my wife got a call from sprint last week telling her she had 10 days to reduce her usage or they would cancel her line...she was rooted and using wireless tether...not installed from the market....she uses mp3 rocket on her pc to download music, streams movies via netflix and various other outlets...thats it for her...it was all over 3G data connection...i called sprint to find out wat the deal was and they straight told me the sites and protocols she used...they also told me that yes data is unlimited unless u use it to stream or download things...had them push me up to higher dept manager and i complained that the 3G speed was so slow, .5 dl, and they told me that is perfectly normal and fine, you dont need anything faster to web browse...i am still furious over this...i had her unroot her phone so we wouldnt be canceled...i am still in shock that this happened...they said she was using over 5Gb a month for 3 consecutive months...
Her problem is sharing the connection. I have used over 10 gig a month with netflix, hbo go. But I don't share the connection.one month I used almost 20 gigs.
It could be the fact that shes using a P2P software to download music. MP3 Rocket is very similar to Limewire.
I'm not going to go into a whole thing here, but I think that you could stand to take a step back and look at this situation objectively. Do you think it's reasonable to be doing P2P over 3G with an unpaid for wireless tether and not expect any flack from Sprint over it?
Hell, I don't really appreciate it as another Sprint user. Do your P2P at home, please.
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I'm not going to go into a whole thing here, but I think that you could stand to take a step back and look at this situation objectively. Do you think it's reasonable to be doing P2P over 3G with an unpaid for wireless tether and not expect any flack from Sprint over it?
Hell, I don't really appreciate it as another Sprint user. Do your P2P at home, please.
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Agreed.
The amount of usage isn't the concern here.
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my wife got a call from sprint last week telling her she had 10 days to reduce her usage or they would cancel her line...she was rooted and using wireless tether...not installed from the market....she uses mp3 rocket on her pc to download music, streams movies via netflix and various other outlets...thats it for her...it was all over 3G data connection...i called sprint to find out wat the deal was and they straight told me the sites and protocols she used...they also told me that yes data is unlimited unless u use it to stream or download things...had them push me up to higher dept manager and i complained that the 3G speed was so slow, .5 dl, and they told me that is perfectly normal and fine, you dont need anything faster to web browse...i am still furious over this...i had her unroot her phone so we wouldnt be canceled...i am still in shock that this happened...they said she was using over 5Gb a month for 3 consecutive months...
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Wait. You are furious because Sprint wants to cancel when you are illegaly tethering?
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I'm not going to go into a whole thing here, but I think that you could stand to take a step back and look at this situation objectively. Do you think it's reasonable to be doing P2P over 3G with an unpaid for wireless tether and not expect any flack from Sprint over it?
Hell, I don't really appreciate it as another Sprint user. Do your P2P at home, please.
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Couldn't have said it better.
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why she using her phone to download music?
why not download to your PC and then transfer the files to your phone?
I have never gone over 3Gigz myself....one month i had 4.5GB's
maybe you need to teach her how to use her phone and keep herself under 5GB?
Haha, you came on here to ***** about Sprint and now everyones *****ing at you #fail
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i am still furious over this...i had her unroot her phone so we wouldnt be canceled...i am still in shock that this happened...they said she was using over 5Gb a month for 3 consecutive months...
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Unfortunately, it's users like your wife that are accelerating Sprint's justification in supporting some people within Sprint for the need to switch from going from an unlimited data plan to a tiered data plan, like the other carriers. Because of that, I don't think you're going to get much sympathy on this board.
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I'm not going to go into a whole thing here, but I think that you could stand to take a step back and look at this situation objectively. Do you think it's reasonable to be doing P2P over 3G with an unpaid for wireless tether and not expect any flack from Sprint over it?
Hell, I don't really appreciate it as another Sprint user. Do your P2P at home, please.
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ahhhhh...........gone todash..............
There's a lot more to this story.
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I agree. Why wouldn't they just tell her that she would have to pay for hotspot?
so if you use 5gb or more of data for 3 consecutive months sprint will boot you?
Was she roaming?
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I agree. Why wouldn't they just tell her that she would have to pay for hotspot?
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If you owned a store and found out someone was stealing for over three months, would you just tell them to pay next time?
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There's a lot more to this story.
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Notice he is silent.
Smells like some stale copypasta.
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iwin2000 said:
so if you use 5gb or more of data for 3 consecutive months sprint will boot you?
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They can boot you if you use 300mb of roaming data over 3 months. That much I know.
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They can boot you if you use 300mb of roaming data over 3 months. That much I know.
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And Sprint should because they have to pay Verizon (or whatever company's tower it is) for the overage.
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Which wireless tether will work on a rooted glacier? Is thee a way to patch the stock one to work with out the added fee?
