Next Generation HTC Dream/G1 coming soon.. - G1 General

According to boygeniusreport.com the HTC Vision, a rumored Android smartphone is in fact a variant of the Desire complete with a sliding FULL QWERTY keypad.
See original article here --->> http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/05/21/htc-vision-rumored-to-be-a-desire-with-qwerty-keypad/
I'm hopeful it comes to the U.S. as we need a direct competitor to the Verizon Droid phones that are confirmed out.
More importantly we need a truly amazing phone to finally move on from the HTC Dream/G1
Specs:
3.7″ WVGA display
5 megapixel camera
1GHz processor
Android 2.1 or 2.2?
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the desire has sense. The G1 is stock android. There is a world of difference between the two, i for one hate the look of sense. And that picture is a mockup lol not really wheat teh phone will lokk like

mejorguille said:
the desire has sense. The G1 is stock android. There is a world of difference between the two, i for one hate the look of sense. And that picture is a mockup lol not really wheat teh phone will lokk like
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Its an artist rendition, no one said that's how its going to look like. hahaha
For now its a rumored phone but many different sources are indicating the validity of the claim so more likely than not it will likely appear in the following months.
Most people have been waiting for a upgrade from the HTC Dream/G1 for a long while now.
Thanks for your comment but not everyone is going to agree with you.

mejorguille said:
the desire has sense. The G1 is stock android. There is a world of difference between the two, i for one hate the look of sense. And that picture is a mockup lol not really wheat teh phone will lokk like
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Found this in a few minutes, even if it does have "Sense" so you can easily turn it off
Just like you would with a custom Rom, I do this all the time if I choose to change the Launcher or Home Replacement. LOL
------>> http://www.androidguys.com/2009/10/22/how-to-turn-off-htc-sense/

Or you could root the phone and tell Sense to **** off. I for one can't wait for a Nexus-like device with a keyboard. Why didn't HTC make one sooner? They knew the G1 sold like hot cakes.

God, I've been dying a good HTC qwerty phone. I've been using my MT3G for near a year now, and have gotten pretty used to the virtual KB, but I gotta say I still miss my old G1's slide out KB

Its not technically a G1 sucessor IMO. The myTouch Slide is.

pziv2 said:
Its not technically a G1 sucessor IMO. The myTouch Slide is.
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Look closely at the Mytouch Slide specs, its a step back and is more last generation than Next Generation.
We need something that can compete with this:
--->> http://phones.verizonwireless.com/htc/incredible/

legend221 said:
Look closely at the Mytouch Slide specs, its a step back and is more last generation than Next Generation.
We need something that can compete with this:
--->> http://phones.verizonwireless.com/htc/incredible/
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i dont fully agree with that the specs are right on and better in some places than the motorolla droid so its not last generation at all. plus it looks fast and is getting the 2.2 update so i dont see how its last gen if its getting all the new hardware and has the same specs as one of the better selling phones

jriv said:
i dont fully agree with that the specs are right on and better in some places than the motorolla droid so its not last generation at all. plus it looks fast and is getting the 2.2 update so i dont see how its last gen if its getting all the new hardware and has the same specs as one of the better selling phones
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Mytouch Slide may look like a duck but it doesn't quack like a duck:
The 600MHz ARM processor is unacceptable vs the 1GHz processor the Vision would have, Droid Incredible has now.
Just like a computer the faster the processor the better the device.
T-Mobile needs to be cutting edge so it retains its customer base, everyone and their grandma wants to have an Android now
If they don't stay at it to offer the newest, most innovative android phones there are plenty of other companies that will.

legend221 said:
Mytouch Slide may look like a duck but it doesn't quack like a duck:
The 600MHz ARM processor is unacceptable vs the 1GHz processor the Vision would have, Droid Incredible has now.
Just like a computer the faster the processor the better the device.
T-Mobile needs to be cutting edge so it retains its customer base, everyone and their grandma wants to have an Android now
If they don't stay at it to offer the newest, most innovative android phones there are plenty of other companies that will.
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I fully agree. You can look at the mytouch slide and can see it was a step back in hardware from Nexus and a step back from the high end Android phones on Verizon / Sprint *Evo an Incredible* So I wont be wasting a 2 year agreement on the mytouch slide but will also wait for a 1ghz keyboard android phone.

legend221 said:
Mytouch Slide may look like a duck but it doesn't quack like a duck:
The 600MHz ARM processor is unacceptable vs the 1GHz processor the Vision would have, Droid Incredible has now.
Just like a computer the faster the processor the better the device.
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That is a very bold statement and totally flawed. One could conceivably shoehorn a 6-core opteron chip onto a phone and it would be wickedly fast and versatile, problem is that it would drain the battery dead in SECONDS. You really need to think about things for a bit -- why, if "faster is better" would intel be making such a killing off the ATOM chips? Why isn't anyone building phones with Intel's or AMD's fastest chips?
Because faster is NOT better! In a phone, EFFICIENT is better. The difficult part about building a phone is balancing the performance with the available BATTERY CAPACITY. You can make a wickedly fast phone, but without battery technology capable of keeping it running for a decent amount of time, it is pointless.
IMO, the 720x chips in DREAM/MAGIC are plenty. The 3D component could use some advancement, but the CPU itself is lots. We're not trying to win speed races here!
T-Mobile needs to be cutting edge so it retains its customer base, everyone and their grandma wants to have an Android now
If they don't stay at it to offer the newest, most innovative android phones there are plenty of other companies that will.
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T-Mobile is NOT A PHONE MANUFACTURER!!!!
They are a MOBILE SERVICE PROVIDER.
The phones they sell are made by any number of actual hardware manufacturers, including HTC, Motorola, Nokia, etc. Having one phone or another really doesn't matter in terms of SERVICE PROVISION. Especially since they use SIMCARDS -- you can buy ANY phone you like and use it. The only things affecting whether they have customers or not is their PRICE and SERVICE QUALITY.

legend221 said:
According to boygeniusreport.com the HTC Vision, a rumored Android smartphone is in fact a variant of the Desire complete with a sliding FULL QWERTY keypad.
See original article here --->> http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/05/21/htc-vision-rumored-to-be-a-desire-with-qwerty-keypad/
I'm hopeful it comes to the U.S. as we need a direct competitor to the Verizon Droid phones that are confirmed out.
More importantly we need a truly amazing phone to finally move on from the HTC Dream/G1
Specs:
3.7″ WVGA display
5 megapixel camera
1GHz processor
Android 2.1 or 2.2?
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I know that that's just a painting of what someone expects the phone to look like and it doesn't necessarily match anything, but I really hope that if this device is real, that it doesn't have that stupid angle between the keyboard and the screen. A straight slide is fine, but too many weird movements really will destroy durability.
On the plus side, if the picture is accurate, the keyboard looks just about PERFECT. Even better than the DREAM's keyboard even, and that's saying a lot! 5 rows with ARROW KEYS!!!! Beautiful.
Only thing we'd have to do is strip that SENSE crap off it!

