from http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/16/epic-4g-review
"So is it the right phone for the job? In a word, yes -- the Epic 4G is a great device. Killer, even. Nothing speaks to us more strongly during the course of a review than finishing it and saying, "alright, I'm ready to buy this thing," and the Epic is on the short list of phones that has managed to do it. More than its Galaxy S siblings, it feels like the Epic has overcome its shortcomings -- notably the forgettable UI skin -- to shine, and it's a phone we could easily imagine using day to day. Only thing is, the EVO is also on that short list for us -- and the better camera, bigger screen, and $50 savings versus the Epic still make it our winner in this 4G shootout, though only by the thinnest of margins. Needless to say, if you need a physical keyboard and you're looking for the one of the most musclebound Android phones money can buy, we wouldn't hesitate to recommend it."
I've been thinking about switching over to the Epic but the GPS problems found on all the Galaxy S phones along with Samsung's bad reputation for slow if any updates make me really appreciate how awesome the Evo/HTC really is
You can't take engadget reviews seriously. They gave the iphone 4 a higher rating than the Droid X
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You can't take engadget reviews seriously. They gave the iphone 4 a higher rating than the Droid X
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Of course they would, they are iphone fanatics. And aren't they also owned in part by apple or at&t or something?
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Of course they would, they are iphone fanatics. And aren't they also owned in part by apple or at&t or something?
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You can't take engadget reviews seriously. They gave the iphone 4 a higher rating than the Droid X
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But the Evo and iPhone 4 got the same score.
They really aren't as bad as some other news blogs out there (Gizmodo).
How many Epic threads do we need in an Evo forum? Are we going to have a separate thread for the Gizmodo review?
i played with a epic today, i wont be switching from my evo...
Engadget? -- Really? -- They're not even fully aware of GPS problems that are affecting the Galaxy S line of phones -- in short, completely disregard their reviews because -- Engadget isn't playing with a full deck -- don't let your love for HTC cloud your objectivity.
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How many Epic threads do we need in an Evo forum? Are we going to have a separate thread for the Gizmodo review?
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The Gizmodo article needs its own thread actually...unlike this one..I mean in the Gizmodo article..now don't get a heart attack...only time it compared the Epic to the iphone 4 was to say that the Epic is better at it...when I saw that my jaw dropped....if anyone doesn't believe me read the article...
That said samsung said GPS will be fixed in September..so thats withing the 30 days of the Epic..so if necessary it ca be returned if GPS is a concern.
As for the Engadget review..only reason it got an 8/10 over a 9/10 was due to the 50$ extra..so its not that its a worse phone.it just costs 50$ more...
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I've been thinking about switching over to the Epic but the GPS problems found on all the Galaxy S phones along with Samsung's bad reputation for slow if any updates make me really appreciate how awesome the Evo/HTC really is
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They amended the review at Engadget after talking to Samsung. The Epic ships with AGPS turned off. Once it was activated, they said things look fine.
Apparently google is requiring this to be off by default now. Must be a privacy thing, because I can't see a logical reason to reduce functionality otherwise.
Most buyers will never turn it on, and will assume their phone navigation sucks.
We see who is lurking in the background:
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Considering the Epic *****ing when the evo was released about all the bone headed issues HTC still have not fixed I don't think anyone can point a finger at samsung. The Epic is slated for 2.2 in September and a GPS fix.
Without root and custom roms the EVO, for a power user, is a POS.
Talk about construction issues. Different parts of varying capability and quality. Different screens, different multitouch sensors etc its like they took all the extra parts they had lying around and stuffed them into the cases.
Light leakage, screens lifting etc... FPS fix? SD cards corrupted? Touch input lag? Grounding issues? Thank God for XDA and some updates.
The EVO shipped with far more wrong that the epic. This is coming from an EVO owner. If the worst thing wrong with the Samsung is a GPS issue that will get fixed and touch wiz lag (Which you can remove without a custom rom unlike HTC sense) then they are a few steps ahead of where we were at release.
Also it seems the 1gb of storage may entirely be NAND fixing the app lag from the vibrant and other Galaxy S devices. From Slash gear's review:
Happily, while use of the Galaxy S series was punctuated with freezes and pauses, anecdotally blamed upon the handsets’ use of an internal microSD card for their onboard storage, the Epic 4G seems generally free of such lag.
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It's still "Internal SD" from what I can see, we (Captivate/Vibrant) don't have the newer firmware (yet) that eliminates lag when going back to the homescreen or when opening apps.
Got a chance to compare them side by side today and I have to say I highly prefer the EVO, the Samsung has a smaller screen yet the device is bigger and bulkier than the EVO. The UI looks like something designed by a 5 year old with a box of crayons. I guess if you really need a hard keyboard the Epic would be the only route you can take but the keyboard works great on the EVO so I actually prefer the slimmer device rather than a bulky 90's esque slide out keyboard phone. I honestly can't fathom why anyone would want an Epic over an EVO but I imagine some Epic owners feel the same way about the EVO. Regardless there is not a snowballs chance in hell I would ever own an Epic over an EVO The only other phone I might choos is iPhone 4 but with it's tiny screen and lack of widgets the whole thing just seems like outdated technology, I think Apple has alot of catching up to do to win me back from the EVO/Android.
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Considering the Epic *****ing when the evo was released about all the bone headed issues HTC still have not fixed I don't think anyone can point a finger at samsung. The Epic is slated for 2.2 in September and a GPS fix.
Without root and custom roms the EVO, for a power user, is a POS.
Talk about construction issues. Different parts of varying capability and quality. Different screens, different multitouch sensors etc its like they took all the extra parts they had lying around and stuffed them into the cases.
