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Hero VS Samsung Galaxy

Not trying to start any fanboy stuff here its just I was dead set for the Hero until I came across some info about the Samsung Galaxy.
For those of you choosing the hero over the galaxy what are you basing that choice on? It seems on first glance that the Galaxy has better spec with regards to the screen - OLED, Storage - 8GB, Battery - 1500....
for me the only pro for the Hero is the Sense UI (which can be ported possibly) and this board. I must admit I missed the board whilst on my Symbian experience over the last year.
I am still leaning towards the Hero (I am not even sure why) but which are you choosing and why?

s4vva said:
Not trying to start any fanboy stuff here its just I was dead set for the Hero until I came across some info about the Samsung Galaxy.
For those of you choosing the hero over the galaxy what are you basing that choice on? It seems on first glance that the Galaxy has better spec with regards to the screen - OLED, Storage - 8GB, Battery - 1500....
for me the only pro for the Hero is the Sense UI (which can be ported possibly) and this board. I must admit I missed the board whilst on my Symbian experience over the last year.
I am still leaning towards the Hero (I am not even sure why) but which are you choosing and why?
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Hero - Always like HTC devices, they just seem much better in terms of build quality (all bar TP2, had 4 with problems!).
Support on this in invaluable.
Tefflon coating!
I like the chin - don't shoot me down, I really do like it for some reason.
Haven't seen the spec on the Samsung, but the last few Samsung phones I've owned, I gave them to my mum!

s4vva said:
Not trying to start any fanboy stuff here its just I was dead set for the Hero until I came across some info about the Samsung Galaxy.
For those of you choosing the hero over the galaxy what are you basing that choice on? It seems on first glance that the Galaxy has better spec with regards to the screen - OLED, Storage - 8GB, Battery - 1500....
for me the only pro for the Hero is the Sense UI (which can be ported possibly) and this board. I must admit I missed the board whilst on my Symbian experience over the last year.
I am still leaning towards the Hero (I am not even sure why) but which are you choosing and why?
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Even though the Samsung Galaxy has better specs, I prefare the Hero because of the UI, the design of the actual phone, and the fact that its made by HTC, I'm not a fanboy but because its made by HTC it will be supported by this website and the Galaxy wont be.

The Galaxy has only 128Mb ram where the hero has 288mb. nuff said.
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Hmm it was confirmed on some italian sites that the galaxy has 192mb usable by apps. Which probably means its has the same or very similar total ram.

kam187 said:
Hmm it was confirmed on some italian sites that the galaxy has 192mb usable by apps. Which probably means its has the same or very similar total ram.
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yep i read the same. So apart from the board here, and sense UI there really isnt much in favour of the Hero?
For me the sammy wins on;
camera (includes flash)
screen (AMOLED)
storage (8GB Internal)
battery
still havent seen pricing for the galaxy yet though...

s4vva said:
Not trying to start any fanboy stuff here its just I was dead set for the Hero until I came across some info about the Samsung Galaxy.
For those of you choosing the hero over the galaxy what are you basing that choice on? It seems on first glance that the Galaxy has better spec with regards to the screen - OLED, Storage - 8GB, Battery - 1500....
for me the only pro for the Hero is the Sense UI (which can be ported possibly) and this board. I must admit I missed the board whilst on my Symbian experience over the last year.
I am still leaning towards the Hero (I am not even sure why) but which are you choosing and why?
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very sad I can't say my ideas here
COZ DEFINITELY I'M HTC FANBOY

After working with the EzInput 2 onscreen-keyboard on my little Diamond, the reason for me for going with the Hero is the keyboard-software. The rest I don't really care about.
The extra widgets and 7 homescreens and such is nice, but not really 'needed'. But the onscreen-keyboard is what you use more and more and more... being stuck with a commercial application or the stock Cupcake keyboard would be a deal-breaker for me. The HTC keyboard is far superior to most out there. And from what I see they made some handy changes to this android version (picking the correct word from 7 suggestions is nice and fullscreen, finger friendly for example) and the color coding in the suggestions.
For me going from 2.6" (Diamond) to 3.2" (Hero) will be heaven when typing .
That and the posibility to use Compact Qwerty and even the old phonepad-block (1 through 0 numbers) with T9 makes it possible live without a phsyical keyboard.

