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Do not apply PART2 OTA 2.1 update - If you need root.

I would like to remind ppl, because many of you didn't think about...
If you will apply, 2.1 OTA update, on your 1.5, you will LOOSE ability to root. Don't be fools, and wait until you get "official" rooted 2.1, then flash it by yourself.
Please someone make it more clear if possible...
...But 2.1 official cannot be rooted, after update.
So turn off your Update check on your phone, and wait until there will be 2.1 rooted.
P.S
Looks like there is possibility to downgrade from OTA 2.1!! Omg

May I ask why HEOR upgraded to official 2.1 OTA couldn't be rooted??
It is temporary unable or permanently??

Can you substantiate this claim? Proof that the instantroot method (using the package installer's privileges) does not work on 2.1 for instance?

@iholleh
It's not possible to root at the moment, it could be quite a while before someone figures out how to root it if its already on a device, however if its looked at enough I'm sure they will do it. when its officially released it will be rooted very quickly to be flashed as a zip.

good to know...thanks for hte info!

duck0 said:
Can you substantiate this claim? Proof that the instantroot method (using the package installer's privileges) does not work on 2.1 for instance?
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The problem is you can't say one way or the other.. so if root is important to you then you are better off waiting.
Sent from my HTC Hero

Wezternator said:
@iholleh
It's not possible to root at the moment, it could be quite a while before someone figures out how to root it if its already on a device, however if its looked at enough I'm sure they will do it. when its officially released it will be rooted very quickly to be flashed as a zip.
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Thx bro! I just upgraded to 2.1 OTA and trying to downgrade to 1.5, failed however...
Wait for good news

I think we need to make clear. What to do if.
I installed the first package (First OTA, PART 1, Youtube App update)?
Like I heard in develop, if I installed part 1 update, this stupid youtube update, i need downgrade.
I don't really understand why, and how to do that. I think many of noobs like me are interested, what to do now.
I have promted by my phone that 2.1 update is realeased, and I did not downlnoad it, because I would like to have root, to install in a future Android 2.2, etc.
If so, and i have Firmware build number 2.73.405.93, or 2.73.405.94, or 2.73.405.95. What should I do?
Please someone, write step by step action guide.
(Downgrade, root, install rooted 2.1?) If so, how exactly?
I also understand that, there is 100000000000 of guides out there, but IMHO we need new one for a while.
Situation with "not installed" OTA part 1 is little bit easier? Normal ROOT, and install for coocked, and rooted official 2.1?

polakscot said:
The problem is you can't say one way or the other.. so if root is important to you then you are better off waiting.
Sent from my HTC Hero
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I guess so, but how likely is it that the hero's 2.1 firmware is different in this regard from anything else? A quick google confirmed that the InstantRoot method works on nexus one and motorola droid.
Edit: But a little longer google had me wondering if it does work on 2.1 again. Sorry, I should check more carefully. If anyone has tried it do step up.

Check out dev. section. Looks like there is way to downgrade.
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shadow_fi said:
Check out dev. section. Looks like there is way to downgrade.
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Correct, just run the RUU

can confirm, this works ...

What if I want to root it up to 2.2 (Froyo) that would be fine because it is like you are upgrading to newer firmware?

Hi i just have a stupid question :
i'm quite lost with all the stuffs about the 2.1 update :
i have a 1.5 stock rooted rom on my hero.
i would like to update to 2.1 but keep the root thing.
and i want not to wipe my phone
So what i undestand is :
- if i update : i'm not root anymore and won't be able to do it with the 2.1
- if i want to be 2.1+root i have to use a full rom (rooted) to have both but i have to wipe my phone.
Is that right ?
Is there or will it be a way to have an update (not wiping phone), in 2.1, and with root maintained from my 1.5 ??
Thanx for help.. i don't what to do with this ota update...
Ciao
Fred

frederikk said:
Hi i just have a stupid question :
i'm quite lost with all the stuffs about the 2.1 update :
i have a 1.5 stock rooted rom on my hero.
i would like to update to 2.1 but keep the root thing.
and i want not to wipe my phone
So what i undestand is :
- if i update : i'm not root anymore and won't be able to do it with the 2.1
- if i want to be 2.1+root i have to use a full rom (rooted) to have both but i have to wipe my phone.
Is that right ?
Is there or will it be a way to have an update (not wiping phone), in 2.1, and with root maintained from my 1.5 ??
Thanx for help.. i don't what to do with this ota update...
Ciao
Fred
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No... You are going to have to root.
But you can just back-up with something like MyBackUp-Pro

