Why is the Desire Z so worthless? - G2 and Desire Z General

I want a HTC Sensation XE but have like a year left on my contract, so I thought about selling my DZ and buying the SXE pay as you go, but the DZ has dropped so much in value now
It's a nice phone, but there are loads on eBay and hardly anybody bidding on them. This is the problem with so many Android phones being released all the time I think...
Do you think I would be able to give T-Mobile a ring, and do some sort of trade-in with them? i.e. send in my DZ, and pay extra on top to start my new contract again with a SXE?
My friend did something similar to upgrade his iPhone on o2 but I don't know if that's an o2/iPhone thing only...
Thanks

Honestly I don't know as I think its a brilliant phone. I do like having the hardware QWERTY keyboard though. It was really overlooked by the then flagship Desire HD and yes, the amount of Android phones out there probably has a massive effect on the resale price.
For a quick sale you could do Envirofone or Mazuma which are showing about £100. Amazon is showing them about £280 new so you probably wont get much higher.
Craig

I think the desire z is underestimated.
Most people look at the hinge issue and the 800mhz, and then decide for another phone.
- But the hinge issue is not so big.
If anything, it is good that it is so easy to switch to the keyboard with not much hassle.
- The 800mhz of the second generation processor is faster then an 1ghz first generation processor, and at the moment it is even underclocked by htc. So it has much more power under its shell.
- It has dedicated camera button
- An easy to open battery lid
- Good speakers
- Good Headset
- Very good Music Quality
- Touchpad
- Led flash
- Good sized display with high resolution and ppi
- Hardware keyboard
- Very fast adreno205gpu (4x faster then the adreno200gpu)
- 512mb ram
- 1.5gb rom
- Android with Sense
- Good voice quality
- 5mp Camera with HD recording (videos that i made with it*)
- Very good battery duration (even more with incredible-s battery)
- MicroSD Card Slot that holds up to 64gb at the moment
- Fast UMTS/HSDPA+ (14,4down / 5,76up)
and so on...
What more could one want?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5bCx5rKOTU

have to say agree with above post, dont plan on changing anytime soon, phone does what I want and as of yet nothing tickles my fancy, solid phone with plenty options to keep it current, life in this old dog yet
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I have to agree too.
It's a really underestimated phone. The QUERTY/Z (german) keyboard is the reason why I bought it a half year ago and up to now, I wouldn't buy another phone. I just love it^^.
And when you root it, you can easily overklock it to 1,2 ghz or higher and it still runs very, very stable.

Minimal theme.
O'clock 1.2GHZ
Cyanogenmod 7.1
Good enough for me. Did the hinge fix, and left sd, battery stock. With brightness all the way to min and juicebatterysaver, battery lasts forever. =)
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I don't consider myself a "consumer"
Others seem to fall prey to the, "its the 'latest' newest, oh shiniest"
Not me. Although I use my macbook pro, and sony a300 for computing and photo needs, this phone is good for what I need.
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I've accepted the fact that I'll most likely not sell my g2 as by the time I upgrade to something new it'll be maybe a $100 phone, if that. The more new gen phones that are released the more the g2 will decrease in value. It's already starting to happen with the sensation, look on ebay. The sensation used to sell for over $400 on ebay but lately it's only been around $300, mainly because everybody wants the amaze and gsII now. Yes, the g2 is a really good phone but it's over a year old now, which is ancient for tech.
Don't get me wrong, like the rest of you I love my phone, at 1.2 ghz it's just as fast as a stock sensation, if not faster.

The Desire Z is an good phone. Though it would have been better if it had more ram
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768 ram would be perfect!
but desire z is a vfm headset!
love it

wow htc dz/g2 is really underestimated. nothing more convenient to me than an option to switch from visual to physical keyboard. the 800mhz cpu is underclocked tho. i am running 1.1ghz and it works like what a smartphone supposed to work.

Yeah, my friends htc incredibles are all glitchy and battery drains. My G2 is never let me down, now that I rooted it and put cm7.1 on it I am happier than before.
Sent from my HTC G2 using xda premium

My desire Z means a lot to me. i don't think i will sell it and get another one.
You may try post you cellphone here and see if any people in this forum will buy it for some other uses

Why is the Desire Z so worthless?
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Worthless? WTF? What are you smokin?
You are damn lucky to find a new one on ebay for less than $350, I would call that amazing resale value for a phone that is over a year old.
Like any great phone, if you kept it in great condition, it is still worth a lot, on the other hand, if you beat yours to hell and back, then maybe not so much!

I'm quite satisfied with my desire z. I rooted it the first day I got it, and flashed CM7(don't care for sense). I have it running at 1113 mhz, along with juicedefender, the phone then runs smooth, without hogging the battery.
I love the flip out keyboard, but I see the problem with it sliding out in the pocket. As a solution I've bought a pouch for it, which also comes in handy since I have ditched my wallet, and now carry all my cards in the pouch as well.
Only downside is, if I lose my phone, i'm pretty much screwed.
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d_gkal said:
768 ram would be perfect!
but desire z is a vfm headset!
love it
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768 MB is a little on the lower side. To run multiple apps like Firefox when you have sense, 1GB would be more adequate.
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love this phone... couldn't live without it...
now leave britney alone!

