I have used CM7 and TW quite a bit in my day. What I've noticed is that while CM7 is very snappy TW is not that bad on its own. Why would I prefer 2.2 then? Simply put CM7 is a beta. Nothing more nothing less.
At first the data going out and phantom button presses (the LED buttons act like they've been physically pressed by you) weren't a big deal. But after some time it became a huge hassle pulling the battery often so that I could sync data. When the phantom button presses went berserk it was impossible to use the phone. GPS has always been a sore spot on the Fascinate. On TW it doesn't always lock immediately but does within a minute. On CM7 it would typically take 15+ min if it ever did lock. Battery life is not that great on the AOSP hack. Uptime is 6h11m at 87% battery using UKB v2.1 (ED01 2.2 Froyo).
CM7 is awesome despite these shortcomings. It's awesome that jt is making this for our phones. I am merely writing something that I wish I would've been able to read when I first tried CyanogenMod for the Fascinate. I have a Motorola Droid with CM7. It's really nice and I believe this to be b/c it's been on there much longer than the Fascinate. I hope in time CM7 becomes stable enough for every day use.
cool story bro
Title should be 2.2>CM7, at the moment anyway.
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I have used CM7 and TW quite a bit in my day. What I've noticed is that while CM7 is very snappy TW is not that bad on its own. Why would I prefer 2.2 then? Simply put CM7 is a beta. Nothing more nothing less.
At first the data going out and phantom button presses (the LED buttons act like they've been physically pressed by you) weren't a big deal. But after some time it became a huge hassle pulling the battery often so that I could sync data. When the phantom button presses went berserk it was impossible to use the phone. GPS has always been a sore spot on the Fascinate. On TW it doesn't always lock immediately but does within a minute. On CM7 it would typically take 15+ min if it ever did lock. Battery life is not that great on the AOSP hack. Uptime is 6h11m at 87% battery using UKB v2.1 (ED01 2.2 Froyo).
CM7 is awesome despite these shortcomings. It's awesome that jt is making this for our phones. I am merely writing something that I wish I would've been able to read when I first tried CyanogenMod for the Fascinate. I have a Motorola Droid with CM7. It's really nice and I believe this to be b/c it's been on there much longer than the Fascinate. I hope in time CM7 becomes stable enough for every day use.
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/me slaps AuroEdge for this Blasphemy
Hey! Remember 2.1? lolololololol
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Hey! Remember 2.1? lolololololol
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yea, I suppose that pretty soon people are gonna start saying that 2.1 was better than the AOSP GB roms we have now as well. Douchebags
I actually get better GPS on the AOSP roms. I've moved back to TW until I'm sure the SD card issues are resolved, but AOSP was much better for me other than that.
I think the take away here is that no single solution works best for every person or phone.
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yea, I suppose that pretty soon people are gonna start saying that 2.1 was better than the AOSP GB roms we have now as well. Douchebags
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That's quite a leap.
I picked 2.2 > 2.3 instead of 2.2 > CM7 because both have/had a way of messing up sd cards.
Im sorry but the latest MIUI Fascinatemtd rom is pretty much the greatest experience I have ever had on a phone and it is GB based. I haven't had one problem with it yet(fingers crossed).
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I picked 2.2 > 2.3 instead of 2.2 > CM7 because both have/had a way of messing up sd cards.
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2.2 on the fascinate was an epic FAIL. We waited FOREVER for froyo source to drop and when it did, it was so crappy that it fixed/improved NOTHING on AOSP. If it wasn't for fascinatemtd, I wouldn't even have a fascinate still. Thank you jt1134. Oh, and FYI, the SD card issue has been resolved for about a week now. /me still slaps AuroEdge for saying TW is better than mtd.
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If/when official GB comes out for our phone, it could quite possibly help jt1134 fix the remaining issues with CM7, as some of it are just slight changes in the kernel that need fixed to make things work, but what is available for Froyo doesn't help, nor does what is currently available for GB. Will everything be magically fixed with GB? Probably not, but it could help fix the minor issues that are still there.
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2.2 on the fascinate was an epic FAIL. We waited FOREVER for froyo source to drop and when it did, it was so crappy that it fixed/improved NOTHING on AOSP. If it wasn't for fascinatemtd, I wouldn't even have a fascinate still. Thank you jt1134. Oh, and FYI, the SD card issue has been resolved for about a week now. /me still slaps AuroEdge for saying TW is better than mtd.
