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iPhone 3Gs User likes to buy HTC Desire HD

Hi,
I have been using iPhone 3Gs for almost 5 months and gets bored with iOS4 with so many issues and less customize other than Wallpaper and background. After using iPhone used with best apps and decided to moving to android with best customize of HTC sense UI. Few days back i got the information HTC desire HD and Z is lanuching to India by November. Its time for sell my iPhone 3GS and falling love with Android 2.2 +Sense UI.
Iam deeply concered about whether i can go for HTC Desire HD or Z with below factors.
1) RAM comparison
2) Camera and HD video
3) Perfomance
4) Battery Life
5) Future upgrade compablity for android 3.x,4.x....etc
Hope u guys help me on this. I know this is the best platform for users like me , with help of great people to get best of cooked ROM for WM,Andorid and buying Tips
Please advice me which one i can go for it , Apple's iOS4 make me to Move over to Android Lover.
Thanks,
Ram

Hi!
Is it a comparison of the iphone and Desire HD, or a comparison of the Desire HD and the Desire Z you are after?

As i mentioned in my post. I going to sell by iphone 3Gs and moving to androisd. Currently iam willing to by ethier HTC Desire HD and Z . I am not sure which is one is best

right ok:
Point 1
Desire Hd: 768mb RAM
Desire Z: 512mb RAM
Point 2
Desire Hd: 8mp camera/ 720p video recording
Desire Z: 5mp camera/ 720p video recording
Point 3
Desire Hd: 2nd generation qualcomm snapdragon processor clocked at 1Ghz
Desire Z: Qualcomm processor, clocked at 800mhz
Point 4
Desire Hd: 1280mAh battery
Desire Z: 1300 mAh battery
Point 5
Erm... We don't know yet! hopefully yes
And my recommendation? Go for the Desire HD! Unless you are desparate for a physical keyboard like the Desire z has, or dont like massive screens, the Desire HD has much better specs, and looks a lot nicer too...

I think you should also consider the general user experience. I also had a 3GS (and i loved it but i lost it), and i am now dying to have a DesireHD. I wait but i am not patient...
But testing a Google Nexus One, i realised that the experience was not so smooth, and a few things about Android made me a bit upset (like copy/paste and it looks the DesireHD has no trackpad, the tactile button just below the screens that you always mistakenly touch when you want to write a 'space', and the feeling that i had to push on the screen instead of just touching like on the iphone ).
But i still wait... at least to see if the tactile experience is better than the nexus one ! And the iphone is still much more expensive !

[Q] HTC desire z/g2 or HTC droid incredible?

Hey guys,
was just wondering if I can ask you guys which phone is better desire z/g2 or the htc droid incredible? please give me opinions, specs or overall choices. thanx

i think specs are pretty much the same cept the qwerty that the g2 has which, in my opinion, is what makes the difference in this case
also the looks i like the g2 look way much more than the droid inc

nonione said:
i think specs are pretty much the same cept the qwerty that the g2 has
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Nope, the Vision/G2/Desire Z has a newer generation Snapdragon CPU and GPU, which smokes the Incredible.
http://gizmodo.com/5633855/g2s-benchmarks-show-that-despite-processor-speed-it-should-be-fast
Unless the OP means the current generation Incredible 2 or Incredible S, which have slightly faster CPU clock, and more RAM than the Vision. The original Incredible is getting to be obsolete at this point, I'd look into one of these, if possible. Other differences between the Incred 2 or S, and the Vision, is the slightly larger screen (but no keyboard) and a better camera (8 MP versus 5MP).

[Q] Should I buy a Desire Z, Milestone 2 or Galaxy 551?

Good morning,
I'm looking for a mobile-phone with a physical QWERTY keyboard; running the android operating system.
So far I've found the HTC Desire Z (Vodafone/3), Samsung Galaxy 551 (Telstra) and the Motorola Milestone 2.
Which should I get? – Alternatively, can you recommend a different one I can buy from a shop in the city tomorrow?
Thanks for all suggestions,
Alec Taylor

If you haven't already, try these phones out in person before you pick. In particular, the Milestone 2 (Droid 2 in the US) feels really cheap and plasticky, and with a clunky keyboard, compared to the Desire Z. I'm not too familiar with the keyboard variant of the Galaxy S (although on carrier in the US has it, but not mine). But while the Galaxy S phones have very nice displays, their housing seem cheaper and lower quality than the Desire Z.

Without any doubts, the Desire Z / G2.
Best hardware, screen, keyboard, and it's very unlockable, you can use whatever rom you like, and do everything with your phone.
I know all of the devices and have a G2, and love it.
Though, i put in my mind that i want a 2d cellphone....