Light leakage, screens lifting etc... FPS fix? SD cards corrupted? Touch input lag? Grounding issues? Thank God for XDA and some updates.
The EVO shipped with far more wrong that the epic. This is coming from an EVO owner. If the worst thing wrong with the Samsung is a GPS issue that will get fixed and touch wiz lag (Which you can remove without a custom rom unlike HTC sense) then they are a few steps ahead of where we were at release.
Also it seems the 1gb of storage may entirely be NAND fixing the app lag from the vibrant and other Galaxy S devices. From Slash gear's review:
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I agree. I decided to return my evo today, I'll preorder an epic as soon as sprint receives the evo and grants me upgrade eligibility again.
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Got a chance to compare them side by side today and I have to say I highly prefer the EVO, the Samsung has a smaller screen yet the device is bigger and bulkier than the EVO. The UI looks like something designed by a 5 year old with a box of crayons. I guess if you really need a hard keyboard the Epic would be the only route you can take but the keyboard works great on the EVO so I actually prefer the slimmer device rather than a bulky 90's esque slide out keyboard phone. I honestly can't fathom why anyone would want an Epic over an EVO but I imagine some Epic owners feel the same way about the EVO. Regardless there is not a snowballs chance in hell I would ever own an Epic over an EVO The only other phone I might choos is iPhone 4 but with it's tiny screen and lack of widgets the whole thing just seems like outdated technology, I think Apple has alot of catching up to do to win me back from the EVO/Android.
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agreed, i played with our demo epic all day today, and honestly, im not that impressed. It is a VERY nice screen, but as stated all over, colors look highly over saturated, and text is grainy because of it. I am envious of the 60fps when scrolling through menus, but thats ALL. Touchwiz is a JOKE. The capacitive android buttons work when they want to, cameras are much lower quality, and the screen is smaller. MY unbiased opinion? I think the epic is better for the GENERAL public out of the box vs the evo. That being said, For us XDA people, The evo is still the clear winner. Ill take my over clocked custom rom'd up ass evo ANYDAY over the epic. GO HTC!
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You can't take engadget reviews seriously. They gave the iphone 4 a higher rating than the Droid X
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thats all the more reason to take them seriously... the droid x is crap
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It is a VERY nice screen, but as stated all over, colors look highly over saturated,
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"Oversaturated"? Riiight. I'm guessing those true black levels are highly exaggerated too.
I am within 30 days of return date for my evo and was considering making the switch but the reviews make it easier for me to stick to the evo
With fresh Rom and havs kernel my battery life is fine and I don't really think I would ever use the horizontal hardware keyboard
If it was a vertical keyboard maybe since id be able to use it one handed
The screen is nice but from looking at the vibrant it had a blueish hue I did not care for. Additionally the pentile matrix display made text a bit tough to read from anything but zoomed in levels
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It's me again, last week I posted some side by side photos of the Evo 4G and the Droid X. This week we have two of sprint's 4G handset side by side, the HTC EVO 4G next to the Samsung Epic 4G.
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You should try matching wallpapers to compare the difference between screens, but I think we all know the difference by now.
Could they make the SAMSUNG a bit bigger? Its kinda small as it is right now!!!
lol, you are spoil by our EVO Big Screen....
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Yea, I will try it and post the pics, Got sooooooo many phones to play with on my job. Work in a technical support group so we all have the different high end phones from the various network...
A coworker here at the office told me she was all excited about her first Android phone and invited me to come see it. It's an Epic, the first one I've actually seen in person. I didn't want to rain on her parade so I kept my opinions to myself but all I could think was "You are still in your 30 days!! Take this POS back and get an EVO while you stil can!!!"
I am very surprised at what an awful device the Epic seems to be. I know opinions are like a-holes but mine is: The Epic doesn't hold a candle to the EVO and I have a hard time thinking of them as similar class phones. Samsung is a GREAT TV maker, if only they made phones as well as they make LCD TV's they would be a serious contender in the Smart Phone market. Too bad they are missing this boat (IMO)
First thanks OP for the pictures.
I had a chance to meet face to face with the Epic here is what I thought:
The screen is beautiful it's like looking at a highres photo. Simply amazing.
OK now that I have that out of the way. The device feels like a cheap kids toy. I kid you not in your hand it just feels like its going to break. It doesn't have that quality build feel of the EVO. The screen doesn't tilt, anyone who owned a TP2 knows what I'm talking about. The screen is small compared to the EVO. I don't care if its .3" or .9" its smaller by a long shot. Processor was slower than the EVO it scored like 954 in quadrant standard. I know it can be over clocked and it doesn't have FroYo so at best it will be as fast as the EVO. It did run 54 fps avg with about 4 or 5 stdev out of the box.
Got to go so I don't have time to proof read my statement, thread grammar checkers let me know.
nicely done op! i really like seeing a side-by-side comparison. even though i like the physical keyboard, i don't like how thick it is! i'm sticking with my EVO. it's just so sexy.
P.S. the samsung owner should check their voicemails!!
give it some time man, here is a a screen shot of the epic in quadrant
we only have stock 2.1 right now and if your looking for a base value look at the nexus one pre 2.2 and compare it to froyo nexus one. that is a substantial jump in score, perhaps when we get 2.2 it will indeed be as fast as the evo (with froyo) but is there a base score for evo on 2.1?
im not looking to pick a fight here but how exactly does it feel like your going to break it in your hand? im curious to known what kind of punishment your dealing to your poor phone that you would break it just by normal use..
not really sure why on the epic forum we have a lot of evo users coming in to complain about how the epic is a pile of crap (sorry dont check the evo boards so i dont know if there has been "counter" attacks) but why cant we all just get along as android brothers and enjoy 4g speeds together?
