So, What are the possibilities of getting WebOs on our HD2s? just a question cuz i cant beleive how amazing our phone is...i mean WM7, WM6.5, Android, Ubuntu what else can it run??? hehehe
I would also love to see that happening but I think the chances are pretty slim, at least not anytime soon. The main obstacle is the different hardware (HD2 vs. Palm Pre) and then there is also the lack of interest. We live the Android fever now and WP7 is already at the door...
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the HD2 can run WebOS, but if i'm wrong i do not think that WOS is open source, so we can't try it.
It's not about open source or not, it's about hardware differences, lack of interest....like the poster said above.
WP7 is not open source.
i was thinking of this as well... But it very unlikely to happen since Drivers would need to be created for WOS, and like its been said Everybody is waiting on Android NAND and as well as WP7...
Maybe once this is all done then maybe if the right people see an interest in it then prob
I wonder why folks in palm and hp never thought of that,the main reason palm is dying is simply because of their ugly HW design.
Hd2 with palm os will be one of the killer hp
A Meego port will be more likely. Meego is an os being developed by nokia and intel. It will be designed to have multiple versions including netbook or handheld. It will be used on lots of different hardware. The devs who ported android have already mentioned meego as well.
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There have recently been some fake videos of maemo 5 running on the HTC HD2.
This operating system has a very much supportive community which develops apps and ports for the n900 similar to this one.
If these two communities could be bought together it would create an insane phone. I personally feel that having maemo on the HTC HD2 would make this phone deadly and rip other devices to pieces by giving users not only windows mobile 6.5 and android, but also extending the device to the beautiful maemo.
What do you think about this?
Would you like to see maemo on your HD2?
If there are any developers out there or people who know what they are doing could you please try to port this OS over as it would be greatly appreciated by many!
Thank you.
I think it might be possible after the developers have more time away from the Android efforts. Maemo is also Linux based, so it hopefully shouldn't be too difficult after they get Android working smoothly.
Just because it is possible doesn't mean it will happen it depends of the demand on this OS from the HD2 users i love this OS and think it would be awesome on the HD2 screen and hardware.
I am sure there are many HD2 users who would love to use this on there devcie.
I think there is no hardware similar to the HD2 running Maemo, this means no proper drivers to build a port.
cederron said:
I think there is no hardware similar to the HD2 running Maemo, this means no proper drivers to build a port.
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wrong...
as it is based on linux kernel the drivers from android should work...
Maemo would give the HD2 a new level of decisions for the owners, a new level of customisabillity. i wish i knew how and wish i had the knowledge to enable myself to do such a thing but cannot as i haven't.
Maemo WOULD beable to work on the HD2 with some effort put in by the right person.
If android can, android is linux, maemo can, maemo is linux.
But the question is will it?
I would love to see another option for the hd2. The more options the more people are attracted to the phone. More people should bring more development.
hazard99 said:
I would love to see another option for the hd2. The more options the more people are attracted to the phone. More people should bring more development.
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I completely agree with you.
If people had the option to choose the OS on a phone that could attract so many people to the phone. Because i know of many people who don't like windows, but would buy a windows phone if they could get more than one OS on it.
I would be like a master phone suited to everybody.
oh I wish to see this... i like Maemo very much, I had a N900 as second phone, it was amazing, maybe cooler than android, but what can I say... it didnt have a chance, too short life-time.
After we saw Ubuntu and Android on the Leo, When are we going to see Maemo or Meegoo on it?
Annashmi said:
After we saw Ubuntu and Android on the Leo, When are we going to see Maemo or Meegoo on it?
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bump!!! on this, i would like to see maemo too, and pissed off the n900 user
i think it's not so hard as we have ubuntu running very well
I agree with you
this thread should be moved onto the android/linux on hd2 thread.
And by the way, I totally side with you on this. I "hate" android. Why? It's by google, and it's not really linux. On the other side I'd love to have meego on my hd2, but think about it, not even nokia has released a single device with meego on it, and at this rate if they don't hurry when they will do that, noone will care about it anymore.