dipje said:
After working with the EzInput 2 onscreen-keyboard on my little Diamond, the reason for me for going with the Hero is the keyboard-software. The rest I don't really care about.
The extra widgets and 7 homescreens and such is nice, but not really 'needed'. But the onscreen-keyboard is what you use more and more and more... being stuck with a commercial application or the stock Cupcake keyboard would be a deal-breaker for me. The HTC keyboard is far superior to most out there. And from what I see they made some handy changes to this android version (picking the correct word from 7 suggestions is nice and fullscreen, finger friendly for example) and the color coding in the suggestions.
For me going from 2.6" (Diamond) to 3.2" (Hero) will be heaven when typing .
That and the posibility to use Compact Qwerty and even the old phonepad-block (1 through 0 numbers) with T9 makes it possible live without a phsyical keyboard.
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Imagine if you went to a 3.8" Touch HD

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Imagine if you went to a 3.8" Touch HD
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true, very true. Was thinking about going for an Xperia or Blackstone because they are relatively cheap now.
But if I have a new phone I want a new experience. After years of WinMo phones, and after a year of cooking and tweaking for the Diamond... getting a TouchHD would seem like I would not get anything new. It would feel like 'a bigger diamond' within a day I guess...
.. must be my gadget-vibe, I don't know. But I've set my sights on Android + HTC Tweaks and I'm curious how it will work out

dipje said:
true, very true. Was thinking about going for an Xperia or Blackstone because they are relatively cheap now.
But if I have a new phone I want a new experience. After years of WinMo phones, and after a year of cooking and tweaking for the Diamond... getting a TouchHD would seem like I would not get anything new. It would feel like 'a bigger diamond' within a day I guess...
.. must be my gadget-vibe, I don't know. But I've set my sights on Android + HTC Tweaks and I'm curious how it will work out
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Have to second that, my thoughs exactly. Had a lot of WinMo devices and just want a change

dipje said:
But if I have a new phone I want a new experience. After years of WinMo phones...
.. must be my gadget-vibe, I don't know. But I've set my sights on Android + HTC Tweaks and I'm curious how it will work out
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This is exactly why I left WM a while back. I tried symbian but didnt like that so going to give android a go and this seems like the best of what is available.

galaxy:
- amoled
- flash led
- 8 gb internal storage
- better battery life
- smaller than hero
hero:
- 288 mb RAM (galaxy has only 192 mb, like dream...italian galaxy too)
- Sense
- Flash support in browser
- teflon coating
- oleophobic display
- status led
i've ordered hero

enlightener said:
galaxy:
- amoled
- flash led
- 8 gb internal storage
- better battery life
- smaller than hero
hero:
- 288 mb RAM (galaxy has only 192 mb, like dream...italian galaxy too)
- Sense
- Flash support in browser
- teflon coating
- oleophobic display
- status led
i've ordered hero
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hero: transreflective screen (amoled SUCKS outdoors)

I still don't know that the Sense UI is going to be a bonus for me... I'll have to look more into that feature. The main reason I'm leaning towards the Hero is time frame combined with a potential discount: the Hero is already out, plus the rumors say it will be on the AT&T network which means I may get a discount on the phone since I have an account with them.
If the two phones came out around the same time and neither of them were on AT&T, then I would be leaning towards the Galaxy.

NisseGurra said:
hero: transreflective screen (amoled SUCKS outdoors)
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Hero: multitouch broswer

joshuapurcell said:
the Hero is already out
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Who are you kidding? cannot find it actually on sale anywhere. keeps getting moved back

NisseGurra said:
hero: transreflective screen (amoled SUCKS outdoors)
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Agree with that. AMOLED displays in the sun are practically useless. Inside they are gorgeous.
Spent some time in Las Vegas on business and my Nokia N85 was almost impossible to use when standing outside. My N82 (always take a spare in case of theft) was more than useable.
Keyboard on Hero is fantastic as said above... the two things you're going to be using most are the screen and keyboard.

barryallott said:
Who are you kidding? cannot find it actually on sale anywhere. keeps getting moved back
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I'm just going on what I see on ebay and from hearing people in the UK talk... I definitely haven't seen one here in the US yet though.
EDIT: Just checked ebay and looks like the majority of listings now say shipping in August...

dang, 02 is giving hero away for FREE!!!!!!!! wtf, now i got to spend $700 on this or the galaxy. right now I want hero pretty bad, especially the graphite one but it doesn't have tmo 3g bands for the us. if the galaxy does which it seem so so far i will buy that instead.

