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The HTCANDROID project! Let's get it running!

Hey!
As i've previously mentioned here once (I think), i started a small forum where I tried to gather all the setups for running Android on various HTC models. Now that the HTC G1 (Dream) is soon released, we will will get some very interesting challenges while trying to build Android ROM's, etc..
This forum is great, but its also very big. Thought that it might be a good idea to have our android resources on a separate forum?
Anyways, thought i could register a domain and such, but for now the forum is at http://www.connect-utb.com/htcandroid
Some of you are there already! Hopefully, with the experienced user base we have here, we can get Android ROMS and whatnot for our HTC models, as the HTC Dream looks rather poor. (Although better devices will surely come in the future).

you must be joking. Android is a total OS unlike apps that we see all over which are portable among HTC devices. It takes months alone just to get Android as it is today for the kaiser. Mostly everything for WM can be ported among other devices which some exceptions to nontouch devices. It'll be a long time until you see Android ported over to more devices than now. My suggestion would be to use a device that's got android projects already in progress or at your nearest convenience to buy a device with android on it.

Think we misunderstand each other, but you dont believe that if we can extract the android ROM from the HTC Dream, and modify and install it on lets say, the Kaiser?

You can always try before saying that it isn't going to work.
I will track this post because i'm very curious by the Android OS.

I get it...and completely understand what this is about...it's HTC...which means theoretically we should be able to at least somewhat get it working...I've started a wizard thread on your new forum in hopes that any information or progress getting it ported over gets posted all in one location for easy access....kudo's for thinking ahead as I dont think android is going anywhere soon and while this forum is very useful it's mostly for winmo devices....nothing wrong with speading the wings a lil bit and branching out...
looking forward to the press conference!!

I would say we should be able to get Android to run on the OS level of our devices, but it will probably need a bit of modifying. However, since it's open source I'm hoping the modifying will be a lot easier because of this.

Hey,
I was just on HTC homepage ( htc.com ), where the G1 is shown.
They printed the specs, which are very similar to the diamond
Same chipset, same rom size, same ram size,...
SO I think, it would be ( maybe easily?) possible to port android to the diamond
greets doena

WatskeBart said:
I will track this post because i'm very curious by the Android OS.
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Same here!

If my memory does not fail, I remember that one of the first peaks at Android was being run in a Blue Angel. So, I guess there is a big chance that we might in fact be able to see Android running on more than one device (of course, you will have more or less features depending on the device's capabilities and hardware limitations, namely apps that work with an accelerometer, etc).
Maybe, the development should be worth following because as much as I don't want to believe it, my device (Blue Angel) will only trick death for so long (by death I mean not being able to move to newer versions of WM) and we will need a way to pass the time .

HTC Touch Vogue in progress of being ported
Hey don't forget about the senior member "DZO" that started ANDROID porting to HTC Vogue and it is Successful
This is his direct link to the files : http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue
And here is the link to the posting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265
I think he did a GREAT job porting Android. I am running Android 0.9 with most of the featuress except installing programs but only because he is the only one that does that. So, he needs help! I am sure... Plus, on this site people are cheeping in for HTC Diamond so he can work on that too...
Here is the link: http://www.myhtcphone.com
So, if you want something done we should start by contributing either money, or programming support! I wish I knew how to program this
ahhhh I wish I would have fully functional Android on my HTC

Thanks for the support! The forums are slightly active now!
Hopefully, we will be able to get Android running more or less flawless soon! As pointed out, its possible!

he he nice link, it seems that there are allready htc devices running with android.

just wondering, is it possible to have dual boot in one device ?

hmmm, seems to have no desktop syncing.. this may be a huge set back for anyone trying to get androig running on another HTC device.

crescentsaber said:
just wondering, is it possible to have dual boot in one device ?
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well currently (or in the case of the vogue) android is being booted via haret (a linux bootloaded) running on top of windows mobile.. so i guess its already kind of dual boot

