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Hey guys,
I'm not that pretty sure anymore about the phone.
My main PRO is the big screen and Android.
The main CON is: Samsung...
My friends, who already owned a Samsung warned me.
One of them said:"I'll give you 3 month till you send it back, because it's not working anymore."
The missing camera LED, notification LED and the update policy of Samsung are reinforcing my concerns.
I'm currently not sure about buying one, so could you give me your reasons for choosing the Galaxy S over a HTC Desire/Legend or an iPhone?
iPhone - don't like the platform and Apple condescending BS.
Desire - have one currently, excellent phone, reasoning for trying the Galaxy S - better graphics prowess (I like gaming), TV Out & DLNA, more storage space for app installation, WiFi tether, DivX, the screen - both better display characteristics and multitouch, better audio SQ.
EDIT: Oh, and the Desire's bluetooth implementation is anoying with peripherals like keyboards/controllers/heart rate monitors.
You dont need to go for htc or apple. There's the new motorola coming out that also has Arm cpu
http://www.slashgear.com/motorola-xt720-hands-on-video-0788530/
I'm loving the cam on it.. and build quality.. but not super amoled but apparently they have great screens (motorola droids)
i still want the galaxy but build quality is worrying..
edit: just doesn't make sense why accessing the app drawer on the motorola is so sluggish lol... seriously it's just icons... I'm pretty sure it's Android's fault not the phone.
edit 2: btw you just worried me as well Knobibrot LOL with your story. though I've heard many but now I'm really thinking about it since I'll be traveling for a long time, I need a lasting phone that does 720p. and Motorola seems like it has strong build quality and a great camera. And it's still Android so hmm..
edit 3: I don't care about watching movies, I don't watch movies on cell phones. LOL count me in Knobibrot, why should we buy it ? haha Galaxy is a great phone but I am not sure all because of build quality and how long it may last.. since already many errors are being reported..
edit 4: arg it doesn't have wireless n the motorola and it's not amoled.
Still have my doubts too and am questioning the logic behind leaving out all leds. It does appear to be a long running design choice with Samsung phones from what I've read.
I'm ditching my HD2 due to unreliability issues, so the Galaxy does seem a bit of a gamble when the Desire has so many great reviews. It's that damn screen on the G that keeps pulling me back tho!
this "samsung-bashing" is really getting boring...
its always the manufacturers fault if the user is too stupid, right ?
would you buy a car without ever testdriving it ? no you wouldn't even if the guy who wants to sell it to you says "its the greatest thing since sliced bread and it does 200 mph" !
but with phones it's seemingly totally different... the manufacturer tells you something and you do believe the **** out of it.. instead of just taking the goddamn device in your hand and use the features you need and check if it is ok for you.
yeah i know, its so much harder to get a phone into your hand than having a test-drive, right ?
oh, and when you save all your money for a phone its the best thing to confide in the manufacturers claims and blindly buy it without testing
either be a man and buy something without testing, because you have the money and don't care if its **** (its still YOUR DECISION to spend the money on something you never used before) or be "smart" and test the device, if the money does matter so much for you...
i owned the i8510 and the i8910 samsung devices and they were both top of the line... i got no complains
and here the reasons for buying the i9000:
big super amoled screen
best videoplayer on a device so far (mkv, avi/divx support out of the box)
720p @ 30 fps so far (not "up to 30 fps" like the iphone 4 )
android os
nice samsung customization with touchwiz
Simple answer from me.....
If I don't like, then by law under the Distance Selling Regulations I can send it back and obtain a full refund inc postage.
Well the whole reason with pre-ordering without testing for me is that manufacturers these days don't seem too good (or perhaps intentionally) at judging demand, so if I'm not getting one in the first batch then I could end up waiting months. But that's why I've been checking every review and user opinion, so at least I've got an idea.
just watch steven jobs tout his iphone ... don't you think he knows that the iphone is crap in some regards ? yet he sells it to "stupid" folks as best thing since sliced bread ... why would he tell you something he knows the iphone is bad in ? his job is to sell phones and not to tell the truth ... same is with the other manufacturers
even without testing every phone i did not have many complains .. some people really need a reality check if they blame the manufacturers for saying their product was great....
Simple answer from me.....
If I don't like, then by law under the Distance Selling Regulations I can send it back and obtain a full refund inc postage.
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Now, you see, in my coutry for example they respect this law only if the contents of the packege is intact.
Practice shows that sallers always say that the packege was unwrapped and the unit shows signs of usage and they decline taking it back. And that means weeks or even months of Consumer Advocate work or a lawsuit.
So your suggestion is out of question for me (and I think other unfortunates) and becasue of that I always wait and read a lot before I buy a thing that I can't test properly.
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Now, you see, in my coutry for example they respect this law only if the contents of the packege is intact.
Practice shows that sallers always say that the packege was unwrapped and the unit shows signs of usage and they decline taking it back. And that means weeks or even months of Consumer Advocate work or a lawsuit.
So your suggestion is out of question for me (and I think other unfortunates) and becasue of that I always wait and read a lot before I buy a thing that I can't test properly.
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Well my heart goes out to you in not having a government strong enough to enforce better consumer laws.
v1rtu4l said:
just watch steven jobs tout his iphone ... don't you think he knows that the iphone is crap in some regards ? yet he sells it to "stupid" folks as best thing since sliced bread ... why would he tell you something he knows the iphone is bad in ? his job is to sell phones and not to tell the truth ... same is with the other manufacturers
even without testing every phone i did not have many complains .. some people really need a reality check if they blame the manufacturers for saying their product was great....
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Like the bearded one, I shall be returning mine under UK distance selling regulations if I'm not entirely happy with it. But I am cautiously optimistic. Samsung is a big company with a lot of customers, it stands to reason they're gonna have some unhappy ones.