If it is going to look like that then I am in for one. I am not going to give up my G1 until a good phone comes out to blow it out of the water. Even more so now with having rooted my phone and CM 5.0.7 stable installed. I just hope we can kill some of the bloatware fluff and keep it smooth because T-Mobile insist on limiting us on RAM.... WTH? An extra 512mb is only a few cents more, pass the cost onto the customers if that is such an issue!

lbcoder said:
That is a very bold statement and totally flawed. One could conceivably shoehorn a 6-core opteron chip onto a phone and it would be wickedly fast and versatile, problem is that it would drain the battery dead in SECONDS. You really need to think about things for a bit -- why, if "faster is better" would intel be making such a killing off the ATOM chips? Why isn't anyone building phones with Intel's or AMD's fastest chips?
Because faster is NOT better! In a phone, EFFICIENT is better. The difficult part about building a phone is balancing the performance with the available BATTERY CAPACITY. You can make a wickedly fast phone, but without battery technology capable of keeping it running for a decent amount of time, it is pointless.
IMO, the 720x chips in DREAM/MAGIC are plenty. The 3D component could use some advancement, but the CPU itself is lots. We're not trying to win speed races here!
T-Mobile is NOT A PHONE MANUFACTURER!!!!
They are a MOBILE SERVICE PROVIDER.
The phones they sell are made by any number of actual hardware manufacturers, including HTC, Motorola, Nokia, etc. Having one phone or another really doesn't matter in terms of SERVICE PROVISION. Especially since they use SIMCARDS -- you can buy ANY phone you like and use it. The only things affecting whether they have customers or not is their PRICE and SERVICE QUALITY.
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In regards to the faster processor someone just has to read from the experiences a Nexus One user has about the performance and realize that a 1Ghz is indeed wanted by current users pushing thier G1's to its limits. Its up to the person if they want a 600Mhz or a 1Ghz processor true enough but for me the 1Ghz is a no brainer. Most of these Nexus One owners are mainly ex-G1 and Mytouch so only they can understand the real difference which is quite significant espcially due to them not having a keyboard anymore and them being satisfied with thier purchase.
There are times when I am using an emulator and saying to myself how much smoother and less laggy this would be if I ran a phone with a better 3D processor and a faster CPU to support it. Im sure many others would also agree with this.
Also, no one said T-Mobile was the phone manufacturer but it is up to them which phones they have in thier lineup one way or another. I know how and why but thats beside the point. Verizon in particular with thier marketing dept. have made the "Droid" franchise one of the biggest one yet, I am reminded daily when there is a commercial on the TV. I love T-Mobile but also realize that if they do not offer a suitable G1/Mytouch replacement with a modern eye pleasing body and styling, high quality and suitable size screen, full qwerty keyboard, 2.1 or 2.2, high megapixel camera, bleeding edge CPU, capable 3D processor and a suitable battery to support all of this many people are going to leave the company if they havent already.
We all realize this website is almost exclusive for our HTC phones. While many buy unlocked phones at a premium price many more xda members actually get thier phones directly from thier service provider as I said when I mentioned T-Mobile earlier because with a contract it is more than paid for through the length of it. Most of the time its under $200.00 with a 2-year contract vs. $450.00+ without if its new to the market and cutting edge.

If you want a 1ghz processor, get a nexus one. End of story. If you would rather have a 600mhz processor and a keyboard, get a slide. You have options. No sense in *****ing about them or blaming companies for YOUR inability to make a decision. If you want the droid, get it, if you want the incredible, get it. Problem is YOU don't want to pay for it, you want it for free or discounted. Well, Your also SOL. SO pay the price to get what you want, or don't and get something more in your price range.

We know what high end phones should be. Right now that seems to be similar spec'd phones to the Evo, Incredible, etc. Adding a keyboard does not add much except bulk. So why are they not making equivalent high end sliders? Who knows?
Adding a keyboard is not going to add a drastic drain on battery life. So arguing that sliders should not get a 1 Ghz processor because of battery drain, when there are phones already out with the same processor, is moot.
All we are asking for is equivalently spec'd phones to the current high end line of iClones. It is not that difficult to grasp... Really. I promise.
Personally, I would pay $1000 or more for the right high end Android slider... They just don't make it yet.

Certainly looks a lot better than the MyTouch Slide. I hope it's something like that phone. I love my G1! Especially the keyboard. Really hope they make a new G1.. :\
I did a post about it.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index....rocessor-35mm-jack-atmel-maxtouch-sensor-etc/
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mob...n-Processor-3-5-mm-Jack-amp-Atmel/td-p/366743
(Well instead of what I said in the forum about looking the same.. Maybe a remodeled, but still similar design)

the keyboard looks like the touch pro 2 one...looks like a fake image?

I am going to add a little more to my last post...
As long as they do not try to mimic the Verizon Kin Two in looks I will be happy. I was attempting to mess with that phone yesterday at the Microsoft Store in Scottsdale, AZ..... Personally I think the feel sucks, it was harder to type on than the G1, and it was slow loading up pages. The only thing I did like was the heavy clear coating on the outside on the top of the phone.

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reasons for buying the i9000 Galaxy S