For now, Android has to be run from within Windows Mobile, so no true dual boot yet

Already started
Hey you guys might want to check out the following links. Over at PPC Geeks they already have a thread going:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=23244
Also if you want to download the current Android cab for HTC go to:
http://www.myhtcphone.com/

doena said:
Hey,
I was just on HTC homepage ( htc.com ), where the G1 is shown.
They printed the specs, which are very similar to the diamond
Same chipset, same rom size, same ram size,...
SO I think, it would be ( maybe easily?) possible to port android to the diamond
greets doena
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Diamond doesnt have QWERTY keyboard, so i think it could be on Touch Pro instead

Someone ported Android for BlueAngel?
Please can someone tell me if Android is already running in BlueAngel? If there is a way show me how. Thanks Man!!!

Maybe I'm mistaken, but wasn't Android made so that it can run on a wide range of devices. I, for one, can't wait till its ported to samsung omnia. Damn, that would be good!
@Coldheat,
What does the cab file do? Its an OS, so cab file??

Possible to replace windows mobile with android ?

Hi all,
Just wondered if anyone know if it is possible to replace windows mobile completely with android on the HTC HD2 ?
I have read articles around the net with how you can from windows, run HaRet and it can boot into Android, but would be better if you could replace it completely.
Link to arcticle
Does anyone know if possible ?

I can only imagine that would be incredibly difficult, atleast if you wanted Sense to run well ontop of it since it's adapted ontop of Windows Mobile. Maybe not, worth a shot I guess?

MrMagicMushroom said:
I can only imagine that would be incredibly difficult, atleast if you wanted Sense to run well ontop of it since it's adapted ontop of Windows Mobile. Maybe not, worth a shot I guess?
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Actually, Sense isn't the problem as there are now Android phones running Sense (obviously an Android version, not the Windows one).
There's an ongoing thread about getting Android to work on WM phones. I believe it runs, but about 50% of important stuff doesn't work, so it's not worth doing yet.
Search the forums - it's there somewhere.

RippieUK said:
Hi all,
Just wondered if anyone know if it is possible to replace windows mobile completely with android on the HTC HD2 ?
I have read articles around the net with how you can from windows, run HaRet and it can boot into Android, but would be better if you could replace it completely.
Link to arcticle
Does anyone know if possible ?
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People are already working on it.
However, it's a difficult task and most likely we'll have WM7 before Android works on the HD2 and nobody will care about Android anymore.
Or there will be better hardware running Android at the time they manage to make it run on the HD2.

johncmolyneux said:
Actually, Sense isn't the problem as there are now Android phones running Sense (obviously an Android version, not the Windows one).
There's an ongoing thread about getting Android to work on WM phones. I believe it runs, but about 50% of important stuff doesn't work, so it's not worth doing yet.
Search the forums - it's there somewhere.
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huch, did i miss smoething? android is already running on the leo?

it is not running yet, it comes with WM.

Hah, I went on youtube and pocketnow had this video up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvj4ObHmxCI
Interesting!

Maemo on HTC HD2

There have recently been some fake videos of maemo 5 running on the HTC HD2.
This operating system has a very much supportive community which develops apps and ports for the n900 similar to this one.
If these two communities could be bought together it would create an insane phone. I personally feel that having maemo on the HTC HD2 would make this phone deadly and rip other devices to pieces by giving users not only windows mobile 6.5 and android, but also extending the device to the beautiful maemo.
What do you think about this?
Would you like to see maemo on your HD2?
If there are any developers out there or people who know what they are doing could you please try to port this OS over as it would be greatly appreciated by many!
Thank you.

I think it might be possible after the developers have more time away from the Android efforts. Maemo is also Linux based, so it hopefully shouldn't be too difficult after they get Android working smoothly.

Just because it is possible doesn't mean it will happen it depends of the demand on this OS from the HD2 users i love this OS and think it would be awesome on the HD2 screen and hardware.
I am sure there are many HD2 users who would love to use this on there devcie.