Better HTC Bravo Picture

I really like the look of this more than my N1:
http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/01/26/htc-bravo-shows-its-android-ui-in-new-hands-on-photo/
I'm a sucker for hard keys and I like to coloring better. It looks less like an iphone with the hard keys too.

looks like a bootleg nexus one to me

melterx12 said:
looks like a bootleg nexus one to me
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Agreed, I was thinking the same thing when I saw it.

It looks rather hideous to me, I like the concept-model better than this, thing.. it looks as if its made out of the same material the black G1 is, or maybe something similar. I honestly don't know, but it just looks like a quite ugly phone personally.
It does have everything the N1 has, plus more, and the Sense UI - so honestly, but sadly, I could see this thing maybe beating the N1 in terms of popularity. Don't know why I think this, don't want to think it either.

Concept picture was much much nicer.
Designers get raped in the negineering process dont they.
I like the optical trackball since the N1s is currently useless for notifications.
Sense UI is Fugly on large screens. Dont know why I think Android 2.1 transitions and live wallpaper make Sense home screen look more hideous than before.

Right now, I'm more interested in what 3G frequencies it supports. I thought I remember reading that it will support WCDMA 900/1900/2100, which would mean it would work just fine on AT&T's 3G network in most areas. It's too bad the buttons look awful on the bottom of it though, but I'd rather have ugly buttons with 3G than the other way around!

Reading the article, it is reporting it will have 512mb of RAM? Every other report of the Brave has it at 378(or something like that)... hmmmm...
Anyway you slice it, though, the ROM for the Bravo will be ported to the N1, and the N1 ROM will be ported to the Bravo. Same hardware, so any "features" it has are available for the N1 as well.

It also has 720p video recording and an FM radio. Bootloader will probably not be unlockable at all - very hard to root.

RAM
Not that there is anything wrong with the amount of RAM for the N1, but all sense phones should have more RAM than their stock counter parts, at least enough to offset all the widgets and goodies of sense running.
1gb of RAM would be nice, with 4 gigs of ROM for OS and apps and microSD for media as it is now.

That picture is almost correct size if you put your N1 up against it.
What's up with the space at the bottom? Is the screen size smaller?

Xperia X10 will be faster with Android 2.1?

Hi,
I have in my hands HTC Desire and Xperia X10. It's clear that Desire is faster than X10. Everything related to graphics are faster and smooth.
HTC Sense is really, really beautiful and in my opinion it is smooth as iphone (graphically, other aspects Desire won easily).
I'm curious to know if when SE update X10 to Android 2.1 we will have improvement of speed and finally have smooth movements without flickering.
Desire right now has the best user experience, no lags, no flickering in movements, best response in touch screen. But I can't deny that X10 its the most beautiful design (despite not fit in my pocket very well hehe), its something that really attract attention and everybody love it. Timescape also is really nice application, but the Android 1.6 is just a simple Android 1.6, no nice features htc sense ofc.
So, someone believe that with Android 2.1 we will have these improvements (speed graphically) for X10?

I read somewhere that when the x10 gets a 2.1 update, the screen will display 16million colours, not sure how accurate this information is but if its true, that would be great

Saricorleone said:
I read somewhere that when the x10 gets a 2.1 update, the screen will display 16million colours, not sure how accurate this information is but if its true, that would be great
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Yeah, I hear that they will release a 2.1 update, however it will take some time..

jackstuard said:
Yeah, I hear that they will release a 2.1 update, however it will take some time..
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Yeah.. about second half of 2010, that's anytime between middle of summer... and christmas... that's a long wait...

i dont think they said second half, didnt they say second quarter? thats apr-jun

I would guess second half. Phone was only just released in Canada in second quarter. We can hope though.

even with 1.6 the screen color is nice already because of the 24bit color ala palm pre.
i think is more of the memory issue since the x10 has only 384MB ram.