*EDIT* found some people from way back when teh evo was first released getting about 560ish on quadrant with stock 2.1, linpack gave yall 5.8 pretty decent compared to my old htc hero's 5.2. so the point of all this is just give it some time guys and we can both be on froyo
My post was not a personal attack just an opinion. Come on you know what cheap feels like don't kid yourself. And no the EVO did not score 560ish before OC and Froyo I believe it was around 900ish. Also I did state that they would probably be with in range of each other. We can all get along but we also have to deal with each other short comings such as the EVO GPU not being as good as the Epic. Soon dual and quad cores will be out. Last I am in the EVO forum.
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give it some time man, here is a a screen shot of the epic in quadrant
we only have stock 2.1 right now and if your looking for a base value look at the nexus one pre 2.2 and compare it to froyo nexus one. that is a substantial jump in score, perhaps when we get 2.2 it will indeed be as fast as the evo (with froyo) but is there a base score for evo on 2.1?
im not looking to pick a fight here but how exactly does it feel like your going to break it in your hand? im curious to known what kind of punishment your dealing to your poor phone that you would break it just by normal use..
not really sure why on the epic forum we have a lot of evo users coming in to complain about how the epic is a pile of crap (sorry dont check the evo boards so i dont know if there has been "counter" attacks) but why cant we all just get along as android brothers and enjoy 4g speeds together?
*EDIT* found some people from way back when teh evo was first released getting about 560ish on quadrant with stock 2.1, linpack gave yall 5.8 pretty decent compared to my old htc hero's 5.2. so the point of all this is just give it some time guys and we can both be on froyo
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My post was not a personal attack just an opinion. Come on you know what cheap feels like don't kid yourself. And no the EVO did not score 560ish before OC and Froyo I believe it was around 900ish. Also I did state that they would probably be with in range of each other. We can all get along but we also have to deal with each other short comings such as the EVO GPU not being as good as the Epic. Soon dual and quad cores will be out. Last I am in the EVO forum.
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oh i know we are, but as a person who browses the epic forums quite a bit there is a good number of people badmouthing the epic, wasnt directing that towards you i know your post was just an honest opinion. some evo users apparently have "iphone user syndrome" and cant fathom another device being close to their holy grail.
i personally am not looking forward to the dual cores as things are the evo and epic (out of the box) suffer from horrid battery life, yet that hasnt stopped samsung from working on the orion chip (1ghz dual core, claims to have 5x the power of the hummingbird).
havent had any complaints about cheapness for my phone, it looks and feels solid in my hands, got a nice bit of weight on it, not too far off from my hero. my first complaint about it was location of usb port and lack of hardware buttons. after owning the phone for a bit i can honestly say im very disappointed with the front camera, it is horridly cropped and such a low res it looks deformed when trying to use qik, (got plenty of issues with qik too but thats the app makers fault there).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695703
in this post shows a comparison of the hero vs the evo, and the evo stock is getting 544 on quadrant. once you guys have oc it got a bit better and of course froyo, i can only hope we get the same lovins
We both love our phones that's a win. I think the front cameras low resolutions are done so when using apps like qik they won't use tons of bandwidth and will semi work on 3G.
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oh i know we are, but as a person who browses the epic forums quite a bit there is a good number of people badmouthing the epic, wasnt directing that towards you i know your post was just an honest opinion. some evo users apparently have "iphone user syndrome" and cant fathom another device being close to their holy grail.
i personally am not looking forward to the dual cores as things are the evo and epic (out of the box) suffer from horrid battery life, yet that hasnt stopped samsung from working on the orion chip (1ghz dual core, claims to have 5x the power of the hummingbird).
havent had any complaints about cheapness for my phone, it looks and feels solid in my hands, got a nice bit of weight on it, not too far off from my hero. my first complaint about it was location of usb port and lack of hardware buttons. after owning the phone for a bit i can honestly say im very disappointed with the front camera, it is horridly cropped and such a low res it looks deformed when trying to use qik, (got plenty of issues with qik too but thats the app makers fault there).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695703
in this post shows a comparison of the hero vs the evo, and the evo stock is getting 544 on quadrant. once you guys have oc it got a bit better and of course froyo, i can only hope we get the same lovins
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Heh. Fans of the Epic probably shouldn't post in a thread within the EVO forums. EVO users tend to think it's the best phone in the world. I just think it's a slightly upgraded HTC desire
But I don't know how you can say that the Epic doesn't hold a candle to the EVO. I own both, and I prefer my Epic. If the difference was that big, I never would have considered the Epic But I like my EVO enough to not get rid of it. I just can't. But it sits around for the most part It just doesn't excite me.
all hail evo
It is the best phone in the world....until the next phone I want is released. I give it until Q1 2011.
The screen looks so much better on the epic
Not sure where you guys are getting those quadrant scores... I have a rooted evo running... whatever rooted (but stock RUU that came out 6 weeks ago or so) and my Quadrant score is 540-560 all the time.
Picked up an Epic for my wife (she has to have a physical keyboard) and it scores in the high 800's low 900's stock.
Would love to boost my evo. Refuse to update to FROYO until the calendar and Gmail push bugs are addressed though.
Quadrant scores mean nothing anyways. Screen on epic does look great at times but that screen door effect its really evident at times as well.
My buddy has the epic and if I didn't have an evo I'd get it in a heart beat. As far as the feel of thee phone, I wouldn't say it feels cheap and weak, but the evo had a sturdier feel, its hard to explain but its there.