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I'd be back on VGB in a heartbeat if anyone could verify that the SD card issues are fixed. I've seen it claimed a couple places, but never with any justification presented. There's a report just up on RW of an SD failure on the latest version. Of course the report may be attributable to user error, but I'd feel better about it if someone could actually point to the fix rather than just claim everything is ok.
I've been excited for what possibilities lie in wait for CM7. Especially if this new v2.3 leak is real and useful. I really like CM7.
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I'd be back on VGB in a heartbeat if anyone could verify that the SD card issues are fixed. I've seen it claimed a couple places, but never with any justification presented. There's a report just up on RW of an SD failure on the latest version. Of course the report may be attributable to user error, but I'd feel better about it if someone could actually point to the fix rather than just claim everything is ok.
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There were two changes that Jt made to his kernel a couple of weeks ago that were causing the SD card issues. Jt identified these particular changes and has IN FACT reverted both of these commits. The kernel is now safe and so is your SD card. I've been on vgb/pool party for about two weeks straight now, no SD card issues.
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There were two changes that Jt made to his kernel a couple of weeks ago that were causing the SD card issues. Jt identified these particular changes and has IN FACT reverted both of these commits. The kernel is now safe and so is your SD card. I've been on vgb/pool party for about two weeks straight now, no SD card issues.
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Hmm, I've been trying to keep up with his RW thread, but must have missed that post. I saw some mention of kernel changes in the CM7 thread, but nothing specific to the SD card issue. Not saying you're wrong, just pointing out why I'm concerned.
What do you make of the reported SD failure to mount in CWM on the newest VGB?
If you want to be 100% safe, just use glitch. It uses the froyo bootloader and is not a part of any of the issues to do with SD cards.
the vanilla kernel from JT is for pure speed but glitch gives some awesome things for tweaking performance like voodoo and undervolting/overclocking.
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If you want to be 100% safe, just use glitch. It uses the froyo bootloader and is not a part of any of the issues to do with SD cards.
the vanilla kernel from JT is for pure speed but glitch gives some awesome things for tweaking performance like voodoo and undervolting/overclocking.
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There have been SD failures using glitch. I love the kernel, but it isn't a cure in itself.
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There have been SD failures using glitch. I love the kernel, but it isn't a cure in itself.
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then they would be due to user error or some other unrelated thing.
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then they would be due to user error or some other unrelated thing.
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That's an interesting hypothesis, on what do you base it?
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Firstly, I'd like to make the standard "I love our devs" statement. When I first purchased my Vibrant, I loved the hardware, and absolutely hated the software.
Freezing, glitching music, non functional GPS, you name it; a myriad of issues. Then I flashed my first ROM, and fell in love with it. You guys turn a very mediocre phone, into arguably one of the best phones available, including what's been released after.
This post is more out of curiosity than anything. I currently have Darkies 2.2.1 ROM and it runs like a dream-
How far are we, realistically speaking, to a stable Gingerbread ROM? I follow the current Gingerbread alpha rom threads, and it seems like they aren't making a whole lot of progress. I assume this is because of roadblocks? What is keeping us from moving forward with a Gingerbread rom? Do we need the source released?
Thanks guys.
CM7 beta is now out for the Vibrant. However, that's not what's got me the most excited. The i9000 has recently got a gingerbread ROM leaked from Samsung. This should mean we should see the forums flooded with gingerbread ROMs in the coming days/weeks as soon as somebody can port the kernel over to the vibrant.
i'd say the cm7 is dd-able. no gps is the only real problem i've had, which isn't enough for me to go back to nongingerbread. the external sd doesn't mount, either, but i never used it anyway.... otherwise, sound works, haven't had a problem with data/calls/reboots, camera and video recording work, etc.
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i'd say the cm7 is dd-able. no gps is the only real problem i've had, which isn't enough for me to go back to nongingerbread. the external sd doesn't mount, either, but i never used it anyway.... otherwise, sound works, haven't had a problem with data/calls/reboots, camera and video recording work, etc.
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I would go out on a limb here and say that this is pretty close...
It might be a while before it gets to be a care free DD. The whitehawx and CM iterations both work in theory but they are still pretty raw in terms of total useability.
