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As, I approach my upgrade time. I am pondering my options... and wondering what others are thinking.
When I first read about this phone model (the upcoming Incredible 4g), I was not not especially impressed. But with more leaked info, I wonder is this actually my ideal (or very near ideal) phone.
1. It supposedly will have the S4 Krait processor. This is an upgrade over anything currently on Verizon. I didn't realize that it was going to get this processor. If it doesn't have this processor, then I really don't have any interest. I thought the Incredible 4g was just a smaller Rezound. I was wrong. This processor is an improvement over phones like the Rezound and G Nexus.
2. I have not liked the idea of the newer phones eliminating the SD card. This phone will have a SD card slot... plus 8 gigs internal.
3. It will have a removable battery, another thing that myself and many others have not liked about other new models coming out. I have managed to get excellent life out of my stock Dinc1 battery... but I've always been happy to know that there are bigger replacements available if I wanted them... or if the stock battery were to get weak with age.
4. I am torn by the manufacturers making screens bigger and bigger on phones (and with greater and greater numbers of pixels to control and illuminate). Those screens sure look nice... but I'm not crazy about how much power they use. The Incredible 4g has a qHD 4" screen, so it should look nice enough, and not use that much juice (compared to the 720p phones with 4.7" screens). Also importantly to me, it will be comfortable to stick in my pockets. I just don't watch movies or TV shows on my phone. Yeah, I've done it, just to do it. But, I've got more comfortable options... like our couch and plasma TV (or even our computers).
5. Integrated LTE on the chip? 4g speeds... less battery usage than current 4g phones... thaz awesome...
6. 1gig RAM... same as everything else out there...
7. Nice enough camera (same as ONE series)... Beats (meh whatever)... etc...
8. I do play games, to kill time on my phone, but I often tend to prefer the casual type puzzle games. High performance gaming isn't especially important to me, but still this phone should be nicely capable of playing most games very well.
I know this phone does not follow the "slim and sexy" trend that is happening in phone fashion. I just wonder if I am the only weirdo "anti-fashion" person out there. Plus it looks to be reasonably priced. Anybody else think this phone looks preferable than the other new options coming?
And most importantly... anybody think this phone will get good developer support? Just wondering how others view this phone...

I also approach my upgrade time (I think its in June) and as it approaches I'm paying more attention to what's out there. This new incredible seems to hit all the right spots. The only thing I wish it had wad a 720p screen. Qhd certainly isn't a deal breaker though.
I'm eagerly awaiting the announcement of the Incredible 4G. However I'm also waiting to see what the Galaxy S3 has to offer. I may end up waiting a little longer for that. I dont mind morw waiting as I love my incredible and its simply the best phone I've ever owned.
If my incredible broke today and I was offered an early upgrade id probably opt for a Razr Maxx.
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Div033 said:
I also approach my upgrade time (I think its in June) and as it approaches I'm paying more attention to what's out there. This new incredible seems to hit all the right spots. The only thing I wish it had wad a 720p screen. Qhd certainly isn't a deal breaker though.
I'm eagerly awaiting the announcement of the Incredible 4G. However I'm also waiting to see what the Galaxy S3 has to offer. I may end up waiting a little longer for that. I dont mind morw waiting as I love my incredible and its simply the best phone I've ever owned.
If my incredible broke today and I was offered an early upgrade id probably opt for a Razr Maxx.
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Does the early upgrade cost more ?
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
Does the early upgrade cost more ?
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Can't tell ya. I've never been offered one!
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Does the early upgrade cost more ?
not exactly. early upgrade is an incentive.
verizon emailed me an early upgrade offer for 50 bucks off any new phone last week...
and today snail mailed me an offer for 100 dollars off.
they just want you contracting another 2 years... thats where the real money is at.

My upgrade was up the first of April, and I watched it go by. Honestly, for what I really do with the phone it just didn't make sense to drop the coin on something new that would meet or exceed some of my expectations but let me down in others.
One of the biggest drawbacks to most of these phones coming out (IMO....) is the size of em. Damn, if I wanted an Ipad, I'd buy the dang thing.... These new phones look beautiful but having to wear a hubcap around my waist because it won't fit in my pockets anymore, I just don't dig.
I have been so pleased with the first gen INC that when I heard the INC 4g was coming out, and the screen size, man, I said that's the ticket, faster, and still good size, removable batt, sd card, I'm in, I'm all in......

You raise a very good argument on the OP. The only thing I would need is a guarantee that Devs will get CM9 running on it. My Dinc right now is perfect with CM9.

Not sure how many Inc devs can or will get the Inc 4g due to all getting the rezound. And there's no guarantee of anything before its done. Most likely it will get cm9 but don't quote me on that.
And ics, while OK on the Inc is far from perfect. Camcorder and video don't work 100% on cm9. One of the reasons I got the nexus is to have the best initial support with ICS working smooth without any complex porting.
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I'm glad to see some people with something positive to say about this phone. There has been a lot of bad reaction out there for what ever reason. I suspect its people just not understanding about the processor. I've got an upgrade on the 25th, and this thing is supposed to hit the 26th. I'm pretty excited.
I'll probably use it the first month pretty much stock, and then start branching out as things become available. Also looking forward to CM9. I may keep a recovery around to play with and one for actual use with 100% function. If it doesn't come with a 32 gb class 10 sd card, that will be my first upgrade to it. Hoping they pack a nice battery in it.
I think as a OneS variant, there won't be too much difficulty finding devs to take interest.

dezignstuff said:
I'm glad to see some people with something positive to say about this phone. There has been a lot of bad reaction out there for what ever reason. I suspect its people just not understanding about the processor. I've got an upgrade on the 25th, and this thing is supposed to hit the 26th. I'm pretty excited.
I'll probably use it the first month pretty much stock, and then start branching out as things become available. Also looking forward to CM9. I may keep a recovery around to play with and one for actual use with 100% function. If it doesn't come with a 32 gb class 10 sd card, that will be my first upgrade to it. Hoping they pack a nice battery in it.
I think as a OneS variant, there won't be too much difficulty finding devs to take interest.
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Well we have 4 days til launch, almost 3, and we've received no word of demo units coming in. So unless they come in tomorrow, I'm doubting that April 26th launch. Perhaps that's when the demo units are coming in? I believe the leaked documents did say "Device workshop" on April 26th.(Although I'm not all too sure what that is). It definitely should be coming within the next two weeks if it misses that release date though.
This phone will certainly be the perfect phone for me when it comes out, if the rumored specs are true. Really hoping this phone gets good dev support too.

We've been discussing the Incredible 4G for a while over in this thread, and I'll repeat my overall opinion here: When this phone comes out it will be hands-down the best phone available on Verizon. All of the websites out there that call it mid-range are out of their minds.
Here are some thoughts I have on some of the OP's points:
iowabeakster said:
I thought the Incredible 4g was just a smaller Rezound. I was wrong. This processor is an improvement over phones like the Rezound and G Nexus.
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The processor is not the only improvement over the Rezound... there are so many more. The only reason people compare this phone to the Rezound is the aesthetic similarity. That's really the only thing these two phones have in common.
iowabeakster said:
It will have a removable battery
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That is likely, but not a given. Early reports were able to 100% confirm some things like "yes, it has a microSD slot." Those reports didn't come right out and say that the battery is removable though. But, they did say that the backplates are interchangeable, which is a good indication that we'll have battery access
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Nice enough camera (same as ONE series)
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The camera on the One series (and very very likely this phone too) is much better than "Nice enough". It is amazing. Engadget called the One S "the best Android cameraphone we've seen yet"
iowabeakster said:
I know this phone does not follow the "slim and sexy" trend that is happening in phone fashion.
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It certainly wont be sexy... it's an Incredible. Have you seen these things?
That said, it will be slim and light. Probably not as much as the One S (because this one needs LTE and the One S probably has a little more room to stuff things because of the bigger screen), but the initial reports are that it is very thin and light.
iowabeakster said:
Anybody else think this phone looks preferable than the other new options coming?
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On Verizon, absolutely. There is nothing better. That is, as long as you are cool with the smaller screen size
The only reason not to get it is the screen size... A lot of people have been begging for a high-end 4" phone, and now they finally have one. That said, some people just "need" those mammoth 4.5+" screens. If you're one of the latter, then this phone is probably not the best bet.
For everyone else though, this will be the best phone you can get when it comes out... and the price is looking like it will cost less than the original incredible did at release, which is a bonus
the qHD resolution

