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Next Generation HTC Dream/G1 coming soon..

According to boygeniusreport.com the HTC Vision, a rumored Android smartphone is in fact a variant of the Desire complete with a sliding FULL QWERTY keypad.
See original article here --->> http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/05/21/htc-vision-rumored-to-be-a-desire-with-qwerty-keypad/
I'm hopeful it comes to the U.S. as we need a direct competitor to the Verizon Droid phones that are confirmed out.
More importantly we need a truly amazing phone to finally move on from the HTC Dream/G1
Specs:
3.7″ WVGA display
5 megapixel camera
1GHz processor
Android 2.1 or 2.2?
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the desire has sense. The G1 is stock android. There is a world of difference between the two, i for one hate the look of sense. And that picture is a mockup lol not really wheat teh phone will lokk like

mejorguille said:
the desire has sense. The G1 is stock android. There is a world of difference between the two, i for one hate the look of sense. And that picture is a mockup lol not really wheat teh phone will lokk like
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Its an artist rendition, no one said that's how its going to look like. hahaha
For now its a rumored phone but many different sources are indicating the validity of the claim so more likely than not it will likely appear in the following months.
Most people have been waiting for a upgrade from the HTC Dream/G1 for a long while now.
Thanks for your comment but not everyone is going to agree with you.

mejorguille said:
the desire has sense. The G1 is stock android. There is a world of difference between the two, i for one hate the look of sense. And that picture is a mockup lol not really wheat teh phone will lokk like
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Found this in a few minutes, even if it does have "Sense" so you can easily turn it off
Just like you would with a custom Rom, I do this all the time if I choose to change the Launcher or Home Replacement. LOL
------>> http://www.androidguys.com/2009/10/22/how-to-turn-off-htc-sense/

Or you could root the phone and tell Sense to **** off. I for one can't wait for a Nexus-like device with a keyboard. Why didn't HTC make one sooner? They knew the G1 sold like hot cakes.

God, I've been dying a good HTC qwerty phone. I've been using my MT3G for near a year now, and have gotten pretty used to the virtual KB, but I gotta say I still miss my old G1's slide out KB

Its not technically a G1 sucessor IMO. The myTouch Slide is.

pziv2 said:
Its not technically a G1 sucessor IMO. The myTouch Slide is.
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Look closely at the Mytouch Slide specs, its a step back and is more last generation than Next Generation.
We need something that can compete with this:
--->> http://phones.verizonwireless.com/htc/incredible/

legend221 said:
Look closely at the Mytouch Slide specs, its a step back and is more last generation than Next Generation.
We need something that can compete with this:
--->> http://phones.verizonwireless.com/htc/incredible/
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i dont fully agree with that the specs are right on and better in some places than the motorolla droid so its not last generation at all. plus it looks fast and is getting the 2.2 update so i dont see how its last gen if its getting all the new hardware and has the same specs as one of the better selling phones

jriv said:
i dont fully agree with that the specs are right on and better in some places than the motorolla droid so its not last generation at all. plus it looks fast and is getting the 2.2 update so i dont see how its last gen if its getting all the new hardware and has the same specs as one of the better selling phones
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Mytouch Slide may look like a duck but it doesn't quack like a duck:
The 600MHz ARM processor is unacceptable vs the 1GHz processor the Vision would have, Droid Incredible has now.
Just like a computer the faster the processor the better the device.
T-Mobile needs to be cutting edge so it retains its customer base, everyone and their grandma wants to have an Android now
If they don't stay at it to offer the newest, most innovative android phones there are plenty of other companies that will.

legend221 said:
Mytouch Slide may look like a duck but it doesn't quack like a duck:
The 600MHz ARM processor is unacceptable vs the 1GHz processor the Vision would have, Droid Incredible has now.
Just like a computer the faster the processor the better the device.
T-Mobile needs to be cutting edge so it retains its customer base, everyone and their grandma wants to have an Android now
If they don't stay at it to offer the newest, most innovative android phones there are plenty of other companies that will.
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I fully agree. You can look at the mytouch slide and can see it was a step back in hardware from Nexus and a step back from the high end Android phones on Verizon / Sprint *Evo an Incredible* So I wont be wasting a 2 year agreement on the mytouch slide but will also wait for a 1ghz keyboard android phone.

legend221 said:
Mytouch Slide may look like a duck but it doesn't quack like a duck:
The 600MHz ARM processor is unacceptable vs the 1GHz processor the Vision would have, Droid Incredible has now.
Just like a computer the faster the processor the better the device.
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That is a very bold statement and totally flawed. One could conceivably shoehorn a 6-core opteron chip onto a phone and it would be wickedly fast and versatile, problem is that it would drain the battery dead in SECONDS. You really need to think about things for a bit -- why, if "faster is better" would intel be making such a killing off the ATOM chips? Why isn't anyone building phones with Intel's or AMD's fastest chips?
Because faster is NOT better! In a phone, EFFICIENT is better. The difficult part about building a phone is balancing the performance with the available BATTERY CAPACITY. You can make a wickedly fast phone, but without battery technology capable of keeping it running for a decent amount of time, it is pointless.
IMO, the 720x chips in DREAM/MAGIC are plenty. The 3D component could use some advancement, but the CPU itself is lots. We're not trying to win speed races here!
T-Mobile needs to be cutting edge so it retains its customer base, everyone and their grandma wants to have an Android now
If they don't stay at it to offer the newest, most innovative android phones there are plenty of other companies that will.
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T-Mobile is NOT A PHONE MANUFACTURER!!!!
They are a MOBILE SERVICE PROVIDER.
The phones they sell are made by any number of actual hardware manufacturers, including HTC, Motorola, Nokia, etc. Having one phone or another really doesn't matter in terms of SERVICE PROVISION. Especially since they use SIMCARDS -- you can buy ANY phone you like and use it. The only things affecting whether they have customers or not is their PRICE and SERVICE QUALITY.