Hey guys,
I'm not that pretty sure anymore about the phone.
My main PRO is the big screen and Android.
The main CON is: Samsung...
My friends, who already owned a Samsung warned me.
One of them said:"I'll give you 3 month till you send it back, because it's not working anymore."
The missing camera LED, notification LED and the update policy of Samsung are reinforcing my concerns.
I'm currently not sure about buying one, so could you give me your reasons for choosing the Galaxy S over a HTC Desire/Legend or an iPhone?
iPhone - don't like the platform and Apple condescending BS.
Desire - have one currently, excellent phone, reasoning for trying the Galaxy S - better graphics prowess (I like gaming), TV Out & DLNA, more storage space for app installation, WiFi tether, DivX, the screen - both better display characteristics and multitouch, better audio SQ.
EDIT: Oh, and the Desire's bluetooth implementation is anoying with peripherals like keyboards/controllers/heart rate monitors.
You dont need to go for htc or apple. There's the new motorola coming out that also has Arm cpu
http://www.slashgear.com/motorola-xt720-hands-on-video-0788530/
I'm loving the cam on it.. and build quality.. but not super amoled but apparently they have great screens (motorola droids)
i still want the galaxy but build quality is worrying..
edit: just doesn't make sense why accessing the app drawer on the motorola is so sluggish lol... seriously it's just icons... I'm pretty sure it's Android's fault not the phone.
edit 2: btw you just worried me as well Knobibrot LOL with your story. though I've heard many but now I'm really thinking about it since I'll be traveling for a long time, I need a lasting phone that does 720p. and Motorola seems like it has strong build quality and a great camera. And it's still Android so hmm..
edit 3: I don't care about watching movies, I don't watch movies on cell phones. LOL count me in Knobibrot, why should we buy it ? haha Galaxy is a great phone but I am not sure all because of build quality and how long it may last.. since already many errors are being reported..
edit 4: arg it doesn't have wireless n the motorola and it's not amoled.
Still have my doubts too and am questioning the logic behind leaving out all leds. It does appear to be a long running design choice with Samsung phones from what I've read.
I'm ditching my HD2 due to unreliability issues, so the Galaxy does seem a bit of a gamble when the Desire has so many great reviews. It's that damn screen on the G that keeps pulling me back tho!
this "samsung-bashing" is really getting boring...
its always the manufacturers fault if the user is too stupid, right ?
would you buy a car without ever testdriving it ? no you wouldn't even if the guy who wants to sell it to you says "its the greatest thing since sliced bread and it does 200 mph" !
but with phones it's seemingly totally different... the manufacturer tells you something and you do believe the **** out of it.. instead of just taking the goddamn device in your hand and use the features you need and check if it is ok for you.
yeah i know, its so much harder to get a phone into your hand than having a test-drive, right ?
oh, and when you save all your money for a phone its the best thing to confide in the manufacturers claims and blindly buy it without testing
either be a man and buy something without testing, because you have the money and don't care if its **** (its still YOUR DECISION to spend the money on something you never used before) or be "smart" and test the device, if the money does matter so much for you...
i owned the i8510 and the i8910 samsung devices and they were both top of the line... i got no complains
and here the reasons for buying the i9000:
big super amoled screen
best videoplayer on a device so far (mkv, avi/divx support out of the box)
720p @ 30 fps so far (not "up to 30 fps" like the iphone 4 )
android os
nice samsung customization with touchwiz
Simple answer from me.....
If I don't like, then by law under the Distance Selling Regulations I can send it back and obtain a full refund inc postage.
Well the whole reason with pre-ordering without testing for me is that manufacturers these days don't seem too good (or perhaps intentionally) at judging demand, so if I'm not getting one in the first batch then I could end up waiting months. But that's why I've been checking every review and user opinion, so at least I've got an idea.
just watch steven jobs tout his iphone ... don't you think he knows that the iphone is crap in some regards ? yet he sells it to "stupid" folks as best thing since sliced bread ... why would he tell you something he knows the iphone is bad in ? his job is to sell phones and not to tell the truth ... same is with the other manufacturers
even without testing every phone i did not have many complains .. some people really need a reality check if they blame the manufacturers for saying their product was great....
Simple answer from me.....
If I don't like, then by law under the Distance Selling Regulations I can send it back and obtain a full refund inc postage.
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Now, you see, in my coutry for example they respect this law only if the contents of the packege is intact.
Practice shows that sallers always say that the packege was unwrapped and the unit shows signs of usage and they decline taking it back. And that means weeks or even months of Consumer Advocate work or a lawsuit.
So your suggestion is out of question for me (and I think other unfortunates) and becasue of that I always wait and read a lot before I buy a thing that I can't test properly.
DonAndress said:
Now, you see, in my coutry for example they respect this law only if the contents of the packege is intact.
Practice shows that sallers always say that the packege was unwrapped and the unit shows signs of usage and they decline taking it back. And that means weeks or even months of Consumer Advocate work or a lawsuit.
So your suggestion is out of question for me (and I think other unfortunates) and becasue of that I always wait and read a lot before I buy a thing that I can't test properly.
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Well my heart goes out to you in not having a government strong enough to enforce better consumer laws.
v1rtu4l said:
just watch steven jobs tout his iphone ... don't you think he knows that the iphone is crap in some regards ? yet he sells it to "stupid" folks as best thing since sliced bread ... why would he tell you something he knows the iphone is bad in ? his job is to sell phones and not to tell the truth ... same is with the other manufacturers
even without testing every phone i did not have many complains .. some people really need a reality check if they blame the manufacturers for saying their product was great....
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In that case you will simply love reading this....
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Like the bearded one, I shall be returning mine under UK distance selling regulations if I'm not entirely happy with it. But I am cautiously optimistic. Samsung is a big company with a lot of customers, it stands to reason they're gonna have some unhappy ones.
This phone is going to be such a big seller (over 1 million pre-orders in Europe), they will have to get it sorted if there are any little niggles, plus if they plan to be taken seriously on Android they do realize they need to change their support and policy towards upgrades. We've already seen them make a clear statement that 2.2 will be supported.
But my main reason for buying it, there's still nothing else out there that comes close in terms of overall capability.
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I've got nothing against Apple, but that did make me chuckle.
Knobibrot said:
I'm currently not sure about buying one, so could you give me your reasons for choosing the Galaxy S over a HTC Desire/Legend or an iPhone?
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The choice between iPhone and the GS is more a choice between android and iOS. I thought about buying the iphone, but then I realized I hated their push notification system (had a lot of bad experiences with it with my iTouch), the lack of widgets, the lousy multitasking (I use ebuddy a lot, and the multitasking implementation of the iphone only allows for push messages with IM's). The iPhone itself is a great device, technically, but the software just doesn't cut it for me.
The choice between the Desire and the GS is a bit more difficult. While the Desire is the nice looking, better built cheaper phone with the great Sense UI (although the touchwiz UI also has some nice things, like the app list and the ability to take screenshots), the Samsung is better in about every other aspect. For example:
-Better, bigger screen with better multi-touch (the Desire has trouble tracking as much as 2 fingers at the same time).
-Better processor AND better graphics processor.
-Better bluetooth and wifi and higher mobile upload speed (2mbps<5.76 mbps)
-Better media player and sound quality with support for Avi, FLAC, ...
-Extra memory, both ROM and general
I'm coming from a desire myself, because I really had trouble playing games on emulators with the bad multi-touch. The GPU also wasn't able to keep up in games like Asphalt.
With the GS already on amazon for 499 euros, I would definitly choose it over the desire, which is around 469 here in Belgium.
v1rtu4l said:
this "samsung-bashing" is really getting boring...
i owned the i8510 and the i8910 samsung devices and they were both top of the line... i got no complains
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I've only had one Samsung phone so far (i900 Omnia I) but in the 2 years that I owned it I never had a serious problem, even though I bought it 2nd hand on eBay. The only few times it crashed was when I installed a new app it didn't like.
The main reasons why I'm interested in this phone are the 4" Super AMOLED screen, 8GB/16GB on board storage plus SD card, 512mb RAM, 2GB ROM, 1GHz processor with 1500 mAh battery suggests good battery life (although reports so far are mixed), confirmed update to Froyo (as per gsmarena) and apparently good video player and sound quality. Also, I had good experiences with the camera of my Omnia so I'm hoping this bodes well for the Galaxy S camera (yes, I'm aware that it doesn't have a flash). I hated TouchWiz on the Omnia and would prefer plain vanilla Android on the GS, but GS TouchWiz looks much less invasive and more practical than Omnia TouchWiz so I think I can live with it.
I'm keeping an eye on the iPhone 4 as well, but I'm put off by the small screen (smaller than previous iPhones), no flash support for the browser (not so much for youtube but so many websites use it) and I'm a bit suspicious about Apple potentially hobbling Google sync functions. Also not looking forward to iAds.
Yeah, the performance of the phone and the screen are the things that are keeping me from waiting for another phone.
Hearing about bad build quality from those that tried it worries me.
But then again I come from an HTC Magic which has bad build quality but nothing happened to it in a year except dust under screen, but on Sammy that won't be a problem.
Reasons ?! i could write many reasons but this is all i have for now
1- Of course the Super Amoled Screen (best screen to date)
2- The screen is BIG!
3- The Hummingbird processor that means i wont have problems watching a movie on my phone and also it'll rock on game
4- Tv-out sulotions so you have:
a- Wired tv-out using S-video cable .
b- DLNA so you can stream your videos/images/music to your TV ,Media Player, PC , Laptop or PS3 wirelessly
5- Huge internal memory so you can throw anything you want in it .If it's not enough just throw in a 32 GB M-SD card
6- Codecs support so it's ready for your vids
These are the reasons i have for now that makes the galaxy s stands out between Desire , Legend and iPhone !
So if i made a comparison between each device the list will grately expand !
I hated TouchWiz on the Omnia and would prefer plain vanilla Android on the GS, but GS TouchWiz looks much less invasive and more practical than Omnia TouchWiz so I think I can live with it.
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I don't know the source any more, but I read somewhere that it's possible to deactivate TouchWiz and use the Vanilla Android instead.
I'll do a search on that!
Thanks for all these great comments.
And informations like the 1 million pre-orders in Europe and Cooki3s' review of the Desire really helps!
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I don't know the source any more, but I read somewhere that it's possible to deactivate TouchWiz and use the Vanilla Android instead.
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Yeah, I think I read that too somewhere. You can deactivate it on the Omnia, so that would make sense. But the GS version looks like I might actually find some of it practical to use, e.g. the Daily Briefing (provided Samsung modify it to allow custom news feeds), unlike the Omnia version which I didn't find very useful.
If the GS build quality is as good as other Samsung's I've had I would be happy. I've always found the build quality excellent, especially compared to SE and Nokia.
However, Samsung haven't been the fasted at updates, so the sooner they confirm Froyo the better.