Scott Xavier- mind hacker
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
I'm using 2.0.5-pre13 off this list and it works flawlessly, but I imagine any 2.0.2 or 2.0.5 would work.
Im using 2.05 pre 11. Works great.
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http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
I'm using 2.0.5-pre13 off this list and it works flawlessly, but I imagine any 2.0.2 or 2.0.5 would work.
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When did they decide to start charging with the built in tethering? Is there going to be some sort of notification if you use it?
I don't think they are actually doing anything specif as far as charging or disabling the stock setup. They have stated that they will be monitoring data usage (don't know if they could tell the difference between tethering and device only connections).
Therefore, if you are running up the gigabytes through tethering (or bit torrent downloads, etc.), they may take action (I would guess like limiting your connection to 2G).
I am still using my stock tethering, and will be watching my TMo statements carefully.
I normally hit about 8-10gb a month since I use it as my primary internet. I don't p2p, but I do watch Hulu which uses up a whole lot of data. I've been warned via text that I've used more than my share, but I was only throttled down for a day. It was terrible. I was running a speed test and it was consistently under 100kbps the entire day.
I've been using stock tethering.
Tmobile tech super states that when you start tethering, it won't work you have to cal then up and activate it on your account. the app uses a server port that is monitored and blocked.
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Tmobile tech super states that when you start tethering, it won't work you have to cal then up and activate it on your account. the app uses a server port that is monitored and blocked.
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If that is the case, then using a generic Google tethering app with a different port could fix it.
However, mine worked fine yesterday with the stock app, and have not been able to try it today yet.
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I normally hit about 8-10gb a month since I use it as my primary internet. I don't p2p, but I do watch Hulu which uses up a whole lot of data. I've been warned via text that I've used more than my share, but I was only throttled down for a day. It was terrible. I was running a speed test and it was consistently under 100kbps the entire day.
I've been using stock tethering.
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holy bandwidth abuse batman...8-10gb a month is ridiculous.
When I went into the store to buy my HD2 on launch day, the rep and I were talking about tethering. He said he did it on his Cliq when he needed to and at the time I used to use it on my MT3G when I needed it.
He showed me a photocopy of a bill that someone brought in complaining about...Tmobile finally got tired of this dbag abusing the privilege and charged him .20 per mb for everything over 5gb...the bill was like $1100.00. Even back in March, he told me that they would be tightening up on data usage and tethering because of the HDPA+ rolling out. T-Mobile is not into the business of supplying people with dirt cheap home internet.
He looked at my past and current usage and said I was totally safe. I stream Pandora/Slacker for 8 hours a day 5 days a week...tether occasionally if im on the road or at a hotel that does not offer free wifi...and moderately browse the internet just like everyone else. I have only managed to hit 3gb usage in a single month once...and that was on vacation in Cali when my wife was using my connection to upload vacation photos to facebook.
I know it may impact a few honest people...but I think T-Mobile should charge every customer who exceeds the 5gb cap...maybe people like you could give the rest of us a price break on our plans
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..not true, it work with unlocked phone with at&t so it does not go thru any server of such.
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I know it may impact a few honest people...but I think T-Mobile should charge every customer who exceeds the 5gb cap...maybe people like you could give the rest of us a price break on our plans
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Um...throughout much of 2009, I was going through 3-4gb per month on my G1...with no tethering and no torrent action.
I hope to move on to the myTouch 4G now that I'm out of contract, but suspect I'll probably break the 5gb mark often when running on that speed...maybe not by much, but it'll happen. If they think I need to be throttled (who are they? the TSA?!) and want to charge me extra for my *normal* mobile usage, consistent with my two previous years' use then I may, sadly, have to use WiFi more often...
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Um...throughout much of 2009, I was going through 3-4gb per month on my G1...with no tethering and no torrent action.
I hope to move on to the myTouch 4G now that I'm out of contract, but suspect I'll probably break the 5gb mark often when running on that speed...maybe not by much, but it'll happen. If they think I need to be throttled (who are they? the TSA?!) and want to charge me extra for my *normal* mobile usage, consistent with my two previous years' use then I may, sadly, have to use WiFi more often...
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I have never come close to touching 5gb...and I use what I think is a lot of data.
...I would bet I use a lot a home, but I do pull some torrents and lots of netflix, hulu, and PS3 content.
As I said in my previous post...I constantly stream music, at least 8 hours a day. I tether for I would say 2-3 hours a week (casual web browsing), and use the hell out of the phones browser and other data services such as Ustream (live podcasts and such)
Here is a screenshot of my current data usage for this month (only two days to go on this cycle)
Same here not even close
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I have never come close to touching 5gb...and I use what I think is a lot of data.
...I would bet I use a lot a home, but I do pull some torrents and lots of netflix, hulu, and PS3 content.