legend221 said:
According to boygeniusreport.com the HTC Vision, a rumored Android smartphone is in fact a variant of the Desire complete with a sliding FULL QWERTY keypad.
See original article here --->> http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/05/21/htc-vision-rumored-to-be-a-desire-with-qwerty-keypad/
I'm hopeful it comes to the U.S. as we need a direct competitor to the Verizon Droid phones that are confirmed out.
More importantly we need a truly amazing phone to finally move on from the HTC Dream/G1
Specs:
3.7″ WVGA display
5 megapixel camera
1GHz processor
Android 2.1 or 2.2?
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I know that that's just a painting of what someone expects the phone to look like and it doesn't necessarily match anything, but I really hope that if this device is real, that it doesn't have that stupid angle between the keyboard and the screen. A straight slide is fine, but too many weird movements really will destroy durability.
On the plus side, if the picture is accurate, the keyboard looks just about PERFECT. Even better than the DREAM's keyboard even, and that's saying a lot! 5 rows with ARROW KEYS!!!! Beautiful.
Only thing we'd have to do is strip that SENSE crap off it!

If it is going to look like that then I am in for one. I am not going to give up my G1 until a good phone comes out to blow it out of the water. Even more so now with having rooted my phone and CM 5.0.7 stable installed. I just hope we can kill some of the bloatware fluff and keep it smooth because T-Mobile insist on limiting us on RAM.... WTH? An extra 512mb is only a few cents more, pass the cost onto the customers if that is such an issue!

lbcoder said:
That is a very bold statement and totally flawed. One could conceivably shoehorn a 6-core opteron chip onto a phone and it would be wickedly fast and versatile, problem is that it would drain the battery dead in SECONDS. You really need to think about things for a bit -- why, if "faster is better" would intel be making such a killing off the ATOM chips? Why isn't anyone building phones with Intel's or AMD's fastest chips?
Because faster is NOT better! In a phone, EFFICIENT is better. The difficult part about building a phone is balancing the performance with the available BATTERY CAPACITY. You can make a wickedly fast phone, but without battery technology capable of keeping it running for a decent amount of time, it is pointless.
IMO, the 720x chips in DREAM/MAGIC are plenty. The 3D component could use some advancement, but the CPU itself is lots. We're not trying to win speed races here!
T-Mobile is NOT A PHONE MANUFACTURER!!!!
They are a MOBILE SERVICE PROVIDER.
The phones they sell are made by any number of actual hardware manufacturers, including HTC, Motorola, Nokia, etc. Having one phone or another really doesn't matter in terms of SERVICE PROVISION. Especially since they use SIMCARDS -- you can buy ANY phone you like and use it. The only things affecting whether they have customers or not is their PRICE and SERVICE QUALITY.
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In regards to the faster processor someone just has to read from the experiences a Nexus One user has about the performance and realize that a 1Ghz is indeed wanted by current users pushing thier G1's to its limits. Its up to the person if they want a 600Mhz or a 1Ghz processor true enough but for me the 1Ghz is a no brainer. Most of these Nexus One owners are mainly ex-G1 and Mytouch so only they can understand the real difference which is quite significant espcially due to them not having a keyboard anymore and them being satisfied with thier purchase.
There are times when I am using an emulator and saying to myself how much smoother and less laggy this would be if I ran a phone with a better 3D processor and a faster CPU to support it. Im sure many others would also agree with this.
Also, no one said T-Mobile was the phone manufacturer but it is up to them which phones they have in thier lineup one way or another. I know how and why but thats beside the point. Verizon in particular with thier marketing dept. have made the "Droid" franchise one of the biggest one yet, I am reminded daily when there is a commercial on the TV. I love T-Mobile but also realize that if they do not offer a suitable G1/Mytouch replacement with a modern eye pleasing body and styling, high quality and suitable size screen, full qwerty keyboard, 2.1 or 2.2, high megapixel camera, bleeding edge CPU, capable 3D processor and a suitable battery to support all of this many people are going to leave the company if they havent already.
We all realize this website is almost exclusive for our HTC phones. While many buy unlocked phones at a premium price many more xda members actually get thier phones directly from thier service provider as I said when I mentioned T-Mobile earlier because with a contract it is more than paid for through the length of it. Most of the time its under $200.00 with a 2-year contract vs. $450.00+ without if its new to the market and cutting edge.

If you want a 1ghz processor, get a nexus one. End of story. If you would rather have a 600mhz processor and a keyboard, get a slide. You have options. No sense in *****ing about them or blaming companies for YOUR inability to make a decision. If you want the droid, get it, if you want the incredible, get it. Problem is YOU don't want to pay for it, you want it for free or discounted. Well, Your also SOL. SO pay the price to get what you want, or don't and get something more in your price range.

