Hey guys,
I am due an upgrade from vodafone UK and am thinking of either a sensation or a galaxy S II and was wondering if anyone here can help me out decide?
As i see it the specs are pretty similar, almost too close to call. AMOLED in the Samsung should give really nice blacks and decent battery i guess, but the biggest thing to separate the 2 is the UI, sense or touchwiz.
I love my HD2 and will keep it to hack around with and flash etc.
Thanks for any thoughts to split the 2 big android phones of the year.
geekyhawkes said:
Hey guys,
I am due an upgrade from vodafone UK and am thinking of either a sensation or a galaxy S II and was wondering if anyone here can help me out decide?
As i see it the specs are pretty similar, almost too close to call. AMOLED in the Samsung should give really nice blacks and decent battery i guess, but the biggest thing to separate the 2 is the UI, sense or touchwiz.
I love my HD2 and will keep it to hack around with and flash etc.
Thanks for any thoughts to split the 2 big android phones of the year.
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As far as straight hardware the SGS2 wins. SAMOLED display, 1ghz ram instead of the 768MB in the sensation. 16gb internal storage instead of the 1gb usable in the sensation (with microsd expandable).
Let's talk software. Go look at the Galaxy S dev section of this forum, then take a look at the HD2, or the Desire, or other HTC devices.
Devs always seem to flock to HTC devices over Samsung.
Compare Sense 3.0 to Touchwiz... Not even close. Sense 3.0 is better in so many ways, aesthetically speaking, functionally speaking, integration with contacts, facebook, better widgets, better everything IMO.
of course, there will be an awesome CM7 for the SGS2 so if you don't care about sense, you may go with this, just remember the lag issues the Vibrant has, and some of the freeze issues and other things I hate about it. The Nexus S seems fine but there again, Google wrote straight code for that without Samsung ****ing it up.
I'm going Sensation personally, but the SGS2 is a phone to be reckoned with...
The one and only issue with SGS2 is the Samsung software, they can and do regularly screw up software on otherwise great phones, the SGS1 was a prime example of that imho.
If they kept closer to the google stock versions it would be my choice, but currently there is no real replacement for the HD2, I may keep mine and go sim only
orangekid said:
As far as straight hardware the SGS2 wins. SAMOLED display, 1ghz ram instead of the 768MB in the sensation. 16gb internal storage instead of the 1gb usable in the sensation (with microsd expandable).
Let's talk software. Go look at the Galaxy S dev section of this forum, then take a look at the HD2, or the Desire, or other HTC devices.
Devs always seem to flock to HTC devices over Samsung.
Compare Sense 3.0 to Touchwiz... Not even close. Sense 3.0 is better in so many ways, aesthetically speaking, functionally speaking, integration with contacts, facebook, better widgets, better everything IMO.
of course, there will be an awesome CM7 for the SGS2 so if you don't care about sense, you may go with this, just remember the lag issues the Vibrant has, and some of the freeze issues and other things I hate about it. The Nexus S seems fine but there again, Google wrote straight code for that without Samsung ****ing it up.
I'm going Sensation personally, but the SGS2 is a phone to be reckoned with...
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Man dang good post, I agree totally with you on the Sensation A.K.A the Pyramid (I still that that was a cooler name). Personally I prefer the option of expandable memory with Micro SD over a fixed internal memory. I mean you do have advantages with a phone with fixed internal memory, but lets face it most devices now days with a quote "imternal memory" are really using a hidden SD card as the memory now and not a NAND chip. The SD card option is much cheaper for manufactures than NAND chips. But I still like being abale to remove my SD card and and use a card reader to transfer big files or print photos from it at a photo printer in store. It is a lot of advantages in havong removable storage to me.
Just my thoughts.
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Man dang good post, I agree totally with you on the Sensation A.K.A the Pyramid (I still that that was a cooler name). Personally I prefer the option of expandable memory with Micro SD over a fixed internal memory. I mean you do have advantages with a phone with fixed internal memory, but lets face it most devices now days with a quote "imternal memory" are really using a hidden SD card as the memory now and not a NAND chip. The SD card option is much cheaper for manufactures than NAND chips. But I still like being abale to remove my SD card and and use a card reader to transfer big files or print photos from it at a photo printer in store. It is a lot of advantages in havong removable storage to me.
Just my thoughts.
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I actually agree with you after looking at it some more, I mean what if you want to move your media to another phone or something? How about if you want to boot a ROM from SD (something some android devices can do). I really hate the raid zero WP7 phones do with the SD, and although Android treats it differently, IMO NAND + microSD is the way to go.
I also agree the "Pyramid" is a cooler name. This will be my next device and worthy of upgrading my HD2 to. Samsung cannot code for **** and they would be better off making phones and having Google write their code or putting their hardware in iPhones (like they've been doing)
not swayed yet...
orangekid said:
As far as straight hardware the SGS2 wins. SAMOLED display, 1ghz ram instead of the 768MB in the sensation. 16gb internal storage instead of the 1gb usable in the sensation (with microsd expandable).
Let's talk software. Go look at the Galaxy S dev section of this forum, then take a look at the HD2, or the Desire, or other HTC devices.
Devs always seem to flock to HTC devices over Samsung.
Compare Sense 3.0 to Touchwiz... Not even close. Sense 3.0 is better in so many ways, aesthetically speaking, functionally speaking, integration with contacts, facebook, better widgets, better everything IMO.
of course, there will be an awesome CM7 for the SGS2 so if you don't care about sense, you may go with this, just remember the lag issues the Vibrant has, and some of the freeze issues and other things I hate about it. The Nexus S seems fine but there again, Google wrote straight code for that without Samsung ****ing it up.
I'm going Sensation personally, but the SGS2 is a phone to be reckoned with...
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Good points. I have been seeing a lot of reviews lately of the Sensation. I have been waiting for a phone of its ilk for a while. However, from being an HD2 user, I really wanted to see power and battery life improved in the next phone i get. I am now an HTC lover, but I am really having a hard time understanding why they are lowering the bar on some of their new releases - especially the sensation.
