her opinion, then they will lestien to us.
in addition to that, we can discuss other phones and features that are not in SE phones yet for example SGS II
in nut shell, its our own blog and we can write and discuss whatever we want, not just reply to topics

https://plus.google.com/113439242679072612298

we are now over 150 members and keep growing
(ofcourse cannot be compared with over 2000 for xda, but keep in mind that xda has too many manufacturers and has long great history, go xda and we have started couple of days ago, we will reach 1000 members very shortly
however, I have received many PMs asking me to put my google account so they can add me, I will put mine in the main post so if anyone is interested add me and I will add you asap
see you there

I have to be 18 to join Google+ unfortunately...

Please confirm why the Profile not longer available ??

my account is temporarely suspended for violating the community standers, which I have no idea what does it mean.
and will be reactivated very soon, pm me your account and I will invite you asap

Sony Ericsson demands XperiaBlog.net to close.

xperiablog.net/2011/10/19/sony-ericsson-forces-us-to-close-xperiablog-net/
Sony Ericsson forces us to close XperiaBlog.net
by XB on October 19, 2011
in News
It is with great sadness that we have to bring you the news that this will be the last post on this website. Sony Ericsson has filed a formal complaint about the use of the trademarked ‘Xperia’ name in our domain name and have requested that the domain names, including that of XperiaX10.net, be transferred to them.
Sony Ericsson is alleging that we have used the domain names in “bad faith”. We are stunned and disappointed that Sony Ericsson, a company that we have spent much of our free personal time in promoting, especially the Xperia brand, has decided to take this formal action against us. After all we are just like you, passionate Sony Ericsson users, who have strived to bring the community breaking news and an independent viewpoint.
We do not have the resources to fight Sony Ericsson on this and therefore this is the last you will hear from us. Sony Ericsson has made great strides in its Xperia portfolio, especially in listening to the community. This makes it all the more confusing as to why Sony Ericsson would want to shut us down. We genuinely believe that 2012 could be a bumper year for the company, we just wish we could have been there along for the ride.
All the best.
Tej
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this is really sad, they were the blog i always went to to get the latest info! Shame Sony Ericsson!

Shame Sony Ericsson!

That's bad, I hope they open up a new site.
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Thats utterly shocking, why support developers and custom rom makers on xda then go and force others with the same ideas and in my view not using the xperia name wrongly at all, quite the opposite infact, shame on sony ericsson indeed
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Technically SE is correct, Xperia is their trade mark that they have registered no one is supposed to use it. But it's really bad that they are asking to shutdown after having such a success with the blog. If they had a problem with the blog they should told them when they started it.

Yeah i agree from a legal point of view it is very understandable, what SE could have done is taken control of the domains and the blog but kept the starter of the blog and others as moderators, that way they get their xperia name not being misused by unauthorised people but still have the blog going, plus consumers would still be happy as we would still have our beloved blog
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Shame to SE for being hard on their fan base. But, legally can they do this? What if XperiaBlog is claimed as one word?

LOL! After 12 years of worship to Ericsson - SE it's the first time that I say and I mean that I'm going Samsung! Enough with the SE bull$hit! Galaxy nexus!! Here I come!!!! :-D
PS: Screw u SE!! $%#*

Lancerfq said:
Yeah i agree from a legal point of view it is very understandable, what SE could have done is taken control of the domains and the blog but kept the starter of the blog and others as moderators, that way they get their xperia name not being misused by unauthorised people but still have the blog going, plus consumers would still be happy as we would still have our beloved blog
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XperiaBlog has also written some critical posts about updates for the X10 etc. I don't think SE appreciated that.

Another bad turn when the site posted the comparison between Arc S and iPhone 4S when it should've just let the Chinese community handle it...

unknown13x said:
Another bad turn when the site posted the comparison between Arc S and iPhone 4S when it should've just let the Chinese community handle it...
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Sorry, I did not understand what you meant?

batman_112 said:
Sorry, I did not understand what you meant?
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SE is always sensitive to what sites put down about their product. When you put out something that may reflect negatively, which it did against the Arc S in the camera comparison, it's not a surprised result. Since the site is also using Xperia in its name and actually damaging it's reputation (may be not alot, but it still does). Think about a scenario where I want to know more about the product. I found the site, oh hey, it has Xperia in it. Seems like a good site to find out good reviews. You step in, and you find criticism on it. Would you have a good impression on the product? I've worked on many club sites under SE, and many were closed down for the same reason.
Sites like Mobile-Review was also abandoned for the same reason, alot of premature conclusions and no filtering to what is posted. Not that I want press to censor their opinions, but some opinions/assertions were far from true.

