[Q] Its upgrade time! Help me decide... - G2 and Desire Z General

Due for an upgrade - been holding out for the HTC Desire Z as I love my keyboard, but have been offered the HTC Desire S.
I want some feedback in helping me decide...
Do you have a Desire Z? Is it aw awesome as it looks?
If you had the same choice, which would you choose?

Right now, neither.

i am using the desire z as my main phone now and it is a very good phone. the hardware keyboard is working fine and the hinge problem isn't such a problem as everybody says.
But...
if i would buy a new phone now it wouldn't be a desire z or a desire s. i would go for a phone with more power like the SG II. Don't get me wrong, the desire z is a awesome phone, but it lacks at raw power nowadays.
hope it helped

dz is kinda dying... people (talking about me) buy dz and overclock it, becausse its getting kinda slow (relatively to other phones)
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I'm a 9gagger, if you are one... pm me

Get something with at least 1.5ghz+ to see something with moderate improvement over the DZ/DS. The era of ~1GHz phones is going to get phased out eventually when the devs are moving on to what is hot.
In Jan 2012 right now, that'd be the HTC/Tmobile Amaze, SGS2, Or the Optimus 4G, but dev support for that is limited.
I wouldn't pick either Desire Z or Desire S unless I knew I was going to get a good resale value. They're both pretty much the same hardware-wise.

Thanks
Thanks guys, but now I am confused.
I need a phone with a qwerty keyboard - are there any other, better, alternatives?

It is all subjective by what you mean is 'better'.
Yeah, there are a few out there:
- Motorola Milesone/Droid 4 : Dual 1.2Ghz, PowerVR SGX540, 1GB RAM
- HTC/Tmobile MyTouch 4g Slide: Dual 1.2Ghz, Adreno 220, 768MB RAM
- Samsung Captivate Glide: Dual 1.0Ghz, Tegra 2, 1GB RAM
Are they better than a Desire Z speedwise? Marginally, I don't think most of us will notice the mhz difference especially if we overclock the DesireZ which most roms do to ~1.0Ghz.
If you need more RAM for what you're doing, then it's definitely better. However if you ask which is better development wise? It's just left to the Desire Z and Mytouch4G now.

LadyUK said:
I need a phone with a qwerty keyboard - are there any other, better, alternatives?
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It depends on what you want to use it for.
If it just making phones calls, listening to music, writing e-mail and playing games then the Desire Z will be good enough for you (or alternatively Motorola Milestone 2).
Getting a dual core phone is not essential if you just want to do the above. On this forum, we like our specs. So in our eyes the better the specs, the more impress we are. But if you just want something practical and functional, then the Desire Z will be good enough for you.
As a Desire Z user, I'm happy with my phone and there isn't a phone out there at this point of time that is a worthy successor to it.

LadyUK said:
Thanks guys, but now I am confused.
I need a phone with a qwerty keyboard - are there any other, better, alternatives?
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I agree with the previous poster... I've been using the G2/DZ for a year now and it still runs brilliantly (in part due to the fantastic ROM I'm running, ILWT CM7). I actually just bought the HTC Sensation for a family member. I rooted it and flashed a custom ROM... so I've spent some time with it, and I can say that despite the Sensation's Dual Core 1.2GHz processor, my G2 seemingly runs just as fast and smoothly (my G2 is overclocked just a bit at 1.1GHz). This is to say that I would still recommend this device to someone who was interested in a hard keyboard. It's been the most dependable phone I've owned to date.