Specs were leaked today on the droiddoes website. Phone will cost $299 with a contract.
1.2GHz dual-core processor
1GB RAM
Sense 4.0
4-inch Super LCD display at qHD resolution
Storage: 8 gigabytes internal, up to 32GB microSD card
Beats Audio
Pandora
Slacker Radio
8-megapixel rear-facing camera with flash
VGA front-facing camera
4G LTE hotspot
4-inch display
Size: 2.4 x 4.8 x 0.46 inchces
Weight: 4.66 ounces
Battery: 1700 mAh

Any word if the processor is the s4? I hate they were so vague with it
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mushat3k said:
Any word if the processor is the s4? I hate they were so vague with it
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It has to. There's no way they would release it without the S4 (at least, not for more than like 50 bucks)
Sidenote: I'm a bit bummed by the price. I never really believed the "$100 or $150" rumors, but I was hoping that Verizon would stop the $299 madness and go back to $199 that used to be the standard (and is becoming the standard again on other carriers... look at the new Evo for example)
Althought... the site was never really intended to go live... so maybe they just copied a template and hadn't actually finished with it... i.e. hadn't fixed the price yet.
And for anyone who wants to see the leak itsmefu was talking about...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/23/htc-droid-incredible-4g-lte/
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http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-droid-incredible-4g-lte-outed-droiddoes-site

I hope that price is wrong like you said, I won't pay $330 for that phone. I would rather wait a while and get it a lot cheaper.

demarcmj said:
It has to. There's no way they would release it without the S4 (at least, not for more than like 50 bucks)
Sidenote: I'm a bit bummed by the price. I never really believed the "$100 or $150" rumors, but I was hoping that Verizon would stop the $299 madness and go back to $199 that used to be the standard (and is becoming the standard again on other carriers... look at the new Evo for example)
Althought... the site was never really intended to go live... so maybe they just copied a template and hadn't actually finished with it... i.e. hadn't fixed the price yet.
And for anyone who wants to see the leak itsmefu was talking about...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/23/htc-droid-incredible-4g-lte/
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Despite that leaked page using the Moto template with all the "Droid" branding, I was happy to see that other sources indicate HTC/Verizon have dropped the "Droid" name from the new Inc

boomn said:
Despite that leaked page using the Moto template with all the "Droid" branding, I was happy to see that other sources indicate HTC/Verizon have dropped the "Droid" name from the new Inc
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What other sources?

demarcmj said:
What other sources?
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I remember reading something yesterday but on searching again it appears they were basing that off of photos of device, and my "Droid" Inc doesn't actually have that name anywhere on it either. So nevermind that rumor for now. This link has the photos without the baseless speculation

boomn said:
I remember reading something yesterday but on searching again it appears they were basing that off of photos of device, and my "Droid" Inc doesn't actually have that name anywhere on it either. So nevermind that rumor for now. This link has the photos without the baseless speculation
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Oh, lol. Yea, I don't think even the Motoroloas actually put "Droid" on the device.

Thanks for the additional info demarcmj. I certainly am not any authority on this phone. If anything I said was untrue, it was unintentional. Mostly I was expressing my opinions about the phone specs, just for myself, and they way I would use it.
I'm glad you shared your thoughts and could bring better detailed info.
For example: The comment about the "nice enough" camera was a little tongue in cheek. It is an excellent camera, for a phone camera. I've got other gear for taking pictures. For me, the camera on my Dinc1 is "nice enough". I really only use it for scanning QR codes.
I'm pretty bummed about the $299 price tag, too. The One X is on ATT for $199.
The Incredible 4g (with its non-HD screen) is not going to sell many units at $299. That is craziness, Verizon.

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According to boygeniusreport.com the HTC Vision, a rumored Android smartphone is in fact a variant of the Desire complete with a sliding FULL QWERTY keypad.
See original article here --->> http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/05/21/htc-vision-rumored-to-be-a-desire-with-qwerty-keypad/
I'm hopeful it comes to the U.S. as we need a direct competitor to the Verizon Droid phones that are confirmed out.
More importantly we need a truly amazing phone to finally move on from the HTC Dream/G1
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the desire has sense. The G1 is stock android. There is a world of difference between the two, i for one hate the look of sense. And that picture is a mockup lol not really wheat teh phone will lokk like

mejorguille said:
the desire has sense. The G1 is stock android. There is a world of difference between the two, i for one hate the look of sense. And that picture is a mockup lol not really wheat teh phone will lokk like
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Its an artist rendition, no one said that's how its going to look like. hahaha
For now its a rumored phone but many different sources are indicating the validity of the claim so more likely than not it will likely appear in the following months.
Most people have been waiting for a upgrade from the HTC Dream/G1 for a long while now.
Thanks for your comment but not everyone is going to agree with you.

mejorguille said:
the desire has sense. The G1 is stock android. There is a world of difference between the two, i for one hate the look of sense. And that picture is a mockup lol not really wheat teh phone will lokk like
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Found this in a few minutes, even if it does have "Sense" so you can easily turn it off
Just like you would with a custom Rom, I do this all the time if I choose to change the Launcher or Home Replacement. LOL
------>> http://www.androidguys.com/2009/10/22/how-to-turn-off-htc-sense/

Or you could root the phone and tell Sense to **** off. I for one can't wait for a Nexus-like device with a keyboard. Why didn't HTC make one sooner? They knew the G1 sold like hot cakes.

God, I've been dying a good HTC qwerty phone. I've been using my MT3G for near a year now, and have gotten pretty used to the virtual KB, but I gotta say I still miss my old G1's slide out KB

Its not technically a G1 sucessor IMO. The myTouch Slide is.

pziv2 said:
Its not technically a G1 sucessor IMO. The myTouch Slide is.
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Look closely at the Mytouch Slide specs, its a step back and is more last generation than Next Generation.
We need something that can compete with this:
--->> http://phones.verizonwireless.com/htc/incredible/

legend221 said:
Look closely at the Mytouch Slide specs, its a step back and is more last generation than Next Generation.
We need something that can compete with this:
--->> http://phones.verizonwireless.com/htc/incredible/
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i dont fully agree with that the specs are right on and better in some places than the motorolla droid so its not last generation at all. plus it looks fast and is getting the 2.2 update so i dont see how its last gen if its getting all the new hardware and has the same specs as one of the better selling phones

jriv said:
i dont fully agree with that the specs are right on and better in some places than the motorolla droid so its not last generation at all. plus it looks fast and is getting the 2.2 update so i dont see how its last gen if its getting all the new hardware and has the same specs as one of the better selling phones
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Mytouch Slide may look like a duck but it doesn't quack like a duck:
The 600MHz ARM processor is unacceptable vs the 1GHz processor the Vision would have, Droid Incredible has now.
Just like a computer the faster the processor the better the device.
T-Mobile needs to be cutting edge so it retains its customer base, everyone and their grandma wants to have an Android now
If they don't stay at it to offer the newest, most innovative android phones there are plenty of other companies that will.

legend221 said:
Mytouch Slide may look like a duck but it doesn't quack like a duck:
The 600MHz ARM processor is unacceptable vs the 1GHz processor the Vision would have, Droid Incredible has now.
Just like a computer the faster the processor the better the device.
T-Mobile needs to be cutting edge so it retains its customer base, everyone and their grandma wants to have an Android now
If they don't stay at it to offer the newest, most innovative android phones there are plenty of other companies that will.
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I fully agree. You can look at the mytouch slide and can see it was a step back in hardware from Nexus and a step back from the high end Android phones on Verizon / Sprint *Evo an Incredible* So I wont be wasting a 2 year agreement on the mytouch slide but will also wait for a 1ghz keyboard android phone.