We know what high end phones should be. Right now that seems to be similar spec'd phones to the Evo, Incredible, etc. Adding a keyboard does not add much except bulk. So why are they not making equivalent high end sliders? Who knows?
Adding a keyboard is not going to add a drastic drain on battery life. So arguing that sliders should not get a 1 Ghz processor because of battery drain, when there are phones already out with the same processor, is moot.
All we are asking for is equivalently spec'd phones to the current high end line of iClones. It is not that difficult to grasp... Really. I promise.
Personally, I would pay $1000 or more for the right high end Android slider... They just don't make it yet.

Certainly looks a lot better than the MyTouch Slide. I hope it's something like that phone. I love my G1! Especially the keyboard. Really hope they make a new G1.. :\
I did a post about it.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index....rocessor-35mm-jack-atmel-maxtouch-sensor-etc/
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mob...n-Processor-3-5-mm-Jack-amp-Atmel/td-p/366743
(Well instead of what I said in the forum about looking the same.. Maybe a remodeled, but still similar design)

the keyboard looks like the touch pro 2 one...looks like a fake image?

I am going to add a little more to my last post...
As long as they do not try to mimic the Verizon Kin Two in looks I will be happy. I was attempting to mess with that phone yesterday at the Microsoft Store in Scottsdale, AZ..... Personally I think the feel sucks, it was harder to type on than the G1, and it was slow loading up pages. The only thing I did like was the heavy clear coating on the outside on the top of the phone.

Htc hd2 or samsung galaxy s vibrant

Hi there
currently i am having htc touch pro raphael and htc hero as i love android device and want to upgrade it
i have shortlisted 2 phone
1. Htc hd2
2. Samsung vibrant
my question is
* htc hd2 will get the native android in near future what are the chances?
* after porting the latest android rom from the forum on hd2 how many hours the battery runs on it
what will you suggest hd2 or vibrant
missing flashlight is not the concern for me....
As both the phones are costing me same price both are used phone in mint condition...
Please advise me...

I have the hd2 and use android every day.my best friend has samsung galaxy s and i can comparize the 2 devices.the hd2 has a gigant display but the galaxy s with its superamoled is fantastic.more than hd2.hd2 android ,in this moment , is not at the level of galaxy s.
Well.after this answers i will buy the galaxy s. I hope to help you in your choice.
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The AMOLED screens that samsungs use (and license to apple for the iphone) are the main reason to consider as a plus for samsung.
HD2 is a year old now, but, until the DesireHD comes out, is still the best phone on the market across the piece and has actually got better as people develop for it. There is now a effective choice of 5 operating systems. Cotulla even suggested that iOS would run well on it!
So if flexibility, speed and a big screen are important, get an HD2
If a bright screen is important the galaxy s's are hard to beat.

I am kind of deciding if I'm getting an HD2, mainly because of its flexibility.
The Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant is also on my list, and the display seems nice.
Battery life is my other major consideration. It looks to me that the Galaxy S Vibrant isn't very good at battery life, and that fellow users here have quite varying report on the battery life of HD2 (with android). It's hard to decide.....
and if I read correctly, the large capacity battery of the HD2 isn't support by android (or is it?)

I have both the vibrant and the HD2. I can say if you want a gorgeous screen, light as hell phone with lots of power under the hood (somewhat flaky Gps) then get the vibrant.
If you want to Tinker A LOT with a huge screen (not as vivid) and lots of power under the hood also then get the HD2.
I personally like the vibrant more but love to Tinker and the vibrant scene is sloooow going (thanks samsung) the HD2 is a dream of you love to mess around with you phone a lot.
The only thing for me I don't like right now about the HD2 is the horrid battery life when in android.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

abelau said:
I am kind of deciding if I'm getting an HD2, mainly because of its flexibility.
The Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant is also on my list, and the display seems nice.
Battery life is my other major consideration. It looks to me that the Galaxy S Vibrant isn't very good at battery life, and that fellow users here have quite varying report on the battery life of HD2 (with android). It's hard to decide.....
and if I read correctly, the large capacity battery of the HD2 isn't support by android (or is it?)
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hey i dont know if that can help i have both, i prefect galaxy s screen,battery,weight. i almost dont feel in my pocket, processor is very good too
screen when i see the same photo and the same program i just say wow
i hope that help....

HD2
+ highly modifiable
+ WINMO, ANDROID, UBUNTU, (MAYBE WP7)
+ TOMTOM (only winmo!)
+ PSX GAMES with PS3 controller (only winmo!)
+ android running atm with > 24 hrs normal use, wifi, a lot of texting and calling
- Android not 100% stable atm
- weight (it's not light, but you get used to it fast)
- no front camera (I would have loved that)
- speaker is in front, but media speaker is at the back, that's really a dealbreaker, I don't know how the Desire HD is doing on that part
- if you ONLY want android, don't pick HD2, I get a lot of time without signal (tried a dozen radio's, nothing solves the problem perfectly)
I had a samsung before I bought my HD2 and it sucked, but running android, it might be worth giving it a try. My phone before (the samsung) glass broke after one week I had it.. I hope samsung learned from it and made their screens better.
+ for the HD2, my phone fell down on the floor REALLY HARD about 6 times allready, only thing that always gets loose is battery cover, but my screen is still intact, allthough my phone 4/6 times landed on the screen itself and not on the back.
I would go for a desire HD, but I don't know if there are phones that HTC is releasing any time soon? My HD2 costed my 600 EUR so I would like to be certain that if I buy a new phone, that it's the best of the best. Like you I guess
My advice, wait... don't buy the galaxy S, a friend of my has a galaxy, it doesn't really differ much. I bet in 2 months, the next gen of devices will be even more wicked.
LCD or AMOLED (both have positive and negative sides, that's a little subjective)