I agree with others, had the desire, the desire hd and now i got the z with the weakest cpu. But if you're writing a lot it's very nice, i can write nearly bling with the keyboard meanwhile. I'm using ilwt-rom and it's much faster than the desire hd with sense. But if u got the decision, i'd advice you the galaxy s2 or the galaxy s plus because of amoled and the better batteryperformance. Bought a mugenakku for 30€/45$ and i'm very happy with my phone now. I think i'm gonna use until it won't work anymore. For the dailystuff eg youtube/sms/whatsapp and other stuff it's enough and very fast in my opinion. If you would like to play with your phone you should take the galaxy s2.
All in all it's the perfect phone to me
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The Desire Z is a great phone! I've had mine about a year and while I was tempted inially when the Sensation came out, the lack of a hw keyboard made me think twice.
DZ has a few limitations, though. It has no front camera, which is not a deal breaker for me but would have been nice.
It has 512 MB RAM. If you're planning to root it and run a custom ROM based on Sense 3.0/3.5 I would recommend another phone with at least 768 MB RAM.
Sense is just too memory-heavy for DZ to run it smoothly and fast. Eventually you will have apps that you want to keep running falling out of memory, maybe soft reboots and hang ups all around.
It does run AOSP based ROMs perfectly well, be it CM, MIUI or other.
I love my DZ and will probably keep it at least until fall running some ICS ROM.
If hw keyboard is important to you it's a no-brainer.

The Desire Z is a great QWERTY entry level phone even if it has old specs. I still have it since it came out. It has great support from the Dev community as well

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[Q] Thinking of moving fro captivate to a Desire Z/G2