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We both love our phones that's a win. I think the front cameras low resolutions are done so when using apps like qik they won't use tons of bandwidth and will semi work on 3G.
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oh im sure its low res for taht reason but the evo front cam is 1.3MP whereas the epic has a .3MP(?) but the issue at hand is simply hardware
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8060299&postcount=3
he explains it in that post, samsung made a fairly large boo-boo with that
That's absolutely correct,quadrant score means nothing,especially the free edition. It only gives you the overall score and not a break down. We all know the epic has a higher res due to it's super amoled screen and it's gpu. The high score is def.ly due to the Gpu. You would need the break down of the different areas that were tested.
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Yeah, solid phones either way. Hate, we must not. Embrace, we should. King, is Android.
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Hey guys. Just thought I would post about my experience at Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. 2 of my brothers and one of my brothers girlfriend all own the IPhone in various models and 2 of them have the newest IPhone 4. I pulled out my EVO to take some pictures of the nephews and nieces and they all started asking about my phone. "Can I see that?" "Is that the EVO?" They were amazed by my phone. I showed them all kinds of things on it and they were drooling and I could see the jealousy in their eyes. The IPhone 4 is nice, but in my personal opinion I would rather have a new Android phone any day. Anyway, that's my story and if you have one similar you could share it too. Thanks HTC and Sprint for such a beautiful and breathtaking phone that makes IPhone users drool at the site of it.
Nice pretty cool story
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There are some Iphone users who are in the dark about android, and once they see what it offers are hooked. But I find most Iphone users are such for a reason, they just dont know how to use other OS's and dont care to learn, or devote any time to it, the Iphone is just so easy to use out of the Box that they are happy with it, and when you show them Android with widgets and different types of alterations with each manufacturer, along with Home screen replacements, they just have that glazed over look in their eye, and thats when you understand why they bought the Iphone. To each his own.
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There are some Iphone users who are in the dark about android, and once they see what it offers are hooked. But I find most Iphone users are such for a reason, they just dont know how to use other OS's and dont care to learn, or devote any time to it, the Iphone is just so easy to use out of the Box that they are happy with it, and when you show them Android with widgets and different types of alterations with each manufacturer, along with Home screen replacements, they just have that glazed over look in their eye, and thats when you understand why they bought the Iphone. To each his own.
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Well said. That is my exact opinion of iSheep. With some, you can break the spell, others are happy to continue doing what their doing.
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Hey guys. Just thought I would post about my experience at Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. 2 of my brothers and one of my brothers girlfriend all own the IPhone in various models and 2 of them have the newest IPhone 4. I pulled out my EVO to take some pictures of the nephews and nieces and they all started asking about my phone. "Can I see that?" "Is that the EVO?" They were amazed by my phone. I showed them all kinds of things on it and they were drooling and I could see the jealousy in their eyes. The IPhone 4 is nice, but in my personal opinion I would rather have a new Android phone any day. Anyway, that's my story and if you have one similar you could share it too. Thanks HTC and Sprint for such a beautiful and breathtaking phone that makes IPhone users drool at the site of it.
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Same here
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There are some Iphone users who are in the dark about android, and once they see what it offers are hooked. But I find most Iphone users are such for a reason, they just dont know how to use other OS's and dont care to learn, or devote any time to it, the Iphone is just so easy to use out of the Box that they are happy with it, and when you show them Android with widgets and different types of alterations with each manufacturer, along with Home screen replacements, they just have that glazed over look in their eye, and thats when you understand why they bought the Iphone. To each his own.
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Exactly
Oh Ya and to add insult to injury one of the new iPhone 4s had the antenna issues. Dude said it drops calls all the time, but usually when he holds it like you would hold a typical phone. He said he has to try and remember not to hold it that way. Felt kinda bad seemed like he felt the iPhone 4 was a let down.
Cool story bro.
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Cool story bro.
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IPhone users were drooling over my EVO
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Now that was a visual I could have done without.
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Literally laughing so hard I'm crying....
God that made my day.
I will be saving this picture and copying your method of delicious hilariousness whenever i get the chance.
A few of my co-workers had the new iphone, and after seeing my evo and it's brutal awesomeness, two of them actually switched to sprint a week later just to get one.
+1 sprint
I have both... I phone 4 and Evo... My evo takes ok pics the iphone kills it, My evo has a larger screen but for some reason the iphone seems clearer, iphone has better games, and video capture seems better.. but MAN THAT SPRINT coverage just kicks a$$. oh and the evo nav and free wifi tethering. not to mention the calendar kicks butt! oh and the music downloaders.. good stuff. All in all I think I need both to make a baby so I can have the ultimate phone!
I was working at new data center being built in North Carolina for Apple (I think the data center was code named "Dolphin"). I was on a smoke break, doing a video chat with Qik, and a few people came over to see what I was doing. They were amazed that I was video chatting with my wife 1000 miles away. A few of them had Blackberry's, some Symbian, and I think one with the Iphone (3?). I was there for 2 weeks, and by the time I left I know of 3 people who switched to Sprint and got Evo's.
The only reason why iphone pictures look better is because they have better resolution screen. If you put both pictures on a pc the evo pictures look way better. Evo rocks.
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The only reason why iphone pictures look better is because they have better resolution screen. If you put both pictures on a pc the evo pictures look way better. Evo rocks.
Bingo! More pixels equals more awesomeness. Kung pow Evo
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I have both... I phone 4 and Evo... My evo takes ok pics the iphone kills it, My evo has a larger screen but for some reason the iphone seems clearer, iphone has better games, and video capture seems better.. but MAN THAT SPRINT coverage just kicks a$$. oh and the evo nav and free wifi tethering. not to mention the calendar kicks butt! oh and the music downloaders.. good stuff. All in all I think I need both to make a baby so I can have the ultimate phone!
