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Can I root/overclock and NOT install a custom ROM?

I have an Eris running 2.1 OTA. I want to be able to overclock it, which obviously requires root, but I do not want to install a custom ROM. I want to continue running 2.1 OTA. Is this possible?
Based on what I've read, I figured it might be.
1) I thought I could follow the instructions in "I. Gaining root" at the Walkthrough thread on this site to root the phone. Simply rooting does not modify or wipe the 2.1 OTA ROM, correct? So I could be root but still running 2.1 OTA.
2) Flash the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip found in the "Overclocking Patch and update.zip" thread on this site, which would modify the kernel so I can O/C.
3) Install and use setCPU.
Any reason this would not work or would be a bad idea? I'm generally computer savvy but have not rooted a phone before.
As mentioned above, I want to be running stock 2.1 OTA (or as close to it as possible, because I want the stability) simply with the ability to overclock.
Thanks!

Now someone here correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the way I understand the rooting process...
When you obtain root, you flash over your 2.1 OTA, and don't have that anymore. What you're flashing is a pre-rooted ROM with an old 2.1. You absolutely want to flash something else once you install the recovery image. If you want a ROM that's as close to stock OTA as possilble while still being able to overclock, I recommend this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044 (or, actually, this one is closer to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685581)
Also, ensure that you can root in the first place... check your HBOOT version.

If you were to only root, you'd no longer be running OTA, since the root is itself a leak.
jcase's Plain Jane is based on the OTA and is probably what you're looking for.

No, you cannot do that. Rooting isn't simply turning on a switch, it's replacing the entire ROM.

chrikenn said:
I have an Eris running 2.1 OTA. I want to be able to overclock it, which obviously requires root, but I do not want to install a custom ROM. I want to continue running 2.1 OTA. Is this possible?
Based on what I've read, I figured it might be.
1) I thought I could follow the instructions in "I. Gaining root" at the Walkthrough thread on this site to root the phone. Simply rooting does not modify or wipe the 2.1 OTA ROM, correct? So I could be root but still running 2.1 OTA.
2) Flash the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip found in the "Overclocking Patch and update.zip" thread on this site, which would modify the kernel so I can O/C.
3) Install and use setCPU.
Any reason this would not work or would be a bad idea? I'm generally computer savvy but have not rooted a phone before.
As mentioned above, I want to be running stock 2.1 OTA (or as close to it as possible, because I want the stability) simply with the ability to overclock.
Thanks!
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Plain Jane ROM posted on this Forum would be ideal then I think

Ok, thanks for the information. I didn't realize that rooting itself replaced the stock ROM.

If you gave me your phone, I could root it and hand it back to you and with the "right" ROM, you'd be none the wiser.
Why are you afraid to use a custom ROM ? Ivan's, for example, is essentially a tweaked version of HTC/VZW's current Eris ROM.

I'm afraid to use a custom ROM because my instinct is that a custom ROM would be less stable than the default 2.1 OTA. This is my wife's phone, so stability is key.
But the ROMs that are essentially the same as the 2.1 OTA would presumably be essentially just as stable as the 2.1 OTA, so maybe I will give it a whirl.

so i just got a replcemnt htc eris and it came w/the 2.1 already on it...so is there a way for me to get a custom rom on it????and if so what do i have to do

drayon07 said:
so i just got a replcemnt htc eris and it came w/the 2.1 already on it...so is there a way for me to get a custom rom on it????and if so what do i have to do
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684049

Can't install custom kernal without root and can't root without stock 1.5. No root for ota yet
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thanks but which one do i select because i already have the 2.1 on my phone and the link was mainly talking about putting it on there if you didnt have it

thanks but which one do i select because i already have the 2.1 on my phone and the link was mainly talking about putting it on there if you didnt have it
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You can't root because your phone has 2.1. Therefore you cannot use custom Rom or kernel. Sorry
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You can't root because your phone has 2.1. Therefore you cannot use custom Rom or kernel. Sorry
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Where have you been???? You can root 2.1 OTA, just not any of the leaks. The instructions are the same for 2.1 as for 1.5. Again, you can root 2.1 OTA just not the leaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681648
and that is just one of many threads talking about rooting the OTA

abn75 said:
Where have you been???? You can root 2.1 OTA, just not any of the leaks. The instructions are the same for 2.1 as for 1.5. Again, you can root 2.1 OTA just not the leaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681648
and that is just one of many threads talking about rooting the OTA
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Yes, the 2.1 OTA update is rootable. The 2.1 OTA update does not change the bootloader which allows for rooting.
However, those that got a refurbished device from Verizon with 2.1 may or may not be able to root. It has been said that some of the refurbished units have come back with the newer non-rootable bootloader.
There is an entire thread about this at the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688898

