Hello my fellow HTC Desire HD users and developers.
My name is StJohn, I'm from South Africa.
I'm very dissapointed to see that we have been left behind in the ICS race.
Nexus one users are seeing progress with ICS, along with the desire users, and a couple others. The desire users already have a flashable ZIP...
So heres the big question:
Where is our ICS progress? Is there no developers working on one for us?
The Desire HD hardware is ahead of the desire, so thats not an excuse. And I
know theres no source code yet, but developers are making progress with the SDK just to give users a taste of ICS at least. I just want to see the same progress for the Desire HD users. Wheres our ICS?
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Developers here tend to wait for the official release before doing anything like that. It saves a ton of hassle because theres less that will go wrong and less complaints and things.
If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it
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If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it
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Yep, Cyanogen is the most stock like custom ROM I know of, and if they can't make it yet, it must not be fit for general use.
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Yep, Cyanogen is the most stock like custom ROM I know of, and if they can't make it yet, it must not be fit for general use.
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While I agree with the point. CM mod is not really all that close to stock anymore. It has its own framework and built in mods. Nothing wring with it as I use a CM bases rom from time to time.
But I do agree with the fact they are wanting to wait for the source. The sdk is not enough to build anything worth releasing right now. Mainly with huge population of new to Modding people on XDA now. A couple of years ago I would have been all over the sdk as well and tossed something out there knowing that the people using it would be able to help with the loads of issues that it Will have for sure. Can't do that now. To many people blindly flashing with know real idea of what is going on and don't know how to give proper feedback and bug reports. Now I know this is just due to people being new and we were all new at once but now there are more people coming from an iPhone or this is there first smartphone and can't really release what we used to.
Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.
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Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.
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good point, I believe the OP would need to contact CM's client service to complain
This should ease your concerns, https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
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Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.
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Remember assumptions are the mother of all F**K Ups
They have been trying. They have it booting but the touchscreen does not work so nothing can be done.
To be fair,its all different hardware niggles, the end of the day..you could have a dev release a rom...that has a hundred bugs and is generally ****. Gingerbread came out,which was good you could test it but really pissed you off in a way that there was no way to use it daily unless you fancied losing wifi or no bluetooth.
Patience is the key.Why are there so many threads about this **** lol its every time, i do also want to post numerous threads regarding this but patience. How has the hd been left behind anyway, we have had every release so far besides ice cream
i'm almost sure DHD won't get ICS... technicaly DHD could get an 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 official OTA anytime but HTC waits until ICS will hit Sensations. Just about one month before that, DHD will get 2.3.5 as final official update...
It was the same with Hero last year... when htc rolled 2.1 on HERO just before the 2.2 launch on the newer devices. It's all marketing and I'm sure the carriers are the key players... especially the ones in US. They are making the rules and the 2 years product rollout cycle.
I'm also pretty sure that HTC "supports" the "rooting and custom roms development"... as some kind of justice for the HTC hard core consumers...
One way or another ICS will come to the dhd... If its not official it will be a port or cyanogen.
But atm i'm really happy with the 2.3.5 runny rom^^ Lets just be a little patient!
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If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it
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What he said.
cristeamax said:
i'm almost sure DHD won't get ICS...
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harrehk said:
This should ease your concerns, https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
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It's a two page thread. Come on.
The Sensation is getting ICS so I'm very sure the DHD will get it.
If you don't think so have more faith in devs on xda.
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in that 2 page thread it says
"New devices,i.e,Released after May 2011 will receive the updates prior to the old phones like Desire HD"
What that means? no ICS TO DHD? ?
did not understadn fully that thing there please explain?
All I want, and so many other people, is a taste of ICS, Just a test drive, I'm not asking for daily use, and the expression "left out" is referring to the SDK roms coming out, not the official source code or official release of ICS.
Just want to see some progress to a flashable ICS port, and now I am seeing that over at the development forum so this is good.
This may a ridiculous question (sorry in advance) but would any port of ICS still have the SRS settings for the music player?
Pruikki said:
in that 2 page thread it says
"New devices,i.e,Released after May 2011 will receive the updates prior to the old phones like Desire HD"
What that means? no ICS TO DHD? ?
did not understadn fully that thing there please explain?