If you only want to run android, get a native android phone. If you want to spent a lot of time hacking and setting up your phone and play with different OS's, then get a hd2. But understand that you have to have the time to spend researching and setting up up to get it stable and the way you want. It's not for the everyday person who just wants a phone that just works out of the box.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

HectiQ said:
HD2
+ highly modifiable
+ WINMO, ANDROID, UBUNTU, (MAYBE WP7)
+ TOMTOM (only winmo!)
+ PSX GAMES with PS3 controller (only winmo!)
+ android running atm with > 24 hrs normal use, wifi, a lot of texting and calling
- Android not 100% stable atm
- weight (it's not light, but you get used to it fast)
- no front camera (I would have loved that)
- speaker is in front, but media speaker is at the back, that's really a dealbreaker, I don't know how the Desire HD is doing on that part
- if you ONLY want android, don't pick HD2, I get a lot of time without signal (tried a dozen radio's, nothing solves the problem perfectly)
I had a samsung before I bought my HD2 and it sucked, but running android, it might be worth giving it a try. My phone before (the samsung) glass broke after one week I had it.. I hope samsung learned from it and made their screens better.
+ for the HD2, my phone fell down on the floor REALLY HARD about 6 times allready, only thing that always gets loose is battery cover, but my screen is still intact, allthough my phone 4/6 times landed on the screen itself and not on the back.
I would go for a desire HD, but I don't know if there are phones that HTC is releasing any time soon? My HD2 costed my 600 EUR so I would like to be certain that if I buy a new phone, that it's the best of the best. Like you I guess
My advice, wait... don't buy the galaxy S, a friend of my has a galaxy, it doesn't really differ much. I bet in 2 months, the next gen of devices will be even more wicked.
LCD or AMOLED (both have positive and negative sides, that's a little subjective)
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whoa psx games in winmo? how can i do that?

Cobaltcontroller

Had an HD2, got a Vibrant, came back to the HD2. I found the Vibrant to be too laggy even with custom ROMS​

HectiQ said:
Cobaltcontroller
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thats the name of the app to play the psx games?

Nismo300zx said:
thats the name of the app to play the psx games?
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Cobaltcontroller is what allows you to use ps3 or Wii controllers through bluetooth... fpsece is the playstation emulator. A very good one, too, with years of development work behind it.
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i have both as well. if you want a native android phone then get the vibrant. cm6 is close to being ported over and 2.2 update should be able by the end of this month. gps issues seemed to have been fixed under the current wave of OTA updates.
the processor especially the gpu on the vibrant is the best i've seen. it's right up there with the iphone4. i'm not surprised since samsung is the one who makes the iphone 4 processor lol. after rooting and overclocked the vibrant to my liking, i'm pulling quadrant scores over 2400 lol. although these scores some times are inflated it goes to show you that the samsung processor is on a different level over the last gen 1ghz snapdragon.
the hd2 is nice due to its huge screen and ability to port different OS. i'm actually waiting to see if we can port over win mo 7 on to it.

adamvanner said:
The AMOLED screens that samsungs use (and license to apple for the iphone) are the main reason to consider as a plus for samsung.
HD2 is a year old now, but, until the DesireHD comes out, is still the best phone on the market across the piece and has actually got better as people develop for it. There is now a effective choice of 5 operating systems. Cotulla even suggested that iOS would run well on it!
So if flexibility, speed and a big screen are important, get an HD2
If a bright screen is important the galaxy s's are hard to beat.
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The iPhone uses TFT-LCD screens. No one is licensed to use Samsung's screens except them. Also my cousin sitting next to me right now has a vibrant, the screen isn't necessarily brighter, but it's more vivid and the colors are better. Personally the Samsung crapware really sucks, too.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

I have both, I would go with the Vibrant. It's has hands down the best screen n GPU of any phone. It'll probably offer the most relevancy in the long run. The HD2 imo is one of the best phones to be released but I'll go with the Vibrant if I had to choose one.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk

abelau said:
I am kind of deciding if I'm getting an HD2, mainly because of its flexibility.
The Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant is also on my list, and the display seems nice.
Battery life is my other major consideration. It looks to me that the Galaxy S Vibrant isn't very good at battery life, and that fellow users here have quite varying report on the battery life of HD2 (with android). It's hard to decide.....
and if I read correctly, the large capacity battery of the HD2 isn't support by android (or is it?)
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HTC makes an extended battery for the HD2 with a kickstand built in.
i have one, it is amazing. i can go 3 days on my HD2 without charging.
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**Video and Benchmark Uploaded** anyone considering LG Optimus S? I'm impressed

