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First off I apologize if this thread may turn out to be inappropriate for this section of the forum.
I know this isn't really Nexus One specific, but it is Android Development related.
I'm having a somewhat slow day today and was doing some reading about the N900 when I happed across an interesting blog about a dev who managed to get his N900 to dual boot Maemo and Android.
http://blog.broberts.com/nokia-n900-with-maemo-and-android-yes-please
Apparently, it appears to be at the stage where it's just a proof of concept, but I have to admit that this is awesome to say the least. Anyway, I just thought I'd mention it here, where cyanogen, modaco and the rest of xda's talented dev's might happen to read it, in hopes that it might spark additional developer interest.
why nexus one and others phone need multiboot?
like as winmo+android android+maemo
next thread say maemo ported to android
W3ber said:
why nexus one and others phone need multiboot?
like as winmo+android android+maemo
next thread say maemo ported to android
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I'm not sure if you misread my post. But this isn't about getting the Nexus one to dual Maemo and android, but to get android running on the N900. Not that Maemo isn't a great OS, I mean the N900 is a basically a fully operational computer/tablet, but the choice of apps on it is still limited. Regardless, the fact that it has flash and the fact that you can run practically anything from the browser does make up for it to some degree. Still, the N900 isn't really a consumer friendly device that others assumed it was going therefore getting android ported to the N900 hardware would be really sweet.
I don't think full on Maemo is open sourced but the parts that are I believe are released under a project called Mer. Since we've figured out how to boot debian. I don't think it would be much of a stretch to boot Mer.
Is it Maemo or MeeGo? Or are they both completely different projects?
So dual-boot is possible? I must of missed this stuff.. Would be cool to boot to a different OS
Does any one disagree with maemo being a more power os? I don't know why alot of people are not all over this.
I don't know muc about maemo, would definately like to dual boot with Debian or Ubuntu, though what those guys are doing in that debian thread is far beyond my capabilities.
stewart1988 said:
Is it Maemo or MeeGo? Or are they both completely different projects?
So dual-boot is possible? I must of missed this stuff.. Would be cool to boot to a different OS
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MeeGo is a new OS that Intel and Nokia are developing.
Maemo has been around for years already, Nokia is behind it, it's open source and a bunch of communities/companies contribute to it, including Mozilla. It
There have recently been some fake videos of maemo 5 running on the HTC HD2.
This operating system has a very much supportive community which develops apps and ports for the n900 similar to this one.
If these two communities could be bought together it would create an insane phone. I personally feel that having maemo on the HTC HD2 would make this phone deadly and rip other devices to pieces by giving users not only windows mobile 6.5 and android, but also extending the device to the beautiful maemo.
What do you think about this?
Would you like to see maemo on your HD2?
If there are any developers out there or people who know what they are doing could you please try to port this OS over as it would be greatly appreciated by many!
Thank you.
I think it might be possible after the developers have more time away from the Android efforts. Maemo is also Linux based, so it hopefully shouldn't be too difficult after they get Android working smoothly.
Just because it is possible doesn't mean it will happen it depends of the demand on this OS from the HD2 users i love this OS and think it would be awesome on the HD2 screen and hardware.
I am sure there are many HD2 users who would love to use this on there devcie.
I think there is no hardware similar to the HD2 running Maemo, this means no proper drivers to build a port.
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I think there is no hardware similar to the HD2 running Maemo, this means no proper drivers to build a port.
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wrong...
as it is based on linux kernel the drivers from android should work...
Maemo would give the HD2 a new level of decisions for the owners, a new level of customisabillity. i wish i knew how and wish i had the knowledge to enable myself to do such a thing but cannot as i haven't.
Maemo WOULD beable to work on the HD2 with some effort put in by the right person.
If android can, android is linux, maemo can, maemo is linux.
But the question is will it?
I would love to see another option for the hd2. The more options the more people are attracted to the phone. More people should bring more development.
hazard99 said:
I would love to see another option for the hd2. The more options the more people are attracted to the phone. More people should bring more development.
