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Dev support starting to diminish?

So we've have some devs recently that have either announced that they are stopping/slowing down support or have gone entirely... Anyone feel like this is the beginning of the end for our beloved X10?
This is the list so far:
1. Zdzihu (has slowed down support for his roms and haven't seen any activity from him in over 2 weeks)
2. Cobrato (has stopped development on his MIUI rom)
3. TripNraver (Has also stopped development on all his roms due to personal reasons)
4. Achotjan (has announced that he will be slowing down support as he will be/is a student)
5. Jerpelea (havent seen anything from him in awhile (or is he a part of the freeXperia team?)
*EDIT* Heard that he changed his name to FXP and is still very much active!
6. Rdannar (gone because his phone is broke)
7. Z!GZA!G (new and promising dev but phone broke as well )
We still have very active support from Wolfbreak, nasif619, spaarc and Erickwill in terms of roms and also from Doomlord, Thjap and Azuzu for their kernels and tweaks as well as some releases from other newcomers but I cant help but feel like we're in a bit of trouble...
Anybody else that I'm missing or didn't give credit to? let me know and I'll update the list.. Maybe we can come up with some way to get some devs back on out device or have more development going

unfortunately this is the circle of life.
Support goes to the new generation of devices.Just get over it.
We have more than we imagined when we bought x10.

scattaman said:
So we've have some devs recently that have either announced that they are stopping/slowing down support or have gone entirely... Anyone feel like this is the beginning of the end for our beloved X10?
This is the list so far:
1. Zdzihu (has slowed down support for his roms and haven't seen any activity from him in over 2 weeks)
2. Cobrato (has stopped development on his MIUI rom)
3. TripNraver (Has also stopped development on all his roms due to personal reasons)
4. Achotjan (has announced that he will be slowing down support as he will be/is a student)
5. Jp (havent seen anything from him in awhile (or is he a part of the freeXperia team?)
6. Rdannar (gone because his phone is broke)
7. Z!GZA!G (new and promising dev but phone broke as well )
We still have very active support from Wolfbreak, and Erickwill in terms of roms and also from Doomlord, Thjap and Azuzu for their kernels and tweaks as well as some releases from other newcomers but I cant help but feel like we're in a bit of trouble...
Anybody else that I'm missing or didn't give credit to? let me know and I'll update the list.. Maybe we can come up with some way to get some devs back on out device or have more development going
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1. Z is around, don't worry. Hopefully he's busy with providing a bootloader unlock (just dreamin' ) He never posted that much, just compare his post count with what he achieved for our x10. He's not someone who just talks and promises a lot, but when he's posting you can be almost sure that it's either a fix or a major breakthrough that is already prepared for public release
2. Cobrato said he won't continue developing MIUI ROMs because it's a lot of worked without sources (MIUI sources are not released to public). As far as I know he didn't say, he doesn't develop anymore. So let's see what'll come from him
3. Trip left xda by his own choice. If he also stopped dev'ing on modaco, that's sad, but personal reasons are more important than development. Btw. wasn't he planning to dev for the Sensation? Didn't see a single ROM from him there.
4. Achotjan slows own, right. That doesn't mean he's gone.
5. Jp - are you talking about Jerpelea? If so you must be kidding. He's the heart of the FreeXperia team, developing for all Xperia phones atm (X10/mini/pro, Arc, Play, mini/pro from 2011, ...). Recently he changed his name to FXP (FreeXPeria?) so don't get confused.
6. rdannar & Z!GZA!G: didn't know that. It's really a pitty. I hope they'll be back with new or repaired phones

Good to know that Z and FXP are still doing their thing! I'm a bit of a flashaholic so I get real sad when I dont see updates for a couple days... but you're right... it is the cycle of life and it will happen sooner or later.
Hopefully if bootloader gets unlocked, it will bring back a lot of dev activity

I doubt there is enough interest to unlock the bootloader now.

oddly enough we're at a weird point right now....
older phones are so old they are losing dev support, and also there are so many good newer phones that are so new causing them to have little dev support lol

ephumuris said:
I doubt there is enough interest to unlock the bootloader now.
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that's exactly what I was thinking. And without a unlocked bootloader, there isn't much more the devs can do now anyways.

don't forget about doomlord!
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ballubas said:
don't forget about doomlord!
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DooMLoRD is hyper-active and replies to all questions and requests daily.
He is also one of the best devs we have on the Xperia scene.

kloud_ said:
DooMLoRD is hyper-active and replies to all questions and requests daily.
He is also one of the best devs we have on the Xperia scene.
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OO yeah!!
+1

Well devs are humans they have other things to do..

