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Should I sell my Android HD2 and get a Vibrant (Galaxy S)?

So anyways, I bought my HD2 a month ago when T-Mobile had the free smart phone promotion. I had been torn over this and the MyTouch Slide for a number of reasons (native Android being the primary plus for the Slide), but in the end I chose the HD2 because of the superior hardware and oh so sexy form factor.
Flash forward a month, and T-Mobile now offers a solid top-tier android phone (Vibrant) and XDA has made some serious leaps and bounds in terms of Android on the HD2. I just loaded DarkStone's sense on my HD2 last night and I am simply amazed.
My dilemma is this: While Froyo on the HD2 is pretty stable at this point, there are still a number of bugs that need to be addressed (3G capability, wifi sharing, battery life, 20 second screen freezes, USB transfer, etc). Darkstone's software on the HD2 has given me a taste of the power of Android, however its still a ways off from being a polished product. While I like the concept, I just can't get over the fact that I have to use a beta product as a daily use device.
I could sell my HD2 for around $400 (most likely $350ish), and get the Vibrant new from T-mobile for $500. The Vibrant isn't nearly as solid, refined, or stylish as the HD2 (in fact, it feels cheap and flimsy), but it is NATIVE android and is getting rave reviews. However the future of the Android on the HD2 looks bright, even though it is some time away...
What would you guys do? Should I eat the $150 and get the Vibrant? Or should I man up and keep the HD2 lab rat?

i currently have both phones and use the hd2 for work. both are solid in their respective areas.
to you, it seems it boils down to OS. you seem to prefer android much more over the aging win mo OS. the android ports look very very promising although none are completely stable. it would be easy for me to tell you and get the vibrant and its native android support. however, the vibrant also comes with its own set up issues namely gps and compass and its cheap and plastic build.
if you don't want to lose money on your existing contract, it might be a good idea to wait for some true hsdpa/hspa+ android handsets to come out via t-mobile. there is supposedly the htc glacier in december and htc vision aka g1 blaze late next month which has a slide out keyboard. and in waiting, hopefully, better and more stable builds for the hd2 will be coming out.
dinanS52 said:
So anyways, I bought my HD2 a month ago when T-Mobile had the free smart phone promotion. I had been torn over this and the MyTouch Slide for a number of reasons (native Android being the primary plus for the Slide), but in the end I chose the HD2 because of the superior hardware and oh so sexy form factor.
Flash forward a month, and T-Mobile now offers a solid top-tier android phone (Vibrant) and XDA has made some serious leaps and bounds in terms of Android on the HD2. I just loaded DarkStone's sense on my HD2 last night and I am simply amazed.
My dilemma is this: While Froyo on the HD2 is pretty stable at this point, there are still a number of bugs that need to be addressed (3G capability, wifi sharing, battery life, 20 second screen freezes, USB transfer, etc). Darkstone's software on the HD2 has given me a taste of the power of Android, however its still a ways off from being a polished product. While I like the concept, I just can't get over the fact that I have to use a beta product as a daily use device.
I could sell my HD2 for around $400 (most likely $350ish), and get the Vibrant new from T-mobile for $500. The Vibrant isn't nearly as solid, refined, or stylish as the HD2 (in fact, it feels cheap and flimsy), but it is NATIVE android and is getting rave reviews. However the future of the Android on the HD2 looks bright, even though it is some time away...
What would you guys do? Should I eat the $150 and get the Vibrant? Or should I man up and keep the HD2 lab rat?
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ryan562 said:
i currently have both phones and use the hd2 for work. both are solid in their respective areas.
to you, it seems it boils down to OS. you seem to prefer android much more over the aging win mo OS. the android ports look very very promising although none are completely stable. it would be easy for me to tell you and get the vibrant and its native android support. however, the vibrant also comes with its own set up issues namely gps and compass and its cheap and plastic build.
if you don't want to lose money on your existing contract, it might be a good idea to wait for some true hsdpa/hspa+ android handsets to come out via t-mobile. there is supposedly the htc glacier in december and htc vision aka g1 blaze late next month which has a slide out keyboard. and in waiting, hopefully, better and more stable builds for the hd2 will be coming out.
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dammit. now in a few months, im gonna want the glacier.... dual core proccessor on a phone!?!?! :drool: and other technology will be available then then, prolly gonna have like a 10mp camera.... why would you post that, no im gonna be mad wanting that phone.... grrrrr lol
as for the question, i would say, which do you want more, solid phone, or a solid operating system?
vibrant= solid droid OS, not so solid, el cheapo phone
hd2, second best phone available (behind the evo) solid (yet no very good stock) win mo OS, with the option to upgrade the ROM, and also be able to dual boot a working, but not perfectly solid android OS...
choice is yours, hd2 seems better to me, better phone platform, more options when it comes to OS's

that's the power and temptation of android lol every six months we'll be seeing a better phone. btw, i also forgot about the upcoming mytouch hd. not sure when that one's gonna come out lol.
btw, not to completely knock on the vibrant but its processor is superfast and gpu is excellent for gaming. watching and playing movies and 3d games side by side, there is no comparison vs. the hd2, the vibrant wins hands down. when froyo comes out for vibrant, i am guessing it will outshine the nexus or any other android device in its league on 2.2 by far. but yeah my only knock on the vibrant is the build quality and gps issues.
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dammit. now in a few months, im gonna want the glacier.... dual core proccessor on a phone!?!?! :drool: and other technology will be available then then, prolly gonna have like a 10mp camera.... why would you post that, no im gonna be mad wanting that phone.... grrrrr lol
as for the question, i would say, which do you want more, solid phone, or a solid operating system?
vibrant= solid droid OS, not so solid, el cheapo phone
hd2, second best phone available (behind the evo) solid (yet no very good stock) win mo OS, with the option to upgrade the ROM, and also be able to dual boot a working, but not perfectly solid android OS...
choice is yours, hd2 seems better to me, better phone platform, more options when it comes to OS's
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Your the 3rd person to ask this lol...i say keep the hd2 and just wait a couple of months till some thing better comes out...android is pretty stable on the hd2 right now...its def very usable...i havent used windows in 2 weeks...
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i have grossly underestimated my samsung galaxy/vibrant and its potential. this is still at android 2.1 while rooted.
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I'm still trying to figure out how the OP thinks he's getting 350-400 for a used hd2???
If you like android, get a dedicated android phone. I haven't used the vibrant, but the reviews love the hardware specs, but say it feels cheap. I wonder what that means in a couple of months for durability.

nrfitchett4 said:
I'm still trying to figure out how the OP thinks he's getting 350-400 for a used hd2???
If you like android, get a dedicated android phone. I haven't used the vibrant, but the reviews love the hardware specs, but say it feels cheap. I wonder what that means in a couple of months for durability.
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only time will tell on durability issues
t-mobile sells a great rubber/silicone shell cover to protect the phone from serious damage.
btw, here's a drop test+scratch test vid on the vibrant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmqe9G5TIOg

acually to the guy who talked about getting 350-400 for and hd2 i traded my hd2 str8 up for a brand new in boc vibrant

I've use the Vibrant for a while and used the HD2 and the build quality is so different. The Vibrant is a cheapo plastic phone that I think will have problems because of it's size compared to it's strength.
I'm not chipping in because of that though. It's because no one has mentioned the the Vib is made by Samsung, which I don't trust. They make good spec'd hardware but it just isn't the same as HTC and they will probably not support the phone as long. On paper the Vib looks good and it does perform well but I just don't see it withstanding the test of time.
It won't be too long till we get a stable full build of Android that we can flash right on over the HD2 and make it almost a complete Android phone.