legend221 said:
Mytouch Slide may look like a duck but it doesn't quack like a duck:
The 600MHz ARM processor is unacceptable vs the 1GHz processor the Vision would have, Droid Incredible has now.
Just like a computer the faster the processor the better the device.
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That is a very bold statement and totally flawed. One could conceivably shoehorn a 6-core opteron chip onto a phone and it would be wickedly fast and versatile, problem is that it would drain the battery dead in SECONDS. You really need to think about things for a bit -- why, if "faster is better" would intel be making such a killing off the ATOM chips? Why isn't anyone building phones with Intel's or AMD's fastest chips?
Because faster is NOT better! In a phone, EFFICIENT is better. The difficult part about building a phone is balancing the performance with the available BATTERY CAPACITY. You can make a wickedly fast phone, but without battery technology capable of keeping it running for a decent amount of time, it is pointless.
IMO, the 720x chips in DREAM/MAGIC are plenty. The 3D component could use some advancement, but the CPU itself is lots. We're not trying to win speed races here!
T-Mobile needs to be cutting edge so it retains its customer base, everyone and their grandma wants to have an Android now
If they don't stay at it to offer the newest, most innovative android phones there are plenty of other companies that will.
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T-Mobile is NOT A PHONE MANUFACTURER!!!!
They are a MOBILE SERVICE PROVIDER.
The phones they sell are made by any number of actual hardware manufacturers, including HTC, Motorola, Nokia, etc. Having one phone or another really doesn't matter in terms of SERVICE PROVISION. Especially since they use SIMCARDS -- you can buy ANY phone you like and use it. The only things affecting whether they have customers or not is their PRICE and SERVICE QUALITY.

legend221 said:
According to boygeniusreport.com the HTC Vision, a rumored Android smartphone is in fact a variant of the Desire complete with a sliding FULL QWERTY keypad.
See original article here --->> http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/05/21/htc-vision-rumored-to-be-a-desire-with-qwerty-keypad/
I'm hopeful it comes to the U.S. as we need a direct competitor to the Verizon Droid phones that are confirmed out.
More importantly we need a truly amazing phone to finally move on from the HTC Dream/G1
Specs:
3.7″ WVGA display
5 megapixel camera
1GHz processor
Android 2.1 or 2.2?
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I know that that's just a painting of what someone expects the phone to look like and it doesn't necessarily match anything, but I really hope that if this device is real, that it doesn't have that stupid angle between the keyboard and the screen. A straight slide is fine, but too many weird movements really will destroy durability.
On the plus side, if the picture is accurate, the keyboard looks just about PERFECT. Even better than the DREAM's keyboard even, and that's saying a lot! 5 rows with ARROW KEYS!!!! Beautiful.
Only thing we'd have to do is strip that SENSE crap off it!

If it is going to look like that then I am in for one. I am not going to give up my G1 until a good phone comes out to blow it out of the water. Even more so now with having rooted my phone and CM 5.0.7 stable installed. I just hope we can kill some of the bloatware fluff and keep it smooth because T-Mobile insist on limiting us on RAM.... WTH? An extra 512mb is only a few cents more, pass the cost onto the customers if that is such an issue!

lbcoder said:
That is a very bold statement and totally flawed. One could conceivably shoehorn a 6-core opteron chip onto a phone and it would be wickedly fast and versatile, problem is that it would drain the battery dead in SECONDS. You really need to think about things for a bit -- why, if "faster is better" would intel be making such a killing off the ATOM chips? Why isn't anyone building phones with Intel's or AMD's fastest chips?
Because faster is NOT better! In a phone, EFFICIENT is better. The difficult part about building a phone is balancing the performance with the available BATTERY CAPACITY. You can make a wickedly fast phone, but without battery technology capable of keeping it running for a decent amount of time, it is pointless.
IMO, the 720x chips in DREAM/MAGIC are plenty. The 3D component could use some advancement, but the CPU itself is lots. We're not trying to win speed races here!
T-Mobile is NOT A PHONE MANUFACTURER!!!!
They are a MOBILE SERVICE PROVIDER.
The phones they sell are made by any number of actual hardware manufacturers, including HTC, Motorola, Nokia, etc. Having one phone or another really doesn't matter in terms of SERVICE PROVISION. Especially since they use SIMCARDS -- you can buy ANY phone you like and use it. The only things affecting whether they have customers or not is their PRICE and SERVICE QUALITY.
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In regards to the faster processor someone just has to read from the experiences a Nexus One user has about the performance and realize that a 1Ghz is indeed wanted by current users pushing thier G1's to its limits. Its up to the person if they want a 600Mhz or a 1Ghz processor true enough but for me the 1Ghz is a no brainer. Most of these Nexus One owners are mainly ex-G1 and Mytouch so only they can understand the real difference which is quite significant espcially due to them not having a keyboard anymore and them being satisfied with thier purchase.
There are times when I am using an emulator and saying to myself how much smoother and less laggy this would be if I ran a phone with a better 3D processor and a faster CPU to support it. Im sure many others would also agree with this.
Also, no one said T-Mobile was the phone manufacturer but it is up to them which phones they have in thier lineup one way or another. I know how and why but thats beside the point. Verizon in particular with thier marketing dept. have made the "Droid" franchise one of the biggest one yet, I am reminded daily when there is a commercial on the TV. I love T-Mobile but also realize that if they do not offer a suitable G1/Mytouch replacement with a modern eye pleasing body and styling, high quality and suitable size screen, full qwerty keyboard, 2.1 or 2.2, high megapixel camera, bleeding edge CPU, capable 3D processor and a suitable battery to support all of this many people are going to leave the company if they havent already.
We all realize this website is almost exclusive for our HTC phones. While many buy unlocked phones at a premium price many more xda members actually get thier phones directly from thier service provider as I said when I mentioned T-Mobile earlier because with a contract it is more than paid for through the length of it. Most of the time its under $200.00 with a 2-year contract vs. $450.00+ without if its new to the market and cutting edge.

If you want a 1ghz processor, get a nexus one. End of story. If you would rather have a 600mhz processor and a keyboard, get a slide. You have options. No sense in *****ing about them or blaming companies for YOUR inability to make a decision. If you want the droid, get it, if you want the incredible, get it. Problem is YOU don't want to pay for it, you want it for free or discounted. Well, Your also SOL. SO pay the price to get what you want, or don't and get something more in your price range.

We know what high end phones should be. Right now that seems to be similar spec'd phones to the Evo, Incredible, etc. Adding a keyboard does not add much except bulk. So why are they not making equivalent high end sliders? Who knows?
Adding a keyboard is not going to add a drastic drain on battery life. So arguing that sliders should not get a 1 Ghz processor because of battery drain, when there are phones already out with the same processor, is moot.
All we are asking for is equivalently spec'd phones to the current high end line of iClones. It is not that difficult to grasp... Really. I promise.
Personally, I would pay $1000 or more for the right high end Android slider... They just don't make it yet.

Certainly looks a lot better than the MyTouch Slide. I hope it's something like that phone. I love my G1! Especially the keyboard. Really hope they make a new G1.. :\
I did a post about it.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index....rocessor-35mm-jack-atmel-maxtouch-sensor-etc/
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mob...n-Processor-3-5-mm-Jack-amp-Atmel/td-p/366743
(Well instead of what I said in the forum about looking the same.. Maybe a remodeled, but still similar design)

the keyboard looks like the touch pro 2 one...looks like a fake image?

I am going to add a little more to my last post...
As long as they do not try to mimic the Verizon Kin Two in looks I will be happy. I was attempting to mess with that phone yesterday at the Microsoft Store in Scottsdale, AZ..... Personally I think the feel sucks, it was harder to type on than the G1, and it was slow loading up pages. The only thing I did like was the heavy clear coating on the outside on the top of the phone.

from http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/16/epic-4g-review
"So is it the right phone for the job? In a word, yes -- the Epic 4G is a great device. Killer, even. Nothing speaks to us more strongly during the course of a review than finishing it and saying, "alright, I'm ready to buy this thing," and the Epic is on the short list of phones that has managed to do it. More than its Galaxy S siblings, it feels like the Epic has overcome its shortcomings -- notably the forgettable UI skin -- to shine, and it's a phone we could easily imagine using day to day. Only thing is, the EVO is also on that short list for us -- and the better camera, bigger screen, and $50 savings versus the Epic still make it our winner in this 4G shootout, though only by the thinnest of margins. Needless to say, if you need a physical keyboard and you're looking for the one of the most musclebound Android phones money can buy, we wouldn't hesitate to recommend it."