This phone is going to be such a big seller (over 1 million pre-orders in Europe), they will have to get it sorted if there are any little niggles, plus if they plan to be taken seriously on Android they do realize they need to change their support and policy towards upgrades. We've already seen them make a clear statement that 2.2 will be supported.
But my main reason for buying it, there's still nothing else out there that comes close in terms of overall capability.
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I've got nothing against Apple, but that did make me chuckle.
Knobibrot said:
I'm currently not sure about buying one, so could you give me your reasons for choosing the Galaxy S over a HTC Desire/Legend or an iPhone?
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The choice between iPhone and the GS is more a choice between android and iOS. I thought about buying the iphone, but then I realized I hated their push notification system (had a lot of bad experiences with it with my iTouch), the lack of widgets, the lousy multitasking (I use ebuddy a lot, and the multitasking implementation of the iphone only allows for push messages with IM's). The iPhone itself is a great device, technically, but the software just doesn't cut it for me.
The choice between the Desire and the GS is a bit more difficult. While the Desire is the nice looking, better built cheaper phone with the great Sense UI (although the touchwiz UI also has some nice things, like the app list and the ability to take screenshots), the Samsung is better in about every other aspect. For example:
-Better, bigger screen with better multi-touch (the Desire has trouble tracking as much as 2 fingers at the same time).
-Better processor AND better graphics processor.
-Better bluetooth and wifi and higher mobile upload speed (2mbps<5.76 mbps)
-Better media player and sound quality with support for Avi, FLAC, ...
-Extra memory, both ROM and general
I'm coming from a desire myself, because I really had trouble playing games on emulators with the bad multi-touch. The GPU also wasn't able to keep up in games like Asphalt.
With the GS already on amazon for 499 euros, I would definitly choose it over the desire, which is around 469 here in Belgium.
v1rtu4l said:
this "samsung-bashing" is really getting boring...
i owned the i8510 and the i8910 samsung devices and they were both top of the line... i got no complains
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I've only had one Samsung phone so far (i900 Omnia I) but in the 2 years that I owned it I never had a serious problem, even though I bought it 2nd hand on eBay. The only few times it crashed was when I installed a new app it didn't like.
The main reasons why I'm interested in this phone are the 4" Super AMOLED screen, 8GB/16GB on board storage plus SD card, 512mb RAM, 2GB ROM, 1GHz processor with 1500 mAh battery suggests good battery life (although reports so far are mixed), confirmed update to Froyo (as per gsmarena) and apparently good video player and sound quality. Also, I had good experiences with the camera of my Omnia so I'm hoping this bodes well for the Galaxy S camera (yes, I'm aware that it doesn't have a flash). I hated TouchWiz on the Omnia and would prefer plain vanilla Android on the GS, but GS TouchWiz looks much less invasive and more practical than Omnia TouchWiz so I think I can live with it.
I'm keeping an eye on the iPhone 4 as well, but I'm put off by the small screen (smaller than previous iPhones), no flash support for the browser (not so much for youtube but so many websites use it) and I'm a bit suspicious about Apple potentially hobbling Google sync functions. Also not looking forward to iAds.
Yeah, the performance of the phone and the screen are the things that are keeping me from waiting for another phone.
Hearing about bad build quality from those that tried it worries me.
But then again I come from an HTC Magic which has bad build quality but nothing happened to it in a year except dust under screen, but on Sammy that won't be a problem.
Reasons ?! i could write many reasons but this is all i have for now
1- Of course the Super Amoled Screen (best screen to date)
2- The screen is BIG!
3- The Hummingbird processor that means i wont have problems watching a movie on my phone and also it'll rock on game
4- Tv-out sulotions so you have:
a- Wired tv-out using S-video cable .
b- DLNA so you can stream your videos/images/music to your TV ,Media Player, PC , Laptop or PS3 wirelessly
5- Huge internal memory so you can throw anything you want in it .If it's not enough just throw in a 32 GB M-SD card
6- Codecs support so it's ready for your vids
These are the reasons i have for now that makes the galaxy s stands out between Desire , Legend and iPhone !
So if i made a comparison between each device the list will grately expand !
I hated TouchWiz on the Omnia and would prefer plain vanilla Android on the GS, but GS TouchWiz looks much less invasive and more practical than Omnia TouchWiz so I think I can live with it.
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I don't know the source any more, but I read somewhere that it's possible to deactivate TouchWiz and use the Vanilla Android instead.
I'll do a search on that!
Thanks for all these great comments.
And informations like the 1 million pre-orders in Europe and Cooki3s' review of the Desire really helps!
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I don't know the source any more, but I read somewhere that it's possible to deactivate TouchWiz and use the Vanilla Android instead.
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Yeah, I think I read that too somewhere. You can deactivate it on the Omnia, so that would make sense. But the GS version looks like I might actually find some of it practical to use, e.g. the Daily Briefing (provided Samsung modify it to allow custom news feeds), unlike the Omnia version which I didn't find very useful.
If the GS build quality is as good as other Samsung's I've had I would be happy. I've always found the build quality excellent, especially compared to SE and Nokia.
However, Samsung haven't been the fasted at updates, so the sooner they confirm Froyo the better.
After the launch of Samsung Galaxy S, hardly after 15 days we noticed rumors started from a russian sites that its predecessor is already in development with following specs:
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- OS: Google 3.0 Gingerbread
- 4.3-inch 2-Super AMOLED display with 1280x720 resolution
- 1080p Full HD video recording
- 2 GHz processor
- 32 GB of internal memory, a slot for MicroSD memory cards up to 32 GB
- 1 GB RAM, 4 GB ROM
- Battery: 2000 mAh
- 8-megapixel camera with autofocus and HD video recording
- 3.5 mm audio jack
- A-GPS, Accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity sensor, ambient light sensor
- Google Service (Android Market, Google Search, Google Maps, Gmail, Google Talk, YouTube)
some say that this phone will b available in 2011. other says this might hit the market on Christmas.