I have an HD2 running Darkstones froyosense v2 now and my wife has the Vibrant...both are outstanding phones.
The Vibrant is super light and thin but if you put a thin TPU case on it (you can get 5 for $8.00 all over ebay) the phone feels much more durable...the screen is amazing and blows the HD2 out of the water when side by side
The HD2 feels good in my hands and has a bit of weight (which I do like) I have a TPU case on mine as well and have never been afraid to toss it onto the sofa table as I walk in the door from work...The screen looks pretty good and the extra .3 inches makes a pretty big difference when holding the two phones side by side playing movies. (just dont compare contrast)
I will say though...my HD2 running Android off the SDcard still gets about 5-6 hours more out of a full charge than my wifes Vibrant, and I would bet that I use mine more than she does as well...I have asked several people who also own a Vibrant about battery life and it seems that is a pretty weak point on them...I am guessing that it has something to so with the SAMOLED display (even turned all the way down, its still just as bright as my HD2 cranked up 3/4 of the way)
I have been using Android on my HD2 now since early July and have not booted into windows since...Darkstones ROMs are super stable for me.
I think either way though, you would not be disappointed. I was going to get the Vibrant as well when it launched, but like everyone else...I want to wait for the next Android leap.

I've been fighting this question as well. Like the OP, I've been running Android on my HD2 for a while now. With the HD7 on the way, I am looking to get away from Windows Mobile. Since I hate the "new" Phone 7 interface, I am leaning heavily towards Android.
I've been an open-source proponent since the birth of Linux (yes, I'm old) and am really waiting for a decent Linux phone to show up. In the meantime, I'm very pleased with Android. It is everything that I ever wanted in a phone and it is still actively being updated, unlike Windows Mobile. Once Microsoft fulfills their OEM contracts, Windows Mobile will dry up overnight and I don't want to be around for that day.
I am very jealous of my co-workers and their Evos and Droids, but I'm not willing to walk away from a world-phone carrier like T-Mobile. I feel really great knowing that I could take a quick trip to West Africa to visit my family there and be able to pick up a prepaid sim card there without needing a new phone.
None of the Android phones heading to T-Mobile in the near future are meeting my wants at this point. Whatever I end up with, you can guarantee that it will be made by HTC. Whether it's AT&T or T-Mobile is still up in the air...

I like the HD2 mainly because you can dual boot. It's nice having two os's.

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I've been fighting this question as well. Like the OP, I've been running Android on my HD2 for a while now. With the HD7 on the way, I am looking to get away from Windows Mobile. Since I hate the "new" Phone 7 interface, I am leaning heavily towards Android.
I've been an open-source proponent since the birth of Linux (yes, I'm old) and am really waiting for a decent Linux phone to show up. In the meantime, I'm very pleased with Android. It is everything that I ever wanted in a phone and it is still actively being updated, unlike Windows Mobile. Once Microsoft fulfills their OEM contracts, Windows Mobile will dry up overnight and I don't want to be around for that day.
I am very jealous of my co-workers and their Evos and Droids, but I'm not willing to walk away from a world-phone carrier like T-Mobile. I feel really great knowing that I could take a quick trip to West Africa to visit my family there and be able to pick up...
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I am a former HD2 owner. I loved my HD2, and sadly feel, like you hating the new WP7, that the HD2 might very well be the last great WinMo phone. And say what you will about WinMo 6.5.X, but I think it was way more customizable than the current Android phones. So many task bars & icons, slider, clock mods, Roms and themes, etc, not to mention many have said it did not have the FPS cap that cripples the EVO (until you root it, and now much easier to do on 2.2).
As T-Mobile had extremely poor signal in my home, that is the ONLY reason I sold it. If it had been on VZW, it would have been a keeper. And thus my journey began....... and I hope this will help you out.
So, dumping the HD2, and NOT wanting a WP7 phone, I was going to an Android phone. The Samsung Vibrant just came out and the specs "looked good on paper". None of the usual suspects had one in stock, but my local Radio Shack had one left.
To make the story a bit shorter, I tried the Vibrant in the hopes it might have a better radio in it for T-Mobile, not! So I returned it for an AT&T Captivate. AT&T had a way better signal, so thought to be a keeper, but that too was not to be. You see, once you love HTC's Sense, you are spoiled! Samsung's TouchWiz IMO pales in comparison. And as I still had my HD2 yet, I kept looking at it longingly. So it ended up most of my time with the Captivate was spent on the Marketplace trying to buy widgets (and e-mail as well as other programs) to make it have "Sense". Too many bugs and problems with what I bought off the Marketplace, and again, IMHO, nothing feels like an HD2 except another HD2 or, .......the EVO from Sprint! So dumped the Captivate, bought the EVO, and never regretted it one bit! For now, I have a sturdy feeling phone with EXCELLENT build quality over any Samsung, and now have the REAL Sense! And that also means I have the better HTC e-mail program, complete with widgets similar to the HD2 WinMo (and a few even better looking choices as well), the HTC calendar, sms/mms, and the beloved animated clock/weather widget which I had waited so long to get on my old Touch Pro 2 when 6.5 came out.
So in a nutshell, if you love your HD2 but want to go full Android, then the only REAL current choice is the EVO, period

Pass on the the Vibrant if you can wait. The screen on it is fantastic looking but the device is a toy. If you feel the need to go to Android there is always something better about to come out and the Vibrant will not long be seen as such an impressive device once the novelty of the over-saturated screen wears off.