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It means the newer phones will get it first.
Related
So I've been messing around trying to see what I can get going on the froyo front and I'm running into some problems....
first off, froyo isn't a huge fan of the galaxy s hardware...in AVD, when I create the profile in terms of the captivate hardware and it is buggy even in emulation...this doesn't bode well for actual hardware use. Maybe I'm just really bad at development but I dunno...
So secondly, on the phone itself I thought i'd try to just send over the image to see if the phone would even accept it. While the bootloader seems to be fine and not too worried about accepting an image (the touchwiz 2.1) it doesn't want to accept the buggy froyo.
So i've given it some shots, but its gonna take someone or a group of people who're smarter than me to see why the bootloader isn't really unlocked and why the avd doesn't like the galaxy s hardware specifications
I brought up the possibility of not being able to run Froyo without it being officially released by Samsung first on the Phandroid forums and repeatedly was assured that it'd only be a matter of time until Froyo was released on it.
This is disappointing
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I brought up the possibility of not being able to run Froyo without it being officially released by Samsung first on the Phandroid forums and repeatedly was assured that it'd only be a matter of time until Froyo was released on it.
This is disappointing
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well it should work without it being specifically released (see aria, and every old HTC) but for some reason it's not. I'm probably just doing something wrong... i was a WM dev then an iPhone dev, I'm just learning the whole android development stuff
Read up on behold 2 development on androidforums.com and Eugene_ 373's forum on androidspin.com its very similar in structure to the galaxy s brand of phones. You can't expect Samsung phones and HTC phones to be in anyway simular. They use different file systems and partitions. So it is not a cut and paste job you need to do some heavy hacking.
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Read up on behold 2 development on androidforums.com and Eugene_ 373's forum on androidspin.com its very similar in structure to the galaxy s brand of phones. You can't expect Samsung phones and HTC phones to be in anyway simular. They use different file systems and partitions. So it is not a cut and paste job you need to do some heavy hacking.
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Do you think it can be done? Will we see Froyo before Samsung releases it?
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Do you think it can be done? Will we see Froyo before Samsung releases it?
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I and pretty much everyone that has followed the behold 2 debacle on androidforums.com have major doubts but I still believe there is potential. That's as much as I can say because some people on here don't like the fact that I don't have the same blind optimism as they do.
Also here are some posts that might help
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=12840#post12840
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/63246-dev-needed-2-1-running-behold-2-a.html
Also I still might get a captivate if some good dev work is done. I don't need froyo before Samsung releases it and most of the added function provided by hacked and rooted roms can be added on to samsung roms. I am not getting a new phone for another month so if it looks like there is a lot of dev work done to this phone by then I will stay Samsung even though it might not get gingerbread.
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I and pretty much everyone that has followed the behold 2 debacle on androidforums.com have major doubts but I still believe there is potential. That's as much as I can say because some people on here don't like the fact that I don't have the same blind optimism as they do.
Also here are some posts that might help
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=12840#post12840
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/63246-dev-needed-2-1-running-behold-2-a.html
Also I still might get a captivate if some good dev work is done. I don't need froyo before Samsung releases it and most of the added function provided by hacked and rooted roms can be added on to samsung roms. I am not getting a new phone for another month so if it looks like there is a lot of dev work done to this phone by then I will stay Samsung even though it might not get gingerbread.
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Just doing a quick Twitter search for "iphone captivate" yields 80% of the peope tweeting something along the lines of leaving their iPhone 4 for a captivate. Lets hope the Dev's share the same thoughts.
Hey I would just like to know if the Galaxy S has something. Can you go into Apps managment and look for an app called "device managment"? If it's there and at 40+ mb's then that is a recovery rom. It is a duplicate of your starting rom. You can clear it most likely to regain space but after a reboot it will come back. There is another partition on the phone that stores the rom and the phone will run a check on boot up to make sure it's there. If not then it replaces it. It can be hacked out permanently but I know the Galaxy S doesn't really have any issues about storage space.
psychoace said:
I and pretty much everyone that has followed the behold 2 debacle on androidforums.com have major doubts but I still believe there is potential. That's as much as I can say because some people on here don't like the fact that I don't have the same blind optimism as they do.