Oh, don't get me wrong I love my DZ, but I feel like upgrading...
The XE is a dual core 1.5GHz so should easily last 1.5-2 years without falling behind, and also, if it's been rooted, it can be under clocked to 1GHz dual core or even less (800MHz dual core) which would still make it quick and improve battery life a lot which is very important (to be fair, I do charge it every night anyway but it can just last two on one charge with my DZ already with light use)
Also, I use it for a few hours every day on the way to/from work listening to music so the enhanced audio is a big plus for me (although still need to read up and make sure it really is a big improvement) and it looks really nice too. Plus, the hardware keyboard isn't much of a deal breaker any more...it was at first, but now I just use Swype all of the time
By worthless, I just mean it seems to have lost a lot of value compared to the price of a new phone (I was thinking about just selling my DZ, and buying the SE pay as you go and keeping my contract)
Decisions, decisions!

At the current pace, ALL phones depreciate value very quickly. End of discussion.

the G2/Desire-Z have held a higher % or their original value after over a year than any phone I can think of, they still command about 70% of the launch price for new ones on ebay - WOW!
so I would call it the far end of the "worthless" scale, all other phones of similar age are MORE worthless!!
and the reason for such high resale value is, people have realized what a great phone they are, the last phone before the manufacturer's really started cheaping out, what other phone combines great looks, style, reliability and speed and has a GREAT keyboard? - answer me that, and I will upgrade my G2 - the problem is, there are none!

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Good time to buy the legend? hows is it for you?