Ok but i silo bave to root what? The 2.1 updated phone? But i understood or is not possible yet ? For the backup dors à android one is ok?
Thanx
Ciao
Fred
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andrewb84uk said:
Correct, just run the RUU
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what do you meen visit dev section?what is dev section?thanks.

frederikk said:
Ok but i will bave to root what ? The 2.1 updated phone? But i understood or is not possible yet ? For the backup dors à android one is ok?
Thanx
Ciao
Fred
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I think i don't understand.
I'm with 1.5 rooted phone. If i update, i will be with a 2.1 phone non rooted. But is it possible to root the 2.1 ? I already have the boot menu with ramon ra recovery. So the update won't touch it ?
But in fact i change the date to june 2011 on my phone yesterday.. and i have no update notification
Ciao
Fred

shadow_fi said:
I would like to remind ppl, because many of you didn't think about...
If you will apply, 2.1 OTA update, on your 1.5, you will LOOSE ability to root. Don't be fools, and wait until you get "official" rooted 2.1, then flash it by yourself.
Please someone make it more clear if possible...
...But 2.1 official cannot be rooted, after update.
So turn off your Update check on your phone, and wait until there will be 2.1 rooted.
P.S
Looks like there is possibility to downgrade from OTA 2.1!! Omg
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I might be out of subject and truely I know nothing about rooting but I know by fact that downgrading from official 2.1 to official 1.5 took about 15 minutes to proceed on my unlocked Hero today..

Best Rooting Method

So since as if we have already been abandoned by the Gingerbreak Project, what can you guys recommend to root my R800i without removing the ability to update the phone to higher Android in the coming months?
So you see I am really new to Android and I have little knowledge on unlocking bootloaders and the like that's why I stuck to Gingerbreak last month. Now that I have updated to 2.3.3, yeah everybody knows Gingerbreak no longer works.
I cannot consider reverting back to 2.3.2 since the 2.3.3 update really improved the battery performance and I'd still choose that over the ability to root on the 2.3.2. But then, bottom line is we really love our phones rooted.
So to cut the crap, anyone please recommend the best method to root the R800i (I would be open for tutorials) whilst preserving our ability to update to better versions in the future?

Ive not rooted or unlocked the boot loader yet myself as this is my first android device im taking it slowly but according to threads in the development section you can root and upgrade as long as you do nothing to the device before upgrading, root the phone then upgrade to 2.3.3
This means flashing backwards first obviously.
As far as upgrading in the future you will be better off flashing a custom rom if development goes well. Custom roms will take this device further than official updates will.
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narflynn619 said:
So since as if we have already been abandoned by the Gingerbreak Project, what can you guys recommend to root my R800i without removing the ability to update the phone to higher Android in the coming months?
So you see I am really new to Android and I have little knowledge on unlocking bootloaders and the like that's why I stuck to Gingerbreak last month. Now that I have updated to 2.3.3, yeah everybody knows Gingerbreak no longer works.
I cannot consider reverting back to 2.3.2 since the 2.3.3 update really improved the battery performance and I'd still choose that over the ability to root on the 2.3.2. But then, bottom line is we really love our phones rooted.
So to cut the crap, anyone please recommend the best method to root the R800i (I would be open for tutorials) whilst preserving our ability to update to better versions in the future?
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See here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090. Follow the steps and you shall have root on 2.3.3 . I have also opted to "freeze" the bloat this time instead of just uninstalling it, in hopes that when 2.3.4 arrives i can do the ota update again and still keep root.
Also @ -josh- rooting will not damage your phone so its safe to root. I am also a first time android user myself but following the steps in the thread above worked fine no problems. And even if it didnt you can use SEUS to fix a phone with a locked bootloader

I rooted my phone when i was using 2.3.2 and found a good improvement.
Then i updated to an unrooted 2.3.3.
Ive left it unrooted for now. 2.3.3 performance is better than a rooted 2.3.2 i find.
It would be nice to root and remove the bloatwarw and overclock to 1.5 ghz, which can now be done. But for now i am happy.
Aside from a few Gameloft games not working, 2.3.3 is outstanding.
Not going to root until something major happens. Only reason i can see to root is to clock to 1.5 ghz to get n64oid working better.
Other than that, no point imo.

i have already tried the 2.3.2 root then flash to 2.3.3 method to no avail.. i don't know what im doing wrong but i think it's because my handset's a HK one, had it bought by someone in HK then i am using it here in the philippines. i'm not considering flashing custom roms either since i can't trust others' hands playing around roms, hehehe.. sigh!