Also here are some posts that might help
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=12840#post12840
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/63246-dev-needed-2-1-running-behold-2-a.html
Also I still might get a captivate if some good dev work is done. I don't need froyo before Samsung releases it and most of the added function provided by hacked and rooted roms can be added on to samsung roms. I am not getting a new phone for another month so if it looks like there is a lot of dev work done to this phone by then I will stay Samsung even though it might not get gingerbread.
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Very much apperciated, and the links were helpful on how this all will go down. This greatly changes on if I'll keep my Captivate. I know you should be happy with the phone you have, not the one you'll get, but I don't think I can stomach having a phone that won't be supported come Q4.
If the galaxy phones sell well it will be supported. They do have some phones that have gone from 1.5 to 2.1. Just don't expect any haste out of there crew
The fact that there will be an official release of 2.2 is whats keeping most devs from putting time into it. I know I wouldn't want to put a lot of effort into something just to have an official release come out before development is done.
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The fact that there will be an official release of 2.2 is whats keeping most devs from putting time into it. I know I wouldn't want to put a lot of effort into something just to have an official release come out before development is done.
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true...
I was just messing around with the sdk and whatnot and thought what the hell I have a spare I might as well try
but i guess it's above my head. I'm gonna keep reading up on it though, I'm not the best coder (my expertise lies in c++) but I can surely give it a shot
Phlip00ws6 said:
The fact that there will be an official release of 2.2 is whats keeping most devs from putting time into it. I know I wouldn't want to put a lot of effort into something just to have an official release come out before development is done.
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Tell that to Cyanogen and Avalaunchmods and Herver who are all making FroYo ROMs for the Evo.
This sucks. I was kinda looking into replacing my 9700 with the Captivate and keeping at&t and Sprint both...
Phlip00ws6 said:
The fact that there will be an official release of 2.2 is whats keeping most devs from putting time into it. I know I wouldn't want to put a lot of effort into something just to have an official release come out before development is done.
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wrong.
See above post and also thing about the nexus one. 2.2 was released via cyanogen before it was officially released to the public.
And why would you want the official release from Samsung, which would still have the ATT junk and TW3.0, I want STOCK.
andy2na said:
wrong.
See above post and also thing about the nexus one. 2.2 was released via cyanogen before it was officially released to the public.
And why would you want the official release from Samsung, which would still have the ATT junk and TW3.0, I want STOCK.
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Yeah being able to remove the bloatware and using launcher pro and some of the stock Android apps like music is nice but still having to leave any TouchWiz stuff there is annoying. It will be the same on the official release just with 2.2 so I don't see why there wouldn't already be development for a custom ROM for captivate based off the stock Froyo 2.2 straight from Google. In fact this reminds me that I need to keep reading up and playing around so I might be able to do something even though it would only be for future development.
I'm not as concerned about 2.2 as 3.0...
If someone can get 2.2 running on this, then it bodes well for getting 3.0 running on this as well.
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I'm not as concerned about 2.2 as 3.0...
If someone can get 2.2 running on this, then it bodes well for getting 3.0 running on this as well.
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This. I'd love to see Gingerbread on this phone.
When???
Have you already talked about it with HTC?
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When???
Have you already talked about it with HTC?
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Ok you need to breathe buddy, it's just been announced it will most probably take a month before it will be available on HTC as they need to incorporate Sense to it.
well if you recall the desire made the jump from 2.1 to 2.2 pretty soon after the 2.2 announcement, considering the DHD is the new flagship phone id imagine a very similar situation if not there is always custom roms
Wonder if cyanogen will publish it before htc that will be sweet
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The DHD will most likely be the first HTC handset to receive the update. However, how long this takes is anyone's guess. Then your carrier will modify the update, unless of course you got a stock unbranded DHD.
My money is on Cyanogen, real money. If CM releases 2.3 before HTC I'll donate again.
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If CM releases 2.3 before HTC I'll donate again.
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+1 me too
andyharney said:
The DHD will most likely be the first HTC handset to receive the update. However, how long this takes is anyone's guess. Then your carrier will modify the update, unless of course you got a stock unbranded DHD.
My money is on Cyanogen, real money. If CM releases 2.3 before HTC I'll donate again.
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me 2 well .. not again ... but just donate
It's only been released for developers apparently.