I'm thinking about selling my Captivate for a Desire Z/G2
cause swype though its awesome is sometimes really annoying to use when I'm on chat or editing documents on the go.... i do lots of typing
convince me....
Pros and Cons of moving from captivate
Pros:
Physical Keyboard
same resolution (800x480)
Native Froyo without screwing with custom ROMs
GPS that works
Cons
3.7" screen
Not a Super-Amoled screen
less powerful SoC
Lol I think your own pros outweigh the cons already. My friend is using a captivate that he had me root it the other day and I gotta say that there's a huge difference in overall feel. When you tweak the g2/vision/dz (whatever you wanna call it) it feels buttery smooth. Even though it already was pretty smooth on stock.
Recently I switched to de-odexed stock which looks and feels like stock but gives me a little boost in speed. I have to say I am a big fan of the developer work that has gone into maximizing this phones potential without totally making it feel like something different than what htc intended. Other than software optimization, the physical feel is pretty solid. Its a bit heavy but the hardware inside makes it well worth it. Not trying to bash other devices but I feel the g2/vision/dz is not only a great device but in some aspects, it sets the bar for todays smartphone.
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My G2 gets much better battery life than my sister-in-law's Vibrant. I average two days of moderately heavy use. She barely ekes out one.
Not sure how the Adreno 205 stacks up to the Hummingbird's GPU, but I never experience lag in Dungeon Defenders.
Build quality is better on the G2 as well.
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dietotherhythm said:
Lol I think your own pros outweigh the cons already. My friend is using a captivate that he had me root it the other day and I gotta say that there's a huge difference in overall feel. When you tweak the g2/vision/dz (whatever you wanna call it) it feels buttery smooth. Even though it already was pretty smooth on stock.
Recently I switched to de-odexed stock which looks and feels like stock but gives me a little boost in speed. I have to say I am a big fan of the developer work that has gone into maximizing this phones potential without totally making it feel like something different than what htc intended. Other than software optimization, the physical feel is pretty solid. Its a bit heavy but the hardware inside makes it well worth it. Not trying to bash other devices but I feel the g2/vision/dz is not only a great device but in some aspects, it sets the bar for todays smartphone.
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how about overclocking and such? i've heard you can do it for the desire?
how is the screen and such? The keyboard is mainly the main reason that i'm kinda looking for this downgrade
thepaddedroom said:
My G2 gets much better battery life than my sister-in-law's Vibrant. I average two days of moderately heavy use. She barely ekes out one.
Not sure how the Adreno 205 stacks up to the Hummingbird's GPU, but I never experience lag in Dungeon Defenders.
Build quality is better on the G2 as well.
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is the SoC inside the HTC desire z/G2 the same as in the Desire HD?
thanks all
well most every device has overclock development but the g2/dz has the highest overclock capability yeet.
It's stock 800mhz but it's a second generation processor which blows away all the first gen 1ghz before it. I have the 1.8ghz kernel currently so I am capable of that much but only use it when doing heavy work loads or testing stability. I also wrote a guide to flashing the 1.8ghz and 1.9ghz overclocking kernels for people who are new to adb in general. Some users have even been able to hit a solid 2.0ghz, most everything over 1.8ghz is much too unstable for regular use.
Hey,
Just wanted to chime in; my friend has the Vibrant and is constantly complaining about the lack of working gps. It's a function that all Vibrant/Captivate/Fascinate owners bought but is lacking whether it be due to software or hardware. He is flashing a new "improved" rom every 2-3 days trying to find the perfect one that will give him good reception/gps.
With the DZ/Vision/G2, the only real con is the "loose" hinge. IMO, it's not that loose on mine but as with anything, you're mileage may vary. As it was stated before, the DZ/Vision/G2 has the second generation Snapdragon, which is clocked lower than the first generation 1GHz, but is much better in the power-to-performance ratio. I wouldn't be turned off by the 800MHz because once you have root and all that jazz, you can easily overclock to that 1GHz level at the minimum. I am sure once you get to that point, you will blow any Hummingbird equipped phone out of the water.
You really can't beat the physical keyboard either
Regards.
Mr.Pie[OCN] said:
is the SoC inside the HTC desire z/G2 the same as in the Desire HD?
thanks all
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Desire HD has the same Adreno 205 GPU and basically a overclocked version of our CPU. The CPU difference doesnt matter though since you can overclock the Desire Z/G2 easily. At the same cpu frequencies they perform similarly. The Desire HD does have more RAM though.
The only advantages of a Captivate over the Desire Z/G2:
GPU: PowerVR SGX540 is a absolute beast, still the best GPU out there right now imo. Just look at the benchmarks of the Nexus S.
Screen: SAMOLED
I recently sold (or am selling, it's on ebay now) my Vibrant for a G2 and I am very please. Like you I do a lot of typing and there's simply no substitute for a physical keyboard. The G2 is just as snappy as my Vibrant was (rooted with Bionix), but I do notice a slight decrease in graphics quality in games, but probably only noticeable because I used the two phones back to back for a short time. I saw go for it.
G2. The mytouch4g is nice as well. I have both.
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get the G2 man depending on what rom you have (if any) you can get excellent battery life. it took me hours to kill the battery with high brightness settings, music use, web use, and gps on. the physical keyboard is just great for typing a lot and for simple replies you can use swype. overall it's a reliable phone
I'm contemplating on the exact same thing, EXCEPT...
1) I can't justify paying 560-ish for the desire z,
2) G2 is $440, but I will be restricted to 2G since I'm stuck on ATT for various reasons.
I was trying to read around but I couldn't really find exact answers to my queries; maybe some of you might know.
Over 2G, will I still be able to send MMS on the G2? I noticed on my captivate, whenever I send pictures that are 1200 kb, the phone automatically downsizes them to about 88kb or so before sending. Will pictures even send at all on edge?
Without 3G, will it affect aGPS?
Other than that, I never even use my phone for browsing or streaming over 3G. Should I settle for a G2 or just suck it up and pay for a Desire Z?
I'd recommend saving up a little more and spending it on the desire z and/or waiting it out for a good deal. Paying over 20 dollars a month for edge simply isn't worth it.
Hey,
You should look at some of the used markets in your area. I know there are some DZ/G2's for sale around my area (Canada) for about $400CAD. These are naturally locked but you could always sim unlock it yourself for free.

[Q] it makes sense to buy the desire z now?!

