Hi, how long do you think it will take to get a stableish or just usable for a daily driver cm8 (Ice cream sandwich) nightly for our galaxy s2 after ICS is released. I am holding off flashing and rooting until there is an ICS rom, as I don't want to wait like 6 months for Samsung to update. Thanks
Maybe you should hold off on stupid questions till CM7 is stable on SGS2.
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Maybe you should hold off on stupid questions till CM7 is stable on SGS2.
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It's not stupid at all, it's a fair enough question to ask, as a lot of people on this forum know what they are talking about , and will have some idea of how long it could take to develop a just usable rom. I wan't asking for a spesific time, I was wonder would it be with in 2 or 6 months to develop the rom. People could base the time on how long it has taken for cm7 to be ported and how long it took for cm7 and other roms to be ported to other device. But, seen as how I had a desire before this and got it after the stable cm7 was out, I don't know how long it takes to port roms, therefore it is a valid question to ask. Also instead of making annoying remarks, if you have nothing productive to say, do me a favor and zip it. If you didn't like the question they you should have just ignored it. But thanks for your reply
mods can we please ban the OP, and close this useless topic
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To the OP:
To put it nicer than most are on here so far...
There are just too many variables. No one knows when ICS will be out to start with, and no one knows what could happen after they start working on it.
Remoteconcern said:
To the OP:
To put it nicer than most are on here so far...
There are just too many variables. No one knows when ICS will be out to start with, and no one knows what could happen after they start working on it.
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Thanks very much for your answer
Remoteconcern said:
To the OP:
To put it nicer than most are on here so far...
There are just too many variables. No one knows when ICS will be out to start with, and no one knows what could happen after they start working on it.
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Thanks,I was curious about this myself
You should know that the first rule of Cyanogenmod is never ask for an ETA.
Rumour has it that Google want ICS to be simultaneously released for all major devices i.e. every top end phone around the same time, so no fragmentation. I would guess that there will be an official SGS2 ICS rom before AOSP is released, or shortly after.
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android 2.3 sdks have already been ported to quite a few number of devices. I understand they aren't fully functional yet but still they have it. Was just wondering if anybody here thinks that it's time that we started porting them to DHD as well.
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irteza_h said:
android 2.3 sdks have already been ported to quite a few number of devices. I understand they aren't fully functional yet but still they have it. Was just wondering if anybody here thinks that it's time that we started porting them to DHD as well.
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No, SDK ports tend not to run very well, wait until the source code drops and the dev's get there teeth into it. TBH there doesn't appear to be that much revolutionary stuff in 2.3 that we can't wait for
wait until HTC give us a release date. if they say its gonna be ages then someone will port it, but otherwise i think i'l wait for the official version.
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wait until HTC give us a release date. if they say its gonna be ages then someone will port it, but otherwise i think i'l wait for the official version.
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ya i guess i will wait too ... was just getting excited by this ..see the froyo gave us a huge performance boost ... well then gingerbread should be much better..but i like sticking to roms as closest to the stock rom as possible so am gonna wait too..
Before I get to my point I want to thank all the devs for there hard work that they do in their spare time. They do it for free and hope that some of us donate to make it a little more worth their while.
Maybe it's just me or does it seem like the development thread is slowing down. I've noticed lately that most of the stuff coming in now is ports from other phones and updates for past builds. Theres not alot of new stuff rolling out. EDT seems to stay busy, but what happend to TW? I would have put money on having a stable 2.3 rom out by now to use as a daily driver. We also lost Eugene and leaked samsung builds seem to not be coming out as often.
Is our phone entering the twilight years? Are the dev's losing interest and working on other phones. I've played around with some of the new phones like the atrix and thunderbolt and i'm sure they could be a lil more interesting to build for.
I hope i'm wrong and 5 min. after I post this a new 2.3 rom comes out. It was fun when you flashed a new trigger rom and 1 day later the new bionix came out. This is a really nice phone and you have to really try hard to brick it. It's almost like Samsung designed it to be modded. Hopefully the devs can get inspired again or some new blood comes in to give us something new.
