Hi all,
Just wondered if anyone know if it is possible to replace windows mobile completely with android on the HTC HD2 ?
I have read articles around the net with how you can from windows, run HaRet and it can boot into Android, but would be better if you could replace it completely.
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Does anyone know if possible ?
I can only imagine that would be incredibly difficult, atleast if you wanted Sense to run well ontop of it since it's adapted ontop of Windows Mobile. Maybe not, worth a shot I guess?
MrMagicMushroom said:
I can only imagine that would be incredibly difficult, atleast if you wanted Sense to run well ontop of it since it's adapted ontop of Windows Mobile. Maybe not, worth a shot I guess?
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Actually, Sense isn't the problem as there are now Android phones running Sense (obviously an Android version, not the Windows one).
There's an ongoing thread about getting Android to work on WM phones. I believe it runs, but about 50% of important stuff doesn't work, so it's not worth doing yet.
Search the forums - it's there somewhere.
RippieUK said:
Hi all,
Just wondered if anyone know if it is possible to replace windows mobile completely with android on the HTC HD2 ?
I have read articles around the net with how you can from windows, run HaRet and it can boot into Android, but would be better if you could replace it completely.
Link to arcticle
Does anyone know if possible ?
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People are already working on it.
However, it's a difficult task and most likely we'll have WM7 before Android works on the HD2 and nobody will care about Android anymore.
Or there will be better hardware running Android at the time they manage to make it run on the HD2.
johncmolyneux said:
Actually, Sense isn't the problem as there are now Android phones running Sense (obviously an Android version, not the Windows one).
There's an ongoing thread about getting Android to work on WM phones. I believe it runs, but about 50% of important stuff doesn't work, so it's not worth doing yet.
Search the forums - it's there somewhere.
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huch, did i miss smoething? android is already running on the leo?
it is not running yet, it comes with WM.
Hah, I went on youtube and pocketnow had this video up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvj4ObHmxCI
Interesting!
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I was wondering if it would be possible to flash an android rom onto the HD2. Or if space could posibly allow to have both WM6.5 and Android on the device and you can boot one or the other by means of choocing one during boot phase of the device.
DaveLeh said:
I was wondering if it would be possible to flash an android rom onto the HD2. Or if space could posibly allow to have both WM6.5 and Android on the device and you can boot one or the other by means of choocing one during boot phase of the device.
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the beta Android for Touch HD is getting slightly matured now, but still pretty unusable, other than that, it is very hard to tell if the Android can be cooked and become fully working with any WM phones now. But if someone can get Android working, this is gonna be really exciting!
the furtherest along is the polaris/vogue/kaiser port and that is still not at a working rom yet, getting close now but no rom yet, still using harret to boot it.
For me, getting Android working correctly is a much higher priority than being able to boot straight into Android - effectively, all the need to boot WM and use haret does is increase the boot time.
Anyway, I do hope that Android is ported to the HD2, but WM7 is a higher priority because I can already run Android on my Touch Diamond...
Thanks for the replies. I didn't know there already was a port and you could boot Android inside WM. Since I own a Polaris I tried that the last few hours and Android works like a charm. It's a pretty neet OS.
I think if HD2 becomes popular, there might be a port for HD2, too. So there is actually no real need for my idea of a dual boot launcher, since booting it from inside WM is functional, too.
I really wouldn't want to miss out on Windows Mobile, even when Android is pretty nice.
The HTC Dragon may be the phone to consider if you want Android on a HD2-like device. Looks pretty similar to the HD2 in terms of specs; 1GHz Snapdragon, capacitive touchscreen, all the rest, but a slightly rounded and more chin-like format. Looks to me like a cross between the HTC Hero and the HD2.
http://www.engadget.com/tag/dragon/
For the chef experts out there... If you had to put a percentage on the chance that someone will cook up an Adroid 2.0 ROM that will work seemlessly for the HD2, what would it be?
Also, might this news have any effect on it? http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/android-2-0-ported-to-original-t-mobile-g1-video/
i wanna know too
kingrichards said:
i wanna know too
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This thread has been dead for over 5 months! I've seen you in other android for HD2 threads... you already know that there is a linux/android port being worked on. The linux project thread is in the roms section. What is it you wanna know that's not already known?
Hi i already posted this on Android Community forum...but i think this must be more appropriate place...so does anybody has any info if it is possible to install the Android OS to a smartphone other than the one that comes with one?