I feel that we already got too much support from developers on our X10 and even though things have naturally slowed down, there is still some notable activity.
And maybe it's time for normal users like us to read and research and make our own progress! Will be fun!
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I really think that the devs have done an amazing job with this phone, such so that I see no incentives in upgrading my phone to a newer model.. However is there really much more they can do? The only two things I see as missing from the software side is lack of a fully unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colour screen! But there's no real need for an unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colours is only going to happen if SE release source codes..
So really I feel that we've been lucky to have such amazing dev support for the last year. They've pushed this phone to its limits and without them what would we do!
All I can say is that they've done a great job and I hope to see some more of their work down the line!
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ChuckNorrisTheSecond said:
I really think that the devs have done an amazing job with this phone, such so that I see no incentives in upgrading my phone to a newer model.. However is there really much more they can do? The only two things I see as missing from the software side is lack of a fully unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colour screen! But there's no real need for an unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colours is only going to happen if SE release source codes..
So really I feel that we've been lucky to have such amazing dev support for the last year. They've pushed this phone to its limits and without them what would we do!
All I can say is that they've done a great job and I hope to see some more of their work down the line!
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FAIL!!
Bootloader unlocking is the main part...

I thought they where trying to get the 3x kernel ported to x10 could be wrong but thought they where close to getting it to work
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chiefy009 said:
I thought they where trying to get the 3x kernel ported to x10 could be wrong but thought they where close to getting it to work
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Yes doom also told me abt that!!
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what is 3x kernel?

Yes, I'm afraid. The dev support for this phone is slowly diminishing. It's sad because they have achieved so much with this phone. At the same time, what else is there to do with this phone that hasn't been done already, or that doesn't need an unlocked bootloader. Hopefully Z comes out with some good news about the bootloader soon, that should keep people here a bit longer.
I hope that one or two devs stay till the end, I came in late in the game so I'm stuck with this phone on a contract until March 2013! D:
That being said, I do love this phone. It's not only my first smartphone, but it's my first ever phone. It has a strange sentimental value to me
Just my too sense.

its the kernel from when we got the gingerbread update. the custom kernel we have is based on the older kernel but our devs have fixed so it works on gingerbread
scattaman said:
what is 3x kernel?
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ballubas said:
its the kernel from when we got the gingerbread update. the custom kernel we have is based on the older kernel but our devs have fixed so it works on gingerbread
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U r 100% wrong we got a patched old 2.1 kernel from se to work with 2.3 after gingerbread update they r tring to port a completly new 2.6.3x...
Go to settings and check ur kernel version is 2.6.29...
I think so...
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Desire HD users have been left out

Hello my fellow HTC Desire HD users and developers.
My name is StJohn, I'm from South Africa.
I'm very dissapointed to see that we have been left behind in the ICS race.
Nexus one users are seeing progress with ICS, along with the desire users, and a couple others. The desire users already have a flashable ZIP...
So heres the big question:
Where is our ICS progress? Is there no developers working on one for us?
The Desire HD hardware is ahead of the desire, so thats not an excuse. And I
know theres no source code yet, but developers are making progress with the SDK just to give users a taste of ICS at least. I just want to see the same progress for the Desire HD users. Wheres our ICS?

Hi
Developers here tend to wait for the official release before doing anything like that. It saves a ton of hassle because theres less that will go wrong and less complaints and things.