**Video and Benchmark Uploaded** anyone considering LG Optimus S? I'm impressed

I was in the sprint store today and notice the Optimus S and was IMPRESSSED.
It's very responsive and smooth. I was really curious to why and after some research..
Qualcomm MSM7627 chipset with dual cores really help with graphics and games.
technical specs:
* Two ARM cores integrated into a single chip – a dedicated CPU core and a dedicated modem processor – for an unparalleled level of integration:
o 1. 600MHz applications processor with floating point unit and L2 cache
o 2. 400MHz modem processor
Finally Got it
Here's my video showcasing the SPEED of apps and games:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4chj2BOUec4
-1st app I launch was GoogleMaps, then Youtube, Angry Birds, and Burning Tires
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Compared it side by side (I have overclocked hero)
What I liked..
-TONS faster than hero, website scrolling smmooooth
-It's only $50...
-3G so no $10 surcharge
-Slightly brighter
-I believe it was 512mb ram (hero has 256?)
-Doesn't feel cheap at all
What didn't liked...
-No led light, but there's some apps that can make your phone vibrate for notifications
-Fiberglass display (scratches easier, but will not crack if dropped)
mxl180 said:
I was in the sprint store today and notice the Optimus S and was IMPRESSSED.
It's very responsive and smooth. I was really curious to why and after some research..
Qualcomm MSM7627 chipset with dual cores really help with graphics and games.
technical specs:
* Two ARM cores integrated into a single chip – a dedicated CPU core and a dedicated modem processor – for an unparalleled level of integration:
o 1. 600MHz applications processor with floating point unit and L2 cache
o 2. 400MHz modem processor
Compared it side by side (I have overclocked hero)
What I liked..
-Faster than hero, website scrolling smmooooth
-It's only $50...
-3G so no $10 surcharge
-Slightly brighter
-I believe it was 512mb ram (hero has 256?)
What didn't liked...
-No led light, but there's some apps that can make your phone vibrate for notifications
-Fiberglass display (scratches easier, but will not crack if dropped)
-Something I notice the DATA loading was noticeably slower on LG, maybe because my hero is cynogenmod data tweaked??
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i have both phones and i love the optimus. it loads up real fast compared to the hero. i will not get rid of my optimus unless it is for an evo. that is how good of a phone that i think it is. it also has alot hotter receiver in it and gets a signal in places that i couldn't before. overall i rate it an 8.5 out of 10
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i have both phones and i love the optimus. it loads up real fast compared to the hero. i will not get rid of my optimus unless it is for an evo. that is how good of a phone that i think it is. it also has alot hotter receiver in it and gets a signal in places that i couldn't before. overall i rate it an 8.5 out of 10
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Mm, thats nice to hear. Maybe my mom would like an Optimus instead of her crappy blackberry.
Intersting, I didn't expect it to be that great! Now I'm looking forward to try one out
I was looking at the Optimus too. My heart REALLY wants an Evo but my head just cant justify paying for the 4g service when it's not in my area and probably wont be for a very long time.
I just bought this phone and I am in LOVE. It feels soo good in your hand, perfect weight and balance. The screen is vibrant, battery life good, and with froyo 2.2 it is amazingly buttery smooth. It makes the EVO seem like a goliath in a good way. Perfect phone and I've owned alot of phones. Now wheres our roms??!
My sister just got one of these and I was thoroughly surprises as well. The speed of this phone puts the hero to shame. Everything is fast and smooth with no lag anywhere. The scrolling the app drawer and most noticeably the typing are all fast and smooth. I'm running cm6.1 overlooked and here phone stock is 10 times better. Angry birds runs perfect on it and the gallery and camera have no hesitation when opening or being used. This is a good phone. I'm seriously considering buying it to hold over until another top of the line is released for gingerbread.
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I was thinking about the lg. before we moved to verizon.. But since getting the droid incredible..I cant think of any android I would rather have atm..perfect size. and everything just blazes.. Sprint really needs something like the DINC without 4g.. etc,, cause they have a big hole in the android selection..
Those midrange.. like the sanyo and sammy. both suck.. basicly they need a evo with a smaller screen and no 3g. oh wait thats the DINC..lol
Thats the only thing I like bout verizon the selection... Sprint always has gaps.
But that lg does like pretty decent.. might tell my bro.. since he has one of my heros atm.. still have 2 in my dresser with my tp2 and a tour..
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My sister just got one of these and I was thoroughly surprises as well. The speed of this phone puts the hero to shame. Everything is fast and smooth with no lag anywhere. The scrolling the app drawer and most noticeably the typing are all fast and smooth. I'm running cm6.1 overlooked and here phone stock is 10 times better. Angry birds runs perfect on it and the gallery and camera have no hesitation when opening or being used. This is a good phone. I'm seriously considering buying it to hold over until another top of the line is released for gingerbread.
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I just tried it at the store and completely agree, it's a suuuuuper fast and smooth experience. I don't know how they did it, but it's a joy to use.
I also agree with the comment above me. The Droid Incredible has the best balance of performance and physical size, and it would be awesome if Sprint had something similar without the 4G $10/mo surcharge.
At first I was a little iffy about letting a relative get the Optimus S before I got a chance to use it and read up on the drvice. Boy was I blown away by the phones speed and smoothness. Its a nice device that I wouldn't mind having for daily use.
Form factor is nice as well. It would be nice is a few showed up on eBay at a reasonable price,I'd be interested in getting one off contract to hold be over if I need a phone.
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It will be $1.00 at Best Buy on Black Friday. I also saw something about it being FREE at Radio Shack.
I've been reading up on this phone all over on different forums and from what I've learned:
Rooting can be accomplished by using Z4Root from the Market - even after the recent OTA update.
The OTA update includes Swype.
No Flash yet. The GPU is fast enough, but apparently it isn't supported by Adobe. Not sure 100%, but the GPU may be missing a certain hardware component to allow for true GPU-accelerated Flash. It would explain part of the cheaper price.
I dont care how good it is, I will never in LIFE buy any LG phone i dont care how fast or sleek it is I just wont.....what.....I have my reasons lol. HTC for the win or samsung. That is all.
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I dont care how good it is, I will never in LIFE buy any LG phone i dont care how fast or sleek it is I just wont.....what.....I have my reasons lol. HTC for the win or samsung. That is all.
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Agreed!
Haha, I agree on the HTC front - they know how to make a sweet phone, but have you seen the garbage that is the Samsung Intercept and Samsung Transform? Complete junk. The only I had two Samsung phones in my life - some old silver flip phone, and the A900 (best flip phone ever!), but as far as I can tell the only quality phone they make now is the Epic (and variants).
Samsung Intercept and Samsung Transform?
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And Samsung Moment all use the same processor and have an OpenGL ready chipset and no OpenGL drivers. This makes the phones crap. The Intercept is also EVDO Rev.0 which I believe fixed the radio lock bug that plagued the Moment. The transform is Rev.A (without the radio lock) but the same attrocious OpenGL performance. Samsung has completely failed at producing decent mid and low range android devices. it's remarkable.
thats why sprint needs a middle of the ground high performer. like the htc incredible.. even though i hate verizon.. This phone has really impressed me so far..
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thats why sprint needs a middle of the ground high performer. like the htc incredible.. even though i hate verizon.. This phone has really impressed me so far..
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Forget middle of the road, I want a beastly dual core 4g monster!
A Sprint branded Desire Z/G2 would be really, really nice. I think Cyanogen said the G2 totally blows away his previous N1.
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A Sprint branded Desire Z/G2 would be really, really nice. I think Cyanogen said the G2 totally blows away his previous N1.
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Yeah, that with dual core!!!
Hero also haas a "dual core" modem/app processor. Technically the dual core devices that ate soon to got are tri core
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Idiot's Guide to Nexus S and EVO3D - For Idiots