Guys. i want to know what do u think about it. is it true or fan gone crazy.
Looks like a real killer if we go by specifications alone. Looks extremely tempting to me. Not sure how real though.
and ive noticed most of rumors about samsung mobiles from russian sources turn out to be true. fingers crossed this time
fayeznoor said:
and ive noticed most of rumors about samsung mobiles from russian sources turn out to be true. fingers crossed this time
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I was going to bring up the Russian accuracy thing, they had an accurate Bada phone preview that included the Wave and the next announced devices.
I think this is ahead of their processor roadmap, and even so I still think whatever they use is likely to be designed and made in-house.
I think this is true or close to true, but part of that is definitely wishful thinking. If it's not completely true, it's probably close to right, and we will probably get an announcement around the holidays so they can get people to hold off on buying a new phone from a competitor. If this has a 2000 mAh battery I'd break my SGS contract to get one.
It's fake. 2Ghz ARM in a consumer device is a pipe dream right now.
Plus Samsung have invested heavily in ramping up production of the Galaxy S, they're not going to cripple sales just as they complete their roll-out.
I could see that happening in about a years time. Anyone could really guess those specs... I definitely wouldn't hold my breath for it though. Better to just get the GS now if you want a good phone.
Also I believe that 4.3 screen is too large for a phone, as it becomes almost unpocketable.
Read this:
http://briefmobile.com/samsung-i9200-galaxy-s2-is-probably-a-fake
it'll need to carry a pretty thick battery. or the battery life is pretty bad.
unless they miraculously came up with some better type of battery.
Definitely wouldn't come out for Christmas, it would canibalize i9000 sales. Just like TravUK said they'd probably work towards rolling out the i9000 to the max.
Regarding the battery, if they come up with new processor architecture or screen technology like some advanced super amoled, that could help a lot two
I would come right back to Android for a device like this or one like it made by HTC. Regardless, I have no doubt we are going to see much better devices from most of, if not all of the majors by Dec (or least full specs of soon to be released phones by Dec).
If you're stuck in a new 2 year right now and you can't or don't want to pay up to get out, you'll be feeling the burn in 4 months; such is the speed of phone tech these days.
I'll not be surprised if it's true.
In fact i was waiting for something like this to come out.
Unfortunately I needed a NEW phone NOW like yesterday, so from the crop of current available best phone was the SGS i9000, and that's what i purchased.
I'm quite sure if that 2Ghz phone makes it to the market next year, it'll cost over $1500+
That thing is essentially a PC inside a phone case.
4.3" screens are huge, most people will not like it in their pocket.
my old HTC Athena has a 5" screen and.... THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR REASON why i switched back to a slightly smaller screen like the one on the SGS i9000
anything larger than 4" is very uncomfortable in the front pocket of your jeans, or shirt as most of these phones now in days pack quite a bit of weight to it, although the SGS i9000 is OK, not too heavy.
in the past i choosed the HTC Athena for the 5" screen for movies and stuff, because i used to sit a lot in the Subway, and Buses, it was great, but it sucks when you want to go to say Theme park, and go on a roller coaster and stuff like that.
That's why i switched back to a smaller phone.
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After the launch of Samsung Galaxy S, hardly after 15 days we noticed rumors started from a russian sites that its predecessor is already in development with following specs:
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- OS: Google 3.0 Gingerbread
- 4.3-inch 2-Super AMOLED display with 1280x720 resolution
- 1080p Full HD video recording
- 2 GHz processor
- 32 GB of internal memory, a slot for MicroSD memory cards up to 32 GB
- 1 GB RAM, 4 GB ROM
- 8-megapixel camera with autofocus and HD video recording
- 3.5 mm audio jack
- A-GPS, Accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity sensor, ambient light sensor
- Google Service (Android Market, Google Search, Google Maps, Gmail, Google Talk, YouTube)
some say that this phone will b available in 2011. other says this might hit the market on Christmas.
Guys. i want to know what do u think about it. is it true or fan gone crazy.
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I'll probably sell the SGS i9000 and get that one when it comes out, if it's real, and when if it does actually hits the market
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4.3" screens are huge, most people will not like it in their pocket.
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That's just not true for everyone. My Evo and it's 4.3 screen to me is the perfect phone size aside from it being a bit too thick. Take a look at the SGS and how it, like the iPhone do not use a lot of the front space above and below the screen. Now take a look at other phones such as the Evo and how it has a screen that takes up more of the front space. Holding the Captivate in hand along side the Evo yesterday and the difference in size is very small and really comes down to the Evo being thicker than I'd like. I can place the Evo in my shirt pocket just as I do with the iPhone now.
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That's just not true for everyone. My Evo and it's 4.3 screen to me is the perfect phone size aside from it being a bit too thick.
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that's the problem most of the phones that has larger than 4" screens are too thick, and heavy, both usually due the battery, and other internal components that makes up for the lost space inside the phone.
one of the reason why i like the SGS i9000 so much is because of that, i found it surprising for a 4" phone to be this thin, got tired of carrying a thick 5" phone with me all the time
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that's the problem most of the phones that has larger than 4" screens are too thick, and heavy, both usually due the battery, and other internal components that makes up for the lost space inside the phone.
one of the reason why i like the SGS i9000 so much is because of that, i found it surprising for a 4" phone to be this thin, got tired of carrying a thick 5" phone with me all the time
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I'm guessing that you haven't picked up an Evo before? It was thick to me but most owners of it thought I was crazy for thinking its a little too thick. The Evo is thick because of the 4G radio and other components; NOT because of the screen size.