As I said in my previous post...I constantly stream music, at least 8 hours a day. I tether for I would say 2-3 hours a week (casual web browsing), and use the hell out of the phones browser and other data services such as Ustream (live podcasts and such)
Here is a screenshot of my current data usage for this month (only two days to go on this cycle)
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Why not use the stock one? They aren't doing anything to prevent us from using it
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Which wireless tether will work on a rooted glacier? Is thee a way to patch the stock one to work with out the added fee?
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Well, I use my tethering for Hulu, Youtube, browsing, and chatting. On occasion I'd download a ROM update. Since I do that pretty much daily, I'm sure that's why I ring up such high GB usage. It's probably mostly Hulu. I've been throttled down, but as I mentioned before it lasts about a day after getting the text.
Here's what I got for this month:
I've had tmo for about 9 years, they have never throttled me once... I don't go over 5gb every month, but easily more than half the year. I use it for school work on my laptop, stream slacker and Pandora, stream from my server at home, navigation.
Basically I use it all I want, never worry about anything, and tmo treats me fairly, that's why I'm still with them after all this time.
That's with WiFi use at home
The only reason i use WiFi at home is for the speed bump, my mt4g gets 16mbps down 16mpbs up on my WiFi
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I've been using tmo for ages too. Last month was the first time I got the text warning me for going over 5GB. I was around 9GB's when it was sent to me. This current billing cycle is the first time I was throttled down.
I'm going to cut out streaming video and see how my usage is next month.
I accepted the OTA but still have full root with s-off, superuser, and recovery.
But today I went to tether with 3G and a message popped up saying I have to add tethering to my plan or whatever... It didn't do this with Froyo... I was able to tether just fine. I very rarely tether because I have an at&t laptop card but once in a great while it doesn't connect so I use my evo.
And before y'all get on me about it, I know you're supposed to pay for tethering.
Thanks in advance
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lmao. wow. okay, little fact. USE WIFI TETHER 3.1-BETA1 IT IS GREAT! BETTER THAN THIS CRAP VERSION IN OUR PHONE! search for it on google. or I think the website is something like http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com you'll have to download it to your phone and install it manually. NOT IN THE MARKET! make sure old one is not installed. lolz you're good to go once installed. btw. WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR TETHERING! SPRINT AND OTHER COMPANIES DOING THIS NEED TO STOP SCREWING WITH US! I HAVE A RIGHT TO USE THE FREAKING BANDWIDTH I PAY FOR! just don't abuse the bandwidth. lol.
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lmao. wow. okay, little fact. USE WIFI TETHER 3.1-BETA1 IT IS GREAT! BETTER THAN THIS CRAP VERSION IN OUR PHONE! search for it on google. or I think the website is something like http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com you'll have to download it to your phone and install it manually. NOT IN THE MARKET! make sure old one is not installed. lolz you're good to go once installed. btw. WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR TETHERING! SPRINT AND OTHER COMPANIES DOING THIS NEED TO STOP SCREWING WITH US! I HAVE A RIGHT TO USE THE FREAKING BANDWIDTH I PAY FOR! just don't abuse the bandwidth. lol.
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You pay for unlimited mobile to mobile minutes, if there was a hack to tether your voice service to another mobile phone would that be okay too?
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Award Tour said:
You pay for unlimited mobile to mobile minutes, if there was a hack to tether your voice service to another mobile phone would that be okay too?
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Absolutely (in my opinion). Carrier's / ISP's need to abandon this "plan = device" mentality and get with the times. The reality is, what consumers want and expect is "plan = person".
Netflix has done very well by abandoning the old mentality. "I" pay for a plan and "I" can access that plan from any device at any time. If they followed the old model my Netflix streaming account would only work on one device... and I'd bet their growth would have been halved or worse with that strategy.
Market forces will push them where consumers want to go, whether they like it or not. That's exactly what "tethering" is doing: driving the market.
So does anyone know if there's a way to use the stock tethering with rooted gb?
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runcool said:
lmao. wow. okay, little fact. USE WIFI TETHER 3.1-BETA1 IT IS GREAT! BETTER THAN THIS CRAP VERSION IN OUR PHONE! search for it on google. or I think the website is something like http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com you'll have to download it to your phone and install it manually. NOT IN THE MARKET! make sure old one is not installed. lolz you're good to go once installed. btw. WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR TETHERING! SPRINT AND OTHER COMPANIES DOING THIS NEED TO STOP SCREWING WITH US! I HAVE A RIGHT TO USE THE FREAKING BANDWIDTH I PAY FOR! just don't abuse the bandwidth. lol.
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So if I update my phone to the newest operating system can I use 3.1beta to wifi tether still? I used some app to root so I can use "wireless tether", but I'm thinking if I update I'll lose that like I did the last time I updated.