Excited by the announcement of the new Sprint phones?
Not sure which one to get?
Here's a user-friendly guide in layman's English to help you decide between the two.
I originally posted this (here) on the EVO General forum, but I'm deciding to reach out the Epic community.
If you see anything incorrect or missing, please let me know!
I'll start with the Nexus S 4G
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Will receive upgrades first
Will likely run Icecream (HC reworked for phones)
AOSP
No bloatware, and no Sprint apps
Hardware:
1GHz Hummingbird Processor
512MB RAM
4" Super AMOLED screen
16gb internal storage
NO MicroSD card slot
NFC Capability
5MP rear camera
VGA Front camera
1500 mAh Li-ion battery
GPU rated as good, if not slightly better than EVO3D's Adreno 220**
Unique Contour display*
*The contour display can best be seen here. Essentially, the display curves slightly at the ends and reviews have reported it feeling nice against your face. Aside from the feel, the SAMOLED display grants more vivid colors, more luminance, and more contrast, making text easy to read at most sizes.
**Which means the Nexus S will be able to display graphics on a similar caliber of the EVO3D, which is much higher than the EVO.
Layman's terms? Have you noticed how bad the N64 Emulator is on the EVO? It should run beautifully on the Nexus S, and even better on the EVO3D.
Release date: "Spring" 2011
Price: $199 on contract
Form:
An important spec of phones to some users is also their outside form. Here's what we've got on the Nexus
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Size and weight:
63mm x 123.9mm x 10.88mm
129g
4" contour display
Feel: CNET and user reviews say it feels light, and the material feels ´lighter´without metal parts.
This will make it feel more airy, smaller, and less bulky than the current EVO, which is very similar to the EVO3D
Users have reported a 'cheapy' plastic feel to the Nexus S, similar to the Epic. Other than that, there's no decision one way or another if that could be an issue when dropping the phone.
Advice? Don't drop your phone, no matter which model. Or buy a case of some sort.
Summary:
If you end up selling your EVO for $200 (easily done), you'll be able to upgrade to this phone for free. Why would you do that? Well, it's free, and it's a hardware and, eventually, a software upgrade from the EVO. While it boasts almost the same specs as the EVO, the processor is newer and the screen displays more colors with more vibrance.
Currently, the TMO Nexus S has benchmarks that run circles around the EVO and battery life that has been reported to last ~20 hours off-charger. Sound good to you? Same to me.
The phone will definitely last you through 2011, and likely a good chunk, if not all, of 2012. I anticipate it will also be receiving Android versions 2.4 and 3.1 (If that's Ice Cream), which will be more than capable of running on this phone, even if Quad-Core phones are released and run it as well.
Aside from the hardware, the software will be top-notch. You'll receive the latest Android software updates as soon as they're released, and the dev community should be buzzing on this phone, considering its AOSP nature.
Who is this phone good for?
Economically-minded users who want a boost from their current EVO and/or want a great developing experience. If the latest and greatest Google software is your thing, this phone is for you. Keep in mind that Nexus S already runs the Honeycomb SDKs and it will be a breeze to port the AOSP Honeycomb to the Nexus S once the source is released. Further more, AOSP will finally be developing code for WiMax chips, which will help ROMs like CM in incorporating WiMax. You'll also get WiMax on CM8 (When released) first, most likely.
Additional:
Miss having an LED notification light?
Here's your solution: BLN (Back Light Notifications)
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-s-receives-bln-notifications-thanks-xda
Intro:
"How do you follow up one of the most popular, most successful, biggest and fastest phones of 2010? In the case of the recently announced Sprint HTC EVO 3D, you give it a higher resolution screen, 3D recording and playback capability, and you open up a whole new world of user generated content. Oh, and you make it even faster and more powerful."
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EVO 3D
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Includes Sense 2.0 (?)
Includes Sprint Software
Hardware:
1.2 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon dual-core processor
1GB RAM (Which can be expanded* into the External Storage, giving you up to 5GB RAM, which diminishes as you fill internal storage, down to a minimum of 1GB)
1GB Internal Storage (Previous rumors stated 4GB. This still isn't clear or confirmed at all either way.)
4.3" 3D qHD Display with a resolution of 960x540
Expandable memory: 8GB microSD card included: supports up to 32GB
Dual 5 MP cameras used to capture 3D images and videos
1.3MP front-facing camera
1730 mAh Li-ion battery
HDMI port
No kickstand... Devastating, I guess?
*Much like a page file on a PC This has also been pointed out as a rumor, and is MOST LIKELY NOT TRUE
Form:
The EVO3D is similar in look and shape to the EVO. Here's what we've got
Size and Weight:
126mm x 65mm x 12.05mm (4.96" x 2.56" x 0.47")
170 grams (6.0 ounces) with the battery
Feel:
Taken from Engadget's hands-on review:
"As we'd mentioned in our hands-on, we immediately noticed that the EVO 3D didn't feel particularly heavy or bulky in the hand; in fact, we would've guessed that it was a bit lighter than the 4G. Well, turns out they're almost exactly the same weight -- holding the two one right after the other, we couldn't detect a difference.
As for dimensions, the 4G is actually wider -- the 3D's quite a bit more manageable when you're holding it, especially if you don't have giant paws -- and they're right around the same thickness."
Price: unknown
Release date: "Summer" 2011 (June)
Summary:
If you want the latest Sprint power-phone with latest industry hardware and technology - You won't be disappointed. While there are mixed reviews and feelings about the 3D feature of the phone, it seems that 3D is completely optional and is simply an added bonus for buying this already great phone.
Battery life is undetermined right now. While it boasts an industry-leading 1730 mAh Li-ion battery and the processor is some times number more efficient than the current EVO, people speculate it to have as much batter life as the current EVO.
In short: Like your EVOs now, this phone will be fast, bold, and furious, taken to a new extreme.
EDIT: Since the question has been asked on the forums, I've done a little bit of research:
How will the EVO 3D's display hold up against iPhone 4's?
To answer it shortly, the EVO 3D has a slightly lower resolution (960x540) than the iPhone 4 (960x640). Being that the EVO3D has a larger screen and a lower resolution, this means that the PPI (pixels per inch) will be lower, resulting in a slightly less sharp display.
Who is this phone good for?
Power-users who want only the best for themselves. Want to play the latest 3D graphics-intensive games on your phone? EVO3D is for you (please don't mistake 3D graphics for 3D images)