unknown13x said:
SE is always sensitive to what sites put down about their product. When you put out something that may reflect negatively, which it did against the Arc S in the camera comparison, it's not a surprised result. Since the site is also using Xperia in its name and actually damaging it's reputation (may be not alot, but it still does). Think about a scenario where I want to know more about the product. I found the site, oh hey, it has Xperia in it. Seems like a good site to find out good reviews. You step in, and you find criticism on it. Would you have a good impression on the product? I've worked on many club sites under SE, and many were closed down for the same reason.
Sites like Mobile-Review was also abandoned for the same reason, alot of premature conclusions and no filtering to what is posted. Not that I want press to censor their opinions, but some opinions/assertions were far from true.
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Aha, I see you what you mean.

Why not keep the site going just change the name just enough so no legal action can be taken
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thatsupnow said:
Why not keep the site going just change the name just enough so no legal action can be taken
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yeahh it's easy and legit

thatsupnow said:
Why not keep the site going just change the name just enough so no legal action can be taken
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Changing the name of the site would be easy but SE wants the domain name. Setting up another website with the same content would be time consuming and a major pain in the arse.
It's a shame considering all the effort they've put in maintaining it and updating it with the latest info.
And it's not like they were cyber-squatters or anything.

I don't think that stories like
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/09/0...2-with-1-5ghz-dual-core-4-3-inch-720p-screen/
or
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/10/1...icsson-walkman-w23i-with-dual-core-processor/
were perceived with pleasure over at SE's HQs... Still a shame though.

unknown13x said:
Think about a scenario where I want to know more about the product. I found the site, oh hey, it has Xperia in it. Seems like a good site to find out good reviews. You step in, and you find criticism on it. Would you have a good impression on the product? I've worked on many club sites under SE, and many were closed down for the same reason.
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Actually this is what happened to me when I first started looking for xperia info some time ago, I thought it was an official site so I was surprised to read some of the posts.
For that reason I can understand why SE have taken this action. On the other hand, theres no reason why xperiablog cannot start up under a fresh name, if they have so many followers already it wont be so hard to spread the word.

They could, but from my knowledge, there are 2 reasons they're demanding the close. First is to prevent any damage to their brand from the site, and the other is to demand the xperiablog domain. I'm sure xperiablog.com will be popping up soon from them, which they have the authority to do since the word "xperia" is their's to begin with. So to prevent any confusions for people who hit SHIFT+ENTER instead of CTRL+ENTER wouldn't be redirected to the wrong site.

XperiaBlog.net shut down by Sony

http://xperiablog.net has been asked to relinquish both that domain and XperiaX10.net and hand them to Sony Ericsson. They have been accused of using the Xperia brand "in bad faith" and they can't fight against such a behemoth. It's a shame that one of the top sites about our phones gets the axe in such a jerkass way.

Can Sony do that? I know if you're just holding on to the domain (Like walmart.com or target.com or something) and doing nothing it's cyber squatting but if you're actively posting updating and whatever and not selling it-it's yours?

Another reason to boycott sony products

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Sony Ericsson. SONY ERICSSON, XPERIA, and various product names found on this website are trademarks of Sony Ericsson unless otherwise noted.
xperiablog
thats why it got shutdown.
whereas sites like playstation.blog are official websites supported by S0NY

I read some updates and decent reviews from them.. Too bad that they are closing now..

As you can guess, we're afraid now in Xperia.Es that done jerkass decides to send a similar letter.

Clienterror said:
Can Sony do that?
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They just did
I know if you're just holding on to the domain (Like walmart.com or target.com or something) and doing nothing it's cyber squatting but if you're actively posting updating and whatever and not selling it-it's yours?
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Companies take trademarks and brand image very seriously. It is well within their legal rights to protect it, if there is justification. In this case there is justification, as Xperia is a trademark of Sony Ericsson, and they felt their brand was not being handled properly.
Even Microsoft made a person give up their domain name because it phonetically sounded like "Microsoft."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_vs._MikeRoweSoft

They're so lame. Communities and people like them are what makes a company big, when someone goes online to check on a product and finds that it has so many followers, fansites dedicated to it, reviews and a lot of support, we like the product and know that even if the company turns their back on us (most of the time) the community will be there to help us.
Good luck on your site Logseman, let's hope it stays there for a long time.