You can are not supposed to flash to 2.3.3.. You are supposed to flash your phone to 2.3.2 uk generic version. After root your phone and through your phone you go to settings /about/update software and upgrade it there without hooking it to the computer. Make sure that your bootloader is LOCKED, otherwise you brick your phone.
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All gameloft games work with 2.3.3. Delete all the data files in game/gameloft and redownload all the games. It will work
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yah yah yah yah i did all that before and still nothing..

Deoxlar said:
All gameloft games work with 2.3.3. Delete all the data files in game/gameloft and redownload all the games. It will work
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I uninstalled all my non-working gameloft games.
Anyway i can get them back without purchasing them again?
narflynn619 said:
i have already tried the 2.3.2 root then flash to 2.3.3 method to no avail.. i don't know what im doing wrong but i think it's because my handset's a HK one, had it bought by someone in HK then i am using it here in the philippines. i'm not considering flashing custom roms either since i can't trust others' hands playing around roms, hehehe.. sigh!
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Use this to get to 2.3.3 unrooted. Everything will be put back to stock.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/sup...ds/subject/updateservice/1.915711?cc=gb&lc=en

Yes go to the website on the stock android browser, enter your phone number. All games purchased for your business device will be there for one year.
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narflynn619 said:
yah yah yah yah i did all that before and still nothing..
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You are clearly doing something wrong, the only phone that can't be rooted is the version version of the play.
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Deoxlar said:
Yes go to the website on the stock android browser, enter your phone number. All games purchased for your business device will be there for one year.
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Thanks for this info.
Unfortunately it didnt work for me. I only have one game in the list which was Asphalt 6.
Ive bought about half of them so there should be plenty more in the list but they are not there.
Ive emailed customer service. Not really that bothered if i get them back or not but i wanted to play Sacred Odessy again. It stopped working when i updated to 2.3.3.
Nevermind.

Don't email them. Call them. Email takes more then a week for each reply. Calling us 10 minutes wait
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sheise. i've been on 2.3.3 unrooted for weeks now and i'm sick of the bloatware... flashing a 2.3.2 UK generic ROM via FlashTool gives back an error that's why i stuck to 2.3.3 unrooted..
EDIT:
oh well, the root-the-2.3.2-then-update-to-2.3.3-via-OTA method suddenly worked today.. sheise!

Does flashing the phone complete erase everything?

crimsonnight said:
Does flashing the phone complete erase everything?
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It's better if you choose to erase personal files.. It's an option that you check off before flash. That being said, nothing on your sd card gets touched.
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so everyone still uses FlashTool? it gives me back an error so i used WotanClient. Worked like a charm! I'm now on 2.3.3 UK Generic ROOTED! and works like anything else here in the philippines!

Deoxlar said:
It's better if you choose to erase personal files.. It's an option that you check off before flash. That being said, nothing on your sd card gets touched.
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Thanks, so if I want there's an option to keep all my data/settings? Basically I could flash a rooted version of 2.3.3 onto my xperia play running 2.3.3? Cheers

Root after upgrading on 2.3.3

Hi,
I just want to know if with the 2.3.3 the root process is diffrent, or just do the same thing as the old 2.2.1.
Anyone as already tried?

funny story its non existent, it cant be rooted and wont be for a very long time if ever

I think you're wrong, cause maybe just needs to downgrade the firmware as usual.
But I need someone who already did it.

if you can figure out how to downgrade it, go ahead. But as of yet, there's no way to root the official gingerbread update.
-Nipqer

And how about the "goldcard" ? create one, and then install just lower version via recovery or something... I've read somewhere that u can install lower builds of OTA and then root the phone ... will that work? or i just missed something during lecture...

I believe that the desire hd gingerbread update has been rooted by means of downgrading. We just need to wait for someone to figure it out for us DZ users
Sent from a phone that is not a HTC Desire Z

m3don3 said:
And how about the "goldcard" ? create one, and then install just lower version via recovery or something... I've read somewhere that u can install lower builds of OTA and then root the phone ... will that work? or i just missed something during lecture...
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I did that for rooting the 2.2.1 and downgranding to 2.2
Hope works for this one too.

Goldcard won't work, yet.
Stay tuned though, very soon a temp-root will be released, which will allow you to downgrade.
-Nipqer

See http://fishporn.ca/vision.gingerbread.root.html for a channel log of the first successful exploit of 2.3.3 on a G2...