If you buy into the 3D thing, you'll also be able to shoot and view photos and videos in 3D.
This phone has power, screen size, and speed that make it worthwhile to keep far into the future.
[reserved for side-by-side comparison and other things!]
dirkyd3rk said:
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thanks!
IMPORTANT INFO REGARDING SPRINT:
If you didn't already know this, Sprint is changing the way they do their premier customer bonuses.
Basically, they've split premier bonuses into two categories: Silver and Gold
You qualify for Silver status if:
Your monthly base plan is between $69.99 and $89.98 for a SINGLE LINE or between $99.99 and $169.98 for SHARED PLANS.
Silver has the standard 2-year upgrades
You qualify for Gold status if:
Your monthly base plan is $89.99 or more for a single line, or $169.99 or more for shared plans.
OR
If you've been a Sprint customer for 10 or more years
GOLD PREMIER has the one-year upgrade eligibility on the primary line
If you are a student and already on Sprint or planning to switch
Check out this thread regarding a 23% online discount for students.
If you are not a Sprint customer and are thinking of switching over, here's a promotion for you
http://www.samacharexpress.com/2011/03/sprint-offers-150-50-to-wireless-defectors/
They offer $150 for you to switch from them, if you buy a smart phone. Pretty nice deal!
Deal running through 4/16, but call Sprint to check.
awesome thread...anyway to add the galaxy sII on this list to compare?
Is that a Sprint phone?
I wish the Nexus was coming out sooner. I just talked my wife into ET her contract with T-Mo and getting a Nexus when its released.
Price of Evo3d off contract? I got $550 in the bank as a reserve for it right now with my Epic and Evo to sell to cover the cost after paying for it. Think it will cost more than $550 without contract? My gold status doesn't give me upgrade options till September and that is no good.
the only way i will buy the evo3d is if the screen quality is better then the evo..im so in love with the super amoled for its blacks and colors that im afraid to go away from the galaxy 2
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If your asking about the nexus s than yes. Its literally identical in every way except slightly thicker but from what Ive read from multiple previews, its not really noticable to the naked eye. Its a little thicker due to the CDMA radio and WiMAX radio. Heres some pics comparing the two. (T-mo vs Sprint)
http://androidcommunity.com/sprint-nexus-s-4g-spy-shots-exclusive-20110321/
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If your asking about the nexus s than yes. Its literally identical in every way except slightly thicker but from what Ive read from multiple previews, its not really noticable to the naked eye. Its a little thicker due to the CDMA radio and WiMAX radio. Heres some pics comparing the two. (T-mo vs Sprint)
http://androidcommunity.com/sprint-nexus-s-4g-spy-shots-exclusive-20110321/
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No... he was asking about the SGS II that someone mentioned.
It hasn't been announced to be on Sprint yet, but it's assumed it will be after the way the first SGS panned out.
Hope so, Definitely getting the SGSII if hits sprint.
Both sound awesome, but I can't ditch the Super Amoled screen! And I want to get my money's worth for my Epic, so switching over so soon for a somewhat "old" Nexus S is out of the question for me. But count me in for a Galaxy S II!
i dont feel either of those phones are worth the upgrade over my current evo... i have my eyes set on the gsII! As long as Sprint leaves out the physical keyboard.
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i dont feel either of those phones are worth the upgrade over my current evo... i have my eyes set on the gsII! As long as Sprint leaves out the physical keyboard.
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That's the thing... they're not meant to be an upgrade really, more of a side-grade.
I like the idea of the Nexus S as an alternative to the Epic.... can't really say one way or another that one is better. They're the same damn thing at heart.
Which is exactly why I want one...
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the only way i will buy the evo3d is if the screen quality is better then the evo..im so in love with the super amoled for its blacks and colors that im afraid to go away from the galaxy 2
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Go to the Verizon store to play with a display thunderbolt. Go on the YouTube app and then search hd video sample choose a video and do the same with your epic. The thunderbolt looks damn good.
Now imagine that with a display that has even better quality than the thunderbolts with a HIGHER resolution. That's what the evo 3d will have. 100x better than evo 1
I'm glad to see this thread is taking off here! I'd be glad to add info on the SGSII as soon as I have some info to post!
I could swear I read that SGSII is coming to Sprint without a physical keyboard.
I was searching google and now can't find any evidence of this anywhere.
Does anyone else have any information on this?
I know this.might not be on topic but since we are talking about HTC I thought id bring it up. What's up with HTC making the thunderbolt so locked down. They signed bootloader, kernel and put the security on there? Sounds like a Motorola thing. I'm not getting that evo3d if they do that **** to hysterical phone. What do u all think?
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I know this.might not be on topic but since we are talking about HTC I thought id bring it up. What's up with HTC making the thunderbolt so locked down. They signed bootloader, kernel and put the security on there? Sounds like a Motorola thing. I'm not getting that evo3d if they do that **** to hysterical phone. What do u all think?
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I agree. The whole point of the Android OS was to allow the end-user and developers the ability to modify and create what they want (for the most part). It was a slap in Apple's face. But with manufacturers starting to lock down the experience (as Apple does), I fear Android will suffer. Google should not allow this from the manufacturers as they are tearing down the Android/Google model.
But, money talks and big business always beats the consumer.
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I could swear I read that SGSII is coming to Sprint without a physical keyboard.
I was searching google and now can't find any evidence of this anywhere.
Does anyone else have any information on this?
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i think i read someyhong bout that also, but cant remember where...anyway...i leaning towards the evo 3d but i think i will wait a little longer to see if more phones come out later on...either way i wanna ditch the physical keyboard...but a display like the epic's is a must have!
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[Q] Quick question to you all =)