Hi all, I'm not new in the android world.
I had a t-mobile htc g1 that now is borken, I don't know if I should buy now an htc desire z for 220€ or if I should wait some time.
I know that android ice-cream will be available in october-november, so I'm afraid that the old terminal will be devalued, and I'm afraid about the compatibilities of android 4.0 with the htc desire Z.
The desire Z is beautiful, but the specifications are not excellent for the standard of this days (no dual core, "only" 512mb of ram, not really good camera).
I love olso myTouch4g slide, cause it have the specifications of a new phone (dual core, 768mb of ram) and the keyboard.
The problem of MT4Gs is the keyboard, that is said is not good.. droid 3 have the problem of the ram (only 512 for a dual core), of the software (motorblur..) and the screen that is a simple LCD (the minor problem).
So my question is:
1) Wait for new devices after the launching of android 4.0 or bu now a device?
2) Desire z will be updated to android 4.0?
3) If I decide to buy now a device, what to buy?? (Desire z vs mytouch4g slide vs droid3)
(I'm Italian, but I can buy droid3/MT4GS from the USA on ebay and use in europe)
Thanks
nagash91 said:
Hi all, I'm not new in the android world.
I had a t-mobile htc g1 that now is borken, I don't know if I should buy now an htc desire z for 220€ or if I should wait some time.
I know that android ice-cream will be available in october-november, so I'm afraid that the old terminal will be devalued, and I'm afraid about the compatibilities of android 4.0 with the htc desire Z.
The desire Z is beautiful, but the specifications are not excellent for the standard of this days (no dual core, "only" 512mb of ram, not really good camera).
I love olso myTouch4g slide, cause it have the specifications of a new phone (dual core, 768mb of ram) and the keyboard.
The problem of MT4Gs is the keyboard, that is said is not good.. droid 3 have the problem of the ram (only 512 for a dual core), of the software (motorblur..) and the screen that is a simple LCD (the minor problem).
So my question is:
1) Wait for new devices after the launching of android 4.0 or bu now a device?
2) Desire z will be updated to android 4.0?
3) If I decide to buy now a device, what to buy?? (Desire z vs mytouch4g slide vs droid3)
(I'm Italian, but I can buy droid3/MT4GS from the USA on ebay and use in europe)
Thanks
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1) well youu can get some of the newer devices now because they will probably be upgradable to ics
2) most likley not. But the community will port it anyways and you will soon find tons of roms wjith ics as the base
3) i would say droid 3 is the best. it has pretty good specs and its design looks good. The mt4g looks real bad. If you dont **** motoblur, then you can just flash another rom. Also it only has 512mb of ram because the motoblur skin is pretty lightweight.
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1) well youu can get some of the newer devices now because they will probably be upgradable to ics
2) most likley not. But the community will port it anyways and you will soon find tons of roms wjith ics as the base
3) i would say droid 3 is the best. it has pretty good specs and its design looks good. The mt4g looks real bad. If you dont **** motoblur, then you can just flash another rom. Also it only has 512mb of ram because the motoblur skin is pretty lightweight.
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I hope that ics will not need of more ram and CPU/GPU to run smoothly... :\
The problem of droid 3 is the ram. The only better thing of droid 3 is the CPU dual core.. it really feels the need of a dual core??
The desireZ keyboard is perfect, droid 3 is perfect too but in another way.
Droid 3 screen is bigger and have more resolution, but is tft..
So droid 3 has better processor, screen (but tft) and camera but no sense (before a good port of sense we have to wait a lot I think)
MT4Gs has better processor, perfect camera(!!), more ram, but worse qwerty.. that is important for a qwerty device. (and yes, is ugly... it seems a toy )
And desire Z is cheaper 220€ is good for a new desire z, I think.
I'm afraid about possible desire z successor with the coming of android Ics, (new htc device with qwerty + dual core + 1gb ram) but in the last years HTC seems slow to release devices with slide qwerty for the global market (I remember only dream/g1, desireZ/g2, and the USA myTouch xG Slide ).
If I buy desire Z and after 1 or 2 month HTC release a new qwerty device, I'll hate HTC for ever
I would think you could get one cheaper than that
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Hi, i have DZ now, i get it from amazon for 498 and month after that was 400. Y really like Fisical keyborad devices and i recomend Driod 3 i like that. Otherwise i like HTC and HTC sense i am testing now sense 3.5 rom from htc bliss in my z. i will keep my z until HT releases another fisical keyborad device or i will buy HTC sensation or evo 3D, dual core, 768 and 1g of ram.
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I would think you could get one cheaper than that
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Less than 200€ is hard to find here
180€ would be perfect, but 10 month ago it was 550€..
myTouch 4G Slide is a great device (and I don't just say that because I own it!).
The keyboard is better than the G2/Desire-Z's, at least for me. The keys are just a little bit smaller, but farther apart and I can type way faster/more accurately than on the G2. I always hit too many keys at once on the G2/Desire-Z.
And the hardware Android keys on the MT4GSlide are great!