If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it

brad808 said:
If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it
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Yep, Cyanogen is the most stock like custom ROM I know of, and if they can't make it yet, it must not be fit for general use.

raze599 said:
Yep, Cyanogen is the most stock like custom ROM I know of, and if they can't make it yet, it must not be fit for general use.
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While I agree with the point. CM mod is not really all that close to stock anymore. It has its own framework and built in mods. Nothing wring with it as I use a CM bases rom from time to time.
But I do agree with the fact they are wanting to wait for the source. The sdk is not enough to build anything worth releasing right now. Mainly with huge population of new to Modding people on XDA now. A couple of years ago I would have been all over the sdk as well and tossed something out there knowing that the people using it would be able to help with the loads of issues that it Will have for sure. Can't do that now. To many people blindly flashing with know real idea of what is going on and don't know how to give proper feedback and bug reports. Now I know this is just due to people being new and we were all new at once but now there are more people coming from an iPhone or this is there first smartphone and can't really release what we used to.

Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.

tomegranate said:
Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.
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good point, I believe the OP would need to contact CM's client service to complain

This should ease your concerns, https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd

tomegranate said:
Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.
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+1
Remember assumptions are the mother of all F**K Ups

They have been trying. They have it booting but the touchscreen does not work so nothing can be done.

To be fair,its all different hardware niggles, the end of the day..you could have a dev release a rom...that has a hundred bugs and is generally ****. Gingerbread came out,which was good you could test it but really pissed you off in a way that there was no way to use it daily unless you fancied losing wifi or no bluetooth.
Patience is the key.Why are there so many threads about this **** lol its every time, i do also want to post numerous threads regarding this but patience. How has the hd been left behind anyway, we have had every release so far besides ice cream

i'm almost sure DHD won't get ICS... technicaly DHD could get an 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 official OTA anytime but HTC waits until ICS will hit Sensations. Just about one month before that, DHD will get 2.3.5 as final official update...
It was the same with Hero last year... when htc rolled 2.1 on HERO just before the 2.2 launch on the newer devices. It's all marketing and I'm sure the carriers are the key players... especially the ones in US. They are making the rules and the 2 years product rollout cycle.
I'm also pretty sure that HTC "supports" the "rooting and custom roms development"... as some kind of justice for the HTC hard core consumers...

One way or another ICS will come to the dhd... If its not official it will be a port or cyanogen.
But atm i'm really happy with the 2.3.5 runny rom^^ Lets just be a little patient!

brad808 said:
If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it
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What he said.

cristeamax said:
i'm almost sure DHD won't get ICS...
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harrehk said:
This should ease your concerns, https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
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It's a two page thread. Come on.

The Sensation is getting ICS so I'm very sure the DHD will get it.
If you don't think so have more faith in devs on xda.
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in that 2 page thread it says
"New devices,i.e,Released after May 2011 will receive the updates prior to the old phones like Desire HD"
What that means? no ICS TO DHD? ?
did not understadn fully that thing there please explain?

All I want, and so many other people, is a taste of ICS, Just a test drive, I'm not asking for daily use, and the expression "left out" is referring to the SDK roms coming out, not the official source code or official release of ICS.
Just want to see some progress to a flashable ICS port, and now I am seeing that over at the development forum so this is good.

This may a ridiculous question (sorry in advance) but would any port of ICS still have the SRS settings for the music player?

Pruikki said:
in that 2 page thread it says
"New devices,i.e,Released after May 2011 will receive the updates prior to the old phones like Desire HD"
What that means? no ICS TO DHD? ?
did not understadn fully that thing there please explain?
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It means the newer phones will get it first.

Motorola: If ICS won't make our device better, we won't update to it

From Motorola's official blog
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You’re not alone. Good thing we’ve got a page for that. You can get the latest software upgrade news on our refreshed page.
You may be wondering why all devices aren’t being upgraded to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich). Here’s the deal. We work very closely with Google and cell phone carriers for every software update. And, obviously we want the new release to improve our devices. If we determine that can’t be done—well then, we’re not able to upgrade that particular device.
Happy upgrading!
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.

Moonshield said:
Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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You didn't bought a lapdock recently at iandroid ?
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Moonshield said:
Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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me too I won't install motorola's buggy update I like cm9
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It will be Jelly Bean by the time they release ICS.

Just motobabling to excuse their poor post-sale support.

Only sthing stopping me from using CM8 as a daily, is the camera issues. Video FC is still an issue i hear.