dinanS52 said:
So anyways, I bought my HD2 a month ago when T-Mobile had the free smart phone promotion. I had been torn over this and the MyTouch Slide for a number of reasons (native Android being the primary plus for the Slide), but in the end I chose the HD2 because of the superior hardware and oh so sexy form factor.
Flash forward a month, and T-Mobile now offers a solid top-tier android phone (Vibrant) and XDA has made some serious leaps and bounds in terms of Android on the HD2. I just loaded DarkStone's sense on my HD2 last night and I am simply amazed.
My dilemma is this: While Froyo on the HD2 is pretty stable at this point, there are still a number of bugs that need to be addressed (3G capability, wifi sharing, battery life, 20 second screen freezes, USB transfer, etc). Darkstone's software on the HD2 has given me a taste of the power of Android, however its still a ways off from being a polished product. While I like the concept, I just can't get over the fact that I have to use a beta product as a daily use device.
I could sell my HD2 for around $400 (most likely $350ish), and get the Vibrant new from T-mobile for $500. The Vibrant isn't nearly as solid, refined, or stylish as the HD2 (in fact, it feels cheap and flimsy), but it is NATIVE android and is getting rave reviews. However the future of the Android on the HD2 looks bright, even though it is some time away...
What would you guys do? Should I eat the $150 and get the Vibrant? Or should I man up and keep the HD2 lab rat?
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Stick with the real deal HD2

pinhead said:
Pass on the the Vibrant if you can wait. The screen on it is fantastic looking but the device is a toy. If you feel the need to go to Android there is always something better about to come out and the Vibrant will not long be seen as such an impressive device once the novelty of the over-saturated screen wears off.
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The G2 is looking pretty rad...
http://g2.t-mobile.com/?WT.ac=0937HOM04

[Q] If you had to trade your HD2 tomorrow... Which new device would you choose?

Morning all!
Hypothetical question time.
We're more than used to getting a slice from all worlds with our lovely HD2s, but what if we had to give them up tomorrow?
Now that we've had a taste of almost every new-age system out there, which new device would you choose?
Would you go for for example - the decicated Android cousin of the HD2, the Desire HD? Or has WP7 tickled your fancy to the extent that you'd consider a HD7?
Money's not an object!
For me - it'd be the Desire Z (aka HTC Vision)
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After watching Android develop over the last 6 months I can definitely say it's the OS for me. The openness, the ability to customise, the constant development and the stability does it all for me! I'd not touch WM6.5 again, though doing so on a new device would be difficult anyway! WP7 is nice, respect to MS for what they're doing and all, I don't think its for me.
As an everyday device I think the 'Z' has it all. I'd take it over the Desire, Desire HD, Evo, X10 and similar stuff. Boots within a second or two from nothing, no lag/slowdowns and I'm a sucker for a QWERTY keyboard, or at least having the option to use one! The screen's big enough for touch typing and everything else and despite the keyboard adding an extra layer, the Z feels just right when being held. Feels more ergonomic than the HD2, IMO.
Downside is going to a 800mhz processor from the HD2's 1ghz... I guess I should test non-transcoded XviD's on the Z and see how it handles them.
So that's my choice - what would be yours?

i think your choice is inferior device, since it has slower processor and not much better but smaller lcd screen
models with mechanical parts should be avoided ( i had many sliders before and many problems too)
you should always keep hd2 even if you get new phone
i bought iphone4 , better screen including superior multitouch performance, more memory, really wide selectoin of apps ( in my opinion superior to every other option including android) , phone looks really good, it has nice battery performance.

pdukanac said:
i think your choice is inferior device, since it has slower processor and not much better but smaller lcd screen
models with mechanical parts should be avoided ( i had many sliders before and many problems too)
you should always keep hd2 even if you get new phone
i bought iphone4 , better screen including superior multitouch performance, more memory, really wide selectoin of apps ( in my opinion superior to every other option including android) , phone looks really good, it has nice battery performance.
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The G2's processor eats the HD2's processor for breakfast and then it can take a dump, a ****, and an enema and still come back and own the HD2's ass.
I say this because I've tested the G2 for about two weeks but in the end, I came back to the HD2 because I couldn't stand the heft. I only used the keyboard three times in that period. Maybe keyboards are simply just not for me. (G2 is still a bloody good phone though, and the construction is superb. The hinge issue was literally blown out of the water with a 100 kiloton nuke).
The G2 also has an SLCD screen which is seriously much better than an HD2. Put up the same picture on the screen and you'll see what I mean.
You say the G2 is an inferior device, with one of the reasons being a smaller LCD screen. Why the hell did you choose the iPhone 4 again? Was it for the 4.7 inch screen?
How is 576mb of ram on the HD2 less than the 512mb of ram on the iPhone4? Is your quantity of 1mb of ram on the iPhone somehow worth more than 1mb of ram on the HD2? Did you sprinkle some apple sauce on it or something here?
Please, if you're going to gloat about your iPhone 4, get your facts straight first.

HD2 is a very nice phone though. The screen size and the slimness is just perfect so a new phone at the moment wouldn't be needed unless I break it o.0

There's nothing on the market at the moment which I would choose in reference to the HD2 - it's just TDB!

If I have the choice it would be Moto Atrix.
I love the ability to transform Atrix to a netbook via a simple dock, and essentially taking all my files/work with me no matter where I go.
I wish HD2 supported video out then I don't need to have laptops anymore. The only downside for any phone is the screen size, but Moto Atrix has given a practical solution to that.
But trade HD2 for anything on the current market? No.

My old HD2 had to go to the service center due to digitizer problem, so... I bought another HD2 to have a "spare" one. It is a magic phone, with all the possibilities.
Indeed it has some hardware problems and bad battery life, but there is no better choice now.

I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
To me, there isn't any device, released, with so much of a big improvement over our HD2's, hardware wise. Our HD2's can still keep up with the rest of the pack in my opinion.
If say, some of the upcoming phones were to be released, I'd get a Samsung Infuse.

HD2 is still the best hardware today, and next half year

If I had a choice?
I'd replace it for a newer HD2.

Personaly: another HD2!

Possibly a HTC Inspire HD. My girlfriend has one, it's not as pretty as the HD2 but it's a nice little phone - how does it match up to the HD2 in terms of hardware?
I love the HD2 and all but Windows Mobile 6.5 just isn't right and android can be a little hit and miss at times (but still better than WinMo) .
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I wouldn't want to trade my HD2 for anything... I like both WP7 and Android, and really would have a hard time choosing between the 2.... but if I HAD to choose another phone right now, I would probably go for android and get the Dell Streak or Desire HD. I love the big screen and look of the streak, but I think the DHD has a little better hardware and more ram. Luckily we are not forced to get a new phone... if I broke my HD2 today, I would get a new HD2... that will be my answer until the next generation of dual-core phones are released. Even then, it will be hard to go to a phone with only 1 OS now that I've been spoiled by the HD2.

There isn't a phone that appels to me in the market at the moment, so I'm sticking with the HD2. My phone next needs to have a dual core processor with decent power/battery usage ratio, a SAMOLED screen that is bigger than 4", Android 2.3 and atleast a gig of RAM. Right now I'm waiting for the Galaxy S2, but I probably won't jump ship 'till the reviews are in.
Right now tho, HD2 rockin' Gingerbread is the perfect phone for me. I've tested the iPhone 4 and a Galaxy S but neither of them really cut it. Even though the latest iPhone is a really nice device, iOS is just too constrained and the Galaxy S is a bit too flimsy.
EDIT: Actually, my perfect phone right now would be a HD2 with a Android ROM with a couple more months of development behind it.