[Q] Should I buy a Desire Z, Milestone 2 or Galaxy 551?

Good morning,
I'm looking for a mobile-phone with a physical QWERTY keyboard; running the android operating system.
So far I've found the HTC Desire Z (Vodafone/3), Samsung Galaxy 551 (Telstra) and the Motorola Milestone 2.
Which should I get? – Alternatively, can you recommend a different one I can buy from a shop in the city tomorrow?
Thanks for all suggestions,
Alec Taylor
If you haven't already, try these phones out in person before you pick. In particular, the Milestone 2 (Droid 2 in the US) feels really cheap and plasticky, and with a clunky keyboard, compared to the Desire Z. I'm not too familiar with the keyboard variant of the Galaxy S (although on carrier in the US has it, but not mine). But while the Galaxy S phones have very nice displays, their housing seem cheaper and lower quality than the Desire Z.
Without any doubts, the Desire Z / G2.
Best hardware, screen, keyboard, and it's very unlockable, you can use whatever rom you like, and do everything with your phone.
I know all of the devices and have a G2, and love it.
Though, i put in my mind that i want a 2d cellphone....
Thanks, I'm taking a look at the specs now...
=Samsung Galaxy 551=
Processor: 600Mhz
Camera quality: 3MP
Weight: 156g
Dimensions: 111.0 x 55.0 x 16.3mm
=HTC Desire Z=
Processor: 800Mhz
Camera quality: 5MP
Weight: 180g
Dimensions: 119mm x 60.4mm x 14.16mm
=Motorola Milestone 2=
Processor: 1Ghz
Camera quality: 5MP
Weight: 169g
Dimensions: 19mm x 60.4mm x 14.16mm
But you're saying the Desire Z will last longer because it's better built?
I remember trying the keyboard in a shop once, wasn't too impressed... (compared with my TouchPro2)
The SOC in Desire Z has a newer technology or something like this, that even with a lower processor speed it's better.
Another thing, is that Motorola roms are buggy, and the Milestone 2 is trapped in Froyo, and the DZ has Ginger 2.3.4. The T-Mobile G2 has a cleaner rom than the DZ, which is the one i have, and used root to remove a few apps that i don't have use in my country.
And as Desire Z is a Htc, it has a much better community, and no locks, or so easy to beat. You can root easily, and put the rom you want because of almost "no locks".
I had a Touch Pro2 before this G2, and the performance is so much better, far better than the TP2, and the keyboard is better too.
If your a geek and want sim unlock,root,any custom rom u want, engineering hboot,etc. Than the g2/dz is your only choice. Plus its got gorilla glass
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He right. I did quite a bit of research b4 buying an Android phone. I came from the Motorola Cliq and man was it a good phone but the OEM restrictions was killing me. HTC Devices are notoriously open/rootable. Dont let the 800 MHz fool ya. It clocks the same speed as the 1GHz single-core processors, just uses less power while doing it. Funny enough it was manufacture designed to run at 1GHz anyways, they just underclocked it in default roms for battery life. Most of us rooted run it at around 1.0 to 1.2 anyways.
Like others mentioned, I liked the Samsung Galaxy S keyboard variation (Sprints Epic 4g). Screen is VERY GOOD looking but its stuck in android 2.2 still. Plus it feels cheap outside that screen clarity. Like same plastic U would fine in the play phones of the Toy/Baby section in a store. Moto infamous for leaving devices without updates. While Samsung well known for intentionally holding updates behind to push there new product instead.
Most important is S-Off so easy wit this phone, its ridiculous.
Look at the Development page and ull notice all the Roms are cutting edge and completely stable for this phone. Most officially supported, lol.
CyanogenMod 7.1
Muiu
Pure AOSP
Sense 3.5
TMobile Rom, just optimized and Prerooted.
Cant really ask for more.
also, the Galaxy 551 has a tiny 240x400 screen, are you cool with that?
I would go for the Desire-Z over ANY phone
Thanks
Due to your advice and others (as well as the Milestone 2 not being available in any Optus store) I have gone with the HTC Desire Z from Vodafone.
Another reason I went with the HTC is that the software seems to be much much better than anything the Milestone 2 could've provided, as well as being easily ROMable.
If u cld live without a keyboard htc amaze is the best but i say dz
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AlecTaylor said:
But you're saying the Desire Z will last longer because it's better built?
I remember trying the keyboard in a shop once, wasn't too impressed... (compared with my TouchPro2)
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Desire Z will probably last longer, and it just feels better, with the aluminum and soft touch plastic body. Obviously much better build quality. If a phone feels cheap and crappy, its probably because it IS cheap and crappy. And that is how the Milestone2 feels.
Agree that the keyboard on the Desire Z is a bit of a step backward compared to the TP2, in terms of key spacing, key travel/action, and missing the top row of keys. But it still feels much better than the Milestone2. The Moto keyboards just feel cheap and inferior.
Agree that the keyboard on the Desire Z is a bit of a step backward compared to the TP2
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Every keyboard on every other cell phone since the TP2 is a step backward from the TP2!!
Don't pick Milestone, it's too big in hand and makes uncomfortable.
Samsung phone with a keyboard is not as good as HTC series, especially this Desire Z is one of the best in rare HTC phones with keyboard. And Desire looks super!
So my suggestion is to Desire Z
Thanks all, I had purchased the Desire Z on Saturday.
Glad to hear it still rates #1 :]
You can tell by my username what I think, lol.
HTC Vision(G2), meXdroidmod Ghost Chili AIO.
Congratulations!
You are gonna love this
the ONLY thing i wish my [email protected] had was a front facing camera. But I'll live. if you can live w/o it too then get the G2.
Milestone 2 : not very popular, hard to find parts and good roms.
Samsung : slow and low resolution.
G2: still a fast and good phone on the actual market. Overclock up to 2.0 ghz or 1.5 ghz stable.
What about GPU? Maybe take a look on wikipedia. If I remember, G2 has Adreno 205, witch is not that bad for the year.