okay so first how do you guys feel with it is it snappy can it run the new apps fast?
hows flash videos playing?
do you think htc will update it soon or is now a good time to get one?
with the 2.2 out hows flash video? generally dose it feel good?
also i can buy it at best buy for 350 plus i get a 100$ bestbuy card so 250
you think its a good buy or get a nexus one used/vibrant for 300?
You shouldn't buy a Legend if your aim is to run apps fast.
Adobe flash doesn't work on Legend, but official rom has Flash Lite from HTC.
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okay so first how do you guys feel with it is it snappy can it run the new apps fast?
hows flash videos playing?
do you think htc will update it soon or is now a good time to get one?
with the 2.2 out hows flash video? generally dose it feel good?
also i can buy it at best buy for 350 plus i get a 100$ bestbuy card so 250
you think its a good buy or get a nexus one used/vibrant for 300?
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its slow and buggy woul have been better off on 2.1 if u ask me
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thanks guys
Legend is a great phone. I really dislike big phones like the Nexus1, HTC Desire, iPhone, GalaxyS.
Legend fits the bill perfectly, it's got great build quality, it's pretty fast (600Mhz CPU), but it's GPU is faster than most high end phones, outperforming 1GHZ snapdragon phones for gaming and graphically intensive stuff.
For $250, it sounds like a great buy.
CrazyPeter said:
Legend is a great phone. I really dislike big phones like the Nexus1, HTC Desire, iPhone, GalaxyS.
Legend fits the bill perfectly, it's got great build quality, it's pretty fast (600Mhz CPU), but it's GPU is faster than most high end phones, outperforming 1GHZ snapdragon phones for gaming and graphically intensive stuff.
For $250, it sounds like a great buy.
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Legend pretty fast are you crazy and the only thing the gpu will out perform is a wildfire ...... if your lucky. I came from desire > desire hd > legend
the legend is the best lookin phone out of them all i think but definatly the slowes my legend even lags when playin angry birds so dont see how it could out perform any high end snapdragon. well worth $250 tho.
got a local buyer that is selling a mint nexus one for 320 you think its worth it,
also for calling dose the chin on the legend make voice conversations better?>
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got a local buyer that is selling a mint nexus one for 320 you think its worth it,
also for calling dose the chin on the legend make voice conversations better?>
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not really had the phone long enough to say about the legend calls.
I have never had the nexus but on paper its a better phone, but it will never look as nice as the legend. You have to choose between spec or design, and the nexus will more than likley get gingerbread
The battery can't hold a charge, the unibody design impairs getting signal in low reception areas, scrolling is jerky on almost everything, pinch to zoom is completely unusable and the camera is crap.
Don't do it man.
I get a day and a half on a charge with WiFi always on, so the battery is excellent. I never had any issues with pinch to zoom. The camera is very good imo. WiFi reception is very good as is GPS and cell signal. Call quality is excellent, as per the people I call. The music player does not have an eq, that is my only gripe. Oh, and the buttons below the screen seem cheap. But hey, for $250 its a great deal. you cant even get a new iphone 3Gs for that.
Pro: I like the legend's smaller physical size when I carry it in my pants pocket (which is always unless I'm using it). I have no problems with the battery -- I charge it every second or third night depending on how much I play with the phone. Of course if you use it a lot, you'll be charging it every night.
Con: The camera is the worst phone camera I've had[1] - everything that isn't staying perfectly still will get smudged, so it's not good for taking pictures at concerts or parties or of children. The aluminum edge along the top doesn't feel nice against my ear when talking on the phone. If you want to use the web a lot on the phone, you might want something with a higher resolution -- like the nexus one.
All in all, I'm not unhappy with my legend, and I have no plans for getting rid of it. Maybe when android phone cameras start beating the Nokia N8.
Personal recommendation: I'd invest the extra $70 to get the nexus one.
[1] Previous camera phones: SE k800i, Nokia N82.
zukа said:
The battery can't hold a charge, the unibody design impairs getting signal in low reception areas, scrolling is jerky on almost everything, pinch to zoom is completely unusable and the camera is crap.
Don't do it man.
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erm, not for me dude, all those things are A OK.
I love my Legend, the build quality and design are superb and, although it isn't the fastest phone in the world, it performs just fine.
zukа said:
The battery can't hold a charge, the unibody design impairs getting signal in low reception areas, scrolling is jerky on almost everything, pinch to zoom is completely unusable and the camera is crap.
Don't do it man.
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you must have got a bad one? all those things are good for me?
like another has mentioned the edge by the screen is a bit sharp but thats really my only complaint...its very close to being the 'perfect phone'
nolook said:
you must have got a bad one? all those things are good for me?
like another has mentioned the edge by the screen is a bit sharp but thats really my only complaint...its very close to being the 'perfect phone'
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I have to agree it is more than likley a bad phone mine is pretty decent as stock but things get a lot better once you get a custom rom and overclock it things get smoother but still not really a fast phone just reasonable. For me this phone is all about looks.
ive got a legend and regret it.
i was choosing between the desire and the legend and really wish i went the desire.
i chose the legend due to size but the desire is not much bigger and is much better. better cpu and bigger screen for surfing and apps. the keyboard is a little too cramped for my liking and i dont even have fat fingers.
the legend doesn't have enough storage for apps (yes 2.2 may fix this) plus the CPU can get bogged down and now for me the plastic cap on the bottom at the back is coming off so easily when i go to pull the phone out of my pocket. the plastic cap is the aerial, so when it is pulled off you lose reception.
i got my legend in april and i cant wait to upgrade to the nexus s in the coming months.
adrian.gab said:
ive got a legend and regret it.
i was choosing between the desire and the legend and really wish i went the desire.
i chose the legend due to size but the desire is not much bigger and is much better. better cpu and bigger screen for surfing and apps. the keyboard is a little too cramped for my liking and i dont even have fat fingers.
the legend doesn't have enough storage for apps (yes 2.2 may fix this) plus the CPU can get bogged down and now for me the plastic cap on the bottom at the back is coming off so easily when i go to pull the phone out of my pocket. the plastic cap is the aerial, so when it is pulled off you lose reception.
i got my legend in april and i cant wait to upgrade to the nexus s in the coming months.
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When the desire/legend was first release I got the desire then swaped it for a desire hd and now ended up buyin the legend as this was the 1 i really wanted but i went for spec over style and 3 fones later i finally have 1 and dont regret it 1 bit. well at least not yet as for the cpu gettin bogged down just use set cpu an it should be fine mine is running at 800MHz runs a lot better an smoother and now with data2ext the speed really shouldnt be an issue as far as the plastic cap goes you could always buy a new 1.
legend is a real smartphone compared to the others. they are more like pocket pc
we have great dev crew and ongoing skinning and modding
buy legend