I was in the sprint store today and notice the Optimus S and was IMPRESSSED.
It's very responsive and smooth. I was really curious to why and after some research..
Qualcomm MSM7627 chipset with dual cores really help with graphics and games.
technical specs:
* Two ARM cores integrated into a single chip – a dedicated CPU core and a dedicated modem processor – for an unparalleled level of integration:
o 1. 600MHz applications processor with floating point unit and L2 cache
o 2. 400MHz modem processor
Finally Got it
Here's my video showcasing the SPEED of apps and games:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4chj2BOUec4
-1st app I launch was GoogleMaps, then Youtube, Angry Birds, and Burning Tires
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Compared it side by side (I have overclocked hero)
What I liked..
-TONS faster than hero, website scrolling smmooooth
-It's only $50...
-3G so no $10 surcharge
-Slightly brighter
-I believe it was 512mb ram (hero has 256?)
-Doesn't feel cheap at all
What didn't liked...
-No led light, but there's some apps that can make your phone vibrate for notifications
-Fiberglass display (scratches easier, but will not crack if dropped)

mxl180 said:
I was in the sprint store today and notice the Optimus S and was IMPRESSSED.
It's very responsive and smooth. I was really curious to why and after some research..
Qualcomm MSM7627 chipset with dual cores really help with graphics and games.
technical specs:
* Two ARM cores integrated into a single chip – a dedicated CPU core and a dedicated modem processor – for an unparalleled level of integration:
o 1. 600MHz applications processor with floating point unit and L2 cache
o 2. 400MHz modem processor
Compared it side by side (I have overclocked hero)
What I liked..
-Faster than hero, website scrolling smmooooth
-It's only $50...
-3G so no $10 surcharge
-Slightly brighter
-I believe it was 512mb ram (hero has 256?)
What didn't liked...
-No led light, but there's some apps that can make your phone vibrate for notifications
-Fiberglass display (scratches easier, but will not crack if dropped)
-Something I notice the DATA loading was noticeably slower on LG, maybe because my hero is cynogenmod data tweaked??
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i have both phones and i love the optimus. it loads up real fast compared to the hero. i will not get rid of my optimus unless it is for an evo. that is how good of a phone that i think it is. it also has alot hotter receiver in it and gets a signal in places that i couldn't before. overall i rate it an 8.5 out of 10

mdpirello said:
i have both phones and i love the optimus. it loads up real fast compared to the hero. i will not get rid of my optimus unless it is for an evo. that is how good of a phone that i think it is. it also has alot hotter receiver in it and gets a signal in places that i couldn't before. overall i rate it an 8.5 out of 10
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Mm, thats nice to hear. Maybe my mom would like an Optimus instead of her crappy blackberry.

Intersting, I didn't expect it to be that great! Now I'm looking forward to try one out

I was looking at the Optimus too. My heart REALLY wants an Evo but my head just cant justify paying for the 4g service when it's not in my area and probably wont be for a very long time.

I just bought this phone and I am in LOVE. It feels soo good in your hand, perfect weight and balance. The screen is vibrant, battery life good, and with froyo 2.2 it is amazingly buttery smooth. It makes the EVO seem like a goliath in a good way. Perfect phone and I've owned alot of phones. Now wheres our roms??!

My sister just got one of these and I was thoroughly surprises as well. The speed of this phone puts the hero to shame. Everything is fast and smooth with no lag anywhere. The scrolling the app drawer and most noticeably the typing are all fast and smooth. I'm running cm6.1 overlooked and here phone stock is 10 times better. Angry birds runs perfect on it and the gallery and camera have no hesitation when opening or being used. This is a good phone. I'm seriously considering buying it to hold over until another top of the line is released for gingerbread.
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I was thinking about the lg. before we moved to verizon.. But since getting the droid incredible..I cant think of any android I would rather have atm..perfect size. and everything just blazes.. Sprint really needs something like the DINC without 4g.. etc,, cause they have a big hole in the android selection..
Those midrange.. like the sanyo and sammy. both suck.. basicly they need a evo with a smaller screen and no 3g. oh wait thats the DINC..lol
Thats the only thing I like bout verizon the selection... Sprint always has gaps.
But that lg does like pretty decent.. might tell my bro.. since he has one of my heros atm.. still have 2 in my dresser with my tp2 and a tour..

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My sister just got one of these and I was thoroughly surprises as well. The speed of this phone puts the hero to shame. Everything is fast and smooth with no lag anywhere. The scrolling the app drawer and most noticeably the typing are all fast and smooth. I'm running cm6.1 overlooked and here phone stock is 10 times better. Angry birds runs perfect on it and the gallery and camera have no hesitation when opening or being used. This is a good phone. I'm seriously considering buying it to hold over until another top of the line is released for gingerbread.
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I just tried it at the store and completely agree, it's a suuuuuper fast and smooth experience. I don't know how they did it, but it's a joy to use.
I also agree with the comment above me. The Droid Incredible has the best balance of performance and physical size, and it would be awesome if Sprint had something similar without the 4G $10/mo surcharge.