Yeah, I don't know, but I have tested both phones, Desire and X10, of course the design of X10 is more beautiful then Desire, however, Desire is so fast that it compensate the beauty. At the end, it fit very well in my pocket (x10 doesn't fit because of the square form), testing the browser I could see that Desire is faster.
At the end, I believe that SE needs to improve a lot, when they arrive there, for sure I'll change to it, but for now, I'll stay with who have more life experience with Android, HTC Sense is really good, I'm impressed how it is fast!
I hope that with Android 2.1 X10 become faster.

tommy96814 said:
even with 1.6 the screen color is nice already because of the 24bit color ala palm pre.
i think is more of the memory issue since the x10 has only 384MB ram.
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You sure? My phone says I currently have 414mb of free space and 14.59GB of SD space.

Udonitron said:
You sure? My phone says I currently have 414mb of free space and 14.59GB of SD space.
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mine says 387mb free on internal phone, 2 days ago it was 392mb

Udonitron said:
You sure? My phone says I currently have 414mb of free space and 14.59GB of SD space.
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ROM and RAM are two different things. the 414 you have is Free ROM, which is used to install Apps, not the RAM.

tommy96814 said:
even with 1.6 the screen color is nice already because of the 24bit color ala palm pre.
i think is more of the memory issue since the x10 has only 384MB ram.
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I hardly think it's because of "only" 384MB RAM. It's still quite enough and my X10 never gets slow or low on RAM. I think it's because of 1.6 not being able to fully utilize the hardware in the phone!

Flamso said:
I hardy think it's because of "only" 384MB RAM. It's still quite enough and my X10 never gets slow or low on RAM. I think it's because of 1.6 not being able to fully utilize the hardware in the phone!
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i agree, i have everytime around 120mb-150mb memory left, on my motorola milestone it was around 50mb, so i'm satisfied with this result. even on my motorola it was still fast, so it's only better

There are a bucktetload of tiny fixes outside of the big ones that tend to get all the press as far as the changes going from 1.6 to 2.1. All these little things add up. I would be surprised if the X10 does not move straight to froyo though. With the latest rumurs being september (these also include the fact that multi touch may in fact work, check the phone sites like phonearena) and internal testers at google already running hardware on froyo it seems a more likely target.

krabman said:
There are a bucktetload of tiny fixes outside of the big ones that tend to get all the press as far as the changes going from 1.6 to 2.1. All these little things add up. I would be surprised if the X10 does not move straight to froyo though. With the latest rumurs being september (these also include the fact that multi touch may in fact work, check the phone sites like phonearena) and internal testers at google already running hardware on froyo it seems a more likely target.
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Humm, even if the people come and say that X10 never will have multitouch I'll just believe when someone disassembly it and show me that there are no hardware capable to do it inside. I just believe that SE is mentioning that is not multitouch capable because of 1.6.

[Q] What phone can make you throw your hd2 away??

So everything is in the title!! Without the money issue of course.. just wondering if i have to change what 's interesting out there?? Please do forget to say why..
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There is no phone that looks good right now.. Sure their Specs are nice but the overall look of them... NO, a nice HTC 4.3in screen that's thin similar to the HD2/7 with dual+ core and more ram then ok... 3D that's useless and makes no sense on phones

hakuchi18v said:
There is no phone that looks good right now.. Sure their Specs are nice but the overall look of them... NO, a nice HTC 4.3in screen that's thin similar to the HD2/7 with dual+ core and more ram then ok... 3D that's useless and makes no sense on phones
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I agree with everything you said here.
My replacement will have to have at least a 4.3 inch screen, dual core, more ram, and no frikkin 3D crap.

There is no way I'm changing my HD2 right now, but if I had to I'd pick the Evo 3D, not because of its specification nor of its supposed 3D. But because of it's design . It's so sexy

hakuchi18v said:
There is no phone that looks good right now.. Sure their Specs are nice but the overall look of them... NO, a nice HTC 4.3in screen that's thin similar to the HD2/7 with dual+ core and more ram then ok... 3D that's useless and makes no sense on phones
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Lol totally agree with you but.. still the atrix looks good.. or even the lg optimus whatever the name is..
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sumthing dual core, but specifically qualcomm snapdragon.. not a big fan of the dual core tegra
reason - QC chips kick ass

chars91 said:
Lol totally agree with you but.. still the atrix looks good.. or even the lg optimus whatever the name is..
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Idk why but the Atrix... Something about it throws me off... The Optimus X2 looks good

I can't leave my hd2...

