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so im checkin out the promo vid which is nice. and it reminds me of an android mixed with a psp like OS. which looks awesome. they say 1.5 or 1.6 android will be on. but i hear feb 10th is the release date.
Do the Dev's and Pro's think it should be portable to our G1's nice and smooth? The hero Roms arent too bad, i could go for an xperia x10 rom speedy like todays hero rom. but if it's slow like when hero had the flipclock that actually flip. I'd just buy a new phone.
Bzerk1 said:
so im checkin out the promo vid which is nice. and it reminds me of an android mixed with a psp like OS. which looks awesome. they say 1.5 or 1.6 android will be on. but i hear feb 10th is the release date.
Do the Dev's and Pro's think it should be portable to our G1's nice and smooth? The hero Roms arent too bad, i could go for an xperia x10 rom speedy like todays hero rom. but if it's slow like when hero had the flipclock that actually flip. I'd just buy a new phone.
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Reasons why you won't see an experia ROM:
1) It's WVGA compared to our phones which are HVGA. In other words the OS is designed to run on a 480 x 854, compared to our G1's 320x480. That's going to be a graphics nightmare.
2) It has a Snapdragon 1GHz processor, compared to the crappy 528MHz Qualcomm's in our G1s. That's going to be a performance nightmare.
3) And finally it's non-HTC hardware, which is going to be a driver nightmare.
Sorry for ruining the dream (pun not intended), bud.
But do you think we'll get some camera software from this that with a flash could make the next big HTC phone amazing camera-wise?
AdrianK said:
Reasons why you won't see an experia ROM:
1) It's WVGA compared to our phones which are HVGA. In other words the OS is designed to run on a 480 x 854, compared to our G1's 320x480. That's going to be a graphics nightmare.
2) It has a Snapdragon 1GHz processor, compared to the crappy 528MHz Qualcomm's in our G1s. That's going to be a performance nightmare.
3) And finally it's non-HTC hardware, which is going to be a driver nightmare.
Sorry for ruining the dream (pun not intended), bud.
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Very good points... damn i guess the Dream has to be out tech'd sometime. ohwell, theres plenty of time to enjoy it. Id love the screen and ghz up. but id like a keyboard.
A little soon... but any time frame on when we *might* be able to get an XDA hack/ROM to get the Desire's Sense on the Nexus?
I'm not a huge fan of having something on top of the OS to slow things down, but this implementation of Sense looks really cool...
http://www.engadget.com/photos/htc-desire-first-hands-on/#2713786
Now that the Desire is official I don't think it'll be too long or too difficult a port....just got to sit tight a little...
Would be great! ^^
and bring on the FM radio!
i want it soooo badly!
Ugh, i just dont understand the desire (no pun intended lol) people have for sense.
Now that standard android widgets have started becoming full-screen, why slow yourself down with a clunky interface...
It is better than the god-awful cube that samsung has though.
+1. Sense UI to me is annoying.
I wouldn't mind the HTC Bravo/Desire's vibrant rainbow wallpaper though..
There are a few parts of the HTC UI that would be nice to have. Phone Dialer, Clock, and Keyboard for instance... Also, the N1 is a way faster phone than the other phones that have HTC Sense. So, you might not even tell a difference.
When the first sense ui was leaked the Hero wasn't even released. So maybe we wouldn't have to wait for the Desire to be released. I just want the high res keyboard and maybe test how fast (slow) the extra ui layer is on N1. It slowed my Magic to a grinding hault. Maybe Nexus can handle more..
Sense on my magic actually ran super fast. .. the dialer and HTC ime are the huge winners for me. .. I'm really looking forward to sense on my nexus. .. anybody look into samsungs new wave?
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Ugh, i just dont understand the desire (no pun intended lol) people have for sense.
Now that standard android widgets have started becoming full-screen, why slow yourself down with a clunky interface...
It is better than the god-awful cube that samsung has though.
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HTC Sense won't be slow on the N1 you seem to forget that it has a 1GHz Snapdragon and 512 ram. It's not going to be like it was on the G1.
Wonder if the Desire has extra ram due to it having Sense.
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Wonder if the Desire has extra ram due to it having Sense.
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Ram is same as Nexus - 576MB
didn t HTC announce last year that they would make SENSE available to regular Android phones???
i wouldn t mind it
and official specs of the N1 does say 512 rams...
like this
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=862&news_id=510
arifhanid said:
Ram is same as Nexus - 576MB
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Nexus only has 512MB.
