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What is the next phone?

G1 is starting to show it's age and we've had the superior Hero for awhile and now the DROID is out and even better than Hero. The problem is, they are for other carriers.
Tmobil just cam out with the Motorola CLIQ but it doesn't seem to be even as good as the Hero and definitely not as good as the DROID.
Are there any rumors of a worthwhile upgrade coming to Tmobile?

Sony Xperia X10 hopefully.

The Samsung Behold II is coming to T-Mobile, I don't know much about the phone, but that's something you can look into and decide for yourself.

Pinesal said:
DROID is out and even better than Hero.
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Excuse me but the hero is actually superior to them all I thought I should correct your error mate.the only reason its slow is because HTC is using slow hardware that can't keep up with such elegance and beauty.the droid uses 1.6 while heroes use 1.5 so comparison isn't fair...
Good day to you all..

Carloswithac said:
Sony Xperia X10 hopefully.
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christ, i can't wait for this phone.
Here's a video for those of you who haven't seen it yet...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiZ2DBN6zCM

I'm only hoping there next contender will also have a 5 row qwerty keyboard, im not much of a onscreen typer and hopefully running snapdragon.

Ace42 said:
Excuse me but the hero is actually superior to them all I thought I should correct your error mate.the only reason its slow is because HTC is using slow hardware that can't keep up with such elegance and beauty.the stood uses 1.6 while heroes yes 1.5 so comparison isn't fair.
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Today kiddies we're going to learn about the difference between "fact" and "opinion".. Christ!

AdrianK said:
Today kiddies we're going to learn about the difference between "fact" and "opinion".. Christ!
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im assuming you cant tell i was being sarcastic when i was talking about elegance and beauty

Ace42 said:
im assuming you cant tell i was being sarcastic when i was talking about elegance and beauty
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lol, apparently not I hate Sense UI, it's a resource hog that looks pretty but doesn't do anything useful. I'd rather just have a faster phone than that bogged-down UI.

i hope they make an actual G2, like 5 row keyboard 1ghz proc. capacitive touchscreen trackball with light , LED light ambient light sensor ,3-8000MP cam, 512 mb ram
pretty much a G1 with an upgrade =]

roguestatuskat said:
i hope they make an actual G2, like 5 row keyboard 1ghz proc. capacitive touchscreen trackball with light , LED light ambient light sensor ,3-8000MP cam, 512 mb ram
pretty much a G1 with an upgrade =]
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... WOW, you want a light emitting diode light ambient light sensor? I hope there was supposed to be a comma there. And I have never seen anything with 8000MP camera. Maybe the hubble LOL. somehow that is supposed to take pictures with just 512MB ram.. and a 64GB SD Card?

AdrianK said:
lol, apparently not I hate Sense UI, it's a resource hog that looks pretty but doesn't do anything useful. I'd rather just have a faster phone than that bogged-down UI.
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thats kinda true i only get about 30-ram avail on a hero rom
on a xrom or something i would have alot more available.

neoobs said:
... WOW, you want a light emitting diode light ambient light sensor? I hope there was supposed to be a comma there. And I have never seen anything with 8000MP camera. Maybe the hubble LOL. somehow that is supposed to take pictures with just 512MB ram.. and a 64GB SD Card?
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yeahh there was, but pretty much what i mean is just an upgraded g1 , a true G2

Ace42 said:
thats kinda true i only get about 30-ram avail on a hero rom
on a xrom or something i would have alot more available.
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Very true. Also I'm really loving what Google did with the new icons in 2.0, much nicer than the HTC ones, so no need for a theme to hide the 1.6 icons that look like they're from the 90's >.<

Check out these pics and post...I know these are all predictions but man they do look nice.
http://www.talkandroid.com/android-forums/android-hardware/341-t-mobile-g2-phone.html

yupp,
i plan on getting the next keyboard HTC android phone for Tmobile

roguestatuskat said:
yupp,
i plan on getting the next keyboard HTC android phone for Tmobile
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Same here, Id like to see a G1 type phone with higher specs, basically a G1.5