I say give it a while and we'll see more true GB progress.
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Like I said, the leaked i9000 2.3.2 ROM should have a great effect on the 2.3 GB ROM dev community for the Vibrant.
CM7 is my dd right now, and it actually seems more stable than any other rom I've tried (I had reboots and lockups with bionix when using gps). The tower-based location isn't as accurate as real gps, but is good enough for pulling up directions most of the time. Gps is also supposedly fixed on github, but I think they were saying to hold off on flashing anything from github until they get some issue with the new touchkey driver sorted out.
What are the benefits of GB over Froyo as a daily driver at this point. From what I've read, there's not likely to be any significant performance increase and most of the new features are minor. Other than the cosmetic differences, what's so bad about being stuck on Froyo?
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What are the benefits of GB over Froyo as a daily driver at this point. From what I've read, there's not likely to be any significant performance increase and most of the new features are minor. Other than the cosmetic differences, what's so bad about being stuck on Froyo?
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nothing is bad about being stuck on froyo. i thought people making a big deal about the lock screen animation were being ridiculous, but it really is damn cool. it's just the little things like that, just like it's the little things that make you like a certain rom over another.
that, and 'why not'? they keep making new versions, and we'll keep finding a way to get it on our phones.
i went on i9000 forum and flashed insanity 7.1 gingerbread and it ran fine ...makes me thin we are soooo colse to get it on vibrant hmmmm i say two more weeks ......thats what methink.
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i went on i9000 forum and flashed insanity 7.1 gingerbread and it ran fine ...makes me thin we are soooo colse to get it on vibrant hmmmm i say two more weeks ......thats what methink.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976318
pretty much there
Is there any true bugless/very minimally bugged ROM out there? Tried CM6, CM6, Evervolv, and some others. I'm talking something that can be fully fixed if there are bugs in it, or is there a ROM that will basically be a stock evo with the sprint garbage removed from it, i was wondering maybe I could stick a savagedzen kernel on it and get some better speed from it as well with bettery battery life. I know there is a fresh evo but I don't think that this ROM gets rid of the junkware sprint puts on? Since quadrant scores and the like are mostly useless I'm beginning to even wonder, are you "truly" getting any more speed out of a custom ROM over stock without getting bugs?
Right now I'm on CM7, everything is wonderful, of course except for the bugs. The random 3g -> 1x for no reason, making the internet not even usable. The random mini-lockups/terrible lag that I can get, etc are all just too annoying to deal with when they pop up. It's irritating when I go to my friends and say "here check this out, this thing has more battery life and as fast a he-...oh well actually my internet on it is bugging out right now and the lockscreen I have to really quick reboot for etc etc." What's the point of speed if these sort of things happen, you know? All of the flashiness of gingerbread is starting to urk me with all the bugs it brings, I haven't tried a froyo mod except for myns, I don't remember what kind of bugs I had in that, if any. What's the best way to go from here? Maybe give CM6 a try again and put SZen kernel on it?(I only ever tried it with stock) Thanks for any opinions/sorry for the mini text wall.
Newsflash: CM7 is buggy, and has always been buggy, hence the ever updated releases.
If you want a ROM that's as close to 100% stable as you can find, try the bigger Sense ROM's....
Are there any very stable AOSP ROMs? Especially gingerbread? Or do these only truly become stable when the real releases are out for the phones? Because If that's not the case, why not just run stock, you know? What's the real benefit? The only reason I rooted in the very beginning was to get rid of the junk Sprint has attached in the beginning. I don't mind sense. However ever since I've rooted I've been on a speed/battery hunt thinking I could get something majorly different. Is it even worth it? What is CM6 like with savagedzen for instance? Because that's what I'm thinking of trying next. Or are all AOSP going to have pretty hefty bugs with them one way or another due to the nature of them?
So far the new ports of the Shift roms are solid as a rock. Misfits for stock. Kings for some ultra themed ones and Zone23 for blue.
Give them a try you won't regret disappointed.
Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet
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Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet
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What are you gaining over a stock evo, though. Compared to this?
Years ago the phones were slow and bloated. You could install custom ROMs and actually notice an increase in speed.
With the phones coming out now they are already fast and if you root to look for a speed increase you might not notice much. You will notice all the bloatware gone though.