Why is the Desire Z so worthless?

I want a HTC Sensation XE but have like a year left on my contract, so I thought about selling my DZ and buying the SXE pay as you go, but the DZ has dropped so much in value now
It's a nice phone, but there are loads on eBay and hardly anybody bidding on them. This is the problem with so many Android phones being released all the time I think...
Do you think I would be able to give T-Mobile a ring, and do some sort of trade-in with them? i.e. send in my DZ, and pay extra on top to start my new contract again with a SXE?
My friend did something similar to upgrade his iPhone on o2 but I don't know if that's an o2/iPhone thing only...
Thanks
Honestly I don't know as I think its a brilliant phone. I do like having the hardware QWERTY keyboard though. It was really overlooked by the then flagship Desire HD and yes, the amount of Android phones out there probably has a massive effect on the resale price.
For a quick sale you could do Envirofone or Mazuma which are showing about £100. Amazon is showing them about £280 new so you probably wont get much higher.
Craig
I think the desire z is underestimated.
Most people look at the hinge issue and the 800mhz, and then decide for another phone.
- But the hinge issue is not so big.
If anything, it is good that it is so easy to switch to the keyboard with not much hassle.
- The 800mhz of the second generation processor is faster then an 1ghz first generation processor, and at the moment it is even underclocked by htc. So it has much more power under its shell.
- It has dedicated camera button
- An easy to open battery lid
- Good speakers
- Good Headset
- Very good Music Quality
- Touchpad
- Led flash
- Good sized display with high resolution and ppi
- Hardware keyboard
- Very fast adreno205gpu (4x faster then the adreno200gpu)
- 512mb ram
- 1.5gb rom
- Android with Sense
- Good voice quality
- 5mp Camera with HD recording (videos that i made with it*)
- Very good battery duration (even more with incredible-s battery)
- MicroSD Card Slot that holds up to 64gb at the moment
- Fast UMTS/HSDPA+ (14,4down / 5,76up)
and so on...
What more could one want?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muAmaHyBBNk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5bCx5rKOTU
have to say agree with above post, dont plan on changing anytime soon, phone does what I want and as of yet nothing tickles my fancy, solid phone with plenty options to keep it current, life in this old dog yet
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I have to agree too.
It's a really underestimated phone. The QUERTY/Z (german) keyboard is the reason why I bought it a half year ago and up to now, I wouldn't buy another phone. I just love it^^.
And when you root it, you can easily overklock it to 1,2 ghz or higher and it still runs very, very stable.
Minimal theme.
O'clock 1.2GHZ
Cyanogenmod 7.1
Good enough for me. Did the hinge fix, and left sd, battery stock. With brightness all the way to min and juicebatterysaver, battery lasts forever. =)
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I don't consider myself a "consumer"
Others seem to fall prey to the, "its the 'latest' newest, oh shiniest"
Not me. Although I use my macbook pro, and sony a300 for computing and photo needs, this phone is good for what I need.
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I've accepted the fact that I'll most likely not sell my g2 as by the time I upgrade to something new it'll be maybe a $100 phone, if that. The more new gen phones that are released the more the g2 will decrease in value. It's already starting to happen with the sensation, look on ebay. The sensation used to sell for over $400 on ebay but lately it's only been around $300, mainly because everybody wants the amaze and gsII now. Yes, the g2 is a really good phone but it's over a year old now, which is ancient for tech.
Don't get me wrong, like the rest of you I love my phone, at 1.2 ghz it's just as fast as a stock sensation, if not faster.