I've been thinking about switching over to the Epic but the GPS problems found on all the Galaxy S phones along with Samsung's bad reputation for slow if any updates make me really appreciate how awesome the Evo/HTC really is

You can't take engadget reviews seriously. They gave the iphone 4 a higher rating than the Droid X
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rockethot said:
You can't take engadget reviews seriously. They gave the iphone 4 a higher rating than the Droid X
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Of course they would, they are iphone fanatics. And aren't they also owned in part by apple or at&t or something?
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AOL owns engadget
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Of course they would, they are iphone fanatics. And aren't they also owned in part by apple or at&t or something?
Sent from my HTC Evo 4g
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rockethot said:
You can't take engadget reviews seriously. They gave the iphone 4 a higher rating than the Droid X
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But the Evo and iPhone 4 got the same score.
They really aren't as bad as some other news blogs out there (Gizmodo).

How many Epic threads do we need in an Evo forum? Are we going to have a separate thread for the Gizmodo review?

i played with a epic today, i wont be switching from my evo...

Engadget? -- Really? -- They're not even fully aware of GPS problems that are affecting the Galaxy S line of phones -- in short, completely disregard their reviews because -- Engadget isn't playing with a full deck -- don't let your love for HTC cloud your objectivity.
Hopefully I used -- enough.

Minjin said:
How many Epic threads do we need in an Evo forum? Are we going to have a separate thread for the Gizmodo review?
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The Gizmodo article needs its own thread actually...unlike this one..I mean in the Gizmodo article..now don't get a heart attack...only time it compared the Epic to the iphone 4 was to say that the Epic is better at it...when I saw that my jaw dropped....if anyone doesn't believe me read the article...
That said samsung said GPS will be fixed in September..so thats withing the 30 days of the Epic..so if necessary it ca be returned if GPS is a concern.
As for the Engadget review..only reason it got an 8/10 over a 9/10 was due to the 50$ extra..so its not that its a worse phone.it just costs 50$ more...

Vandam500 said:
I've been thinking about switching over to the Epic but the GPS problems found on all the Galaxy S phones along with Samsung's bad reputation for slow if any updates make me really appreciate how awesome the Evo/HTC really is
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They amended the review at Engadget after talking to Samsung. The Epic ships with AGPS turned off. Once it was activated, they said things look fine.
Apparently google is requiring this to be off by default now. Must be a privacy thing, because I can't see a logical reason to reduce functionality otherwise.
Most buyers will never turn it on, and will assume their phone navigation sucks.

We see who is lurking in the background:
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Considering the Epic *****ing when the evo was released about all the bone headed issues HTC still have not fixed I don't think anyone can point a finger at samsung. The Epic is slated for 2.2 in September and a GPS fix.
Without root and custom roms the EVO, for a power user, is a POS.
Talk about construction issues. Different parts of varying capability and quality. Different screens, different multitouch sensors etc its like they took all the extra parts they had lying around and stuffed them into the cases.
Light leakage, screens lifting etc... FPS fix? SD cards corrupted? Touch input lag? Grounding issues? Thank God for XDA and some updates.
The EVO shipped with far more wrong that the epic. This is coming from an EVO owner. If the worst thing wrong with the Samsung is a GPS issue that will get fixed and touch wiz lag (Which you can remove without a custom rom unlike HTC sense) then they are a few steps ahead of where we were at release.
Also it seems the 1gb of storage may entirely be NAND fixing the app lag from the vibrant and other Galaxy S devices. From Slash gear's review:
Happily, while use of the Galaxy S series was punctuated with freezes and pauses, anecdotally blamed upon the handsets’ use of an internal microSD card for their onboard storage, the Epic 4G seems generally free of such lag.
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It's still "Internal SD" from what I can see, we (Captivate/Vibrant) don't have the newer firmware (yet) that eliminates lag when going back to the homescreen or when opening apps.

Got a chance to compare them side by side today and I have to say I highly prefer the EVO, the Samsung has a smaller screen yet the device is bigger and bulkier than the EVO. The UI looks like something designed by a 5 year old with a box of crayons. I guess if you really need a hard keyboard the Epic would be the only route you can take but the keyboard works great on the EVO so I actually prefer the slimmer device rather than a bulky 90's esque slide out keyboard phone. I honestly can't fathom why anyone would want an Epic over an EVO but I imagine some Epic owners feel the same way about the EVO. Regardless there is not a snowballs chance in hell I would ever own an Epic over an EVO The only other phone I might choos is iPhone 4 but with it's tiny screen and lack of widgets the whole thing just seems like outdated technology, I think Apple has alot of catching up to do to win me back from the EVO/Android.

Aridon said:
Considering the Epic *****ing when the evo was released about all the bone headed issues HTC still have not fixed I don't think anyone can point a finger at samsung. The Epic is slated for 2.2 in September and a GPS fix.
Without root and custom roms the EVO, for a power user, is a POS.
Talk about construction issues. Different parts of varying capability and quality. Different screens, different multitouch sensors etc its like they took all the extra parts they had lying around and stuffed them into the cases.
Light leakage, screens lifting etc... FPS fix? SD cards corrupted? Touch input lag? Grounding issues? Thank God for XDA and some updates.
The EVO shipped with far more wrong that the epic. This is coming from an EVO owner. If the worst thing wrong with the Samsung is a GPS issue that will get fixed and touch wiz lag (Which you can remove without a custom rom unlike HTC sense) then they are a few steps ahead of where we were at release.
Also it seems the 1gb of storage may entirely be NAND fixing the app lag from the vibrant and other Galaxy S devices. From Slash gear's review:
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I agree. I decided to return my evo today, I'll preorder an epic as soon as sprint receives the evo and grants me upgrade eligibility again.

bluehaze said:
Got a chance to compare them side by side today and I have to say I highly prefer the EVO, the Samsung has a smaller screen yet the device is bigger and bulkier than the EVO. The UI looks like something designed by a 5 year old with a box of crayons. I guess if you really need a hard keyboard the Epic would be the only route you can take but the keyboard works great on the EVO so I actually prefer the slimmer device rather than a bulky 90's esque slide out keyboard phone. I honestly can't fathom why anyone would want an Epic over an EVO but I imagine some Epic owners feel the same way about the EVO. Regardless there is not a snowballs chance in hell I would ever own an Epic over an EVO The only other phone I might choos is iPhone 4 but with it's tiny screen and lack of widgets the whole thing just seems like outdated technology, I think Apple has alot of catching up to do to win me back from the EVO/Android.
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agreed, i played with our demo epic all day today, and honestly, im not that impressed. It is a VERY nice screen, but as stated all over, colors look highly over saturated, and text is grainy because of it. I am envious of the 60fps when scrolling through menus, but thats ALL. Touchwiz is a JOKE. The capacitive android buttons work when they want to, cameras are much lower quality, and the screen is smaller. MY unbiased opinion? I think the epic is better for the GENERAL public out of the box vs the evo. That being said, For us XDA people, The evo is still the clear winner. Ill take my over clocked custom rom'd up ass evo ANYDAY over the epic. GO HTC!

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You can't take engadget reviews seriously. They gave the iphone 4 a higher rating than the Droid X
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thats all the more reason to take them seriously... the droid x is crap

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It is a VERY nice screen, but as stated all over, colors look highly over saturated,
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"Oversaturated"? Riiight. I'm guessing those true black levels are highly exaggerated too.