It was a little odd that the sensation has less ram AND a poorer battery than the upcoming EVO 3d (which I am already getting grief from my Sprint friends), but after reading this review http://pulsene.ws/1HKxA I find out that it is not even up to speed with the competition. The first two paragraphs were eye openers.
I really don't want to jump the gun, like I did with the hd2 over waiting for the hd7. AND now I read that the Sensation Bootloader is locked as well?!?!? I am not saying that I will not get it, but I really don't understand why HTC is intentionally coming out the gate with a product that is behind.
Mmm ask Sony Ericsson that too. I think it's because general consumers could care less about the performance specs of a phone. E.g. Does it look good? How much Megapixels does it have? Front facing camera? HD video? How much storage? Touch screen? Lots of apps? Games? wifi? Does it work with 3g? How much is it? etc. Frig I don't care if the bootloader is locked, I don't even know what that is. That's something a general consumer would say.
Anyways I find the sgs 2 more appealing. Well mostly cuz of the overall space it can hold and the camera. 64 gb of space will rid me of my paranoia of the limits of memory, plus if the rumor of it holding a 64 gb sd card was true, well, "I love you". With all that space I can say goodbye to carrying around two sd cards and my zune lawl. And the fact that the sensation's bootloader is locked and i have no idea how long the "real" development of the device is gonna take.
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Mmm ask Sony Ericsson that too. I think it's because general consumers could care less about the performance specs of a phone. E.g. Does it look good? How much Megapixels does it have? Front facing camera? HD video? How much storage? Touch screen? Lots of apps? Games? wifi? Does it work with 3g? How much is it? etc. Frig I don't care if the bootloader is locked, I don't even know what that is. That's something a general consumer would say.
Anyways I find the sgs 2 more appealing. Well mostly cuz of the overall space it can hold and the camera. 64 gb of space will rid me of my paranoia of the limits of memory, plus if the rumor of it holding a 64 gb sd card was true, well, "I love you". With all that space I can say goodbye to carrying around two sd cards and my zune lawl. And the fact that the sensation's bootloader is locked and i have no idea how long the "real" development of the device is gonna take.
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I would rather have an Htc Sensations. I tried the ported one in my DZ, it looks awesome
Since you mentioned Soner, I should say Soner Xperia Arc is a good device.
But, it is not the best device. However, the Bravia Engine makes different display quality. It is so real, that's why they call it "Reality Display"
Cheers...
I have the same dilemma.
I went to see the Sensation and it was nothing special compared to my HD2, I like more the software in mine (CM7), the screen is too long and it is difficult to reach the notifications.
SGS2, The only Con I see is that is missing the notification light, and I'm addicted to it, I had the chance to buy it in Amsterdam but I didn't bc of this (not to mention the $850).
I'm waiting for something with 4.0 inches like the Incredible S..but I don't feel safe buying it bc it doesn't have warranty in the US.
My perfect phone would be the Nexus S with a good notification light..not BLN.
geekyhawkes said:
Hey guys,
I am due an upgrade from vodafone UK and am thinking of either a sensation or a galaxy S II and was wondering if anyone here can help me out decide?
As i see it the specs are pretty similar, almost too close to call. AMOLED in the Samsung should give really nice blacks and decent battery i guess, but the biggest thing to separate the 2 is the UI, sense or touchwiz.
I love my HD2 and will keep it to hack around with and flash etc.
Thanks for any thoughts to split the 2 big android phones of the year.
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I faced the same question, I got the Sensation and am Super excited with it. Our root comes in by the end of the week, and we already have a couple of custom roms going. Definitely go for the sensation!
Well there are apps for you to use the LED buttons as a notification LED so not really a drawback.
Anyways it depends on what you want. If you want a super smooth experience, the sgs 2 is a good go, obviously from it having the best speced phone.
The sensation is smooth also, but not as much as the sgs 2 since sense is eating away. But as said as above, you get a complete experience with sense, meaning sense has functionality that other phones simply don't have.
One big drawback I find with the sensation however is that we are only left with i think 200mb ram. Now that is just sad for a device as itself. With the sgs 2, you are left with 500+, so you can expect yourself not to be lagging from no memory.
Now really, I can keep talking and talking, but as you see, my talking is biased towards the sgs 2, as i do think it is the superior, but that shouldn't persuade you. Really you should be out there trying out both devices, and then be choosing which, not letting me persuade you to buy "this phone". Man cannot be a follower forever.
First part of my Sensation Vs SGSII review now up http://t.co/oMbZwvn
Also upcoming video showing the SGSII Vs Sensation in playing my test video clips (range of codecs etc - 1080p/720p/MKV/high profile/DTS, AC3, Vorbis, dual audio sound/internal MKV subs, external subs etc).
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The one and only issue with SGS2 is the Samsung software, they can and do regularly screw up software on otherwise great phones, the SGS1 was a prime example of that imho.
If they kept closer to the google stock versions it would be my choice, but currently there is no real replacement for the HD2, I may keep mine and go sim only
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Samsung's software on the SGSII seems to be lag free. I am yet to see any complain of any lag whatsoever.
None. Well at least if you get the Sensation you'll be bored, after having an HD2. Not a worthy upgrade I think. SGSII is well... Idk, it doesn't convince me. W8 for the next HTC maybe.
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1ghz ram instead of the 768MB
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1 "ghz" of ram?? lol
hmm, I think you are confusing RAM and CPU
Count me in for the same debate 'should I go Sensation or Sgs2'.
I had the advantage to play with both devices at once for a couple of hours.
Personally I would say Samsung.
Yes, the software is not as good as the Sensation (note the 'not as' meaning it is not bad) but the hardware is top notch.
The screen of the SGS2 is very very good, even outside in the sun you see something which to me is important.
I also did some video tests and the Samsung wins. Less autofocus and luminance hunting, overal a much more stabile video than the oversharped and overcompressed Sensation video.
The speakers on the Samsung, well you can hear them unlike the tweeter sound on the Sensation.
The fact that they have donated a SGS2 to the CM team makes me think they want us to develop the ultimate machine which I really like since Android is and should be open source. Their native roms work ok for the crowd so why not have a team develope the ultimate for the xda kind of people. Very clever and wise Samsung.
