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What's your bet? Ice Cream Sandwich before or after X-mass for the Tab 10.1?

Technobuffalo has an article quoting Mr. Schmidt of Google saying ICS will be deployed around Oct/Nov. How long till the Tab sees it? Is there even a point if it is mostly going to be based off of honeycomb anyways?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...eam-sandwich-coming-in-oct-or-nov-it-appears/
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If it doesn't hit the market in any form until November, I think very few existing products will see ICS this year.
Some might, if only so their manufacturers can behave like twelve-year-olds on the internet and jump up and down shouting 'First!' but I think it will come in reasonable time.
Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
Is there even a point if it is mostly going to be based off of honeycomb anyways?
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I think you're maybe looking at it the wrong way.
It doesn't matter what it's based on, all that matters is that it's the next step forward to an all-round better OS for both phones and tablets.

From what I understand (which is little) the biggest difference we Tablet owners will see will be the availability of more apps (phone apps) scaled up. Along with facial recognition, ability to save web pages for offline viewing, UI changes and scalable widgets.
What great times for Android. One operating system for all and with Amazon offering 50 bucks to developers till November and changes to their appstore coming before their tablet this winter it seems like it is just nonstop good news for Android users.
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Amazon is going to be one hell of a unique fork, OS wise. It should run most regular Android applications, but forget about customizing the UI, and forget about things like application sideloading, Google Music Beta, Google Books, Nook, (or ePubs in general). It'll be locked down tight (bet it won't even have SD card support) and it'll be missing (to some) key features, like cameras and GPS.
Most worrisome of all, if it's a big success and they sell all 5 million they plan on producing this year, it'll FURTHER fragment the Android user base, as developers will need to make stuff for 1.6-2.3 phones/tablets, 3.x tablets, 4.x phones and tablets, and and Amazon's fork of 2.2.
Good news is, if the sales are strong, it'll pull more developers over to the world of Dalvik, and some of that should trickle down to "regular" phones and tablets.

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Amazon is going to be one hell of a unique fork, OS wise. It should run most regular Android applications, but forget about customizing the UI, and forget about things like application sideloading, Google Music Beta, Google Books, Nook, (or ePubs in general). It'll be locked down tight (bet it won't even have SD card support) and it'll be missing (to some) key features, like cameras and GPS.
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Where are people getting all this sort of information?
I hadn't seen any details about Amazon's take on Android but you're posting about it here and someone else is posting about it here.

One way or another the Galaxy Tab will have ICS within a month of AOSP release. Maybe not a official Samsung release though!
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Samsung LOL, around Feb officially....

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Samsung LOL, around Feb officially....
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A Samsung official update? Nooo more like June We may have a CM8 build by Feb, but this is assuming that Google doesn't sit on its hands over the AOSP release. It takes a while for the source to drop

I'm pretty sure when Google releases the source to ICS one of the talented devs on this forum will port an AOSP over to the Galaxy Tab, I don't see why they wouldn't.

x-ravin said:
A Samsung official update? Nooo more like June We may have a CM8 build by Feb, but this is assuming that Google doesn't sit on its hands over the AOSP release. It takes a while for the source to drop
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Ahh what I meant to say was Samsung will release it in Feb but then pull it after too many bugs...... then take till June like you said
Mmmmmm CM8 on this would be awesome, running a CM variant on my SGS

Step666 said:
Where are people getting all this sort of information?
I hadn't seen any details about Amazon's take on Android but you're posting about it here and someone else is posting about it here.
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http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/02/amazon-kindle-tablet/

Step666 said:
Where are people getting all this sort of information?
I hadn't seen any details about Amazon's take on Android but you're posting about it here and someone else is posting about it here.
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http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/02/amazon-kindle-tablet/

i dont want to look like i dont have any faith in our devs but how can you believe they will port the aosp ICS to tab 10.1 when its on even though we dont have any kernel for even p7500 ?
i switched to tab10.1 from xoom for 2 reasons; 1, the screen was better and 2, i believed it would be more populer so it would have more devs than the xoom..
screen is perfect but the number 2 let me down..