Redestwing said:
Nexus only has 512MB.
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Oops you're right - Ram is 512MB but Rom is same as Desire at 512MB also.
I think that extra RAM is specifically for running Sense UI....It ll be really good to have the option to get Sense UI onboard N1 at some stage. the Exchange support in Sense has always been better, so is the social networking integration, as well as little touches such as the calendar widget.
I am actually rather tempted to switch to Desire from Nexus One, missing the convenience of Sense from the good old Hero.
The Extra ram is just to make u buy another piece of hard hehe
I have right now on my nexus arround 300mb of ram free, i think we dont need 76 more of ram to run Sense
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nexus only has 512mb.
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hd2 was announced to have 448 mb rams but now after radio flash it has 576 rams may be we all have 576 of rams
I don't understand HTC's failure to make some money off sense ui! Make it for all capable models and sell it off the site for $9.00 like apple did with the software upgrade on the iPod touch! I mean I would buy it if it was optimized and available for the nexus.
So everything is in the title!! Without the money issue of course.. just wondering if i have to change what 's interesting out there?? Please do forget to say why..
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There is no phone that looks good right now.. Sure their Specs are nice but the overall look of them... NO, a nice HTC 4.3in screen that's thin similar to the HD2/7 with dual+ core and more ram then ok... 3D that's useless and makes no sense on phones
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There is no phone that looks good right now.. Sure their Specs are nice but the overall look of them... NO, a nice HTC 4.3in screen that's thin similar to the HD2/7 with dual+ core and more ram then ok... 3D that's useless and makes no sense on phones
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I agree with everything you said here.
My replacement will have to have at least a 4.3 inch screen, dual core, more ram, and no frikkin 3D crap.
There is no way I'm changing my HD2 right now, but if I had to I'd pick the Evo 3D, not because of its specification nor of its supposed 3D. But because of it's design . It's so sexy
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There is no phone that looks good right now.. Sure their Specs are nice but the overall look of them... NO, a nice HTC 4.3in screen that's thin similar to the HD2/7 with dual+ core and more ram then ok... 3D that's useless and makes no sense on phones
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Lol totally agree with you but.. still the atrix looks good.. or even the lg optimus whatever the name is..
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sumthing dual core, but specifically qualcomm snapdragon.. not a big fan of the dual core tegra
reason - QC chips kick ass
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Lol totally agree with you but.. still the atrix looks good.. or even the lg optimus whatever the name is..
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Idk why but the Atrix... Something about it throws me off... The Optimus X2 looks good
I can't leave my hd2...
I could not live without my HD2.
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I will never get rid of my HD2, even after it completely dies one day it will go into my go into my archieves as atestamony to it's greatness lol. But I am looking forward to tbe release of the HTC Pyramid. It is a dual core Snapdragon. Hell yeah!!!
Guys come on! I know we all love our HD2's but if you had the opportunity to switch to a native android device which didn't have any bugs and had the new snapdragon processor you'd definitely change. Also wake up lag is a *****.
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I think this would make me wanna leave my HD2...
http://wwalczyszyn.deviantart.com/art/HTC-quot-Eerie-quot-HD3-159409776
A phone with multi-os
Whilst I love my HD2 I have temporarily traded it for my cousin's captivate. Main reason so as to try out a native android phone.
So from my experience, i can conclude that android on this captivate is so much more smoother/faster than any rom from my HD2. In terms of variety of roms, it sucks, its either stock, themed stock, vanilla, themed vanilla. No variety in their roms really...
But that is where all those 3rd party launchers come in, like launcher 7. ;D
Whilst I do not know which device I want next, I do know it won't be another HTC or a motorola device. Reason being for both motorola and HTC, they've locked down their bootloaders now, so that means no more custom kernels, true root, etc. Also for HTC, snapdragon GPUs just suck, period.
I am keeping a keen eye on the galaxy s 2 however.
Definitely plan on getting the Htc Pyramid. Reasins why, 4.3' native android phone, dual core, 8mp camera, 1.3 front camera. 540x960 qhd resolution.
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Whilst I do not know which device I want next, I do know it won't be another HTC or a motorola device. Reason being for both motorola and HTC, they've locked down their bootloaders now, so that means no more custom kernels, true root, etc. Also for HTC, snapdragon GPUs just suck, period.