Moonshield said:
Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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Well the deal for them is that XDA Developpers is actually some kind of post-sale support for most of their products... And yes, they could release the drivers so the developpers can make better ROMs, I'm currently waiting for an update to install a custom Blur ICS ROM that could support my Lapdock, I'm not as angry as you but I only own the phone since 2 months, and it saved me from Windows Mobile's nightmare, also I'm waiting for a TRUE GPU driver for ICS (Some 2D apps just don't work). I totally agree with you Motorola sucks on this point.

They should admit they're not able to develop as much as jokersax

Me too. I wont updating when they release the official update. I prefer to wait for CM9.
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Lol, but there still will be hundreds of newbs who will update to it and get wonders crappy service and bricks...

That's a good thing.. as long as they come here and tell us about it lol
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If any other company said that, it would be valid. But lets ignore Motorola's track record for a second. Why the hell arent the Droid 3 and Droid X2 on that list? They're both effectively the same phone as the Atrix but with 512mb of ram. Even the cut ram should be enough to run considering the Nexus S and One V run it pretty well.

Jotokun said:
If any other company said that, it would be valid. But lets ignore Motorola's track record for a second. Why the hell arent the Droid 3 and Droid X2 on that list? They're both effectively the same phone as the Atrix but with 512mb of ram. Even the cut ram should be enough to run considering the Nexus S and One V run it pretty well.
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Probably the same reason the the Bravo is only 2.2.1 and the Defy is 2.2.2 and Defy+ is 2.3.6. Oh and they both have 512mb of ram, same processor, and the biggest difference between the three is the camera module. Should I mention that the Droid2, DroidX, Cliq2, Milestone2, Bravo, Defy, and Defy+ are all almost the same phones with different camera modules, different radios, minor differences, and some happen to have a hw keyboard? They can all boot each others custom roms with some tweaking.
Its so we'll buy newer, better phones with updated systems.
And it is enough ram. My Bravo runs CM9 pretty damn smooth with almost no issues other than some flash problems. Damn locked bootloaders.

I'm putting the blame on MotoBlur. If the Nexus S can handle ICS, then the Atrix most certainly can...
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The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development. Release the drivers and fire the entire software team or move them to Android development.

yeahmann said:
The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development. Release the drivers and fire the entire software team or move them to Android development.
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Wait really.. That being true, ill go on the assumption that it is without googling it because I've no reason to doubt you, you're totally right. Unless google sees potential in this blur thing, and since they have their own social network they probably don't. But isn't the whole point of blur social integration? What's googles solution to that or do they feel its a non issue?
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yeahmann said:
The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development.
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Blur will go away now Microsoft has reamed Motorola in court over it. Might take some time, but I don't see Google/Moto paying Microsoft anything in the long term to keep using it in the US.

Aww, but I liked the social parts of Blur! I also hated everything else about it. Don't suggest any third-party widgets, though.

this is a joke, even my htc tattoo is running on ics which has only 256 mb ram and 512 mb rom

[Discussion] Jelly Bean on Xperia Play

So we have had unofficial versions of jellybean for a while now. All the way back to the jbx think tank. Now I hear there is a possibility for a Jellybean update(POSSIBLE. Please don't spam this thread saying "Jellybean never! Muahaha! And ect.) now that firmware has been finally certified for the first time in many months! Now let's get discussing! :beer: What are your thoughts on these things? Not just an official update but Jellybean in general.

They might release jellybean 4.1 (or 4.2 because theyre a bit late )
Because it has better performance and they already had some full ics builds
But i think itll last some time until theyre out
I expect a good performance because theyre getting paid for this stuff.

I think it will be possible if Sony will work with devs to get everything too 100% mainly the touchpad though
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Spatinator said:
They might release jellybean 4.1 (or 4.2 because theyre a bit late )
Because it has better performance and they already had some full ics builds
But i think itll last some time until theyre out
I expect a good performance because theyre getting paid for this stuff.
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Just a theory, but i also hope that theyll release jb

Sorry but I don't think an official jellybean update will happen. They just announced their update plans concerning jellybean and some newer and more powerful devices ( arc s for example) won't be updated. More info on xperiablog.net.
So the new firmware might be for a superlate ICS update or just nothing really.
But I don't care because xda devs have made an amazing job to bring jellybean to our devices. Cosmicdan, cj360, farenheith and all the others, you guys worked very hard to get the most of this abandoned phone. Many devs naturally moved on to other devices, but you stayed for this very special and unique device which did not receive the official support it deserved.
So thank you guys, I won t be buying another Sony phone before long I think because of their catastrophic update policy ( and it doesnt seem it gets better), but you made me and still make me very happy with my phone.