_delice_doluca_ said:
i dont want to look like i dont have any faith in our devs but how can you believe they will port the aosp ICS to tab 10.1 when its on even though we dont have any kernel for even p7500 ?
i switched to tab10.1 from xoom for 2 reasons; 1, the screen was better and 2, i believed it would be more populer so it would have more devs than the xoom..
screen is perfect but the number 2 let me down..
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What? Pershoot has a kernel for the 7500... And nobody can "let you down" unless they owe you something...

_delice_doluca_ said:
i dont want to look like i dont have any faith in our devs but how can you believe they will port the aosp ICS to tab 10.1 when its on even though we dont have any kernel for even p7500 ?
i switched to tab10.1 from xoom for 2 reasons; 1, the screen was better and 2, i believed it would be more populer so it would have more devs than the xoom..
screen is perfect but the number 2 let me down..
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There's no guarantee that ICS will offer any real improvement on the Tab, aside from maybe scaling older phone apps better (though 3.2 should fix that).

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What? Pershoot has a kernel for the 7500... And nobody can "let you down" unless they owe you something...
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sorry i havent seen it.. besides i wasnt trying to say they owe us those kernels.. really, i apretiate their work.. but i am sure you understand what i am trying to say..

I can't wait for ICS, but I'd be happy with any vanilla android right now. TouchWiz annoys the crap out of me.

[Shocked] CM is not listing Galaxy Note ANYWHERE

Hey guys,
I was thinking of selling my Note to by a Nexus (i won it, anyway ) but then i thought, i just have to root it and then wait for CyanogenMod 9 as i just LOVE the size of this thing
Then today was just wanting to check if there is any news, progress or anything about the Note and was really shocked that the al-powerful Note is NOT listed ANYWHERE in Cyanogen site!! Does that mean it's not supported?
I really love CyanogenMod with my old phones and was really keen to have that in this beast hardware!!
Please tell me that i'm missing something and that it's supported!!
It's just impossible for me to live with Samsung's UI and development section doesn't seem as active as the one of my old phone (few users of the phone?) and don't get me wrong Devs, we can't live without you but i mean the sales and support of this phone isn't as i expected for such legendary hardware!!

devil snake said:
Hey guys,
I was thinking of selling my Note to by a Nexus (i won it, anyway ) but then i thought, i just have to root it and then wait for CyanogenMod 9 as i just LOVE the size of this thing
Then today was just wanting to check if there is any news, progress or anything about the Note and was really shocked that the al-powerful Note is NOT listed ANYWHERE in Cyanogen site!! Does that mean it's not supported?
I really love CyanogenMod with my old phones and was really keen to have that in this beast hardware!!
Please tell me that i'm missing something and that it's supported!!
It's just impossible for me to live with Samsung's UI and development section doesn't seem as active as the one of my old phone (few users of the phone?) and don't get me wrong Devs, we can't live without you but i mean the sales and support of this phone isn't as i expected for such legendary hardware!!
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One day My xperia Arc was not listed on cyanogen mod website, at next day there was a beta STABLE release even with camera working.
So you know, hacksung team and cyanogen are working on CM9 for all devices so dont expect CM7 on the note

I got bored to death with CM ages ago so it doesn't bother me, but I know people do like it, and... I want this to sell, so I do hope CM materalizes on the Note.

It's being worked on by Team Hacksung. It wouldn't even need to be supported by CM as it's the equivalent to the iPad; a giant SGS2.

Oh Cool, Thanks a lot guys... i can mange the time being without CM7 but i just couldn't have handled the missing of CM9 ... thanks for the great news

Thinking ahead

Now that Samsung have released ICS for GS2, and Custom ROMs will now be ICS based (the majority, at least), this leads us to think... are these the last major OS updates Samsung will give our beloved GS2? Will we receive Jelly Bean, or, dare I say.. Key Lime Pie?

No is my guess. We may get a value pack!

nikzDHD said:
No is my guess. We may get a value pack!
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I agree, after seeing the fate of the Galaxy S.

We get directly a new phone delivered by samsung ceo
Galaxy S got Eclair froyo and GINGERBREAD so 3 os version
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I think there might be a possibility of jelly bean, I wouldn't rule it out just yet.