I think there is no hardware similar to the HD2 running Maemo, this means no proper drivers to build a port.

cederron said:
I think there is no hardware similar to the HD2 running Maemo, this means no proper drivers to build a port.
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wrong...
as it is based on linux kernel the drivers from android should work...

Maemo would give the HD2 a new level of decisions for the owners, a new level of customisabillity. i wish i knew how and wish i had the knowledge to enable myself to do such a thing but cannot as i haven't.
Maemo WOULD beable to work on the HD2 with some effort put in by the right person.
If android can, android is linux, maemo can, maemo is linux.
But the question is will it?

I would love to see another option for the hd2. The more options the more people are attracted to the phone. More people should bring more development.

hazard99 said:
I would love to see another option for the hd2. The more options the more people are attracted to the phone. More people should bring more development.
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I completely agree with you.
If people had the option to choose the OS on a phone that could attract so many people to the phone. Because i know of many people who don't like windows, but would buy a windows phone if they could get more than one OS on it.
I would be like a master phone suited to everybody.

oh I wish to see this... i like Maemo very much, I had a N900 as second phone, it was amazing, maybe cooler than android, but what can I say... it didnt have a chance, too short life-time.

HD2 Meego is a success?!

I did not see news of this posted, but I'm not sure how credible the sources are because I cannot find HD2 info on the links posted, maybe you guys can understand this better.
http://www.techtree.com/India/News/HTC_HD2_gets_Android_NAND_ROM_MeeGo_11_Install/551-114013-580.html
http://blog.steventroughtonsmith.com/2010/12/meego-11-running-on-htcs-hd2.html

I didn't know it was possible to load Meego on the HD2 :O. Just got Android NAND, but I would like to see this on there as wel.

I watched the video how HD2 running Meego. It's laggy. Seems need some development but that video shows running Meego is possible on HD2. They's linux base anyway.

So, i will ask question in more general way:
Will i be able to test meego without deleting data of my current NAND Android?

matejdro said:
So, i will ask question in more general way:
Will i be able to test meego without deleting data of my current NAND Android?
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From what I can tell you might need windows mobile because it might need Haret to start. I am not certain though, its just a guess.

matejdro said:
So, i will ask question in more general way:
Will i be able to test meego without deleting data of my current NAND Android?
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Vampir1c said:
From what I can tell you might need windows mobile because it might need Haret to start. I am not certain though, its just a guess.
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Here is a post from the dude developing it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11174066&postcount=145
this means you can keep you Android NAND rom just fine

anyway my opinion that MEEGO future is unknown now.
Looks like Nokia plans to release first phone with X86 inside, it can means that ARM versions won't be developed at all (or won't be so cool, like X86)
As well I heard nokia plans to use own programs, which will replace MEEGO standard. It can result in bad quality of this internal programs, because all will use Nokia's own versions.
As well I don't think other manufactures will support MEEGO a lot - they have Android for choose, which is more preferable from market point of view.
Anyway, time will show the truth

Cotulla said:
anyway my opinion that MEEGO future is unknown now.
Looks like Nokia plans to release first phone with X86 inside, it can means that ARM versions won't be developed at all (or won't be so cool, like X86)
As well I heard nokia plans to use own programs, which will replace MEEGO standard. It can result in bad quality of this internal programs, because all will use Nokia's own versions.
As well I don't think other manufactures will support MEEGO a lot - they have Android for choose, which is more preferable from market point of view.
Anyway, time will show the truth
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that's a shame, they see how successful the Android model is and then choose to do this?

i would like to see webOS on the HD2... from SD... 1+

tfouto said:
i would like to see webOS on the HD2... from SD... 1+
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+1
i have a Palm Pre...but the screen is to little for me...but the WebOS is awesome.!