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I completely agree with you.
If people had the option to choose the OS on a phone that could attract so many people to the phone. Because i know of many people who don't like windows, but would buy a windows phone if they could get more than one OS on it.
I would be like a master phone suited to everybody.
oh I wish to see this... i like Maemo very much, I had a N900 as second phone, it was amazing, maybe cooler than android, but what can I say... it didnt have a chance, too short life-time.
just wondering are developers able to port meego to our lovely htc hd2 devices...since it's lighter,more stable and eye candy...I think this gonna replace the ubuntu...Ubuntu is more for desktop or laptop...however, meego is available to handheld more devices,like nokia n900 with ARM processor...finger crossed and wait our most respect developers to do it...I definitely will appreaciate and donate when that day came...the purpose of open this thread just to collect the ideas and thoughts of hd2 users...BTW we are Linux and android lovers as well....
Cheers...
LMAO
sylau90 said:
just wondering are developers able to port meego to our lovely htc hd2 devices...since it's lighter,more stable and eye candy...I think this gonna replace the ubuntu...Ubuntu is more for desktop or laptop...however, meego is available to more devices,like nokia n900 with ARM processor...is it possible to port meego?
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probably when they open a "HD2 Meego Development"... btw I think Meego anoying...
Close this too please.... PLEEEEAAASSSSEEEE....
caedanne said:
probably when they open a "HD2 Meego Development"... btw I think Meego anoying...
Close this too please.... PLEEEEAAASSSSEEEE....
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Why you think that meego is annoying?I think it is pretty nice and functional...furthermore,it is under develope now...no full version yet...
I don't see why not. Do you know anyone who wants to port Meego for the HD2, OP?
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Why you think that meego is annoying?I think it is pretty nice and functional...furthermore,it is under develope now...no full version yet...
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i see a couple of videos on youtube... buuuuhhhh
Is it possible to run meego on HD2 instead of ubuntu?
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Btw are you trying to say, to change the ubuntu for meego???! LOOOOL
Did you imagin have a laptop in your pocket? did you?
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probably when they open a "HD2 Meego Development"... btw I think Meego anoying...
Close this too please.... PLEEEEAAASSSSEEEE....
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Meego or maemo would be great on the HD2... there are a lot of people interested in this.... i don't know why you would have a problem with this being developed. It's actually more of a true linux distro than android is.
Anyways.... I know a while back that dcordes was talking about releasing a maemo or meego build when he got a chance to. I'm sure that he's a very busy man, so we'll probably have to be patient for this.... but hopefully at some point we will see a build from somebody.
port it by youself, if nobody interested.
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Meego or maemo would be great on the HD2... there are a lot of people interested in this.... i don't know why you would have a problem with this being developed. It's actually more of a true linux distro than android is.
Anyways.... I know a while back that dcordes was talking about releasing a maemo or meego build when he got a chance to. I'm sure that he's a very busy man, so we'll probably have to be patient for this.... but hopefully at some point we will see a build from somebody.
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zarathustrax said:
Meego or maemo would be great on the HD2... there are a lot of people interested in this.... i don't know why you would have a problem with this being developed. It's actually more of a true linux distro than android is.
Anyways.... I know a while back that dcordes was talking about releasing a maemo or meego build when he got a chance to. I'm sure that he's a very busy man, so we'll probably have to be patient for this.... but hopefully at some point we will see a build from somebody.
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Hi..yeah...happy to see some positive respond...and thanks for your information,i not even know that...
Meego on HD2 makes a lot more sense than ubuntu, though I do want ubunutu as well haha.
Meego really is starting to look fairly impressive, open source, a true linux distro and Intel/Nokia are really putting money into it. Would be awesome if we could run Winmo, ubuntu, android and meego. lol, I can dream right?
Having so many OSes and choices really makes the HD2 a badass phone, what other high end phone can do the same?