Wouldn't recommend HTC Legend

This is a really bad phone for anyone looking for an Android/HTC phone.
It's slow, imposs to root and has such a small screen.
AVOID.
PS, get yourself a HTC Desire S, beast of a phone.
iamlegendfam said:
This is a really bad phone for anyone looking for an Android/HTC phone.
It's slow, imposs to root and has such a small screen.
AVOID.
PS, get yourself a HTC Desire S, beast of a phone.
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Don't be a really bad troll.
It's Stupid, imposs to reason ans has such a small...
AVOID.
PS, get yourself a carrot, best for others.
Frustration make you angry, isn't it?
I got a child who have 3 and I know it is difficult...
“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”
Buy a iPhone 5..... ;-)
I have my legend since 1 year and I know it isn't the best phone but I'm happy that I don't havebourht a wildfire *.*
Sent from my Legend using XDA App
its not bad phone.. just old phone ..
I'm back using mine after using a chacha for a couple of months, fancied a change!
Nice to be using proper custom Rom again too
Sure it's a bit slow but its well made, probably last longer than the chacha.
Sent from my Legend using Tapatalk
Bad troll is obvious.
I'm using the phone for over a year now, and I absolutely love it. It's fast (oc'd), works great and the battery life is fine (3 days normal use). What a little under- and overclocking can do to a phone !
Mavamaarten said:
Bad troll is obvious.
I'm using the phone for over a year now, and I absolutely love it. It's fast (oc'd), works great and the battery life is fine (3 days normal use). What a little under- and overclocking can do to a phone !
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Both legend's cpu, gpu are too slow for me even cpu is overclocked
And not enough ram is also a big problem
Launcher is killed after web browsing or playing games
Waiting for the Nexus Prime, and dont want to get a slow phone again.....
I find the legend to be a great phone. Not the fastest phone but it gets the job done in a small metallic package. I'm afraid we will not see to many 3.2 inch phones in the future...the trend is really big displays now. I guess i'll just have to settle with 3.7 inch.
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Guys, this Phone is 1,5 years old. It´s just outdated.
Although, Htc built it for Design Users, not for Power Users. Legend has one of the best looking case of all phones.
Just changed to HTC sensation, which also has a unibody frame, last week.
Bad troll is bad. Seriously.. ?
no0neX said:
Bad troll is bad. Seriously.. ?
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Sirius.
I love my Legend, It's better than my wifes Wildfire and more stylish than the other phones. Best of all, it's mine and I can do what I want too it and it does what I require just as well as my friends Desire HD or sensation, the difference is theirs is a bit quicker
HTC need to come out with the Legend S in a few months, I think it should have these specs: 4.3"/4.5" screen, 2Ghz quad core, 1Gb Ram, 32Gb on board with SD slot for more, along with the usual wifi/BT/Radio etc
That'll make it a Legendary phone
TheLegendaryJay said:
Sirius.
I love my Legend, It's better than my wifes Wildfire and more stylish than the other phones. Best of all, it's mine and I can do what I want too it and it does what I require just as well as my friends Desire HD or sensation, the difference is theirs is a bit quicker
HTC need to come out with the Legend S in a few months, I think it should have these specs: 4.3"/4.5" screen, 2Ghz quad core, 1Gb Ram, 32Gb on board with SD slot for more, along with the usual wifi/BT/Radio etc
That'll make it a Legendary phone
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I hope too!!
Darn you all
Problem with being in Canada is that it's one of the most expensive countries for a cell phone plan in the world. We don't have 2-year contracts, our max is 3. And if you try to land on a 1- or 2-year committment, it wouldn't be as economically wise as to buy it outright, which I did, but regret.
Wildfire S here is $250, Galaxy Gio is $70, Legend was bought for $400. Oh noes. So that means I'll be lugging this device here for another year after you all move on (it's no-contract, but it's the prime time where I actually earn enough cash to actually spend it on another mobile device).
Unless, you know, I win the lottery.
I disagree. Legend is a great phone.
Do not think rooting a Legend is hard challenge. The custom ROMs are also very good.
Not to mention the design - the aluminium block is one of the best smartphone exterior I have ever seen!
And the display size - it's not the biggest in the smartphone portfolio, but it's still pocket size, which I think is great. After all, I want phone, not tablet for my jeans..
I've had my Legend for 10 months now, Best ruddy phone I've ever owned, I've owned about 12-13 phones over the past 10 years, this one is the best, "for me". It may not be the fastest phone, it may not have the most memory, it may not have the biggest screen, it doesn't have a dual core, but thats fine by me.
When I got my phone, I really loved HTC sense, Eclair and Froyo, which I loved even more, how ever, now that I have rooted my phone and seen what's out there in the way of alternative roms, I must now admit, the stock HTC with sense rom really lets this phone down, hell, Blay0's rooted version of Froyo is awesome.
My opinion is at the end of the day, the hardware is great and it really all comes down to the ROM, and the stock HTC is a bit of a fail....
Oh BTW, the physical size of the Legend is also a winner for me, my wife has a desire HD, ruddy thing doesn't even fit in my hand comfortabily!
I have my Legend over a year and its (except a small screen) the realy legend! its survived a lot of thig, with a two scratches only on the body.
now i have HD2, and now take care to not fall even with two feet :S
Legend isn't bad, it's just an old mid-range phone ...
it has everything I need for my daily activities in addition to handy size.
I don't need anything better for now.

Things I should know before buying a G2?