I am keeping a keen eye on the galaxy s 2 however.
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I don't know if i'm mistaken but i think that the devs are working hard on the locked down bootloaders that you mention.. and with a dual core snapdragon the htc pyramid sounds great.. but like you said just keeping an eye on it..
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i think HD2 is the best right now with no comparing,but the time cpu upgraded the heat come more and more without solving,i think HTC should be ware of designing internal component in the future ,most of common problem related to hd2 comes from heat, stuck.freezing and sometimes i have to put mine in freezer to boot, ,
My contract runs out next month and I like to get the latest technology as soon as possible as then the phone retains its value when you want to sell it.
But what will be the next HD2? I love the fact that I can run WP7, Android etc will any phone in the future be so versitile? Probably not.
I'm really not sure whether to just stick with my HD2 or upgrade to the EVO 3D, just a shame it doesnt have a Tegra 2 processor as that would pursade me.
A Tmous HD2 with 1gb rom
@chars
Yes they are working on it. However since HTC just released the source code for the thunderbolt, by which allows devs to truly root the device, maybe HTC isn't following in line with locking bootloaders. If so I will be keeping a keen eye on the pyramid. However since it's an adreno GPU I'm not sure....
Hi all, I'm not new in the android world.
I had a t-mobile htc g1 that now is borken, I don't know if I should buy now an htc desire z for 220€ or if I should wait some time.
I know that android ice-cream will be available in october-november, so I'm afraid that the old terminal will be devalued, and I'm afraid about the compatibilities of android 4.0 with the htc desire Z.
The desire Z is beautiful, but the specifications are not excellent for the standard of this days (no dual core, "only" 512mb of ram, not really good camera).
I love olso myTouch4g slide, cause it have the specifications of a new phone (dual core, 768mb of ram) and the keyboard.
The problem of MT4Gs is the keyboard, that is said is not good.. droid 3 have the problem of the ram (only 512 for a dual core), of the software (motorblur..) and the screen that is a simple LCD (the minor problem).
So my question is:
1) Wait for new devices after the launching of android 4.0 or bu now a device?
2) Desire z will be updated to android 4.0?
3) If I decide to buy now a device, what to buy?? (Desire z vs mytouch4g slide vs droid3)
(I'm Italian, but I can buy droid3/MT4GS from the USA on ebay and use in europe)
Thanks
nagash91 said:
Hi all, I'm not new in the android world.
I had a t-mobile htc g1 that now is borken, I don't know if I should buy now an htc desire z for 220€ or if I should wait some time.
I know that android ice-cream will be available in october-november, so I'm afraid that the old terminal will be devalued, and I'm afraid about the compatibilities of android 4.0 with the htc desire Z.
The desire Z is beautiful, but the specifications are not excellent for the standard of this days (no dual core, "only" 512mb of ram, not really good camera).
I love olso myTouch4g slide, cause it have the specifications of a new phone (dual core, 768mb of ram) and the keyboard.
The problem of MT4Gs is the keyboard, that is said is not good.. droid 3 have the problem of the ram (only 512 for a dual core), of the software (motorblur..) and the screen that is a simple LCD (the minor problem).
So my question is:
1) Wait for new devices after the launching of android 4.0 or bu now a device?
2) Desire z will be updated to android 4.0?
3) If I decide to buy now a device, what to buy?? (Desire z vs mytouch4g slide vs droid3)
(I'm Italian, but I can buy droid3/MT4GS from the USA on ebay and use in europe)
Thanks
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1) well youu can get some of the newer devices now because they will probably be upgradable to ics
2) most likley not. But the community will port it anyways and you will soon find tons of roms wjith ics as the base
3) i would say droid 3 is the best. it has pretty good specs and its design looks good. The mt4g looks real bad. If you dont **** motoblur, then you can just flash another rom. Also it only has 512mb of ram because the motoblur skin is pretty lightweight.
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evilcuber said:
1) well youu can get some of the newer devices now because they will probably be upgradable to ics
2) most likley not. But the community will port it anyways and you will soon find tons of roms wjith ics as the base
3) i would say droid 3 is the best. it has pretty good specs and its design looks good. The mt4g looks real bad. If you dont **** motoblur, then you can just flash another rom. Also it only has 512mb of ram because the motoblur skin is pretty lightweight.