Without a doubt the Htc Pyramid. That phone is going to be bad ass. Not too far away either.

I presently have a Touch HD, an HD2, an HD7, a Desire, a Desire Z (G2), a Desire HD, an Omnia 7, a Galaxy S I9000, an iPhone 3GS and an iPhone 4. I have ordered a Nexus S and am going to get it within a few days. I have all these devices because I write on Android ROMs, hacks, mods, themes and apps for a living and need to test things out. Guess which one of these devices am I using as my primary 24/7 phone?
The HD2! And I don't even have any plans on switching to Nexus S when I get it.
Why? Because they just don't make devices like the HD2 anymore. While many of the above-listed phones might be more powerful and have marginally or even substantially better screen qualities or processing power, none of them is an HD2; none of them can dual-boot Android and Windows Phone 7, while coming originally with Windows Mobile 6.5 (which wasn't a bad OS at all in my opinion).
I wouldn't trade my HD2 for anything but an HD2.
EDIT: Regarding your choice of a Desire Z (G2), although it's your personal choice, I wouldn't recommend it. It looks awesome in pictures but when you hold it up against any of the above-mentioned phones, it starts to look like crap - the build quality really is THAT awful, and lets not even bring up the issues regarding gaining complete system access on it - first there's rooting, then the S-OFF and finally the ENGINEERING S-OFF, the last one having quite some risks associated with it even for power users! Would have been worth the trouble only if the build quality was even remotely close to that of the HD2 but since that isn't the case, it'd be the last phone I'd consider for my daily use device.

Unless someone can port WM6.5 onto a new equally as good or better handset, then it has to be another HD2.
Maybe one day Android will be as good, but probably not for a while

I have mine till October, then ill get a phone that gets released arround that date

xaccers said:
Unless someone can port WM6.5 onto a new equally as good or better handset, then it has to be another HD2.
Maybe one day Android will be as good, but probably not for a while
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I second that.

hmm i'd wait for hd3

Do I wave goodbye to my beloved HD2 and upgrade?

I'm not going to lie here, I love my HD2. I've had it for 2 years now, and it's running Android perfectly!
It's that upgrade bi-yearly time though and I'm wondering what newer phones will actually offer me?
NFC - Great, but not necessary
BT 3.0 - For what? I run A2DP in my car + voice perfectly with my HD2
Better display - Well maybe so...maybe so
Advantages of ICS - Well we all know that potentially it will be fully ported to the HD2
Processor - Well maybe snapdragon is single core, slow an outdated, but it still runs things fine for me. I can (as before have A2DP) music, GPS and calls all at the same time.
Seriously, what would a new phone really change for me? You don't have to say one way or the other, it would just be interesting to see some opinions
Cheers!

It'd bring the things you mentioned- faster processor, more RAM, better camera, Bluetooth 4.0, etc etc. There aren't any phones out that match the number of OS options the HD2 has though
Personally, I don't plan on upgrading until my HD2 gets unbearably laggy on AOSP Android, which hopefully won't be another year or so.

The HD2 was a spectacular hype at first, topping charts as the most popular (non-iPhone) smartphone. The large userbase it had that became frustrated with WP6.5 and as such, it got a lot of mod development going for it.
Now that I've had a taste of Android I'll want to use a phone that natively supports it, I'm just looking for the next powerhouse that'll last me another two years. I was looking at the HTC Vigor for its sleek design, large screen and amazing specs, only to find out that Verizon snagged it for themselves exclusively (damn you!).
If your HD2 still works perfectly, there isn't much of a reason to switch unless you can't decide to get a new phone with your plan in the forseeable future. My phone has had its bits of wear and tear, and I think it's now fatally damaged. I don't think many phones would last four years either.

I really see no reason to upgrade. I've been running Touch pro 2 till this summer lol.
The only thing of any worth to me is a higher dpi screen (and better colors) and bigger/longer lasting battery. One the former there's a bunch of phones to chose, but later not so much, and I already have 2 batteries + dock that can charge them.
Yeah, and I dream of a worthy successor to TP2, but those are just pipe dreams as most people think that typing on the screen is ZOMG11!!!1 teh best.
While at it, I miss the stylus, though I'd like an active one ala Wacom. I'd pay through the nose to have such a thing on a phone (and will soon pay through it for a win slate with capacitive+touch to replace my old tablet convertible).
Damn you Jobs for killing the mobile keyboard, stylus and now Flash (I is a Flash dev).
I did think about the pluses of running android native, but I see none. It'll still glitch and crash and/or be bootloader locked, so you could end up in the mercy of carrier/htc :|
Cameras on all phones are very meh, HTC even more so.
Hmm, though Sharp has some SWEET phones I'd switch to, but good luck finding them outside Japan.
Here you go, so you can drool a bit:
AQUOS PHONE 102SH
12MP CMOS camera with full HD video recording
4.5-inch naked-eye 3D LCD screen with 720×1280 resolution and 329dpi pixel density
TI OMAP4430 dual-core CPU (1GHz)
RAM: 1GB, ROM: 2.2GB
Android 2.3
waterproof body (IPX5/7, IP5X)
microSDHC card slot
infrared connection
digital TV tuner
W-CDMA, GSM
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Hi,
i am also thinking about buying a new device. If GPS had still the connection problems under android as some months ago, i would definitely do so but now, it istn that urgent (at least not at urgent as my change from orbit 2 to Leo ;P ).
I will certainly go for a new device, but i think not now. My reasons for new device:
Display (samsung Galaxy S2 and S1 showed me what is possible and how ugly hd2 screen is)
bigger ROM (Have EU Leo)
Compass support (i am using my phone outdoor, too and the compass didnt work correctly at any time for me)
More Speed
But i think ill wait till Q2/2012 or so when Galaxy S3 and HTC "forgotthename,thisphonewith12MPcameraandlowlightsupprtandquadcore" will be released...
But I am not sure, yet... =D
Greeting, cmoe