And come on now, a 5" phone like the one you had, or the new Dell are in a different class which doesn't include 4.3 inch devices like the Evo. Remember the size is measured from the bottom left corner to the top right corner of the screen. Seriously, Google for side by side images and you'll see what I'm talking about when I say that a 4.3" device like the Evo, is not much bigger than the SGS. BTW' The HD2 I have is a very thin phone yet it has the exact same 4.3" Evo screen......
My dream phone would look a lot like the Evo and be the same size only a bit thinner and have a flush camera lens (with a powered lens door) along with having the iPhone 4 screen (in 4.3" of course) and at least Android 2.2 while waiting for 3.0. 1ghz or 1.5 Samsung CPU, 16GB internal with SD card supprt and all the other goodies we all love.......
2Ghz CPU in a phone is not really viable as 99% of the time the phone sits on 200-400Mhz for power efficiency anyways. I'd rather see a dual core 1 to 1.2ghz CPU instead, so that twice the work is done in the lower, more power efficient Mhz range.
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2Ghz CPU in a phone is not really viable as 99% of the time the phone sits on 200-400Mhz for power efficiency anyways. I'd rather see a dual core 1 to 1.2ghz CPU instead, so that twice the work is done in the lower, more power efficient Mhz range.
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battery is rumored to be 2000mAh
I too had an HTC Athena, and loved it fiercely at the time when everyone else only had 2.8 inch screen tiny phones. If time is to go back to 2007 I'll still make the same choice. I'm into big screen phones which is in my mind the only real attraction of looking outside iphone.
Of course, today I would never want something as thick, big, and heavy as Athena anymore. Our yardstick for acceptability should change as technology moves forward rather than stay static.
The hugh battery need too drive such a PC (as one of us calls it) might be too heavy. So, I'll wait till the final spec to become available before deciding. By then there may be a 4.3 inch iphone too.
I'll start believing in 2GHz phones when anyone makes a 2GHz ARM SoC. Qualcomm just recently introduced a 1.3Ghz 45nm Snapdragon, and they were the first to bring a 1Ghz ARM-based SoC to market, so I doubt anyone is substantially ahead and about to release one that runs at twice the current speeds. ARM SoCs have definitely not advanced at such speeds in the past - they were hovering around 600MHz at peak for a long time.
Also, an updated version of Super AMOLED so soon, when it's only on a couple of devices? And along with it, a resolution that's higher than any other Android phone? I don't see this turning up soon.
So it has a CPU that doesn't exist yet, a screen that also doesn't exist yet, twice the RAM/ROM/storage and 25% more battery capacity than the Galaxy S, and an improved camera. Sounds like a wish-list to me.
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http://briefmobile.com/samsung-i9200-galaxy-s2-is-probably-a-fake
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I don't think this is well written. First, the processor is definitely the most suspect thing, I'll give them that. However, the talk about the naming convention and the Samsung Super AMOLED, but I don't think they know much about the tech behind it. If they can make a AMOLED with 720p, then the SAMOLED wont be that much development, it's in their development process that they just eliminate a layer of touch and put it into the screen, the real hard part is making 720p, but they've been working on this for a long time, to think because they just shipped their first devices with it doesn't mean much to me, personally, but what do I know?
Saying 4.3 is the sweetspot, I can't disgaree with more, they are trying to compete with HTC and Moto and all the others, they could care less if 50% of the market wants 4", 10% want 3.5" 20% want 3.7" and 15% want 4.3"...they want to grow and they can afford to make 4.3" screens since they can use it in other devices in the future.
I won't get started on the naming convention, because that is subject to change and just a dumb point of arguing. Perhaps their naming convention is based on how long it took to make a follow up, then 9200 is perfect.
Also, to those who say this will cannibalize sales, they would be different class devices and this would be more profitable. They'd love to partially cannibalize sales in order to get the highest-end, most profitable device into as many hands as possible. HTC is growing and growing fast with this strategy, Samsung would love to emulate it, if they can.
All that said, again, I don't think this is really a done deal...but I think that article is a bit naive with it's logic and focusing too much on what Qualcomm is doing when Samsung and Qualcomm use different chips.
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I'll start believing in 2GHz phones when anyone makes a 2GHz ARM SoC. Qualcomm just recently introduced a 1.3Ghz 45nm Snapdragon, and they were the first to bring a 1Ghz ARM-based SoC to market, so I doubt anyone is substantially ahead and about to release one that runs at twice the current speeds. ARM SoCs have definitely not advanced at such speeds in the past - they were hovering around 600MHz at peak for a long time.
Also, an updated version of Super AMOLED so soon, when it's only on a couple of devices? And along with it, a resolution that's higher than any other Android phone? I don't see this turning up soon.
So it has a CPU that doesn't exist yet, a screen that also doesn't exist yet, twice the RAM/ROM/storage and 25% more battery capacity than the Galaxy S, and an improved camera. Sounds like a wish-list to me.
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I think they are mistaking a dual core processor with 2ghz. It will be 2 1ghz processors.
But don't be so sure about their can't be 2ghz processor as Samsung is on the cutting edge of ARM they might surprise us. At the specs stated it would have better Dpi or similar compared to the Iphone. So it is bound to need a lot more processing power.
Hi there
currently i am having htc touch pro raphael and htc hero as i love android device and want to upgrade it
i have shortlisted 2 phone
1. Htc hd2
2. Samsung vibrant
my question is
* htc hd2 will get the native android in near future what are the chances?