Root and Gingerbread

Hi,
Before upgrading to Gingerbread, I would like to know if the root
for Gingerbread is working fine and if the phone is, after being rooted , stable.
Daniel

If anyone wants to give this a bash you could try Gingerbreak:
NB. Your phone MUST already have S-OFF if you don't want to have to downgrade first.!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765

I think you need to downgrade again before you can root your phone.
But in the development section there are stock 2.3 roms with root. Probably that's the right thing for you
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Hi guys. I installed the gingerbreak apk & ran it.
It said it didn't work so I ok'd it & exited the app without rebooting.
I opened gingerbreak again & it asked if I would allow super user permission. I said yes.
Is this when I downgrade? Or can I just put new ROM on sdcard and boot into bootloader & flash it?
Sorry guys, all this is pretty complex stuff to me

Hi Folks.
For me Gingerbreak ran flawlessly.
Came from stock rom 1.32.405.6 rooted. ENG. & Radio S-off.
Installed Stock Gingerbread OTA.
Set USB debugging on.
Download & install superuser from market.
Download & install Gingerbreak.
Run Gingerbreak.
Choose "Root device"
Done!
Took about 5 min. Not counting OTA upd. of course.
Regards.
ELO

I installed the gingerbreak apk & ran it.
Gingerbreak rebooted my device but it is still not rooted.
I have S-OFF, USB debugging on and have ibstalled Superuser.
I have tried it twice.
Any idea what to do?
I have just noticed that after having upgraded to Gingerbread, My phone became S-On . This is the reason why I can't root my phone
Daniel

problem with s-off
I have problems with the s-off procedure after upgrading to android 2.3 official.
Gingrbreak works and permits rooting programs, but I'm not able to flash any otrher rom.
Any ideas? What am I doing wrong?
Thank you

How to upgrade to gingerbread
Hello all
I am very new to these rooting/upgrading the mobile.
I have a DesireHD, i wanted to upgrade to gingerbread with a custom ROM.
Can someone tell me the procedure to upgrade.
Thanks
Satya

sathyaac said:
Hello all
I am very new to these rooting/upgrading the mobile.
I have a DesireHD, i wanted to upgrade to gingerbread with a custom ROM.
Can someone tell me the procedure to upgrade.
Thanks
Satya
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The information you need can easily be found in the guides on the forum, there is no need for us to hold your hand and guide you step-by-step through the whole procedure. That's what the guides are for. You need to educate yourself a bit as rooting and flashing etc. are for users with atleast some experience. We're not using iPhones here where iTunes and Apple do everything for you. This might sound a bit harsh but there are tons of people filling the forum and asking for other members here to practically do everything for them. I suggest that until you understand what rooting and flashing involves, you stay away from it.
Here's something to get you going: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936214

To obtain s-off and root with gingerbreak, these is the steps to do in order?
Root visionary-> S-off-> (Eng-off??) -> Gingerbreak, and finally clockwork recovery
But visionary is working with 2.3.3 stock htc?

jackalac said:
To obtain s-off and root with gingerbreak, these is the steps to do in order?
Root visionary-> S-off-> (Eng-off??) -> Gingerbreak, and finally clockwork recovery
But visionary is working with 2.3.3 stock htc?
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Check the link that I posted earlier...

ajay83 said:
Hi guys. I installed the gingerbreak apk & ran it.
It said it didn't work so I ok'd it & exited the app without rebooting.
I opened gingerbreak again & it asked if I would allow super user permission. I said yes.
Is this when I downgrade? Or can I just put new ROM on sdcard and boot into bootloader & flash it?
Sorry guys, all this is pretty complex stuff to me
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You actually rooted it when it asked for Super User permission, when it didn't ask the first time around, that's because SuperUser was installed by GingerBreak.