WEBOS
Agreed, would love to see WebOS on the HD2 as well. I heard it is linux based like Android, which should make it easier to port.
But HP would be all over any developer who released it I think.

Darth_Fictional said:
Agreed, would love to see WebOS on the HD2 as well. I heard it is linux based like Android, which should make it easier to port.
But HP would be all over any developer who released it I think.
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Since webOS runs on the Linux kernel, it is open source. The source code must be released (and has been) per the GPL and anyone can port it if they want to, minus any proprietary apps and stuff I guess.

Cotulla said:
anyway my opinion that MEEGO future is unknown now.
Looks like Nokia plans to release first phone with X86 inside, it can means that ARM versions won't be developed at all (or won't be so cool, like X86)
As well I heard nokia plans to use own programs, which will replace MEEGO standard. It can result in bad quality of this internal programs, because all will use Nokia's own versions.
As well I don't think other manufactures will support MEEGO a lot - they have Android for choose, which is more preferable from market point of view.
Anyway, time will show the truth
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Well, Nokia is now siding with Windows Phone 7, which makes alot of sense from a buisness standpoint, but that leaves MeeGo is a strange situation. Nokia still have plans to release a MeeGo phone, but nothing seems clear after that. Theres no word if another phone manufacturer will pick it up for themselves. Right now MeeGo is in between a rock and a hard place.

t's laggy. Seems need some development but that video shows running Meego is possible on HD2

[Q] What are the steps to install Android on HTC Surround?

What are the steps pls?

Not possible yet.

it MUST be possible! Pleeeeeease, port Android on Surround :'(

Not possible, try Mango

Chinese developers are working on an Android port for HD7... the hardware between the two devices isn't very different
c'mon!! it WILL be possible, if only devs WOULD to do the os porting.
It's easy to say "that's impossible, buy a native android phone" or "try Mango.." etc
isn't this forum for developers? so, why don't they develop?
they simply don't want to do this, I suppose...... :\

no one work on it now

This was the most childish post I've ever seen. 1st you ask for something and then learn you can't have it so you whine.

it's Difficult.no one want to work it now!

Delux9364 said:
Chinese developers are working on an Android port for HD7... the hardware between the two devices isn't very different
c'mon!! it WILL be possible, if only devs WOULD to do the os porting.
It's easy to say "that's impossible, buy a native android phone" or "try Mango.." etc
isn't this forum for developers? so, why don't they develop?
they simply don't want to do this, I suppose...... :\
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I don't know about you but as a person who has written many apps for a few different Operating systems (e.g. Windows, OSX, Linux (Mono,Java), Andriod, Windows Mobile 6.X, and Windows Phone 7) I can tell you the its not hard to get the OS for it since it already exists. The real problem is making drivers for the specific hardware most of the drivers for old windows mobile devices running andriod were just pulled from other phones and modified. However it seems that its not as simple this time other wise we would have something that we would be able to use. I've seen the video from the Chinese forums and I have yet to see any other windows phone 7 devices run Andriod. So as a logical guess i would bet that, that video was a HTC Thunderbolt (or some other similar device) put inside of a Surround Case. Another thing about the video is that the device is extreamly smooth which seems outlandish unless there is a direct port of the drivers from another device. I doubt this as we probably would have a nand version of andriod already. Your right about the hardware being similar but do you see an Andriod port for the HD7? I took a quick glance and didn't see anything about it.
TLDR verion; HD7 is similar but no one has a working version for HD7. Other then Xda.cn and i think that, that video is of another phone in a surround case.

I would just buy an android phone, the Surround's battery is too small anyways.

The usual response, if you want an android device go and buy one.
jeje... I know ny comment do not sound polite but it's the truth.

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please people be positive about this its just like when the hd2 came out many said they couldn't and then devs did it and the negative ones dont say scrap so please let be positive we just need a dev to really try it will save many lives

quite impossible becuz of the hardware compatibility and the build structure of this phone. but who knows one day it can be done?