* after porting the latest android rom from the forum on hd2 how many hours the battery runs on it
what will you suggest hd2 or vibrant
missing flashlight is not the concern for me....
As both the phones are costing me same price both are used phone in mint condition...
Please advise me...
I have the hd2 and use android every day.my best friend has samsung galaxy s and i can comparize the 2 devices.the hd2 has a gigant display but the galaxy s with its superamoled is fantastic.more than hd2.hd2 android ,in this moment , is not at the level of galaxy s.
Well.after this answers i will buy the galaxy s. I hope to help you in your choice.
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The AMOLED screens that samsungs use (and license to apple for the iphone) are the main reason to consider as a plus for samsung.
HD2 is a year old now, but, until the DesireHD comes out, is still the best phone on the market across the piece and has actually got better as people develop for it. There is now a effective choice of 5 operating systems. Cotulla even suggested that iOS would run well on it!
So if flexibility, speed and a big screen are important, get an HD2
If a bright screen is important the galaxy s's are hard to beat.
I am kind of deciding if I'm getting an HD2, mainly because of its flexibility.
The Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant is also on my list, and the display seems nice.
Battery life is my other major consideration. It looks to me that the Galaxy S Vibrant isn't very good at battery life, and that fellow users here have quite varying report on the battery life of HD2 (with android). It's hard to decide.....
and if I read correctly, the large capacity battery of the HD2 isn't support by android (or is it?)
I have both the vibrant and the HD2. I can say if you want a gorgeous screen, light as hell phone with lots of power under the hood (somewhat flaky Gps) then get the vibrant.
If you want to Tinker A LOT with a huge screen (not as vivid) and lots of power under the hood also then get the HD2.
I personally like the vibrant more but love to Tinker and the vibrant scene is sloooow going (thanks samsung) the HD2 is a dream of you love to mess around with you phone a lot.
The only thing for me I don't like right now about the HD2 is the horrid battery life when in android.
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abelau said:
I am kind of deciding if I'm getting an HD2, mainly because of its flexibility.
The Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant is also on my list, and the display seems nice.
Battery life is my other major consideration. It looks to me that the Galaxy S Vibrant isn't very good at battery life, and that fellow users here have quite varying report on the battery life of HD2 (with android). It's hard to decide.....
and if I read correctly, the large capacity battery of the HD2 isn't support by android (or is it?)
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hey i dont know if that can help i have both, i prefect galaxy s screen,battery,weight. i almost dont feel in my pocket, processor is very good too
screen when i see the same photo and the same program i just say wow
i hope that help....
HD2
+ highly modifiable
+ WINMO, ANDROID, UBUNTU, (MAYBE WP7)
+ TOMTOM (only winmo!)
+ PSX GAMES with PS3 controller (only winmo!)
+ android running atm with > 24 hrs normal use, wifi, a lot of texting and calling
- Android not 100% stable atm
- weight (it's not light, but you get used to it fast)
- no front camera (I would have loved that)
- speaker is in front, but media speaker is at the back, that's really a dealbreaker, I don't know how the Desire HD is doing on that part
- if you ONLY want android, don't pick HD2, I get a lot of time without signal (tried a dozen radio's, nothing solves the problem perfectly)
I had a samsung before I bought my HD2 and it sucked, but running android, it might be worth giving it a try. My phone before (the samsung) glass broke after one week I had it.. I hope samsung learned from it and made their screens better.
+ for the HD2, my phone fell down on the floor REALLY HARD about 6 times allready, only thing that always gets loose is battery cover, but my screen is still intact, allthough my phone 4/6 times landed on the screen itself and not on the back.
I would go for a desire HD, but I don't know if there are phones that HTC is releasing any time soon? My HD2 costed my 600 EUR so I would like to be certain that if I buy a new phone, that it's the best of the best. Like you I guess
My advice, wait... don't buy the galaxy S, a friend of my has a galaxy, it doesn't really differ much. I bet in 2 months, the next gen of devices will be even more wicked.
LCD or AMOLED (both have positive and negative sides, that's a little subjective)
If you only want to run android, get a native android phone. If you want to spent a lot of time hacking and setting up your phone and play with different OS's, then get a hd2. But understand that you have to have the time to spend researching and setting up up to get it stable and the way you want. It's not for the everyday person who just wants a phone that just works out of the box.
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HD2
+ highly modifiable
+ WINMO, ANDROID, UBUNTU, (MAYBE WP7)
+ TOMTOM (only winmo!)
+ PSX GAMES with PS3 controller (only winmo!)
+ android running atm with > 24 hrs normal use, wifi, a lot of texting and calling
- Android not 100% stable atm
- weight (it's not light, but you get used to it fast)
- no front camera (I would have loved that)
- speaker is in front, but media speaker is at the back, that's really a dealbreaker, I don't know how the Desire HD is doing on that part
- if you ONLY want android, don't pick HD2, I get a lot of time without signal (tried a dozen radio's, nothing solves the problem perfectly)
I had a samsung before I bought my HD2 and it sucked, but running android, it might be worth giving it a try. My phone before (the samsung) glass broke after one week I had it.. I hope samsung learned from it and made their screens better.
+ for the HD2, my phone fell down on the floor REALLY HARD about 6 times allready, only thing that always gets loose is battery cover, but my screen is still intact, allthough my phone 4/6 times landed on the screen itself and not on the back.
I would go for a desire HD, but I don't know if there are phones that HTC is releasing any time soon? My HD2 costed my 600 EUR so I would like to be certain that if I buy a new phone, that it's the best of the best. Like you I guess
My advice, wait... don't buy the galaxy S, a friend of my has a galaxy, it doesn't really differ much. I bet in 2 months, the next gen of devices will be even more wicked.