Request: How to Update to Generic 2.3 from Custom ROM

I am guessing this might be coming from someone once it's released, but it's been a while since I played with my phone and I'm not that tech savy on the latest on these as things are constantly moving/changing.
I'm running a 2.2 Custom ROM and would like to upgrade to the stock generic 2.3 GB once it's released and I have no clue as to the best way to do this. So once it's out, if we can get a decent step by step how to, that would be great.
Thank you.

i would say use the flashtool thread in the dev section, flash a world generic rom and the corresponding baseband. don't root it or anything like that.
sign in, then connect to pc companion and see if the update hits.

Flash stock 2.1 firmware
update your x10 thru SE software

ensure your phone is rooted and xrecovery installed then wait for pre-rooted gb update to come out on here. It will be almost certainly simply bea case of flashing kernal and baseband using flashtool and custom update using xrecovery.
i certainly would not recommend flashing your phone back to stock 2.1 roms at this point in time - if you update to stock gingerbread then rooting may become more tricky and you may well have to go back to 2.1 rooted before you can get a rooted gingerbread - we simply dont know what security fixes will be included in the gingerbread update - so we dont know how easy it will be to root it once you have updated to stock 2.3

step 1. wait for the rom to launch
step 2. go to the gingerbread thread and read!!
step 3. read before posting the same question that's been asked thousands of times already!!

Do you guys know 2.3 update is out?
http://androidos.in/2011/07/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-gingerbread-update-rolling-out-now/

lekhwani said:
Do you guys know 2.3 update is out?
http://androidos.in/2011/07/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-gingerbread-update-rolling-out-now/
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Read this.
step 2. go to the gingerbread thread and read!!
step 3. read before posting the same question that's been asked thousands of times already!!
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Then read the stickey in the general section.
Then read the Product Blog.
The 2.3.3 update HAS NOT been rolled out!!!
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lekhwani said:
Do you guys know 2.3 update is out?
http://androidos.in/2011/07/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-gingerbread-update-rolling-out-now/
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you might want to read here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186953

Phantasm4489 said:
ensure your phone is rooted and xrecovery installed then wait for pre-rooted gb update to come out on here. It will be almost certainly simply bea case of flashing kernal and baseband using flashtool and custom update using xrecovery.
i certainly would not recommend flashing your phone back to stock 2.1 roms at this point in time - if you update to stock gingerbread then rooting may become more tricky and you may well have to go back to 2.1 rooted before you can get a rooted gingerbread - we simply dont know what security fixes will be included in the gingerbread update - so we dont know how easy it will be to root it once you have updated to stock 2.3
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I'm going for this route as well, wait for a flashtools rootable 2.3. But i don't think it will take much long, the x10 gingerbread rom is based on the one SE worked for the Arc and that was rooted pretty quickly, no?
For those still with stock 2.1 i can understand all the excitement, but for me, i've been using a custom rom with basically the same UI and features for a while, I can wait a little longer.

They were only able to root arc/play/neo 2.3.2 they are still working on a way to root 2.3.3 so far no luck.
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thatsupnow said:
They were only able to root arc/play/neo 2.3.2 they are still working on a way to root 2.3.3 so far no luck.
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If you are referring to using an easy one-click method to root, then yes you are correct.
But there are other ways to achieve root on 2.3.3 which involves flashing.

hush66 said:
If you are referring to using an easy one-click method to root, then yes you are correct.
But there are other ways to achieve root on 2.3.3 which involves flashing.
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Yeah, I was reading the post 2 above this one swearing & shaking my fists, because I'm running j's 2.3.3 rooted rom right now....2.3.3 can be rooted, it's just gonna be a little while before it's a one-click. That's always how it goes
Now that arc, neo, play & x10 are all gonna be 2.3.3, maybe it'll get the ball rolling a little faster on one-click solutions. We do have the largest Xperia dev community in the X10 section, afterall

We can simply "repair" the phone with SEUS. SEUS will download the last version for your device and install it automatically.