I think we need to be patient. One day there will be a leak for gb and things will fire up again.
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just relax man every phone goes through spells of development. I see you only joined in april so just wait, Whitehawkx had a mostly working gb port working minus the gps and we have CM7 and MIUI support now as well.
Be patient this phone is amazing and im certain development will continue for it for some time.
In the mean time flash a miui beta or try out the EDT roms you wont be disappointed.
Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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u guys keep us coming back for more every day and i thank you for that! great job on all this.
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Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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Yes, but point being is that we're pretty much at the mercy of Samsung & T-Mobile to release a 2.3.
We will not have a kernel source to play with until it releases for I9K, and even then we'll have issues for a while. And we won't have one with rockin' battery life until we get a leak or source.
But yeah, there really isn't much developing coming from anyone except the guys working on kernels & people like Whitehawk, sonique, and of course Untermench who actaully modify the code. Because there's not much else to do.
Things are winding down. There are only a handful of people around who have the knowledge and inclination to roll their own ROMs.
As newer devices with more capabilities are introduced (the dual core LG G2X will be in T-mobile stores April 20th), then the older ones lose favor.
That is how it is with Android. Your 8 month old phone becomes old. After 15 months its an antique!
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Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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I actually have tried to develop a theme to post here but there is so much involved with all the editing and i simply don't have the time. I really wish I did. Trust me I have a great respect for what the dev's do once I started playing around with just a theme. I can only imagine what a rom would take. Plus I can honestly say i'm not skilled enough to put out a quality rom any time soon, if ever. I'm really not complaining about effort or quantity from the devs, i've just noticed lately there seems to be a dull in the dev section. I was just wondering why.
Eugene is back. He said on twitter that he bought a Vibrant. You can see evidence, his newest Ginger Clone version has already had 4 updates.
Sure a lot of the development is for 2.2 and 2.2.1 roms, but I'd say we're easily WAY more active than we used to be. We've now got plenty of choices of roms, kernels, and themes. We've also got new people joining the Vibe development scene. There's an experimental Gingerbread Sense that's just started testing. We are now officially supported by the MIUI team. I see new things happening every day. Development doesn't always happen overnight, but I believe we've still got lots of good things look forward to.
Slowing down? I still remember when there was only one rom in the dev section. Now there's a new one each week, and at least one update every day.
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Things are winding down. There are only a handful of people around who have the knowledge and inclination to roll their own ROMs.
As newer devices with more capabilities are introduced (the dual core LG G2X will be in T-mobile stores April 20th), then the older ones lose favor.
That is how it is with Android. Your 8 month old phone becomes old. After 15 months its an antique!
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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Slowing down? I still remember when there was only one rom in the dev section. Now there's a new one each week, and at least one update every day.
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Haha yeah I remember that too. But ROMs every week != good. Most of them are ports and aren't stable.
I really wish we could have AOSP roms so we could have TRUE development going on. None of this hack and patch stuff.
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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They want CM lol (as do I)
Why do we keep having these threads. I rooted my phone late last year. I have been more then satisfied. I'm just glad to have a faster better phone than what I had originally. Just have some damn patience.
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Keep in mind the psychology at work here. Most of the people who get all angsty about this are rom comsumers, and not active dev's, themers, or kangers.
It appears that what we are experiencing now is a lot of cross development, taking existing roms from the international i9000 and porting them to our universe thanks to the availability of kernel source for 2.2. So the nature of activity has changed, but the scope has actually expanded.
This phone (thanks to dev work here @ XDA) stopped sucking ass A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Gains to be had at this point are largely cosmetic, so there is the appearance that improvements are not coming at the rate they used to. The fact of the matter is that quantitative improvements are largely unnecessary at this point.
As a "consumer" myself (I gave up on linux development a long time ago, owing to my own inherent laziness) I find the current state of affairs quite amazing. Your mileage may vary. YMMV.
What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Keep in mind the psychology at work here. Most of the people who get all angsty about this are rom comsumers, and not active dev's, themers, or kangers.