Pinesal said:
G1 is starting to show it's age and we've had the superior Hero for awhile and now the DROID is out and even better than Hero. The problem is, they are for other carriers.
Tmobil just cam out with the Motorola CLIQ but it doesn't seem to be even as good as the Hero and definitely not as good as the DROID.
Are there any rumors of a worthwhile upgrade coming to Tmobile?
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leaked images of tmobiles phone "map" showed motorola sholes and the sholes tablet...
motorola sholes ofcoarse is the droid but gsm, and i am guessing the sholes table is the same as the moto droid,but full touchscreen w/ no keyboard..(no date annouced or leaked)
mytouch le (fender phone) definitely worth it compared to the behold 2... uses the 32a board = 288mb ram, 16gb sd card, and a 3.5mm jack. basically having a hero without sense ui stock...and i am sure the phone can be rooted the same way as the regular mytouch3g...maybe.(date: jan 2010)

i think that HTC should ask us here at XDA what we want, because being power users, i think we will have a better understanding of what we would like to see in a phone and at a decent price

thankfully my work let me exchange my storm for the droid and this phone could have been perfect but instead they decided to give it a **** keyboard. the G1's keyboard feels huge in comparison. luckily the screen is so big that using the OS-keyboard is easier and much preferred. This droid not only looks nice but it makes my G1 feel super slow. I always knew that the g1's screen wasnt as nice as the iphones but it was still a good looking screen compared to most other phones. Well just wait until you see android running on the droids screen and put the g1 beside it. It totally put the g1's screen to shame in not only size but resolution. this thing is so hi-res its sick. All i know is tmobile needs to get something equally as good as the droid by the time my contract is up next october. Oh to answer the OP's question, for the time being the droid is the "next phone". i dont think any of HTC's current phones can touch it.

x10 or desire

dam dont know which one!
which one got better youtube, facebook and twitter apps, how about lag?
at the moent im heading towards desire.. i hear x10 got some issues with keyboard.. and lag.
advise please

no lag on my X10. Both have good youtube facebook, and twitter apps. i installed the HTC keyboard on my X10 and its been perfect.

cheers mate... still cannt decide

dude, there are already so many threads about this, just search for them and read all of them

yea been doing that
looks like i may be heading 2wards desire.....

intrancer said:
yea been doing that
looks like i may be heading 2wards desire.....
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The reason that I chose the X10 is because of the slightly larger screen with slightly higher resolution at 16:9 instead of 15:9 and the pure awesomeness of it's camera! Oh yeah, I think the X10 looks WAY better than the Desire. But that's up to you.

X10 or Desire
Me and dbase-uk are currently comparing these 2 phones as we upgraded the same time, I have the x10 and he has the desire, both on orange.
The main differences we have found at the mo are that the Desire is more polished because of the the android 2.1, but in having said that the X10 does run the same kernel 2.6.29-rel (x10 android 1.6). This enables the X10 to do more of the android 2.1 apps but not all such as live wallpapers.
Simple tasks so far that have got my back with X10 are things like sending a business card via text only seems to be the option to send it via bluetooth very frustrating !! Also things like a you tube link straight from the you tube player in sms, no option have to login in to you tube!! These are all present on the desire straight out the box.
Benchmarks ( linpack )
X10 4 mflops
desire 7 mflops
Stock
The camera is better on the X10 face detection and 8.1 camera and other settings. Dark shooting on the x10 is not as good but there is a new sony build coming out r1fa016 x10 currently on 014, this is meant to fix camera dark settings, overall performance and sound quality.
Timescape is cool and does work well (under review at the mo)
Also the screen on the Deisre ome led and x10 is not but really cannot tell the difference, apart from the black is a little darker on the deisre, I do like the x10 screen it is bigger and looks stunning.
Big shock was the size comparison they are pretty much identical, but to look at them the htc looks a lot smaller because of the rounded corners and smaller screen weight wise cannot tell the difference.
Either way X10 and Desire both run Android wich is the way forward, after have windows mobile and symbian, no comparison!!
Thanks more soon