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No way dude don't you know the EVO is the off spring of the iphone and Chuck Norris it doesn't get anybetter. lol
I agree with a_swellguy, there are pro's and con's to each, and I can definitely confirm iPhone pictures do look great, even in low light. Sometimes my Evo pics are very blurry and noisy in low light.
iPhone's battery life is also about twice what we get, and although multitasking is quite limited you don't have to spend as much effort worrying about maximizing battery life with task killers and such. It just kind of works.
The screen thing is kind of a wash, yes the iPhone is higher resolution, but I'd much rather have the extra screen size of the Evo than slightly smaller pixels, I think the Evo's resolution is already pretty dang high as it is and plenty for anything I do.
Sprints network slaughters AT&T any way you cut it however.
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I agree with a_swellguy, there are pro's and con's to each, and I can definitely confirm iPhone pictures do look great, even in low light. Sometimes my Evo pics are very blurry and noisy in low light.
iPhone's battery life is also about twice what we get, and although multitasking is quite limited you don't have to spend as much effort worrying about maximizing battery life with task killers and such. It just kind of works.
The screen thing is kind of a wash, yes the iPhone is higher resolution, but I'd much rather have the extra screen size of the Evo than slightly smaller pixels, I think the Evo's resolution is already pretty dang high as it is and plenty for anything I do.
Sprints network slaughters AT&T any way you cut it however.
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I work in the cellphone industry and VERY few people in this industry use any kind of GSM (AT&T or T-mo) service, why you ask? because they suck! I work in the middle of nowhere a lot those that use ATT I have the hardest time getting a hold of them because they are out of service when my Sprint works just fine.
VZW and Sprint have the best networks I have worked on, handsdown. They also have better roaming agreements with the regional carrier to get coverage in the middle of nowhere in the mountains.
I like my EVO and I am glad I am not tied to that POS ATT network (if they really want to call it that).
I met this incredibly hot girl at the bar last night. She wouldn't give me the time of day even though she saw me arrive in my Ferrari and I was wearing a $2000 suit.
Then I was talking on my EVO and she walked up and tugged on my sleeve. "Is that an EVO" she asked? "Why, yes it is", I responded. "AWESOME!", she said, "let's go back to my place..."
God I love this phone! ;-)
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First introduced just last year on the Wave, it feels like Super AMOLED was just starting to get its sea legs... but here we go again: Samsung's latest handset -- announced today in collaboration with AT&T at CES -- is the first to tout "Super AMOLED Plus" technology that features a 50 percent boost in sub-pixel count, promising improvements both in contrast and outdoor readability. Maybe more importantly, the display clocks in at a whopping 4.5 inches, besting HTC's 4.3-inch range (the EVO 4G, Desire HD, and likely the Thunderbolt) without getting dangerously close to Dell Streak territory. It's got an 8 megapixel camera on back paired with a 1.3 megapixel shooter up front, a 1.2GHz single-core Hummingbird processor, and still somehow promises to be the thinnest smartphone on AT&T when it launches at a to-be-determined date. Now, the controversy: despite the name, the Infuse 4G apparently doesn't have a hint of LTE -- it's HSPA+, which means AT&T's now playing the same game as T-Mobile.
We've had a brief chance to play with an early Infuse 4G dummy unit, so we weren't able to turn it on, but we got a pretty good impression of how it feels. Basically, we came away encouraged that 4.5 inches isn't going to feel too big for practical use -- if you're accustomed to something like an EVO, you probably won't skip a beat (that's undoubtedly due in part to the fact that the Infuse seems to be quite a bit thinner). We're told the tastefully textured matte rear cover that we saw wasn't final, but we're crossing our fingers that
Its a Samsung Evo 4g lol
At&t looking mighty fine.. plus found out first hand their 3g is
as fast as my 4g on a bad day..
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Its a Samsung Evo 4g lol
At&t looking mighty fine.. plus found out first hand their 3g is
as fast as my 4g on a bad day..
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Thought about posting this myself but I was just depressed. They're getting the dualcore motorola. Jeez.
That looks awesome, however my step mom switched from at&t cause of there poor phones service slow 3g and unreliable network, plus i rather have a keyboard on my epic and damn that thing is going to be big with 4.5 screen. Also probaly horrible battery life since it has a 1.2 processor..
Cool but i like my epic better...
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That looks awesome, however my step mom switched from at&t cause of there poor phones service slow 3g and unreliable network
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but...but...but...all their commercials say that at&t has the fastest network in America.
/sarcasm
but...but...but...all their commercials say that at&t has the fastest network in America.
/sarcasm
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LOL so true so true.. I had such fun at a recently holiday gathering with my iPhone-toting friends. The frustration abounded as I was able to zip photos from the party up to Facebook/Twitter in seconds and their network dragged and dragged. As much as this froyo fiasco is grinding my gears, at least I have a solid data connection 99% of the time.
If it had a physical keyboard, I'd be intrigued. It's a nice looking phone, but I rely too much on my hardware keyboard..
One of the reasons we dont have Froyo yet too. They've been busy with this big thing.
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I might have to find me another dummy to go to att and get me this phone,so I can use it with tmobile,is they hsdpa+ same as tmobile?
DiGi760 said:
but...but...but...all their commercials say that at&t has the fastest network in America.