Is it possible to lets say install the Android OS (Linux) to samsung hd i8910, that has symbian OS? Somehow change the firmware to the one with Android? What obstacles exist that this has not been done yet?
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Hi i already posted this on Android Community forum...but i think this must be more appropriate place...so does anybody has any info if it is possible to install the Android OS to a smartphone other than the one that comes with one?
Is it possible to lets say install the Android OS (Linux) to samsung hd i8910, that has symbian OS? Somehow change the firmware to the one with Android? What obstacles exist that this has not been done yet?
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one thing would be drivers.
is it possible to install Android OS on Acer E200 which comes with Windows Mobile 6.5? what are the tools to build the custom Rom?
Ok the drivers...that is major..is anyone doing something similar like writing the new drivers?
Takes a lot of time,knowledge and work to build drivers from scratch to different processors.Reasearch teams take months....
Even for qualcomm processors,because OS´s use it in a somewhat diferent way and is coded in the processor itself...thats what i understood for what i read...might be totally wrong i dont understand nothing about that.
Emulation is possible but it wont be the same...laggy,clutered,buggy,etc.
noaru said:
Ok the drivers...that is major..is anyone doing something similar like writing the new drivers?
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I would highly doubt it, but it's always possible.
noaru said:
Hi i already posted this on Android Community forum...but i think this must be more appropriate place...so does anybody has any info if it is possible to install the Android OS to a smartphone other than the one that comes with one?
Is it possible to lets say install the Android OS (Linux) to samsung hd i8910, that has symbian OS? Somehow change the firmware to the one with Android? What obstacles exist that this has not been done yet?
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Here on XDA, Android has successfully been ported to the HTC Vogue (HTC Touch). Progress is going along rapidly on the Raphael, Diamond, and Blackstone. I don't know about any ports to Symbian phones though, XDA is oriented more towards WinMo.
There might be ports going on to Symbian phones, but there probably won't be much information on any Symbian devices here.
But yes, it is possible to port Android to another smartphone, it just requires a LOT of elbow work.
EDIT: Found this forum, it might interest you. People talking about Android on the i8910 http://forums.samsungi8910omnia.com...-cooked-roms/6239-android-1-6-i8910hd-19.html
Well its always nice to hear, that there is somebody doing something..like you guys here on xda. In the case of i8910 it is the matter of the pure hardware..and type of phone..that is very high end..and cannot be compared with phones of HTC type...not yet..i guess the speed, the capacitive touch screen..processor..camera..only bad thing is sucky symbian..
hello.
i was wondering, since i'm going to get an htc Tattoo these days, and i saw some clips on YouTube: hd2 running android, hd mini running android, etc. is it posible to put WM on some android powered device...??
i know, iknow, android i so much better than the WM, but i would like to see WM running on, soon to be mine, HTC Tattoo...
Doubt it since the file system for Android is based of Linux.
then y not just buy a WM phone? y buy an android to have windows mobile?
i know where hes coming from i got hd2 and it runs android fine but i still want to keep WinMo but i want to run WinMo as a 2nd OS
WM!!!
That´s the wonder of WM
It is wonderful to be able to switch between OS!!
If in some moment I just thought about moving to Android with this dual boot I´m staying in WM all the way!!
evolutionqy7 said:
i know where hes coming from i got hd2 and it runs android fine but i still want to keep WinMo but i want to run WinMo as a 2nd OS
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thanks for understanding, that's just what i want... but it seems it can't be done... damn.
so, how's Android running on your HD2?? is it laggy or smtn? is it running properly, like on any other android device...?
fino1 said:
thanks for understanding, that's just what i want... but it seems it can't be done... damn.
so, how's Android running on your HD2?? is it laggy or smtn? is it running properly, like on any other android device...?
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It is actually pretty good and stable. Battery, without very heavy usage, can last you about a day (and I am sure that there are things that can be done to make it last longer). The other device(s) that run Android smoothly are the Vogue, the Kaiser, and the Polaris. Everything works, great battery life, and best of all... very cheap devices (you can get a Vogue for ~$80 on Market Place or eBay)
Now If only I didn't break my Kaiser by standing on it I would have installed android.
orb3000 said:
That´s the wonder of WM
It is wonderful to be able to switch between OS!!
If in some moment I just thought about moving to Android with this dual boot I´m staying in WM all the way!!