At first I was a little iffy about letting a relative get the Optimus S before I got a chance to use it and read up on the drvice. Boy was I blown away by the phones speed and smoothness. Its a nice device that I wouldn't mind having for daily use.
Form factor is nice as well. It would be nice is a few showed up on eBay at a reasonable price,I'd be interested in getting one off contract to hold be over if I need a phone.
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It will be $1.00 at Best Buy on Black Friday. I also saw something about it being FREE at Radio Shack.
I've been reading up on this phone all over on different forums and from what I've learned:
Rooting can be accomplished by using Z4Root from the Market - even after the recent OTA update.
The OTA update includes Swype.
No Flash yet. The GPU is fast enough, but apparently it isn't supported by Adobe. Not sure 100%, but the GPU may be missing a certain hardware component to allow for true GPU-accelerated Flash. It would explain part of the cheaper price.

I dont care how good it is, I will never in LIFE buy any LG phone i dont care how fast or sleek it is I just wont.....what.....I have my reasons lol. HTC for the win or samsung. That is all.

dirkyd3rk said:
I dont care how good it is, I will never in LIFE buy any LG phone i dont care how fast or sleek it is I just wont.....what.....I have my reasons lol. HTC for the win or samsung. That is all.
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Agreed!

Haha, I agree on the HTC front - they know how to make a sweet phone, but have you seen the garbage that is the Samsung Intercept and Samsung Transform? Complete junk. The only I had two Samsung phones in my life - some old silver flip phone, and the A900 (best flip phone ever!), but as far as I can tell the only quality phone they make now is the Epic (and variants).

Samsung Intercept and Samsung Transform?
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And Samsung Moment all use the same processor and have an OpenGL ready chipset and no OpenGL drivers. This makes the phones crap. The Intercept is also EVDO Rev.0 which I believe fixed the radio lock bug that plagued the Moment. The transform is Rev.A (without the radio lock) but the same attrocious OpenGL performance. Samsung has completely failed at producing decent mid and low range android devices. it's remarkable.

thats why sprint needs a middle of the ground high performer. like the htc incredible.. even though i hate verizon.. This phone has really impressed me so far..

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thats why sprint needs a middle of the ground high performer. like the htc incredible.. even though i hate verizon.. This phone has really impressed me so far..
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Forget middle of the road, I want a beastly dual core 4g monster!

A Sprint branded Desire Z/G2 would be really, really nice. I think Cyanogen said the G2 totally blows away his previous N1.

stayclean said:
A Sprint branded Desire Z/G2 would be really, really nice. I think Cyanogen said the G2 totally blows away his previous N1.
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Yeah, that with dual core!!!

Hero also haas a "dual core" modem/app processor. Technically the dual core devices that ate soon to got are tri core
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Opinions on HTC Desire Z/G2

I'm looking to buy a Desire Z as a gift, and wanted to get some second opinions on the phone. Is the keyboard decent? What's the speed like? How sturdy is the keyboard hinge?
Also, is it fairly easy to root?
I've got an original Desire myself so if it's a roughly similar experience to that but with a keyboard then that'll be good.
Cheers

It's a great phone, 2nd Gen Snapdragon, Adreno 205 GPU...but it is also fairly late in it's life. The keyboard is great, and while people have differing opinions on the hinge, I haven't had any problems.
Just know that it doesn't hold a candle to the 1GB Ram/Dual Core beasts being released today.
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The hinge problem has been previously blown up, it is fine.
I couldn't imagine living and typing longer than an sms without a keyboard, I still love it and use it for longer input. If I was buying a phone now I probably could sacrifice the keyboard for a front camera or more CPU power or so. I could even buy a Desire S or a Sensation (just to be in this pricerange). Phones change quickly, quadband is here, I still love this phone.
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in my opinion its still a great phone... sure there are better ones out now rooting isn´t that easy, but not very hard too (if you know how to use adb, you are fine) If you are on 2.3+ it could happen that you need to create a goldcard while rooting...
...what rather concerns me right now is the fact that a lot of people seem to have a problem with a fried emmc chip.
here is a link to the wiki-guide for rooting (so you see how its done):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision

Thanks. Dual core and that isn't a concern, the intended owner is not really fussed about those kind of things, having a keyboard is more important, and I trust HTC as a brand.
Have ordered one now.

h0kum said:
Thanks. Dual core and that isn't a concern, the intended owner is not really fussed about those kind of things, having a keyboard is more important, and I trust HTC as a brand.
Have ordered one now.
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You won't regret it! Great phone with great devs taking care of it
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Like everyone said is great options is not a bad phone every 3d games or apps i like is here. U can use hulu plus and netflix. Adobe flash player 11.
Gameloft hd games
Glu hd games
And other what not to like about this phone? lol
does hd recording 720 p.
It have best keyboard after g1.

in my opinion its still a great phone... sure there are better ones out now
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I sure wish you could NAME a better phone that is out now!
Remember, it must have the reliability, style, and expensive feel of the G2, must have a great hardware (real) keyboard and beautiful gorilla glass screen like G2, and must be root/developer friendly, have removable battery, and it must provide wifi calling in my weak signal area and free tethering and portable wifi hotspot, and do all of this for US$60/month no-contract service with unlimited 4G everything and no overage charges possible like my G2!
what better one ya got that does all of that?
that's right - NOTHING!