/sarcasm
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Ya ill believe there commercial when my **** turns hot pink lol
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LOL so true so true.. I had such fun at a recently holiday gathering with my iPhone-toting friends. The frustration abounded as I was able to zip photos from the party up to Facebook/Twitter in seconds and their network dragged and dragged. As much as this froyo fiasco is grinding my gears, at least I have a solid data connection 99% of the time.
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So get this, my sisters bf has an iphone and i have sprints epics with mobile ap for free and he was saying my data speeds were 4g and he stated connecting to my phone with his iphone on my 3g service along with my laptop and 2 ipod touchs saying it was faster then his 3g service. LMFAO
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If it had a physical keyboard, I'd be intrigued. It's a nice looking phone, but I rely too much on my hardware keyboard..
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Dido, however i would not switch to crap At&T Service..
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One of the reasons we dont have Froyo yet too. They've been busy with this big thing.
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+1
Right? Seriously!!!
Finally, all the subpixels. Makes me jealous.
hydrogenwv said:
If it had a physical keyboard, I'd be intrigued. It's a nice looking phone, but I rely too much on my hardware keyboard..
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Same here... I would be an AT&T customer but their Android phones with keyboards is just laughable. Damn the apple for being the driving force behind the keyboardless phones. They are just useless to me... nothing like banging away at a text or email without having to even look at the screen once.
What would be funny, if it came shipped with 2.1, or 2.2 when they already made the nexus s 2.3 lmfao samsung would look bad...
Edit: nvrmind it has 2.2, and probaly wont get 2.3, wow samsung announcing a new device top of the line with android 2.2, sucky!!!!
Speaking of sub pixels..did the Nexus S use PenTile Matrix? cause In Google's specs they made it sound like no PenTile too..forgot to ask :/
davidrules7778 said:
What would be funny, if it came shipped with 2.1, or 2.2 when they already made the nexus s 2.3 lmfao samsung would look bad...
Edit: nvrmind it has 2.2, and probaly wont get 2.3, wow samsung announcing a new device top of the line with android 2.2, sucky!!!!
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Its not shocking..Nexus One already had 2.2 and EVO came out with 2.1...its ow these things work..just cause Gingerbread is out does not mean its 100% stable..hence why its on a developer phone...the N1 got a few Froyo updates before any phone got theirs...
gTen said:
Speaking of sub pixels..did the Nexus S use PenTile Matrix? cause In Google's specs they made it sound like no PenTile too..forgot to ask :/
Its not shocking..Nexus One already had 2.2 and EVO came out with 2.1...its ow these things work..just cause Gingerbread is out does not mean its 100% stable..hence why its on a developer phone...the N1 got a few Froyo updates before any phone got theirs...
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Oh i see, well i doubt samsung will upgrade anytime soon, i mean we still dont have froyo on any galaxy s devices in the U.S. so..
Thanks for that info tho. didnt know that
AT&T blows, nuff said.
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Im fine with 4.5 screen if they still make the phone same size as Epic.How?Epic has 0.2 inches of unused space on each side of the screen,now if they could make the whole screen as wide as the phone itself,why waste any space?I bet that sht is possible to make and get rid off 4 android buttons that nobody uses and make 1 or 2 physical buttons imstead and make them smaller.To make it short bassicly fit that 4.5 screen on our Epic- it can be done.
leatherneck6017 said:
AT&T blows, nuff said.
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+1........ I sold their phones awhile ago their customer service is the worst. they also are way too expensive for pretty much the ****ty service all these carriers have just because it comes with a pretty red bow doesnt make it any better.if you are complaining about 3g speeds get wifi boneheads. all of my major downloading is done on wifi at my house. im not impressed by the phone at all it is probably our exact processor just overclocked. whoop deee dooo daaaa. dual cores will be coming out in feb that will impress me
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no keyboard no thank you....it looks like a decent phone though too bad samsung made it measn they will get no support sucks to be them
No disrespect meant towards the OP but, F samsung. They aren't getting any more of my money.
Specs-wise, it's an incremental upgrade at best. We could easily overclock our chips to 1.2 GHz if we wanted to. I am surprised really, that it didn't come with a dual core ARM Cortex A9 CPU. I doubt that the camera will be much better (remember megapixels != quality).
The only thing that is really tempting is the screen, which now uses the RGB layout. Otherwise, it's not worth upgrading to. Upgrade when your phone is significantly weaker than the status quo, or else you're constantly going to be spending big.
Verizon just confirmed the iphone release:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html?mod=djemalertNEWS
Would this make it possible for us to flash it for sprint?
Get that outta here...the ipunk gets no love here. We're all about android here buddy. Go to a iphone forum with that question....lol
Just playing.
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Get that outta here...the ipunk gets no love here. We're all about android here buddy. Go to a iphone forum with that question....lol
Just playing.
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YEAH! lol j/k
But really gtfo
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YEAH! lol j/k
But really gtfo
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Lmao...lol
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Possibly has something to do with this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-cut-return-policy-14-days-effective-jan-16th
Only sissies have iphones.
I can't believe the OP even asked that question here..too funny
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No phone would be able to convince me to take it in the ass from At&t OR Verizon.
Iphones are for the ladies it takes a real man to run on Android and harness it >=]
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wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
hmm, a retina display with better cpu/gpu, better app market, better front and back camera, and overall 10x better as hardware and software (minus the ****ty at&t network) or an old outdated cpu/gpu, with a pretty bad app market, and ****ty cameras.
hmm thats a hard one. If someone figures out a way to "unlock" it to work on sprint, im jumping it asap. Unless sprint has something up their sleeves like the motorola atrix, which i doubt.
Also i never said that people should switch to verizon. Hence why i posted:
"Would this make it possible for us to flash it for sprint?"