For a stable ROM I would look for a 2.2 Calk ROM or ones like that. They may not have been updated in awhile but that's because there isn't much to add or change. Everything works.
What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
See I don't understand why the call them "release [clients?]", and then release a "full version", even when the full version is still buggy with devices. I stayed away from CM7 for that exact reason until they finally got the full version up. Once I stuck it on i was enjoying it so much but the bugs are just too annoying to deal with anymore. Can't even show off with it because of them popping up at the dumbest times and then it's like yeah so much for that awesome phone hack. I might go try myn's again or CM6, not sure. I just want the stock apps gone, and I want a stable environment. Speed is nice too. Being unique is nice, when it doesn't have huge drawbacks.
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What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.
On the sense side, I've found Koni's elite series III to be flawless...I'm currently running ava's ginger sense and haven't had any real issues with it either... can't go wrong with either of those.. just my two cents..
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No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.
What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.
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No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.
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I know there isn't a "bug free" ROM or phone. But in terms of crippling bugs, CM7 at the moment for me is horrifying when I'm trying to show it to others especially.
As for the 3g/1x bug it is very real, and it's the worst. I get 1x for no reason inside my house and outside on occasion, it will then switch back to 3g if I restart the phone, or wait [sometimes an absurdly long time] until it fixes itself. I've not had that issue with any other ROMs, stock evo, gingerbread ROMs, or anything of the like. I've reflashed completely fresh with and without the GPS fix, with savagedzen and stock - no difference. Maybe it's just my phone, regardless though, there are so many people asking for help on different areas of CM7 it makes me not want to bother because it is not a truly stable rom for Evo for a lot of people. The battery charger bug I can deal with, mine lags to high hell when it's on the charger - that's something I can fix within an instant and not have it bother me. As for the 3g/1x, the random app mini freezes, the lockscreen not wanting to come on sometimes unless I hold down the button much longer until I restart, and other things of the sort, i cannot. It's not worth the flashy menus, and really the battery life is nothing near a froyo ROM, not even close. (I don't expect it to be).
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What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.
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I use amon 2.3 as well, and I always full wipe after storing a backup on my comp (complete full wipe)
I played with my friend's stock unrooted evo yesterday and no joke, the thing randomly rebooted in my hands while doing nothing special at all.
With that said, any rom here is more stable than stock, but try SavageMod 1.2.1, most stable 2.3.3 I've tried.
I have to endorse Koni's. I ran it for over a month, until I flashed Giger today to pay with 'til Koni releases v.IV
It's not overly themed, perfectly smooth and everything I needed to work did fine, and not one FC the entire time I ran it.
The setup in my sig is how I had it set up. The only difference now, of course, is the ROM
I like sinister for stability, its V4 now and I can't think of a single issue with it.
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The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.
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I always like ava's ROMs for fast and stable - Z4 isn't quite their yet, but give Z3 a shot.
No GB on/off animation mod as of yet, but you can add the GB keyboard to any ROM. There a quite a few diff ones from the themes and apps forum.
Gotta jump in here for some input...
If you just strictly want Sense, I was always a Myn Warm Two Point Two guy.
If you can't live without the screen off animation, Deck's Gingerbread is by far the way to go. Yes, it is built from CM7 to an extent but Deck really does a great job taking care of problems. There is a stable 1.0 and beta 1.2(x). Everyone likes CM7 because its popular and known, but honestly after using CM7 for awhile and then jumping to Deck's rom I will never look back.
If you want to remove the bloat from a stock sprint rom don't forget that you can always just do it by removing the apk's from your system with root explorer or through ADB.
How to through ADB:
--adb remount
--adb shell
-- cd /system/app
--ls
-- Once all the apps show up, you just type: rm <insert the apk name here.apk>
--reboot your phone and BAMMMMM!
No no, its not that. I just wanted to see how many people are using cm9, and how many tried it out but went back to cm7 and so on.
running it on my nook color. havent even tried it on my phone yet.
I tried CM9 and loved it, but CM7 is better as a daily ROM at the moment. Few more fixes to CM9 and I'll be moving over to it permanently.
I really like it Android keeps getting better every year
Exactly 45 people are currently using cm9. Exactly 23 went back to cm7 after trying it out.