Don't jump man! It's not worth it. Think of what you'd be giving up...
Seriously though... I'm in the same position and have to admit to having had a bit of a look around to see what's available. I've also been looking at new phones... ;-)
Sure there are phones out there now with better hardware specs.:
- dual-core CPUs (there's even a quad-core phone rumoured for next year!)
- super amoled screens
- higher res. cameras and camcorders
- 'Beats Audio' from Dr. Dre (whatever that is...!)
But do we really need all that?
Will one of these new phones allow you to switch back and forth between Windows Mobile and Android (pretty much any 'flavour') when you feel like it?
Will one of these new phones allow you to try out the new Windows Phone 7.5 to see if Microsoft have finally got it right?
Will one of these new phones allow you to personalise and modify the look and feel of it to your heart's content? The new HTC Vigor (or 'Rezound' as Verizon are calling it) is apparently going to be difficult to get into!
Is there really anything 'wrong' with the phone you already have and obviously love?
I think when O2 comes-a-calling (if indeed they do), asking whether I would like to upgrade to a new phone, I will ask them how much they are offering for me to forego a new phone and renew on my old phone. I believe some operators are offering up to £150 in credits if you do this (probably not O2 though...). If they do, I'll take the money and keep my HD2. If not, I'll keep my HD2 and switch to another operator on a cheaper Sim-only deal.
There... That's my tuppence worth on the subject...

kosmarnik said:
I really see no reason to upgrade. I've been running Touch pro 2 till this summer lol.
The only thing of any worth to me is a higher dpi screen (and better colors) and bigger/longer lasting battery. One the former there's a bunch of phones to chose, but later not so much, and I already have 2 batteries + dock that can charge them.
Yeah, and I dream of a worthy successor to TP2, but those are just pipe dreams as most people think that typing on the screen is ZOMG11!!!1 teh best.
While at it, I miss the stylus, though I'd like an active one ala Wacom. I'd pay through the nose to have such a thing on a phone (and will soon pay through it for a win slate with capacitive+touch to replace my old tablet convertible).
Damn you Jobs for killing the mobile keyboard, stylus and now Flash (I is a Flash dev).
I did think about the pluses of running android native, but I see none. It'll still glitch and crash and/or be bootloader locked, so you could end up in the mercy of carrier/htc :|
Cameras on all phones are very meh, HTC even more so.
Hmm, though Sharp has some SWEET phones I'd switch to, but good luck finding them outside Japan.
Here you go, so you can drool a bit:
AQUOS PHONE 102SH
12MP CMOS camera with full HD video recording
4.5-inch naked-eye 3D LCD screen with 720×1280 resolution and 329dpi pixel density
TI OMAP4430 dual-core CPU (1GHz)
RAM: 1GB, ROM: 2.2GB
Android 2.3
waterproof body (IPX5/7, IP5X)
microSDHC card slot
infrared connection
digital TV tuner
W-CDMA, GSM
size: 128×65×9.7mm, weight: 135g
IEEE802.11b/g/n Wifi
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Oh my damn that is gorgeous!

Members upgrading from HD2, kindly share ur views...

Still using my HD2 and extremely confused between getting the Note and the
Nexus. I think of siding with one and then in a few hours I invariably end up siding with the other.
I had upgraded to the two best phone that had been out since the HD2, namely the GS2 and the Sensation, but ended up selling both and came back to the HD2. The sensation just gobbled up my battery and the display felt inferior to that of the HD2. The GS2 had severe blue tint on the two devices I purchased, and after using the HD2 it just felt cheap to hold and never gave the feel of premium quality.
The itch for a new phone has started again and I am more inclined towards getting the Note at this moment and would love to know the views and reviews from members specifically upgrading from the HD2. Stuff like:
How did you come to the decision?
How easy/hard has the transition been?
How does the build quality feel?
Do you still miss and feel like going back to your HD2?
This and other stuff you want to share about your experience with life after moving on the Note and as much direct comparison as possible with respect to the way it has changed/improvised the way you do the same stuff..
Looking forward to hearing a lot of great stories

I'd never go back to my HD 2 cuz USB port I'd broken. But I don't regret purchasing the Note.If my HD 2 wasn't broken (charging battery only in extern charger is really annoying) it would have been a harder choice and I probably would wait for Asus padfone.
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viper_79 said:
Still using my HD2 and extremely confused between getting the Note and the Nexus. I think of siding with one and then in a few hours I invariably end up siding with the other.
I had upgraded to the two best phone that had been out since the HD2, namely the GS2 and the Sensation, but ended up selling both and came back to the HD2. The sensation just gobbled up my battery and the display felt inferior to that of the HD2. The GS2 had severe blue tint on the two devices I purchased, and after using the HD2 it just felt cheap to hold and never gave the feel of premium quality.
The itch for a new phone has started again and I am more inclined towards getting the Note at this moment and would love to know the views and reviews from members specifically upgrading from the HD2. Stuff like:
How did you come to the decision?
How easy/hard has the transition been?
How does the build quality feel?
Do you still miss and feel like going back to your HD2?
This and other stuff you want to share about your experience with life after moving on the Note and as much direct comparison as possible with respect to the way it has changed/improvised the way you do the same stuff..
Looking forward to hearing a lot of great stories
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Hi and thanks for the great thread.
I love my HD2 and reckon it is a design classic, rugged and stylish.
It is the best of the top 4 devices I have owned, along with the XDAII, O2 Atom, & Touch HD.
I usually upgrade once a year but I couldn't see anything I liked in the last 2 years. I was wary of Android, being a HTC/Winmo user. But Winmo 7 looked ****house so I held off for 2 years. Lately I had the desire to get a more modern device. A friend showed me his GSII. I was impressed by the performance but not by the build quality. On reflection I think it's build is pretty good, thin and sleek. Touch Wiz didn't grab me. In August I read about CyanogenMod and found a really good Android rom for the Hd2 called Typhoon CyanogenMod 7. I tried it and loved it. It turned me on to Android. I was surfing the net in September looking at the GSII and HTC Sensation XL and saw the buz about the Note. I almost bough the XL but the higher cpu and ram specs, bigger screen, and above all, the stylus/spen grabbed my interest and I preordered the Note straight away.
The HD2 was great, but the Note is better in many ways. The build quality is understated but functional. It doesn't feel as rugged or stylish as the HD2. But it's function is better. It is a bit thinner than the HD2. The plastic back works quite well and it allows the device to be thinner.
I like the bigger sceen of the Note, the stylus, the Android OS and it's integration with google calendar and contacts. I use Launcher Pro which is cleaner in looks that TouchWiz, but doesn't run as smooth.
Can't go back to the HD2. The Note is 3 times faster, 1" bigger screen, has a stylus and a more modern OS.
Maybe you should hold out for a Nexus or the quad 4 SGIII next year.