Also hence why i said "CDMA iphone" and not "verizon iphone"
lrn2read, and then comment.
Ill pass. I got a iPod touch.
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Last-Chance said:
wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
hmm, a retina display with better cpu/gpu, better app market, better front and back camera, and overall 10x better as hardware and software (minus the ****ty at&t network) or an old outdated cpu/gpu, with a pretty bad app market, and ****ty cameras.
hmm thats a hard one. If someone figures out a way to "unlock" it to work on sprint, im jumping it asap. Unless sprint has something up their sleeves like the motorola atrix, which i doubt.
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Irrelevant to what some people said:
mattykinsx said:
No phone would be able to convince me to take it in the ass from At&t OR Verizon.
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You'll notice that says no phone, not "the iphone"
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-cut-return-policy-14-days-effective-jan-16th
http://www.androidcentral.com/veriz...de-policy-youll-have-wait-20-months-new-phone
Only two examples of many, many.
Last-Chance said:
wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
hmm, a retina display with better cpu/gpu, better app market, better front and back camera, and overall 10x better as hardware and software (minus the ****ty at&t network) or an old outdated cpu/gpu, with a pretty bad app market, and ****ty cameras.
hmm thats a hard one. If someone figures out a way to "unlock" it to work on sprint, im jumping it asap. Unless sprint has something up their sleeves like the motorola atrix, which i doubt.
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wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
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Have you ever looked in an iphone forum and seen how they bash android?
This is nothing.
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No phone would be able to convince me to take it in the ass from At&t OR Verizon.
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What this man said is how I feel.
I'd probably leave Android as well. I do miss my iPhone and all the amazing apps.
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I would jump on a sprint iphone 4 in a hear beat.
Last-Chance said:
wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
hmm, a retina display with better cpu/gpu, better app market, better front and back camera, and overall 10x better as hardware and software (minus the ****ty at&t network) or an old outdated cpu/gpu, with a pretty bad app market, and ****ty cameras.
hmm thats a hard one. If someone figures out a way to "unlock" it to work on sprint, im jumping it asap. Unless sprint has something up their sleeves like the motorola atrix, which i doubt.
Also i never said that people should switch to verizon. Hence why i posted:
"Would this make it possible for us to flash it for sprint?"
Also hence why i said "CDMA iphone" and not "verizon iphone"
lrn2read, and then comment.
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Yeah have you ever been to an Iphone forum? They act like the iphone is god's work and every other phone is just trying to copy.
I'm guessing you're comparing the Evo/Iphone.
The camera app actually has many more functions than an Iphone camera. From contrast/saturation/brightness levels to ISO levels, we have quite a bit of customization there. The camera is as good as the person using it.
We also have some camera replacement apps (as well as messaging app replacements and widget replacements and keyboard replacements... )
Retina display is all Steve Job's bs crap. No one cared about pixels until he mentioned it. Have you used a magnifying glass to read text on your phone and find all the pixels?
I'd rather have a bigger screened phone. I don't know how anyone can go from 4.3" to 3.5", lol. I can't even drop down to 4.0" for some of these new phones coming out.
Better cpu? Eh, snapdragon is fast enough on the CPU side.
GPU? Sucks...
But if you're comparing any of the newer phones such as the newer GPUs by HTC and the Galaxy line by Samsung, then it beats the iphone.
App market? We have SOOOO many more free apps... period. I rarely buy apps. The App store is filled with soooo many 99c crapps. Until recently, they have been getting priority with companies. Nowadays, many new apps are built for android/iphone both simply because of the marketshare.
Though I do commend Apple on keeping their product line so simple... they can create the thinnest phone with the biggest battery and everyone buys it.
Other companies need to learn from that. HTC pumps out new phones like no other. Phones get lost with all these random names like Desire, Eris, Incredible, Hero, Evo... not to techies, but to regular users.
Woooah rant. Fed troll. :/
The retina display is so much clearer than super amoled, or any other android screen on the market (right now)
The iphone is so much snappier than my evo, even with me running CM6. Everything on the iphone is faster. One thing i really noticed was how fast photos upload. In order for me to look at my pictures on my sd card, it takes 10 seconds to see one photo (might be exaggerated by a couple of seconds), but on the iphone you click on gallery, and the photos are there.
The app store on mac products also has apps for basically everything. Android is finally catching up..and im proud of them. However, it will take a while before they have the amount of apps that are as good as iphone. I would rather pay 99 cents for an app than not have an option for it at all.
My opinion is that a iPhone is a toy its a ipod touch really with more specs I'd rather have a phone that looks different from. Every apple product all there touch products look the same
To me that's my opinion
I'm sure there are threads out there on this already, so I will make it short.
With the problems that the inspire has (bad internal antenna, sound quality, and so forth) is it worth switching to the Atrix, or should I head towards a different device? AT&T is pushing me for an early upgrade as I've exchanged 4 of the inspires for different reasons, and I'm not about to buy a phone that has a ton of issues.
Any info is greatly appreciated.
And, to add to it, I'm looking at the new Samsung Infuse, and the Captivate as a potential replacement. No reason to go back to a "regular" phone...
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Well the captivate is really outdated, and soon will the inspire will be to, the atrix is more future proof than both those phones
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It is. It's all around better. No Sense, either. Lol
I owned an Inspire for a while and couldn't stand it. I'm happy with the Atrix.
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I would go with atrix. I would stay away from phones that utilize amoled screens because of their inability to display whites correctly, huge power consumption when displaying any color other than black, burn in issues and color oversaturation.
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If you're happy to unlock BL and flash custom ROM then hell yes go for it. The hardware is excellent for the price and considerably futureproof (dual core 1Gb RAM = enough grunt for foreseeable future). It also has my ideal form factor (4").