Thanks, I'm taking a look at the specs now...
=Samsung Galaxy 551=
Processor: 600Mhz
Camera quality: 3MP
Weight: 156g
Dimensions: 111.0 x 55.0 x 16.3mm
=HTC Desire Z=
Processor: 800Mhz
Camera quality: 5MP
Weight: 180g
Dimensions: 119mm x 60.4mm x 14.16mm
=Motorola Milestone 2=
Processor: 1Ghz
Camera quality: 5MP
Weight: 169g
Dimensions: 19mm x 60.4mm x 14.16mm
But you're saying the Desire Z will last longer because it's better built?
I remember trying the keyboard in a shop once, wasn't too impressed... (compared with my TouchPro2)

The SOC in Desire Z has a newer technology or something like this, that even with a lower processor speed it's better.
Another thing, is that Motorola roms are buggy, and the Milestone 2 is trapped in Froyo, and the DZ has Ginger 2.3.4. The T-Mobile G2 has a cleaner rom than the DZ, which is the one i have, and used root to remove a few apps that i don't have use in my country.
And as Desire Z is a Htc, it has a much better community, and no locks, or so easy to beat. You can root easily, and put the rom you want because of almost "no locks".
I had a Touch Pro2 before this G2, and the performance is so much better, far better than the TP2, and the keyboard is better too.

If your a geek and want sim unlock,root,any custom rom u want, engineering hboot,etc. Than the g2/dz is your only choice. Plus its got gorilla glass
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

He right. I did quite a bit of research b4 buying an Android phone. I came from the Motorola Cliq and man was it a good phone but the OEM restrictions was killing me. HTC Devices are notoriously open/rootable. Dont let the 800 MHz fool ya. It clocks the same speed as the 1GHz single-core processors, just uses less power while doing it. Funny enough it was manufacture designed to run at 1GHz anyways, they just underclocked it in default roms for battery life. Most of us rooted run it at around 1.0 to 1.2 anyways.
Like others mentioned, I liked the Samsung Galaxy S keyboard variation (Sprints Epic 4g). Screen is VERY GOOD looking but its stuck in android 2.2 still. Plus it feels cheap outside that screen clarity. Like same plastic U would fine in the play phones of the Toy/Baby section in a store. Moto infamous for leaving devices without updates. While Samsung well known for intentionally holding updates behind to push there new product instead.
Most important is S-Off so easy wit this phone, its ridiculous.
Look at the Development page and ull notice all the Roms are cutting edge and completely stable for this phone. Most officially supported, lol.
CyanogenMod 7.1
Muiu
Pure AOSP
Sense 3.5
TMobile Rom, just optimized and Prerooted.
Cant really ask for more.

also, the Galaxy 551 has a tiny 240x400 screen, are you cool with that?
I would go for the Desire-Z over ANY phone

Thanks
Due to your advice and others (as well as the Milestone 2 not being available in any Optus store) I have gone with the HTC Desire Z from Vodafone.
Another reason I went with the HTC is that the software seems to be much much better than anything the Milestone 2 could've provided, as well as being easily ROMable.

If u cld live without a keyboard htc amaze is the best but i say dz
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

AlecTaylor said:
But you're saying the Desire Z will last longer because it's better built?
I remember trying the keyboard in a shop once, wasn't too impressed... (compared with my TouchPro2)
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Desire Z will probably last longer, and it just feels better, with the aluminum and soft touch plastic body. Obviously much better build quality. If a phone feels cheap and crappy, its probably because it IS cheap and crappy. And that is how the Milestone2 feels.
Agree that the keyboard on the Desire Z is a bit of a step backward compared to the TP2, in terms of key spacing, key travel/action, and missing the top row of keys. But it still feels much better than the Milestone2. The Moto keyboards just feel cheap and inferior.

Agree that the keyboard on the Desire Z is a bit of a step backward compared to the TP2
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Every keyboard on every other cell phone since the TP2 is a step backward from the TP2!!

Don't pick Milestone, it's too big in hand and makes uncomfortable.
Samsung phone with a keyboard is not as good as HTC series, especially this Desire Z is one of the best in rare HTC phones with keyboard. And Desire looks super!
So my suggestion is to Desire Z

Thanks all, I had purchased the Desire Z on Saturday.
Glad to hear it still rates #1 :]

You can tell by my username what I think, lol.
HTC Vision(G2), meXdroidmod Ghost Chili AIO.

Congratulations!
You are gonna love this

the ONLY thing i wish my [email protected] had was a front facing camera. But I'll live. if you can live w/o it too then get the G2.

Milestone 2 : not very popular, hard to find parts and good roms.
Samsung : slow and low resolution.
G2: still a fast and good phone on the actual market. Overclock up to 2.0 ghz or 1.5 ghz stable.
What about GPU? Maybe take a look on wikipedia. If I remember, G2 has Adreno 205, witch is not that bad for the year.

Bought another phone with keyboard

Just bought an HTC desire Z with android 2.3.3 (stock).
It's like 10-20 times faster than my old dream. 160MB free ram with Sense (Without it will be better). The difference is really so awesome, no need for a dual core phone at all !
I'm keeping the G1 for experiments (IP camera, ...).
The keyboard from the G1 is still better than on the desire Z.

robuser007 said:
Just bought an HTC desire Z with android 2.3.3 (stock).
It's like 10-20 times faster than my old dream.
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It's a far newer phone with much better specification... But good choice, it is a damn sexy device .