Gugoo said:
We can simply "repair" the phone with SEUS. SEUS will download the last version for your device and install it automatically.
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maybe, but only with an unrooted, unbranded generic 2.1 rom SE says to use PCC, which means it will most likely be available for SEUS, too (IIRC, they use the exact same database for the rom updates)

Good info so far. I might sell my phone (or lend it to a friend) and it would obviously sell best with an OEM 2.3 unlocked ROM which is assumingly bug-free for the most part.
So SEUS looks at what is currently on the phone and repairs it to that?

cwepruk said:
Good info so far. I might sell my phone (or lend it to a friend) and it would obviously sell best with an OEM 2.3 unlocked ROM which is assumingly bug-free for the most part.
So SEUS looks at what is currently on the phone and repairs it to that?
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SEUS does the same thing PCC does, but it actually works every time like it should
It reflashes your firmware....and it's saved my ass many, many times If it weren't for SEUS I'd have a bricked phone at least a dozen times over lulz

To update direct to 2.3.3 offical just flash my ftf with flashtool
link below

wesvista said:
To update direct to 2.3.3 offical just flash my ftf with flashtool
link below
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is this the official stock UK 2.3.3 rom?

check the dev section, everyone
doomlord uploaded a flashable pre-rooted GB, not as easy as one-click-root but it's here

root x-play 2.3.3 A.0...386 without unlock bootloader

hi
is there any way to root xperia plat 2.3.3 A.....386 without unlocking boot loader
or , i have to unlock it , cause gigngerbreak 1.2 is not working on xperia play.
or can i unlock ==> root ==> relock and , have lock and rooted xperia play ?if i do that , maybe hurt the bootloader ? (( damaged bootloader )) ?
i think that is global question and appreciated for anyone that answer it

if you dont want to unlock the bootloader, you will have to downgrade to 3....145 (i think it ends in 145) and straight after first boot, before doing anything else, run gingerbreak, and then you can upgrade via OTA. if .368 is available for ota, that is. personally, i'd unlock bootloader and either install doomlords kernel or run the fastboot CWR module. main difference being (just an assumption), if you just run the cwr method, you can then relock the bootloader after updating
here's the fastboot recovery. if you use it, please remember that you must NOT flash this one. it is purely a run once method. and you can then keep the stock kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130639

solitarymonkey said:
if you dont want to unlock the bootloader, you will have to downgrade to 3....145 (i think it ends in 145) and straight after first boot, before doing anything else, run gingerbreak, and then you can upgrade via OTA. if .368 is available for ota, that is. personally, i'd unlock bootloader and either install doomlords kernel or run the fastboot CWR module. main difference being (just an assumption), if you just run the cwr method, you can then relock the bootloader after updating
here's the fastboot recovery. if you use it, please remember that you must NOT flash this one. it is purely a run once method. and you can then keep the stock kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130639
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thank you so much for your help .
i've did this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098131 before and worked prefect , but i hear that SE want to deploy a new update , i flashed and relocked my phone again tu access SEUS.
but my question is , if i unlock and root my phone , then relock it via fast boot , after relocking root will remove/disapear or still working ??
if still working , so that is best way to have root xperia play and use sontericsson update service.
i apppreciated again if somebody update me on this case .
thanks

i believe you will still have root access after re-locking the bootloader. but whether you will still have root after updating via seus, i honestly dont know. but to be fair, the speed the guys on this forum work at, you will probably have access to a flashtool compatible update before you know it's even out

hang on, you got an R800x?

The only way to preserve root when updating is OTA.
Regards Dousan...

solitarymonkey said:
if you dont want to unlock the bootloader, you will have to downgrade to 3....145 (i think it ends in 145) and straight after first boot, before doing anything else, run gingerbreak, and then you can upgrade via OTA. if .368 is available for ota, that is. personally, i'd unlock bootloader and either install doomlords kernel or run the fastboot CWR module. main difference being (just an assumption), if you just run the cwr method, you can then relock the bootloader after updating
here's the fastboot recovery. if you use it, please remember that you must NOT flash this one. it is purely a run once method. and you can then keep the stock kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130639
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solitarymonkey said:
hang on, you got an R800x?
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i have R800X = xperia play , 2.3.3 , 4.0.... 386
what do you mean ?