LCD or AMOLED (both have positive and negative sides, that's a little subjective)
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whoa psx games in winmo? how can i do that?
Cobaltcontroller
Had an HD2, got a Vibrant, came back to the HD2. I found the Vibrant to be too laggy even with custom ROMS
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thats the name of the app to play the psx games?
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thats the name of the app to play the psx games?
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Cobaltcontroller is what allows you to use ps3 or Wii controllers through bluetooth... fpsece is the playstation emulator. A very good one, too, with years of development work behind it.
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i have both as well. if you want a native android phone then get the vibrant. cm6 is close to being ported over and 2.2 update should be able by the end of this month. gps issues seemed to have been fixed under the current wave of OTA updates.
the processor especially the gpu on the vibrant is the best i've seen. it's right up there with the iphone4. i'm not surprised since samsung is the one who makes the iphone 4 processor lol. after rooting and overclocked the vibrant to my liking, i'm pulling quadrant scores over 2400 lol. although these scores some times are inflated it goes to show you that the samsung processor is on a different level over the last gen 1ghz snapdragon.
the hd2 is nice due to its huge screen and ability to port different OS. i'm actually waiting to see if we can port over win mo 7 on to it.
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The AMOLED screens that samsungs use (and license to apple for the iphone) are the main reason to consider as a plus for samsung.
HD2 is a year old now, but, until the DesireHD comes out, is still the best phone on the market across the piece and has actually got better as people develop for it. There is now a effective choice of 5 operating systems. Cotulla even suggested that iOS would run well on it!
So if flexibility, speed and a big screen are important, get an HD2
If a bright screen is important the galaxy s's are hard to beat.
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The iPhone uses TFT-LCD screens. No one is licensed to use Samsung's screens except them. Also my cousin sitting next to me right now has a vibrant, the screen isn't necessarily brighter, but it's more vivid and the colors are better. Personally the Samsung crapware really sucks, too.
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I have both, I would go with the Vibrant. It's has hands down the best screen n GPU of any phone. It'll probably offer the most relevancy in the long run. The HD2 imo is one of the best phones to be released but I'll go with the Vibrant if I had to choose one.
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I am kind of deciding if I'm getting an HD2, mainly because of its flexibility.
The Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant is also on my list, and the display seems nice.
Battery life is my other major consideration. It looks to me that the Galaxy S Vibrant isn't very good at battery life, and that fellow users here have quite varying report on the battery life of HD2 (with android). It's hard to decide.....
and if I read correctly, the large capacity battery of the HD2 isn't support by android (or is it?)
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HTC makes an extended battery for the HD2 with a kickstand built in.
i have one, it is amazing. i can go 3 days on my HD2 without charging.
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Morning all!
Hypothetical question time.
We're more than used to getting a slice from all worlds with our lovely HD2s, but what if we had to give them up tomorrow?
Now that we've had a taste of almost every new-age system out there, which new device would you choose?
Would you go for for example - the decicated Android cousin of the HD2, the Desire HD? Or has WP7 tickled your fancy to the extent that you'd consider a HD7?
Money's not an object!
For me - it'd be the Desire Z (aka HTC Vision)
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After watching Android develop over the last 6 months I can definitely say it's the OS for me. The openness, the ability to customise, the constant development and the stability does it all for me! I'd not touch WM6.5 again, though doing so on a new device would be difficult anyway! WP7 is nice, respect to MS for what they're doing and all, I don't think its for me.
As an everyday device I think the 'Z' has it all. I'd take it over the Desire, Desire HD, Evo, X10 and similar stuff. Boots within a second or two from nothing, no lag/slowdowns and I'm a sucker for a QWERTY keyboard, or at least having the option to use one! The screen's big enough for touch typing and everything else and despite the keyboard adding an extra layer, the Z feels just right when being held. Feels more ergonomic than the HD2, IMO.
Downside is going to a 800mhz processor from the HD2's 1ghz... I guess I should test non-transcoded XviD's on the Z and see how it handles them.
So that's my choice - what would be yours?
i think your choice is inferior device, since it has slower processor and not much better but smaller lcd screen
models with mechanical parts should be avoided ( i had many sliders before and many problems too)
you should always keep hd2 even if you get new phone
i bought iphone4 , better screen including superior multitouch performance, more memory, really wide selectoin of apps ( in my opinion superior to every other option including android) , phone looks really good, it has nice battery performance.
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i think your choice is inferior device, since it has slower processor and not much better but smaller lcd screen
models with mechanical parts should be avoided ( i had many sliders before and many problems too)
you should always keep hd2 even if you get new phone
i bought iphone4 , better screen including superior multitouch performance, more memory, really wide selectoin of apps ( in my opinion superior to every other option including android) , phone looks really good, it has nice battery performance.
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The G2's processor eats the HD2's processor for breakfast and then it can take a dump, a ****, and an enema and still come back and own the HD2's ass.
I say this because I've tested the G2 for about two weeks but in the end, I came back to the HD2 because I couldn't stand the heft. I only used the keyboard three times in that period. Maybe keyboards are simply just not for me. (G2 is still a bloody good phone though, and the construction is superb. The hinge issue was literally blown out of the water with a 100 kiloton nuke).
The G2 also has an SLCD screen which is seriously much better than an HD2. Put up the same picture on the screen and you'll see what I mean.
You say the G2 is an inferior device, with one of the reasons being a smaller LCD screen. Why the hell did you choose the iPhone 4 again? Was it for the 4.7 inch screen?
How is 576mb of ram on the HD2 less than the 512mb of ram on the iPhone4? Is your quantity of 1mb of ram on the iPhone somehow worth more than 1mb of ram on the HD2? Did you sprinkle some apple sauce on it or something here?
Please, if you're going to gloat about your iPhone 4, get your facts straight first.