The Desire Z is an good phone. Though it would have been better if it had more ram
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768 ram would be perfect!
but desire z is a vfm headset!
love it
wow htc dz/g2 is really underestimated. nothing more convenient to me than an option to switch from visual to physical keyboard. the 800mhz cpu is underclocked tho. i am running 1.1ghz and it works like what a smartphone supposed to work.
Yeah, my friends htc incredibles are all glitchy and battery drains. My G2 is never let me down, now that I rooted it and put cm7.1 on it I am happier than before.
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My desire Z means a lot to me. i don't think i will sell it and get another one.
You may try post you cellphone here and see if any people in this forum will buy it for some other uses
Why is the Desire Z so worthless?
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Worthless? WTF? What are you smokin?
You are damn lucky to find a new one on ebay for less than $350, I would call that amazing resale value for a phone that is over a year old.
Like any great phone, if you kept it in great condition, it is still worth a lot, on the other hand, if you beat yours to hell and back, then maybe not so much!
I'm quite satisfied with my desire z. I rooted it the first day I got it, and flashed CM7(don't care for sense). I have it running at 1113 mhz, along with juicedefender, the phone then runs smooth, without hogging the battery.
I love the flip out keyboard, but I see the problem with it sliding out in the pocket. As a solution I've bought a pouch for it, which also comes in handy since I have ditched my wallet, and now carry all my cards in the pouch as well.
Only downside is, if I lose my phone, i'm pretty much screwed.
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d_gkal said:
768 ram would be perfect!
but desire z is a vfm headset!
love it
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768 MB is a little on the lower side. To run multiple apps like Firefox when you have sense, 1GB would be more adequate.
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love this phone... couldn't live without it...
now leave britney alone!
Oh, don't get me wrong I love my DZ, but I feel like upgrading...
The XE is a dual core 1.5GHz so should easily last 1.5-2 years without falling behind, and also, if it's been rooted, it can be under clocked to 1GHz dual core or even less (800MHz dual core) which would still make it quick and improve battery life a lot which is very important (to be fair, I do charge it every night anyway but it can just last two on one charge with my DZ already with light use)
Also, I use it for a few hours every day on the way to/from work listening to music so the enhanced audio is a big plus for me (although still need to read up and make sure it really is a big improvement) and it looks really nice too. Plus, the hardware keyboard isn't much of a deal breaker any more...it was at first, but now I just use Swype all of the time
By worthless, I just mean it seems to have lost a lot of value compared to the price of a new phone (I was thinking about just selling my DZ, and buying the SE pay as you go and keeping my contract)
Decisions, decisions!
At the current pace, ALL phones depreciate value very quickly. End of discussion.
the G2/Desire-Z have held a higher % or their original value after over a year than any phone I can think of, they still command about 70% of the launch price for new ones on ebay - WOW!
so I would call it the far end of the "worthless" scale, all other phones of similar age are MORE worthless!!
and the reason for such high resale value is, people have realized what a great phone they are, the last phone before the manufacturer's really started cheaping out, what other phone combines great looks, style, reliability and speed and has a GREAT keyboard? - answer me that, and I will upgrade my G2 - the problem is, there are none!