I'm looking to buy a g2.
Firstly, Is there anything that I should look for? Are there specific versions that are easier to root than others/ harder to brick? (I'm coming from a vibrant and they made a bad batch of those that couldn't get into the recovery, so I want to know if there are any similar issues to be wary of)
Second, do you long time owners recommend the G2? Is it a good phone or should I wait for something else/go for a mt4gs?
Thanks in advance.
gonintendo said:
I'm looking to buy a g2.
Firstly, Is there anything that I should look for? Are there specific versions that are easier to root than others/ harder to brick? (I'm coming from a vibrant and they made a bad batch of those that couldn't get into the recovery, so I want to know if there are any similar issues to be wary of)
Second, do you long time owners recommend the G2? Is it a good phone or should I wait for something else/go for a mt4gs?
Thanks in advance.
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well if you buy one that is running froyo instead of gingerbread, it will be easier root. i would also say if ur looking for a android qwerty slider, then i recommend the droid 3, but if you can get past the uglyness of the mt4gs then thats not a bad option either. the dz is getting pretty old now
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well if you buy one that is running froyo instead of gingerbread, it will be easier root. i would also say if ur looking for a android qwerty slider, then i recommend the droid 3, but if you can get past the uglyness of the mt4gs then thats not a bad option either. the dz is getting pretty old now
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Stuck on t-mobile . Idk if I could live with sense on the mt4gs to be honest, and it seems like CM7 isn't coming to it anytime soon.
I think I might just tough it out with my vibrant.
You're arriving kinda late to the game, aren't you? The G2 has been end-of-life'd if I remember correctly.
But it looks like you're in luck as T-Mo is about to drop the price on the G2.
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/09/t-mobile-drops-the-prices-of-the-t-mobile-g2-g-slate/
G2 is a good buy get it wit Froyo n ur good to go everyday I enjoy it rooted 2.3.5 and long as u flash different roms n boot animation wit music everyday is like X-Mas. I turned my G2 to a Monster. I even snatched sum of the new Bionic stuff onto my G2 now n my boy with the new Bionic is jealous. Listen this Bad boy was built to modify n customize I can't see u nt liking it.
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G2 is a robust, highly customizable phone. I highly recommend it.
T-Mobile G2 | meXdroidMod Ghost Chilli AIO
Its a solid phone. But as others have mentioned, its getting pretty old. Getting close to a year old, which is ancient in smartphone terms. Unless you get a real good deal on one, or a hardware keyboard is an absolute necessity (G2/Desire Z is still probably the best around with a keyboard), I would spend my money on something with more current specs (CPU, memory, etc.).
You might like to know that the HTC Desire Z / T-mobile G2 is very similar to the Desire S.
Difference is that the Z has the qwerty keyboard and the S doesn't.
(Also, the S is stock clocked at 1GHz and Z is only 800MHz, but it is the same chipset so this can be changed with software).
The LCD, touch screen, gadgets and everything is the same.
The S is lighter and slimmer, also looks better.
If you get over the qwerty keyboard you might prefer the S.
The touch screen is very good and I often use it instead of the physical keyboard on my Z.
Also, even though the physical keyboard is good i cant type that fast. Not as fast as on a blackberry (keys are closer together on most blackberrys).
Some people have issues with the hinge and it's hard to replace.
Personally, I would swap my Z for an S right now. But they are both excellent devices and both **** on an iPhone4 for screen quality, call quality and build quality.
Screen is really good for watching videos, colors are so much nicer than on other devices like iPhone4 or Desire HD. It has a noise cancellation mic that makes voice chat sound really good and I have never had a drop out in the 6 months I've had it. It has a metal chassis and is very strong, dropped it plenty of times and it just scratches never breaks. Digitalizer is plastic so won't crack.
2nd hand, you can pick up a Z for about $250 or S for $300 - ish.
OP, really going to have to agree this device is too old at this point. Almost a year old now so I wouldn't buy one unless I got a damn good deal on it used. Plenty of other great phones out there right now.
It is a year old yet still one of the top performing single core phones on the market. If you can get one for $200 or less with no contract bs then I would say go for it. This phone still goes on ebay used for $150+
Know that finding a good case is tough with this style of phone....I recommend the otter box personally. Their warranty is top notch as well.
I also recommend doing the spring replacement to tighten up the hinge. Ever since I did that little mod, I have been more than pleased with my G2. I have had mine for 8 months and I can honestly say I could care less about upgrading my phone anytime soon because this phone does everything I need it to do and it does it quick enough for me.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App.
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You might like to know that the HTC Desire Z / T-mobile G2 is very similar to the Desire S.
Difference is that the Z has the qwerty keyboard and the S doesn't.
(Also, the S is stock clocked at 1GHz and Z is only 800MHz, but it is the same chipset so this can be changed with software).
The LCD, touch screen, gadgets and everything is the same.
The S is lighter and slimmer, also looks better.
If you get over the qwerty keyboard you might prefer the S.
The touch screen is very good and I often use it instead of the physical keyboard on my Z.
Also, even though the physical keyboard is good i cant type that fast. Not as fast as on a blackberry (keys are closer together on most blackberrys).
Some people have issues with the hinge and it's hard to replace.
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Desire S and Z are not the same chipset. Z has the Snapdragon MSM7230, and the S has the MSM8255. And there is also a big difference in the MHz rating of a CPU, and simply overclocking it.
Also the S has 768 Mb of memory versus 512 Mb on the Z; the S has a 1450 mAh battery versus 1300 mAh on the Z; the S has no trackpad but it does have a front facing camera. Really, there is not that much the same between the two phones besides the screen size.
IMO, the hinge "issue" is totally overblown. The hinge is designed to be easy to open and close with a light touch. Some people don't like it, and its just a personal preference.

Would jumping to the Sensation be a bad move?