It appears that what we are experiencing now is a lot of cross development, taking existing roms from the international i9000 and porting them to our universe thanks to the availability of kernel source for 2.2. So the nature of activity has changed, but the scope has actually expanded.
This phone (thanks to dev work here @ XDA) stopped sucking ass A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Gains to be had at this point are largely cosmetic, so there is the appearance that improvements are not coming at the rate they used to. The fact of the matter is that quantitative improvements are largely unnecessary at this point.
As a "consumer" myself (I gave up on linux development a long time ago, owing to my own inherent laziness) I find the current state of affairs quite amazing. Your mileage may vary. YMMV.
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Well said. It's just like what happened when I had the N1, people started to complain because the roms were so stable there weren't many updates being released.
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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i dont know either...
2.3 probably WILL be faster than 2.2 (duh) but besides the speed, we have everything else.
All thats going to be different is when you go into settings about it will say 2.3 gingerbread
instead of 2.2 or 2.2.1
the rest is good.
im on miui, and i switch between cm7 and miui once in a while
im never going back to 2.2.1
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What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Very true. People want updates, but they don't know why.
If its not being updated as fast as it used to, chances are it doesn't even really NEED updating.
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What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Well said. Someone just asked on one of my 2.2.1 threads why it was so quiet and my only thought was because everything works. Here it is everything has been fixed there should be nothing left to discuss here flash and enjoy.
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Very true. People want updates, but they don't know why.
If its not being updated as fast as it used to, chances are it doesn't even really NEED updating.
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That's the point for me. I stopped updating at KA6. Sure KA7 came out not long after, but why? I had been updating daily/weekly until then, always fighting some bug or flaw. With KA6, I flashed the ODIN version, removed bloatware myself, added the round battery icon, power off menu, and that was *it*. More recently I've updated the Kernel to Overstock 2.x and voodoo FS, but I'm not even sure why I need voodoo. Can't tell a difference in the real speed of the phone.
I didn't take the phone apart to add FFC like so many did (and who also never use it in most cases), so I don't need improved support for that... and themes, well... I guess there is that, not much going on in KA6 themes -- but that doesn't affect the use of the phone at all.
KA6 for me has been fast, stable, and by far the best on battery life of any I've touched yet. There are few if any programs out there that require 2.3 or higher, and until that is the case, why change?
The atmosphere is totally different than it was last fall, when the rest of the world was going 2.2 and Vibrant was stuck on 2.1. At that time, there were an increasing number of programs that simply would not work on Eclair - plus Froyo had been promised as an update. Now we have everything Samsung promised, and really if you're running a lightly modded ROM, it *is* bug-free.
So... until I am forced to consider 2.3, I'm sticking with KA6.. It is nice after years of constantly flashing upgrades on the HTC Vogue (wm6), then the G1, then flashing the MT3G constantly, then constantly flashing the Vibrant, to actually pick up my phone and have it work the same way it did yesterday.
Hello my fellow HTC Desire HD users and developers.
My name is StJohn, I'm from South Africa.
I'm very dissapointed to see that we have been left behind in the ICS race.
Nexus one users are seeing progress with ICS, along with the desire users, and a couple others. The desire users already have a flashable ZIP...
So heres the big question:
Where is our ICS progress? Is there no developers working on one for us?
The Desire HD hardware is ahead of the desire, so thats not an excuse. And I
know theres no source code yet, but developers are making progress with the SDK just to give users a taste of ICS at least. I just want to see the same progress for the Desire HD users. Wheres our ICS?
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Developers here tend to wait for the official release before doing anything like that. It saves a ton of hassle because theres less that will go wrong and less complaints and things.
If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it
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If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it
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Yep, Cyanogen is the most stock like custom ROM I know of, and if they can't make it yet, it must not be fit for general use.
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Yep, Cyanogen is the most stock like custom ROM I know of, and if they can't make it yet, it must not be fit for general use.
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While I agree with the point. CM mod is not really all that close to stock anymore. It has its own framework and built in mods. Nothing wring with it as I use a CM bases rom from time to time.