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Meego on our HD2's would be brilliant! IMO Not only a great alternative to Ubuntu but to Android aswell.
poweroutlet said:
Meego on HD2 makes a lot more sense than ubuntu, though I do want ubunutu as well haha.
Meego really is starting to look fairly impressive, open source, a true linux distro and Intel/Nokia are really putting money into it. Would be awesome if we could run Winmo, ubuntu, android and meego. lol, I can dream right?
Having so many OSes and choices really makes the HD2 a badass phone, what other high end phone can do the same?
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Haha,and maybe windows phone 7...
HDee2 said:
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Meego on our HD2's would be brilliant! IMO Not only a great alternative to Ubuntu but to Android aswell.
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Great...thats true...
maemo against android? dude thats a real black humour...
meego will be a half product like maemo is, nothing more. theyre developing meego for coffe machines, ATMs and refrigerators!
bbezja1 said:
maemo against android? dude thats a real black humour...
meego will be a half product like maemo is, nothing more. theyre developing meego for coffe machines, ATMs and refrigerators!
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Complete nonsense. Meego is the main OS for all of nokia's nextgen line of high end smartphone. It is also the target OS for all of the upcoming Intel cpu based smartphones. There is a reason why there is so much investment in meego from Intel and Nokia.
Here is an old pre-alpha video of the tablet version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqeeQd-YNL0
You have to admit it looks fairly impressive, and its just a pre-alpha video.
The linux foundation also announced that meego would become the prime OS to fuel in vehicle entertainment for companies such as BMW, GM, etc.
Meego is no ATM or vending machine OS. It has lots of support and momentum behind it and I'm quite sure it will be a major upcoming mobile OS.
poweroutlet said:
Meego on HD2 makes a lot more sense than ubuntu, though I do want ubunutu as well haha.
Meego really is starting to look fairly impressive, open source, a true linux distro and Intel/Nokia are really putting money into it. Would be awesome if we could run Winmo, ubuntu, android and meego. lol, I can dream right?
Having so many OSes and choices really makes the HD2 a badass phone, what other high end phone can do the same?
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this is true... HD2 the best...
But this forum is to talk about ANDROID in HD2...
I think this thread should be moved to here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=532
I'd love to see Meego as well and I really hope the smart devs on XDA will find the time and resources to port it on the HD2 as well.
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this is true... HD2 the best...
But this forum is to talk about ANDROID in HD2...
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Indeed.
Anyway, just to make it clear, im not hating on android by any means. I absolutely love android, awesome OS. But having Meego as well would be very interesting.
Can never have too many OSes right?
the main devs siad they would make a version.
but that was before a lot works.
i thinks it isn't hard FOR CORTULLA.
ask him
I did not see news of this posted, but I'm not sure how credible the sources are because I cannot find HD2 info on the links posted, maybe you guys can understand this better.
http://www.techtree.com/India/News/HTC_HD2_gets_Android_NAND_ROM_MeeGo_11_Install/551-114013-580.html
http://blog.steventroughtonsmith.com/2010/12/meego-11-running-on-htcs-hd2.html
I didn't know it was possible to load Meego on the HD2 :O. Just got Android NAND, but I would like to see this on there as wel.
I watched the video how HD2 running Meego. It's laggy. Seems need some development but that video shows running Meego is possible on HD2. They's linux base anyway.
So, i will ask question in more general way:
Will i be able to test meego without deleting data of my current NAND Android?
matejdro said:
So, i will ask question in more general way:
Will i be able to test meego without deleting data of my current NAND Android?
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From what I can tell you might need windows mobile because it might need Haret to start. I am not certain though, its just a guess.
matejdro said:
So, i will ask question in more general way:
Will i be able to test meego without deleting data of my current NAND Android?
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Vampir1c said:
From what I can tell you might need windows mobile because it might need Haret to start. I am not certain though, its just a guess.