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Sorry but I don't think an official jellybean update will happen. They just announced their update plans concerning jellybean and some newer and more powerful devices ( arc s for example) won't be updated. More info on xperiablog.net.
So the new firmware might be for a superlate ICS update or just nothing really.
But I don't care because xda devs have made an amazing job to bring jellybean to our devices. Cosmicdan, cj360, farenheith and all the others, you guys worked very hard to get the most of this abandoned phone. Many devs naturally moved on to other devices, but you stayed for this very special and unique device which did not receive the official support it deserved.
So thank you guys, I won t be buying another Sony phone before long I think because of their catastrophic update policy ( and it doesnt seem it gets better), but you made me and still make me very happy with my phone.
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You think sony's update policy is bad? You should see Nokia's, they are notorious for abandoning devices within months of their release. Probably why they've all but disappeared from the cellphone competition. Coming from Nokia handset's, N-gage, N900 etc, I'd say sony is a God Send.

Actually from my experience they are all bad in term of updates. I can only recommend Google Nexus devices, although Samsung devices come close because they don't lock their bootloaders, if it is, its usually Verizon or ATT.
For now I will only buy a Nexus device or an Xperia Play 2.
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Very interesting stuff here. I don't really care if we get offical Jellybean. Ill probably switch to a Nexus phone since Im not much of a gamer and use this to play minecraft.
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I'm not a big fan of either verizon or s.e. for the lack of support for this underdog of a phone. but the devs here obviously showed both of them that when you work together as one you can give people what they want...& thats the freedom of choice.
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I am coming from iPhone 4, I have 3 android tablet so I am familiar with android. I was waiting for the Nexus 4 but decided to get Xperia instead. I was surprised at how cheap it is, I just bought it for $90 unlocked GSM. Its a tremendous value. I want to use it for emulation.
Anyways, I have spent the past few hours reading this forum trying to come up with a play of what to do when I comes in. I want to put ICS or Jelly Bean on it mainly because I want to have the virtual back and home buttons. I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction.

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I am coming from iPhone 4, I have 3 android tablet so I am familiar with android. I was waiting for the Nexus 4 but decided to get Xperia instead. I was surprised at how cheap it is, I just bought it for $90 unlocked GSM. Its a tremendous value. I want to use it for emulation.
Anyways, I have spent the past few hours reading this forum trying to come up with a play of what to do when I comes in. I want to put ICS or Jelly Bean on it mainly because I want to have the virtual back and home buttons. I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction.
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If u want emulation, remember that FPSe and Mupen64 got touchpad support ONLY on ICS and +.
So just flash last CM9.1 FXP 152 + farenheit fix and you're done.
Unfortunely, JB is still no go for us, because touchpad causes lag, nobody knows the reason. Except touchpad, JB is 100% funcional tough..

Jelly bean it will be like a gift in christmas for me xD come on developers work more on it!!!!!!!
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The best rom thus far...
The best one I tried so far is this one
The gapps work (when flashed)
The SIM Card works (nice)
Relatively Stable
Fast Bootup
CyangenMod Based.
You do need an unlocked BL
I tried others like SlimBean but it was too buggy and the gapps kept failing on me.
Recommend giving this a try.

Android L for Xoom owners

Any scope or hope we can see android L on Motorola Xoom??

Frankly, no

I can't buy anymore tablet soo I will stick with 4.4.4 and wait for ?!

does anyone know how the progess on lollipop for xoom is ?
what are the problems they are facing?
as there are other devices with tegra 2 that already have lollipop roms out
like galaxy tab 10.1 and i guess asus transformer
i seems the team eos and shishu have hit certain roadblocks
just wondering what those are...