Ok the body of the SGS2 is made out of plastic but what is not and there is a lot of quality difference in plastic. At least it absorbs when it falls.
Mmm by writing this I think I have made my mind up
Wait for galaxy with faster cpu ;-)
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any phone of what so ever but no comparison to our beloved hd2..... body is awsm... and when u are buying a phone like sgs2 or sensation... u wont be thinking that the body will absorb the shock on falling cause when ull have it in ur hand ull be praying for its wellbeing and not falling ... and yes wait for evo3d
I have both the HD2 and the SGS2 (Stolen last saturday, but insurance will get me another one.)
I dont regret for a second that I preordered the SGS2, it outpreforms my HD2 by far. The screen is extremely good and the phone is stunningly lightweight, everyone who has held it has made comments on the weight. Batterytime is also alot better.
Regarding Touchwiz; I don't use it..Same goes for Sense on my previous HTC's
To me it seem like HTC tend to use cheap components in a lot of their phones, for example the speakers in all my HTC's have sucked compared to SGS2.
People say SGS can seem "plasticy" but I dont agree, everything is solid and non "squeeky" with the exeption of the button beneath the screen(my subjective opinion)
I would not hesitate for a second going for the SGS2, but thats me..
I am sure, CM7, Sense and MIUI will come to the SGS2 as more developers focus on this killer phone..
Sgs2 becoming the new HD2, would for sure be a dream come true
awsm...... if sgs2 gets customisation like hd2 .... damn .... a real dream will come true...
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I never thought I'd say this, but I was under the impression that Samsung's new lineup would be using their own OS (Bada) rather than Android...I've now heard different and done some snooping.
I've hated Samsung phones, but OMG...
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Cellphonehardwarecompari1.png
Just take a look at that!!!
I've got another two weeks that I can return my Evo...should I keep it or wait for Galaxy S?
I mean just look at that - less power consumption, AMOLED screen, much faster GPU, faster RAM
I just got this Evo and I feel like something better is already coming out...
Dude I'm in the same boat as you I just got it and I heard about the galaxy s but after doing more research it seems like my evo is already outdated in some aspects by the galaxy s. I heard rumors its gonna be on t-mobile too and I canceled my contract with them to get the evo. But as I said its better only in a few ways. I wanna see reviews for it but by the time the galaxy s is out I won't be able to return the evo. I'm in a dilemma especially after the problems with the evo like battery life subpar 8 megapixel camera and 720p video and the 30 fps cap (that one gets me pissed) .- I wonder what other ppl at xda have to say- imma be watching this thread.
im returning my evo for the samsung galaxy s pro (with qwerty keyboard) for sprint.
I'm also very interested in the Galaxy. I love the Evo but the screen problem has got me thinking twice and I'm not too happy with how thick the Evo feels to me compared to my HD2. I understand that the Galaxy has a CPU with the same clock speed but tests have shown it to perform better along with the GPU as mentioned. The much slimmer profile sounds very good to me and the lack of a camera flash is a letdown but one I could live with.
Samsung is known for not supporting their phones after release but they have confirmed that the Galaxy will be updated with Froyo. On 2G the battery is rated for talk time longer than the iPhone 4G and is of course replaceable. Also 16GB built-in + add a 32GB micro sd card and you have more storage than nearly any smartphone.
Here is the best review (9 pages) I've found on the Galaxy:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-review-478.php
true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).
But it's a Samsung...
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Dan330 said:
true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).
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G1toEVO4G said:
im returning my evo for the samsung galaxy s pro (with qwerty keyboard) for sprint.
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That's better than htc who puts out phones with glaring problems and then stops supporting them. I haven't had an htc Pune since the tilt. I was hoping they had changed so I could get an evo, but apparently they haven't. I'm liking the galaxy s pro right now.
Dan330 said:
true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).
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LOL....
True, but HTC's record is just as pathetic.
We'll see when we will have a bug fix release and maybe in 10 months Froyo...
The Galaxy is nice, but if you like the developing and deep hacking and customizing.
HTC is the way to go.
yeah you guys are right - i know samsungs phones tend to sound good on paper and turn out not that great after all. happened a couple of times before. wanted to love their phones, but just couldnt.
besides the galaxy s looks pretty ugly compared to the evo
ok is it me or does this thing REALLY look like an iphone clone? Don't get me wrong the specs are good, but that Touchwiz overlay is a huge negative for me. In addition the only advantages I see the Galaxy S as having is the internal storage (which doesn't matter to me because I haven't even filled up my 16gb card half way yet, so an extra 8/16gb of storage doesn't excite me), the screen resolution (I'd rather have less resolution and a larger screen though), and the processor (same clock speed but faster gpu, seeing as I don't do an extensive amount of gaming on my phone I couldn't careless about that. Not to mention the gaming I do with games such as Gangstar and Nova, which are 3d environments, run perfectly fine). The disadvantages for me would be: lack of 4g (I get great 4g coverage here in Atlanta and also get good speeds on it 4-8megs), lack of camera flash, does not come with flash (you will have to wait until froyo, or install a custom rom to do any browsing that involves flash), and below average speakerphone. The phone looks like a decent phone but it does not have enough advantages for me to make a switch. Just my opinion.
I'll pass on the samsung. I'm really not digging their skinning either. With their post support issues I think I'd rather deal with apple and the iphone or motorola and their new high end droid. That said I'm not going to go and get raped by verizon, I don't want to get raped by at&t either and I'm happy with my evo.
HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC
mysterioustko said:
ok is it me or does this thing REALLY look like an iphone clone? Don't get me wrong the specs are good, but that Touchwiz overlay is a huge negative for me. In addition the only advantages I see the Galaxy S as having is the internal storage (which doesn't matter to me because I haven't even filled up my 16gb card half way yet, so an extra 8/16gb of storage doesn't excite me), the screen resolution (I'd rather have less resolution and a larger screen though), and the processor (same clock speed but faster gpu, seeing as I don't do an extensive amount of gaming on my phone I couldn't careless about that. Not to mention the gaming I do with games such as Gangstar and Nova, which are 3d environments, run perfectly fine). The disadvantages for me would be: lack of 4g (I get great 4g coverage here in Atlanta and also get good speeds on it 4-8megs), lack of camera flash, does not come with flash (you will have to wait until froyo, or install a custom rom to do any browsing that involves flash), and below average speakerphone. The phone looks like a decent phone but it does not have enough advantages for me to make a switch. Just my opinion.