WTF? said:
I sure wish you could NAME a better phone that is out now!
Remember, it must have the reliability, style, and expensive feel of the G2, must have a great hardware (real) keyboard and beautiful gorilla glass screen like G2, and must be root/developer friendly, have removable battery, and it must provide wifi calling in my weak signal area and free tethering and portable wifi hotspot, and do all of this for US$60/month no-contract service with unlimited 4G everything and no overage charges possible like my G2!
what better one ya got that does all of that?
that's right - NOTHING!
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An iPhone
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An iPhone
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Ahah u can't be serious because the iphail contains none of the above..
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I concur, there is nothing else out there I could see me replacing it with at the moment. I need a hardware keyboard.. More ram and a faster CPU would be handy though... Refreshed DZ required

Great phone, and i will use this as long as it works. I'v had this about little over 11months now, no problems. Only thing is, screen has one frozen pixel in it, tough it's on the side, close to a corner so i barely even notice it, if i look for it, i can see it.
There is Motorola Droid 4 coming, sure looks nice whit that 5-row qwerty. If i would have waited a year longer to upgrade to smartphone world, id get it when it comes.
Now i'm planing on getting a tablet, to get the horsepower going on android. possibly transformer prime, or smth, wonder what CES brings to the table.
I love this phone! Sorry i got drifted to little off topic here.

I won't get another phone until there is a worthy successor. I would like to stick with HTC and I need a qwerty KB (well strongly prefer to have one) so here is hoping for a G3 sometime soon.
Until then though I still get great performance so no immediate rush.

There was also a Samsung qwerty slider I was reading about a while back, can't seem to find the article anymore.

Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens

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Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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spec: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i927_captivate_glide-4071.php
look awesome tho. its like galaxy s2+keyboard

hopefully Q1 2012..
Dell Hancock.
Google it.

ewww iphone unless u want to be locked. Even with android without rooting u still will not be lock as you are with iphone.
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I agree with flinny if they can refresh desire z 2 aka htc t-mobile g3 with stock in usa. I would love to have front face camera,1gb of ram i hate using my mirror to video chat. Get amoled screen back like nexus one. Add the hardware 5 key rows they had on g1 to g3 .
Hopefully stop selling to many damn Htc phone their selling about 10-15 device every year i wish they can stay with 3-5. Limited their work because then they make users like me hack my phone to get update, that they should be doing themselves. Instead of making excuses on why they cant update 1 device to the other.

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Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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Looked very interesting to me at first, but reviews have been far from stellar:
[URL="http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-captivate-glide-at/4505-6452_7-35033579.html?tag=mncol;rvwBody#reviewPage1"]http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/20/review-samsung-captivate-glide-att/[/URL]
Looks like cheap exterior build quality, and crappy flat keyboard. Nice screen, but hardware specs are merely ok compared to other high end phones currently being released. A Galaxy IIS spec phone with decent keyboard would be killer. But this ain't that.
Can't any manufacturers come out with a high-spec phone, with a decent keyboard?

Anyone Else Tired of Their Desire Z/G2?

Honestly not sure if its the phone or the OS Im tired of. Have been using my G2 for over a year, been using Android for the same amount of time (G2 was my first Android device). Lately I haven't been interested in trying any ROMs, none have really peaked my interest to be honest due to the little issues in them. Not sure what I should do from here......
End of small rant.
Anyone else feel the same way or am I alone?

I still love the phone but I am definitely getting a little bored with it. Same as with most things. After so long of use, it feels like it is time for something new.

I use MIUI and it seems the fastest and smoothest to me (probably as good as you can get on the hardware), so getting bored I try other ROMs but they aren't as smooth so I go back to MIUI. I think ICS might spice things up for a little while l, but I think an upgrade might help.
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It's called "consumerism". Just use your DZ till it dies of a natural death >.>

i wasn't bored of it, i was simply tired of the lag, missed messages and genrally just the lack of RAM.
i took the plunge and moved to the desire HD (couldnt afford anything newer)
and i notice the difference in ram immediately, there are LOADS more apps open at once now, and everything just generally feels snappier. and even with all my apps open i have 100mb+ ram left, constantly,
it's a shame that the DZ didnt have more ram, because otherwise i think i could've stuck with it for so much longer.

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.... Lately I haven't been interested in trying any ROMs, none have really peaked my interest to be honest...
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Damnit I thanked instead of quoting at first. Oh well.
It's "piqued," FYI.

I still use mine all the time. I have ICS on it. And with supercharger it's plenty fast. And I can text sweet things to my gf much easier and quicker using the keyboard. That being said get a hercules and rock both.
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What's with all of these posts really...If you're "tired" of the phone go buy another one and use this as a backup. A lot of people do it lately.

Sure - I would be happy to buy a new phone, just as soon as you can invent a phone that has the G2's reliability, developer support, style, at least as good of a real keyboard, display quality, and make sure it works with T-mobile so I can have unlimited everything, including wifi hotspot, free tethering and free wifi calling, and no overage charges possible for only $60/month no-contract!
Yeah, that's what I thought, the G2 has no upgrade that can be made, because it is the best phone/carrier combo out there!
But I do wish there was a magical way to have the reception in rural area and LTE deep building penetration that I envy on Verizon (but I don't envy paying nearly $200/month for the features listed above!)