Android L
I'd just be happy with a working link to get my Xoom rooted properly

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does anyone know how the progess on lollipop for xoom is ?
what are the problems they are facing?
as there are other devices with tegra 2 that already have lollipop roms out
like galaxy tab 10.1 and i guess asus transformer
i seems the team eos and shishu have hit certain roadblocks
just wondering what those are...
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No idea! I'm using CM11 (20141130). Still working well, but I'd also like to see the future on my Xoom. I don't know about ASUS, but the Galaxy Tab 10.1 does have an OMNI 5.1.1 that was recently released. I think that this is comparable to Lollipop 5.1.1.
I might just try to download and dissect the codes for both operating systems, and try reverse engineering. If I have some time next week I'll see if I can figure things out.

Cooming soon to you Xoom:

Great news!!! I can't wait to see lollipop on my loved xoom!!

Schischu said:
Cooming soon to you Xoom:
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thanks for sharing this exciting new. can't wait
Frank

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Cooming soon to you Xoom:
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Thanks so much Schischu. This is something I had almost given up on.

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Cooming soon to you Xoom:
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Where would one find this kind of build when it's released
Thanks so much for keeping my XOOM alive @Schischu. I haven't been this excited since @bigrushdog dropped 4.4.4 EOS goodness. :good:

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Cooming soon to you Xoom:
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This looks so fake, look at the Nav Bar... it's different from what i know Lollipop on tablets is... and anyone can fake and mod a Settings About scree as easy as modify some lines on Build.Prop... show us more than just a static screen and i can believe on this...
Show us the Notifications shade, Lockscreen and some Lollipop exclusive apps...

tb110188 said:
This looks so fake, look at the Nav Bar... it's different from what i know Lollipop on tablets is... and anyone can fake and mod a Settings About scree as easy as modify some lines on Build.Prop... show us more than just a static screen and i can believe on this...
Show us the Notifications shade, Lockscreen and some Lollipop exclusive apps...
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Wtf man! Do better research and show some respect to our dedicated developers!

michie said:
Wtf man! Do better research and show some respect to our dedicated developers!
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There is a better research than be a owner of a Lollipop Device (i have a Nexus 4 running AOSP 5.1.1) and while i don't have any proof that this is fake, neither he have any proof that is true!!!

tell me u are not really questioning the integrity of @Schischu
on of the biggest contributors for our xoom
p.s. its stuff like that eventually scares some developers away...

andPS2 said:
tell me u are not really questioning the integrity of @Schischu
on of the biggest contributors for our xoom
p.s. its stuff like that eventually scares some developers away...
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I'm not questioning no one's integrity, just want a bit more proof that this is real, and i see the OP for the 5.1.1 on Galaxy Tab 10.1 and see the same NavBar and this scares me as the default icons on 5.x NavBar are different, even on my Nexus 4 they aren't the Holo Era...

tb110188 said:
This looks so fake, look at the Nav Bar... it's different from what i know Lollipop on tablets is... and anyone can fake and mod a Settings About scree as easy as modify some lines on Build.Prop... show us more than just a static screen and i can believe on this...
Show us the Notifications shade, Lockscreen and some Lollipop exclusive apps...
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I'm really surprised at you. Schischu is a very reliable friend and developer who has always come through for us. On another thread he has said that he has most of the code done, yet not managed to get the camera working yet. There's no reason why he should lie to us, so you can do one of two or three things.
1. Wait patiently (I did this, even going so far as to buy a new Xoom about two weeks ago). By the way,I just love it. Got it up to speed with CM11 a couple of days ago. CM11 is a very good, very stable Rom.
2. Start coding for the Xoom yourself. I think that you might not be able to get up to speed so very fast as you'd need to.
3. As long as you're rich, buy another tablet and don't worry about the rest of us.
Anyway,
"KWICHURBELIAKIN!"