I went for the X10 in the end. Mostly because I'd been following it for such a long time and its supposed hardware spec (before launch) was on par with the desire.
Once the truth came out about the clearpad 1000 screen and Sony's track record for updates, I was really going to go for the desire as I considered it to be more "future proof".
I wasn't all that excited about the physical design on the desire but I had used sense before on my hero and new that the UI was sound.
However I think that because I'd had a hero before, it was hard to excited about desire as it is virtually the same phone but on steroids.
I've compared them both and the desire is slick and the updated version of sense is brilliant, android 2.1 is brilliant and it may get 720p recording through a software update.
Personally though its still not as exciting as the x10. It got mine in white and it looks good. The screen great, the colours are not as vibrant as the desire as previously said, but once you turn up the brightness the screen improves dramatically (and the battery life decreases drastically!)
The Sony keyboard is absolutely awful as you must've heard by now, but that can be rectified by installing either better keyboard or the HTC one from the desire.
Browsing is a joy on the x10, as Google maps. Although I do sometimes.miss pinch to zoom. The alternatives do work quite well and makes using this phone one handed a breeze.
Although Sony's custom apps can run a little slowly at times as result of the data they collect. The rest of the phone seems quite snappy. I think that if android 2+ comes this phone will impress in a big way.
The other reason I didn't get the desire is because I heard about the evo which I do want. So the x10 is a welcomed change for now. Hopefully since I bought an exclusive white one it will fetch a pretty penny when I come to sell it on in the future.

hey all.. ive been checking out the desire forum as welll....it seems it has just got a slicker ui.... the 2.1 os isnt making a big difference (which i thought it would)
looking at the spec, i read some where it has 1g internal storage.. can someone confirm? apologies if it has been asked already.
on the desire internet explorer you can select and copy paste.... is this possible on the x10

intrancer said:
hey all.. ive been checking out the desire forum as welll....it seems it has just got a slicker ui.... the 2.1 os isnt making a big difference (which i thought it would)
looking at the spec, i read some where it has 1g internal storage.. can someone confirm? apologies if it has been asked already.
on the desire internet explorer you can select and copy paste.... is this possible on the x10
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I believe that the Desire only has 512MB internal storage while the X10 has 1GB.

white paper with complete specs
http://developer.sonyericsson.com/cws/download/1/716/952/1262608264/DW-102192-WP_X10_2.pdf

Two things.

Hi everyone!
I have been stuck for quite some time deliberating between the HTC Desire and the Xperia X10. There are only 3 things stopping me from going out right now and buying the X10.
1) Shops are closed at the moment
2) Apparently there is a fair amount of slowdown and jerkiness on the phone.
3) The Desire has 1.5x more RAM.
Multitouch is no big deal and I would much rather have a great camera and bigger screen that is more usable in direct daylight.
Now then, If there is any slowdown/lag on the phone when and where does it occur? It seems bit odd to have slowdown on such a powerful device.
Secondly, is it the lack of RAM causing the slowdown? Or the lack of hardware acceleration? I don't multitask too much so if that's the only usage for RAM, then that's half my dilemma fixed.
Thanks!

The Desire doesn't have 1.5 times more ram. The Desire has 512Mb and the Xperia X10 has 384Mb.

Nope, Desire has 576MB http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire-3077.php
You are correct about the X10's RAM.
576/384 = 1.5

When in doubt ... forget about it.
Instead of buying X10 and not being happy with it after just go with Desire.
And yes, X10 has some lag problems in timescape (when you load the app and the cache is generated for a few seconds is laggy).
And to make things worse, only 256Mb of RAM from 384 are used (android 1.6 limitation) so basically Desire has 2x+ RAM
On the other side Desire is an ugly smartphone and sense is boring

Personally, I'm not having any issues with lag. maybe a fraction of a second while loading timescape but nothing to be concerned about.
other than that it's VERY fast. never notice any issues with running out of ram, and I no longer use any task killing apps.
GPS is one thing that has really impressed me. Insanely fast to get a fix, and even gets a lock when I'm inside my house
Battery life for me is not so good. Only just lasting a day. Hopefully the next update will help.......

i think lagging caused by too many background apps running. Using startup auditor and advance task killer might improve the battery life and the phone running at the current moment. battery still still running around 1 and 1 / 2 days for me if not playing the phones for the whole day.
But right now, every X10 owner is dying for SE next small update and 2.1 OS update.
Desire is also a good phone, but i have had some bad experience on my HTC touch pro 2 so i would leave this brand a side by now.

I dont understand the lagging comments, ive had the x10 for more than 2 months now and the phone is nothing but fast, very fast. Yes, timescape takes a little longer to start working properly but than again, i dont use it. Ever.
The battery is quite ok for me, 2 + days, depending on usage, sometimes 3.5 days is you turn it off during sleepy time.
Imo when the 2.1 update comes, it will be a better phone than desire so if you can wait for that, get the x10.
Ram? Not an issue, multitasking is rather smooth, no problems here.