Ok nevermind, It's for rooted only phones, If I update I won't be rooted anymore.
josh995 said:
I accepted the OTA but still have full root with s-off.
But today I went to tether with 3G and a message popped up saying I have to add tethering to my plan or whatever... It didn't do this with Froyo... I was able to tether just fine. I very rarely tether because I have an at&t laptop card but once in a great while it doesn't connect so I use my evo.
And before y'all get on me about it, I know you're supposed to pay for tethering.
Thanks in advance
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Being s-off does not mean you are rooted. If you are running the stock ota then you do not have superuser permissions. There are plenty of topics which will solve your problems on these forums. Good luck.
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Award Tour,
I don't get your logic..even with tethering...it still is mobile to mobile..the medium to use is just is different. Does not using Bluetooth device to talk on the phone constitute using voice a external device also count? We don't have to pay a Bluetooth fee now do we. What is then different for using tablet or other device for accessing? This has nothing to do with hacking to another line..or phone for that matter
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Award Tour,
I don't get your logic..even with tethering...it still is mobile to mobile..the medium to use is just is different. Does not using Bluetooth device to talk on the phone constitute using voice a external device also count? We don't have to pay a Bluetooth fee now do we. What is then different for using tablet or other device for accessing? This has nothing to do with hacking to another line..or phone for that matter
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Your argument is dumb. A Bluetooth headpiece is a extension/accessory of the same device.
Contractually you're only allowed to have data on one device. Anything more requires a tethering plan. From my perspective its also wrong to tether because cellular data is a finite resource. Sprint's data network is already in a obvious state of over capacity, having multiple devices sucking down data, with the secondary+ (laptop/desktop/even tablets) using more data because of it's default use case, without contributing resources ($) is not a good thing for either Sprint or all other users.
Sprint is living a dream right now. Unlimited data will eventually go, and when it does and the data caps do come, then I'd support free tethering. If you pay for an allocation of 2-5gb of data on their network then I feel that you can use it however you want. For now though I side with Sprint.
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And before y'all get on me about it, I know you're supposed to pay for tethering.
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That was the worst excuse I've read all morning.
"Yeah, yeah. Listen, Officer. Before you get on me about it, I know you're supposed to pay for televisions. Now, are you going to help me load this into my pick-up or what?"
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Being s-off does not mean you are rooted. If you are running the stock ota then you do not have superuser permissions. There are plenty of topics which will solve your problems on these forums. Good luck.
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I do have superuser permissions, and amon ra recovery. Able to flash roms. Etc... I am 100% rooted with the stock OTA ROM. That's why I'm confused as to why tethering won't work.
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That was the worst excuse I've read all morning.
"Yeah, yeah. Listen, Officer. Before you get on me about it, I know you're supposed to pay for televisions. Now, are you going to help me load this into my pick-up or what?"
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Actually no. It's more like me stealing a pack of gum, considering I tether literally like 25mb a month with sprint.
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This thread is going places............
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This thread is going places............
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many places just not in the intended direction
I was with you until you said you would tether if you paid for an allocation ( 2-5gb).
That makes no sense, because if you don't breach your contract when you are paying for "unlimited data" why the heck would you when you have limits? Makes no sense to me, is one or the other, can't have it both way specially when it makes no sense at all, atleast to me.
Is like, imagine a restaurant gives you unlimited refills and they bring it on this "shot glass" but since its unlimited you want to Exchange it for a bigger cup, they tell you that's 5 bucks extra to do that, and you are fine with it, you won't wait till they are not looking to snatch the bigger cup for free.
But then if the policy changes to where you can only refill that shot glass three to five times, and not unlimited times, and still get the bigger cup for 5 bucks, then you will be alright taking the risk of getting cough by snatching the bigger cup? See how that makes no sense? Taking the risk for a smaller reward.
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josh995 said:
Actually no. It's more like me stealing a pack of gum, considering I tether literally like 25mb a month with sprint.