So I do like my Atrix but I have the chance to do a straight trade for a Sensation.
I love Sense and would like a better camera.
Atrix does have 16gb vs the Sensation and its 8gb card, but I hardly have any space used up on mine. Its just photos and apps that are taking space pretty much - maybe 4 songs.
I dont use webtop. I like knowing the Atrix has the HDMI out and for the sensation - it has the option to do it but you need to buy the adapter cable. As much as I like the thought of that feature, I havent even used it yet lol.
I knwo the battery life on the Atrix is obviously better. I would buy a spare battery for the Sensation though and just keep it in my wallet just in case, like I used to do with my Motorola Milestone. The battery isnt very big.
Both have the same resolution and qhd.
The ROM support on the Atrix is lacking, and it looks very populated on the Sensation.
My girlfriend has the Desire which I have ROM'ed for her and its ROM support is very active and up to date for a phone of that age - I can expect the same for the Sensation?
Anything about the Atrix that is worth keeping over the Sensation?
Anything about the Sensation that should warrant the trade to it?
Thanks guys
Tried my friend's Sensation out for a day and he tried my Atrix out for the same day.
The Sensation was slightly laggy, even for such a powerful processor (or was i just used to the smoothness of the Atrix?) camera was awesome and overall the phone is pretty damn good! However, he got it back with a full battery (had to charge it overnight or else it would die on me) whereas when he gave my Atrix back, it was still running on the charge from a day ago, after his heavy use too (albeit, it was nearly dead). If i was you, i'd stay with the Atrix, but at the end of the day, it's up to you.
Only if you don't mind losing battery life...
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Was your friend's Sensation running a custom ROM?
I would run ARHD on it and have Setcpu underclocking when needed as well. That ROM is said to have better battery life.
But as far as battery goes , Like I said I would just buy a spare and keep it with me. I did that with my Milestone and it wasnt much of a hassle.
And as far as the lag goes, there are TONS of animations in Sense, which I love the look of. If I wanted a period of time with no sense and more smooth performance, I would just throw on Go Launcher as my launcher, like I am with the Atrix
Apart from the battery life though, any other reason of sticking to the Atrix?
Wond3r said:
Was your friend's Sensation running a custom ROM?
I would run ARHD on it and have Setcpu underclocking when needed as well. That ROM is said to have better battery life.
But as far as battery goes , Like I said I would just buy a spare and keep it with me. I did that with my Milestone and it wasnt much of a hassle.
And as far as the lag goes, there are TONS of animations in Sense, which I love the look of. If I wanted a period of time with no sense and more smooth performance, I would just throw on Go Launcher as my launcher, like I am with the Atrix
Apart from the battery life though, any other reason of sticking to the Atrix?
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AFAIK it was all stock, not even rooted. We just like to swap our devices every once in a while (done the same with game consoles). I'm not saying it's a bad device though
If your on AT&T your not going to get anything above 3g on the phone most likely will be stuck in Edge. The drop in the phone storage and the battery also not using Tegra 2 CPU which according to some websites and reviews I have seen say that the Qualcomm is about 10-15% slower than the tegra 2.
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If your on AT&T your not going to get anything above 3g on the phone most likely will be stuck in Edge. The drop in the phone storage and the battery also not using Tegra 2 CPU which according to some websites and reviews I have seen say that the Qualcomm is about 10-15% slower than the tegra 2.
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yea i dont see that as a good idea as your buddy who gets the atrix will be the clear winner in that trade!
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double posted, same reply as above, sorry!
I am in Canada, so not on AT&T
How would he be the clear winner?
As far as processor speed..
I'm sure those websites reviewed it as stock though, and not using an optimized ROM.
The Atrix is much faster using a ROM vs stock as well.
We all have difference opinions. Some may love it but some may not. Try testing out at places or with a friend and get the feel for it. Dev here are not very active just yet but in mean time they will.
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I am in Canada, so not on AT&T
How would he be the clear winner?
As far as processor speed..
I'm sure those websites reviewed it as stock though, and not using an optimized ROM.
The Atrix is much faster using a ROM vs stock as well.
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I used to have an atrix and personally.. trading it for a sensation was the best move ever. However, I had to add on a bit of cash
I hate how the atrix recognizes the internal as an "sd card" and my other reasons was because Sense>Motoblur (in my opinion!) and I liked the looks of the sensation more + on top of that, (correct me if I'm wrong) the development in atrix forums seemed to slow down.. and on the other hand, sensations dev is still going strong! I also think that the back cover is 100x better - but, there's also flaws with the sensation cover. Can't say it's perfect