hairdewx said:
In this case there is justification, as Xperia is a trademark of Sony Ericsson, and they felt their brand was not being handled properly.
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I call bull**** on this.
These guys were enthusiasts of Sony Ericsson's products, and they had been informing about all things Xperia for a long while, without any bad faith or slander against Sony Ericsson. Were they to come to court, they would prove it. They have decided not to because they can't or aren't willing to pay to defend what is self evident.
This kind of statements, aside of reeking of corporate slavery, are completely false as well. There are heaps of sites dedicated to bash Apple every day. Since those guys know that there is no such thing as bad press, they don't act against them. Meanwhile, Sony Ericsson, which has been struggling for years in the market, chooses to strangle one of its greatest unofficial feelgood spreaders. Way to go!

We should be thankful that both HTC and o2, Really don't care that XDA are using there name
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...and they wonder why some people were so happy when they got hacked.
I love my Play, but screw Sony.

Red_Kop said:
...and they wonder why some people were so happy when they got hacked.
I love my Play, but screw Sony.
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the hackers are still arses to hack Sony. -.-
Either way , ask sony to make an official Xperiablog like playstation.blog.eu/us .
Or create a FB page xP

I know the bad faith thing sounds bad but they have only asked for the domains haven't they?
The guys behind the site could set up another that doesn't use the branding.
With such a domain a lot of people may think it's an official site, which is why they have asked for it.

Cat_On_Droid said:
the hackers are still arses to hack Sony. -.-
Either way , ask sony to make an official Xperiablog like playstation.blog.eu/us .
Or create a FB page xP
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Sony Ericsson has its own official sphere with its official product and development blogs, its own official forums and so on. It goes against its own interests to smother what outside people are saying, particularly when they're enthusiasts of your products.
Take another example: Cyanogen Mod does not endorse Sony Ericsson closely or market their phones in any way, yet the CM7 team received hardware and support from them. If they are willing to help people who, so to say, are outsiders, how come are they lawyering against insiders who were willing to spread the awareness of their brand?

I really hope they're just after the domain name and aren't actually looking to shut the site down. I can understand Sony wanting to protect trademarks, but I can't understand why they'd be opposed to the content of the blog.

Request - Encourage Sony to support 2011 Xperia Device & 4.4

I have posted a new thread at Sony Mobile Support requesting they support 2011 devices with KitKat, as apparently they announced they will update 2012 devices to kitkat.
Or, if Sony will not support the 2011 devices as they are beyond 18 months old, they should release the sources and let the dev community go to town.
Here is the thread at Sony Mobile Support, I would like all users to just take two minutes and voice your feedback in encouraging Sony to either update our PLAY or better yet, release all sources so that devs may do updates such as KitKat 4.4 to our PLAY.
Sony Mobile Support Thread:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...Xperia-devices-Xperia-PLAY/m-p/430889#U430889
Thank you and please show your support through the link above, I have informed Sony of this thread but if you all can please kindly post your comments on the thread above. If Sony doesnt see the comments of encouragement then they wont see it as worth it, in either way.
Edit - I am leaning towards Sony releasing sources as this will cost them nothing or a lot less then paying staff to make the 4.4 software upgrade and beta test it. Sources would be a lot more feasible, plus it would allow everyone to benefit with full access to our PLAY.
EDIT 2 - From Big_Smile, he made a very good suggestion to better our chances:
"Also, it would be a good idea to post your messages on Sundar Pichai's Google plus as he is the head of Google Android.
In order to use Android with Google services, manufactures have to follow certain rules that Google makes.
We should ask Sundar Pichai to compel manufacturers to release source files for older devices.
You can see my post asking him to do this here:
https://plus.google.com/+SundarPichai/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
(I've used my name Madhu Sharma).
If you agree, please +1 my comment but also post your own comment as well.
Unlike contacting Sony, this probably does have a good chance of becoming a reality if lots of people participate. Google do tend to listen and if it happened, they would make more money as more people would have access to their services.
Again, it only takes a few minutes to participate and this really could make a difference for everyone."
Thank you Big_Smile.

I forgot to add a Poll for this thread, any chance to still add it? I dont see it as an option.. after I made the first post.
Edit - Got the POLL Running

One more thing:
If everyone can select to vote to have this thread detailed on XDA Portal to gain attention that would great. See attached photo if you are unsure how to vote this thread on XDA Portal.