I am within 30 days of return date for my evo and was considering making the switch but the reviews make it easier for me to stick to the evo
With fresh Rom and havs kernel my battery life is fine and I don't really think I would ever use the horizontal hardware keyboard
If it was a vertical keyboard maybe since id be able to use it one handed
The screen is nice but from looking at the vibrant it had a blueish hue I did not care for. Additionally the pentile matrix display made text a bit tough to read from anything but zoomed in levels

Excited by the announcement of the new Sprint phones?
Not sure which one to get?
Here's a user-friendly guide in layman's English to help you decide between the two.
I originally posted this (here) on the EVO General forum, but I'm deciding to reach out the Epic community.
If you see anything incorrect or missing, please let me know!
I'll start with the Nexus S 4G
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Will receive upgrades first
Will likely run Icecream (HC reworked for phones)
AOSP
No bloatware, and no Sprint apps
Hardware:
1GHz Hummingbird Processor
512MB RAM
4" Super AMOLED screen
16gb internal storage
NO MicroSD card slot
NFC Capability
5MP rear camera
VGA Front camera
1500 mAh Li-ion battery
GPU rated as good, if not slightly better than EVO3D's Adreno 220**
Unique Contour display*
*The contour display can best be seen here. Essentially, the display curves slightly at the ends and reviews have reported it feeling nice against your face. Aside from the feel, the SAMOLED display grants more vivid colors, more luminance, and more contrast, making text easy to read at most sizes.
**Which means the Nexus S will be able to display graphics on a similar caliber of the EVO3D, which is much higher than the EVO.
Layman's terms? Have you noticed how bad the N64 Emulator is on the EVO? It should run beautifully on the Nexus S, and even better on the EVO3D.
Release date: "Spring" 2011
Price: $199 on contract
Form:
An important spec of phones to some users is also their outside form. Here's what we've got on the Nexus
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63mm x 123.9mm x 10.88mm
129g
4" contour display
Feel: CNET and user reviews say it feels light, and the material feels ´lighter´without metal parts.
This will make it feel more airy, smaller, and less bulky than the current EVO, which is very similar to the EVO3D
Users have reported a 'cheapy' plastic feel to the Nexus S, similar to the Epic. Other than that, there's no decision one way or another if that could be an issue when dropping the phone.
Advice? Don't drop your phone, no matter which model. Or buy a case of some sort.
Summary:
If you end up selling your EVO for $200 (easily done), you'll be able to upgrade to this phone for free. Why would you do that? Well, it's free, and it's a hardware and, eventually, a software upgrade from the EVO. While it boasts almost the same specs as the EVO, the processor is newer and the screen displays more colors with more vibrance.
Currently, the TMO Nexus S has benchmarks that run circles around the EVO and battery life that has been reported to last ~20 hours off-charger. Sound good to you? Same to me.
The phone will definitely last you through 2011, and likely a good chunk, if not all, of 2012. I anticipate it will also be receiving Android versions 2.4 and 3.1 (If that's Ice Cream), which will be more than capable of running on this phone, even if Quad-Core phones are released and run it as well.
Aside from the hardware, the software will be top-notch. You'll receive the latest Android software updates as soon as they're released, and the dev community should be buzzing on this phone, considering its AOSP nature.
Who is this phone good for?
Economically-minded users who want a boost from their current EVO and/or want a great developing experience. If the latest and greatest Google software is your thing, this phone is for you. Keep in mind that Nexus S already runs the Honeycomb SDKs and it will be a breeze to port the AOSP Honeycomb to the Nexus S once the source is released. Further more, AOSP will finally be developing code for WiMax chips, which will help ROMs like CM in incorporating WiMax. You'll also get WiMax on CM8 (When released) first, most likely.
Additional:
Miss having an LED notification light?
Here's your solution: BLN (Back Light Notifications)
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-s-receives-bln-notifications-thanks-xda

Intro:
"How do you follow up one of the most popular, most successful, biggest and fastest phones of 2010? In the case of the recently announced Sprint HTC EVO 3D, you give it a higher resolution screen, 3D recording and playback capability, and you open up a whole new world of user generated content. Oh, and you make it even faster and more powerful."
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EVO 3D
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Includes Sense 2.0 (?)
Includes Sprint Software
Hardware:
1.2 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon dual-core processor
1GB RAM (Which can be expanded* into the External Storage, giving you up to 5GB RAM, which diminishes as you fill internal storage, down to a minimum of 1GB)
1GB Internal Storage (Previous rumors stated 4GB. This still isn't clear or confirmed at all either way.)
4.3" 3D qHD Display with a resolution of 960x540
Expandable memory: 8GB microSD card included: supports up to 32GB
Dual 5 MP cameras used to capture 3D images and videos
1.3MP front-facing camera
1730 mAh Li-ion battery
HDMI port
No kickstand... Devastating, I guess?
*Much like a page file on a PC This has also been pointed out as a rumor, and is MOST LIKELY NOT TRUE
Form:
The EVO3D is similar in look and shape to the EVO. Here's what we've got
Size and Weight:
126mm x 65mm x 12.05mm (4.96" x 2.56" x 0.47")
170 grams (6.0 ounces) with the battery
Feel:
Taken from Engadget's hands-on review:
"As we'd mentioned in our hands-on, we immediately noticed that the EVO 3D didn't feel particularly heavy or bulky in the hand; in fact, we would've guessed that it was a bit lighter than the 4G. Well, turns out they're almost exactly the same weight -- holding the two one right after the other, we couldn't detect a difference.
As for dimensions, the 4G is actually wider -- the 3D's quite a bit more manageable when you're holding it, especially if you don't have giant paws -- and they're right around the same thickness."
Price: unknown
Release date: "Summer" 2011 (June)
Summary:
If you want the latest Sprint power-phone with latest industry hardware and technology - You won't be disappointed. While there are mixed reviews and feelings about the 3D feature of the phone, it seems that 3D is completely optional and is simply an added bonus for buying this already great phone.
Battery life is undetermined right now. While it boasts an industry-leading 1730 mAh Li-ion battery and the processor is some times number more efficient than the current EVO, people speculate it to have as much batter life as the current EVO.
In short: Like your EVOs now, this phone will be fast, bold, and furious, taken to a new extreme.
EDIT: Since the question has been asked on the forums, I've done a little bit of research:
How will the EVO 3D's display hold up against iPhone 4's?
To answer it shortly, the EVO 3D has a slightly lower resolution (960x540) than the iPhone 4 (960x640). Being that the EVO3D has a larger screen and a lower resolution, this means that the PPI (pixels per inch) will be lower, resulting in a slightly less sharp display.
Who is this phone good for?
Power-users who want only the best for themselves. Want to play the latest 3D graphics-intensive games on your phone? EVO3D is for you (please don't mistake 3D graphics for 3D images)
If you buy into the 3D thing, you'll also be able to shoot and view photos and videos in 3D.
This phone has power, screen size, and speed that make it worthwhile to keep far into the future.

[reserved for side-by-side comparison and other things!]
dirkyd3rk said:
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thanks!
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They offer $150 for you to switch from them, if you buy a smart phone. Pretty nice deal!
Deal running through 4/16, but call Sprint to check.

awesome thread...anyway to add the galaxy sII on this list to compare?

Is that a Sprint phone?

I wish the Nexus was coming out sooner. I just talked my wife into ET her contract with T-Mo and getting a Nexus when its released.

Price of Evo3d off contract? I got $550 in the bank as a reserve for it right now with my Epic and Evo to sell to cover the cost after paying for it. Think it will cost more than $550 without contract? My gold status doesn't give me upgrade options till September and that is no good.

the only way i will buy the evo3d is if the screen quality is better then the evo..im so in love with the super amoled for its blacks and colors that im afraid to go away from the galaxy 2

gmap516 said:
Is that a Sprint phone?
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If your asking about the nexus s than yes. Its literally identical in every way except slightly thicker but from what Ive read from multiple previews, its not really noticable to the naked eye. Its a little thicker due to the CDMA radio and WiMAX radio. Heres some pics comparing the two. (T-mo vs Sprint)
http://androidcommunity.com/sprint-nexus-s-4g-spy-shots-exclusive-20110321/

hugo87 said:
If your asking about the nexus s than yes. Its literally identical in every way except slightly thicker but from what Ive read from multiple previews, its not really noticable to the naked eye. Its a little thicker due to the CDMA radio and WiMAX radio. Heres some pics comparing the two. (T-mo vs Sprint)
http://androidcommunity.com/sprint-nexus-s-4g-spy-shots-exclusive-20110321/
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No... he was asking about the SGS II that someone mentioned.
It hasn't been announced to be on Sprint yet, but it's assumed it will be after the way the first SGS panned out.