I've been filled with curiosity for a few weeks to see if any other person thinks the same way I do about the HTC G2. I don't know if any of you have noticed but the G Series phones have been like milestones on the android history the G1 started all and the G2 literary set a a milestone most app or games run from the G2 + no older phones. The G-Series has always just like the Nexus been the most future proof phones and HTC has proven to be one of the most reliable phone manufactures when it comes to top quality phones and updates. Anyways I don't know you guys but i would actually love to see a G3 but the question is what would you guys like to see in it seriously i wouldn't like the G3 to be like the G2 which came out with a single core CPU the same moment dual core CPUs came out it was kind of disappointing. So here successor are the specs that the G3 in my point of view should have to be really a true successor to the G-Series:
-Quad-Core CPU with atleast 1.5 to 2.0 Ghz (I dont know you guys but i would actually like to see once the quad core cpus come out to have a dedicated core go to the Phone part of android why? well whats the point of having a smart phone if when you need to make a call you phone or dialer crashes it would be awesome to have an entire core dedicated to the phone its all im saying.)
-Atleast 1GB of RAM
-5 Mega pixel to 8 Mega Pixel Back Cam with flash or dual flash
-Corning Glass Screen (I can't stress this enough lol its been in the G1 and G2 and its proven to extend the life of you phone heck my G1 still looks like taken right out of the box)
-Atleast 4GB of internal memory sure 8 or 16GB wont hurt but as a minimum 4GB and not like the G2 that we could only access 1.4Gb of the 4GB.
-HDMI, Front cam(Not really caring about this but it would be a nice extra), A kick stand( Why? well i would like to be able to use Bluetooth keyboard or atleast be able to see a movie without having to hold the phone.)
-Some Physical Buttons like the g1 had or atleast keep the trackball or trackpad helps a lot to some people.
-Built in keyboard why? simple G-Series has always had it and even if it adds a bit of bulk it keeps the G phones apart from the other phones.
-Battery well atleast 1,500mAh 1,300mAh isnt enough for anyone even those who arent power users 1,500 or 1,800 would help a lot.
-Vanilla Android the Google experience is just awesome =)
-HTC has to make it please ... not LG or any other company.
-Atleast a 4.0 inch screen nothing below 4.0 but nothing above 4.7 either if you wanted something so big you buy a tablet right?
-Hopefully the ports will have little door so dust wont get in them.(Atleast the ports that we dont use often, once again not a must but it would be awesome to have the option i guess)
-Ice cream Sandwich out of the box lol sure why not jejeje =P
I know this is a very dream like phone but... well the G-Series has always had top specs when they come out this is mostly the reason why the keep up to date for so long so yeah XD so what do you guys think?
I am in total agreement.
I just want the keyboard to be more like the G1 slideout and with dedicated numbers row.
I also want the volume rocker to be flush with the surface because I am tired of it getting pressed by mistake.
big plus on the corning glass screen..couldn't agree more.
we may have to wait a couple years for this tho... I'm ready for it now but I am dedicated to the G series.
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That phone would be the dogs bawz
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Oh yeah i dont expect this to come out yet but hey i just don't want the G-Series to die its all and if it continues to keep its awesome features and keep coming out the same way it did before an awesome High-end phone which is totally worth every penny.
Why are there so few hardware keyboard phones out there? , my contract is up but there is no g2 replacement that i can see,
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Well most companies want to go after the iPhone kind of look and go super thin and they exclude the keyboard out of most of the phones they make. The thing they dont notice is that android phones dont have to look like an iPhone heck one of the best things of having a keyboard and trackpad in a phone is that if you touch screen gets damaged and doesnt recognize your finger you can use the trackpad to move aroudn the interface and the keyboard to type so you can still use your phone in a worst case scenario unlike all the other phones. But hey the HTC G2 still is on the top of the best android phones since with a few mods you can make it as fast as the actual phones. we just have to see what happens with phones after quad core release and ice cream sandwich.
as a deaf android user...I really don't have much choice but to go after the keyboarder phones. if the G3 has no keyboard ill just die !)
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I think we will see a really nice G3. The G1 was perfect for its time as far as I can see. What bugs me is that while there is nothing that holds a candle to a modded G2... why wasn't it closer to perfect for its time? I haven't had such a problem with other products that I knew we're the best out there. Cars, girls, video games, flatscreens, etc. I hope google steps there game up. Letting tmobile or htc mess things up is cool. I like money too, but seems like a bad long term business plan.
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after the DZ being my first hw kb android device, i can safely say i will never ever go back to a touch screen only experience. eff that! this phone is also my first device with a gorilla glass screen, previous phone was a sony x10 (huge pos) and i am addicted to the gorilla glass' smoothness and toughness.
what i would LOVE to see in the G3:
4" or less size screen...more screen means more battery..
dual core cpu...again..should be less batt intensive than a quad core, and its a mobile device...we shouldnt need pc power hungry phones..optimize the code!
i love the kb the way it is, but eff the z-hinge. id rather a slide out like the milestone...something that feels and IS built tough
1gig + ram
4gig storage as you said is fine by me, i dont even use half of the g2's space lol.
battery is the wow factor, if they slammed a sweet 2000mah battery in it, charged top dollar for the device, id buy it. ill take an awesome battery and pretty good spec phone anyday over a top dollar cutting edge device i can only use for 6 hours lol.
thats my wish..id also like to keep trackpad, make the phone a tad sexier...maybe a nice all black finish with polished steel or chrome accents. the g2 is nice cept for the grey rubberized bits that discolor...if it was black im sure itd look a bit better..
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i dont even count the G2X as a succesor of the g2
single core, no keyboard, froyo, and LG
wtf type of succesor is that?
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i dont even count the G2X as a succesor of the g2
single core, no keyboard, froyo, and LG
wtf type of succesor is that?
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lol god me either, successor cant be an lg. plus the g2x sux donkey dong compared to dz/g2!
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Well ptesmoke the only reason i would like quad instead of dual is if one of the cores is phone dedicated that way we have 1 core for phone utilities and the other 3, 2 for processing date and 1 extra in case we need it. Of course if we cant get it to have a dedicated core to the OS or atleast the phone then sure ill go with a dual core but hey quad doesnt necesarly mean more bat.
To all the others yeah thats why i didnt mention the G2x at all in the post the only real improvement over the g2 was 8mp cam and front facing cam apart from that everything else ruined the phone instead of improving it.
I want a keyboard that slides in two directions.
First direction is the same as G1 and G2, down in landscape mode to revile the full qwerty-ness.
And another direction, slides down in portrait mode to revile a number pad. So some of the keys have a different function depending on which direction the keypad has been slid out.
Also, I'd like the keyboard to be blue tooth enabled so I can use it on other devices (while the G3 is sleeping).
sounds awesome, but 4 inch is a bit too big for me. i like it to stay as a phone. i mean i tried a tablet but it didnt replace my 13.3inch laptop.
all specs are going towards like a tablet hence i mentioned it.
Lol now that htc has beats audio it would be fun to also see it in a g3 like phone and well guys look i really love the 3.7 to 4.1 inch screen all im saying is that it shouldnt get smaller or to big anything between those 2 measurements im fine with and i know many of you are 2 besides if htc has proven something to us is that they have been able to make phones with keyboard and still reduce the weight everytime more and more so even if the phone gets a 4.0 inch screen it will weight less and still feel awesome. also i rather have a quad core than a dual core because when your not using all the core they usually go to idle and stop killing your battery and having 4 cores would allow us to stay in the top phones far more time than a dual core would sure we dont need them now but what about later on? i mean i rather have power and not use it than need it and not have it and end up overclocking the phone to high and killing it its all im saying =D but lol i wish we could know if htc will ever release they keep doing mytouch series which has gone down hill lately on most of them and the G series which has sold well they are letting it die XD.... i wonder what phone would be a good sustitution for the g2 if htc doesnt release a g3? i wonder if we should go with motorola since google owns it now maybe they will have better things and support? not sure what you guys think?
If HTC wants to see how to build the best hardware keyboard ever put on a cell phone, they need only look at their own HTC TouchPro2
what a shame the best keyboard of all time is stuck on a silly WinMo 6.1 phone!
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Wow that keyboard really looks awesome I didn't know about that phone jejejeje a phone with that kind of keyboard would truly be cool =D