I have contributed to the thread. I don't think it will do anything, but I think everyone should try.
It only takes a second (and you can login in with Gmail and Facebook, so you don't even need to set up an account).
You never know, if Sony gets a lot of requests, they will take action.
Also, post your message here as well:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/support/contact-us/contact-form/Other/en_GB/
Again, it probably won't do anything but it is worth a try and will only take a minute. Companies like Sony are always trying to find ways to show that they listen (as it earns them good publicity).
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Also, it would be a good idea to post your messages on Sundar Pichai's Google plus as he is the head of Google Android.
In order to use Android with Google services, manufactures have to follow certain rules that Google makes.
We should ask Sundar Pichai to compel manufacturers to release source files for older devices.
You can see my post asking him to do this here:
https://plus.google.com/116651741222993143554/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
(I've used my name Madhu Sharma).
If you agree, please +1 my comment but also post your own comment as well.
Unlike contacting Sony, this probably does have a good chance of becoming a reality if lots of people participate. Google do tend to listen and if it happened, they would make more money as more people would have access to their services.
Again, it only takes a few minutes to participate and this really could make a difference for everyone.

i doubt they will support it they wont support my xperia t which is 1.5ghz snapdragon s4 and 1gb of ram. this was their last 2012 flagship so they won't update any 2012 devices probably only 2013
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At Big_Smile, that is an excellent idea and would stand a better chance then contacting Sony head on. I will add your suggestion to post 1 soon as I have a chance
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Per Big_Smile's link to Sundar Pichai, I have added the following to his, please see attached.
Link to:
https://plus.google.com/+SundarPichai/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
Edit - Added this thread to my Google+ post reply to Big_Smile.

I think another good idea would to be raise this issue on "This Week in Google" (TWiG).
TWiG is a podcast about Google & Android, that is often viewed by people who work at Google.
I have made a post on the TWiG Google Plus Community:
https://plus.google.com/115434784269286841659/posts/4GQVrDtLhTV
If you agree with what I have written, please +1 it and add your own comments and ideas.
I think if the post got around 50 - 100 +1s, there's a good chance someone from the show might notice it and so might consider discuss it on the next episode.
Again, it's a long shot, but it would only take a few minutes to contribute and it could stand a good chance of making 4.4 available for not just the Xperia Play, but many other older phones. As I've discussed in my Plus post, this could help a lot of people (and not just Play users).
Unlike other companies, Google does listen, so if we raise this issue in lots of places, there's a good chance that they might act on it.

good ! waiting for ur news
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I want ask all people, that want to post SUBJ request without stupid words to update firmwares for phones. Just ask to open ALL sources, so community can do all work.

I'm all for the sources but telling them to update a very outdated phone is a little much.
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JunDavis said:
I'm all for the sources but telling them to update a very outdated phone is a little much.
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Hence thatz why I am hoping for sources.
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Added my 2 cents all over
Do you think we should start a petition on change.org @OP?
from the God of gaming, the Xperia Play

Why ya keep asking for upgrade? IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Understand this already. Only thing, that *may* hapeen - opening sources of GB drivrs. Thats enough for communities of all old phones, so all people must focus on it, not on asking for upgrade, that, as said, WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

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Why ya keep asking for upgrade? IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Understand this already. Only thing, that *may* hapeen - opening sources of GB drivrs. Thats enough for communities of all old phones, so all people must focus on it, not on asking for upgrade, that, as said, WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
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Y u gotta be so negative? You never know
from the God of gaming, the Xperia Play

This is sony we are talking about who are the second worst manufacturer to give updates (lg is worst) they probably won't update their 2012 devices so what makes you think they will update the play.
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There's nothing wrong with trying. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE ANSWER UNLESS YOU TRY. So all of you negas, go somewhere else. You're of no use here.

Just like sony wouldn't give ics to the play yet everyone asked for it
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narflynn619 said:
There's nothing wrong with trying. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE ANSWER UNLESS YOU TRY. So all of you negas, go somewhere else. You're of no use here.
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We are not negative, we are only realistic, it is absurd to think that a company will release an update (LOL) or the source code (double LOL) for a device of 2 years ago, it is against their interest.
BTW don't worry, probably I will go away, if I earn sufficient money to change both my laptop and the phone I will go away from the xplay this Christmas, if not sorry but this nega will remain for another year
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Even if they are unlikely to listen, it only takes 2 minutes max to ask them, so it's worth a try. Anyone can spare 2 minutes.
Also, I think the best strategy is to ask Google to force manufacturers to release source code, as they have a financial incentive to do so (as it will further their interests of making Android less fragmented, easier to develop for and making the latest Google Play apps available to all).