Also everyone complaining about battery life.. my sensation was unplugged 10pm last night, went to bed, woke up with 90% remaining, went to work! Got home it's now 3pm and I'm at 55% (I had a ~30 minute call and lots of texts as well as gmail syncing 2 accounts/facebook/twitter) HOWEVER I'm using a different battery. Look up "Anker". This thing is a beast! Surprisingly, it's lasting very well. I wouldn't say the battery is an issue. With this 55% it will definitely last me until tonight!
Just my two cents! I'm also in canada as well and signal/speed isn't an issue either.
You seem to be defending the sensation a lot as if you want it, its your choice, so just go with whatever you want, everyone has their own opinions.
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You seem to be defending the sensation a lot as if you want it, its your choice, so just go with whatever you want, everyone has their own opinions.
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Well, if he defends it and everyone elses opinions/arguments are better than his, then the atrix will be the clear winner! and agreed with the opinions part!
I am not "defending" the sensation, since I dont even have it; its just that people are saying the Atrix is better but their arguments dont really justify it to the extent of them defending the Atrix lol
Of course we all have different opinions. I think one of the first things I said in the initial post was that I love my Atrix
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I am not "defending" the sensation, since I dont even have it; its just that people are saying the Atrix is better but their arguments dont really justify it to the extent of them defending the Atrix lol
Of course we all have different opinions. I think one of the first things I said in the initial post was that I love my Atrix
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i would stick on the Atrix bandwagon for a little while longer, we're about to get nightlies on CM7 which means all our devs will be able to work on their own individual projects again. the only reason our development slowed down was because ibproud organized most of the Atrix devs into a group to port CM7 for us; now that it's almost done, people will start building their own ROMs and hacks.
it may take a month or two more, but it'll most definitely be worth the wait
Very interesting question.
Here's how I weigh everything up.
Atrix:
- Faster processor (despite being 1Ghz vs 1.2Ghz)
- Better GPU (more effecient, less heat and THD games)
- Much brighter display
- More RAM
- Much better battery
- Better Touchscreen (Sensation has issues)
- No death grip issues
- Webtop and fingerprint scanner
Sensation:
- Better build quality
- Sharper display (RGB stripe vs PenTile)
- Brand recognition
- Better community
- Much better camera
So it's really up to you with what you prioritize.
OMG totally trade for the sensation I heard the next ROM will support quad core.
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So I do like my Atrix but I have the chance to do a straight trade for a Sensation.
I love Sense and would like a better camera.
Atrix does have 16gb vs the Sensation and its 8gb card, but I hardly have any space used up on mine. Its just photos and apps that are taking space pretty much - maybe 4 songs.
I dont use webtop. I like knowing the Atrix has the HDMI out and for the sensation - it has the option to do it but you need to buy the adapter cable. As much as I like the thought of that feature, I havent even used it yet lol.
I knwo the battery life on the Atrix is obviously better. I would buy a spare battery for the Sensation though and just keep it in my wallet just in case, like I used to do with my Motorola Milestone. The battery isnt very big.
Both have the same resolution and qhd.
The ROM support on the Atrix is lacking, and it looks very populated on the Sensation.
My girlfriend has the Desire which I have ROM'ed for her and its ROM support is very active and up to date for a phone of that age - I can expect the same for the Sensation?
Anything about the Atrix that is worth keeping over the Sensation?
Anything about the Sensation that should warrant the trade to it?
Thanks guys
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If i were you i'd look to swap for the sensation XE not the sensation as i believe the atrix to be better than the normal sensation
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OMG totally trade for the sensation I heard the next ROM will support quad core.
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?? Wtf?
Notorious544d said:
Very interesting question.
Here's how I weigh everything up.
Atrix:
- Faster processor (despite being 1Ghz vs 1.2Ghz)
- Better GPU (more effecient, less heat and THD games)
- Much brighter display
- More RAM
- Much better battery
- Better Touchscreen (Sensation has issues)
- No death grip issues
- Webtop and fingerprint scanner
Sensation:
- Better build quality
- Sharper display (RGB stripe vs PenTile)
- Brand recognition
- Better community
- Much better camera
So it's really up to you with what you prioritize.
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I wouldn't say that the Geforce ULP is betfer than the Adreno 220 GPU. Just look at the benchmark results on this page: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17 (don't forget the qHD resolution on all Adreno 220 phones either). Also the processor of the Atrix is not faster; it handles flash better because of software reasons, but that 0,2GHz difference is visible in Linpack, so I guess custom ROMs would unleash that power with software optimizations. Also something you left out is the lack of NEON support in the Atrix (no .mkv playback or high profile h.264).
I don't want to say that the Atrix is not a great phone - I had it for a while, but then sold it for an SGSII (great decision) - but the Sensation is just better imo.