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I agree about the looks! It looks way too much like an iPhone and the UI screenshots don't make it look any better. But have you seen the long demo video on YouTube? I forget which one it was, but I have to admit I was pretty impressed by the way it all flowed and this is coming from a guy who loves HTC Sense.
For someone like me, the extra 16GB would mean that I could ditch my iPod 160GB Classic and just have one device (I like to keep all my music and audiobooks on one device). Also reported by a few different blogs, the Galaxy screen is better and the hummingbird is reported too as being faster than the snapdragon in our Evos. And I guess I'm alone in this, but the super slim profile is a huge plus to me. But that back cover is pretty ugly. I'd really just like to demo this thing myself, with my Evo in hand and then decide. I'd also like to do the same with the iPhone 4G. These devices coming out on different dates, sure does making the choice making that much harder.........
man look how responsive it is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOHlx0BZ2Y&feature=related
frikin amazing
Any ideas what career its going to be on?
toastcfh said:
HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC
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You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix
denny_1986 said:
man look how responsive it is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOHlx0BZ2Y&feature=related
frikin amazing
Any ideas what career its going to be on?
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I keep reading different carriers. Samsung has said they want the device to be on every carrier in every country and so if that holds true then it will be on all but my question is who will have it first late this month or next month as reported. I have seen some screenshots, showing T-Mobile account data on a Galaxy screen, but now I'm hearing Verizon and ATT as well.......
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You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix
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bahahaahh not entirely true about motorla and samsung but still funny ahah
timgt said:
You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix
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naw i like them because they build quality devices and have awesome customer support. i feel they do things right for the most part. i bet after u get done waiting for root on the samsung ull be trying to fix just as many things. also xda and all the other dev communities for HTC devices are well rounded and have a major following. HTC has been spiting out awesome devices for a long time. ive been hooked since my Axim X50v. that was back in 03
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HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC
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I'm with you all the way on it, i like how motorola designed the droid X but not their software, and I wouldn't get a motorola anyways.
Two days ago operator made me an offer of any smartphone for free, I narrowed it down to the most expensive hehe: Iphone 4, Desire HD or a sgs and don't know which to buy. This is a once time deal I can't wait for dual cores and whatever else comes out next year I need to reach a decision this week.
What should I buy? I have seen and used all OSs . The only thing I like about the ios is the app store, I generally dislike Apple and Idrones.
I'm relatively tech savvy (in the non-douchy kinda way xD
Except some minor annoyances here and there I love android. Can any one give some advice? Thx and ho ho ho
iPhones kinda nice but not as much for the geek in you.
HD Desire ??
SGS awesome phone. Too bad they're blowing up left right and center.
Android app store is choke full of goodies and I've found cool stuff my bro can't get on his iphone4
Imo the SGS, the screen is just beautiful and the processor is a monster compared to the Desire HD and iPhone 4 is just not my cup of tea.
SGS will most likely be more optimised after Nexus S is release, I realy think it's already fast and powerfull, and it will only get better!
Camera is amazing and Night mode is franckly pretty amazing, you'd get more than what you can see!
HD Videos is pretty good also!
Sync is all with your GMail account, so pretty simple and straight forward. You can sync your outlook with GMail if needed.
And if you need to access the files on the device, the USB can be mounted so it's pretty fast to transfer things.
Only down I can see on the SGS is the "sometime" flawing GPS, not all the time but can be anoying sometimes :|
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SGS awesome phone. Too bad they're blowing up left right and center.
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Say whaat?
I think you should go for the Desire HD. It's got 768 MB of RAM vs. the 340 MB available (out of a claimed 512 MB) on the SGS. And it's got a bigger screen, almost an equally powerful processor, very snappy, and it's already got 2.3 Gingerbread.
If you need a powerhouse for games, SGS is the way to go though. Nothing matches it's GPU at the moment.
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I think you should go for the Desire HD. It's got 768 MB of RAM vs. the 340 MB available (out of a claimed 512 MB) on the SGS. And it's got a bigger screen, almost an equally powerful processor, very snappy, and it's already got 2.3 Gingerbread.
If you need a powerhouse for games, SGS is the way to go though. Nothing matches it's GPU at the moment.
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but i hear the battery wont hold me the entire day thats kinda important for me
and how does it have gingerbread ? the nexus s isnt even out yet i assume its just ripped from the emulator
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The internal SDCards are crapping out...
hmmm isnt that becouse of the ****ty samsung filesystem and/or bad kernel
and should i be concerned about only 339 ram?
Buy the iPhone 4, sell it for $600-$800 off contract, buy whatever phone you want. Personally I'd says Desire HD simply because Sense is much better than Touchwiz and it has the Sense.com features (free remote wipe, GPS tracking, text through phone through website, etc). However, the battery is kind of weak so I'd recommend a bigger one if you can find one.
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but i hear the battery wont hold me the entire day thats kinda important for me
and how does it have gingerbread ? the nexus s isnt even out yet i assume its just ripped from the emulator
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They ported it from Nexus One to Evo, and Desire HD is basically a variant of Evo
Damm I'm more confused now than when I started...
Iphone: don't really like how it feels in my hand, really small screen, absolutely no customization whatsoever.
good things: apps, no major bugs and better shades of blue lol.
Desire HD: seems to have the worst hardware out of the three (cpu and gpu) piece if crap battery, seems if it falls once is over, ****ty battery and sim cover and imo the camera that sticks out like the evo is really effing ugly
Good things: most ram out of the three, htcsense.com, biggest screen (preferences but I think 4" is perfect)
SGS: plagued by software bugs apparently, random data corruption, no flash, needs most tweaking out of the box
Good things: best screen cpu & gpu, the nexus s is almost the same phone which means better development porting the works(here's hoping) and best battery life
By comparison seems that the sgs wins overall categories
Its easy. If you want the best smartphone the its sgs.
Iphone is not as good many say.
I did have one and i did sell it.