Red_Vex said:
We get directly a new phone delivered by samsung ceo
Galaxy S got Eclair froyo and GINGERBREAD so 3 os version
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Yes, but not only gingerbread, it got 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.3.6 and 2.3.6 with a value pack, i consider that quite a lot of updates

Cant believe there is already talk about a next version... I KNEW this would start after the official ICS update would arive. People go crazy for months about something (ICS in this case) and after a few days or a week of having it, start dreaming about the next thing...
The next Android version is not even shown yet. After google shows it, add another 6 months. Then maybe, it will come to our Galaxy S II's.
It really depens on WHAT the next version of Android will be like. Some things may determin if our phone's will officialy get it or not.

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Cant believe there is already talk about a next version... I KNEW this would start after the official ICS update would arive. People go crazy for months about something (ICS in this case) and after a few days or a week of having it, start dreaming about the next thing...
The next Android version is not even shown yet. After google shows it, add another 6 months. Then maybe, it will come to our Galaxy S II's.
It really depens on WHAT the next version of Android will be like. Some things may determin if our phone's will officialy get it or not.
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Just to add to that people forget that we have at current moment the best ****ing dual core android phone on the market. so if samsung does stop their support we are damn sure that we have the best devs around to still support our phone with whatever OS comes out in the coming year. Devs come and go but i have read a post by one of the most respectful devs around in these forums and he is staying put...so as long as we have him we have nothing to worry about..
Now as regarding new OS...Jelly Bean, Key Lime, Fruity Pebbles, Kung Pao Chicken or whatever you want to have *****es please....ICS has just arrived and not in full force yet and you lot talking about new OS...What in the freaking blue hell is wrong with you lot? lol enjoy the goodness of ICS and go away for your summer holidays, spring break or whatever and then think about the new OS when the time is right...Jesus

Some countries never got an official 2.3.6 update for the GSII.
Some carriers, like ZTA (Claro, Brazil) are way too damn stupid to allow for updates.

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Now that Samsung have released ICS for GS2, and Custom ROMs will now be ICS based (the majority, at least), this leads us to think... are these the last major OS updates Samsung will give our beloved GS2? Will we receive Jelly Bean, or, dare I say.. Key Lime Pie?
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I will give you the answer once my crystal ball comes back from repairs.
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Stifler69 said:
Just to add to that people forget that we have at current moment the best ****ing dual core android phone on the market. so if samsung does stop their support we are damn sure that we have the best devs around to still support our phone with whatever OS comes out in the coming year. Devs come and go but i have read a post by one of the most respectful devs around in these forums and he is staying put...so as long as we have him we have nothing to worry about..
Now as regarding new OS...Jelly Bean, Key Lime, Fruity Pebbles, Kung Pao Chicken or whatever you want to have *****es please....ICS has just arrived and not in full force yet and you lot talking about new OS...What in the freaking blue hell is wrong with you lot? lol enjoy the goodness of ICS and go away for your summer holidays, spring break or whatever and then think about the new OS when the time is right...Jesus
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Kung pao chicken!!!!!!!!!! +1. Would evolve our phones!!!
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I hope that there will be still some development from Samsung, because the sources of them improve the developing of alternative Roms for the phones.
If i´m right we can see this by the ICS roms, for example missing kernal sources for video record and still waiting for other sources from samsung for developers.
But i worry about that this will not look like that. Maybe some value pack, like other mentioned.
Recording to the update policy i think maybe should choose a google phone next time ? :/

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I hope that there will be still some development from Samsung, because the sources of them improve the developing of alternative Roms for the phones.
If i´m right we can see this by the ICS roms, for example missing kernal sources for video record and still waiting for other sources from samsung for developers.
But i worry about that this will not look like that. Maybe some value pack, like other mentioned.
Recording to the update policy i think maybe should choose a google phone next time ? :/
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well people talking about development and saying that in the next year samsung will kinda fade away it's support for the s2 why are you people worrying. if you actually read you guys should know that the first galaxy s1...i mean i go onto the forums over there and they still have enough development still going on. the same goes for here.
yes there is a lot of hype around the galaxy s3 and i am pretty sure that alot of devs can not wait to get their hands on it. but i am still sure that alot of respectful devs will wait around till a phone and handset that is worth going for and that they know they will get support from google itself, to purchase one ie the next Nexus. the development and the manner they get the updates and sources for that handset is brilliant and amazing. so for me by the looks of it my s2 still has plenty of life and i hope i still be here helping people when jelly bean or fruity pebbles comes along..and then when the new nexus comes along i will be buying that to