Dousan said:
The only way to preserve root when updating is OTA.
Regards Dousan...
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greetings
yes , that is OTA ,
but after relock can i keep the root option ? and update via SEUS ?
open it : http://www.xperiablog.net/
fantastic man

the r800x is a tad different in methods, and i'll be a little more cautious on my advice for you. but i can confirm that root remains after OTA update, as i had to use this method a few weeks ago, before i had my fastboot activated. but remember, bootloader must be re-locked before any official update methods (sorry if i keep repeating this, i just get paranoid in a protective way)
and regarding the blog you linked. they said last year that the x10 will not be officially updated above 2.1. a few months later, after the play, arc and neo came out, they changed their mind. twice. not only did they say that they were gonna give us (i was a x10 owner up until last month) gingerbread with just stock android apps, they then ended up releasing 2.3 with optimised sony ericsson versions of some apps, like the camera so dont believe things too early

Dousan said:
The only way to preserve root when updating is OTA.
Regards Dousan...
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solitarymonkey said:
the r800x is a tad different in methods, and i'll be a little more cautious on my advice for you. but i can confirm that root remains after OTA update, as i had to use this method a few weeks ago, before i had my fastboot activated. but remember, bootloader must be re-locked before any official update methods (sorry if i keep repeating this, i just get paranoid in a protective way)
and regarding the blog you linked. they said last year that the x10 will not be officially updated above 2.1. a few months later, after the play, arc and neo came out, they changed their mind. twice. not only did they say that they were gonna give us (i was a x10 owner up until last month) gingerbread with just stock android apps, they then ended up releasing 2.3 with optimised sony ericsson versions of some apps, like the camera so dont believe things too early
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you right .
and i had xperia mini 2 month ago , i can remember what SE have done with us on that . just 2.1 ...
ok , i'll root my phone again , relock it and check via SEUS if that working or not , i hope that it work
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oh god , please help me don't brick my beauty xperia play

mehdi.moha said:
greetings
yes , that is OTA ,
but after relock can i keep the root option ? and update via SEUS ?
open it : http://www.xperiablog.net/
fantastic man
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I think you should ask these questions in the r800x dev thread as there would be a bigger chance for some clear yes or no answers. I haven't read that thread and as @solitarymonkey says the r800x rooting and unlocking is a tad different to the r800i, so can't really advice in that direction on wether you'll stay rooted and if you can just relock and update through SEUS as on the r800i. Just take a look in the dev section and you'll find the thread about r800x
Regards Dousan...

just be careful with your root if you use seus. if you can do ota, please do so, as root retention is tried and tested (on the r800i, and i'm guessing the r800a, too)

ok , thanks my friends
my phone is R800 i , i've rooted that 2 weeks ago and turnd it back to SE stock just for next update .
thank you again

Is it possible to use GingerBreak on the 3.0 ROM, then use SE PC Companion to update to the 4.0 ROM and keep root? My carrier doesn't do OTA updates so I can't use it.

I've heard that it breaks root when done over seus. But I haven't tried it out myself to verify. The worst you can do is try, lose root, and reflash the previous fw with flashtool and get root back.
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Is it possible to backup my own "old" firmware?

If you mean the whole system image. You will need the bootloader unlocked and use the clockwork recovery fastboot tool to create a nand backup. Or you can download one of many back up apps from the market that can create back ups of your apps and data.
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Kaikz said:
Is it possible to use GingerBreak on the 3.0 ROM, then use SE PC Companion to update to the 4.0 ROM and keep root? My carrier doesn't do OTA updates so I can't use it.
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The only way to preserve root when updating is OTA.
Regards Dousan...
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Using SEUS or PC Companion is the same as flashing with flashtool. You'll get a fresh and clean install of the firmware and everything get's eraesed in that process (nothing get's touched on the sdcard)
Regards Dousan...

Kaikz said:
Is it possible to use GingerBreak on the 3.0 ROM, then use SE PC Companion to update to the 4.0 ROM and keep root? My carrier doesn't do OTA updates so I can't use it.
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gingerbreak is not working on 2.3.3 ,
we should unlock the bootloader , ther root it , thern relock it and wait for new update via OTA/ pc companion / SE update service .
there is another way , i've read this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090&page=3
but i think it's better to DON't downgrade the x-play , cause most of people on that post had problem .
i want to start new way : unlock== > root ==> relock (( i hope after relock my root remain ))

All your looking for is root?
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Help? 2.2 vs 2.3.3 vs 2.3.4?!?