Even if I favour meego over android, like, a lot, I realistically cannot see how those who spent their blood in porting android to the hd2, and those others who develop for that platform, will invest their time and energy in another linux based mobile OS... if that OS keeps delaying itself.
I did not see news of this posted, but I'm not sure how credible the sources are because I cannot find HD2 info on the links posted, maybe you guys can understand this better.
http://www.techtree.com/India/News/HTC_HD2_gets_Android_NAND_ROM_MeeGo_11_Install/551-114013-580.html
http://blog.steventroughtonsmith.com/2010/12/meego-11-running-on-htcs-hd2.html
I didn't know it was possible to load Meego on the HD2 :O. Just got Android NAND, but I would like to see this on there as wel.
I watched the video how HD2 running Meego. It's laggy. Seems need some development but that video shows running Meego is possible on HD2. They's linux base anyway.
So, i will ask question in more general way:
Will i be able to test meego without deleting data of my current NAND Android?
matejdro said:
So, i will ask question in more general way:
Will i be able to test meego without deleting data of my current NAND Android?
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From what I can tell you might need windows mobile because it might need Haret to start. I am not certain though, its just a guess.
matejdro said:
So, i will ask question in more general way:
Will i be able to test meego without deleting data of my current NAND Android?
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Vampir1c said:
From what I can tell you might need windows mobile because it might need Haret to start. I am not certain though, its just a guess.
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Here is a post from the dude developing it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11174066&postcount=145
this means you can keep you Android NAND rom just fine
anyway my opinion that MEEGO future is unknown now.
Looks like Nokia plans to release first phone with X86 inside, it can means that ARM versions won't be developed at all (or won't be so cool, like X86)
As well I heard nokia plans to use own programs, which will replace MEEGO standard. It can result in bad quality of this internal programs, because all will use Nokia's own versions.
As well I don't think other manufactures will support MEEGO a lot - they have Android for choose, which is more preferable from market point of view.
Anyway, time will show the truth
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anyway my opinion that MEEGO future is unknown now.
Looks like Nokia plans to release first phone with X86 inside, it can means that ARM versions won't be developed at all (or won't be so cool, like X86)
As well I heard nokia plans to use own programs, which will replace MEEGO standard. It can result in bad quality of this internal programs, because all will use Nokia's own versions.
As well I don't think other manufactures will support MEEGO a lot - they have Android for choose, which is more preferable from market point of view.
Anyway, time will show the truth
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that's a shame, they see how successful the Android model is and then choose to do this?
i would like to see webOS on the HD2... from SD... 1+
tfouto said:
i would like to see webOS on the HD2... from SD... 1+
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+1
i have a Palm Pre...but the screen is to little for me...but the WebOS is awesome.!
WEBOS
Agreed, would love to see WebOS on the HD2 as well. I heard it is linux based like Android, which should make it easier to port.
But HP would be all over any developer who released it I think.
Darth_Fictional said:
Agreed, would love to see WebOS on the HD2 as well. I heard it is linux based like Android, which should make it easier to port.
But HP would be all over any developer who released it I think.
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Since webOS runs on the Linux kernel, it is open source. The source code must be released (and has been) per the GPL and anyone can port it if they want to, minus any proprietary apps and stuff I guess.
Cotulla said:
anyway my opinion that MEEGO future is unknown now.
Looks like Nokia plans to release first phone with X86 inside, it can means that ARM versions won't be developed at all (or won't be so cool, like X86)
As well I heard nokia plans to use own programs, which will replace MEEGO standard. It can result in bad quality of this internal programs, because all will use Nokia's own versions.
As well I don't think other manufactures will support MEEGO a lot - they have Android for choose, which is more preferable from market point of view.