There's not much to think about now. Seeing how fast mobile phones evolve, the SGS2 might not even have the appropriate hardware for a new OS. I'm thinking full HD and bigger screens, hovering over screen sensors, screen projection, using the phone as a desktop, 3D stuff...
I'm awaiting Ics, and if and when i'm tired of it, I am sure i'm tired of my phone as well and buy a new one. This is a phone for hardware enthusiasts, one and a half years is more than enough for me.

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well people talking about development and saying that in the next year samsung will kinda fade away it's support for the s2 why are you people worrying. if you actually read you guys should know that the first galaxy s1...i mean i go onto the forums over there and they still have enough development still going on. the same goes for here.
yes there is a lot of hype around the galaxy s3 and i am pretty sure that alot of devs can not wait to get their hands on it. but i am still sure that alot of respectful devs will wait around till a phone and handset that is worth going for and that they know they will get support from google itself, to purchase one ie the next Nexus. the development and the manner they get the updates and sources for that handset is brilliant and amazing. so for me by the looks of it my s2 still has plenty of life and i hope i still be here helping people when jelly bean or fruity pebbles comes along..and then when the new nexus comes along i will be buying that to
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Yes its true that there is still a huge continuing development for SGS1 and there is atm a huge development for SGS2 and i also think that the development will also last very long. Especially because there is enough power in the SGS2 ( Hardware) to get along with further Updates.
So yes i worry that samsung will stop the developing for the phone maybe,but i also know that other DEvs will not

Without Flash support, i dont care about Android V5.
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Simonetti2011 said:
Some countries never got an official 2.3.6 update for the GSII.
Some carriers, like ZTA (Claro, Brazil) are way too damn stupid to allow for updates.
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Lol for me in my country i got only one update wich is 2.3.3 we didnt recive aby update later than that .......
Im using odin to flash firmwares
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XDA mark said:
Cant believe there is already talk about a next version... I KNEW this would start after the official ICS update would arive. People go crazy for months about something (ICS in this case) and after a few days or a week of having it, start dreaming about the next thing...
The next Android version is not even shown yet. After google shows it, add another 6 months. Then maybe, it will come to our Galaxy S II's.
It really depens on WHAT the next version of Android will be like. Some things may determin if our phone's will officialy get it or not.
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I think we will. The Exynos + 1gb RAM is way ahead of it's time.

The Google upgrade agreement with all manufacturers is that all phones that are hardware capable will get upgrades for the first eighteen months from date of first sale of the model .
SGS2 3rd may 2012 .
Jellybean before Dec 2012 i would not think so .
jje

no way ,now new phones r online an wen a new model is out wiv jelly bean ,,,companies will force out an advertise tht phones so these old phones i don think ppl will remember...quad cores r already out

Share the news CM10 is out!!!

Hi all,
Wanted to share this exciting news and hope that our devs will start working on this.
http://androidcommunity.com/cyanogenmod-10-will-bring-jelly-bean-to-many-20120705/
Jelly Bean source is expected to be released by the end of the month.
Anyone hungry for more desert?
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that is really an exciting news
can't wait the release of jb!
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yes!:laugh: cant wait!

And the code is out. Cranck up your machines and let the fun begin....
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-4-1-jelly-bean-source-code-released-to-aosp/

I read elsewhere the differences between JB and ICS weren't really large, so it should be "easy" (as easy as something as complex can be ) to port ICS working devices to JB.
I would love that, the longer my phone last, the happyer i am.

Looks like CM already started working on JB
http://androidcommunity.com/cyanogenmod-updates-their-status-on-cm10-jelly-bean-20120710/
which is a good new, I hope, one of our devs will take an interest on porting one to MS2, although it's a little premature for that.