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It's only been released for developers apparently.
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from what i understand, the actual rom hasnt been released, just the sdk for app developers - but i might be wrong
panyan said:
from what i understand, the actual rom hasnt been released, just the sdk for app developers - but i might be wrong
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dont you compile the roms from the sdk ?, pretty sure all the android files are available in the sdk you just need to create a rom from them. (i think)
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dont you compile the roms from the sdk ?, pretty sure all the android files are available in the sdk you just need to create a rom from them. (i think)
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Nope, the roms can't be made until the source code is released or another device gets it to be ported over.
Roms can be made from the sdk but don't turn out very well to say the least.
I expect an announcement soon from HTC, i doubt they will let their flagship higher specs phone fall short against their direct competitor, classic desire was the first device to get froyo after the nexus
I'm betting on it being out around Christmas time,
Probably in 2 weeks we'll start to get them trickling out...
I hope that dhd will get it as soon as possible, but wouldn't be surprised if Samsung s get's it first considering cooperation of Google with them on new G phone.
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The DHD will most likely be the first HTC handset to receive the update. However, how long this takes is anyone's guess. Then your carrier will modify the update, unless of course you got a stock unbranded DHD.
My money is on Cyanogen, real money. If CM releases 2.3 before HTC I'll donate again.
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Me too. I haven't donated yet if this happens ill be sending beer money to the boys for sure
I only started using CM last-night and i am already in-love
kermez said:
I hope that dhd will get it as soon as possible, but wouldn't be surprised if Samsung s get's it first considering cooperation of Google with them on new G phone.
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Maybe... But then again, I doubt google let samsung anywhere near the software for the nexus s. At least, I sure wouldn't after the galaxy's "interesting" software decisions.
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I expect an announcement soon from HTC, i doubt they will let their flagship higher specs phone fall short against their direct competitor, classic desire was the first device to get froyo after the nexus
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Unfortunately the N1 was pretty much the same as the Desire. And was built by HTC. Now the situation is a little bit different having Google cooperating with the plastic-toy manufacturer . Then again I doubt Galaxy S will get 2.3 sooner than the DHD, because they got to 2.2 about a month ago.
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Unfortunately the N1 was pretty much the same as the Desire. And was built by HTC. Now the situation is a little bit different having Google cooperating with the plastic-toy manufacturer . Then again I doubt Galaxy S will get 2.3 sooner than the DHD, because they got to 2.2 about a month ago.
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Plus in all fairness we all kno that Samsung products are for females... lol DHd's are a man thing
Lol meh
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I'm not that fussed on gingerbread tbh. I have had sense since the hero but have tried many vanilla roms. Now you can change "skins" on the dhd and with not a huge increase in an already blistering device for me its not that important?
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anything new about Android 2.3 on the Desire HD?
Hi, how long do you think it will take to get a stableish or just usable for a daily driver cm8 (Ice cream sandwich) nightly for our galaxy s2 after ICS is released. I am holding off flashing and rooting until there is an ICS rom, as I don't want to wait like 6 months for Samsung to update. Thanks
Maybe you should hold off on stupid questions till CM7 is stable on SGS2.
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Maybe you should hold off on stupid questions till CM7 is stable on SGS2.
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It's not stupid at all, it's a fair enough question to ask, as a lot of people on this forum know what they are talking about , and will have some idea of how long it could take to develop a just usable rom. I wan't asking for a spesific time, I was wonder would it be with in 2 or 6 months to develop the rom. People could base the time on how long it has taken for cm7 to be ported and how long it took for cm7 and other roms to be ported to other device. But, seen as how I had a desire before this and got it after the stable cm7 was out, I don't know how long it takes to port roms, therefore it is a valid question to ask. Also instead of making annoying remarks, if you have nothing productive to say, do me a favor and zip it. If you didn't like the question they you should have just ignored it. But thanks for your reply
mods can we please ban the OP, and close this useless topic
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To the OP:
To put it nicer than most are on here so far...
There are just too many variables. No one knows when ICS will be out to start with, and no one knows what could happen after they start working on it.
Remoteconcern said:
To the OP:
To put it nicer than most are on here so far...
There are just too many variables. No one knows when ICS will be out to start with, and no one knows what could happen after they start working on it.