* numbers reflect assumptions by the University of Sarcasm.
Aside from some visual tearing on videos and random discoloring in video recording it's running so perfect for me
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my journy.. cm7 rc0 -> miui -> cm9 -> cm7 n34
I prefer miUI but cm7 just gets updated way more.. I feel like it has the latest everything while miUI is still based off of cm7 rc0..
I'll wait until more of the bugs are worked out. I'm still on stock GB (rooted BML) and it has been awesome for me. Battery lasts a full work day, I can go to work and come home with battery life to spare, GPS works without freezes, my music and videos work and play great, I takes great videos and still shots, and the few games I have on there (mainly to entertain my kids) work great too. There is nothing on CM9 as of yet that makes me want to switch until all the bugs get ironed out, which I know will be soon considering our devs have been cranking fixes as fast as lighting lately.
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my journy.. cm7 rc0 -> miui -> cm9 -> cm7 n34
I prefer miUI but cm7 just gets updated way more.. I feel like it has the latest everything while miUI is still based off of cm7 rc0..
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Same here man!
wuts a cm9?
To be honest I have 4 ROMs on nandroids that I switch from at least once a day. I play with CM9 for a couple of hours in the evening trying to get it all set up the way I would like it but it seems signal strength is really poor for some reason. It shows wifi strength as poor 1 room away from my router. My other nandroids are CM7, Sleeper EL30 2.03, and Legendary MTD converted RC2.1.
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To be honest I have 4 ROMs on nandroids that I switch from at least once a day. I play with CM9 for a couple of hours in the evening trying to get it all set up the way I would like it but it seems signal strength is really poor for some reason. It shows wifi strength as poor 1 room away from my router. My other nandroids are CM7, Sleeper EL30 2.03, and Legendary MTD converted RC2.1.
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I wish nandroids didn't take up so much space, otherwise I could do that lmao.XD lol I used cm9, till I reinstalled the app I used to IM my girlfriend and realized it didn't support ICS -.- so restored cm7 backup lmao
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I wish nandroids didn't take up so much space, otherwise I could do that lmao.XD lol I used cm9, till I reinstalled the app I used to IM my girlfriend and realized it didn't support ICS -.- so restored cm7 backup lmao
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4 ROM nandroids and 2 older ones take up about 4GB on a 16GB card. I trimmed down all the bad pix on my card and the backups some ROMs leave when installing and have 5GB left over on the 16GB card.
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my journy.. cm7 rc0 -> miui -> cm9 -> cm7 n34
I prefer miUI but cm7 just gets updated way more.. I feel like it has the latest everything while miUI is still based off of cm7 rc0..
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I don't really have that much time. I'm busy and doing a lot of work just to do the minor fixes that happen every week isn't really worth it for me. V4 should be better for updating, but realistically not much changes week by week anyway.
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Aside from some visual tearing on videos and random discoloring in video recording it's running so perfect for me
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Same here. CM9 has been dam near perfect since I installed it, it even seems to work better than CM7 did on my phone.
Really bummed over the video issues, but I think I may just live with it, as I rarely use video, I mostly take pics.
CM7 just didnt bring enough to the table to make me make a perm change from Legendary RC 2.2 w/ MTD, (which was flawless) but with CM9, I just cant get myself to restore my Legendary backup. Video issues are the only bug that matters (at least to me), and the rest of it was just so much better, I think CM9 is here to stay. Given how great it is now, I cant wait to see what it looks like in a month or two (which seems like a lifetime away, but will be here before I know it)
I can't believe my CM9 wish list has been reduced to:
Video recording fixed (major)
Built in theme support fixed (minor, given I was able to apply a theme by hand)
TV-Out enabled (yah, I know, I'm dreaming)
FM Radio (not needed, just would be cool)
So, with 2 of the 4 items being wishful thinking items, and themes being just a matter of time for it to added in, that leaves a single fix for me to have a flawless (IMO) CM9
I feel as giddy as a schoolgirl!! WOOT!
Hello. I have a Verizon Samsung Fascinate (i500) and yearn for a solution which gives the best of both worlds, that of VZ and mods.
I finally took the leap from Verizon stock and tried an alternate ROM/kernel. As my first choice, I elected to go with CM7. At first, I was astounded! I was tickled pink and could not have been happier I made the change. I still feel that way, at least mostly.