Hi - There's a tiny delay when you go into timescape.. but it's really not worth worrying about.. the phone is generally very fast and the way android manages the memory it's not a problem... certainly not that I've observed. Battery issues have been reported on both handsets.. so I think that it's partly a super smartphone issue... something this powerful is bound to use a lot of juice.. but many are getting a good days use out of it... 2,3, or even 4 if it's not used much.

If you've ever used a Desire you would understand why people say the X10 is laggy, honestly I think a better description is it's not as "snappy" as some other phones, calling it laggy simply isn't true but it could be much snappier. I personally think the X10 has the nicest hardware on the market atm, and firmly believe 1.6 is holding back the X10 A LOT. I said in another post and I'll say it again, the Desire is the best Android phone on the market right now, if you can wait the X10 could be, but right now it is not.
...patience is a virtue

imma put i this way. no matter what device comes out, there will be those who love it and those who hate it, those who pick at every small thing and those who understand it.
i understand most of us paid a pretty chunk of change on it, but we all knew what was up from the start.
as for the desire, its a good device but thats based on preference. i say the x10 is better only for the fact that its full potential hasnt been reached yet. there is nothing else left in the desire to excite as it is already 2.1'd up and not much more can happen
lol screw a desire, the x10 will be a monster very very soon.
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tuxStyle said:
When in doubt ... forget about it.
Instead of buying X10 and not being happy with it after just go with Desire.
And yes, X10 has some lag problems in timescape (when you load the app and the cache is generated for a few seconds is laggy).
And to make things worse, only 256Mb of RAM from 384 are used (android 1.6 limitation) so basically Desire has 2x+ RAM
On the other side Desire is an ugly smartphone and sense is boring
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Actually when you put it that way, I should go after the X10
The camera, the shape and the smaller screen (that won't be very usable in daylight) would all bother me on the Desire. On the other hand, people are saying the only lag on the X10 is in timescape when it's pulling down data.
X10 it is!!
Now to decide what carrier to buy it on

Ive jsut made that decision, ive had a Desire for a few weeks now, it is a great phone, does everything really well ( ive jsut come from an HTC HD2) the things that really bothered me were that I couldnt see the screen outside in the sun, and that the screen was small in comparision to the HD2.
Ive had an xperia x10 on test for a few day,s and ive decided that even with the older software, its just a nice phone, of course very subjective, the desire really didnt do much for me aestheticaly, and the X10 is just Wow, again a personal thing.
But the bigger screen is a winner and the better camera.
As soon as it is rooted, we will have 2.1 on it so software wont be an issue.
My desire is now on ebay and will be sold for what I paid for it 2 weeks ago, might even make a little profit on it ;-)
Jsut my 2 pennies worth of course ;-)
Bloke

Herr Noobien said:
Actually when you put it that way, I should go after the X10
The camera, the shape and the smaller screen (that won't be very usable in daylight) would all bother me on the Desire. On the other hand, people are saying the only lag on the X10 is in timescape when it's pulling down data.
X10 it is!!
Now to decide what carrier to buy it on
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Well, the display is super.
I watched a 2h movie outside ... well, not in direct sunlight but under a tree.
The camera on X10 is ok as long as you don't upload the images on your computer and watch them at 100%
If you do it, you will see, they are very soft. No sharpness at all (or is my x10's fault). I asked some people to upload some images (taken outside in nature with trees and grass) not edited but nobody did it.

I'll give that a try tomorrow... will upload the photos.

3 photos'
Looks like the uploader has scaled the file sizes down.... I'll see if I can find somewhere to put the full size images.. or if you PM me your email address I can send them to you.

Haha... done it...
http://cid-0e8df4cc69878dc0.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/xperia photos?authkey=6nDT6PXIcOI$

X10 vs desire vs galaxy s

Hello guys I wana knkw which is better . Cuz when I post on desire forum x10 vs desire they all were x10 sux and stuff and and I also post x10 vs.vibrant they said the vibrant is better im trying to collect some info cuz im buying eithrr desire or galaxy s on monday orr should I keep the x10 and wait for 2.1 cuz I dont like the 1.6 and its been almost forever still no 2.1 on x10 I wonder if 2.1 will be available how nice x10 will be I just cant imagine it . So plz help me guys n wht u think and also would 2.1 would it.bring camera flash?

First of all 2.1 isn't going bring camera flash.. that's hardware related, and second why did you buy x10, when you knew it had 1.6 on it?

