Hello everyone.
I saw here on XDA forum that have been ported many OS to HTC HD2: WP6, WP7, Linux, Android, etc.
According to what I could check, the hardware of the HTC HD2 is quite similar to the Xperia X10 - same processor, chipset and GPU.
I know that is not an easy job porting an OS, but it would be interesting to see running Mango on a X10... at least I find it interesting.
Maybe some cheff interested in this challenge.
Some info links:
XDA - HTC HD2 Forum
Comparison between X10 and HD2.
Linux porting to X10: BackTrack and Ubuntu
Until bootloader is unlocked, you can't do anything. About ubuntu can port to X10, it's because Android is a part of linux, base on it, and kernel is linux too.
silveraero said:
Until bootloader is unlocked, you can't do anything. About ubuntu can port to X10, it's because Android is a part of linux, base on it, and kernel is linux too.
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True. Even if we could unlock the bootloader, it would be incredibly hard work trying to port other operating systems to the x10.
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to add what the others have said; while the x10 and hd2 are similar, there are circumstances that make it more difficult to port wp7 to the x10.
I might be a little off, but i hope the general idea gets through my piss poor way of explaining things, lol. The HD2 came with WM6.5 and the drivers for WP7 are similar enough that porting WP7 was much easier. In regards to Android, HTC sold an Android version of the HD2 so that huge amount of work (drivers) had already been done.
While the X10 has a similar chipset, cpu, gpu; it has a different radio, digitizer, screen, screen resolution, bootloader process, proximity sensor, speaker interface, accelerometer, gps (maybe), camera and who knows what else? And considering that most of SE's differences haven't been used in windows mobile before, it would be hard to find compatible drivers - writing the drivers would be even harder.
Kinda OT... it may be possible to port WebOS to the X10. I bought an HP touchpad and while I haven't received it yet, i've read that the kernel in it is pretty much Android ready. Parts of WebOS would need to be rewritten in order to use the correct drivers. But then again, I've yet to look at it in depth yet.
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Hi i already posted this on Android Community forum...but i think this must be more appropriate place...so does anybody has any info if it is possible to install the Android OS to a smartphone other than the one that comes with one?
Is it possible to lets say install the Android OS (Linux) to samsung hd i8910, that has symbian OS? Somehow change the firmware to the one with Android? What obstacles exist that this has not been done yet?
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Hi i already posted this on Android Community forum...but i think this must be more appropriate place...so does anybody has any info if it is possible to install the Android OS to a smartphone other than the one that comes with one?
Is it possible to lets say install the Android OS (Linux) to samsung hd i8910, that has symbian OS? Somehow change the firmware to the one with Android? What obstacles exist that this has not been done yet?
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one thing would be drivers.
is it possible to install Android OS on Acer E200 which comes with Windows Mobile 6.5? what are the tools to build the custom Rom?
Ok the drivers...that is major..is anyone doing something similar like writing the new drivers?
Takes a lot of time,knowledge and work to build drivers from scratch to different processors.Reasearch teams take months....
Even for qualcomm processors,because OS´s use it in a somewhat diferent way and is coded in the processor itself...thats what i understood for what i read...might be totally wrong i dont understand nothing about that.
Emulation is possible but it wont be the same...laggy,clutered,buggy,etc.
noaru said:
Ok the drivers...that is major..is anyone doing something similar like writing the new drivers?
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I would highly doubt it, but it's always possible.
noaru said:
Hi i already posted this on Android Community forum...but i think this must be more appropriate place...so does anybody has any info if it is possible to install the Android OS to a smartphone other than the one that comes with one?
Is it possible to lets say install the Android OS (Linux) to samsung hd i8910, that has symbian OS? Somehow change the firmware to the one with Android? What obstacles exist that this has not been done yet?
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Here on XDA, Android has successfully been ported to the HTC Vogue (HTC Touch). Progress is going along rapidly on the Raphael, Diamond, and Blackstone. I don't know about any ports to Symbian phones though, XDA is oriented more towards WinMo.
There might be ports going on to Symbian phones, but there probably won't be much information on any Symbian devices here.
But yes, it is possible to port Android to another smartphone, it just requires a LOT of elbow work.