Where I am stuck is that for some reason, the in-call volume and speakerphone are ongoing issues. I know they've been mentioned prior, but I'm at a loss as to why they must exist. If I flash back to stock, these two issues go away. The speakerphone works perfectly as does the in-call volume. However, the battery life sucks, there's all the bloat, and my non-OEM battery won't charge in phone and I receive annoying notifications about it. The screen also won't turn itself off. Per these issues on stock, I feel stock is not a real option.
But the second I change ROM/kernels to CM7, PoolParty, KANG CM7, MIUI, Glitch, etc. these two issues come right back. It seems for all the things I've gained, I have to give up these key items.
Now I see the world advancing to CM9. I wonder... 1) will CM9 support my phone, and 2) if so, will it address and correct these problems? What I dislike about seeing CM9 coming along is that I feel CM7 was left with key issues. After all, while "smart", the device is a PHONE and I think these two things are directly related to the first and foremost purpose - making/receiving calls. Microsoft has this habit... relasing a new OS while the prior one continues to fall short of perfection.
Can anyone out there shed light on these issues and what resolve I might have with this phone?
speakerphone is still a issue but glitch v13.1 has the in-call audio fixed...CM9 is already available for our devices. Look up the ICS 4.0.3 mtd roms, they are basically variants of cm9.
I tried Glitch 13.1, but didn't notice (or realize) the in-call issue was fixed. Will try again.
But... cm9 for the Samsung Fascinate? 1) does it fix the speakerphone issue? and 2) if so, got a link for the fascinate because I am only finding i9000 and others (I have the SCH-i500).
UPDATE - I FOUND A LINK OR TWO. From what I can tell, ICS 4 for the Fascinate is a bit premature at this point, at least for me. I see no reason to flash a ROM which cannot "receive calls". That would really take down the use of my phone. Thanks for the info and I will keep an eye on and fingers crossed for this build over the next month or two.
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I tried Glitch 13.1, but didn't notice (or realize) the in-call issue was fixed. Will try again.
But... cm9 for the Samsung Fascinate? 1) does it fix the speakerphone issue? and 2) if so, got a link for the fascinate because I am only finding i9000 and others (I have the SCH-i500).
UPDATE - I FOUND A LINK OR TWO. From what I can tell, ICS 4 for the Fascinate is a bit premature at this point, at least for me. I see no reason to flash a ROM which cannot "receive calls". That would really take down the use of my phone. Thanks for the info and I will keep an eye on and fingers crossed for this build over the next month or two.
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Teamhacksung ICS build 6 has everything working...AOKP ICS and Gummy ICS have everything working but mms. You can find Teamhacksung at rootzwiki and the other 2 roms are in the dev section(or you can look my guide up, its a couple threads down from this...refer to section4). All of them still have issues with call audio being on blast off everytime you answer and I believe there still is a echo with the speakerphone...since these are mtd based roms just like cm7 some of the issues carried over... until source is released they wont be fixed.
there are 3 "close to fully working" ICS roms in the dev section now.. i'm running gummyfassy with no issues
I will point you another route. You say you want your phone to work perfectly. Like stock does.. And want awesome battery life.. And the ability to charge non OEM battery.. And some customizations..
The only roms that will do all the above are custom Touchwiz roms. With custom voodoo kernel of course.
hint: look for ROM and kernel posts with eh03 in them. That is the most recent Touchwiz release for the fascinate. And don't flash touchwiz from a Mtd ROM. Odin to stock first.
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Custom touchwiz roms have there own issues aswell...random reboots is one and lag is another. Not that its a huge issue...i dont think there is one current rom out there that has some minor bug. The only rom i considered perfect was powerwashed ed05 froyo w/ pbj kernel. Everything flat out worked and had great battery life. Just was not as snappy as gingerbread but definately more reliable.
Im running Superclean 3 Milestone 1 or 2 i cant remember, with the kgb kernel, and universal adrenaline shot 12. my phone is as snappy and smooth as a mtd rom, and i have no issues. everything works, no lag, no reboots. everybody's phone responds differently to roms/kernels. i guess my phone likes this combo.
gummyfassy? what about the speakerphone? and how is battery life?