Megalith27 said:
Looks like CM already started working on JB
http://androidcommunity.com/cyanogenmod-updates-their-status-on-cm10-jelly-bean-20120710/
which is a good new, I hope, one of our devs will take an interest on porting one to MS2, although it's a little premature for that.
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Yeah it's a bit "premature", but we will probably get it in time.
If i'm not mistaken, we had ICS on our phones before the official version was available for MS4.... it speaks a lot of the "proficiency" and understanding of products of Motorola devs...

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Yeah it's a bit "premature", but we will probably get it in time.
If i'm not mistaken, we had ICS on our phones before the official version was available for MS4.... it speaks a lot of the "proficiency" and understanding of products of Motorola devs...
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Moto now should do, as they promised. Unlock boot loaders fro mobiles, which they won't support ....
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Moto now should do, as they promised. Unlock boot loaders fro mobiles, which they won't support ....
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Well, according to this:http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-promises-unlocked-bootloaders-coming-soon-20120711/
Moto just promised to "try" to unlock BL what they were doing for the last couple of years but time will show, i guess...

Megalith27 said:
Well, according to this:http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-promises-unlocked-bootloaders-coming-soon-20120711/
Moto just promised to "try" to unlock BL what they were doing for the last couple of years but time will show, i guess...
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I'm always "reassured" by people BUILDING/CREATING AND SELLING PRODUCTS when they explain to you they can "try" to do something that is super easy, and haven't made the slightest progress in 1 year and a half on it.
It makes you want to believe they are able to do more complex things on their products without botching it... not.

Megalith27 said:
Well, according to this:http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-promises-unlocked-bootloaders-coming-soon-20120711/
Moto just promised to "try" to unlock BL what they were doing for the last couple of years but time will show, i guess...
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We can understand why we won’t be holding our breathes...

Looks like the ball had already started rolling on Defy front
Which is a good sign for Moto community and especially for us. Time to hold your breath.

Megalith27 said:
Looks like the ball had already started rolling on Defy front
Which is a good sign for Moto community and especially for us. Time to hold your breath.
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Or not.
It's not like we don't have our hands full finding new bugs on the CM9 port already... (yeah i know, there is not much, and most of them are known already ).
And there is still quite some functionality of CM9 to be merged too, like themes support and so on.
But yeah, it's a good thing people already started working on JB/CM/10 port (makes you wonder what the overpaid devs working for constructors/operators are doing in their days, since having access to far more than us, and not having to work with the locked bootloader restrictions, they still haven't ported most of their december 2011 devices to ICS... ).
Hell at that rythm, MS2 will have JB before the official ICS hits the MS4...

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Or not.
It's not like we don't have our hands full finding new bugs on the CM9 port already... (yeah i know, there is not much, and most of them are known already ).
And there is still quite some functionality of CM9 to be merged too, like themes support and so on.
But yeah, it's a good thing people already started working on JB/CM/10 port (makes you wonder what the overpaid devs working for constructors/operators are doing in their days, since having access to far more than us, and not having to work with the locked bootloader restrictions, they still haven't ported most of their december 2011 devices to ICS... ).
Hell at that rythm, MS2 will have JB before the official ICS hits the MS4...
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Gotta love your optimism, buddy
But I think, Alex is doing an amazing job of taking ownership of CM9 and tiding things up. I read on his tweet that he has resloved the flash conflict issue, so we may be getting an update this weekend. (hopefully)
Regarding HW keypad, read your post on CM9 thread, I'll have a look into that when I'll be home and have all my tools. I use qwerty, so I fixed the file for my own convenience to be able to have caps lock on double press of shift button.
But, you're most certainly right, it's not like we will have JB working from day one and it's gonna take a lot of effort by our devs to make MS2 stand tall in front of the big boys lol afterall this is probably the best hw keypad device in the market.
And for now we just can watch closely how thing are developing for Defy