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it might be wonderful...but not with WM...definitely
and about the wonder of WM...the only wonder is that it can mysteriously and magically crash or get stuck and cause trouble and pain in the ass to the user hehe.
sorry orb but this is getting personal...you and me....we have to argue about this all the way hehe
cheers mate
@fino1: you won't miss anything without WM...trust me..i've been using it since wm 2002 and the android was a relief....although WM is far better,superior and more versatile than java os (mostly used os for mobile telephones) or symbian ,IMO
WM is pure function ...no user experience....in fact user experience is terrible and far outdated, and experience is what does or does not frustrate you
android is more about experience right now,but function isn't far behind,it is slowly catching outdated WM and getting some lead in that race...
first ive heard of this haha
Well.. tbh I second this request.. I believe in porting mutliple OS to 1 Device it just gains more functionality.. I believe it would be quite comfortable to use e.g. Android for browsing & websurfing.. and on the other hand use some neat WinMo Apps for dunno.. maybe some office work or something like that..?
Is anybody working on porting this to the HD2? Would be interesting to try it although I do like the Sense UI which WP7 wont have.
F4810 said:
Is anybody working on porting this to the HD2? Would be interesting to try it although I do like the Sense UI which WP7 wont have.
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USE THE SEARCH,BUDDY...
Anyway, there are someone working on this but no successful yet,everything still under developement...Go to forum section and find WINDOWS PHONE 7 FORUM...
everything you want to know is over there...But don't ask for any progress there, just read...
Cheers
sure, someone is working on it somewhere
From what I have heard not compatible,just get Android,its here..!!
hagba said:
From what I have heard not compatible,just get Android,its here..!!
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I knew nothing about Android until recently.
I was just curious to find out why so many like yourself were saying every where, "Android is better", "Get it" or you got Windows Mobile? That OS is terrible.
Well, I had to try it, and I put Android on my HD2.
You can see the version I am using on my signature.
It runs very well on my phone. And yes, Android is nice.
I have tried all the Android Ports. The one I am using now I think is the best.
But, I got to tell you:
My Windows Mobile Energy ROM in my signature is better than Android.
Windows is more polished.
I do not see Android as superior.
Energy Windows ROM with Cookie Home, all the latest HD2 Registry Tweaks, and the latest Sence 2018, plus the most recent HTC software updates from the new Oboe devise is amazing, fast and reliable. Android got nothing on it, except may be the live wallpapers.
After seeing the serious limitations that are coming with Windows Phone 7, I am not in the "I want to try it out" group and with recent news of AT&T being the exlusive partner = suck nads even more
it isn't looking likely at the moment (certainly not a fully featured port). This is the best post to monitor for progress:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685272
As an aside, some of the EVO based Android HD2 builds are very good. I dumped WiMo a while back
Never said Android was betterI was just hinting that from what I've read shouldn't be much different , however thanks for the feedback.
I'm a newbie at flashing HD2. I'd like to use both Android and WM7 before maybe choosing one of both. But I have several apps like a gps tool that work only on WM6.5. Therefore i'd like to keep WM6.5 also. Is there a way to multiboot these phone OSes? I have seen another one posting this question in January but no one has answered so far.
Also I didn't understand the required steps to set up either 6.5 or 7 as main os and dual boot (just in case multiboot is not necessary) and Android.
Can somebody synthetise the steps please? What do I need?
I know this is probably redundent with things already written but I didn't full understand what has to be done.
Thanks for any help,
Who
this is not yet possible as windows phone 7 and windows mobile both only work off nand and you cannot have to os on the nand memory
Ok...
Not cool. I have co-pilot live GPS system on 6.5 and some other stuff I bought. Is it worth it to change to WM7? How about synchronizing with outlook, active sync is replaced with zune. Is it ok?
who_am_i117 said:
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Not cool. I have co-pilot live GPS system on 6.5 and some other stuff I bought. Is it worth it to change to WM7? How about synchronizing with outlook, active sync is replaced with zune. Is it ok?
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I have to say im torn between the two but only on a couple of points
Wp hands down beats WM in just about everyway you can think of, i sure as hell wouldnt change it now that im used it, getting used to it is the key point there, it is different from WM, it does not pretent to be it, it does not pretend to be anything other than WP.
Outlook syncs fine if you use an exchange server or live service, i have one of each that syncs with my phone and i dont have issues at all.
However i do miss the little things of WM, namely that its a beast of an OS, it'll do almost anything you throw at it, i have some amazing WM programs that i really need so i have my old Touch HD running them now.