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Thanks very much for your answer
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To the OP:
To put it nicer than most are on here so far...
There are just too many variables. No one knows when ICS will be out to start with, and no one knows what could happen after they start working on it.
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Thanks,I was curious about this myself
You should know that the first rule of Cyanogenmod is never ask for an ETA.
Rumour has it that Google want ICS to be simultaneously released for all major devices i.e. every top end phone around the same time, so no fragmentation. I would guess that there will be an official SGS2 ICS rom before AOSP is released, or shortly after.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...ist-which-phones-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich/
So where's ICS for the Shift, HTC?
We might as well start getting on them now since they held out forever on the kernel source. The shift is so under rated still.
I don't really see us "officially" getting ICS. Like Sparksco said, the Shift is severely underappreciated.
I do know we have a couple devs working on it though...
I think its a very possible we will see one because
At first I would have said no way we would get it when HTC released Sense 3.0 which only supported Dual-Core devices. That would make you think any later version after 3.0 would also be a definite no and we will never see ICS (officially for the shift) and we know HTC will have to update Sense UI to a later version for ICS
But then again now HTC released Sense 3.5 on devices which is optimized to run on Single Core phones so now if they do update Sense it leaves room to think maybe their next iteration of sense will be compatible with lower end phones to (don't take that to context to much the shift IS very powerful)
We might also see an update like the EVO got when it recieved gingerbread. It got the firmware upgrade to gingerbread but HTC still kept it at 1.0
So their is always the possibility it could be our turn for that.
and now with the Handset alliance thing which HTC is apart of I believe, part of the ruling is you have to support a device for 18 months with latest updates as long as hardware allows.
If anything we know we will be waiting longer than most devices out there anyway if we do end up getting it. The phone is underappreciated a lot, just like the article says (to be honest I was suprised they even mentioned it)
But yea its basically time to start bugging HTC as much as we possibly can for some kind of update. I know I will start
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I don't really see us "officially" getting ICS. Like Sparksco said, the Shift is severely underappreciated.
I do know we have a couple devs working on it though...
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I love you crumpy but that wasn't the question!
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I love you crumpy but that wasn't the question!
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Haha.. well to answer your question.. Trololol away..
*puts on troll hat*
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*puts on troll hat*
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Let us know what they say and I'll also ask htcdev about it on twitter
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Let us know what they say and I'll also ask htcdev about it on twitter
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https://www.facebook.com/htcusa/posts/231659726902311
Official response from HTC USA on Facebook:
Hey guys. If you haven't seen our latest note on ICS, you can catch it here. http://on.fb.me/vSPMMr We will be announcing more phones later so just because it hasn't been announced yet doesn't mean that it won't be in the future.
Trolling HTC is utterly useless. They're not in charge of whether or not we get an official ICS update. If you must troll someone, troll Sprint. To that end, it's really not worth it IMO. Trolling for the kernel source was warranted, because GPL requires them to release it. They're not required to release ICS and honestly, I doubt they will when they could spend that time and money on more popular phones. I love my little shifty but am not in denial of it's popularity. Who really cares if we get an official update? Most of us would end up running a custom version of it anyway and at this rate, we'll see CM9 or other AOSP builds before long. Hell, toast already says he's got a source build running great, it's only a matter of time. Why pull your hair out waiting for an official update?
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Trolling HTC is utterly useless. They're not in charge of whether or not we get an official ICS update. If you must troll someone, troll Sprint. To that end, it's really not worth it IMO. Trolling for the kernel source was warranted, because GPL requires them to release it. They're not required to release ICS and honestly, I doubt they will when they could spend that time and money on more popular phones. I love my little shifty but am not in denial of it's popularity. Who really cares if we get an official update? Most of us would end up running a custom version of it anyway and at this rate, we'll see CM9 or other AOSP builds before long. Hell, toast already says he's got a source build running great, it's only a matter of time. Why pull your hair out waiting for an official update?
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Either way we're still waiting. The G1 and other older phones have a more working funtional rom or ICS then we do.