Anyway, time will show the truth
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Well, Nokia is now siding with Windows Phone 7, which makes alot of sense from a buisness standpoint, but that leaves MeeGo is a strange situation. Nokia still have plans to release a MeeGo phone, but nothing seems clear after that. Theres no word if another phone manufacturer will pick it up for themselves. Right now MeeGo is in between a rock and a hard place.
t's laggy. Seems need some development but that video shows running Meego is possible on HD2
I'm interested in knowing why the Leo is capable of running multiple OS's, is it because of the hardware/software or that it has a hardworking community here in XDA?
mainly an open bootloader
hardware that is very simlar to other devices running diffferent operating systems
hard work of devs/hackers to get things ported
so basically it is both a combination of hardware and software
Thank you very much for anwering!
Richy99 said:
mainly an open bootloader
hardware that is very simlar to other devices running diffferent operating systems
hard work of devs/hackers to get things ported
so basically it is both a combination of hardware and software
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Because it was released just when Android was really starting to take off and because the device itself was ahead of its time as far as hardware goes.
Many devs/chefs got the device because of sheer power and then wanted to have the next big thing (Android) running on it.
The reason why its still going strong and has the biggest dev community on XDA is because the hardware still stands up today and there just isnt any big enough reason to move onto a new device yet.
In addition to the above mentioned, its original WM OS was not very popular after iphone has been released. Besides the biggest asset is that in addition to being ahead of its time, more than 3 million had been sold.
I would guess due to it being released with amazing hardware and an already outdated, perhaps dying OS. And since the bootloader is open and it uses a qualcomm chip, there was no need to upgrade to any other phone cause the HD2 could already run both Android and WP7
here is a similar thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042866
and here is a link to my reply in that thread, seeing as how the facts haven't really changed and the reasons for the HD2's "success" are still pretty much the same:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13069330&postcount=5
Kick ass devs!
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Kick ass devs!
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Amen to that...when people ask me similar questions I respond with the following illuminating equation that explains my personal love of the HD2:
Antipathy for iphone + (antipathy for Verizon / general satisfaction with TMO) X (killer h/w + killer s/w) + world class Devs + unmatched customizability + economical replacement cost = LEO IS KING!!!
If Meego is ported, what are the benefits over other OS choices?
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If Meego is ported, what are the benefits over other OS choices?
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Hi,
IMO nothing at all. The HD2 is, despite it's "old age", still the best device around, despite other devices with bigger screens - Amoled - other OS's etc. The HD2 remains the most versatile device around, cause it can run (almost) all of the existing OS's around. Orther devices are not capable of that.
regards, Kuzibri
Regarding WP, kinda helps that hd2 was used as a test bed for WP too and is the older brother of the NEAR identical hd7, it was luck more than anything, it came out at the right time in the WP development program
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So, any plans to bring WebOS to the HD2, now that it's opensource?
webOS is a good OS, but i hope devs will continue on meego first
What has WebOS got to do with Ubuntu?
What has WebOS got to do with Android or WM?)
WebOS isn't yet open-sourced, HP just said it will do that. No sources are available as of now, and it's silly to ask when it'll be ported to HD2 if we even don't know when sources will be available. But, it might me easier to port than meego, as meego's most interesting version (from nokia n9) is closed-source, and opensource meego is, according to devs, not much usable.
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What has WebOS got to do with Android or WM?)
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What has your question got to do with price of fish?
My question was in relation to him putting this topic in the Ubuntu section when it should have been the HD2 General section.
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WebOS isn't yet open-sourced, HP just said it will do that. No sources are available as of now, and it's silly to ask when it'll be ported to HD2 if we even don't know when sources will be available. But, it might me easier to port than meego, as meego's most interesting version (from nokia n9) is closed-source, and opensource meego is, according to devs, not much usable.
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Web OS is open source..
http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html
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Web OS is open source..
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This one looks like kernel (and possibly some other GPL-ed components) sources. And it is there probably since a long time. So no, WebOS isn't open source yet.