But I do agree with the fact they are wanting to wait for the source. The sdk is not enough to build anything worth releasing right now. Mainly with huge population of new to Modding people on XDA now. A couple of years ago I would have been all over the sdk as well and tossed something out there knowing that the people using it would be able to help with the loads of issues that it Will have for sure. Can't do that now. To many people blindly flashing with know real idea of what is going on and don't know how to give proper feedback and bug reports. Now I know this is just due to people being new and we were all new at once but now there are more people coming from an iPhone or this is there first smartphone and can't really release what we used to.
Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.
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Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.
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good point, I believe the OP would need to contact CM's client service to complain
This should ease your concerns, https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
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Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.
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+1
Remember assumptions are the mother of all F**K Ups
They have been trying. They have it booting but the touchscreen does not work so nothing can be done.
To be fair,its all different hardware niggles, the end of the day..you could have a dev release a rom...that has a hundred bugs and is generally ****. Gingerbread came out,which was good you could test it but really pissed you off in a way that there was no way to use it daily unless you fancied losing wifi or no bluetooth.
Patience is the key.Why are there so many threads about this **** lol its every time, i do also want to post numerous threads regarding this but patience. How has the hd been left behind anyway, we have had every release so far besides ice cream
i'm almost sure DHD won't get ICS... technicaly DHD could get an 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 official OTA anytime but HTC waits until ICS will hit Sensations. Just about one month before that, DHD will get 2.3.5 as final official update...
It was the same with Hero last year... when htc rolled 2.1 on HERO just before the 2.2 launch on the newer devices. It's all marketing and I'm sure the carriers are the key players... especially the ones in US. They are making the rules and the 2 years product rollout cycle.
I'm also pretty sure that HTC "supports" the "rooting and custom roms development"... as some kind of justice for the HTC hard core consumers...
One way or another ICS will come to the dhd... If its not official it will be a port or cyanogen.
But atm i'm really happy with the 2.3.5 runny rom^^ Lets just be a little patient!
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If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it
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What he said.
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i'm almost sure DHD won't get ICS...
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harrehk said:
This should ease your concerns, https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
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It's a two page thread. Come on.
The Sensation is getting ICS so I'm very sure the DHD will get it.
If you don't think so have more faith in devs on xda.
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in that 2 page thread it says
"New devices,i.e,Released after May 2011 will receive the updates prior to the old phones like Desire HD"
What that means? no ICS TO DHD? ?
did not understadn fully that thing there please explain?
All I want, and so many other people, is a taste of ICS, Just a test drive, I'm not asking for daily use, and the expression "left out" is referring to the SDK roms coming out, not the official source code or official release of ICS.
Just want to see some progress to a flashable ICS port, and now I am seeing that over at the development forum so this is good.
This may a ridiculous question (sorry in advance) but would any port of ICS still have the SRS settings for the music player?
Pruikki said:
in that 2 page thread it says
"New devices,i.e,Released after May 2011 will receive the updates prior to the old phones like Desire HD"
What that means? no ICS TO DHD? ?
did not understadn fully that thing there please explain?
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It means the newer phones will get it first.
I counted about a dozen sweet Ice Cream Sandwich Roms in the Development forum based on at least three completely open source repo's.
I say up yours Samsung, we don't need your kind around here!!!
they said that cuz our phones dont have the memory to handle the ics using touchwiz framework
and i doubt they would ever remove it so no official update for us
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they said that cuz our phones dont have the memory to handle the ics using touchwiz framework
and i doubt they would ever remove it so no official update for us
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They have a SGS II port in the i9000 forum that is ICS touchwiz and it seams to run pretty well, (they have a video, i tried to port it but the kernel is hacked to make it work) so really they just dont want to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1521974
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They have a SGS II port in the i9000 forum that is ICS touchwiz and it seams to run pretty well, (they have a video, i tried to port it but the kernel is hacked to make it work) so really they just dont want to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1521974
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samsung u bastards! lol
I recommend checking out ICZen, im running rc 1.3 and its the best rom ive tested thus far.