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I hope that ics will not need of more ram and CPU/GPU to run smoothly... :\
The problem of droid 3 is the ram. The only better thing of droid 3 is the CPU dual core.. it really feels the need of a dual core??
The desireZ keyboard is perfect, droid 3 is perfect too but in another way.
Droid 3 screen is bigger and have more resolution, but is tft..
So droid 3 has better processor, screen (but tft) and camera but no sense (before a good port of sense we have to wait a lot I think)
MT4Gs has better processor, perfect camera(!!), more ram, but worse qwerty.. that is important for a qwerty device. (and yes, is ugly... it seems a toy )
And desire Z is cheaper 220€ is good for a new desire z, I think.
I'm afraid about possible desire z successor with the coming of android Ics, (new htc device with qwerty + dual core + 1gb ram) but in the last years HTC seems slow to release devices with slide qwerty for the global market (I remember only dream/g1, desireZ/g2, and the USA myTouch xG Slide ).
If I buy desire Z and after 1 or 2 month HTC release a new qwerty device, I'll hate HTC for ever
I would think you could get one cheaper than that
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Hi, i have DZ now, i get it from amazon for 498 and month after that was 400. Y really like Fisical keyborad devices and i recomend Driod 3 i like that. Otherwise i like HTC and HTC sense i am testing now sense 3.5 rom from htc bliss in my z. i will keep my z until HT releases another fisical keyborad device or i will buy HTC sensation or evo 3D, dual core, 768 and 1g of ram.
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I would think you could get one cheaper than that
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Less than 200€ is hard to find here
180€ would be perfect, but 10 month ago it was 550€..
myTouch 4G Slide is a great device (and I don't just say that because I own it!).
The keyboard is better than the G2/Desire-Z's, at least for me. The keys are just a little bit smaller, but farther apart and I can type way faster/more accurately than on the G2. I always hit too many keys at once on the G2/Desire-Z.
And the hardware Android keys on the MT4GSlide are great!
last week my friend came from france and brought me a Sensation and I sold my DHD. thinking i would appreciate the Sensation more but I really do miss my DHD. I had my DHD setup perfect and everything was working just fine, i just wanted a phone with a secondary camera.
Anyways, I rooted my sensation but most of the custom ROMs are sense based and there aren't many CM7 based ROMs. I was running black ice on my DHD and I loved it. Now the only ROM made for the Sensation by Alien Mind is a ICS Sense based rom. I tried flashing it to see how it is and I really don't like HTC sense. Now i'm running HyperSensation, CM7 based rom, and have my phone setup very similar to my DHD but I am having GPS issues! I am trying to sort it out and that's the only thing that's bugging me. My DHD was perfect! :end rant:
It's always nice to stay current and have the best item out but when you have been soo attached and had your current belonging set up to the way you want it. IMO the dual core is hype, my DHD compared to the sensation feels the same.
I agree with you, DHD is such a perfect device even after it is over a year old. At one time I do want a Sensation because it is a hype device (especially with its dual core processor, secondary cam, etc), but when I compared it with my DHD, I did not see anything urgent to finally make me want to spend my savings in order to get the Sensation. Dual core processor is only such a gimmick, because I did not felt any differences between dual core and single core, especially for casual uses. My favourite HD games such as Asphalt 6, 9MM HD, GTAIII, and LetsGolf series also runs very well on my DHD.
i agree with u swift and motherninja... and hi motherninja i'm from Indonesia tooo...nice too meet u here...
cool! we are in the same region, a couple hours away on a plane I live in Cambodia
I agree with you it's a perfect device, when you have root acces you have many options and ROMS.
yes OS speed the DHD is as fast but the GPU on sensation is way ahead, I like playing 3D games and the DHD doesn't come close, I have both phones
I think the DHD still has a long life ahead of it; its due to be receiving the ICS upgrade.
You can still buy one relatively cheap on eBay as a backup phone
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I bought evo 3d, and was thinking to sell dhd, evo's from asda are bad phones, they switch off itself, decide to return evo, will stick with dhd another while...
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I was thinking about upgrading my DHD to Sensation but I think I have to reconsider...
Thanks for the info.
With the new roms in development especially the ice cream sandwich based roms, I think I'll be holding onto my DHD for a while longer too.
sensation=pants
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True, only thing is the battery time but I can always buy a battery that lasts longer. And with the CM9 ROMs coming soon, I will keep my DHD even longer, + ICS with Sense - I hope it`s good.