Flash:
Download Vignette from the market.
X10 vs Galaxy:
My mate bight a galaxy S two weeks ago and is already sending it in for replacement.
1.6 vs 2.1:
If you can't wait a few more weeks, then I highly doubt you'll be keeping either of those phones because of the compulsive need to always upgrade. Kinda defeats the purpose, really.
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HTC fan, he bought the X10 probably because the Desire and the Galaxy S were announced for Canada only recently.
If you can get the Galaxy S for only slightly more than the X10, then I recommend it even though I'm an X10 owner and fan. The Hummingbird CPU, extra RAM, 8Gb onboard ROM, S-AMOLED screen, 2.1 (with 2.2 coming in September) make it superior to the X10. Sorry, but that's the truth.
As for the Desire, I would stay with the X10.
P.S. before I get flamed, I have no intention of moving to the Galaxy S.

^ 100% Agree.

Yea when 2.1 comes to the X10 all our problems will be over. I wont even have to work anymore probably. It will be such an amazing thing that if I were to accidentally drop my phone from 40 Ft. it will bounce right back into my pocket (unharmed). I am so tired of ppl *****ing about 1.6 vs 2.1/2.2. Get the FU** over it already. There are so many more things in the world to be concerned with. Just my opinion though.

@htc fan89 i bought my x10 3 months ago i didnt had knowledge of android or what 1.6 was. i can wait 3 weeks or whatever but is it official that its coming this month or its just people saying it .

I'm just tried of people crying for 2.1...that's all

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HTC fan, he bought the X10 probably because the Desire and the Galaxy S were announced for Canada only recently.
If you can get the Galaxy S for only slightly more than the X10, then I recommend it even though I'm an X10 owner and fan. The Hummingbird CPU, extra RAM, 8Gb onboard ROM, S-AMOLED screen, 2.1 (with 2.2 coming in September) make it superior to the X10. Sorry, but that's the truth.
As for the Desire, I would stay with the X10.
P.S. before I get flamed, I have no intention of moving to the Galaxy S.
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Nicely put
We're always going to have the need to upgrade to the latest android smartphone just to get the full potential. It's a never ending cycle, and unfortunately I'm a victim. I think I will stick with the Xperia X10 since I've gone through so much with it and although it is my 5th Android phone, I've learned most about Android capabilities from the X10. It's a good phone, I'm sure in a few months something awesome will come in Canada and we all going to want it. I've tried selling my phone but the resell value is just ridiculous. I'll be sticking with the X10, even though I love Super AMOLED. I want to be around when the bootloader gets cracked.

What is the resale value of X10?
I'm not going to do it anyway ... i'm just curious.
My next will be one of those dual core smartphones which most likely will be launched next summer
And if we don't get dualcore, at least we will have 1.5Ghz

Resale is about $300 cdn if that. Theres tonnes of them up on kijiji and craigslist.
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tuxStyle said:
What is the resale value of X10?
I'm not going to do it anyway ... i'm just curious.
My next will be one of those dual core smartphones which most likely will be launched next summer
And if we don't get dualcore, at least we will have 1.5Ghz
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lol dual core would be LEGENDARY

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lol dual core would be LEGENDARY
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Not entirely sure about that. First thing is that it would drain the battery a lot more. Secondly it's not really needed for the most part.
We already have DSPs and dedicated chips that handles much of the heavy lifting like sound, video, graphics etc. Unless you're doing _heavy_ multitasking on your phone the performance increase would be minimal. And given that Android is pretty good at allocating resources you'd probably be better off with more RAM in the future rather than a new CPU.

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Not entirely sure about that. First thing is that it would drain the battery a lot more. Secondly it's not really needed for the most part.
We already have DSPs and dedicated chips that handles much of the heavy lifting like sound, video, graphics etc. Unless you're doing _heavy_ multitasking on your phone the performance increase would be minimal. And given that Android is pretty good at allocating resources you'd probably be better off with more RAM in the future rather than a new CPU.
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I'll take whatever I can. I'm just commenting on the advancements being accomplished w/ smartphones.