Iphone has more good games. That's the only good with it.
The rest is much better with sgs.
HD phone is not better either.
It has more serious flaw then both sgs and iphone together.
Sgs is a powerhouse and it got the best screen of all phones.
Sure sgs can be laggy out of the box, but that is easy to fix.
So right now there is not a phone that's has anything to compete with.
The sgs will win it all the time.
**Using my own JPU kernel, z4mod, 339MB Ram and ext2 filesystem**
My father has an iphone3g and my uncle has the iphone 4 I jailbreaked it for him honestly I wasn't that impressed with the phone. The only thing I like about it is the apps mainly the games are much more refined than on android phones
Also why has the sgs only have 340ram ? On every page I looked it says 512. Will that bite us on the ass later I mean the dhd almost has 800 and phones are moving on 1gb .are you telling me the sgs has as much ram as my old ass hero?
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Also why has the sgs only have 340ram ? On every page I looked it says 512. Will that bite us on the ass later I mean the dhd almost has 800 and phones are moving on 1gb .are you telling me the sgs has as much ram as my old ass hero?
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It does use a 512MB chip, but only ~340MB of it is visible after you're booted up. Out of the other ~172MB, there's around 40MB that's unaccounted for (we don't know where its being used) and the rest of it is "reserved" (even when the functions it's reserved for are not in use) for stuff like video playback, 3G calling etc.
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I'd have to say i agree with Product F(RED)
Desire HD is the best phone on the list IMHO. But getting the ipoop and selling on will mean you can get the HD desire and still have some cash in your pocket
sgs is the best (imho!) it's a pain out of the box but that's why we love it so much, let's face it, most of us like tweaking and playing with our phones, it's half the fun. Flashing new roms, installing different lagfixes, uninstalling new roms, uninstalling new lagfixes, whoops I've broken it, nope, it's going again. The sgs is a geeks wet dream and in my experience it is very difficult to fully brick.
So if you want a phone that you are going to have to fiddle with, get the sgs. Jpu seems to have ironed out a lot of problems, I get perfect gps now, although it was pretty good before. I'm actually a little disapointed that jpu works so well, it kinda takes the fun out of it all
If this doesn't appeal to you then get the hd, it's a good phone, screen is not as good and it doesn't feel as fast as my tweaked sgs, but overall it's definitely a winner and you won't be disapointed
The iphone is also a good phone and not to be sniffed at, if you don't mind being spoon fed by apple.
i have to say SGS, because of the most powerful hardware, software is not important, because we can fix that easy , as surprise Samsung also tries there best, i think with JPU Firmware they show that they are willing todo everything, Hardware we can't fix, SGS has currently the fastest CPU + GPU specially the GPU!!!!! is amazing, why do you think Google went with Nexus S , because of Hardware, Speed, Quality, Availability.......
Nexus S and Android 2.3 Gingerbread was made to give game developers the best available Hardware and with Gingerbread many things which will make Game development easier and because of the CPU + GPU, which is almost the same as Iphone 4 has (SGS a little bit better), it will also make porting games from iphone to android pretty easy now.
About HTC Sense i agree it is a nice homescreen, but on the other hand it is a memory, cpu and battery monster! why do you think they have 768MB Memory and if we look at different homescreen replacements (ADW, Laucher Pro, Zeam,.......), then i really don't see the big advantage at all, but thats a taste decission
So for me i have to say i am very happy that i went with the SGS, i really can't understand users who say that the SGS is built cheap, i have the SGS now since the beginning, i don't use a screenprotector, the plastic is thin but it still looks like new also after falling on the floor (shame on me), compared to my previous HTC Units which where loosing color on there great metal casing and not by falling on the floor but because i used a leather case, the signal was often a issue for me (metal), dust was behind the screen after a short time,........
I have to say that the Samsung Hardware is such an improvement compared to HTC that i won't anytime soon look back to any HTC unit even if it would have a killler hardware.
But that are just my 2 cents on it
Go for the iPhone 4 unless you really need flash. It has the best screen of the three(the pentile matrix of the SGS is just horrible) and works correctly out of the box.
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Go for the iPhone 4 unless you really need flash. It has the best screen of the three(the pentile matrix of the SGS is just horrible) and works correctly out of the box.
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Care to elaborate on this? The iphone does have a gorgeous screen, but to call the sgs screen horrible is a bit like saying that Angelina Jolie is a dog. Sure there are better looking girls out there than her, but would you kick her out of bed? Most definitely not, unless you bat for the other team of coursee, in such a case swap angelina for brad or whom ever floats your boat.
Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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I know exactly what you mean, yesterday i was with a friend that bought the S2, I was so jealous ), but only until we putted our phones side by side, there wasn´t a difference between speeds, the screen is much bright of course, but it feels somewhat artificial to me, the camera has very nice colors, more vivid than the HD2 runing Android, better but not huge difference, and what blowed me away was that my HD2 was faster to open some apps, I know that the his S2 is bone stock but that reminded me that the time to upgrade to something new hasn´t come yet, and when i started to boot 4 different roms my friend couldn´t believe it..
The HD2 is still a great phone..
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Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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So how's web browsing, pinch to zoom, scrolling when the page is loading (on default browser) & ofc, flash video/website loading times?
awesome post. Exactly the info I needed. Yeah, waiting is the best bet (if you can wait)
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So how's web browsing, pinch to zoom, scrolling when the page is loading (on default browser) & ofc, flash video/website loading times?
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All of those are about the same on Sensation stock as they are on HD2 CM7...
This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance
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This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance
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Well, we are comparing custom ROMs with bloated stock ROMs so it's not really fair.
If you loaded up a fully working CM7 ROM on a sensation it would obliterate the HD2, but that is far off, so for now the HD2 for me is the preferred phone. I may even wait for some quad core action before I upgrade.
with hd2 in some ROMs you can get 3000 points in quadrant with a bit of overclocking and of course playing around ppp/rmnet, switching roms, you can go up 3,3mbps in download, but we got an awesome development on this awesome phone, and we're still waiting for new Desire Kernel and GB to solve all current problems
i will not buy the htc sensation because i can buy 3 hd2 with that price, and i wouldn't feel the BIG difference, but in the future, sgs2 will be my phone (i never buyed a phone >180€, maybe i'll have to wait 2 years and i'll use rock solid custom ROMs )
Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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I used a sensation for about 2 weeks, couldn't wait to get back on my HD2, the stock ROM on the sensation to me is pretty bad, the UI lagged, the camera was ok but 8mp isn't a must have for me. It didn't seem to open apps that much faster than my current CM7 ROM, 4G was slightly faster than HSDPA, I dunno, just didn't wow me.