viper_79 said:
Still using my HD2 and extremely confused between getting the Note and the
Nexus. I think of siding with one and then in a few hours I invariably end up siding with the other.
I had upgraded to the two best phone that had been out since the HD2, namely the GS2 and the Sensation, but ended up selling both and came back to the HD2. The sensation just gobbled up my battery and the display felt inferior to that of the HD2. The GS2 had severe blue tint on the two devices I purchased, and after using the HD2 it just felt cheap to hold and never gave the feel of premium quality.
The itch for a new phone has started again and I am more inclined towards getting the Note at this moment and would love to know the views and reviews from members specifically upgrading from the HD2. Stuff like:
How did you come to the decision?
How easy/hard has the transition been?
How does the build quality feel?
Do you still miss and feel like going back to your HD2?
This and other stuff you want to share about your experience with life after moving on the Note and as much direct comparison as possible with respect to the way it has changed/improvised the way you do the same stuff..
Looking forward to hearing a lot of great stories
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My story is very similar to yours. Since 2003 I had been a die hard WM fan and the HD2 still represents one of the greatest devices ever released for its build quality, power, asthetics and flexibility especially where customising and custom roms from multiple platforms is concerned. Although I am from the UK, I was living in the US when the HD2 came out (I worked for T-Mobile) and even the Android handsets that were released afterward could not sway me. Even WP7 left me feeling cold.
After coming home to the UK, I first got the Sensation when it was released. It was either that or the GS2. After a few months and despite the build quility I was less than impressed. Don't get me wrong, its a good phone, its just not a great phone. The I got the GS2 and that I think is far better. Smoother, faster and a much better screen. Not long after I heard of the Note and when I learned it would have a stylus I knew I had to have it. Up till the HD2 every device I had ever owned had a stylus.
I have had the Note since the 4th of November. No regrets. Its doesnt feel as big as some make out. The screen is amazing. Its fast. Great battery. Super fast GPS and the S-Pen apps work very well and it is everything a stylus should be and more. Sure the build quality isnt on par with say Nokia or HTC but you know what, I dont care. Its a minor niggle. I had more regrets getting the the Sensation free on contract than I did spending £600 on the Note. I still miss the HD2 but only because it was my most versitile phone. I have now given that to a friend to use so I know its being used well.
Hope that helps

Just switched from HD2 (Artemis ROM) to the Note. I bought an Archos 101 tablet a few months ago and started dual booting the HD2 into Android as it was the only way I could tether the tablet. I was reluctant to give up on WM6.5 as I liked it but I found so many aviation apps for Android which simply weren't available for Windows phones. My main use for my phone is browsing and the note is simply amazing! This is the first phone which allows me to see everything on a website without zooming so I don't really need the tablet anymore. I have a friend who is an Apple fan and he likes his iPad 2 so much that he's sold his iPhone and just has a simple flip phone and his iPad. I have gone the other way and will ditch my tablet. The Note slips into my shirt pocket easily and does not feel that big but the HD2 now seems tiny. I love my new Note and it hasn't frozen or crashed once, unlike the HD.

I bought the HD2 the day it came out. It was precisely the phone I had wanted for years, but nobody could ever seem to get right. Even with all it's software glitches, the ability to customize WM was one of the most fun and interesting things I've ever had the pleasure to delight in with any form of technology. Once android was in the mix, it was pure magic.
Even if my digitizer hadn't broken on my HD2, I would have still bought the SGN the day it became available. Much like my vision of the HD2 coming to light, once I had the HD2 I knew i needed a bigger phone, so as to eliminate any need for a tablet. I'm 6'4" and have pretty big hands; the HD2 was but a child's toy in them. the note looks and fits me the way the iphone fits normal sized people. Additionally i used to carry my kindle around in my back pocket, not i can leave that at home.
This for me was a no brainer. The HD2 was the first, and in many ways will always be the best. It's an under the radar powerhouse of a phone, which most people never even heard of. The Note by comparison, is like the space shuttle as compared to the HD2 being a 747. It's bigger, faster, and just more impressive overall.
My lone wish is the ability to dual boot WP7. I'd barely use it as I had the same setup on my hd2 but while not as deep with features and customability as Android, WP7 is a very nice OS, and it wouldn't take much to make it world's better than Android. It's quite beautiful and elegant already, and I very much appreciate the minimalist approach, as an homage of sorts to WinMo.
Caveat emptor: this is a big ass phone and while it fits me perfectly, i can totally see how it might feel slightly too large for the general population. Oddly enough I can see girls gravitating to it more than men since it can easily fit in a purse. Considering most people use headsets anyway, the need to put this thing to ones head isn't really there although again for me, it is a perfect fit.
Jason

Thank you so much for starting this brilliant thread.
I am facing the same dilemma. After 2 years of HD2, it has been a real pleasure, and even now I dont really put my finger down on why I want to upgrade. But there is this itch to get a new phone.
Basically Im stuck between the RAZR Droid and the Note. I like the Note better, but the RAZR is so bloody cool. Plus, I donno if the Note will be uncomfortable (Im 6'2" with big hands, but still Im donno if it will look awkward during a call).
Help will really be appreciated.

Another member in the same dilemma. Keep HD2 (Americandroid nand) and buy the tab 7.7, give sis HD2 and buy Gnote, or wait for Asus padfone... Don't know how practical is it to carry a phone and a tablet around though... but not sure if the note will be able to display PDFs without panning at all and how much better the overall browsing experience would be tab 7.7 vs gnote. Is it worth carrying a phone and a tablet around for it?
I'm still happy with my HD2 and don't have much incentive to upgrade unless it will give me the kind of experience upgrading from wm6.5 to android. The browsing in wm6.5 was just horrible. Pics not loading etc etc

I have just ordered the Note after using the HD2 as my main phone with Android for 2 years (loved it!).
Can any of the ex-HD2 owners comment on how the Note compares sound quality wise listening to music via headphones?
I read some worrying comments on sound quality and would be interested how people feel it compares to the HD2.

as my hd2 is broken i will buy a note too. but if you ask me if hd2 wasnt broken i will wait for companies to fill market with big screen phones and pick one from them.

For me, it was a no-brainer.
My HD2 was great, but my new Note is way better. I'm not so sure I will be able to look at any other device after seeing the SGN's gorgeous screen.
For me, SGN is the new HD2 of sorts - niche device, underrated, unknown and very powerful, designed specifically for those people who love this kinds of stuff. Most people would rather buy an iPhone or some regular-sized Droid, than the gargantuan behemoth that is the Note.
One thing though - HD2 felt... more robust, I guess. This one feels light and slick, but I'm a little afraid of breaking it.
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rupple said:
I have just ordered the Note after using the HD2 as my main phone with Android for 2 years (loved it!).
Can any of the ex-HD2 owners comment on how the Note compares sound quality wise listening to music via headphones?
I read some worrying comments on sound quality and would be interested how people feel it compares to the HD2.
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Ok, I am going to answer my own question, as I now have the Note. I have done A/B testing with two headphones: a mi-range Sony MDR-EX300 and a high-end Shure SE530 (both IEM). Test done using Power Amp with no EQ.
Basically the sound quality of the Note is worse than that of the HD2:
- less refined stereo separation
- lower dynamics
- sound stage is more compressed
+ the Note does have a very clean signal (HD2 too)
Whereas on the HD2 the SE530 brings out better details of the sound, the Note is simply a no-go for that high-end IEM. On the mid range Sony MDR-EX300 it is usable although I would have wished for better overall SQ.