EDIT: Found this forum, it might interest you. People talking about Android on the i8910 http://forums.samsungi8910omnia.com...-cooked-roms/6239-android-1-6-i8910hd-19.html
Well its always nice to hear, that there is somebody doing something..like you guys here on xda. In the case of i8910 it is the matter of the pure hardware..and type of phone..that is very high end..and cannot be compared with phones of HTC type...not yet..i guess the speed, the capacitive touch screen..processor..camera..only bad thing is sucky symbian..
So, What are the possibilities of getting WebOs on our HD2s? just a question cuz i cant beleive how amazing our phone is...i mean WM7, WM6.5, Android, Ubuntu what else can it run??? hehehe
I would also love to see that happening but I think the chances are pretty slim, at least not anytime soon. The main obstacle is the different hardware (HD2 vs. Palm Pre) and then there is also the lack of interest. We live the Android fever now and WP7 is already at the door...
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the HD2 can run WebOS, but if i'm wrong i do not think that WOS is open source, so we can't try it.
It's not about open source or not, it's about hardware differences, lack of interest....like the poster said above.
WP7 is not open source.
i was thinking of this as well... But it very unlikely to happen since Drivers would need to be created for WOS, and like its been said Everybody is waiting on Android NAND and as well as WP7...
Maybe once this is all done then maybe if the right people see an interest in it then prob
I wonder why folks in palm and hp never thought of that,the main reason palm is dying is simply because of their ugly HW design.
Hd2 with palm os will be one of the killer hp
A Meego port will be more likely. Meego is an os being developed by nokia and intel. It will be designed to have multiple versions including netbook or handheld. It will be used on lots of different hardware. The devs who ported android have already mentioned meego as well.
Hi folks,
i have an idea. i am so much fond of windows mobile 6.5.3 and i really like it. i think it's one of the best os for tablets, especially at 7 inches. now you can google for the mangrove 7 to get the idea. unfortunally, the mangrove 7 has never been in production. so i thought of creating my own: i have found a device with almost the same specifications as the hd2. so it must be possible to port that image onto the device. the device is called: huawei ideos s7 slim.
my question: is it possible to run windows mobile on this device by porting the hd2 rom on it? heres why i think:
the both have:
qualcomm 8250 1ghz
adreno 200
and everything else like gps thats involved with the qualcomm chip.
does anyone have an idea how i get the windows mobile on to this specific tablet?
many thanks!
Jakob Sebens
sure its not impissible. but i diubt it will happen. there is hardly any community supportfor that device. alot of work will be required.
hi, thanks for your reply,
why is alot of working needs to be done?
i thougth it was only a matter of flashing the hd2 rom on the device since they have almost identical specs. or must there be done something to make the device accessible for flashing alternative roms?
best regards and thanks for answering!
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hi, thanks for your reply,
why is alot of working needs to be done?
i thougth it was only a matter of flashing the hd2 rom on the device since they have almost identical specs. or must there be done something to make the device accessible for flashing alternative roms?
best regards and thanks for answering!
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Sure. but you need to understand slot...
1) you need a tool to crack the bootloader.
2) you need to write XIP scripts, files etc. you need to build a kitchen.
3) BASICALLY slot of work will be needed! I say it is not impossible but 99% unlikely to happen.
4) Community support! you need at least 15 devs on this project...
Think about the TG01 .. same specs isnt enough! my TG01has virtually the same specs as the HD2 but it still cant get a decent Android Port/ROM dump from HD2. Same snapdragon CPU/GPU, screen, OS, etc.
same specs does not mean same hardware.
if you learned a bit of digital electronics, surely you know about hardware addresses, etc. in our case, device X for hardware A maybe located at address 0x1234 but the same device on hardware B could be located at 0x1000. these addresses are generally hardcoded in ROMs. it's a lot of work to identify those differences & make the necessary modifications.
(a device can be many things - buttons, screen, touch sensor, speaker, mic, communication ports, etc...)
very much thanks for theses replies, consider this thread closed then. i will buy an htc athena then. thanks all for your help.
Admin: you can close this thread.