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HTCotta said:
Trolling HTC is utterly useless. They're not in charge of whether or not we get an official ICS update. If you must troll someone, troll Sprint. To that end, it's really not worth it IMO. Trolling for the kernel source was warranted, because GPL requires them to release it. They're not required to release ICS and honestly, I doubt they will when they could spend that time and money on more popular phones. I love my little shifty but am not in denial of it's popularity. Who really cares if we get an official update? Most of us would end up running a custom version of it anyway and at this rate, we'll see CM9 or other AOSP builds before long. Hell, toast already says he's got a source build running great, it's only a matter of time. Why pull your hair out waiting for an official update?
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Useless? We got GB kernel source code fairly quickly once we started trolling them. It is important we get an official update from HTC more than you know.
GB source code was always coming, we were quite literally entitled to it (GPL). This is not the case with an ICS update. I know that getting an official update helps immensely, but we're certainly not gonna get one by trolling HTC. It's Sprint's decision.
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Useless? We got GB kernel source code fairly quickly once we started trolling them. It is important we get an official update from HTC more than you know.
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Yes your right it is important that we get a official update. A new kernel could really help a lot even if it was a sense kernel.
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HTCotta said:
GB source code was always coming, we were quite literally entitled to it (GPL). This is not the case with an ICS update. I know that getting an official update helps immensely, but we're certainly not gonna get one by trolling HTC. It's Sprint's decision.
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It's not just sprints choice. It's a partnership between sprint and htc. We just need to express that we do want a official update to htc because htc will listen to us, and might come up with something with sprint. Sprint will not listen to us about a official update because all the do is tell htc which phones are more popular and which ones they think should get the updates first, and then htc goes on it's happy way to make a update. Meanwhile they throw in some of sprints apps (big deal). Htc does most of the work. They do all the kernels, and most of the rom development.
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So saw this on a tech news site I frequent, kind of jealous of them since I like Sense and will be sticking to ROMs based of that. But the 4.3 update will roll out for the Google Edition phones. At the very bottom of the article.
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Galaxy S4 and HTC One Google Play Editions will get the update soon, but no precise timeline was specified.
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The part with "no precise timeline was specified" makes me think of it like this:
Galaxy S4 and HTC One Google Play Editions will get the update eventually, since no precise timeline was specified.
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Try4Ce said:
The part with "no precise timeline was specified" makes me think of it like this:
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Chances are one of the AOSP rom's will have 4.3 out before HTC release their's for the GE edition.
daleski75 said:
Chances are one of the AOSP rom's will have 4.3 out before HTC release their's for the GE edition.
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I'd be willing to put my money on CyanogenMod or AOKP having 4.3 out first. However, the whole point of the Google Editions was to get an almost Nexus experience. If HTC takes more than two or three weeks, it's a complete fail.
I'm hoping to see it within a week, but I'm definitely not counting on it.
daleski75 said:
Chances are one of the AOSP rom's will have 4.3 out before HTC release their's for the GE edition.
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AOSP will be 100% faster than HTC / Google to update the GE for sure.
I am really curious about the 4.3 AOSP update, maybe some 4.2.2 AOSP bugs will get ironed out automatically since it has a bunch of driver updates and a new bluetooth stack (read -> BT incall issues).
blackroseMD1 said:
I'd be willing to put my money on CyanogenMod or AOKP having 4.3 out first. However, the whole point of the Google Editions was to get an almost Nexus experience. If HTC takes more than two or three weeks, it's a complete fail.
I'm hoping to see it within a week, but I'm definitely not counting on it.
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Totally agree anything but a very fast update from both Samsung or HTC will only further piss off customers who brought it thinking they would get more timely updates.
Nice and easy if you want the fastest updates get a nexus or a custom rom nothing else comes close imho.
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Try4Ce said:
AOSP will be 100% faster than HTC / Google to update the GE for sure.
I am really curious about the 4.3 AOSP update, maybe some 4.2.2 AOSP bugs will get ironed out automatically since it has a bunch of driver updates and a new bluetooth stack (read -> BT incall issues).
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If it fixes all the little bugs from 4.2.2 with bluetooth (my car does not like my One whatsoever!) then I for one will be very happy with that.
Support the cm compiler cm10.2 (Android 4.3)
Yes, but the AOSP ROMs are going to be very buggy and I cannot stand a ROM that is not perfect.
I need my phone to be reliable. Not messed up with bugs.