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I'll take whatever I can. I'm just commenting on the advancements being accomplished w/ smartphones.
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I'm interested in the deverlopment as well. I think we're going to see a period of increased power, much like the Ghz wars of the past ten years. After that we're probably going to see more effort being put into better battery-life and increased portability. Much like Laptops are becoming the norm for computers I think Smartphones (or rather their descendants) are going to replace Laptops as the daily computing platform.
A major part of todays interweb users could probably switch from using computers to smartphones without losing any functionality. Just attach a larger screen and a bluetooth keyboard and you can Facebook, mail, surf the web, watch youtube, play casual games and enjoy media.

devilleather said:
Yea when 2.1 comes to the X10 all our problems will be over. I wont even have to work anymore probably. It will be such an amazing thing that if I were to accidentally drop my phone from 40 Ft. it will bounce right back into my pocket (unharmed). I am so tired of ppl *****ing about 1.6 vs 2.1/2.2. Get the FU** over it already. There are so many more things in the world to be concerned with. Just my opinion though.
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you got me all excited about this boomerang bouncy ball feature, then i realised that you were being sarcastic... devo

fk the x10 i should have waitied for something better. i just got a decent deal at the time.
For all the top end android phones this just doesnt come close. The ram is below spec for v 3. and no dam multi touch... I thought my T28 was my last SE and I gave them i more chance with this. If i had the choice again i would have got the desire no doubt about it....
just hoping when they crack this thing it will be more worth while.... strongly doubt it.....

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fk the x10 i should have waitied for something better. i just got a decent deal at the time.
For all the top end android phones this just doesnt come close. The ram is below spec for v 3. and no dam multi touch... I thought my T28 was my last SE and I gave them i more chance with this. If i had the choice again i would have got the desire no doubt about it....
just hoping when they crack this thing it will be more worth while.... strongly doubt it.....
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Hang on, below spec for version 3? You're whining over a recommendation, not requirement, for an OS update that will come out six months after the device was released? Sheesh, some people really need to learn how to have realistic expectations.

fair enough of the v 3 "requirement" RAM is still well below the others anyway ... what really is so good about this phone? timescape... not a chance... mediascape umm.... screen, a little bigger but not a OLED or anything super.... in call volume is terrible.... outdated software and **** support.
X10 isnt top and thats all there is to it! however... coming from 6.5win this still kicks its ass.

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fair enough of the v 3 "requirement" RAM is still well below the others anyway ... what really is so good about this phone? timescape... not a chance... mediascape umm.... screen, a little bigger but not a OLED or anything super.... in call volume is terrible.... outdated software and **** support.
X10 isnt top and thats all there is to it! however... coming from 6.5win this still kicks its ass.
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The support being **** isn't really fair, we've had more than one update every month that fixes a lot of issues so the support isn't bad. The outdated software has a point but the OS shipped with the phone is being updated and we're going to see a new OS in a matter of weeks.
OLED? I can go on for pages about it but I'll just mention two points. Sunlight and bad resolution.
It's totally crap in sunlight, even more so than any other screen I've experienced. I've tried to use the Desire in sunlight but even max brightness and shading it with my hand didn't help.
The resolution is crap. Period. Not only does it have a effective lower resolution when you use it compared to counting the actual pixels but it also makes text and high contrast graphics really blurry. If you have an oled display nearby I invite you to look closely at black text on white background on both it and a tft display and compare them. Even though the difference is smaller when look at from a distance many have complained that the difference, even though hard to notice from a distance, gives them headaches.
For me brighter colours don't make up for crap resolution. I'll gladly take fewer colors if it means that I can read on it and use it outdoors.

Should I buy an X10

I have fallen in love with the X10 since it was leaked last year. Its the only phone I think the ui is sexy. I have a mytouch slide I like it but wouldn't mind an X10 for a while. I have dug thru the forums for this phone and I see it has some issues and I don't see any roms for it yet. Since I'm on tmo usa I will have to wait for a unlocked phone to come about. My questions are:
how is the performance?
Are there really that many issues or are a few select people having problems?
And are there any devs on working on this phone?
I know the update to 2.1 is taking awhile cause the ui and I don't expect sony to give it froyo but maybe some dev will. Thanks guys.
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yes there are issues with X10 now but you can wait until update, at present it has 1.6 android which is out of date buit soon sony Xperia X10 is getting 2.1
you should wait until then and if you can not wait then its better to go for motorola droid x or desire they both are good phones with good screens, multitouch ( for games etc ) and good call volumes latest android