You have to downgrade firmware then reroot your basically
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[Q] we need rooted Gingerbread ROM (.ftf) for flashtool

I manually flashed my X10i using this method...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920746
but soon I realized it's not rooted after flashing and it's too late to install xrecovery or something like that. Something worse is, there's NO working rooting method for official 2.3.3 ROM this time.
We need some developers to make rooted 2.3.3 (in both stock and customized) ROM for flashtool so we can flash rooted ROM using flashtool without xrecovery.

Rooted ROM / Tools
I'm sure the devs will have something soon, if they have a pre-rooted install, it should not be too long before an exploit is found that allows the APK based tools to work.
I have not done much checking, are you sure the current tools (one click, z4root etc) dont work with the stock GB rom?
You could always downgrade using flashtool / adb shell and then re-install the 2.1 firmware, root, then install recovery / 2.3 pre-rooted....
Sucks, but it would be worth it in my opinion to have the freedom.
Otherwise, just wait, it should not be long!

rollback
This guy did the same thing, he has a link in his post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195218
EDIT: Sorry should have edited my first - My bad

abeeson said:
I'm sure the devs will have something soon, if they have a pre-rooted install, it should not be too long before an exploit is found that allows the APK based tools to work.
I have not done much checking, are you sure the current tools (one click, z4root etc) dont work with the stock GB rom?
You could always downgrade using flashtool / adb shell and then re-install the 2.1 firmware, root, then install recovery / 2.3 pre-rooted....
Sucks, but it would be worth it in my opinion to have the freedom.
Otherwise, just wait, it should not be long!
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I tried few methods:
visionary+: not supported
superoneclick: doesn't work
gingerbreak: doesn't work
SE 2.3.3 is too "perfect" for rooting.

dang.
mingkee said:
I tried few methods:
visionary+: not supported
superoneclick: doesn't work
gingerbreak: doesn't work
SE 2.3.3 is too "perfect" for rooting.
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Dang, that sucks.
Ah well, two options, wait for a tool to get updated, or roll back.
I would personally not bother, the only thing i "really" needed root for was barnacle, and wifi tethering is native now. With that said, you may have a use that im not listing (Titanium backup maybe for data), the choice is yours, its a pain to do, but doesnt take too long time wise.
Write back if you need a hand, im glad to help / point you to the correct spot!

Use flashtool and flash a 2.1 Rom. Root install xrec.
Then follow any of the mod/roms in development installation instructions.
I did the same thing and had to do it.
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Check out ddoomlord prerooted. 2.3
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Finally I took a plunge to "downgrade" to 2.1 and use flashtool again to root, then installed xrecovery from there, and after the phone off, I followed the method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192152
After the first session done with xrecovery, I pulled out the battery and run second session to flash kernel with flashtool.
Now it has rooted 2.3.3.

PC10img.zip from Tmobile store sd card

Here is the pc10img.zip file that is available from T-Mobile stores. Make sure your phone is fully charged before you attempt to install it, the demo I installed it on would not install unless the battery was 100%.
https://rapidshare.com/files/3796067356/PC10IMG.zip

Great, thank you! Not looking forward to reinstalling all my apps but downgrading again from 2.3.3 would have been a lengthy process as well.
I guess I know what I'll be doing tonight...
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So does this mean a dev can finally tear this apart and give us some debloated roms with goodies added. Been trying to be patient
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xsteven77x said:
So does this mean a dev can finally tear this apart and give us some debloated roms with goodies added. Been trying to be patient
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I hold out hope that someone can unpack and build a rooted flash out of this. Otherwise, it's going to be just like the leak in that once you flash it you're left sitting around waiting for someone to do something...anything with it.
Mad props to the OP for putting this up. This should definitely get a ball rolling since we now have the FULL PC10IMG ROM flash version of the newest build/GB available for the G2.
Interesting too - the newest stuff (tp's) in that archive are 7/29/2011 - soooo fresh

Thanks for uploading this file. I updated my G2 last week. Kinda odd the update zip I used was only 73.1 MB and this one is 131.MB almost doubled. What is the differance between the two files. It seemed to update just fine from 2.2 to 2.3.4. Everything is running just smooth. Unless there are files and apps that I might be missing. I might give this a try again. Currently running 2.3.4 unrooted with S-ON. Still waiting for someone who can fully root the OTA 2.3.4 with S-OFF. Anyone know about the update zip that was leaked last week? Should I flash this one instead or keep what I have?