I know that this question has been asked in the past… However… now with HTC chacha released in the market with an android OS.
I wonder how high is the possibilities to port android to Snap now? In terms of buttons i believe snap met the "4 buttons" requirement for android. Not sure about the processing and other hardware compatibilities.
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I know that this question has been asked in the past… However… now with HTC chacha released in the market with an android OS.
I wonder how high is the possibilities to port android to Snap now? In terms of buttons i believe snap met the "4 buttons" requirement for android. Not sure about the processing and other hardware compatibilities.
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Hardware capabilities are a constraint. There has been some attempts with non touchscreen phones as the excalibur, but projects have been stopped because new devices are out weekly.
I will move this to general forums btw.
Cheers,
Not possible, Google android needs a Touchscreen to operate it, The Maple/Snap/Dash Doesn't have one........sadly
What about using it on the SE Aspen?? It is touch screen!
It also is 240*320, which is also just like the HTC ChaCHa or the Samsung Galaxy Pro. Can someone PLEASE port it?? To use with Haret perhaps, as they can be used with other resolutions.
Yeah I guess the Aspen can Handle Android, but I guess it depends upon the type of CPU, and if anyone's willing to port it.
Damn, I wish I saw the Aspen before I saw the Maple.
Yes.. The SE Aspen is a good candidate for an Android. It has a good cpu too. the msm7227 600mhz
Maybe it will be very stupid question so Mods can delete it.
I have NO ANY experience in Linux or android. I have programming skills in Delphi and php but that's it - So because HTC Desire Z hardware seems to be kinda very simillar to Ideos x5 and this desire already have official 2.3 version is there any possibility just use that rom add drivers from ideos and use it? We all have different pc's but windows/linux runs in all of them so i think this should be the same
Oxygen, MIUI and CyanogenMod are all Gingerbread based, so no need for another port IMO...
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Oxygen, MIUI and CyanogenMod are all Gingerbread based, so no need for another port IMO...
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But i think that people who made it for HTC maybe done this better (no offence here devs). I always read latest news on those roms and always something is wrong. Anyway Android os is **** IMO. It's ****ing minor update but you can't just install it..you need to ****ing programm it to make it work.. why windows xp can be upgraded but Android cant?
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But i think that people who made it for HTC maybe done this better (no offence here devs). I always read latest news on those roms and always something is wrong. Anyway Android os is **** IMO. It's ****ing minor update but you can't just install it..you need to ****ing programm it to make it work.. why windows xp can be upgraded but Android cant?
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I assume you own a huawei x5 phone... didn't you know that it is an Android phone? And if yes, why did you get it if you think android is ****?
And you're wrong in thinking devs can't produce high quality custom ROMS as miui, oxygen and Cyanogen ROMS will show you. Yes, there are minor bugs, but they are being worked on.
On the quality of the android community, remember that it wasn't by chance that Samsung hired Cyanogen mod's founder...
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I assume you own a huawei x5 phone... didn't you know that it is an Android phone? And if yes, why did you get it if you think android is ****?
And you're wrong in thinking devs can't produce high quality custom ROMS as miui, oxygen and Cyanogen ROMS will show you. Yes, there are minor bugs, but they are being worked on.
On the quality of the android community, remember that it wasn't by chance that Samsung hired Cyanogen mod's founder...
Sent from my Huawei u8800
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Just because i own android phone it doesn't mean that i don't think that it's not **** And yes android rocks, but it's **** what comes to upgrades and so on it's way to complicated... too much new versions coming up too frequently. As i read- 94% of iphone users uses newest versions of os, but only 0.4% of android users have the newest version So is this phone companies problem or Android-i think it's android, but i may be wrong.
And i respect the devs who makes custom roms, THEY ARE AWESOME, like Charlie Sheen!
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Just because i own android phone it doesn't mean that i don't think that it's not **** And yes android rocks, but it's **** what comes to upgrades and so on it's way to complicated... too much new versions coming up too frequently. As i read- 94% of iphone users uses newest versions of os, but only 0.4% of android users have the newest version So is this phone companies problem or Android-i think it's android, but i may be wrong.
And i respect the devs who makes custom roms, THEY ARE AWESOME, like Charlie Sheen!