I would gladly pay money for someone to get WM running of an SD card, however i believe one of the differences of WM2003 and WM5 was that WM had to have persistant storage, (WM2003 devices used to effectively hardreset when you pulled the battery unless it had the backup battery) Essentially the OS was ran from RAM and this is where i think it might not be possible as WM5 cant be run from RAM, at least to my knowledge
Thanks a lot for your evaluation
For a while I was torn between Android and WP7. Until the very recent updatable Mango release (THANKS YUKI AND XBMOD!) the Android Nand install was a clear winner - no matter how many times I tried WP7, I missed my Gingerbread too much. Now with Mango I am finally throwing in the towel and installing Android on SD, just to end my suffering, hehe. WM6.5 wasn't even in the running, to be honest, I spend the past 8 years with various WM builds and just as many devices from 2003 onwards, still have my HTC Universal with WM6.5, but have no desire to use it at all on my HD2.
Mango is pretty sweet, smooth and visually lovely.
Ok with all this, for now i'll stick with WM6.5. Although WM7 is very attractive I have to much stuff depending on 6.5. Now I'd like to load Android on an SD so that I'll use most of the time Android and when needed, reboot to 6.5. But at the threads for Androids on SD I have difficulties finding the build that works best. Can someone point me to the most reliable threads or the place I can find the required, most stable stuff?
Thanks for all the help already given.
you can use co-pilot on an sd android build http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738128.
WP7+android+co-pilot
VojvodaMomcilo said:
need 10 stupid posts
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you realise there is a point of the ten post thing? partly so new inexperienced users dont post crap in the forums
dazza9075 said:
you realise there is a point of the ten post thing? partly so new inexperienced users dont post crap in the forums
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With my experience with forums that require a certain number of posts, it often leads to posts worst than crap! Senseless crap! I rather people post stupid questions rather than senseless crap. Just my opinion.
On topic: It'll be groundbreaking if anyone can accomplish getting WP7 and 6.5 booting on the same phone. Their status on XDA would become legendary! Last I heard DFT abandoned that notion. I sure wish they would have more transparency with their projects. Maybe somebody outside their team can give excellent ideas. Why limit yourself?
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How about a ban or two to go with your stupid posts?
I am not sure I would be keen on booting WP7 and WM6.5. Can't say I miss 6.5. Everything I needed I found in Android and navigation seems to be better as well. So even if it was available, I wouldn't bother.
And what Android and WM7 build/thread do you advice?
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Yeah and I need to use the stupid REPORT button, say goodbye to your posts.
who_am_i117 said:
Ok with all this, for now i'll stick with WM6.5. Although WM7 is very attractive
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Dude, there is no such thing as WM7.
Ok my misstake. I meant ofc WP7. Not WM7. But so far no one pointed me to a good stable and recent version of android. Any help here please? I looked at boxmax but that doesn't seem to work that well. Even with patches I still see graphical glitches. I also didn't find an option to either revert from the SD loaded andriod to WM6.5 but neither could I find a 'turn off' button so I could restart the phone in WM6.5. I had to remove the battery.
So thanks again to finding a good working Android for SD
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Yeah and I need to use the stupid REPORT button, say goodbye to your posts.
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Well donealthough I think he/she only posted them so that he/she could thank someone for sending an MS activation code. still no excuse.
who_am_i117 said:
So thanks again to finding a good working Android for SD
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Its in my sig below
I used Yuki's Gingerbread 2.3.4/5 2.8-3.0 Nand, so went with the same for SD install after the latest Mango 7220. I doubt any version that runs off SD will ever compare to Nand. The same Android that was flawless off Nand has proven to be a bit sluggish and somewhat less stable. Still, can't complain really - got the best of both worlds and my torment about what OS to use is no longer.
The only thing that would make it perfect would be non SD locking Mango with a simple menu within OS to alternate between the two.
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I used Yuki's Gingerbread 2.3.4/5 2.8-3.0 Nand, so went with the same for SD install after the latest Mango 7220. I doubt any version that runs off SD will ever compare to Nand. The same Android that was flawless off Nand has proven to be a bit sluggish and somewhat less stable. Still, can't complain really - got the best of both worlds and my torment about what OS to use is no longer.
The only thing that would make it perfect would be non SD locking Mango with a simple menu within OS to alternate between the two.
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YUKI's GONE OVER TO ANDROID???
I can't find it anywhere!
Are you sure