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In the last 50 years, corporate taxes have been going down as a percentage of government revenue while individual taxes have provided a larger and larger share of the Government tax base. The top 1% of income earners (meaning CEOs and the like) own 34% of the country's wealth while the bottom 80% own just 15%. Corporations spend hundreds of millions of dollars a year to lobby (aka: bribe) congress to promote their own selfish corporate interests, and the Supreme Court just granted them the right to spend unlimited funds promoting their chosen presidential candidate. They relocate their coporate offices to a post-office box in the Cayman islands to avoid U.S. Taxes. Copyright laws have been extended numerous times by corporate owned legislators to prevent cultural cash cows from entering the public domain where people could enjoy them free of charge. We have a tax code that is tailored to corporate interests at the expense of ordinary citizens. Firms like Walmart aggressively fight unionization efforts (yaaaay capitalism when it suits us) in their stores and through state legislatures all while bribing their bought-and-paid-for legislators to institute price-caps on credit and charge card companies (yaaaay Socialism when it suits us). Between 2000 and 2008, Wall Street and the banks operated what was essentially a massive pump and dump operation that left millions of Americans owing tens of thousands of dollars more on their homes than the homes were worth, and nearly sunk the economy in the process, while Wall Street titans and banking CEOs walked away with billions upon billions of dollars in profits. Not one of the top corprate scam artists has seen a day of jail time, but instead have been the beneficiaries of billions of dollars in bonuses. Hedge fund managers pay a tax rate of just 15% on tens and sometimes hundreds of millions of dollars they make through managing other people's money (they keep their tax rates low by buying off legislators). When the oil company BP nearly destroyed the economy of the Gulf States through an accident caused by reckless drilling practices, we had politicians describing a meager $20 billion repayment fund as government "extortion" while apologizing to the company for the unfair way it was being treated by the government.
In this context anyone who loses a day of sleep because they're rooting their phone and getting free wireless tethering out of the deal needs to just take a bus to New York City and personally lick Donald Trump's brown eye clean the next time he takes a dump.
The next time you have an opportinuty to screw a giant corporation you shouldn't ask yourself "is it right or wrong" you should ask yourself "how likely am I to get caught, and can I deal with the consequences if I do."
These sorts of questions of right and wrong make sense in a Democracy. In a plutocracy (which is what we've become over the last 50 years) they are at best quaint, and at worst naive.
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I do have superuser permissions, and amon ra recovery. Able to flash roms. Etc... I am 100% rooted with the stock OTA ROM. That's why I'm confused as to why tethering won't work.
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You are extremely dense. Having superuser permissions doesn't magically allow you to tether with the stock tethering app. You need to do more than root a stock rom for it to work. Figure it out yourself.
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I was with you until you said you would tether if you paid for an allocation ( 2-5gb).
That makes no sense, because if you don't breach your contract when you are paying for "unlimited data" why the heck would you when you have limits? Makes no sense to me, is one or the other, can't have it both way specially when it makes no sense at all, atleast to me.
Is like, imagine a restaurant gives you unlimited refills and they bring it on this "shot glass" but since its unlimited you want to Exchange it for a bigger cup, they tell you that's 5 bucks extra to do that, and you are fine with it, you won't wait till they are not looking to snatch the bigger cup for free.
But then if the policy changes to where you can only refill that shot glass three to five times, and not unlimited times, and still get the bigger cup for 5 bucks, then you will be alright taking the risk of getting cough by snatching the bigger cup? See how that makes no sense? Taking the risk for a smaller reward.
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Your argument/example is both dumb and confusing.
Situation unlimited: you pay for unlimited soda refills, cheating would mean filling the cups of other people with your unlimited refills. I wouldn't support this at all.
Situation limited: you pay for 1 gallon worth of soda, you *should* be able to use it however the hell you want.
That said, I wouldn't recommend breaching a contract under any circumstances. I just want to point out that I'd make an argument for it. Like how the OP somehow feels he should be entitled to tether Sprint's unlimited for free, I think you should be entitled to use a data allocation anyway you want.
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I do have superuser permissions, and amon ra recovery. Able to flash roms. Etc... I am 100% rooted with the stock OTA ROM. That's why I'm confused as to why tethering won't work.
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Unlocking a car doesn't make it go.
The "stock" OTA rom doesn't have root, but if you flashed superuser, or actually flashed the rooted version of the OTA then yes, you are rooted. But you're still running a stock ROM, which means you don't have a free tethering solution built in. You now have the ability to add one, whether it's the wireless tether from the market, a hacked version of the Sprint tether, or a different ROM that has the Android built-in tethering restored. Until you do one of those, you're just running the ROM Sprint released, and they certainly didn't give you any tools in that ROM to allow you to tether for free.
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You pay for unlimited mobile to mobile minutes, if there was a hack to tether your voice service to another mobile phone would that be okay too?
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So you think we should pay for using bluetooth earpiece when making a call?
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Getting rid of the "premier customer", returns go from 30 to 14 days, upgrade moves from 22 to 20 months BUT upgrade fee goes from 18 to 36..... all these changes are probly because of the new iphone too.... f*ck sprint and the rest of em.
phandroid.com/2011/09/15/sprint-mak...ram-cuts-back-returnexchange-policy-and-more/
that was announced a month ago lol
its for whoever doesnt know.
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Agreed! F**k Sprint!
go away why did u have to bump this thread just to say that.
and obviously u didnt even read this thread because at no point was anyone bashing sprint witch means this was an epic fail for you.