I could not live without my HD2.
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I will never get rid of my HD2, even after it completely dies one day it will go into my go into my archieves as atestamony to it's greatness lol. But I am looking forward to tbe release of the HTC Pyramid. It is a dual core Snapdragon. Hell yeah!!!

Guys come on! I know we all love our HD2's but if you had the opportunity to switch to a native android device which didn't have any bugs and had the new snapdragon processor you'd definitely change. Also wake up lag is a *****.
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I think this would make me wanna leave my HD2...
http://wwalczyszyn.deviantart.com/art/HTC-quot-Eerie-quot-HD3-159409776

A phone with multi-os

Whilst I love my HD2 I have temporarily traded it for my cousin's captivate. Main reason so as to try out a native android phone.
So from my experience, i can conclude that android on this captivate is so much more smoother/faster than any rom from my HD2. In terms of variety of roms, it sucks, its either stock, themed stock, vanilla, themed vanilla. No variety in their roms really...
But that is where all those 3rd party launchers come in, like launcher 7. ;D
Whilst I do not know which device I want next, I do know it won't be another HTC or a motorola device. Reason being for both motorola and HTC, they've locked down their bootloaders now, so that means no more custom kernels, true root, etc. Also for HTC, snapdragon GPUs just suck, period.
I am keeping a keen eye on the galaxy s 2 however.

Definitely plan on getting the Htc Pyramid. Reasins why, 4.3' native android phone, dual core, 8mp camera, 1.3 front camera. 540x960 qhd resolution.

Kailkti said:
Whilst I do not know which device I want next, I do know it won't be another HTC or a motorola device. Reason being for both motorola and HTC, they've locked down their bootloaders now, so that means no more custom kernels, true root, etc. Also for HTC, snapdragon GPUs just suck, period.
I am keeping a keen eye on the galaxy s 2 however.
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I don't know if i'm mistaken but i think that the devs are working hard on the locked down bootloaders that you mention.. and with a dual core snapdragon the htc pyramid sounds great.. but like you said just keeping an eye on it..
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i think HD2 is the best right now with no comparing,but the time cpu upgraded the heat come more and more without solving,i think HTC should be ware of designing internal component in the future ,most of common problem related to hd2 comes from heat, stuck.freezing and sometimes i have to put mine in freezer to boot, ,

My contract runs out next month and I like to get the latest technology as soon as possible as then the phone retains its value when you want to sell it.
But what will be the next HD2? I love the fact that I can run WP7, Android etc will any phone in the future be so versitile? Probably not.
I'm really not sure whether to just stick with my HD2 or upgrade to the EVO 3D, just a shame it doesnt have a Tegra 2 processor as that would pursade me.

A Tmous HD2 with 1gb rom

@chars
Yes they are working on it. However since HTC just released the source code for the thunderbolt, by which allows devs to truly root the device, maybe HTC isn't following in line with locking bootloaders. If so I will be keeping a keen eye on the pyramid. However since it's an adreno GPU I'm not sure....

Galaxy S II or HTC Sensation replace HD2?

Hey guys,
I am due an upgrade from vodafone UK and am thinking of either a sensation or a galaxy S II and was wondering if anyone here can help me out decide?
As i see it the specs are pretty similar, almost too close to call. AMOLED in the Samsung should give really nice blacks and decent battery i guess, but the biggest thing to separate the 2 is the UI, sense or touchwiz.
I love my HD2 and will keep it to hack around with and flash etc.
Thanks for any thoughts to split the 2 big android phones of the year.