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I recommend checking out ICZen, im running rc 1.3 and its the best rom ive tested thus far.
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Already a Zenaholic...lol.
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Just ODIN>JFD>CM9 Alpha>Slim ICS
I'm enjoying Slim ICS far more than I expected. Looonnng time xda lurker, I hope I can bring something to the table.
They want us all to spend more money on newer phones.
are you guys still stuck on this subject? GET OVER IT. We have amazing ICS ROMS in our dev section already. Samsung has their business style just as any other company.
If you guys are really still stuck on the subject, you could try to spread the word of this petition...
http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-were-asking-you-bring-the-galaxy-s-users-an-update
Sadly the petition started to slow down about a month ago, but hey, maybe you guys can give it a second wind. Although I honestly doubt we'll get an official upgrade at this point in time.
Hi all,
Wanted to share this exciting news and hope that our devs will start working on this.
http://androidcommunity.com/cyanogenmod-10-will-bring-jelly-bean-to-many-20120705/
Jelly Bean source is expected to be released by the end of the month.
Anyone hungry for more desert?
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that is really an exciting news
can't wait the release of jb!
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yes!:laugh: cant wait!
And the code is out. Cranck up your machines and let the fun begin....
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-4-1-jelly-bean-source-code-released-to-aosp/
I read elsewhere the differences between JB and ICS weren't really large, so it should be "easy" (as easy as something as complex can be ) to port ICS working devices to JB.
I would love that, the longer my phone last, the happyer i am.
Looks like CM already started working on JB
http://androidcommunity.com/cyanogenmod-updates-their-status-on-cm10-jelly-bean-20120710/
which is a good new, I hope, one of our devs will take an interest on porting one to MS2, although it's a little premature for that.
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Looks like CM already started working on JB
http://androidcommunity.com/cyanogenmod-updates-their-status-on-cm10-jelly-bean-20120710/
which is a good new, I hope, one of our devs will take an interest on porting one to MS2, although it's a little premature for that.
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Yeah it's a bit "premature", but we will probably get it in time.
If i'm not mistaken, we had ICS on our phones before the official version was available for MS4.... it speaks a lot of the "proficiency" and understanding of products of Motorola devs...
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Yeah it's a bit "premature", but we will probably get it in time.
If i'm not mistaken, we had ICS on our phones before the official version was available for MS4.... it speaks a lot of the "proficiency" and understanding of products of Motorola devs...
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Moto now should do, as they promised. Unlock boot loaders fro mobiles, which they won't support ....
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Moto now should do, as they promised. Unlock boot loaders fro mobiles, which they won't support ....
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Well, according to this:http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-promises-unlocked-bootloaders-coming-soon-20120711/
Moto just promised to "try" to unlock BL what they were doing for the last couple of years but time will show, i guess...
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Well, according to this:http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-promises-unlocked-bootloaders-coming-soon-20120711/
Moto just promised to "try" to unlock BL what they were doing for the last couple of years but time will show, i guess...
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I'm always "reassured" by people BUILDING/CREATING AND SELLING PRODUCTS when they explain to you they can "try" to do something that is super easy, and haven't made the slightest progress in 1 year and a half on it.
It makes you want to believe they are able to do more complex things on their products without botching it... not.
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Well, according to this:http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-promises-unlocked-bootloaders-coming-soon-20120711/
Moto just promised to "try" to unlock BL what they were doing for the last couple of years but time will show, i guess...
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We can understand why we won’t be holding our breathes...
Looks like the ball had already started rolling on Defy front
Which is a good sign for Moto community and especially for us. Time to hold your breath.
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Looks like the ball had already started rolling on Defy front
Which is a good sign for Moto community and especially for us. Time to hold your breath.
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Or not.
It's not like we don't have our hands full finding new bugs on the CM9 port already... (yeah i know, there is not much, and most of them are known already ).
And there is still quite some functionality of CM9 to be merged too, like themes support and so on.