Bierce22 said:
go away why did u have to bump this thread just to say that.
and obviously u didnt even read this thread because at no point was anyone bashing sprint witch means this was an epic fail for you.
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Check again Bierce:
The op said the same thing the Guy b4 u did....."F-sprint" so he did read the thread.
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i like sprint (for now), dont get me wrong. but they are slowly hiking prices and axing services. they just got rid of unlimited 4g hotspot.... i think its only a matter of time before unlimited data is a thing of the past.
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i like sprint (for now), dont get me wrong. but they are slowly hiking prices and axing services. they just got rid of unlimited 4g hotspot.... i think its only a matter of time before unlimited data is a thing of the past.
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I'm not too sure about that. Mainly because every commercial i see for them is the
"We are sprint, we are truly unlimited" IMHO that's the only thing sprint has going for them, until the new iPhone comes out.
Sprint is still better than the alternatives though. Good customer service, awesome phones, etc. Everyone else has already done all this junk and gone to tiered plans so I'm happy that Sprint has kept their service as is for so long
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rubyknight said:
Sprint is still better than the alternatives though. Good customer service, awesome phones, etc. Everyone else has already done all this junk and gone to tiered plans so I'm happy that Sprint has kept their service as is for so long
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I agree, if you find a better service at Sprint's prices, let me know, I'll be upgrading soon.
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i like sprint (for now), dont get me wrong. but they are slowly hiking prices and axing services. they just got rid of unlimited 4g hotspot.... i think its only a matter of time before unlimited data is a thing of the past.
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Is there really anyone that uses unlimited hotspot? I can't honestly imagine someone just tethering their laptop, gaming device, ect with their phone ALL day. The only thing that bothers me with the premier loss is return policy.
It is bs. I signed up for unlimited. I should get unlimited. If I spend anymore I might as well just get internet in my house instead of phone. What is this power trip all the carrier's seem to be on? The power to giveth, the power to take away? The power to cancel my service is what they'll get. I don't understand why sprint would make a move for the iphone and sacrifice the biggest advantage that no other carrier provides. That in my mind would be the gold mine and I would squat on it. Unless they are all acting together to gain greater profit from the consumer because they are all not happy with the percentages, it makes no sense. It does make sense however that they would all drop like dominos to the power of apple. After all, they have as much money saved up as our entire government. Tell me that isn't f'd up. Tell me a company like that can't do whatever they want and manipulate the system. I'm sure if we new everything we would pull out our guns to stop it. Die for it. But, who will ever know. Our worst enemy will be loved like family due to secrets and manipulation as we all suffer unrecognized poverty and enslavement. But, we are many.... and the day will come.
Alright, I woke up this morning to a email from AT&T saying I'm in the 5% this month.
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This is the data that I have used.
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Is anybody else getting these emails at such a low amount of data use?
It's pretty stupid to say that you're at the 5% when you're only at 5 gigabytes, last month I used 20 gigabytes and didn't get anything.
Also please don't respond if you're just going to say "you can start using wifi." Well I can't, because this is my only way online where I live.
I just hit 8GB when i received the email.
Yeah, they also sent me a text about an hour ago saying,
" AT&T Free Msg: Your data usage this month is in the top 5% of users. Use Wi-Fi to help avoid reduced speeds in future bill cycles. Visit www .att. com/dataplans. "
This is kinda pissing me off now.
There ought to be some sort of audit on this.. I doubt 5g is in the top 5%
AdamOutler said:
There ought to be some sort of audit on this.. I doubt 5g is in the top 5%
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Apparently, anything over 4GB puts you into that category now. Two of my friends who have AT&T got that message and only use around 3-4GB a month.
Way to go AT&T, control your customers and take away their freedoms and what they pay for.
dang 4gbs? what do yall do on a phone to acheive that?
I get to 4gb when streaming video (wink)
At&t does this to try lessen the stress on their network.
They also use this as a scare tactic when users use "free" online services...
At&t should have at least said "Anybody over 2gb, will be throttled."
I highly doubt they even looked at how much data gets used per month before putting this into effect, it's like they just tossed out anything over 2gb as the 5%.
2Gb Warning
I got the message this morning and checked my data usage and it was 2.1GB
I used 13.2GB last bill and I never got the msg.
dang how do people reach so much data use?
I don't know, but The guy I know who works for the big red thinks I used alot of data.
donsh00tmesanta said:
dang how do people reach so much data use?
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Pandora, netflix, downloads, etc.
It's not hard to go over 2gb in a day... or even a few hours, without tethering.
After years of using AT&T I have never once had data throttled while averaging about 5 GB a months for the past year. still waiting for AT&T to say something because its like that on both my line and my wife's line where we use a combined 10GB a month.