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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Do you think it's worth the money, especially when there's the g2x for a much cheaper price?
I'd take a Sensation over the g2x because
1) there is going to be much much more development for it.
2) qHD
3) the g2x will probably never be able to run Sense.
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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I agree with you, the Sensation IS superior on every level. But it's not so incredibly better to warrant purchasing a new $600 phone. (Unless you have tons of disposable income.)
I know that the Sensation bootloader just got unlocked (or at least is planning to become unlocked in the near future according to HTC). So that'll give it some hacking support, but still....
Yes, the camera is much better, but nothing to blow someone out of the water.
For comparison, I went from a HTC: G1 original Android phone, to a HD2, and patiently waited with the WinMo 6.5 until Android on SD was released. It's a WORLD of difference between a Android HD2 and an original G1.
I think I can justify waiting for a Samsung Hercules, or a Samsung Galaxy 3D.
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whaaaa??
is that foreal?
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whaaaa??
is that foreal?
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Samsung's answer to the HTC Evo 3D and LG Optimus 3D is set to arrive in Q4, making it the perfect Christmas present.
The Samsung Galaxy 3D is said to be very similar to the Samsung Galaxy S2, with a 1.2GHz dual-core processor and 4.3-inch touchscreen.
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http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/988411/samsung_galaxy_3d_set_to_land_by_christmas.html
what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.
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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.
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No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.
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true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !
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No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.
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yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.
my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...
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true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !
yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.
my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...
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Getting rid of a Thunderbolt for a Sensation is ridiculous.
I (as I believe most of you too) am a generally happy Note user since Dec. 2011. Really the best phone that I have owned in a while. Just wondering how many others have the same tingly thought about selling GN and picking up a HTC One X (considering that there are not major bugs)?
For:
1. Guaranteed ICS NOW(who knows when Samsung will actually deliver, they already proved that official statements /*cough*will be out Q1=FAIL*cough*/ don't really mean much to them, just profit).
2. I have never met anyone crazy about touchwiz. Quite the opposite with Sense.
3. 4 Core (yes, we don't know real word performance yet, but cant be that bad).
4. Apart from camera performance, HTC has more or less been on par, quality wise with Samsung. Maybe they finally go it right this time.
5. Free 25GB dropbox (or was that 50Gb Box?).
6. Looks sexy (at least on the pictures)
7. SGS3 hasn't even been announced not to talk of GN2.
Against:
1. I just cant get enough of the HUGE screen. No one would call One X small screen, but after Note everything seems small.
2. S Pen. To be honest I never ever use it. But its there and am sure some people do.
3. Its a solid phone. No ICS but what we have now works well.
4. No one really knows if the One X will be all that its said to be. No real reviews yet.
5. No SD card.
maybe: 6. Non removable battery. (I personally never remove it, but might be a con for some).
I know it will be easier to make a final decision when One X is actually out and can be bought. However, its just a couple of week away and I believe if its going to be great, then the used sales price of GN will drop (that is if many GN start to flood the pre-owned market).
Anyway, every new day I notice I am consider the option more and more. What about you?
You also forgot a couple more cons with the HTC One X...no SD Card slot and non-removable battery.
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You also forgot a couple more cons with the HTC One X...no SD Card slot and non-removable battery.
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Thanks. I have added them. Why they didn't even come to mind is that I have a 16Gb sd in my GN and its more that enough for me. So the stock 32 would be enough too. Yet, I see how that can be limiting for some folks.
With regards to the battery I never personally remove it. I didn't know that a lot of folks did (apart from reseting, which I am sure the One X will have some pin hole for, to cut power).
In your Fors:
If I was in THAT big of a hurry I'd just put one of the ICS roms on it.
I messed around with one a bit ago, and it was already pretty usable as a daily driver.
The only 'For' which vaguely interests me is having quad core. Yet the phone I have is already plenty fast for the most part. A couple of games have a bit of lag, and I suppose quad core would be nice for that.
But am I going to trade my 5.3" screen and the s-pen for that? Not a chance.
- Frank
Biggest con for me is it is still HTC. Ive used htc devices since the tmobile/cingular wing(or whatever the first one was) htc touch pro, tp2, tilt, tilt2 etc. But they always find a way to disappoint me.
Besides the greatest phone ever made HTC HD2(personal opinion), ive had nothing but issues with htc. I dont expect nothing different from the one x. Rather its tiny audio quality, dust, etc.
You can already get 50GB free from box if you install their app and I'd miss my OLED too much, so I won't. I also prefer the Samsung design.
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What attracts most of HTC is the camera, but it must beat Galaxy note with a lot for me to change.
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Biggest con for me is it is still HTC. Ive used htc devices since the tmobile/cingular wing(or whatever the first one was) htc touch pro, tp2, tilt, tilt2 etc. But they always find a way to disappoint me.
Besides the greatest phone ever made HTC HD2(personal opinion), ive had nothing but issues with htc. I dont expect nothing different from the one x. Rather its tiny audio quality, dust, etc.
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I also had htcs since the beginning and yes their best phone was the hd2 but they have come a long way and it is starting to show now. HTC is coming back that's what I think.
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With my Desire HD I did not feel the need to flash AOSP or even a launcher, quite the opposite with TouchWiz..
And Paul O'Brien said that the screen on the One X makes the screen on his Galaxy Nexus looks dull and dated, and he is a reputable source of course..
So am also on the fense but will wait to see the reviews first and then judge, but I think the X is already a very appealing phone
I have never met anyone crazy about touchwiz. Quite the opposite with Sense.
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Hmm not sure with that one. Sense hasn't changed much over the years either, which to me, is a little lazy from HTC.