geekyhawkes said:
Hey guys,
I am due an upgrade from vodafone UK and am thinking of either a sensation or a galaxy S II and was wondering if anyone here can help me out decide?
As i see it the specs are pretty similar, almost too close to call. AMOLED in the Samsung should give really nice blacks and decent battery i guess, but the biggest thing to separate the 2 is the UI, sense or touchwiz.
I love my HD2 and will keep it to hack around with and flash etc.
Thanks for any thoughts to split the 2 big android phones of the year.
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As far as straight hardware the SGS2 wins. SAMOLED display, 1ghz ram instead of the 768MB in the sensation. 16gb internal storage instead of the 1gb usable in the sensation (with microsd expandable).
Let's talk software. Go look at the Galaxy S dev section of this forum, then take a look at the HD2, or the Desire, or other HTC devices.
Devs always seem to flock to HTC devices over Samsung.
Compare Sense 3.0 to Touchwiz... Not even close. Sense 3.0 is better in so many ways, aesthetically speaking, functionally speaking, integration with contacts, facebook, better widgets, better everything IMO.
of course, there will be an awesome CM7 for the SGS2 so if you don't care about sense, you may go with this, just remember the lag issues the Vibrant has, and some of the freeze issues and other things I hate about it. The Nexus S seems fine but there again, Google wrote straight code for that without Samsung ****ing it up.
I'm going Sensation personally, but the SGS2 is a phone to be reckoned with...

The one and only issue with SGS2 is the Samsung software, they can and do regularly screw up software on otherwise great phones, the SGS1 was a prime example of that imho.
If they kept closer to the google stock versions it would be my choice, but currently there is no real replacement for the HD2, I may keep mine and go sim only

orangekid said:
As far as straight hardware the SGS2 wins. SAMOLED display, 1ghz ram instead of the 768MB in the sensation. 16gb internal storage instead of the 1gb usable in the sensation (with microsd expandable).
Let's talk software. Go look at the Galaxy S dev section of this forum, then take a look at the HD2, or the Desire, or other HTC devices.
Devs always seem to flock to HTC devices over Samsung.
Compare Sense 3.0 to Touchwiz... Not even close. Sense 3.0 is better in so many ways, aesthetically speaking, functionally speaking, integration with contacts, facebook, better widgets, better everything IMO.
of course, there will be an awesome CM7 for the SGS2 so if you don't care about sense, you may go with this, just remember the lag issues the Vibrant has, and some of the freeze issues and other things I hate about it. The Nexus S seems fine but there again, Google wrote straight code for that without Samsung ****ing it up.
I'm going Sensation personally, but the SGS2 is a phone to be reckoned with...
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Man dang good post, I agree totally with you on the Sensation A.K.A the Pyramid (I still that that was a cooler name). Personally I prefer the option of expandable memory with Micro SD over a fixed internal memory. I mean you do have advantages with a phone with fixed internal memory, but lets face it most devices now days with a quote "imternal memory" are really using a hidden SD card as the memory now and not a NAND chip. The SD card option is much cheaper for manufactures than NAND chips. But I still like being abale to remove my SD card and and use a card reader to transfer big files or print photos from it at a photo printer in store. It is a lot of advantages in havong removable storage to me.
Just my thoughts.

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Man dang good post, I agree totally with you on the Sensation A.K.A the Pyramid (I still that that was a cooler name). Personally I prefer the option of expandable memory with Micro SD over a fixed internal memory. I mean you do have advantages with a phone with fixed internal memory, but lets face it most devices now days with a quote "imternal memory" are really using a hidden SD card as the memory now and not a NAND chip. The SD card option is much cheaper for manufactures than NAND chips. But I still like being abale to remove my SD card and and use a card reader to transfer big files or print photos from it at a photo printer in store. It is a lot of advantages in havong removable storage to me.
Just my thoughts.
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I actually agree with you after looking at it some more, I mean what if you want to move your media to another phone or something? How about if you want to boot a ROM from SD (something some android devices can do). I really hate the raid zero WP7 phones do with the SD, and although Android treats it differently, IMO NAND + microSD is the way to go.
I also agree the "Pyramid" is a cooler name. This will be my next device and worthy of upgrading my HD2 to. Samsung cannot code for **** and they would be better off making phones and having Google write their code or putting their hardware in iPhones (like they've been doing)