HD2 is a very nice phone though. The screen size and the slimness is just perfect so a new phone at the moment wouldn't be needed unless I break it o.0
There's nothing on the market at the moment which I would choose in reference to the HD2 - it's just TDB!
If I have the choice it would be Moto Atrix.
I love the ability to transform Atrix to a netbook via a simple dock, and essentially taking all my files/work with me no matter where I go.
I wish HD2 supported video out then I don't need to have laptops anymore. The only downside for any phone is the screen size, but Moto Atrix has given a practical solution to that.
But trade HD2 for anything on the current market? No.
My old HD2 had to go to the service center due to digitizer problem, so... I bought another HD2 to have a "spare" one. It is a magic phone, with all the possibilities.
Indeed it has some hardware problems and bad battery life, but there is no better choice now.
I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
To me, there isn't any device, released, with so much of a big improvement over our HD2's, hardware wise. Our HD2's can still keep up with the rest of the pack in my opinion.
If say, some of the upcoming phones were to be released, I'd get a Samsung Infuse.
HD2 is still the best hardware today, and next half year
If I had a choice?
I'd replace it for a newer HD2.
Personaly: another HD2!
Possibly a HTC Inspire HD. My girlfriend has one, it's not as pretty as the HD2 but it's a nice little phone - how does it match up to the HD2 in terms of hardware?
I love the HD2 and all but Windows Mobile 6.5 just isn't right and android can be a little hit and miss at times (but still better than WinMo) .
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I wouldn't want to trade my HD2 for anything... I like both WP7 and Android, and really would have a hard time choosing between the 2.... but if I HAD to choose another phone right now, I would probably go for android and get the Dell Streak or Desire HD. I love the big screen and look of the streak, but I think the DHD has a little better hardware and more ram. Luckily we are not forced to get a new phone... if I broke my HD2 today, I would get a new HD2... that will be my answer until the next generation of dual-core phones are released. Even then, it will be hard to go to a phone with only 1 OS now that I've been spoiled by the HD2.
There isn't a phone that appels to me in the market at the moment, so I'm sticking with the HD2. My phone next needs to have a dual core processor with decent power/battery usage ratio, a SAMOLED screen that is bigger than 4", Android 2.3 and atleast a gig of RAM. Right now I'm waiting for the Galaxy S2, but I probably won't jump ship 'till the reviews are in.
Right now tho, HD2 rockin' Gingerbread is the perfect phone for me. I've tested the iPhone 4 and a Galaxy S but neither of them really cut it. Even though the latest iPhone is a really nice device, iOS is just too constrained and the Galaxy S is a bit too flimsy.
EDIT: Actually, my perfect phone right now would be a HD2 with a Android ROM with a couple more months of development behind it.
Without a doubt the Htc Pyramid. That phone is going to be bad ass. Not too far away either.
I presently have a Touch HD, an HD2, an HD7, a Desire, a Desire Z (G2), a Desire HD, an Omnia 7, a Galaxy S I9000, an iPhone 3GS and an iPhone 4. I have ordered a Nexus S and am going to get it within a few days. I have all these devices because I write on Android ROMs, hacks, mods, themes and apps for a living and need to test things out. Guess which one of these devices am I using as my primary 24/7 phone?
The HD2! And I don't even have any plans on switching to Nexus S when I get it.
Why? Because they just don't make devices like the HD2 anymore. While many of the above-listed phones might be more powerful and have marginally or even substantially better screen qualities or processing power, none of them is an HD2; none of them can dual-boot Android and Windows Phone 7, while coming originally with Windows Mobile 6.5 (which wasn't a bad OS at all in my opinion).
I wouldn't trade my HD2 for anything but an HD2.
EDIT: Regarding your choice of a Desire Z (G2), although it's your personal choice, I wouldn't recommend it. It looks awesome in pictures but when you hold it up against any of the above-mentioned phones, it starts to look like crap - the build quality really is THAT awful, and lets not even bring up the issues regarding gaining complete system access on it - first there's rooting, then the S-OFF and finally the ENGINEERING S-OFF, the last one having quite some risks associated with it even for power users! Would have been worth the trouble only if the build quality was even remotely close to that of the HD2 but since that isn't the case, it'd be the last phone I'd consider for my daily use device.
Unless someone can port WM6.5 onto a new equally as good or better handset, then it has to be another HD2.
Maybe one day Android will be as good, but probably not for a while
I have mine till October, then ill get a phone that gets released arround that date
xaccers said:
Unless someone can port WM6.5 onto a new equally as good or better handset, then it has to be another HD2.
Maybe one day Android will be as good, but probably not for a while
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+1
I second that.
hmm i'd wait for hd3
I'm strongly thinking about it as it is very tempting! Stock Android (soon to get CM7 which I'm currently using on my N1), bigger screen, dual-core, and HDMI-out (mirroring too). What do you guys think?
Went to Tmobile store today and played with one. It felt solid and seemed to perform fast around the launcher & home screens. But it just didn't feel that much different than my N1 and I don't like the large soft button space at the bottom. I'm holding out for the Pyramid now rumored to be here June 8th.
The Pyramid/Sensation looks absolutely amazing in terms of hardware; can't deny that. But HTC going the locked-bootloader route worries me. And the fact that Cyanogen himself bought a G2x makes it even more awesome. I love my N1 but I think I'm definitely going for a G2x, Sensation, or Galaxy S II this year.
Are you guys experience slow down on your n1? Cuz I am. My quadrant score on 6.1 was high running at 1113 MHz. Now its on cm7 stable release and the highest it can get is 1398. To back that up, sense preview isn't smooth anymore. Any idea?