I couldn't go back to a small screen and i use the s pen too much.
The question remaining is: Will they release updates to incremental android versions without delay (HTC is part of google alliance if i remember correctly)?
When LG first launched the first dual core with tegra 2 CPU and android 2.2, it took them almost a year to get to 2.3.3 and they suffered many bugs (random reboots, etc). I am extremely worried about the bugs this device will have. What if under certain circumstances a rogue stock app is using 100% of all CPUs and battery goes down in minutes?
You might say HTC is not LG, but being an early adopter to new technologies has been proven to be a not so good user experience.
As of now, even Nexus phones have differences in firmware versions. Some Galaxy Nexus devices still run 4.0.1 while others are on 4.0.2 .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558960
Version 4.0.3 isn't even officially out for them, yet new devices launch with it, or update to it. The message that this gives me as a consumer, is that if Google isn't confident enough to release 4.0.3 OTA for the device ICS was designed to work with, its not ready to be used in our phones.
As a user, i don't get a clear picture as to why is all this mess happening.
It can't be that hard to mention publicly: " Android version 4.x.x will be available on your mobile phones in xx/xx/2012. We are currently working on X, Y, Z at the moment". If there are worries that they miss the deadline, its cool, they could just mention that " X, Y are giving us a hard time, we expect to have them worked out by xx/xx/2012 ". Users will respect that.
If they expect us to keep buying these uber-phones, with those prices and still treat us like we buy candy, that is hardly professional. Not to mention the frustration and the time lost while the phone is being serviced.
HTC SENSE could alone be a reason for moving towards ONE X.
Being a owner of HTC's from Touch Diamond days,I can vouch the software implementation is much better than samsung out of the box.
ICS and GB apart,I mean a $700 device plays out videos with black blobs is simply not acceptable.Though video is not a concern for me as I rarely watch them on the device but still you can't ignore it,with also many niggles left out.The whole problem lies with the optimization of things by samsung.They think we are the beta testers rather than testing themselves.
Apart from the screen dimension,1X would be a better choice for me.
I really liked HTC sense on my old Desire, so I like the look of the HTC One, however I love the size of my Note so I don't think I could move.
Now if HTC were to do a 5.3 phone....
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Now if HTC were to do a 5.3 phone....
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No question there...
I wouldve have waited and gotten the htc one x after all its a quad core monster. But no, simply coz the screen is too small for me. welcome note, after all what good is quad core for games if there isnt a decent graphics card.
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I am giving One X some serious consideration. But I would like to see some reviews first. And play with the phone in real life. And I really like the size of the Note screen. But it could be the one phone that kills them all in 2012. Like GSII in 2011. And dont forget about Galaxy S III. Or what Samsung is going to name it. Lets wait and see. The One X does look really nice though
At home we have two HTC HD2,and a Desire z,both are very good devices.
Software implementation on HTC are very good,specialy RAM managment,
I like the Note's screen size,but will test the One X if its snappier then will most probably get it,actually the only con that I find in the Note itself is its beeing a slow device,and I hate that.
I really like this phone, I like Sense, but as said above from another users there are a lot of persistent bug in Htc phones: poor audio (Htc Sensation I can barely hear the other person speaking), dust under the screen!!
The ONLY thing which will make me switch from the Note is the Galaxy S 3 which is GUARANTEED to be better in almost every way to the One X
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3. 4 Core (yes, we don't know real word performance yet, but cant be that bad).
5. Free 25GB dropbox (or was that 50Gb Box?).
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*You can already get a Dropbox hack to give you the 25GB space which is easy to do, just go to "android" section on ipmart. I have already done it on my note and I have 25GB for 2 years
*4 core! really, I'm running a 4 core PC and the amount of applications that utilise a 4 core CPU on my PC are practically negligible. You will find it with android applications, how many support a 4 core CPU? or even dual core...and why? its not like your going to be doing some 3D CAD rendering on a 4+"screen android device.
Essentially your observations comes down to how shiny is that device compared to mine?
The note is a fantastic bit of kit and i think it will be a while before somebody comes out with something to better it.
Take care
IMO, Disappointing "upgrade" to one X.. HD2 Still the king! So, I sold it off and is back to my trusty Good Quality Phone.
If there is anyone that is interested to know why, let me know. will be glad to post the experience here.
why oh why oh why
i was just dreaming of the 1X
We had an X1 on demo, our outcome was buying 20 new Andida cells for current HD2 fleet & aiming at another 12 month+ service life as nothing to offer but a IT hassle changing over to something with no heavy benefits & a big price tag. HTC handsets really need to implement better inovation & some clever reworking of Android ...
You are crazy man.... really.... HD2 is great but one X is the greatest ever....
Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
Interresting report !
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Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
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according to you weird logic, old CRT TVs are better then HDTVs
guys go the One X forum and check the tons of user reviews, so many of us are in awe with the One X, there are only the issues of build defects in early batches, everything else its an uber, brisk, super sexy device
HTC at its best
and the camera, well i don't need to argue check the pictures thread and you wills see for yourselves http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585398 easy as hell to take gorgeous photos
our friend scpion in here is missing the whole point lol
here is a better quick review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25468262&postcount=3544
Well.. That thread is all abt the best shots that users have taken with the one x camera. Naturally, all the shots will look good.. Mine does not have any hardware related issue and in direct comparison to the HD2, OneX is without doubt better. My point is that, is the One X that great a upgrade from the hd2 ? IMHO, call me strange or fussy, my answer is still no. Neither is it worth all the hype. Its just another phone with better or even great specs but in real life, the performance is subpar.. Entirely imo. Maybe I have too high expectations for it.
Mate,
One X is a great phone! You must've been smoking something special. Comparing the awfull camera of HD2 (mine is already 2 years old) with OX is absolutely ridiculous....
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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all the crazy bugs/glitches have been sorted by firmware 1.29, took them less than a month to clear them out
we still have only one issue which is backlight flickering when the phone overheats, seems related to Tegra 3's power saving feature called PRISM, which controls back-light dynamically to save power, HTC said its software and promised an update soon
so please spare me, the fastest and most generous Android updates provider is HTC, most of their end of 2010 devices are receiving the ICS upgrade too
I would have to admit the Note was better liked than he One X when had them on Demo ...