not swayed yet...
orangekid said:
As far as straight hardware the SGS2 wins. SAMOLED display, 1ghz ram instead of the 768MB in the sensation. 16gb internal storage instead of the 1gb usable in the sensation (with microsd expandable).
Let's talk software. Go look at the Galaxy S dev section of this forum, then take a look at the HD2, or the Desire, or other HTC devices.
Devs always seem to flock to HTC devices over Samsung.
Compare Sense 3.0 to Touchwiz... Not even close. Sense 3.0 is better in so many ways, aesthetically speaking, functionally speaking, integration with contacts, facebook, better widgets, better everything IMO.
of course, there will be an awesome CM7 for the SGS2 so if you don't care about sense, you may go with this, just remember the lag issues the Vibrant has, and some of the freeze issues and other things I hate about it. The Nexus S seems fine but there again, Google wrote straight code for that without Samsung ****ing it up.
I'm going Sensation personally, but the SGS2 is a phone to be reckoned with...
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Good points. I have been seeing a lot of reviews lately of the Sensation. I have been waiting for a phone of its ilk for a while. However, from being an HD2 user, I really wanted to see power and battery life improved in the next phone i get. I am now an HTC lover, but I am really having a hard time understanding why they are lowering the bar on some of their new releases - especially the sensation.
It was a little odd that the sensation has less ram AND a poorer battery than the upcoming EVO 3d (which I am already getting grief from my Sprint friends), but after reading this review http://pulsene.ws/1HKxA I find out that it is not even up to speed with the competition. The first two paragraphs were eye openers.
I really don't want to jump the gun, like I did with the hd2 over waiting for the hd7. AND now I read that the Sensation Bootloader is locked as well?!?!? I am not saying that I will not get it, but I really don't understand why HTC is intentionally coming out the gate with a product that is behind.

Mmm ask Sony Ericsson that too. I think it's because general consumers could care less about the performance specs of a phone. E.g. Does it look good? How much Megapixels does it have? Front facing camera? HD video? How much storage? Touch screen? Lots of apps? Games? wifi? Does it work with 3g? How much is it? etc. Frig I don't care if the bootloader is locked, I don't even know what that is. That's something a general consumer would say.
Anyways I find the sgs 2 more appealing. Well mostly cuz of the overall space it can hold and the camera. 64 gb of space will rid me of my paranoia of the limits of memory, plus if the rumor of it holding a 64 gb sd card was true, well, "I love you". With all that space I can say goodbye to carrying around two sd cards and my zune lawl. And the fact that the sensation's bootloader is locked and i have no idea how long the "real" development of the device is gonna take.

Kailkti said:
Mmm ask Sony Ericsson that too. I think it's because general consumers could care less about the performance specs of a phone. E.g. Does it look good? How much Megapixels does it have? Front facing camera? HD video? How much storage? Touch screen? Lots of apps? Games? wifi? Does it work with 3g? How much is it? etc. Frig I don't care if the bootloader is locked, I don't even know what that is. That's something a general consumer would say.
Anyways I find the sgs 2 more appealing. Well mostly cuz of the overall space it can hold and the camera. 64 gb of space will rid me of my paranoia of the limits of memory, plus if the rumor of it holding a 64 gb sd card was true, well, "I love you". With all that space I can say goodbye to carrying around two sd cards and my zune lawl. And the fact that the sensation's bootloader is locked and i have no idea how long the "real" development of the device is gonna take.
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I would rather have an Htc Sensations. I tried the ported one in my DZ, it looks awesome
Since you mentioned Soner, I should say Soner Xperia Arc is a good device.
But, it is not the best device. However, the Bravia Engine makes different display quality. It is so real, that's why they call it "Reality Display"
Cheers...

I have the same dilemma.
I went to see the Sensation and it was nothing special compared to my HD2, I like more the software in mine (CM7), the screen is too long and it is difficult to reach the notifications.
SGS2, The only Con I see is that is missing the notification light, and I'm addicted to it, I had the chance to buy it in Amsterdam but I didn't bc of this (not to mention the $850).
I'm waiting for something with 4.0 inches like the Incredible S..but I don't feel safe buying it bc it doesn't have warranty in the US.
My perfect phone would be the Nexus S with a good notification light..not BLN.

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Hey guys,
I am due an upgrade from vodafone UK and am thinking of either a sensation or a galaxy S II and was wondering if anyone here can help me out decide?
As i see it the specs are pretty similar, almost too close to call. AMOLED in the Samsung should give really nice blacks and decent battery i guess, but the biggest thing to separate the 2 is the UI, sense or touchwiz.
I love my HD2 and will keep it to hack around with and flash etc.
Thanks for any thoughts to split the 2 big android phones of the year.
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I faced the same question, I got the Sensation and am Super excited with it. Our root comes in by the end of the week, and we already have a couple of custom roms going. Definitely go for the sensation!