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It is more to the companies, that are holding the updates. They dont want keep older models up to date because it would hinder their selling of newer models.
If u want a phone that is allways most up-to-date, get a Google Nexus...
You're absolutely wrong...from any perspective
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Just because i own android phone it doesn't mean that i don't think that it's not **** And yes android rocks, but it's **** what comes to upgrades and so on it's way to complicated... too much new versions coming up too frequently. As i read- 94% of iphone users uses newest versions of os, but only 0.4% of android users have the newest version So is this phone companies problem or Android-i think it's android, but i may be wrong.
And i respect the devs who makes custom roms, THEY ARE AWESOME, like Charlie Sheen!
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I think that you have no BASIC understanding on Operating System and hardware components...
Every manufacturer releases updates, just like the one you quoted on this thread from HTC and to upgrade the Desire Z it's very easy, perhaps easier than windows Xp if you want to compare. So, that applies for Huawei in the same manner, except Huawei hasn't realeased 2.3 Roms yet.
Because every handset manufacturer, just like computers, has different hardware components within the phones, it makes the operating system very difficult to port from a handset to another and that's where devs come into equation.
To make this easier to understand, try copying windows files from an Intel machine and start that on an AMD machine...Let me know how that goes.
You're wrong about Android, it's not difficult at all to upgrade or install, in 15 minutes you can have a fresh installation done, with EVERYTHING you had in previous version of Android (including apps, contacts, settings etc) I'd like to see that happening with IOS from Apple, when it takes ages to do an upgrade, not to mention a fresh install...
Android is the most versatile operating system on the market at the moment and time will tell...It started from practically nothing and now it's the most used mobile OS on the market.
Now on this topic, which is useless by the way, this Rom is a stock one for Desire Z, which has absolutely no use for any existing development project.
This reply may sound a bit blunt, but you don't really know what you're talking about...
I know what i'm talking about, i just, as i mentioned, i do not know linux.
I very well know operating systems and that mobiles have a harware that have to be driven by software, and alll of them needs drivers... So as i sayd - take drivers from 2.2 and put them in 2.3 - if android is so versatile it should work. That's what was the main question- why it's not possible to do that. We already have Ideos drivers. Or you need to edit some core android files to fit hardware?
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I know what i'm talking about, i just, as i mentioned, i do not know linux.
I very well know operating systems and that mobiles have a harware that have to be driven by software, and alll of them needs drivers... So as i sayd - take drivers from 2.2 and put them in 2.3 - if android is so versatile it should work. That's what was the main question- why it's not possible to do that. We already have Ideos drivers. Or you need to edit some core android files to fit hardware?
Anyway let's leave this topic, moderators can delete it
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im not any linux expert, and i just have basic understanding of OS in principle back from my colleage days..
anyway i would think that there are already lots of experts working on this android phone, and if it's really that simple to accomplish, it should have been accomplished already..
and if it happens that we have to wait for each iteration of the update to get little bit of improvements here and there, there are reasons behind..
(this is from my experience as a java programmer for ten years..)
and finally, if u think u can out-smart those guys, why not go and prepare a ROM urself?
ur words will then be much recognised with a ROM to speak on ur behalf..
WHo said i can out think them? Just i saw official ROM to work with this particular processor what ideos have and i was thinking-hey maybe that's what they need'ed - some "Drivers" for this processor so they can extract it and use it. That's it.
And it's sounds kinda very logic to me.
cause i don't uderstand - how it cannot work if 2.2 have all drivers need'ed so what's the problem? And that's the question because of no knowledge in Android, and i'm thinking from windows perspective and by that point it looks very easy.
[unless they need source codes of drivers and Huawei do not share them, so they cannot use compiled versions or something.
hmm it sounds good, but let say that the processor and the GPU are the same like in the Desire Z, the RAM chip is different, the display is different , the mainboard is different the camera is different ,sensors are differnet and when we combine all that in one ROM with CPU drivers from Desire Z and all old rivers from huawei we get totall mess
So that why DEV's just make optimization of all that stuff to work normal (well thats why appears and some minor bugs because is hard to compile new drivers and software to run over them)