Okay, so bare with me. I am still on 2.2 running visionary r13 one touch and oc'd. I haven't messed with my phone since last year and this is as far as I got and was completely satisfied running this setup.
I have had the 2.3.3 ota hit my phone but I didn't install yet. When I researched a bit, it seems that many people are getting 2.3.4. Will I have to install 2.3.3 first and I will get an immediate OTA for 2.3.4? Furthermore, if I install 2.3.3, or 2.3.4, how will I go about oc'ing my phone again? I'm assuming there might not be an easy 1 touch root available. I'm limited to my abilities and found visionary 1 touch convenient and easy. Any help for a noob would be great!

liberalswine said:
Okay, so bare with me. I am still on 2.2 running visionary r13 one touch and oc'd. I haven't messed with my phone since last year and this is as far as I got and was completely satisfied running this setup.
I have had the 2.3.3 ota hit my phone but I didn't install yet. When I researched a bit, it seems that many people are getting 2.3.4. Will I have to install 2.3.3 first and I will get an immediate OTA for 2.3.4? Furthermore, if I install 2.3.3, or 2.3.4, how will I go about oc'ing my phone again? I'm assuming there might not be an easy 1 touch root available. I'm limited to my abilities and found visionary 1 touch convenient and easy. Any help for a noob would be great!
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well once you ota, you need to root your phone again before you can oc. also you need to ota to 2.3.3 before 2.3.4. also DO NOT USE VISIONARY, it will brick your phone

Try gfree to root ur phone!
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I would personally recommend that you first properly root your phone using the wiki method (gfree). Then you can flash a pre-rooted OTA update. That way you'll keep root but also be on the latest software.

possible to "gfree" (root) even 2.3.3 stock?
martonikaj said:
I would personally recommend that you first properly root your phone using the wiki method (gfree). Then you can flash a pre-rooted OTA update. That way you'll keep root but also be on the latest software.
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I have official OTA 2.3.3 so does the wiki method (gfree) applies even for me? Or there's no-one that been able to root 2.3.3 version?
If the root has been done, can you please provide me with the links? Thank you.

Ok, so i pretty much need to uninstall visionary, install ota 1.3.3, install ota 1.3.4, and the finally perma root, then I can run oc?

cowgaR said:
I have official OTA 2.3.3 so does the wiki method (gfree) applies even for me? Or there's no-one that been able to root 2.3.3 version?
If the root has been done, can you please provide me with the links? Thank you.
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If you're currently on the 2.3.3 OTA update, you'll first have to downgrade to 2.2, then achieve root with the gfree method, then go back to 2.3.3 with a pre-rooted ROM. Info I believe has made it into the wiki, but you may have to search some of the recent threads in here also.

do not update to 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 unless already rooted on froyo. There still is no official rooting method for those ota's. You will have to downgrade, root, s-off etc then flash a pre-rooted stock rom...or any rom for that matter. I am running completely stock 2.3.4 pre rooted and it runs great! Also as far as i know you do not need to move from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 you can go straight to 2.3.4. Also As far as i understand it t-mo messed up and labeled the update as 2.3.3 but it was really 2.3.4 once applied.

liberalswine said:
Ok, so i pretty much need to uninstall visionary, install ota 1.3.3, install ota 1.3.4, and the finally perma root, then I can run oc?
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uninstall visionary, follow wiki to root, s-off, supercid (sim unlock) install clockworkrecovery and eng hboot. sounds like alot but gfree does it all in one shot. then your free to flash any pre rooted ota, or cm7, whatever you choose. and you wont brick your device...
hope this helped.
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Only use visionary for temp root!! Use the no adb in the sticky it worked great on my 2.2 ota. It really was painless I did it att work! Lol just pay attention to the spaces in terminal emulator.
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killj0y said:
Only use visionary for temp root!! Use the no adb in the sticky it worked great on my 2.2 ota. It really was painless I did it att work! Lol just pay attention to the spaces in terminal emulator.
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Sorry but this is bad advice. You shouldn't be using visionary for temp root either. It is unnecessary.

Well I'm just stating what I did. I just followed the sticky thread and out went without a hitch. Figured that it was there because it was a trusted method. Oh well, sorry it worked for me lol.
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killj0y said:
Well I'm just offering my advice sorry. I just followed the sticky thread and out went without a hitch. Figured that it was there because it was a trusted method. Oh well, sorry it worked for me lol.
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I agree that if you do use Visionary, it should only be used for temp and not perm root, but there are plenty of ways to root without visionary, and there's no need to mess with it.