Hope so, Definitely getting the SGSII if hits sprint.

Both sound awesome, but I can't ditch the Super Amoled screen! And I want to get my money's worth for my Epic, so switching over so soon for a somewhat "old" Nexus S is out of the question for me. But count me in for a Galaxy S II!

i dont feel either of those phones are worth the upgrade over my current evo... i have my eyes set on the gsII! As long as Sprint leaves out the physical keyboard.

jxs1984 said:
i dont feel either of those phones are worth the upgrade over my current evo... i have my eyes set on the gsII! As long as Sprint leaves out the physical keyboard.
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That's the thing... they're not meant to be an upgrade really, more of a side-grade.
I like the idea of the Nexus S as an alternative to the Epic.... can't really say one way or another that one is better. They're the same damn thing at heart.
Which is exactly why I want one...

imtjnotu said:
the only way i will buy the evo3d is if the screen quality is better then the evo..im so in love with the super amoled for its blacks and colors that im afraid to go away from the galaxy 2
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Go to the Verizon store to play with a display thunderbolt. Go on the YouTube app and then search hd video sample choose a video and do the same with your epic. The thunderbolt looks damn good.
Now imagine that with a display that has even better quality than the thunderbolts with a HIGHER resolution. That's what the evo 3d will have. 100x better than evo 1

I'm glad to see this thread is taking off here! I'd be glad to add info on the SGSII as soon as I have some info to post!

I could swear I read that SGSII is coming to Sprint without a physical keyboard.
I was searching google and now can't find any evidence of this anywhere.
Does anyone else have any information on this?

I know this.might not be on topic but since we are talking about HTC I thought id bring it up. What's up with HTC making the thunderbolt so locked down. They signed bootloader, kernel and put the security on there? Sounds like a Motorola thing. I'm not getting that evo3d if they do that **** to hysterical phone. What do u all think?
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musclehead84 said:
I know this.might not be on topic but since we are talking about HTC I thought id bring it up. What's up with HTC making the thunderbolt so locked down. They signed bootloader, kernel and put the security on there? Sounds like a Motorola thing. I'm not getting that evo3d if they do that **** to hysterical phone. What do u all think?
Sent From My Evo Killer!
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I agree. The whole point of the Android OS was to allow the end-user and developers the ability to modify and create what they want (for the most part). It was a slap in Apple's face. But with manufacturers starting to lock down the experience (as Apple does), I fear Android will suffer. Google should not allow this from the manufacturers as they are tearing down the Android/Google model.
But, money talks and big business always beats the consumer.

nebrando said:
I could swear I read that SGSII is coming to Sprint without a physical keyboard.
I was searching google and now can't find any evidence of this anywhere.
Does anyone else have any information on this?
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i think i read someyhong bout that also, but cant remember where...anyway...i leaning towards the evo 3d but i think i will wait a little longer to see if more phones come out later on...either way i wanna ditch the physical keyboard...but a display like the epic's is a must have!
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I'm getting the HTC one x for my upgrade .. the specs for it is amazing . Beast audio,tegra 3 , quad core CPU, Wat more can u ask for ?
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My main qualms are it's a little big (this can be gotten used to), not removable sd card or battery, and not on VZW.

I could ask for plenty of things:
a battery that will last through a day
it can run Crysis
dual-boot Windows 8
1080p display
integrated subwoofer for actual bass from phone speaker
but mostly I ask for a removable SDcard, or at least a slot for another like on the Inc. Seriously, HTC? My 40GB right now isn't sufficient, I'd really love 32GB internal + SD slot. 64GB internal + SD slot would be even better though

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My main qualms are it's a little big (this can be gotten used to), not removable sd card or battery, and not on VZW.
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I was switching to sprint from my bros account
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PonsAsinorem said:
My main qualms are it's a little big (this can be gotten used to), not removable sd card or battery, and not on VZW.
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But I might just stay with vzw bcuz I don't wanna go through so much hassel . Might just go with rezound but let's see wat comes up
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
But I might just stay with vzw bcuz I don't wanna go through so much hassel . Might just go with rezound but let's see wat comes up
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You importing that One X? the One series isn't Tegra 3 in America. It's a dual core Snapdragon 4 chip which is equally as nice. Neither AT&T or Verizon will carry high end non-lte phones.

SlimSnoopOS said:
You importing that One X? the One series isn't Tegra 3 in America. It's a dual core Snapdragon 4 chip which is equally as nice. Neither AT&T or Verizon will carry high end non-lte phones.
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Actually according to benchmarks the S4 chip runs circles around the Tegra 3 in all except gaming graphics where the two are mostly equal with T3 having the slight edge.
Sent from my Droid Incredible using the XDA app.

Not really too impressed with any thing on vzw right now so i am holding out on upgrading. I do like the one series but not willing to switch carriers.

Just waiting for something new to show on vzw. Nothing exciting out there now. Starting to get impatient. Thinking SIII is it ever hits market!!!!
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I agree the Rezound is ok and im debating on weather to wait or get Rezound
If I wait long enough maybe droid incredible 3 would come !
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
I agree the Rezound is ok and im debating on weather to wait or get Rezound
If I wait long enough maybe droid incredible 3 would come !
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You should get the Rezound! Don't you miss dmeadows, wildstang, newtoroot, and joelz?! Lol. Plus some different devs I've never had experience with before this, like |||bored|||, scrosler, who are extemely good devs with good reputations. Even if the one x was on Verizon, I wouldn't consider it over the Rezound with our awesome community. Newt already got us Sense 4, even
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You should get the Rezound! Don't you miss dmeadows, wildstang, newtoroot, and joelz?! Lol. Plus some different devs I've never had experience with before this, like |||bored|||, scrosler, who are extemely good devs with good reputations. Even if the one x was on Verizon, I wouldn't consider it over the Rezound with our awesome community. Newt already got us Sense 4, even
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I do miss those devs especially Joel he was great developer for my droid incredible
I'll be getting the resound then
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
I do miss those devs especially Joel he was great developer for my droid incredible
I'll be getting the resound then
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Haha, cool. I think Joel will have a Sense 4 rom up in about 2 weeks, because Newtoroot fixed data for it, spent about 2 months writing code for it to work on this phone, and so he's asking devs to wait at least two weeks before using his as a base. Pretty impressive work from him though really. And dmeadows has been trying to get data working on cm9/aosp for us, lots of progress, but still not yet complete, shouldn't be too long though, I'm sure
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I'm holding out for the S3 or for the Note to come to Verizon.

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I'm holding out for the S3 or for the Note to come to Verizon.
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That would be a good idea too. But I'm nit to much of a fan for Samsung I herd lots of rumors about there phones freezing and locking up
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As much as I'd like a One X, or the new Evo (One X plus microSD minus design), I'm sticking with Verizon until they take away my unlimited data.
Because of this, I'm waiting for the Incredible 4G.
The specs should be similar to the One S, and it's supposed to come out April 26th, which would be perfect for all of us Incredible owners who got it at launch with a new 2year contract. I'll be eligible for my 2 year upgrade right when this new one comes out.
As long as the specs hold up, I'll take it.