I got the message this morning at 2.1Gb. Funny thing is, my download speeds have actually gotten better. I used to average 2-3Mbps down, 1-1.5 up, but after 3 speed tests, I'm running 4.5-5.5 down, .75 up. Throttle my upload speed all they want, I really don't care. But I'm definitely loving this new download speed. I don't know if this has anything to do with the Cingular 410 APN I'm using on my Galaxy Nexus.
Still, I find it ridiculous that AT&T is allowed to implement this kind of system without a means of releasing their tracking methods. Using the "top 5%" is such a asinine method of choosing who to throttle. IF they went ahead and just told grandfathered customers they would throttle past a particular GB, akin to what t-mobile is doing, it would make a lot more sense. Now, we have users stating they have reached anywhere from 2-13 gigs saying they have been placed in the "top 5%". I'm filing a complaint with the BBB petitioning AT&T to give us more information on how they distinguish who is in the top 5% of data consumption and to give us a better way of tracking our data usage compared to the others placed in the top 5%.
I've gotten the message for the past couple of months. They now say they will throttle at 5gb. Either we need to come up with a work around like tmo guys did on cm7 or I'm switching to sprint. Been with them for yrs now and I used 10 to 25 gb on my old dumb phone razr.
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boborone said:
or I'm switching to sprint. Been with them for yrs now and I used 10 to 25 gb on my old dumb phone razr.
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thats not even possible on that phone lol
and btw good luck with sprint.
enjoy the 75-200kb/s downloads
which is what im getting on the crappiest network, lots of dropped calls etc
im looking at verizon or tmo right now
PC Jona said:
thats not even possible on that phone lol
and btw good luck with sprint.
enjoy the 75-200kb/s downloads
which is what im getting on the crappiest network, lots of dropped calls etc
im looking at verizon or tmo right now
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Yes it is possible. Why you say no? I do at least 150+ on my phone now. Always used lots of data, always will.
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boborone said:
Yes it is possible. Why you say no? I do at least 150+ on my phone now. Always used lots of data, always will.
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And because of this we will always be throttled lol. Like that's just excessive in my opinion
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MWilkenson said:
And because of this we will always be throttled lol. Like that's just excessive in my opinion
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I haven't had cable or internet for about 4 yrs now. My phone is my source for tv, movies, news, games, ect.
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Been with them for 12years and had the same number. Trying to move to another carrier. It sucks because they only gave me till next week to port my number or I LOSE IT. Looks like I'm going to get a rinky dink phone until I can get a upgrade. Going to miss my Evo This number is on everything so I must do it. My business will suffer if I don't get this number.
I was up in arms but I am a firm believer in karma and I did tether and got caught so WTF am I going to do. In the letter it said you are "using it as a modem and tethering with out a tethering plan".
Just wanted to ask, can they really tell, or is it just data usage they are going by.
do you mind me asking what ROM and what tethering app you were using?
Sorry man, that totally blows. How much data did you blow through? I remember people getting letters after going through a few hundred Gigs a month.
Been tethering my EVO's for a couple years. First my EVO 4g with my laptop, now my "retired" 4g with my EVO 3d. I watch netflix and surf the web on my 4g. No problems yet. So...just how much data have you been using?
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alaman68 said:
do you mind me asking what ROM and what tethering app you were using?
Sorry man, that totally blows. How much data did you blow through? I remember people getting letters after going through a few hundred Gigs a month.
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I'm using Derp 3d and I'm using wireless tether for root. In March I used 109gb and in April I used like 102gb. I use Hulu plus and I think thats the's reason. I've been doing it for 2 years with netflix, my pc and video games but just got hulu 3 months ago, and now this. SMH.
Most users don't use that much on a cable/dsl connection, let alone wireless.
I'd agree with sprint, that is excessive.
Just get the cheapest prepaid setup you can find until you figure out where you're going to move to.
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I'm using Derp 3d and I'm using wireless tether for root. In March I used 109gb and in April I used like 102gb. I use Hulu plus and I think thats the's reason. I've been doing it for 2 years with netflix, my pc and video games but just got hulu 3 months ago, and now this. SMH.
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Yea, that sucks. You were terminated more for the excessive data use than for tethering. Everyone who I know of who had their contracts cancelled for tethering were also using large amounts of data. They likely would have got you even if you were paying for it, as were many of them. They just used the tethering excuse to try and make an example.
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"can they tell?" interesting question... Did you use HTC DEV to root your phone and can Sprint track downloaded apps (wireless tether) from the market? They could probably track those and put 2 and 2 together.
your data usage is very high and noticeable.
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I'm using Derp 3d and I'm using wireless tether for root. In March I used 109gb and in April I used like 102gb. I use Hulu plus and I think thats the's reason. I've been doing it for 2 years with netflix, my pc and video games but just got hulu 3 months ago, and now this. SMH.