i miss my DHD

last week my friend came from france and brought me a Sensation and I sold my DHD. thinking i would appreciate the Sensation more but I really do miss my DHD. I had my DHD setup perfect and everything was working just fine, i just wanted a phone with a secondary camera.
Anyways, I rooted my sensation but most of the custom ROMs are sense based and there aren't many CM7 based ROMs. I was running black ice on my DHD and I loved it. Now the only ROM made for the Sensation by Alien Mind is a ICS Sense based rom. I tried flashing it to see how it is and I really don't like HTC sense. Now i'm running HyperSensation, CM7 based rom, and have my phone setup very similar to my DHD but I am having GPS issues! I am trying to sort it out and that's the only thing that's bugging me. My DHD was perfect! :end rant:
It's always nice to stay current and have the best item out but when you have been soo attached and had your current belonging set up to the way you want it. IMO the dual core is hype, my DHD compared to the sensation feels the same.
I agree with you, DHD is such a perfect device even after it is over a year old. At one time I do want a Sensation because it is a hype device (especially with its dual core processor, secondary cam, etc), but when I compared it with my DHD, I did not see anything urgent to finally make me want to spend my savings in order to get the Sensation. Dual core processor is only such a gimmick, because I did not felt any differences between dual core and single core, especially for casual uses. My favourite HD games such as Asphalt 6, 9MM HD, GTAIII, and LetsGolf series also runs very well on my DHD.
i agree with u swift and motherninja... and hi motherninja i'm from Indonesia tooo...nice too meet u here...
cool! we are in the same region, a couple hours away on a plane I live in Cambodia
I agree with you it's a perfect device, when you have root acces you have many options and ROMS.
yes OS speed the DHD is as fast but the GPU on sensation is way ahead, I like playing 3D games and the DHD doesn't come close, I have both phones
I think the DHD still has a long life ahead of it; its due to be receiving the ICS upgrade.
You can still buy one relatively cheap on eBay as a backup phone
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I bought evo 3d, and was thinking to sell dhd, evo's from asda are bad phones, they switch off itself, decide to return evo, will stick with dhd another while...
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I was thinking about upgrading my DHD to Sensation but I think I have to reconsider...
Thanks for the info.
With the new roms in development especially the ice cream sandwich based roms, I think I'll be holding onto my DHD for a while longer too.
sensation=pants
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True, only thing is the battery time but I can always buy a battery that lasts longer. And with the CM9 ROMs coming soon, I will keep my DHD even longer, + ICS with Sense - I hope it`s good.

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