demarcmj said:
As much as I'd like a One X, or the new Evo (One X plus microSD minus design), I'm sticking with Verizon until they take away my unlimited data.
Because of this, I'm waiting for the Incredible 4G.
The specs should be similar to the One S, and it's supposed to come out April 26th, which would be perfect for all of us Incredible owners who got it at launch with a new 2year contract. I'll be eligible for my 2 year upgrade right when this new one comes out.
As long as the specs hold up, I'll take it.
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I'm soooo getting that if it comes out
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I'm soooo getting that if it comes out
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If? It's definitely coming out. It's just the exact date and specs that are still rumors at this point.
Right now April 26th is the rumored release date, and that looks pretty credible (and right in line with the original Incredible and Incredible 2 releases)
In terms of specs...
It's supposed to have the dual-core snapdragon S4 (drool), clocked at 1.2 (it's not 1.5 but I'll take it. This processor is a beast)
1GB RAM
Sense 4 is a given
It's supposed to have an 8MP camera in the back (VGA FFC) and if it's anything like it's One X and S brothers, quality should be excellent. Pictures only show a single LED flash, which is a bummer, but not that big of a deal.
4.3" display is the best guess right now, although some people are thinking they may stick with 4" like the Inc 2. Either way, it's not expected to be 720p (qHD is the latest rumor). Personally, I'm hoping for 4.3" but that's probably not a deal breaker either. I've done ok with my OG Inc for 2 years and even 4" would be an improvement.
Display technology is probably going to be the biggest bummer. It's not going to have that GORGEOUS Super LCD 2 display that the One X and Evo 4G LTE have. It will probably be your standard AMOLED (maybe super). I don't mind that much though. I'm not one of those people who feel so pationately about display quality that they can write pages and pages on contrast and color accuracy and blah blah blah...
Pictures show all 4 of the old capacitive buttons, which is a little strange. Perhaps it's an earlier prototype and they've changed it? Personally, I'd be fine. I know menu is being phased out, but a lot of apps still use it so I wouldn't mind having a menu button for 2 more years. For multitasking, I've always found long-press on home to be more than sufficient... I felt that the dedicated button was extraneous. And as for search... removing that button was a big mistake in my opinion. Yes, there's the search bar at the top of the desktops (actually, that's not even the case in Sense 4), but without the search button you don't have access to voice actions from anywhere in the OS, which SUCKSSS.
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EDIT: I also wouldn't be surprised if there's two models, a black and a white. There will clearly be a white version, based on the pic, but I can't think of a lot of phones that offer just white, without also releasing black (usually before white). That's just my own thinking though.
ANOTHER EDIT: Some things that we don't have any rumors on, and some things that a lot of people are probably interested in are:
Removable Battery?
microSD slot?
NFC?
Personally, I dont really care much about NFC. Sure, it'd be great, but there's not a lot of stuff to take advantage of it yet. As for microSD, it's certainly preferred, but not a deal-breaker for me. I stream a lot of my content since I have unlimited data, but I do download a lot of podcasts, many of which are video, so the space would be good. Even though it's not that big of an issue for me, I can see how some people may have a serious issue with lack of a microSD slot. The removable battery is my biggest priority of those three things I listed. Although I'll probably get the phone either way, I will be SOOOO disappointed if it's not a removable battery. But then again, battery life should be pretty great given the S4, so maybe it won't bother me as much.

demarcmj said:
If? It's definitely coming out. It's just the exact date and specs that are still rumors at this point.
Right now April 26th is the rumored release date, and that looks pretty credible (and right in line with the original Incredible and Incredible 2 releases)
In terms of specs...
It's supposed to have the dual-core snapdragon S4 (drool), clocked at 1.2 (it's not 1.5 but I'll take it. This processor is a beast)
1GB RAM
Sense 4 is a given
It's supposed to have an 8MP camera in the back (VGA FFC) and if it's anything like it's One X and S brothers, quality should be excellent. Pictures only show a single LED flash, which is a bummer, but not that big of a deal.
4.3" display is the best guess right now, although some people are thinking they may stick with 4" like the Inc 2. Either way, it's not expected to be 720p (qHD is the latest rumor). Personally, I'm hoping for 4.3" but that's probably not a deal breaker either. I've done ok with my OG Inc for 2 years and even 4" would be an improvement.
Display technology is probably going to be the biggest bummer. It's not going to have that GORGEOUS Super LCD 2 display that the One X and Evo 4G LTE have. It will probably be your standard AMOLED (maybe super). I don't mind that much though. I'm not one of those people who feel so pationately about display quality that they can write pages and pages on contrast and color accuracy and blah blah blah...
Pictures show all 4 of the old capacitive buttons, which is a little strange. Perhaps it's an earlier prototype and they've changed it? Personally, I'd be fine. I know menu is being phased out, but a lot of apps still use it so I wouldn't mind having a menu button for 2 more years. For multitasking, I've always found long-press on home to be more than sufficient... I felt that the dedicated button was extraneous. And as for search... removing that button was a big mistake in my opinion. Yes, there's the search bar at the top of the desktops (actually, that's not even the case in Sense 4), but without the search button you don't have access to voice actions from anywhere in the OS, which SUCKSSS.
EDIT: I also wouldn't be surprised if there's two models, a black and a white. There will clearly be a white version, based on the pic, but I can't think of a lot of phones that offer just white, without also releasing black (usually before white). That's just my own thinking though.
ANOTHER EDIT: Some things that we don't have any rumors on, and some things that a lot of people are probably interested in are:
Removable Battery?
microSD slot?
NFC?
Personally, I dont really care much about NFC. Sure, it'd be great, but there's not a lot of stuff to take advantage of it yet. As for microSD, it's certainly preferred, but not a deal-breaker for me. I stream a lot of my content since I have unlimited data, but I do download a lot of podcasts, many of which are video, so the space would be good. Even though it's not that big of an issue for me, I can see how some people may have a serious issue with lack of a microSD slot. The removable battery is my biggest priority of those three things I listed. Although I'll probably get the phone either way, I will be SOOOO disappointed if it's not a removable battery. But then again, battery life should be pretty great given the S4, so maybe it won't bother me as much.
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That's it I'm gettin it
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That's it I'm gettin it
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haha. I figured everyone in here would already know about the Incredible 4G. I've been following it very closely since the pics were released. I even set up a google alert on it a couple weeks ago so I wouldn't miss anything
I think it's going to be really popular because
(a) Like the OG Incredible, when it gets released it will be the best phone (by far) available on Verizon at that time (the same can't be said for the Incredible 2)
and
(b) It's being released pretty much exactly 2 years after the OG Incredible, so people like me who are up for their 2 year upgrade will flock to it.
(I'm also hoping that, especially because of "b" above, that there will be a good dev community behind it)

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What do you guys think of the new Chinese phone that supports USA carriers?
You can view the specs here:
http://en.oppo.com/product/find5/
http://www.oppousa.com/
It's about the size of the Droid DNA, but better. I'm actually thinking of getting this. Doesn't have SD Card but has 16GB and 32GB Version! Great price, and a premium product.

Bad thing is......you have to buy it via western union and/or wire transfer. They do accept Paypal over $300. They sent me this:
For avoid credit card fraud,we don't accept payments for product 300$ or more by Paypal or by credit cards. payments for product 300$ or more must be paid by bank transfer or Western Union MoneyGram. For more information,please visit : http://www.fastcardtech.com/article-9-Payment+Methods.html
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Interesting phone! Looks sorta like a Optimus L9.

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Interesting phone! Looks sorta like a Optimus L9.
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Yeah it does! But the renders of this makes the phone looks huge when in reality its about the size of the DNA. I can't wait till Next Wednesday when they talk about it at one of the Beijing events.

It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
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Also as far as I checked fastcardtech.com is a FRAUD. I would not recommend anyone to use them. It's better to wait for a decent US release and find a relative in Sales TAX Free state OR use some well known taobao middlemen.

looks good on the paper
Looks good on the paper. 1080p for a phone is an overkill if you ask me with today's battery technology. I bet this phone has major draws.

I would consider it if the power button were on the side, I almost never use two hands with my phone and this would annoy me to no end.
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The only thing which bothers me, as a previous Tab 7.7 owner, the lack of software support, I may even sacrifice some hardware stuff for better official or xda community support potential. As far as I see it now the DNA, a major brand product, is nowhere near the Nexus devices in all the development and ROM hacking fuss. Oppo is moving to the global market, thus the good software support is implied but yet to be confirmed.

Actually, the size of the OPPO Find 5 is nowhere near the gargantuan HTC DNA despite sporting the same size screen thanks to an edge-to-edge screen and minimal wasted space at the top and bottom:
HTC DNA: 141 x 70.5 x 9.7 mm (5.55 x 2.78 x 0.38 in)
Oppo Find 5: 129 x 65 x 6.9 mm (5.08 x 2.56 x 0.27 in) <---smaller than HTC One S
The key here is the middle number, at 65 mm wide, it will be VERY easy to do one handed operations. This is a huge HUGE attraction for me as I'm sick of all these phlabets/phlaptops that HTC, Samsung, LG, and others are producing. Increasing screen size is one thing, but the phones are getting so enormous that it becomes very uncomfortable to use. It's ridiculous.