My full review in video form!!
This is a video review i did of the note. It covers everything you need to know http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JyfrD4VrHY cheers!

To be honest am so in love with pens phones...it started with htc universal and then nokie 5800...aftr that i bought the hd2 the 1st day it was available in uk...no regrets on that phone...was the fastest phone and a best for a long time with no compitator other then desire hd.....but to he honest its been 2 years now...we hav to move on for newer technology better and faster one...nothing caught my eyes other then the notes..am a fan of huge phones and the stylus pen woow...i find it like hd2 but a 2011 version...enhanced faster bigger (twss)...anyway if u r asking wht am using the pen for....am now going to lectures without anypapers nor abag....i write every lecture in s.memo....and even recording the voice of the lecturer while writing in s.memo...in the end i like this phone....its the best for now

ProzzaK said:
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How much did DUNHILL pay you sir?

It really is like when i got my HD2. A totally new experience. I love it. I've already started using it where i used to use my ipad. Probably my best device since my HD2.
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Beautiful thread. I got the HD2 and a Galaxy Tab 8.9. The tab is perfect for media consumption especially for reading magazines books watching videos etc. But unfortunately i cant always have the tab on me. LEO is still very good as a phone as well as for things like perusing posts in the social networks. But after more than 2 years i think its time the decorated general went into semi retirement.
I wont ever sell my hd2 as it will still remain my test unit. I am testing ice cream witj it as we speak and running Mango too. But the note will take its place as daily driver while the tab serves its duty for serious reading.
So in short for me i will not be replacing my hd2 but basically the 2 (or should i say the three to include the tab) shall live side by side in glorious harmony.....
Oh in case anyone is wondering I got a man bag (murse?) for carrying my stuff sround

@PlayStation
Would love to see a photo of your man bag.
I'm intrigued and interested
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my969 said:
@PlayStation
Would love to see a photo of your man bag.
I'm intrigued and interested
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Sure will take a photo or 2 and upload....

Icon and general text size compared to HD2
Good day,
I am an HD2\WM 6.5.3 user with poor vision, hence my interest in the Galaxy Note.
1) Can someone tell me if the icons and the icon text is smaller or larger on the GNote?
2) Same question when browsing the internet and reading mail BEFORE zooming in?
I often have to squint or occasionally use a monocle to view some of the program screens on my HD2 and am hoping that the increased DPI of the GNote is not going to make things smaller over all, despite the larger screen size.
Clearly I am hoping for all things to appear larger!
3) And a little off topic but one of the best things I liked about the HD2\Opera 9.7 browser was auto text wrap\reflow when one does a pinch to zoom. HTC seems to include this functionality in their Sense UI on Android as they did with WM and I do not think the built in browser on the GNote does this???
I tried Dolphin HD on an Andorid SD build on my HD2 but I could not get auto text wrap to work at all, let alone like it does with WM\HTC\Opera.
I would greatly appreciate any\all details and insights anyone can provide before I drop my cash on what I hope to be the answer to my needs.
Thanks in advance, you lucky people.

Should I get the SGS2 or the HTC One S?

I have a chance to grab any of these phones for $99 on a $20 plan.
The HTC One S has a dual core snapdragon S4 processor running at 1.5ghz and I am a fan of HTC.
But its near impossible to find this phone at any retailer
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if your a fan of htc, go for it.
One S is still fairly newer so expect more updates than the GS2
GS2 has an micro SD card slot ( One S doesn't so limited internal memory for One S )
Both phones are good, go for what feels best for you.

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HTC one S is what you will get.
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Thanks for the reply and for the reminder about no sdcard! Does anyone know which display is better?
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MrToastedAndroid said:
Thanks for the reply and for the reminder about no sdcard! Does anyone know which display is better?
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one s shuld have a better display and resoloution.. But s2's super amoled plus screen is not bad either

As a previous owner of 3 HTC smartphones (2 of them flagships), and a current owner of an S2, I'd advise you to stay away from them and go for the S2. HTCs are plagued with issues, both hardware and software. Also, expandable storage is a bonus and the option to add a bigger battery to the S2 is great. The only advantage of the One S is the higher resolution of the screen but don't be fooled, the One S had an amoled screen with a pen-tile matrix while the S2 has a full RGB matrix. Even though on paper the HTC's resolution is better, there is not a dramatic difference in real life.

Get one s instead
Feels better in hand, not so slippy thought as s2.
Touchwiz is deadly boring thing when compared to sense 4.
Even on ics 4.0.4 one s feels little more fluid in graphics and more responsive than s2 on leaked official jellybean.
Have not tried one s running custom roms like cm10, but s2 gives me little dissapointment on custom rooms, most of them are broken due lack of full hardware acc/ project butter support.
Hovewer if you need micro sd support, extended replaceable battery, standart slot for sim cards, S2 may be good choice over one s too
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The S4 1,5 Ghz Krait processor in One S is paired in performance with SIII's quad, being net supperior to SII (see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C661Tdorbl0 )
One S S4 has already received JB update with Sense 4+, SII still waiting.
BUT,
SII has a better screen (IMHO), has removable battery cover and a card slot of max 32 Gb. This means that you can buy a second battery for extra "stamina", or replace it if the original one gives signs of old age (prolonging the life of an S2) and extand the memory to a total of 12 GB (internal usable) + 32 GB = 44 GB :good:. Last, but not least, SII has an overall better community support as well as other small things such as accessories (you'll always easily find accessories for S2 with much more alternatives...hands-free, cases, bumpers, screen protectors, battery covers, batteries, etc).
To sum up:
If you upgrade your phone for a long period (one year or so) I would recomand SII. If you plan to change the phone in the next months, than you can go with HTC.
This is my opinion, take it as it is.