Still love my phone since the day I got it. Reliable and tough, stylish and sleek. I do look forward to an upgrade, but it's not something that i'm set my heart to. Can't really beat the DZ =)

Can someone just lock this post? It's so silly to post stuff like this.
If you're tired of it, then get a new phone.

g2 has been an awesome phone especially for my first Android phone but I can't wait for the next g series or maybe I'll try out the gnex. Contracts not up till October so hopefully there'll be something cool out then

After a year of using something u naturally get bored of it but if ur that boored of it try getting a mytouch4gslide
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Not bored,
I recently tried a few things to give my G2 a different look and feel. Here's what I have:
meXdroidMod Atomic ROM -- been using meXdroidMod for awhile now
GO Launcher EX ICS theme -- cool screen transitions, my favorite is sphere
GO Locker -- ICS style, and I don't have date and time showing
GO SMS Pro -- I have had this for awhile
GO Weather -- besides HD video background, I like the Temperature Trend among some of the other features
With a couple of apps and also creating shortcuts to access them easily and quickly, i find my G2 very useful and not boring. Now if only I had a bigger screen...

I never understood this emotion where people get bored of things and feel the need to get the newest stuff. To me, the G2 is a solid device and the only time I would ever think of changing is out of necessity: not so much boredom. If I needed a faster GPU or a larger screen or better speakers and so forth: I can definitely understand the decision then because you have a practical purpose for the future device. But to be bored of a device and wanting to upgrade for no other reason because of it is exactly what companies want you to do. convolution put it best, "consumerism", but I would also add the word "affluence" as well.

WTF? said:
Sure - I would be happy to buy a new phone, just as soon as you can invent a phone that has the G2's reliability, developer support, style, at least as good of a real keyboard, display quality, and make sure it works with T-mobile so I can have unlimited everything, including wifi hotspot, free tethering and free wifi calling, and no overage charges possible for only $60/month no-contract!
Yeah, that's what I thought, the G2 has no upgrade that can be made, because it is the best phone/carrier combo out there!
But I do wish there was a magical way to have the reception in rural area and LTE deep building penetration that I envy on Verizon (but I don't envy paying nearly $200/month for the features listed above!)
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Lol you must be delusional. This is a great phone, but as soon as I find a nexus s I'm going back. Not only is the phone faster in both the CPU and gpu department, the wolfson sound chip is a god send for music lovers (the g2 can't power my 120$ Sony earbuds and as a result aren't as loud/bass cuts out at low frequencies) , you can't beat the samoled screen (after a little tweaking with voodoo colors it gives a better pq than my 40" ex400) and to top it off ics is smooth as a gyroscope. I can't tell a difference scrolling around home screens and menus compared to my buddies gnex. Dev support is off the charts. IMO the nexus s is the device to have over a gnex or gs2.
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Lol you must be delusional. This is a great phone, but as soon as I find a nexus s I'm going back. Not only is the phone faster in both the CPU and gpu department, the wolfson sound chip is a god send for music lovers (the g2 can't power my 120$ Sony earbuds and as a result aren't as loud/bass cuts out at low frequencies) , you can't beat the samoled screen (after a little tweaking with voodoo colors it gives a better pq than my 40" ex400) and to top it off ics is smooth as a gyroscope. I can't tell a difference scrolling around home screens and menus compared to my buddies gnex. Dev support is off the charts. IMO the nexus s is the device to have over a gnex or gs2.
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Ill tell you what though. This battery life is AMAZING. Running ilwt cm7 @1.3 ghz ondemand with backround data on.
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WTF? said:
Sure - I would be happy to buy a new phone, just as soon as you can invent a phone that has the G2's reliability, developer support, style, at least as good of a real keyboard, display quality, and make sure it works with T-mobile so I can have unlimited everything, including wifi hotspot, free tethering and free wifi calling, and no overage charges possible for only $60/month no-contract!
Yeah, that's what I thought, the G2 has no upgrade that can be made, because it is the best phone/carrier combo out there!
But I do wish there was a magical way to have the reception in rural area and LTE deep building penetration that I envy on Verizon (but I don't envy paying nearly $200/month for the features listed above!)
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truth, it must be quoted. I've yet to see a newer phone with all the qualities I want in a phone. I'm extremely lucky that I got this phone with my family's contract, I had no idea of the developer support behind it when I did choose it.

G2 is my first android device too. And also one year I have been using it. I love my G2 just because it my "first time". I've tried almost every Rom from xda. And now using sense 3.5. But, frankly speaking, I'm considering t buy a new better one.
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Lol you must be delusional. This is a great phone, but as soon as I find a nexus s I'm going back. Not only is the phone faster in both the CPU and gpu department, the wolfson sound chip is a god send for music lovers (the g2 can't power my 120$ Sony earbuds and as a result aren't as loud/bass cuts out at low frequencies) , you can't beat the samoled screen (after a little tweaking with voodoo colors it gives a better pq than my 40" ex400) and to top it off ics is smooth as a gyroscope. I can't tell a difference scrolling around home screens and menus compared to my buddies gnex. Dev support is off the charts. IMO the nexus s is the device to have over a gnex or gs2.
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Wow, that audio chip intrigues me. I primarily use my phone as a music player at the gym and I like my music loud. However I get distortion when I try to adjust the frequencies past a certain point. Is this Wolfson chip a solution?