BAD_BOY_KIEV said:
It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
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Also as far as I checked fastcardtech.com is a FRAUD. I would not recommend anyone to use them. It's better to wait for a decent US release and find a relative in Sales TAX Free state OR use some well known taobao middlemen.
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Yess!! The 12th of December!!! I'm excited for that. And thanks for clearing that up, I kind of figured but it's good to have a second opinion.
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Looks good on the paper. 1080p for a phone is an overkill if you ask me with today's battery technology. I bet this phone has major draws.
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2500 MaH on a IPS display....it's really on how much you use your phone, because IPS is good on battery consumption, I think.
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I would consider it if the power button were on the side, I almost never use two hands with my phone and this would annoy me to no end.
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Just rechecked photo's, and well I don't find it a big deal. I've used the HD2, LG G2x, and HTC Sensation so if I get this phone it wouldn't be a big change.
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The only thing which bothers me, as a previous Tab 7.7 owner, the lack of software support, I may even sacrifice some hardware stuff for better official or xda community support potential. As far as I see it now the DNA, a major brand product, is nowhere near the Nexus devices in all the development and ROM hacking fuss. Oppo is moving to the global market, thus the good software support is implied but yet to be confirmed.
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Since this phone is supporting US Carriers with a breeze, will there be XDA Dev willing to work on this phone? That would also be a plus when getting this pone.
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Actually, the size of the OPPO Find 5 is nowhere near the gargantuan HTC DNA despite sporting the same size screen thanks to an edge-to-edge screen and minimal wasted space at the top and bottom:
HTC DNA: 141 x 70.5 x 9.7 mm (5.55 x 2.78 x 0.38 in)
Oppo Find 5: 129 x 65 x 6.9 mm (5.08 x 2.56 x 0.27 in) <---smaller than HTC One S
The key here is the middle number, at 65 mm wide, it will be VERY easy to do one handed operations. This is a huge HUGE attraction for me as I'm sick of all these phlabets/phlaptops that HTC, Samsung, LG, and others are producing. Increasing screen size is one thing, but the phones are getting so enormous that it becomes very uncomfortable to use. It's ridiculous.
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Whoaahh! Didn't know it was smaller than the OneS! But I knew it was about the size of the DNA. Thanks for doing the conversion!!
The thing I hate, and the LG G2x/O2x did this, was the hardware keys. Why so big? But your right, phones are getting bigger, and bigger is only good for people with big hands. Medium size hands like phones in the range of 4 - 4.7 inches. The DNA did it right by making it longer instead of wider, and I'm glad Oppo is understanding that. Hopefully the S4 and new upcoming phones get it. Keep the big phone size to the Note's.

BAD_BOY_KIEV said:
It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
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These specs are for a different phone mate.. it clearly states that it refers to a 4.5 inch phone with 720p screen... The dimensions are still impressive to be sure but nowhere near to what a 5 inch would be if they were able to fit it in just 65mm of width. It would imply a total absence of bezel as in *nil*, I don't think such a tech exists yet, true edge to edge is a decade away I'm afraid. I'd be happy to be proved wrong though...
BTW same applies on the existence of micro SD slot, it probably doesn't have one, at least the company doesn't hint that anywhere (sadly microsd slots seem to go the way of the dodo)...
So to recap, "hold on your horses", it'd probably be a thinner slightly cheaper DNA and given that it is a chinaphone I don't think many would be convinced... it's a good offering to be sure but nothing groundbreaking... again I hope to be proved wrong, if I do I would be the first in line to buy this phone (hate phablet sizes, love big screens and big memories)...

I updated the OP. It does not have SD Card but has 16GB and 32GB version! I am thinking of getting this phone

best alternative to nexus 4(?

PontiacGTX said:
best alternative to nexus 4(?
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DEFIANTLY!! The best alternative!! But if you're on AT&T, sorry no LTE

Best? I wouldn't say that at all.
I'm sure from a development state, this device will be lacking heavily. And anything non pure Google.....goog luck with the manufactures keeping you up to date.
Sounds like a sweet device, but it'd still take my gs3 over this all day long.
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dave_k605 said:
Best? I wouldn't say that at all.
I'm sure from a development state, this device will be lacking heavily. And anything non pure Google.....goog luck with the manufactures keeping you up to date.
Sounds like a sweet device, but it'd still take my gs3 over this all day long.
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Well, well my friend, assuming is not good. If you go to oppo's forum they are very well up to date, and current than GS3. They are pure google with little customization to not run it down. Idk about Samsung but 4.2 on Oppo devices are coming in Mid Jan. ALSO I don't know about when a new version of android is coming about but when it does Oppo will surely have it out in 2-3 months tops.
So from a development state, Samsung lacks it heavily, and Samsung lacks pure google. Good luck waiting years on Samsung getting you updates that takes years to update

richie390 said:
Well, well my friend, assuming is not good. If you go to oppo's forum they are very well up to date, and current than GS3. They are pure google with little customization to not run it down. Idk about Samsung but 4.2 on Oppo devices are coming in Mid Jan. ALSO I don't know about when a new version of android is coming about but when it does Oppo will surely have it out in 2-3 months tops.
So from a development state, Samsung lacks it heavily, and Samsung lacks pure google. Good luck waiting years on Samsung getting you updates that takes years to update
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My Verizon galaxy s3 is on 4.2 cm.
I've never had a issue having lots of roms top choose from south any Samsung devices I've had.
I'm saying is I'm not sure the oppo week have much of a following here in the states, if it does it will never have the backing that my gs3 does.
You cannot deny that.
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dave_k605 said:
My Verizon galaxy s3 is on 4.2 cm.
I've never had a issue having lots of roms top choose from south any Samsung devices I've had.
I'm saying is I'm not sure the oppo week have much of a following here in the states, if it does it will never have the backing that my gs3 does.
You cannot deny that.
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This is actually the first Oppo device heading to the United States support T-Mobile, AT&T, and Simple Mobile. It won't get the over rated advertisement like the GS3, but it is definitely a better phone, in my opinion. Official Software updates, better camera, fast, premium product, NFC.
I have nothing against the GS3 besides the width of it, and the material of the phone is plastic. Otherwise its a great phone. But hopefully XDA will have some ROM support on this phone as its coming to the United States.

richie390 said:
This is actually the first Oppo device heading to the United States support T-Mobile, AT&T, and Simple Mobile. It won't get the over rated advertisement like the GS3, but it is definitely a better phone, in my opinion. Official Software updates, better camera, fast, premium product, NFC.
I have nothing against the GS3 besides the width of it, and the material of the phone is plastic. Otherwise its a great phone. But hopefully XDA will have some ROM support on this phone as its coming to the United States.
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Yes a nicer material would be nice, but we all seem to use cases made out of the same material to protect our investment.....so no need to waste extra money on finer materials to cover them up. Nice materials such as glass/aluminum are not add strong or resilient to damage.
I also am not bashing the oppo, seems like a nice phone and the more high end devices, we all win. I'm an android guy, I'm not band stuck, however I'm drawn to Samsung's...HTC is also nice, but on big red they haven't brought anything to the table I would rather have than my gs3. That being said if Verizon would have had the one x I'm not sure which way I would have gone......really nice phone!
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dave_k605 said:
Yes a nicer material would be nice, but we all seem to use cases made out of the same material to protect our investment.....so no need to waste extra money on finer materials to cover them up. Nice materials such as glass/aluminum are not add strong or resilient to damage.
I also am not bashing the oppo, seems like a nice phone and the more high end devices, we all win. I'm an android guy, I'm not band stuck, however I'm drawn to Samsung's...HTC is also nice, but on big red they haven't brought anything to the table I would rather have than my gs3. That being said if Verizon would have had the one x I'm not sure which way I would have gone......really nice phone!
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You made a good point about protecting the investment. But we're just gonna have to wait and see how this Chinese phone makes a impact on how the US will accept this
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