I have SGS2 and my gf HTC one S and I like both phones a lot but htc is way smoother
So if price is the same htc all the way

AW: Should I get the SGS2 or the HTC One S?
I would not get the One S, like all HTC phones there are many manufacturing errors, my Desire HD died after 6 months of usage, also HTC Support is ****, my battery Cover broke after a week and they promised me to send a new one, but it never arived.
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Okay, let me brush you through the disadvantages or limitations of the S2:
- Regardless of the ROM you use, there will always be some lag when you open the contacts app for the first time (or whenever it gets killed)
- There is a delay of 1 second when you wake the device from standby.
- Certain people (like me), have issues with screen quality (black crush, bad color temperature, yellow tint, greenish greys, linen looking texture on grey backgrounds at low brightness).
-The S2's screen is 32bit, but Android doesn't use that color depth... So you will see color banding on almost every gradient background. (if you don't know what color banding is, you should google it...) I think the Mali 400 GPU also has something to do with this. Somebody correct me on this one.
- The S2 uses a Yamaha audio chip.This is a downgrade from its predecessor's Wolfson audio chip. The Yamaha chip is outright horrid. Forget about punchy bass and that wow factor. If you enable bass boost or make any EQ modification which increases bass, you will hear horrible distortion and speaker clipping. But loudspeaker performance is great.
- The camera modules (only rear camera) on certain S2's (like mine) are defective. There is stuttering while recording videos which have dark/light lighting (extremes).
Also, there is a pink spot in the center of all photos which are having grey or white colors. (This particular issue is faced by each and every S2 regardless of the camera module, if people deny it... they just aren't as observant.
- The battery life of the S2 is mediocre (not for me). Users complain that the S2 doesn't last them even 24 hours. (I'm in a different boat for this one)
Although the battery drains super fast while gaming or leaving the display on auto brightness.
However, you can always get a larger capacity battery which will make your S2 thicker. And uglier. And heavier. OK you got it.
- You will not receive updates on time, but you'll at least get updates. Due to the pending lawsuit with Apple, Samsung is silently disabling/changing certain features. (I shall not talk about these here, as its a vast and debatable topic)
Some of these issues that I have mentioned here can be fixed or camouflaged by either getting a replacement S2 or by rooting and flashing custom mods or ROMs.
Bottom line: There are several advantages of the S2 which the other users will tell you about, but I feel that the S2 shouldn't be on your list. Either get the One S or get something even better that has no or lesser issues and will last for a while.
Cheers.
EDIT:- I forgot to tell you about these issues:
- eMMc brick-bug issue, which means that if you root and use clockworkmod recovery to wipe the device, it will never wake up again. (i haven't had this issue)
- The screen burn-in issue which is there on all AMOLED phones.
- There is no notification LED.
- There is a delay when you press the home button. (can be fixed)
That's all.
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Also the S2 has got a replaceable battery.

Odp: Should I get the SGS2 or the HTC One S?
Sgs 2 on JB leak can use 64gb sdxc cards

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Sgs 2 on JB leak can use 64gb sdxc cards
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Higher resolution, beautiful industrial design, faster processor (significantly so) and most importantly Samsung have nothing to do with it. Why would you even consider the SII over the One S?
Ive since moved from the SII to greener pastures but owning the SII was one of the most frustrating expereicnes ive had with any item of technology (bar its predecessor, the Wave) in recent years .

Did not expect this many replies. The community that supports this phone is amazing. So a lot of posts tell me S2 is the way to go.
I really don't need a massive amount of storage (all my Top Gear episodes and Pimp my Ride series are on my 320GB PS3 Slim) but the pain of downloading a show, say a formula 1 race onto a computer then transferring the huge file on the One S is tedious then if you download the formula 1 race directly onto the sdcard then play it off the phone.
Screen size is not an issue, the pentile matrix on the One S doesn't really matter to me because I'm writing this on a device that has a VGA resolution. Higher density also is not a big deal, and since the screen is basically the same-even in size, it doesn't matter.
I do listen to music and I can tell that beats audio is a huge waste of money, and it's showing up everywhere, from laptops to a 2013 Chrysler 300C! I don't know what HTC was smoking when they decided to dump money into things that don't make any difference. I never knew about the audio chip set. I always thought that it was part of the motherboard! Shows how little I know about these things.
Camera is not an issue since I am no means a photographer and have no interest of that subject. I don't mind the SGS2's pink camera syndrome. Also, I did read in a review of the HTC One S that the display was better calibrated than the normal SAMOLED display.
I do miss the notification LED from my beloved BlackBerry 8520 and the HTC Wildfire S. It is not nesscary because the two capacitive buttons cam light up when I get a notification using root access and an app from the play store. And the notification LED on the HTC One S is barely noticeable.
So far with HTC I had no quality control issues, my sister who now has the wildfire s is careless to say the least and drops it everywhere. But it still works fine! I always get cases for everything, and I don't make any device of mine to fall 5 stories and expect it to work.
I want stock 4.0 and up look. I don't like manufacturer overlays like Sense or Touchwiz. So people tell me to root and recovery and cyanogenmod. But as with any device, all cyanogenmod ROMS have issues. I am not familiar with the issues on cm10 for this device, but development for cm10.1 for the htc one s has no working Camera whatsoever.
I do not want to upgrade again for around 2-3 years so as someone said, the SGS2 has more development than the One S but as long as there is cyanogenmod or paranoid android I will be happy. The one s seems future proof since HTC didn't release any info of its next flagship phones but you never know.
Again, thank all the posters for the advice on what to get.
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I also forgot I am in no means Bear Grylls meang someone who takes their phone with them for a 2 month trip climbing Mount Everest and expects their phone to last for the trip (exaggeration lol )
I do not need a replaceable battery, however having that feature is nice. I remember the LG Rumour2 and LG Xenon had the same battery and I always swapped them out when I needed more juice. Funny story: back in the day I was moving and didn't have access to power for the most part, so I used the car battery to charge but I had to keep the engine running so the battery doesn't die and the alternator does all the work. Leaving the engine idiling made it overheat since the car was pretty old (1990 Honda accord) and we had to wait at our old house until the engine cooled with the last bits from the old house. Sitting down for 2 hours is not fun. So after that I always try to charge my battery on all my devices so I don't need to worry.

I am a previous owner of HTC Sensation XE, had to give it up, my s2's screen has tint but service guys won't replace it, Sensation had same screen and I'd prefer that over S2's, rest, S2 has lots of issues, that guy mentioned Em in detail ^^
One S is the way to go.
Edit: One S will have less buggy CM Roms and Sense isn't that bad
Edit 2: Just checked One S forum, Go for S2 if you want stock Android , I'm leaving it soon though.
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I think a good device for your would be the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. Right now, you can get one for relatively cheap, from 200-260 the device is a steal. You won't be needing to worry about it becoming obsolete for another 2 years, as it is still supported by Google and has a huge developer base community. And the best thing is...... AOSP ROMS will always be bug free and stable, due to sources from Google. It comes with 16 GB of storage like the One S, but has a replaceable battery. Did I also forget to mention that the Nexus has an HD screen? I understand that it to is AMOLED, but it doesn't seem to have as many issues as the Galaxy S2. I used to have a G- Nexus, but sold it due to a display issue. Don't get me wrong, I bought the device second hand, so don't think that all Nexus phones have issues. In my short time with the Nexus, it beats the S2 or performs equally in general use, to gaming, to browsing due to properly implemented Project Butter. If I hadn't got my S2 for 150 brand new, I would have bought another Nexus. Hope this helps!

I don't like the Galaxy Nexus because I'm outside for long periods of time on weekdays and my friend complained about the screen being too dark in sunlight. The One s and galaxy s2 screen is brighter.
Also, I cannot get that phone for $99 on a $20 plan.
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