And also expensive as hell...
Hope it's worth it and good luck with the new phone
And as for me, i just resurrected my G1, ITS ALLIIIVEE

[Q] Its upgrade time! Help me decide...

Due for an upgrade - been holding out for the HTC Desire Z as I love my keyboard, but have been offered the HTC Desire S.
I want some feedback in helping me decide...
Do you have a Desire Z? Is it aw awesome as it looks?
If you had the same choice, which would you choose?

Right now, neither.

i am using the desire z as my main phone now and it is a very good phone. the hardware keyboard is working fine and the hinge problem isn't such a problem as everybody says.
But...
if i would buy a new phone now it wouldn't be a desire z or a desire s. i would go for a phone with more power like the SG II. Don't get me wrong, the desire z is a awesome phone, but it lacks at raw power nowadays.
hope it helped

dz is kinda dying... people (talking about me) buy dz and overclock it, becausse its getting kinda slow (relatively to other phones)
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I'm a 9gagger, if you are one... pm me

Get something with at least 1.5ghz+ to see something with moderate improvement over the DZ/DS. The era of ~1GHz phones is going to get phased out eventually when the devs are moving on to what is hot.
In Jan 2012 right now, that'd be the HTC/Tmobile Amaze, SGS2, Or the Optimus 4G, but dev support for that is limited.
I wouldn't pick either Desire Z or Desire S unless I knew I was going to get a good resale value. They're both pretty much the same hardware-wise.

Thanks
Thanks guys, but now I am confused.
I need a phone with a qwerty keyboard - are there any other, better, alternatives?

It is all subjective by what you mean is 'better'.
Yeah, there are a few out there:
- Motorola Milesone/Droid 4 : Dual 1.2Ghz, PowerVR SGX540, 1GB RAM
- HTC/Tmobile MyTouch 4g Slide: Dual 1.2Ghz, Adreno 220, 768MB RAM
- Samsung Captivate Glide: Dual 1.0Ghz, Tegra 2, 1GB RAM
Are they better than a Desire Z speedwise? Marginally, I don't think most of us will notice the mhz difference especially if we overclock the DesireZ which most roms do to ~1.0Ghz.
If you need more RAM for what you're doing, then it's definitely better. However if you ask which is better development wise? It's just left to the Desire Z and Mytouch4G now.

LadyUK said:
I need a phone with a qwerty keyboard - are there any other, better, alternatives?
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It depends on what you want to use it for.
If it just making phones calls, listening to music, writing e-mail and playing games then the Desire Z will be good enough for you (or alternatively Motorola Milestone 2).
Getting a dual core phone is not essential if you just want to do the above. On this forum, we like our specs. So in our eyes the better the specs, the more impress we are. But if you just want something practical and functional, then the Desire Z will be good enough for you.
As a Desire Z user, I'm happy with my phone and there isn't a phone out there at this point of time that is a worthy successor to it.

LadyUK said:
Thanks guys, but now I am confused.
I need a phone with a qwerty keyboard - are there any other, better, alternatives?
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I agree with the previous poster... I've been using the G2/DZ for a year now and it still runs brilliantly (in part due to the fantastic ROM I'm running, ILWT CM7). I actually just bought the HTC Sensation for a family member. I rooted it and flashed a custom ROM... so I've spent some time with it, and I can say that despite the Sensation's Dual Core 1.2GHz processor, my G2 seemingly runs just as fast and smoothly (my G2 is overclocked just a bit at 1.1GHz). This is to say that I would still recommend this device to someone who was interested in a hard keyboard. It's been the most dependable phone I've owned to date.

I agree with others, had the desire, the desire hd and now i got the z with the weakest cpu. But if you're writing a lot it's very nice, i can write nearly bling with the keyboard meanwhile. I'm using ilwt-rom and it's much faster than the desire hd with sense. But if u got the decision, i'd advice you the galaxy s2 or the galaxy s plus because of amoled and the better batteryperformance. Bought a mugenakku for 30€/45$ and i'm very happy with my phone now. I think i'm gonna use until it won't work anymore. For the dailystuff eg youtube/sms/whatsapp and other stuff it's enough and very fast in my opinion. If you would like to play with your phone you should take the galaxy s2.
All in all it's the perfect phone to me
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

The Desire Z is a great phone! I've had mine about a year and while I was tempted inially when the Sensation came out, the lack of a hw keyboard made me think twice.
DZ has a few limitations, though. It has no front camera, which is not a deal breaker for me but would have been nice.
It has 512 MB RAM. If you're planning to root it and run a custom ROM based on Sense 3.0/3.5 I would recommend another phone with at least 768 MB RAM.
Sense is just too memory-heavy for DZ to run it smoothly and fast. Eventually you will have apps that you want to keep running falling out of memory, maybe soft reboots and hang ups all around.
It does run AOSP based ROMs perfectly well, be it CM, MIUI or other.
I love my DZ and will probably keep it at least until fall running some ICS ROM.
If hw keyboard is important to you it's a no-brainer.

The Desire Z is a great QWERTY entry level phone even if it has old specs. I still have it since it came out. It has great support from the Dev community as well