Well there are apps for you to use the LED buttons as a notification LED so not really a drawback.
Anyways it depends on what you want. If you want a super smooth experience, the sgs 2 is a good go, obviously from it having the best speced phone.
The sensation is smooth also, but not as much as the sgs 2 since sense is eating away. But as said as above, you get a complete experience with sense, meaning sense has functionality that other phones simply don't have.
One big drawback I find with the sensation however is that we are only left with i think 200mb ram. Now that is just sad for a device as itself. With the sgs 2, you are left with 500+, so you can expect yourself not to be lagging from no memory.
Now really, I can keep talking and talking, but as you see, my talking is biased towards the sgs 2, as i do think it is the superior, but that shouldn't persuade you. Really you should be out there trying out both devices, and then be choosing which, not letting me persuade you to buy "this phone". Man cannot be a follower forever.

First part of my Sensation Vs SGSII review now up http://t.co/oMbZwvn
Also upcoming video showing the SGSII Vs Sensation in playing my test video clips (range of codecs etc - 1080p/720p/MKV/high profile/DTS, AC3, Vorbis, dual audio sound/internal MKV subs, external subs etc).

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The one and only issue with SGS2 is the Samsung software, they can and do regularly screw up software on otherwise great phones, the SGS1 was a prime example of that imho.
If they kept closer to the google stock versions it would be my choice, but currently there is no real replacement for the HD2, I may keep mine and go sim only
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Samsung's software on the SGSII seems to be lag free. I am yet to see any complain of any lag whatsoever.

None. Well at least if you get the Sensation you'll be bored, after having an HD2. Not a worthy upgrade I think. SGSII is well... Idk, it doesn't convince me. W8 for the next HTC maybe.
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1ghz ram instead of the 768MB
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1 "ghz" of ram?? lol
hmm, I think you are confusing RAM and CPU

Count me in for the same debate 'should I go Sensation or Sgs2'.
I had the advantage to play with both devices at once for a couple of hours.
Personally I would say Samsung.
Yes, the software is not as good as the Sensation (note the 'not as' meaning it is not bad) but the hardware is top notch.
The screen of the SGS2 is very very good, even outside in the sun you see something which to me is important.
I also did some video tests and the Samsung wins. Less autofocus and luminance hunting, overal a much more stabile video than the oversharped and overcompressed Sensation video.
The speakers on the Samsung, well you can hear them unlike the tweeter sound on the Sensation.
The fact that they have donated a SGS2 to the CM team makes me think they want us to develop the ultimate machine which I really like since Android is and should be open source. Their native roms work ok for the crowd so why not have a team develope the ultimate for the xda kind of people. Very clever and wise Samsung.
Ok the body of the SGS2 is made out of plastic but what is not and there is a lot of quality difference in plastic. At least it absorbs when it falls.
Mmm by writing this I think I have made my mind up

Wait for galaxy with faster cpu ;-)
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any phone of what so ever but no comparison to our beloved hd2..... body is awsm... and when u are buying a phone like sgs2 or sensation... u wont be thinking that the body will absorb the shock on falling cause when ull have it in ur hand ull be praying for its wellbeing and not falling ... and yes wait for evo3d

I have both the HD2 and the SGS2 (Stolen last saturday, but insurance will get me another one.)
I dont regret for a second that I preordered the SGS2, it outpreforms my HD2 by far. The screen is extremely good and the phone is stunningly lightweight, everyone who has held it has made comments on the weight. Batterytime is also alot better.
Regarding Touchwiz; I don't use it..Same goes for Sense on my previous HTC's
To me it seem like HTC tend to use cheap components in a lot of their phones, for example the speakers in all my HTC's have sucked compared to SGS2.
People say SGS can seem "plasticy" but I dont agree, everything is solid and non "squeeky" with the exeption of the button beneath the screen(my subjective opinion)
I would not hesitate for a second going for the SGS2, but thats me..
I am sure, CM7, Sense and MIUI will come to the SGS2 as more developers focus on this killer phone..
Sgs2 becoming the new HD2, would for sure be a dream come true

awsm...... if sgs2 gets customisation like hd2 .... damn .... a real dream will come true...