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I have fallen in love with the X10 since it was leaked last year. Its the only phone I think the ui is sexy. I have a mytouch slide I like it but wouldn't mind an X10 for a while. I have dug thru the forums for this phone and I see it has some issues and I don't see any roms for it yet. Since I'm on tmo usa I will have to wait for a unlocked phone to come about. My questions are:
how is the performance?
Are there really that many issues or are a few select people having problems?
And are there any devs on working on this phone?
I know the update to 2.1 is taking awhile cause the ui and I don't expect sony to give it froyo but maybe some dev will. Thanks guys.
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Frankly speaking X10 is not as good as it was 2 months back........back then there were no option,now you have better alternatives.....starting with Galaxy s,Droid 2 ,Droid X and whole lot lot of bunch
P.S If you really want to stand out from the crowd get a White X10

Every phone with its weakness, X10 with low call volume(ok for me),1.6 OS, no MT(not needed for me),but the others have their issue too just like the Samsung Galaxy with the GPS signal(losing it).
So if you can live with the X10's so called ''problems'' it is a great device,if not then buy something else.

Can't say the other phone doesn't have issue either.
everything have feature that other phone doesn't. I personally don't see xperia 10 is behind on other phones because it is using a personalized android 1.6 vs 2.2 which have nothing desirable for me.
the 3 major feature you will miss are
720 recording - which i am sure you can live without it.
16 million colour - once again, my eyes can't tell the differences. that well to even brother.
flash - xperia 10 can watch flash enable media ( can watch flash movie @ tudou.com) but can't use them (as menu or web content) with skyfire.
i have no idea why that akshay insist it have low call volumne, i think his phone is busted or he got 1 of those millionth faulty one. I personally have no problem calling out or hearing people talks on my phone unless i am in an heavy noisy area that i can't even hear someone shout @ 1M away.
There are app that can hack your speaker i think if you rooted on the market.
Mind you, if you compare the latest phone you will only found them having
1. 2.1 or 2.2 soon
2. a front camera for video conference, (i live in canada, no one use smart phone with front camera here)
3. larger screen by 0.1 inch
4. 16 million color but worser camera.
5. If you didn't know 90% of those phone can't use under bright sun, but guess what, Xperia 10 CAN.
6. they are all "black", but mine is WHITE and have great design http://seinsider.com/?p=2525 If i will find a way to get one of those later and show off.
7. I like sony, i like having a sony brivia x2, sony ps3, a sony BR, a sony dog, and ...no i don't like sony laptops.

If you are like me that like the design and the white X10 when I first saw the pics of it last November, then I say, go for it. When it came out of the market last March, I said to myself, I'll wait for it to get the latest Android 2.1 and buy it. Big Mistake! I was not satisfied with the other phone that I bought, so after three months of using that phone, I got bored with it, and finally bought X10. Now, I'm using the X10 only, and only once in a while, use the other one. I can never be happier...

Thanks for all the replies. Glad to see people are happy with the phone. 1.6 is not a deal breaker for me. And yes if I buy one definitely the white one has my eye. I can careless for froyo cause I had froyo on my mytouch slide. Nothing I won't miss. I think I will head to a at&t store and play with one. Thanks for the link awesome shells. Anymore thoughts are welcomed.
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I have the White X10i, its been great for me so far! The battery life is really good, the camera is awesome and the interface is a pleasure to use!
In regards to the 2.1 update that we are all longing after so much, the only thing I would really embrace with open arms is the ability to record video in 720p!.

just fyi in case you missed it, the X10i has 3G banding for T-Mobile, and the X10a has the banding for AT&T. Also I thought AT&T is only selling the black version? So from what I understand you want, you should buy an unlocked white X10i off the net.
X10 is great, best looking phone on the market and best camera in an Android phone. Screen resolution is awesome, videos etc are not as vibrant as AMOLED or Super AMOLED screen sure, but text is sharper and being usable in sunlight is a huge plus. For Canadians I think it's the best overall Android option still, you guys have a lot more choices down south and I can't say the same. Froyo is huge regardless of your experience, SE has done a lot to make 1.6 good, but it's shoddy customization isn't enough at this point in the game compared to all the 2.2 offerings on the market now.
If I were you I would wait a few more weeks until you know what that big HSPA+ device for T-Mo is before making any big purchases