Upcoming Incredible 4g model...

As, I approach my upgrade time. I am pondering my options... and wondering what others are thinking.
When I first read about this phone model (the upcoming Incredible 4g), I was not not especially impressed. But with more leaked info, I wonder is this actually my ideal (or very near ideal) phone.
1. It supposedly will have the S4 Krait processor. This is an upgrade over anything currently on Verizon. I didn't realize that it was going to get this processor. If it doesn't have this processor, then I really don't have any interest. I thought the Incredible 4g was just a smaller Rezound. I was wrong. This processor is an improvement over phones like the Rezound and G Nexus.
2. I have not liked the idea of the newer phones eliminating the SD card. This phone will have a SD card slot... plus 8 gigs internal.
3. It will have a removable battery, another thing that myself and many others have not liked about other new models coming out. I have managed to get excellent life out of my stock Dinc1 battery... but I've always been happy to know that there are bigger replacements available if I wanted them... or if the stock battery were to get weak with age.
4. I am torn by the manufacturers making screens bigger and bigger on phones (and with greater and greater numbers of pixels to control and illuminate). Those screens sure look nice... but I'm not crazy about how much power they use. The Incredible 4g has a qHD 4" screen, so it should look nice enough, and not use that much juice (compared to the 720p phones with 4.7" screens). Also importantly to me, it will be comfortable to stick in my pockets. I just don't watch movies or TV shows on my phone. Yeah, I've done it, just to do it. But, I've got more comfortable options... like our couch and plasma TV (or even our computers).
5. Integrated LTE on the chip? 4g speeds... less battery usage than current 4g phones... thaz awesome...
6. 1gig RAM... same as everything else out there...
7. Nice enough camera (same as ONE series)... Beats (meh whatever)... etc...
8. I do play games, to kill time on my phone, but I often tend to prefer the casual type puzzle games. High performance gaming isn't especially important to me, but still this phone should be nicely capable of playing most games very well.
I know this phone does not follow the "slim and sexy" trend that is happening in phone fashion. I just wonder if I am the only weirdo "anti-fashion" person out there. Plus it looks to be reasonably priced. Anybody else think this phone looks preferable than the other new options coming?
And most importantly... anybody think this phone will get good developer support? Just wondering how others view this phone...
I also approach my upgrade time (I think its in June) and as it approaches I'm paying more attention to what's out there. This new incredible seems to hit all the right spots. The only thing I wish it had wad a 720p screen. Qhd certainly isn't a deal breaker though.
I'm eagerly awaiting the announcement of the Incredible 4G. However I'm also waiting to see what the Galaxy S3 has to offer. I may end up waiting a little longer for that. I dont mind morw waiting as I love my incredible and its simply the best phone I've ever owned.
If my incredible broke today and I was offered an early upgrade id probably opt for a Razr Maxx.
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Div033 said:
I also approach my upgrade time (I think its in June) and as it approaches I'm paying more attention to what's out there. This new incredible seems to hit all the right spots. The only thing I wish it had wad a 720p screen. Qhd certainly isn't a deal breaker though.
I'm eagerly awaiting the announcement of the Incredible 4G. However I'm also waiting to see what the Galaxy S3 has to offer. I may end up waiting a little longer for that. I dont mind morw waiting as I love my incredible and its simply the best phone I've ever owned.
If my incredible broke today and I was offered an early upgrade id probably opt for a Razr Maxx.
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Does the early upgrade cost more ?
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Does the early upgrade cost more ?
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Can't tell ya. I've never been offered one!
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Does the early upgrade cost more ?
not exactly. early upgrade is an incentive.
verizon emailed me an early upgrade offer for 50 bucks off any new phone last week...
and today snail mailed me an offer for 100 dollars off.
they just want you contracting another 2 years... thats where the real money is at.
My upgrade was up the first of April, and I watched it go by. Honestly, for what I really do with the phone it just didn't make sense to drop the coin on something new that would meet or exceed some of my expectations but let me down in others.
One of the biggest drawbacks to most of these phones coming out (IMO....) is the size of em. Damn, if I wanted an Ipad, I'd buy the dang thing.... These new phones look beautiful but having to wear a hubcap around my waist because it won't fit in my pockets anymore, I just don't dig.
I have been so pleased with the first gen INC that when I heard the INC 4g was coming out, and the screen size, man, I said that's the ticket, faster, and still good size, removable batt, sd card, I'm in, I'm all in......
You raise a very good argument on the OP. The only thing I would need is a guarantee that Devs will get CM9 running on it. My Dinc right now is perfect with CM9.
Not sure how many Inc devs can or will get the Inc 4g due to all getting the rezound. And there's no guarantee of anything before its done. Most likely it will get cm9 but don't quote me on that.
And ics, while OK on the Inc is far from perfect. Camcorder and video don't work 100% on cm9. One of the reasons I got the nexus is to have the best initial support with ICS working smooth without any complex porting.
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I'm glad to see some people with something positive to say about this phone. There has been a lot of bad reaction out there for what ever reason. I suspect its people just not understanding about the processor. I've got an upgrade on the 25th, and this thing is supposed to hit the 26th. I'm pretty excited.
I'll probably use it the first month pretty much stock, and then start branching out as things become available. Also looking forward to CM9. I may keep a recovery around to play with and one for actual use with 100% function. If it doesn't come with a 32 gb class 10 sd card, that will be my first upgrade to it. Hoping they pack a nice battery in it.
I think as a OneS variant, there won't be too much difficulty finding devs to take interest.
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I'm glad to see some people with something positive to say about this phone. There has been a lot of bad reaction out there for what ever reason. I suspect its people just not understanding about the processor. I've got an upgrade on the 25th, and this thing is supposed to hit the 26th. I'm pretty excited.
I'll probably use it the first month pretty much stock, and then start branching out as things become available. Also looking forward to CM9. I may keep a recovery around to play with and one for actual use with 100% function. If it doesn't come with a 32 gb class 10 sd card, that will be my first upgrade to it. Hoping they pack a nice battery in it.
I think as a OneS variant, there won't be too much difficulty finding devs to take interest.
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Well we have 4 days til launch, almost 3, and we've received no word of demo units coming in. So unless they come in tomorrow, I'm doubting that April 26th launch. Perhaps that's when the demo units are coming in? I believe the leaked documents did say "Device workshop" on April 26th.(Although I'm not all too sure what that is). It definitely should be coming within the next two weeks if it misses that release date though.
This phone will certainly be the perfect phone for me when it comes out, if the rumored specs are true. Really hoping this phone gets good dev support too.
We've been discussing the Incredible 4G for a while over in this thread, and I'll repeat my overall opinion here: When this phone comes out it will be hands-down the best phone available on Verizon. All of the websites out there that call it mid-range are out of their minds.
Here are some thoughts I have on some of the OP's points:
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I thought the Incredible 4g was just a smaller Rezound. I was wrong. This processor is an improvement over phones like the Rezound and G Nexus.
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The processor is not the only improvement over the Rezound... there are so many more. The only reason people compare this phone to the Rezound is the aesthetic similarity. That's really the only thing these two phones have in common.
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It will have a removable battery
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That is likely, but not a given. Early reports were able to 100% confirm some things like "yes, it has a microSD slot." Those reports didn't come right out and say that the battery is removable though. But, they did say that the backplates are interchangeable, which is a good indication that we'll have battery access
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Nice enough camera (same as ONE series)
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The camera on the One series (and very very likely this phone too) is much better than "Nice enough". It is amazing. Engadget called the One S "the best Android cameraphone we've seen yet"
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I know this phone does not follow the "slim and sexy" trend that is happening in phone fashion.
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It certainly wont be sexy... it's an Incredible. Have you seen these things?
That said, it will be slim and light. Probably not as much as the One S (because this one needs LTE and the One S probably has a little more room to stuff things because of the bigger screen), but the initial reports are that it is very thin and light.
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Anybody else think this phone looks preferable than the other new options coming?
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On Verizon, absolutely. There is nothing better. That is, as long as you are cool with the smaller screen size
The only reason not to get it is the screen size... A lot of people have been begging for a high-end 4" phone, and now they finally have one. That said, some people just "need" those mammoth 4.5+" screens. If you're one of the latter, then this phone is probably not the best bet.
For everyone else though, this will be the best phone you can get when it comes out... and the price is looking like it will cost less than the original incredible did at release, which is a bonus
the qHD resolution
Specs were leaked today on the droiddoes website. Phone will cost $299 with a contract.
1.2GHz dual-core processor
1GB RAM
Sense 4.0
4-inch Super LCD display at qHD resolution
Storage: 8 gigabytes internal, up to 32GB microSD card
Beats Audio
Pandora
Slacker Radio
8-megapixel rear-facing camera with flash
VGA front-facing camera
4G LTE hotspot
4-inch display
Size: 2.4 x 4.8 x 0.46 inchces
Weight: 4.66 ounces
Battery: 1700 mAh
Any word if the processor is the s4? I hate they were so vague with it
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Any word if the processor is the s4? I hate they were so vague with it
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It has to. There's no way they would release it without the S4 (at least, not for more than like 50 bucks)
Sidenote: I'm a bit bummed by the price. I never really believed the "$100 or $150" rumors, but I was hoping that Verizon would stop the $299 madness and go back to $199 that used to be the standard (and is becoming the standard again on other carriers... look at the new Evo for example)
Althought... the site was never really intended to go live... so maybe they just copied a template and hadn't actually finished with it... i.e. hadn't fixed the price yet.
And for anyone who wants to see the leak itsmefu was talking about...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/23/htc-droid-incredible-4g-lte/
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http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-droid-incredible-4g-lte-outed-droiddoes-site
I hope that price is wrong like you said, I won't pay $330 for that phone. I would rather wait a while and get it a lot cheaper.
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It has to. There's no way they would release it without the S4 (at least, not for more than like 50 bucks)
Sidenote: I'm a bit bummed by the price. I never really believed the "$100 or $150" rumors, but I was hoping that Verizon would stop the $299 madness and go back to $199 that used to be the standard (and is becoming the standard again on other carriers... look at the new Evo for example)
Althought... the site was never really intended to go live... so maybe they just copied a template and hadn't actually finished with it... i.e. hadn't fixed the price yet.
And for anyone who wants to see the leak itsmefu was talking about...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/23/htc-droid-incredible-4g-lte/
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Despite that leaked page using the Moto template with all the "Droid" branding, I was happy to see that other sources indicate HTC/Verizon have dropped the "Droid" name from the new Inc
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Despite that leaked page using the Moto template with all the "Droid" branding, I was happy to see that other sources indicate HTC/Verizon have dropped the "Droid" name from the new Inc
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What other sources?
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What other sources?
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I remember reading something yesterday but on searching again it appears they were basing that off of photos of device, and my "Droid" Inc doesn't actually have that name anywhere on it either. So nevermind that rumor for now. This link has the photos without the baseless speculation
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I remember reading something yesterday but on searching again it appears they were basing that off of photos of device, and my "Droid" Inc doesn't actually have that name anywhere on it either. So nevermind that rumor for now. This link has the photos without the baseless speculation
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Oh, lol. Yea, I don't think even the Motoroloas actually put "Droid" on the device.
Thanks for the additional info demarcmj. I certainly am not any authority on this phone. If anything I said was untrue, it was unintentional. Mostly I was expressing my opinions about the phone specs, just for myself, and they way I would use it.
I'm glad you shared your thoughts and could bring better detailed info.
For example: The comment about the "nice enough" camera was a little tongue in cheek. It is an excellent camera, for a phone camera. I've got other gear for taking pictures. For me, the camera on my Dinc1 is "nice enough". I really only use it for scanning QR codes.
I'm pretty bummed about the $299 price tag, too. The One X is on ATT for $199.
The Incredible 4g (with its non-HD screen) is not going to sell many units at $299. That is craziness, Verizon.

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