Samsungs efforts on Android seemed better than HTC for most practical phone use.
Sound quality on HTC still is very poor & the build quility & design of the current polycarbonate plastic handsets is not that good, no wonder 2012 sales are down ...
Yeah. With a history of sexy metal outfits on higher end device, I am deeply disappointed. I dun care if its polycarbonate. If its plastic, it just feels plastic.
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Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
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I love the material, very strong and very light in weight. You might prefer a bakelite phone, but technology has moved on.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
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If you want a bigger phone, get the galaxy note.
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
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You only need the speed for games. For the rest, when using an OS/UI a few millisecs make a lot of difference. But if you don't care for that, the HD2 will do just fine. I wonder why you are even considering an upgrade.
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
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It lasts longer then the HD2, so i don't know what your complaint is. if you want better batterylife, get a Droid RAZR Maxx.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
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Again, its alot better than the HD2, and on par with most smartphones.
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
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Probably just a setting, i don't have that problem.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
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True, its a **** headpiece.
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
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I wonder this too, just keep your HD2, 2012 technology just isn't for you.
I agree on Sense thing.
I just don't get why all those manufactuers are trying to make the user 'happier'.
Android is really customizable (unlike iOS ) so one can set his/her system according to personal preferences.
Pr0 users are going to root and install something like CM/AOKP anyway...
So... Why the hell manufactuers can't just release phones with stock unlocked bootloaders + plain, AOSP compiled Android, and whole vendor/build/kernel related stuff?!
I came from an HD2 too.
I take some of these points - but the One X is a evolution of the HD2, not a revolutionary device.
If I had paid NZ$900 for the phone to upgrade from the HD2 I wouldn't be that happy - I agree it probably isn''t worth it. But I took a 'free' upgrade.
But the bottom line is, it is the best Android phone you can buy.
Once the AOSP roms come, i think you will really see the One X pull ahead.
Still awaiting update to OP's blog.What exactly were you expecting from the phone? Holographic video calling? Concierge Service? a BJ whenever you felt randy lol?
I just had to post a reply to this post...
My personal choice was between three hadsets:
HTC One X
Galaxy S3
LG 4X HD
All have basically the same spec with minor variances.
I Pre-Ordered and recieved the One X upon release to great delight...
However, there were a couple of things i didn't like which were:
the 1800mAh battery
the lack of an SD slot
the unibody shell
More power is needed to run a quad-core handset & 4.3" screen comfortably for a day. Although it had 32gb, i currently have a 16gb in my HD2 and it's loaded. I like to be able to change my battery if i needed rather than having to send it of for a repair or smple change...as well as getting easier access to it.
Outside of these gripes, it is a great phone but it didn't hit me as oustanding as the HD2 when it was released.
My Galaxy S3 is also on Pre-order, but that wll come with a 2100mAh battery...which s also accessable. It has an SD slot whch can accomodate 32gb on top of the 16-32or 64gb on the phone.
These alone sell this phone to me and not the Samsung name or the screen which is on par with the One X apart from size...i was hoping HTC had something just a bit better than the One X.
Lastly there's the LG 4X HD not due till approx June...so a long wait.
I can't say owt apart from released specs, and they look good...it's a pity the phone is an ugly bugger.
To conclude, i wouldn't knock the One X comparing it to the HD2 they're a world apart. Although a great phone, the HD2 is outclassed in every way by the new crop of handsets...maybe not with build tho'.
However, in saying that...it's only now that i'm prepared to replace it. this says heaps about the longevity of the HD2. Long may it continue to show how it's done.
you have to be very carful when comparing different OSs across different hardware, several generations apart.
on paper the one x is better in everyway, I don't have one so cant comment on build quality, but I can say the HD2 has issues with the buttons and the digitiser.
however the real question is do you need it?
as you pointed out the 3 YEAR old HD2 runs absolutely fine, running WP in my opinion is as fast as you can get, the limiting factor in the UI is me, I cant move any quicker so having a better CPU or GPU wont make any difference.
So, does a quad core SoC make any difference? nope, not one iota when comparing it to an HD2 with WP and running day to day "phone" tasks
Will it (one x) run games better, of course it will, we have a S1 snapdragon in the HD2, with a very old A200 GPU, but that's irrelevant if you don't play games.
So I guess the question is, is the one x a worthwhile upgrade... for me no its not, will it be worth it for some people, yeah, if games are your thing.
Ive been debating about upgrading my HD2 to a real WP device and I simply cant justify it, and I think that's the point the OP is making, despite 3 years of "progress" there really hasn't been anything worthwhile if games aren't your thing.
Of Course we are talking about Android here, and if you compare android on the two devices then you have a different situation, I don't want to get in to an which OS is better debate but I think we can all agree that Android needs more horsepower to get it running well, if that's progress for an phone OS in your mind then so be it, but, that is that fact of the matter
Ah.. That's the word. " justify". It simply not justifiable to blow $800 to get a new hardware that does things a little faster or better. Theres no wow factor to this phone at all other than the specs. Maybe its not optimised yet, but the first impression is disappointing enough. I have to admit i am quite a htc fanboy but this device does not cut as a flagship. Camera is in a way better but the interface really screw up. Its simply a great challenge to get it to focus on something especially in macro. If u still have to get it done manually, I think this camera has failed. Android and sense combo is simply not a great combo looking at how One X runs on it. It still lags or daydream at times. mind u, hd2 hardware is 3 years old and day to day usage, its still performs well or on par. Screen resolution, colour, brightness on One x is way way better. I am just saying the ratio is wrong imo. If i want a bigger screen than the HD2, i would expect it to be bigger in all directions. And not just taller. i have to admit for HD2, when i am outdoor, i struggles to see the screen, which i really hate. My point is, as another poster has said. OneX is just like a evolution of the HD2. Not a revolution. I would love to one a One X again. But not at this kind of price tag and definitely at at this current stage of development.
To Reckless- i would want a phone to function as a phone. HD2 does just as well with 3 or 4 cores lesser. unfortunately, it doesn't do a bj. If i ever need one, i will pm U.