Megalith27 said:
Gotta love your optimism, buddy
But I think, Alex is doing an amazing job of taking ownership of CM9 and tiding things up. I read on his tweet that he has resloved the flash conflict issue, so we may be getting an update this weekend. (hopefully)
Regarding HW keypad, read your post on CM9 thread, I'll have a look into that when I'll be home and have all my tools. I use qwerty, so I fixed the file for my own convenience to be able to have caps lock on double press of shift button.
But, you're most certainly right, it's not like we will have JB working from day one and it's gonna take a lot of effort by our devs to make MS2 stand tall in front of the big boys lol afterall this is probably the best hw keypad device in the market.
And for now we just can watch closely how thing are developing for Defy
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Being optimistic is nice sometimes, and it's quite easy when people like Alex works so fast AND pretty much everything unlock around the same time (in a short time we had the camera, the 720p decoding (and encoding i think) and hwa unlocked for our phones ), but yeah, i know it'll take time, but i'm not in a hurry anyway, my phone is more than usable on a daily basis for what i do, everything else is "added benefits".
For the keyboard, if you can find how to change that, and explain to me how to do it, i would be glad.

do you think there will be ever some release for ms2?

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do you think there will be ever some release for ms2?
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The code is very similar to ICS so the cyanogen team think any phone that can run CM9 will probably be able to run CM10, which is promising
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Quarx on Defy front is on fire!!! He managed to make audio work with some help from other devs and also video recording.
I am saying by Friday he will have complete pre-alpha version of CM10 for Defy.
Hard to explain but I am kinda excited, although I get an impression that Defy sees more love from devs than our MS2 and can't find a reason why

Megalith27 said:
Quarx on Defy front is on fire!!! He managed to make audio work with some help from other devs and also video recording.
I am saying by Friday he will have complete pre-alpha version of CM10 for Defy.
Hard to explain but I am kinda excited, although I get an impression that Defy sees more love from devs than our MS2 and can't find a reason why
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That's good news.
Quite some reasons actually for the far more active Defy :
- there is far less versions of it (he don't have like 3/4 versions just for the countries outside the US ), and from what i've read, the Defy is roughly the same everywhere, unlike the Droid2/Droid 2 Global/MS2
- there wasn't the "oops, you can't downgrade anymore" update on it i think
- it's a more "mainstream" phone than the Droid lines (strangely, the phones with hardware keyboards are "niche" phones, wonder why when they are similar in price, size and perfs to non hw ones )
But hey, good thing the MS lines of phones share so much hardware and similarities with other more active phones like Defy/Atrix, makes it easier for us having something working.

Android L?

I haven't seen any posts about it. I am sure our phones can handle it, but are there any devs thinking about working on it? I know someone got the Nexus 4 to boot on L.

ashwinmudigonda said:
I haven't seen any posts about it. I am sure our phones can handle it, but are there any devs thinking about working on it? I know someone got the Nexus 4 to boot on L.
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Patience.
I guarantee numerous devs will build L for the S4.

ashwinmudigonda said:
I haven't seen any posts about it. I am sure our phones can handle it, but are there any devs thinking about working on it? I know someone got the Nexus 4 to boot on L.
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Also remember that "L" is a developer preview. It isn't really designed to work - it's designed to show developers what the next version of Android will be like. Very basic things like the API are still changing. Even when an "L" ROM comes out, I would avoid it as a daily driver at all costs until it stabilizes and gets into Beta.

Hobadee said:
Also remember that "L" is a developer preview. It isn't really designed to work - it's designed to show developers what the next version of Android will be like. Very basic things like the API are still changing. Even when an "L" ROM comes out, I would avoid it as a daily driver at all costs until it stabilizes and gets into Beta.
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I am aware of all that. I have been watching Android evolve for a few years now. My question was merely why there isn't any talk about it around here from the devs.

I'm hyped for L for the improved battery life.

Well since the Galaxy S3's are getting KitKat, I'm sure we'll be getting Android L when it's stable and released. If anything, we can always get an AOSP Rom

There's no talk because theres nothing to talk about except, "WHERES OUR L UPDATE SAMSUNG?! GOD. YOU TAKE FOR EVER. ANOTHER PHONE HAS IT. GOD I HATE SAMSUNG"
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