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Here is a post from the dude developing it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11174066&postcount=145
this means you can keep you Android NAND rom just fine
anyway my opinion that MEEGO future is unknown now.
Looks like Nokia plans to release first phone with X86 inside, it can means that ARM versions won't be developed at all (or won't be so cool, like X86)
As well I heard nokia plans to use own programs, which will replace MEEGO standard. It can result in bad quality of this internal programs, because all will use Nokia's own versions.
As well I don't think other manufactures will support MEEGO a lot - they have Android for choose, which is more preferable from market point of view.
Anyway, time will show the truth
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anyway my opinion that MEEGO future is unknown now.
Looks like Nokia plans to release first phone with X86 inside, it can means that ARM versions won't be developed at all (or won't be so cool, like X86)
As well I heard nokia plans to use own programs, which will replace MEEGO standard. It can result in bad quality of this internal programs, because all will use Nokia's own versions.
As well I don't think other manufactures will support MEEGO a lot - they have Android for choose, which is more preferable from market point of view.
Anyway, time will show the truth
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that's a shame, they see how successful the Android model is and then choose to do this?
i would like to see webOS on the HD2... from SD... 1+
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i would like to see webOS on the HD2... from SD... 1+
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+1
i have a Palm Pre...but the screen is to little for me...but the WebOS is awesome.!
WEBOS
Agreed, would love to see WebOS on the HD2 as well. I heard it is linux based like Android, which should make it easier to port.
But HP would be all over any developer who released it I think.
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Agreed, would love to see WebOS on the HD2 as well. I heard it is linux based like Android, which should make it easier to port.
But HP would be all over any developer who released it I think.
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Since webOS runs on the Linux kernel, it is open source. The source code must be released (and has been) per the GPL and anyone can port it if they want to, minus any proprietary apps and stuff I guess.
Cotulla said:
anyway my opinion that MEEGO future is unknown now.
Looks like Nokia plans to release first phone with X86 inside, it can means that ARM versions won't be developed at all (or won't be so cool, like X86)
As well I heard nokia plans to use own programs, which will replace MEEGO standard. It can result in bad quality of this internal programs, because all will use Nokia's own versions.
As well I don't think other manufactures will support MEEGO a lot - they have Android for choose, which is more preferable from market point of view.
Anyway, time will show the truth
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Well, Nokia is now siding with Windows Phone 7, which makes alot of sense from a buisness standpoint, but that leaves MeeGo is a strange situation. Nokia still have plans to release a MeeGo phone, but nothing seems clear after that. Theres no word if another phone manufacturer will pick it up for themselves. Right now MeeGo is in between a rock and a hard place.
t's laggy. Seems need some development but that video shows running Meego is possible on HD2
So, any plans to bring WebOS to the HD2, now that it's opensource?
webOS is a good OS, but i hope devs will continue on meego first
What has WebOS got to do with Ubuntu?
What has WebOS got to do with Android or WM?)
WebOS isn't yet open-sourced, HP just said it will do that. No sources are available as of now, and it's silly to ask when it'll be ported to HD2 if we even don't know when sources will be available. But, it might me easier to port than meego, as meego's most interesting version (from nokia n9) is closed-source, and opensource meego is, according to devs, not much usable.
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What has WebOS got to do with Android or WM?)
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What has your question got to do with price of fish?
My question was in relation to him putting this topic in the Ubuntu section when it should have been the HD2 General section.
sado1 said:
WebOS isn't yet open-sourced, HP just said it will do that. No sources are available as of now, and it's silly to ask when it'll be ported to HD2 if we even don't know when sources will be available. But, it might me easier to port than meego, as meego's most interesting version (from nokia n9) is closed-source, and opensource meego is, according to devs, not much usable.
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Web OS is open source..
http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html
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Web OS is open source..
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This one looks like kernel (and possibly some other GPL-ed components) sources. And it is there probably since a long time. So no, WebOS isn't open source yet.