Sorry for posting the question here. I thought , as nobody really looks at the meego board anymore, I should ask it here as the guys'n'gals that are into porting Ubuntu to the HD2 are a little more hardcore and thus apt to give an honest perspective on whether or not this could happen. I read on the Verge that someone had it running on the Evo 3D so maybe it isn't that far fetched.
As I have understood some of the UI/UX stuff is not open source yet.
We shall come back to this discussion when it's time for that.
WebOS? I'm still waitng for further development of Ubuntu! Sound? Calls? Magldr?
Bumping for interest and the sake of prosperity for our mighty HD2...
Face it Meego is going nowhere slow, if anywhere at all... With the announcements of nokia going to wp. Ubuntu is making very small but slow baby steps...
So why not stir up a craze that'd baffle the internet media once again with the viral power of what the HD2 can do?
It's been ported to many other HTC devices so why not our HD2? We can't just let it die with millions of android and wp builds and lack of interest in other projects such as linux and meego, so I only see one other hurdle to jump that being WebOS.
Well, we'd have to find someone, who could port it... If I wasn't a total failure when it comes to programming and stuff, maybe I could do it :x
The difference between Android and other OSes is Android is popular and it's rather easy to cook a ROM... But here, we'd have to work from scratch. And nobody wants that. Shame on you, community, shame!
The only thing I see possibly coming next for the HD2 is WP8 (Maybe, if it's possible or at WP7.8) I rather hate WP and still love my huge variety of apps and customability with WM... I'm doing Win95 on it, Boxmax SD XDAndroid Sense and Ubuntu...
I don't see why or how it'd be so hard if so many other HTC's have it running already, get the closest build with matching spec's between the HTC HD2 and whatever HTC is remotely similar to our in hardware, edit it for Android maybe and change the drivers of the HTC (In question) to the HTC HD2 in code by similarity of Android builds for HD2. On a side note, I read that the HTC Evo 4G is the same phone as the HD2 on XDA, so if we could find a WebOS Build for that we'd be off to a good start. Then onto the debugging and next step is glory.
If I knew anything about coding and cooking I'd give it a whack, but I don't know much about it.
+1 on WebOS on the HD2...
I have it on the Touchpad and I love it!
TheATHEiST said:
What has WebOS got to do with Ubuntu?
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They are both Linux based operating systems...that's why
n1nj4Lo said:
Bumping for interest and the sake of prosperity for our mighty HD2...
Face it Meego is going nowhere slow, if anywhere at all... With the announcements of nokia going to wp. Ubuntu is making very small but slow baby steps...
So why not stir up a craze that'd baffle the internet media once again with the viral power of what the HD2 can do?
It's been ported to many other HTC devices so why not our HD2? We can't just let it die with millions of android and wp builds and lack of interest in other projects such as linux and meego, so I only see one other hurdle to jump that being WebOS.
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So why not stir up a craze that'd baffle the internet media once again with the viral power of what the HD2 can do?
but why do we even need a webOS?
its btr we try something like win 8 and do the impossible
tanush said:
but why do we even need a webOS?
its btr we try something like win 8 and do the impossible
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because webOS is opensource and Windows 8 is not..
tanush said:
but why do we even need a webOS?
its btr we try something like win 8 and do the impossible
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Windows 8 is Windows 7 and we did that already, we'd just be spinning our wheels or going backwards then instead of moving forward with bootable os'es.
If you want Windows 8 so bad on your HD2 hunt around for a 7.8 rom, closest you'll prolly get. Anyways you could get in a whole lot more trouble cooking an OS/Rom onto an unsupported phone that hasn't even been released yet to normal consumer users yet.
WebOS would be great those who aren't ready for Android or don't want it and those who don't like WP, but desire something other than WinMo 6.5.
WebOS is dead...
Still would love to see a new OS once in a while. +1 for WebOS, +1 for MeeGo, +1 for Firefox OS (or whatsisname)