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The Pyramid/Sensation looks absolutely amazing in terms of hardware; can't deny that. But HTC going the locked-bootloader route worries me. And the fact that Cyanogen himself bought a G2x makes it even more awesome. I love my N1 but I think I'm definitely going for a G2x, Sensation, or Galaxy S II this year.
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Agree, one of those 3 should be a super upgrade this year for me as well...
Switched today ..this phone is a great update
G2X seems to be cool,but I just ran out of money
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I'm most likely going to wait for the Pyramid/Sensation. Love HTC and that phone seems to be the first all-round upgrade to the N1. Gorilla glass, great display + GPU power to drive it, plenty of RAM + storage (compared to my N1!), good looks; only thing it's missing is the trackball LED. Why has everyone dropped the idea of a repeating notification system? I don't care about the trackball, but the light is very useful in meetings.
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... I don't care about the trackball, but the light is very useful in meetings.
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I even care about the trackball..moving cursor is so simple with it..I honestly miss the trackball!
I've switched to the OX2, seems worthy:
I'd consider the G2X if the 850 band was confirmed (? maybe it is/isn't, haven't checked in a day or two)
Currently, I'm happy with my phones, but I have a upgrade coming from AT&T in June and I suspect I will use it on a Galaxy S II (that is, if it's out on AT&T by then). This will be the first time in a while I've gotten to take advantage of an upgrade.
Edit: looks like no 850
I'm still holding out for the HTC Pyramid/Sensation ... I can live with the new HTC Sense for a few months before rooting the phone. Then when I root it it will be 1. like a new phone and 2. quite a bit faster. Kinda like a mini-upgrade to an upgraded phone!
You're assuming you'll be able to get round the locked bootloader though.
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You're assuming you'll be able to get round the locked bootloader though.
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He's an over achiever that's why lol: )
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garyo said:
only thing it's missing is the trackball LED. Why has everyone dropped the idea of a repeating notification system? I don't care about the trackball, but the light is very useful in meetings.
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A) Because none of the phones coming out have multi-colored trackballs/trackpads. Actually, I don't think any other Android phone world-wide has a way to display multi-colored notifications. It looks like all manufacturers have dropped support for trackballs/trackpads in general (along with Google since they added the text selection features in Gingerbread). It's an amazing feature on the N1, but it's the first (and probably the last) phone to have it.
B) But it doesn't matter because XDA members have found alternate methods of notifications (ie using the backlight on the buttons, or a few pixels on the screen, etc)
The HTC Dream, G1, had a multi-colored notification light that wasn't implanted inside the trackball. And it was awesome. It can't be that hard to bring that tiny little multi-colored LED back, but apparently no one really cares. Cause it would still be in HTC phones today. Or I guess it could have been removed for aesthetics.
I honestly don't know why the G2X doesn't interest me. It is incredibly fast, it runs stock Android (which I don't like), and it is on my carrier. But this device simply doesn't manage to spark my interest. I guess compared to other device coming out this year it simply isn't that impressive. The Tegra 2 found in the device isn't that great in comparison to the Adreno 220 found in the HTC Sensation and Exynos found the Galaxy S2, it also has a sub-par screen and an unnecessarily large bezel.
The only reason for me to get this device would be the developer support, but then again, even if Cyanogen himself doesn't have a device doesn't mean it won't be graced with CyanogenMod. Ehhh, I'm pretty sure I'll be skipping this. However iff it is the only thing good on T-Mobile when my contract is up I might have to get it.
Eclair~ said:
it also has a sub-par screen
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Explain?!
It's an IPS LCD as used in the iPhone 4.
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The Tegra 2 found in the device isn't that great in comparison to the Adreno 220
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Actually, quite the opposite. The 220 is just barely, barely faster, and in some cases (3D) the 2X pulls ahead. Check out these benchmarks from Anandtech (and note: these are for a 1.5 GHz Adreno 220 whereas the Sensation will be 1.2 GHz):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/3
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(The above 1.5 GHz test device is also not battery optimized at all, so performance may be even lower once HTC tweaks the real 1.2 GHz device to take that into account.)
Either way, it's at least a 200-300% improvement over the N1. I'd love to buy a G2x but will if and only if my N1 sells well on eBay (will list it this weekend, any takers? )
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Explain?!
It's an IPS LCD as used in the iPhone 4.
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Having an IPS screen has barely anything to do with color reproduction, it more so benefits viewing angles. Which aren't even a problem with AMOLED, Super AMOLED, or Super LCD as is. The IPS LCD screen compared to those listed above is only decent. Washed out compared to the others with blacks that can't even compare to AMOLED.
SAMOLED - SLCD - IPS LCD
And this is before Super AMOLED Plus~
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Actually, quite the opposite. The 220 is just barely, barely faster, and in some cases (3D) the 2X pulls ahead. Check out these benchmarks from Anandtech (and note: these are for a 1.5 GHz Adreno 220 whereas the Sensation will be 1.2 GHz):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/3
(The above 1.5 GHz test device is also not battery optimized at all, so performance may be even lower once HTC tweaks the real 1.2 GHz device to take that into account.)
Either way, it's at least a 200-300% improvement over the N1. I'd love to buy a G2x but will if and only if my N1 sells well on eBay (will list it this weekend, any takers? )
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Yes... and you posted the only result that put the Tegra above the Adreno 220. In all others, it clearly came out ahead. Though that 1.5GHz clock might really account for those differences. I doubt even underclocked to 1.2GHz would it make the Adreno 220 less powerful than the Tegra 2, but who am I to say?
1) Need an AT&T 3G compatible device
2) Strongly prefer a stock Android device that receives its updates from Google.
The Nexus One is the only device out that fulfills both of my requirements.
I wouldn't mind a Nexus S if the AT&T band version ever comes out :-\