Sorry for posting the question here. I thought , as nobody really looks at the meego board anymore, I should ask it here as the guys'n'gals that are into porting Ubuntu to the HD2 are a little more hardcore and thus apt to give an honest perspective on whether or not this could happen. I read on the Verge that someone had it running on the Evo 3D so maybe it isn't that far fetched.
As I have understood some of the UI/UX stuff is not open source yet.
We shall come back to this discussion when it's time for that.
WebOS? I'm still waitng for further development of Ubuntu! Sound? Calls? Magldr?
Bumping for interest and the sake of prosperity for our mighty HD2...
Face it Meego is going nowhere slow, if anywhere at all... With the announcements of nokia going to wp. Ubuntu is making very small but slow baby steps...
So why not stir up a craze that'd baffle the internet media once again with the viral power of what the HD2 can do?
It's been ported to many other HTC devices so why not our HD2? We can't just let it die with millions of android and wp builds and lack of interest in other projects such as linux and meego, so I only see one other hurdle to jump that being WebOS.
Well, we'd have to find someone, who could port it... If I wasn't a total failure when it comes to programming and stuff, maybe I could do it :x
The difference between Android and other OSes is Android is popular and it's rather easy to cook a ROM... But here, we'd have to work from scratch. And nobody wants that. Shame on you, community, shame!
The only thing I see possibly coming next for the HD2 is WP8 (Maybe, if it's possible or at WP7.8) I rather hate WP and still love my huge variety of apps and customability with WM... I'm doing Win95 on it, Boxmax SD XDAndroid Sense and Ubuntu...
I don't see why or how it'd be so hard if so many other HTC's have it running already, get the closest build with matching spec's between the HTC HD2 and whatever HTC is remotely similar to our in hardware, edit it for Android maybe and change the drivers of the HTC (In question) to the HTC HD2 in code by similarity of Android builds for HD2. On a side note, I read that the HTC Evo 4G is the same phone as the HD2 on XDA, so if we could find a WebOS Build for that we'd be off to a good start. Then onto the debugging and next step is glory.
If I knew anything about coding and cooking I'd give it a whack, but I don't know much about it.
+1 on WebOS on the HD2...
I have it on the Touchpad and I love it!
TheATHEiST said:
What has WebOS got to do with Ubuntu?
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They are both Linux based operating systems...that's why
n1nj4Lo said:
Bumping for interest and the sake of prosperity for our mighty HD2...
Face it Meego is going nowhere slow, if anywhere at all... With the announcements of nokia going to wp. Ubuntu is making very small but slow baby steps...
So why not stir up a craze that'd baffle the internet media once again with the viral power of what the HD2 can do?
It's been ported to many other HTC devices so why not our HD2? We can't just let it die with millions of android and wp builds and lack of interest in other projects such as linux and meego, so I only see one other hurdle to jump that being WebOS.
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So why not stir up a craze that'd baffle the internet media once again with the viral power of what the HD2 can do?
but why do we even need a webOS?
its btr we try something like win 8 and do the impossible
tanush said:
but why do we even need a webOS?
its btr we try something like win 8 and do the impossible
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because webOS is opensource and Windows 8 is not..
tanush said:
but why do we even need a webOS?
its btr we try something like win 8 and do the impossible
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Windows 8 is Windows 7 and we did that already, we'd just be spinning our wheels or going backwards then instead of moving forward with bootable os'es.
If you want Windows 8 so bad on your HD2 hunt around for a 7.8 rom, closest you'll prolly get. Anyways you could get in a whole lot more trouble cooking an OS/Rom onto an unsupported phone that hasn't even been released yet to normal consumer users yet.
WebOS would be great those who aren't ready for Android or don't want it and those who don't like WP, but desire something other than WinMo 6.5.
WebOS is dead...
Still would love to see a new OS once in a while. +1 for WebOS, +1 for MeeGo, +1 for Firefox OS (or whatsisname)