Kingsman1 said:
I'm really surprised at you. Schischu is a very reliable friend and developer who has always come through for us. On another thread he has said that he has most of the code done, yet not managed to get the camera working yet. There's no reason why he should lie to us, so you can do one of two or three things.
1. Wait patiently (I did this, even going so far as to buy a new Xoom about two weeks ago). By the way,I just love it. Got it up to speed with CM11 a couple of days ago. CM11 is a very good, very stable Rom.
2. Start coding for the Xoom yourself. I think that you might not be able to get up to speed so very fast as you'd need to.
3. As long as you're rich, buy another tablet and don't worry about the rest of us.
Anyway,
"KWICHURBELIAKIN!"
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That's my opinion, if you don't like it, it's not my problem. I already use a Rom i built by myself from AOSP code and it's still on 4.1.2 but i'm liking it and still think he can get us a bit more proof than a settings display and as i write before, i saw the Samsung Tab 10.1 5.1.1 and saw the same on-screen controls and they are different than what we have on the Lollipop Source Code...

tb110188 said:
That's my opinion, if you don't like it, it's not my problem. I already use a Rom i built by myself from AOSP code and it's still on 4.1.2 but i'm liking it and still think he can get us a bit more proof than a settings display and as i write before, i saw the Samsung Tab 10.1 5.1.1 and saw the same on-screen controls and they are different than what we have on the Lollipop Source Code...
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Opinions are like noses, everyone has one , but not at all of them are very pretty or handsome . You know it dawns on me that since you can write code for the xoom , then perhaps you should write the lollipop code yourself and stop complaining . I'd love to see the fruit of your efforts. No one else has come rushing onto the stage with any pronouncements of a nearly feasible lollipop Rom for the Xoom. At least Schischu is saying that he's working on it. As I said, if you're so smart, then write the code yourself and release it to us as a finished product . It would be nice to have. Again, do something, or sit it out till the next act comes on stage.
In the meantime, I'm using cyanogen mod 11.0 (20141130) , which is an android 4.4.4 clone , very full featured, and capable in the extreme.
As it is , I know the Xoom is not the fastest tablet in the world, and I know there will come a day when I'll be trading up to something different. However, at the moment , I'm very happy with my Xoom, and using it to the greatest possible extent .
I'm not trying to be mean spirited, but only concerned that in your impatience you appear to be so irritating that you may chase off the one real ray of hope we've had on the next generation of Xoom development.
By the way, I'd genuinely love to see what you can do with the lollipop code.
Blessings

Kingsman1 said:
Opinions are like noses, everyone has one , but not at all of them are very pretty or handsome . You know it dawns on me that since you can write code for the xoom , then perhaps you should write the lollipop code yourself and stop complaining . I'd love to see the fruit of your efforts. No one else has come rushing onto the stage with any pronouncements of a nearly feasible lollipop Rom for the Xoom. At least Schischu is saying that he's working on it. As I said, if you're so smart, then write the code yourself and release it to us as a finished product . It would be nice to have. Again, do something, or sit it out till the next act comes on stage.
In the meantime, I'm using cyanogen mod 11.0 (20141130) , which is an android 4.4.4 clone , very full featured, and capable in the extreme.
As it is , I know the Xoom is not the fastest tablet in the world, and I know there will come a day when I'll be trading up to something different. However, at the moment , I'm very happy with my Xoom, and using it to the greatest possible extent .
I'm not trying to be mean spirited, but only concerned that in your impatience you appear to be so irritating that you may chase off the one real ray of hope we've had on the next generation of Xoom development.
By the way, I'd genuinely love to see what you can do with the lollipop code.
Blessings
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Sorry dude, this is not happening... I'm not telling i'm better than Schischu, just want to see more proofs than a Settings/About Screen that can be faked with some changes on Build.prop and Settings.apk resources... i know this as my Xoom is faked as an Xperia Tablet s (SGPT12) so i can download Mortal Kombat X and play on it...
And i think anyone can use the Rom he wants, i'm still on JB 4.1.2 compiled from AOSP and happy with what my Xoom is capable to do with it... so if you are running CM 11, congratulations to you, and why you don't try and start to play with AOSP code and see what you can achieve with it...
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I'm not trying to be mean spirited, but only concerned that in your impatience you appear to be so irritating that you may chase off the one real ray of hope we've had on the next generation of Xoom development.
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I'm not impatient, just asking more proof that Lollipop can actually happen on Xoom, the Real Lollipop as i saw some ROMs that mimics it and just that... by the way i'n not willing to try Lollipop as i'm happy with what i have right now... maybe i port 4.2.2 AOSP to it and nothing else...