Is the Desire HD going anywhere?

I've had my Desire HD for around 8 months now and I've been nothing but impressed and bedazzled by it, it's the first true smartphone (and android) I've used other than the poor iPhone #1 gen and I still love it to be pieces, looks beyond sexy (still yet to see a phone with a 4.3"+ screen look as good or better), is more than enough power even though dual core phones or better are strutting their stuff and the con list is short.
However, I've still got the phone for another year and a bit (two year contract) and although I welcome the time to come I'm always a little worried it'll be dropped in terms of development, my main concern is if this 1ghz snapper will remain strong throughout future renditions of Android? It'd be a shame to have this phone lose it's shine as technology advances and that's a given in today's quickly progressing world.
Any replies are appreciated, thankyou!
just stick with it and look into rooting. By the time your contract is over you'll have many great phones to choose from. Always research before committing to any device....or woman lol.
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I agree with every word, this device is the best phone I ever owned
you should consider rooting, this phone s2 CPU can go up to 1.5ghz easily, just like the sensation XL, android revolution ROM is based on stock the latest is based on sense 3 OTA and also offer a slight boost to GPU
check the info in my signature to take this beast into its full potential
I can easily wait for quad core + HD display it better be unibody too
Is it going anywhere? No. Tech moves to fast, as shown by the fact that HTC doesn't currently have the DHD on their ICS curve. It's an impressive enough piece of hardware that I'm sure it will eventually get ICS, but you'll get it much sooner by being rooted and watching for cm9, or anyone who gets there sooner.
That said, this is such an awesome phone, if you aren't the type to break your contract and spend 600 to move to the Galaxy Nexus, the next greatest early adopter phone...
Enjoy it
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It's probaly gonna be abandoned by htc soon, but you can always root + overclock + cm9 ;d
Howto root recently updated hesire hd, its sense 3 now.
I am pretty happy with it. my first android phone and it lived upto its reputation.
Couldnt have been better.
Also regarding future, I think it has a long way to go. (recently installed ICS and its awesome)
HTC released sense 3. maybe they may go one step further to ICS
All we can do is hope. (otherwise we have XDA )
Agree with you. I have had it for 12 months and finally decided to root. Went with RCMix3D Runny 4.0 and it has transformed my phone. Great to use and battery life much improved from stock. Do it you wont be disappointed.
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I love my DHD and ICS is on its way......don't see the need to upgrade until all the devs move on !
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I was in the same mind set as you, great phone but Hhhmmmm...
Then last week I flashed the phone to Android Revolution 6.2.0 and now I have the phone I want (it is literally like having a new phone) and it's to a degree future proofed it until my contract runs out in a years time.
Root your phone and take and change the ROM, you won't regret it, I certainly haven't
I don't find desire HD that attractive when i have SGS+ and sony ericsson xperia arc s at home owned by my sister and my father.
This phone lacks a normal (1500mAh) battery, i mean what was HTC thinking when they placed 1250mAh battery there...my old san francisco running at 600mhz has 1250mAh and it makes sense, a front facing camera
and weight is too much to pull my jeans down so that i can sag although it can be a plus point for some people but definitely not for me.
Anyways i still own it, i still plan to keep it...so what do i say? it's ok i guess.
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and weight is too much to pull my jeans down so that i can sag although it can be a plus point for some people but definitely not for me.
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You could always buy a belt
A bit more on topic, I think your good with the dhd for at least another six months to be fair. There's a lot of handsets being released right now that are only just catching up with this beast, many with less ram as well. Although these are now the mid range/cheaper handsets this means that apps need to be written with this in mind so there shouldn't be any problems in that area. Throw in the fact that you can overclock, theres ics on the horizon and the overall build quality and you shouldn't have anything to worry about with this phone.
how would this phone be if I get a good secs for $300
cherryva said:
how would this phone be if I get a good secs for $300
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A little too much perhaps.
I wouldn't want to sell mine anyway. Bought it in dec 2010; owned it, loved it & flaunted it & its got more in it. Never had a problem (hardware) at all even though I constantly keep doing this to it (change ROMs, OC, etc)
Overall, it's a great phone. It would be sad if HTC stops pushing OS updates for it. But then again, who needs the manufacturer for updates
how much would be fair?
Thanks for reply
About 200€ is about right, check ebay. There's more bravos and sensations on there than dhds though so that'll tell you something about this phone. Dhd owners tend to love their phone
Love the phone. Hate the battery life though.
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Battery life is a bit crappy but I'm managing over a day between charges with the latest its update which is good enough. Plus everywhere I go has somewhere that I can charge up, on e you're used to the charge cycle its not a problem. When I bought the phone I bought an extra battery and I've not used it once so it can't be that bad
Eltocliousus said:
I've had my Desire HD for around 8 months now and I've been nothing but impressed and bedazzled by it, it's the first true smartphone (and android) I've used other than the poor iPhone #1 gen and I still love it to be pieces, looks beyond sexy (still yet to see a phone with a 4.3"+ screen look as good or better), is more than enough power even though dual core phones or better are strutting their stuff and the con list is short.
However, I've still got the phone for another year and a bit (two year contract) and although I welcome the time to come I'm always a little worried it'll be dropped in terms of development, my main concern is if this 1ghz snapper will remain strong throughout future renditions of Android? It'd be a shame to have this phone lose it's shine as technology advances and that's a given in today's quickly progressing world.
Any replies are appreciated, thankyou!
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Rooting my DHD with Android Revolution turned a useless lump with at best 6 hours battery life into a true performer. It's definately the way...
I have to agree that changing from stock firmware to a ROM massively helped battery life for me. Have played with Sense, AOSP and MIUI ROM's - currently running ICS. Battery life in all cases has been better than HTC stock. You have to wonder who sets up the software they ship with really

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