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The Project said:
Yes, but the AOSP ROMs are going to be very buggy and I cannot stand a ROM that is not perfect.
I need my phone to be reliable. Not messed up with bugs.
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This. Even when we get 4.3 AOSP ROMs they won't be solid until HTC releases the 4.3 kernel source, correct?
yea but its clearly not receiving the nexus treatment
regP said:
This. Even when we get 4.3 AOSP ROMs they won't be solid until HTC releases the 4.3 kernel source, correct?
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Exactly. I want a stock 4.3 kernel that "just works" and I don't want to worry about problems. I don't mind waiting a few weeks for it. 4.3 isn't even a big update.
I have a Google Edition and paying $640 for a phone, you'd expect them to at least have some kind of announcement of when that will be rolled out. If it will take weeks, I can deal with that, but not knowing is not making me happy either.
I knew going into it that it wouldn't be instant, but I also didn't expect it to be a non-existent date like any other update.
I'm strictly speaking OTA btw, and not custom roms.
Argenist said:
I have a Google Edition and paying $640 for a phone, you'd expect them to at least have some kind of announcement of when that will be rolled out. If it will take weeks, I can deal with that, but not knowing is not making me happy either.
I knew going into it that it wouldn't be instant, but I also didn't expect it to be a non-existent date like any other update.
I'm strictly speaking OTA btw, and not custom roms.
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If even 1 "stablish" 4.3 ROM is released before the official OTA you know by then that HTC has failed.
I'm sure we'll get it soon :good: I emailed HTC and they gave a generic response (as expected). But we'll just have to hold tight.
Dear Brandon,
Thank you for contacting HTC Tech support.
I am really happy to hear you belong to the HTC Family.
We know that the 4.3 software version was already released and we enthusiatclly can say that Google editions will be getting this update first than other devices.
Here at HTC we no longer announce dates in which the update will hit the devices, but we invite you to stay tuned for upcoming news. You can access www.htc.com or follow us through Facebook and Twitter.
Brandon, once again let me congratulate you for your HTC One Google edition. I wish you a wonderful day!
Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us through http://www.htc.com/us/contact/email/or call us at +1-866-449-8358 from 8AM to 1AM ET, 7 days a week.
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
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(HTC needs to invest in some spellcheck software)
killman2659 said:
If even 1 "stablish" 4.3 ROM is released before the official OTA you know by then that HTC has failed.
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+1
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bbedward said:
I'm sure we'll get it soon :good: I emailed HTC and they gave a generic response (as expected). But we'll just have to hold tight.
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At least they say that GE Ones will get 4.3 before Sense Ones. I assume it's less work for them given how similar the GE ROM is to the Nexus ROMs vs all the extra crap they have to update with Sense.
The question is how much HTC will prioritize the GE phones, given that it must be a small percentage of the Ones they sold (little do they know that quite a few of the "Sense" phones people bought have been converted to "GE" phones ).
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At least they say that GE Ones will get 4.3 before Sense Ones. I assume it's less work for them given how similar the GE ROM is to the Nexus ROMs vs all the extra crap they have to update with Sense.
The question is how much HTC will prioritize the GE phones, given that it must be a small percentage of the Ones they sold (little do they know that quite a few of the "Sense" phones people bought have been converted to "GE" phones ).
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If they are a serious company ... They check this site...they know
a box of kittens said:
If they are a serious company ... They check this site...they know
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Yeah, I was mostly kidding. My point is more that, while they probably know, they will act like they don't know (refuse to acknowledge or support converted phones).
Especially because they will have to make assumptions about the number of phones out there running Sense vs GE and will likely do that purely based on sales numbers (which don't take into account any converted phones).
The HTC One, will for sure be behind on updates considering the Nexus is the Google line. Nexus first then S4 then the One. Money market system.. we all know Apple and Samsung lead that pack.. HTC is behind Sammy. That's how I will see it coming.
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killman2659 said:
If even 1 "stablish" 4.3 ROM is released before the official OTA you know by then that HTC has failed.
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That's completely ridiculous. Even without having to adapt Sense or go through a kafka-esque certification process like Verizon certification, HTC still needs to perform integration testing before issuing the update. Any joe blow can hack together an untested build and put it out on the net.