But yeah, it's a good thing people already started working on JB/CM/10 port (makes you wonder what the overpaid devs working for constructors/operators are doing in their days, since having access to far more than us, and not having to work with the locked bootloader restrictions, they still haven't ported most of their december 2011 devices to ICS... ).
Hell at that rythm, MS2 will have JB before the official ICS hits the MS4...
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Or not.
It's not like we don't have our hands full finding new bugs on the CM9 port already... (yeah i know, there is not much, and most of them are known already ).
And there is still quite some functionality of CM9 to be merged too, like themes support and so on.
But yeah, it's a good thing people already started working on JB/CM/10 port (makes you wonder what the overpaid devs working for constructors/operators are doing in their days, since having access to far more than us, and not having to work with the locked bootloader restrictions, they still haven't ported most of their december 2011 devices to ICS... ).
Hell at that rythm, MS2 will have JB before the official ICS hits the MS4...
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Gotta love your optimism, buddy
But I think, Alex is doing an amazing job of taking ownership of CM9 and tiding things up. I read on his tweet that he has resloved the flash conflict issue, so we may be getting an update this weekend. (hopefully)
Regarding HW keypad, read your post on CM9 thread, I'll have a look into that when I'll be home and have all my tools. I use qwerty, so I fixed the file for my own convenience to be able to have caps lock on double press of shift button.
But, you're most certainly right, it's not like we will have JB working from day one and it's gonna take a lot of effort by our devs to make MS2 stand tall in front of the big boys lol afterall this is probably the best hw keypad device in the market.
And for now we just can watch closely how thing are developing for Defy
Megalith27 said:
Gotta love your optimism, buddy
But I think, Alex is doing an amazing job of taking ownership of CM9 and tiding things up. I read on his tweet that he has resloved the flash conflict issue, so we may be getting an update this weekend. (hopefully)
Regarding HW keypad, read your post on CM9 thread, I'll have a look into that when I'll be home and have all my tools. I use qwerty, so I fixed the file for my own convenience to be able to have caps lock on double press of shift button.
But, you're most certainly right, it's not like we will have JB working from day one and it's gonna take a lot of effort by our devs to make MS2 stand tall in front of the big boys lol afterall this is probably the best hw keypad device in the market.
And for now we just can watch closely how thing are developing for Defy
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Being optimistic is nice sometimes, and it's quite easy when people like Alex works so fast AND pretty much everything unlock around the same time (in a short time we had the camera, the 720p decoding (and encoding i think) and hwa unlocked for our phones ), but yeah, i know it'll take time, but i'm not in a hurry anyway, my phone is more than usable on a daily basis for what i do, everything else is "added benefits".
For the keyboard, if you can find how to change that, and explain to me how to do it, i would be glad.
do you think there will be ever some release for ms2?
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do you think there will be ever some release for ms2?
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The code is very similar to ICS so the cyanogen team think any phone that can run CM9 will probably be able to run CM10, which is promising
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Quarx on Defy front is on fire!!! He managed to make audio work with some help from other devs and also video recording.
I am saying by Friday he will have complete pre-alpha version of CM10 for Defy.
Hard to explain but I am kinda excited, although I get an impression that Defy sees more love from devs than our MS2 and can't find a reason why
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Quarx on Defy front is on fire!!! He managed to make audio work with some help from other devs and also video recording.
I am saying by Friday he will have complete pre-alpha version of CM10 for Defy.
Hard to explain but I am kinda excited, although I get an impression that Defy sees more love from devs than our MS2 and can't find a reason why
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That's good news.
Quite some reasons actually for the far more active Defy :
- there is far less versions of it (he don't have like 3/4 versions just for the countries outside the US ), and from what i've read, the Defy is roughly the same everywhere, unlike the Droid2/Droid 2 Global/MS2
- there wasn't the "oops, you can't downgrade anymore" update on it i think
- it's a more "mainstream" phone than the Droid lines (strangely, the phones with hardware keyboards are "niche" phones, wonder why when they are similar in price, size and perfs to non hw ones )
But hey, good thing the MS lines of phones share so much hardware and similarities with other more active phones like Defy/Atrix, makes it easier for us having something working.