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just fyi in case you missed it, the X10i has 3G banding for T-Mobile, and the X10a has the banding for AT&T. Also I thought AT&T is only selling the black version? So from what I understand you want, you should buy an unlocked white X10i off the net.
X10 is great, best looking phone on the market and best camera in an Android phone. Screen resolution is awesome, videos etc are not as vibrant as AMOLED or Super AMOLED screen sure, but text is sharper and being usable in sunlight is a huge plus. For Canadians I think it's the best overall Android option still, you guys have a lot more choices down south and I can't say the same. Froyo is huge regardless of your experience, SE has done a lot to make 1.6 good, but it's shoddy customization isn't enough at this point in the game compared to all the 2.2 offerings on the market now.
If I were you I would wait a few more weeks until you know what that big HSPA+ device for T-Mo is before making any big purchases
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I remember a X10 passing thru with tmo bands last year but never of it again. Thanks for the info. From the articles I have read the HSPA+ device is probably gonna be the mytouch hd. Ill pass on that. But I will do research the X10I. Thanks again.
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How much storage space is there for apps?
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500mb or 1 GB i think, but the canadian version all came with a 16gb SD micro. I don't really have many large apps beside co-pilot with 3 gb maps.

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500mb or 1 GB i think, but the canadian version all came with a 16gb SD micro. I don't really have many large apps beside co-pilot with 3 gb maps.
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X10I has 384mb ram from one source I have read. My slide has 512mb ram and only 145mb partitioned for apps.
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He never asked about the ram.
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He never asked about the ram.
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How do u like ur x10i?
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I love mine -it's the dogs cogs.. There's 1Gb of Memory but it's use is restricted by Android 1.6.. so at the moment it's using... Download Cache - 111Mb; Data - 465Mb; RAM - 268Mb. (reading directly from Android System Info app)

Youre better off buying an unlock iphone or waits for the sony ericsson psp2 because the x10 is rather slow and no brand name app.
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With gadgetry it's unpossible to form an opinion just by reading specs and reviews. When you look at the specs of the X10 it's a good phone, when you look at the software versions it's a poor phone. But the most important part, the feel, you'll have to find out yourself.
When I replaced my iPhone with my X10 I was a "smart shopper" and tried out many different devices, usually I just grab what looks cool. My favourites were the X10, Touch HD2 (I know, but I liked the hardware) and the Desire. The Touch HD2 fell out of the running pretty quickly since it runs WinMo and I wanted Android.
The Desire is a really nice phone, it's got good hardware and it runs Android but it had a few problems. First off the screen is pretty poor. The colours are great but it's way too fuzzy for my taste. The general solidity, or feel, was also pretty bad. It's feels too plastic and cheap for my taste.
The X10 felt slightly sluggish and bogged down, but since it's software I figured I could fix that pretty easily which I did. The Android version worried me at first but some investigation turned up that the differences between this custom 1.6 and the HTC version of 2.0 were pretty minimal. In the end I went for the X10 because it has a way better screen, it has a more solid feel to it and a pretty nice camera.
This was a few months ago but no new phones have really caught my eye, most look too non-descript or iPhone-like for my taste.
There's my reasoning, hope it helps.

ddewbofh said:
With gadgetry it's unpossible to form an opinion just by reading specs and reviews. When you look at the specs of the X10 it's a good phone, when you look at the software versions it's a poor phone. But the most important part, the feel, you'll have to find out yourself.
When I replaced my iPhone with my X10 I was a "smart shopper" and tried out many different devices, usually I just grab what looks cool. My favourites were the X10, Touch HD2 (I know, but I liked the hardware) and the Desire. The Touch HD2 fell out of the running pretty quickly since it runs WinMo and I wanted Android.
The Desire is a really nice phone, it's got good hardware and it runs Android but it had a few problems. First off the screen is pretty poor. The colours are great but it's way too fuzzy for my taste. The general solidity, or feel, was also pretty bad. It's feels too plastic and cheap for my taste.
The X10 felt slightly sluggish and bogged down, but since it's software I figured I could fix that pretty easily which I did. The Android version worried me at first but some investigation turned up that the differences between this custom 1.6 and the HTC version of 2.0 were pretty minimal. In the end I went for the X10 because it has a way better screen, it has a more solid feel to it and a pretty nice camera.
This was a few months ago but no new phones have really caught my eye, most look too non-descript or iPhone-like for my taste.
There's my reasoning, hope it helps.
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Thank u for the reply. I think the difference between 1.6 and 2.0 isn't a big deal to me either. I have 2.1 now but don't Ming having 1.6 again. Now that I know there is one with tmo bands and I can still get 3g makes me want the phone more.
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I had it and it wasn't that great, should wait for the bootloader to become unlocked.
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