Never really use speakerphone so I dunno. The kgb kernel has an app that u can boost call levels if thats what ur concerned about
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after reading your OP more thoroughly, the problem you are having is you are going from touchwiz to aosp. theres always going to be things that dont work right with aosp. you're skipping over the modified touchwiz roms and jumping right to aosp. if you want the best of both worlds, try superclean or tsm ressurection.
If you really want a rock solid rom with good performance and battery life go with superclean by nitsuj17 it has no comparison
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donluz said:
gummyfassy? what about the speakerphone? and how is battery life?
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Mtd speakerphone is crap
Touchwiz speakerphone is same as stock..
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speakerphone is actually pretty important to me. I used it mostly while driving, or at least used to when it was working with stock. now that I've gone away from stock (since I've found that Verizon does NOT actually rule the world), this issue has been a slight quest to resolve.
Dj-Dubster_TN said:
If you really want a rock solid rom with good performance and battery life go with superclean by nitsuj17 it has no comparison
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neh4pres said:
Mtd speakerphone is crap
Touchwiz speakerphone is same as stock..
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donluz said:
speakerphone is actually pretty important to me. I used it mostly while driving, or at least used to when it was working with stock. now that I've gone away from stock (since I've found that Verizon does NOT actually rule the world), this issue has been a slight quest to resolve.
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@donluz - Superclean is perfect for you. It ran flawlessly for me, but I decided to try one of the ICS ROMS, which I love. But I too like to use speakerphone while driving, so back to Superclean for me...I think. I can't decide, this ICS is sweet.
Thank you all so much for your invaluable input! It has been quite helpful and did indeed address my questions.
I will keep fingers crossed that the MTD ROMs eventually fix the speakerphone. My main goal for modding was to rid the device of VZ crap and be able to use non-OEM batteries.
Sounds like Superclean is on my horizon. I may even try a custom kernel with it, who knows!
Running Darkside Rom, No wifi, no data connection (I'm not on a network with 3G), GSM only. All syncs are off. No widgets. Pretty much nothing running, yet my phone STILL won't deep sleep. Suspend_Backoff is showing around 99%. Any ideas?
Assuming you did the usual full wipe, i am gonna suggest you re flash because I have never had that sorta problem. I also recommend that you moved up to ics, those ROMs are honestly more stable than gingerbread or stock.... Awesome... Makes amazing ROMs
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Assuming you did the usual full wipe, i am gonna suggest you re flash because I have never had that sorta problem. I also recommend that you moved up to ics, those ROMs are honestly more stable than gingerbread or stock.... Awesome... Makes amazing ROMs
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got one to recommended? I am on the bad chip. Trying not to flash too much.
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got one to recommended? I am on the bad chip. Trying not to flash too much.
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I'm going to have to disagree about Gingerbread being less, well, anything other than new. The GB ROMs I run are smoother, quicker and have better battery life than ANY ICS ROM I've run. Period.
However, if you want ICS, Paranoid Android is a fun one. Also, you might keep an eye on CM9. Whichever port or build is newest will usually have the most up-to-date features. I didn't recommend AOKP because there are lots of updates and fixes here and there and you are wanting to minimize flashing. Don't get me wrong. I'm not bashing AOKP.
ICS is still under heavy development and things will really be great once a 3.0+ kernel is available.
If I were you, I'd run a good GB ROM like CM7.2 Why? Because it works. You might flash a different kernel, but honestly there is nothing wrong with the CM kernel at all and it's VERY stable. If you can accidentally break CM7, you should sell your phone and get an iPhone. Ha!
Also, read the MIUI release threads (not v4). Anytime you see someone say something like, "This build is perfect" or "I have had no problems with this ROM," you know you have a winner.
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I'm going to have to disagree about Gingerbread being less, well, anything other than new. The GB ROMs I run are smoother, quicker and have better battery life than ANY ICS ROM I've run. Period.
However, if you want ICS, Paranoid Android is a fun one. Also, you might keep an eye on CM9. Whichever port or build is newest will usually have the most up-to-date features. I didn't recommend AOKP because there are lots of updates and fixes here and there and you are wanting to minimize flashing. Don't get me wrong. I'm not bashing AOKP.
ICS is still under heavy development and things will really be great once a 3.0+ kernel is available.