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That is why you got cancelled. Is that all 4g data? Because if it is 3G, even at 1MB, it would take you 12 days of constant downloading to get to 109GB of data.
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"can they tell?" interesting question... Did you use HTC DEV to root your phone and can Sprint track downloaded apps (wireless tether) from the market? They could probably track those and put 2 and 2 together.
your data usage is very high and noticeable.
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I used unrevoked when it was first available, and I didn't download it off the market. I agree it was excessive. Probably why I'm not too upset more concerned with my number I guess.
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That is why you got cancelled. Is that all 4g data? Because if it is 3G, even at 1MB, it would take you 12 days of constant downloading to get to 109GB of data.
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gpz1100 said:
Most users don't use that much on a cable/dsl connection, let alone wireless.
I'd agree with sprint, that is excessive.
Just get the cheapest prepaid setup you can find until you figure out where you're going to move to.
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That's what I'm planning to do thanks. Just found out I can port my number to prepaid then to another carrier. Someone just gave me a net10 phone. Funny compared to my Evo but got to do what I got to do for now. I was just about to get the 4g lte too, but was waiting for it to be rooted LMAO!!
Wish I had 4G
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why not use boost and flash evo to b able to use on there?
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I'm using Derp 3d and I'm using wireless tether for root. In March I used 109gb and in April I used like 102gb. I use Hulu plus and I think thats the's reason. I've been doing it for 2 years with netflix, my pc and video games but just got hulu 3 months ago, and now this. SMH.
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As said above that is really excessive so most likely it's not more of a They found out but more of a Using Way to much data and so they cut off your data.. Now as how they found out.. Most likely they assumed that its basically impossible to use that much data on a Phone no matter how hard you try.. But most likely it's labeled "illegal tethering" For the fact that if you have unlimited data then they have no real reason to cancel your contract other than for illegal tethering if you don't have tethering on your contract.
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Wish I had 4G
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Meeeee Toooooo!
Wow, I hope you didn't come here looking for sympathy. That's ab-so-****ingly-lutely excessive. And we wonder why we can't have nice things! lol
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If I can figure out from your few posts here that your real name is EDITED TO PROTECT PRIVACY and you're from EDITED AGAIN TO PROTECT PRIVACY, I don't see why sprint couldn't figure out that you're tethering. Thing is, I tether too, but I keep my usage below 5 Gigs a month, so no red flags are never raised, hence no investigations.
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why not use boost and flash evo to b able to use on there?
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Didn't know I could do that, thanks!
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Wow, I hope you didn't come here looking for sympathy. That's ab-so-****ingly-lutely excessive. And we wonder why we can't have nice things! lol
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Not looking for a shoulder to cry on just was wondering.
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If I can figure out from your few posts here that your real name is bad idea and you're fromxxxxxxxxx, I don't see why sprint couldn't figure out that you're tethering. Thing is, I tether too, but I keep my usage below 5 Gigs a month, so no red flags are never raised, hence no investigations.
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And what does any of that **** have to do with if they can see me tethering or not. Ain't like I'm posting **** on Facebook....hey I'm tethering on my evo illegally. Like dude said above I think it's just the data issue but they can't say that, because I have unlimited data.
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I'm using Derp 3d and I'm using wireless tether for root. In March I used 109gb and in April I used like 102gb. I use Hulu plus and I think thats the's reason. I've been doing it for 2 years with netflix, my pc and video games but just got hulu 3 months ago, and now this. SMH.
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Damn!!! They probably think your hosting a porn website!
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Didn't know I could do that, thanks!
Not looking for a shoulder to cry on just was wondering.
And what does any of that **** have to do with if they can see me tethering or not. Ain't like I'm posting **** on Facebook....hey I'm tethering on my evo illegally. Like dude said above I think it's just the data issue but they can't say that, because I have unlimited data.
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Unlimited Data is not "Unlimited Everything"
According to your Sprint terms and conditions, you have unlimited email, pictures, internet surfing and messaging, as well as NON-CONTINUOUS streaming of videos, downloading, and online gaming.
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Damn!!! They probably think your hosting a porn website!
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LMAO I know.
To Tell the truth it's illegal and I did it, not much I can say or am going to say. My girlfriend is a lawyer and asked if I wanted to go that route. No because I feel stupid trying to fight something I did although I get free legal service it seems like a waste of time.
Am I pissed I got no more free internet....hell yeah LOL what do you think. I'm not rich but not hurting for money either, so in hind sight it seems not worth it lol. I guess with Hulu wither I paid for the hotspot service or not it wouldn't have made much of a difference. Tommorrow I'm getting 4g unlimited internet from clear which is probably what I should have done in the first place.
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Damn!!! They probably think your hosting a porn website!
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Lmao everytime man.