zkid2010 said:
I hold out hope that someone can unpack and build a rooted flash out of this. Otherwise, it's going to be just like the leak in that once you flash it you're left sitting around waiting for someone to do something...anything with it.
Mad props to the OP for putting this up. This should definitely get a ball rolling since we now have the FULL PC10IMG ROM flash version of the newest build/GB available for the G2.
Interesting too - the newest stuff (tp's) in that archive are 7/29/2011 - soooo fresh
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We already got a rooted flash of this we need it tweaked up with someone who knows what there doing. Seems we have little development for our phones anymore so I'm not holding out that it will be soon.
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Kilroy672 said:
Thanks for uploading this file. I updated my G2 last week. Kinda odd the update zip I used was only 73.1 MB and this one is 131.MB almost doubled. What is the differance between the two files. It seemed to update just fine from 2.2 to 2.3.4. Everything is running just smooth. Unless there are files and apps that I might be missing. I might give this a try again. Currently running 2.3.4 unrooted with S-ON. Still waiting for someone who can fully root the OTA 2.3.4 with S-OFF. Anyone know about the update zip that was leaked last week? Should I flash this one instead or keep what I have?
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The update.zip is an update from 2.2 to 2.3.4. This PC10IMG.zip is the whole operating system. You can be on the first OS that shipped with the phone (2.2 but before wifi calling) and still use this file. To use the update.zip, you must be running the update that included wifi calling.
PC10IMG.zip will factory reset your phone.

Just like blink said, this is the full system image, the update essentially just includes the updated code not the entire image.
My hope is that this will help the developers intigrate this into their roms.

xsteven77x said:
We already got a rooted flash of this we need it tweaked up with someone who knows what there doing. Seems we have little development for our phones anymore so I'm not holding out that it will be soon.
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lulwot? This is THE first I've seen of the PC10IMG - full ROM from the T-Mobile store sdcard update. If there is a rooted flash of this please provide the link. Like yesterday! ROFL
Otherwise, all we have or have had is a rooted franken-build flashable mashup of the OTA and whatever other stuff.
Like I said, if you got a link to the full rooted flash of THIS rom, I'm all ears
Again - huge props to @atlp99 who made good saying he would bring the in-store copy ASAP. Well done!
PS - @atlp99 I saw your thread and it looks like they deleted it. Regrettably unless your posting CM7 crap or some variation of that or some Sense rom, they seem to delete new threads.
@RM, question, why not just delete the Vision stuff off xda? Or, alternatively quit deleting **** you pinhead.

Mirror!
Does anybody have a mirror download for this? I cant seem to download it from radidshare

zkid2010 said:
Like I said, if you got a link to the full rooted flash of THIS rom, I'm all ears
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I made a rooted version of the stock ROM. Right now I'm testing it, should be up in 20 minutes

rr5678 said:
I made a rooted version of the stock ROM. Right now I'm testing it, should be up in 20 minutes
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Cool can't wait. What rooted version of what stock rom are you talking about? The PC10img.zip that we are talking about here ( I hope so) or the stock 2.2?

Kilroy672 said:
Cool can't wait. What rooted version of what stock rom are you talking about? The PC10img.zip that we are talking about here ( I hope so) or the stock 2.2?
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Yep, the PC10IMG. (2.3.4)

rr5678 said:
Yep, the PC10IMG. (2.3.4)
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Cool, please keep us updated if this is a working rooted rom. + 1 for you

Kilroy672 said:
Cool, please keep us updated if this is a working rooted rom. + 1 for you
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16503984#post16503984
there it is

rr5678 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16503984#post16503984
there it is
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Sorry im a newbie..do i just rename the file PC10IMG.ZIP and put it on my sd card, boot up into the bootloader and go from there? I did that with the earlier PC10IMG.ZIP 2.3.4 that was posted on this thread..can it override that??

IllBill said:
Sorry im a newbie..do i just rename the file PC10IMG.ZIP and put it on my sd card, boot up into the bootloader and go from there? I did that with the earlier PC10IMG.ZIP 2.3.4 that was posted on this thread..can it override that??
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No no, what this is is a stock 2.3.4 image created from the PC10IMG that will not overwrite hboot, will not kick you back to stock recovery, will not update your radio and is rooted.
Just flash it with CWM.

just wanted to say this worked to upgrade the leaked 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 . you lose your apps but that's not a big deal

thanks!!! i had the leaked 2.3.3 and was gonna go through the painful process of downgrading then upgrading to 2.3.4
but this file saved all that work! wuhu!

What is the diff between 2.3.3 and 2.3.4?
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