However in its stock state I would recommend pretty much any other dual core phone aside from the LG2X. You'd be surprised how few people realise its dual core based on their impressions of the speed of the default launcher/home (ie its not that great unlike the immediate WOAH of SGS2 stock or the glitz of sense). Other minor niggles IMO include slightly buggy bluetooth (compared to my other droids), , power/usb is on the left, not bottom, and if you don't actually use the fingerprint reader feature, the power button placement is less than ideal.
Like I said thou once you custom ROM/kernel it absolutely flies
However to each their own, maybe you like motoblur (if I was addicted to social media I could see myself liking it a lot more) and don't mind the AT&T restrictions (no native SIP, have to pay for tethering).
Yep, bought one outright off contract today. Well worth it.
Stay away from Captivate
1. The Motorola Atrix is the best smart phone I ever had
2. The Samsung Captivate was the worst piece of crap I ever had. Went through 3 of them before finally giving up. Stay away from this one.
Diesel984 said:
I'm sure there are threads out there on this already, so I will make it short.
With the problems that the inspire has (bad internal antenna, sound quality, and so forth) is it worth switching to the Atrix, or should I head towards a different device? AT&T is pushing me for an early upgrade as I've exchanged 4 of the inspires for different reasons, and I'm not about to buy a phone that has a ton of issues.
Any info is greatly appreciated.
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Well you're asking in atrix forum, so HE'LL NO, don't go for it. All jokes aside, its a worthy successor to The nexus one. Surprised me. Slcd is impressive. And blinding at lowest brightness. And once you unlock bootloader and root it, the least you can do is flash a stock rom minus some of the bloat to get your toes wet on how capable it is.
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Diesel984 said:
I'm sure there are threads out there on this already, so I will make it short.
With the problems that the inspire has (bad internal antenna, sound quality, and so forth) is it worth switching to the Atrix, or should I head towards a different device? AT&T is pushing me for an early upgrade as I've exchanged 4 of the inspires for different reasons, and I'm not about to buy a phone that has a ton of issues.
Any info is greatly appreciated.
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Atrix doesn't have any major issues if you ask me (antenna, sound quality are all great).
+ We have an unlocked bootloader and CM7 on the way. With vanilla android Atrix will be amazingly future proof.
Go for the ATRIX. Its totally worth the 4g and dual cores.
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I have both atrix and inspire... The inspire has a much nicer ui tons of custom roms let's just say tons of eye candy it runs smoothly when overclocked mine is at 1.3ghz but can go up to 1.8ghz... Battery life sucks but can be tweaked for example my phone when asleep runs at a little over 300mhz and when on runs at 1.3ghz so it gives a full day with moderate use gps is the second best I've seen 1st being the Atrix of course solid build some say feels too heavy.. I like it.
My atrix like many people said is more future proof ui not so pretty great loud speaker comparable to the blackberry bold 9000 awesome GPS can't be beat by any mobile phone qhd display if you like that icons and keyboard seem soooo small after using the inspire for a while picture quality is grainy compared to inspire which is 8mp looks like iphone quality HD recording too me seems smoother on atrix... With the ui on the inspire it seems to do more then blur... Sense is integrated more with facebook and twitter in every aspect.. Sound on the headset on both devices are loud and clear so it's basically comes down to what you like
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worth it. it's a different level than the inspire. high resolution qhd display (ebooks look gorgeous with all those pixels crammed in), first dual core in a smart phone, 4g, high capacity battery. i believe i read that it is the biggest on a smart phone to date.the specs alone put inspire down hard. and on top of that active indie devs? go for it dude.
don't let that massive screen on the infuse hypnotize you. compare the actual display resolution. a full web page renders better on atrix than anything else att offers
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Atrix is also the only phone with a 1gb ram to this date also although stock it isn't utilized install a custom kernel and wham its so fast its hard, even frustrating to use any other device!
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I left the inspire for the atrix. Don't regret it at all. Love this damn phone.
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First of all, you're asking this in an Atrix Forum so I can only guess what most responses are going to be ; )
But seriously, I originally had an Inspire and I can honestly say that the Atrix has better functionality with battery life, screen resolution, call quality, etc. I would stay away from the Infuse since it has been rumored that AT&T's SGS2 variant should be out this month and they might also be offering a model with a pretty damn good looking keyboard on it as well.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/07/26/atts-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-outed-with-keyboard-in-tow/
(Note: the article is old and they have since confirmed that the phone pictured is NOT the SGS2 but rather a secondary model that may or may not be launched)
Diesel984 said:
I'm sure there are threads out there on this already, so I will make it short.
With the problems that the inspire has (bad internal antenna, sound quality, and so forth) is it worth switching to the Atrix, or should I head towards a different device? AT&T is pushing me for an early upgrade as I've exchanged 4 of the inspires for different reasons, and I'm not about to buy a phone that has a ton of issues.
Any info is greatly appreciated.
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And, to add to it, I'm looking at the new Samsung Infuse, and the Captivate as a potential replacement. No reason to go back to a "regular" phone...
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Coming from a Nexus One, I tried an Infuse before I got the Atrix. It was slower than the N1, and it always lowered the brightness when used outdoors because of heat.
Happily returned it for an Atrix after it was released. Haven't looked back.
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Yes
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PH33R THE AWFUL VIBRATION MOTOR.
it might die on you after some usage. so you wont get vibration random or haptic feedback randomly.. QQ
I had an inspire before I got my Atrix and the only thing the insipre had over the Atrix was being unlocked.... and now that advantage is gone.
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