If I were you, I'd run a good GB ROM like CM7.2 Why? Because it works. You might flash a different kernel, but honestly there is nothing wrong with the CM kernel at all and it's VERY stable. If you can accidentally break CM7, you should sell your phone and get an iPhone. Ha!
Also, read the MIUI release threads (not v4). Anytime you see someone say something like, "This build is perfect" or "I have had no problems with this ROM," you know you have a winner.
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I can only agree with you on battery life and only part way actully. As for rom suggestions:
Synthetic asopX with his kernel
Cm7
Arhd ( sense 3 with gpu rendering)
Dark unicorn resurrected (by ...awesome...)
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I can only agree with you on battery life and only part way actully.
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That's too bad. How long have you had a rooted glacier?
Also, I can't believe I forgot about ARHD. Yeah, that's a good one.
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got one to recommended? I am on the bad chip. Trying not to flash too much.
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Well if you have the bad chip then I'd stay away from any ics rom. Yea they are stable at some point but it seems like after a few days, they get buggy. Be careful with the bad emmc chip. Choose your rom wisely because it could be your last. Whoever said ics is better than gb is on that sherm. Besides being new that's the only thing different. Oh I forgot, you can multitask just a tiny bit better. Ics hasn't been out for a year yet. Still has issues like camera and random reboots and freezes. Hell you can't render gpu on these things without it going crazy. Stick to gingerbread bro and keep your eye on ics. It has gotten better but its still beta. Just think of it as this, gb has 720p recording with no issues on gpu rendering and flys like the wind bulls eye! Take it from a guy that's been with the glacier since development started on this phone.
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Well the thing is, I bought the phone for use overseas, literally just gonna be a backup phone. I don't even use it for inet, in fact, data and wifi are turned off almost at all times.
So with all this said, any further recommendations regarding the suspend_backoff issue? I didn't wanna hit ICS at all, and I'd rather not brick the phone since it was bought off CL, no warranty.
Searching for updates for suspend_backoff issues and found your thread.
Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27418022&postcount=5747 to try identify what's causing the suspend_backoff and then kill that associated process.
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Searching for updates for suspend_backoff issues and found your thread.
Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27418022&postcount=5747 to try identify what's causing the suspend_backoff and then kill that associated process.
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Saw that. Didn't see anything along the lines. Connected via ADB, ran an adb shell, then dmesg, and searched for eventN. No go. Did I do something wrong? What else could I look for?
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Saw that. Didn't see anything along the lines. Connected via ADB, ran an adb shell, then dmesg, and searched for eventN. No go. Did I do something wrong? What else could I look for?
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Not sure if you're still having problems but if it's Chrome-related then apparently turning of Tilt scroll fixes the issue...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743669&page=3
And for htc phones turning off a wifi setting also does the job apparently...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697899
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Well if you have the bad chip then I'd stay away from any ics rom. Yea they are stable at some point but it seems like after a few days, they get buggy. Be careful with the bad emmc chip. Choose your rom wisely because it could be your last. Whoever said ics is better than gb is on that sherm. Besides being new that's the only thing different. Oh I forgot, you can multitask just a tiny bit better. Ics hasn't been out for a year yet. Still has issues like camera and random reboots and freezes. Hell you can't render gpu on these things without it going crazy. Stick to gingerbread bro and keep your eye on ics. It has gotten better but its still beta. Just think of it as this, gb has 720p recording with no issues on gpu rendering and flys like the wind bulls eye! Take it from a guy that's been with the glacier since development started on this phone.
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How would you go about finding out if you have a bad chip? That kinda caught my eye.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081243
This is how to find out if you have the bad emmc chip or not. Just follow the guide.
And if you do have it, don't freak out its not the end of the world. I have a bad chip but my baby is running just fine
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081243
This is how to find out if you have the bad emmc chip or not. Just follow the guide.
And if you do have it, don't freak out its not the end of the world. I have a bad chip but my baby is running just fine
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Thanks...
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got one to recommended? I am on the bad chip. Trying not to flash too much.
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If you are on the bad chip my suggestion would be to flash NEW! [July 26] [Sense 3.5] Energy™ -.¸¸.·´¯ Sense 3.5 / Smooth / Themed
or CM7.2....honestly you cant go wrong with either one of those roms....Whatever you prefer, sense or gb. Those 2 are rock solid.